The Nets moved to within one game of the NBA record for the longest winless streak to start a season with a 109-96 loss in Sacramento Friday night. They looked very much like an 0-16 team in the first half, allowing the Kings to shoot 59 percent from the field and getting outrebounded 27-11. They trailed by 22 points late in the second quarter and by 17 at halftime. Devin Harris had just one basket in the first half, but he led a comeback in the third quarter. Playing with much more energy on both ends of the floor, the Nets cut the lead down to six late in the third and again early in the fourth, but they couldn’t get any closer than that. Harris, Brook Lopez and Chris Douglas-Roberts each eclipsed the 20-point mark, but the Nets shot just 39 percent from the field.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:34 am
GOOD BYE LAWRENCE FRANK. If Rod doesn’t pull the trigger. I WILL BE FURIOUS.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:36 am
0-17 is coming up.
when we back to home, 0-18.
Kiki would dress up on the sideline next week?
November 28th, 2009 at 12:37 am
KIKI has no coaching experience at all
November 28th, 2009 at 12:38 am
I have become so used to the excuses of Frank’s lovers now.
How about “Frank could only do so much. His players screwed up out there, not him” ?? I think this kind of excuse is the symptom of a new NBA record that is only inevitable.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:40 am
Sad day in Nets Franchise history, Serious moves better be done, new coaches, new uniforms (hate that red uniform + plus they other jerseys look plain), new roster, new city, new everything
November 28th, 2009 at 12:41 am
As we get number 16, a couple of things come to mind.
1) When the Nets went 0-6 in pre-season, a lot of guys on this site kept saying that it did not matter much because it was preseason. I remember stressing that while it would not matter what a preseason record is for a good, veteran team, it really is a big deal for such a young team.
2) LFrank Spent the whole preseason saying we do not need to talk about offense, and that it is all about defense. Again, I said that while it is very important to stress defense, we do not have a team where we can ignore the offensive end.
We all know what’s happening right now, don’t we? L Frank Needs to be fire Sunday at 11:30 – midnight. Or…if Thorn wants to keep the news until the next morning, he should fire him at 10:00AM on Monday. Either way, he needs to go.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:42 am
WOOOHOOO WE ARE MAKING HISTORY BABY YEAH.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:43 am
0 and atleast 20 we are doing so bad and Kidd is going to make us the worst start in history. Guys I dont know what to say, is Frank black mailing Thorn? We can only let the nets franchise do this if we let them! Lets stop supporting FRANK!
Courtney Lee needs to be traded
November 28th, 2009 at 12:45 am
Did any other season ticket holders get the ghostwritten letter from Thorn today expressing management’s “disappointment” with this history-making, shameful run? I really can’t see how they can with a straight face tell us that Yormark and his team are giving us the best “in-game experience” in the league. Nets Chamber of Commerce? Nets Kids? Give me a break — and give me my money back.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:45 am
Don’t worry Ben. Even Rod knows what must be done – I hope. But I do think they should wait until Dallas hands them Loss # 18 at home in front of 4,000. It’s the least they could do for Frank as he walks out the door with the reminader of his contract.
On teh bright side…the Nets wil go down in history. So fitting for this franchise. I’ve been watching since the mid 80s. Very few good times.
On the even brighter side, Simmons got a DNP CD…AWESOME!
I like CDR but he’s not much of a shooter. C. Lee better get back into it and start making shots. Supposedly he can do so. He can take Simmons’ place LOL as the Nets chucker. Harris probably won’t find a groove until Dallas or after, not that it will make a difference anyway.
Ahhh..to be a Nets fan. So much pleasure…
November 28th, 2009 at 12:45 am
Game was lost when that idiot Frank went SMALL with Hassell playing the 4 against Sactowns huge front line. Excellent coaching Mr.Frank. Don’t let the door hit you…
November 28th, 2009 at 12:48 am
@ MArcus..you have a point. Actually many points…
Some REALLY SMART posters here woud have you believe it’s all about the coach though. LOL as if it was that simple. Speaking of simple…
November 28th, 2009 at 12:49 am
None of this matters. Frank will be out of a job now or at the end of the season. So will Thorn and Vandeweghe.
If Brooklyn fails, the team will be sold after another series of cost-saving moves.
And you guys blame Frank. Hilarious.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:49 am
By the way — who will be left to defend the RJ and VC trades when all that cap room and “flexibility” results in a big, fat . . . zero this summer? If they really took a realistic approach to improving this team (not like that matters to management at all (anybody want to buy some bonds?)), but they should be looking to trade their expirings for solid, young talent at the deadline, rather than saving it for FAs that won’t come, and then desperately panicking and overpaying second tier guys when they are left holding the bag next summer.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:49 am
This loss was occurring in our heads before it transpired on the court. That’s the danger with these long losing streaks. They become self-fulfilling prophecies in and of themselves. I don’t like the idea of firing a coach during the season, but it needs to happen in this case, if only to get the players to feel like they can turn a corner. The mental state of the Nets is fragile. Even though we weren’t going to be very good this year, this loss was the result of thinking bad things are gonna happen, which causes players to short-arm shots they usually make or turn the ball over at inopportune moments. Things don’t look too good, and I’m starting to get concerned about our young players who haven’t experienced anything like this before. The only comfort I get is that we’ll contend for the #1 pick, but I wonder if that opportunity will come at a cost to players’ psyches.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:49 am
You people are so ridiculous. You are talking about a man losing his job during the Holiday season. Now I am not saying he shouldn’t be fired. If you believe he is doing a bad job fine. But to say all these things like this man doesn’t have a family and this is just some kind of game is disheartening. You people show no class to man that has been the coach of a team for 6 seasons. If you believe it is time for him to go, fine, but at least have a little class. I’m sure if their was a blog out their about your job and people kept saying you should get fired you wouldn’t like it so much. Have a little respect. Oh yeah…GO NETS….
November 28th, 2009 at 12:50 am
See ya! Lawrence is a goner. I don’t feel sorry for anyone on that NJ team expect for Lopez. He plays his heart out and actually has talent. CDR keeps talking crap, like Vince leaving was going to make him the superstar…yeah right… and hit the gym and lift some weights scrawny bastard. That record is going to get even worse..consider 0-18 a done deal for now. You think Kobe or Dirk want that on their rap sheet…that they were the first win against a winless team. Please, the way Knicks played Nuggs tonite was actually what you called trying!
November 28th, 2009 at 12:51 am
If painfuly watching the Nets get smacked around by every team will eventualy lead to eLF getting fired , bring on the Lakers baby!!
Hey Frank , try playing small ball against Gasol, Bynum and Odem.
We need change and we need it NOW.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:51 am
He’s being paid $4 million.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:52 am
they might shatter this record..o well…GO NETS!
November 28th, 2009 at 12:53 am
I’m as soft-hearted as the next guy, and I in no way blame Frank for this debacle, but to PsychoNets I can only say, “Come on now . . .”
If Frank gets fired, he is walking away with a $4MM going-away present, unlike the average shmoe who is lucky to get two weeks severance. LF works in a high-profile industry, and has reaped the benefits . . . . harsh criticism comes with the territory.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:53 am
When Keyon Dooling comes back (boy, do they miss him), send Rafer Alston anywhere for a bag of chips.
Trenton Hassell should never play 40 minutes a game. Terrence Williams played 17 minutes. it doesn’t take a genius to see that should be reversed.
If the Nets didn’t give away the first half, they could have won this game.
Tony Battie had better come back soon. Brook’s not going to last at 40 minutes every game.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:53 am
Holy crap.. the Nets also lost all of their preseason games. 0 for 2009. Yikes. I think there are many reasons why the Nets are so pathetic right now. Obviosul y teh coach is one of tehose reasons. The coach really should not be allowed to be there any longer – particularly if you like him. I do beleive that opce Frank is gone the Nets will somehow eek out a win, And then lose like 10 in row.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:53 am
@ Psycho,
I don’t like the idea of firing any coach during a season, but this losing streak is weighing too hard on the players. I’m not saying this is Frank’s fault, but in a results-oriented profession, the coach is the first to take the blame, and there are the younger players to think about. And with respect, LFrank’s severance will be very handsome. I’m not worried about he and his family seeking meals at the local soup kitchen.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:54 am
I don’t blame Frank at this game, he was doing a fine job at this game. Boone protects the rebounds so well alongside Lopez, only if he have done like this before this game, we won’t be winless at this moment.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:54 am
The Nets would have had a better chance tonight if Harris was in midseason form and went, say, 12-22 instead of 6-22. Although it seems like Westphal let up a bit by using such a different lineup in the second half. Hawes, Nocioni, Greene, Thompson, and Brockman got good results in the first half, and then hardly played in the second half.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:54 am
There are people who can’t afford to feed themselves. Nobody is going to feel sorry for LFrank.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:56 am
The funny part is that some of us thought we were going to win
It might be 2010 before this team wins a game. You have your three best players score 20+ each and the Nets lose. Sounds familiar
And no, it all isn’t Frank’s fault, but the apologists need to just be quiet. there is nothing you can say, the season is over already and it’s STILL NOVEMBER.
Oh yeah, Courtney Lee lovers….the BUM played 3 minutes tonight…I wonder why?? Because he SUCKS
November 28th, 2009 at 12:56 am
We beat philly in the preseason.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:57 am
@ NI
Actually i dont blame Frank at all for this. Watch the game guys, he can’t go out there and play for them and he cant make the players execute. He’s not the one signing (or not signing in this place) competent players.
Outside of that
Did Frank tell our PG’s to get torched by the other teams off the dribble every series…..NOPE.
Did Frank decide to start the season with 4 big men, 2 of which are even questionable as backups (I’m sorry, i’ve been one of SWATS biggest supporters, but hes one dimensional and doesnt play well enough to deserve major minutes)
Did Frank decide to trade away VC for nothing? NOPE
While i do agree that some of his subs. have been really bad and some sets just dont make sense, his players just arent performing and that it, period.
Regardless of his coaching ability, he was set up to fail this season, and fail big.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:58 am
Yeah Jarkid but they have to get a rebound first. 27-11 kings in rebounding at the half
November 28th, 2009 at 12:58 am
I hate loosing but just the thought of the “fire frank” crowd getting all worked up makes me smile. It is almost as good as win at this point. I hope Thorn keeps Frank all season, maybe some of your heads will explode or something.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:00 am
its funny how frank owns two nba records
one for the best start as a beginner coach in the nba
the other for the worst finish
November 28th, 2009 at 1:03 am
@psychonetsfan
Are you kiding me ,” getting fired right before the holiday season”? The guy will make his $4,000,000.00 wether he’s coaching or not. And that $4mill is what he’s getting this season. He’s gotten the Nets for like $20-30mill over the last 6 seasons. Who cares if he gets fired right befor the holidays. The team he is coaching is 0-16. Rediculous
November 28th, 2009 at 1:03 am
@ JGD
Frank had 13-winning streak, i think the biggest factor is Kidd was the real coach at that moment.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:03 am
I was actually listening to the game via the Kings radio feed, and the SAC announcers were actually quite complimentary of (and felt bad for) Frank. They noted Frank’s energy and refusal to give up even at the bitter end, and felt that no one could succeed with the hand he has been dealt. Interesting take from a couple of observers who can look at this situation a bit less emotionally than those of us around here . . .
November 28th, 2009 at 1:07 am
I feel bad for the Lakers they’re gonna get slapped around big time by the Hassell/Alston/Swat tandem
November 28th, 2009 at 1:07 am
I wouldn’t be surprised that Thorn keeps Frank all season.
When you have a franchise who’s a known laughing stock of the NBA, you have loser excuses and bad decision making.
Did the Kings have a more talented roster tonight than the Nets? They were without two starters as well, one is an elite scorer. Yet they completely dominated the Nets.
If an excuse doesn’t apply to other teams, then it’s not legitimate. It’s that simple!
November 28th, 2009 at 1:08 am
Make the Rat the Coach. Let him coach the mess he created.
HollAH!
November 28th, 2009 at 1:11 am
@ Shawn
Only if we can throw heads of lettuce and tomatoes at him the entire time….otherwise i never want to see or hear of the Rat again.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:11 am
@ PsychoNF34
Please!!! If L Frank, who’s been the coach of the Nets for 7 seasons, did not save enough money so he can be alright when he’s fired, then he would not just be deserving of a slip right now, but also his divorce papers. The guy is making $4mil/yr!!! That’s $76,923 every week!!! Do you make that much in a year? Don’t you do just fine?
November 28th, 2009 at 1:14 am
by the way, can someone tell me what kiki has done to improve this franchise since he got here? guy must be a genius, having a job still after his performances in den and nj.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:15 am
I love how people say that it’s the players are to blame when we loose and that you can’t blame it on the coach cause he’s not the actual one playing on the court. Then how do they decide who gets coach of the year, it’s the coach who gets his players the most prepared and developed (2 thinks Frank can’t do)
“how do you fire a guy just befor the Holiday season”
honestly , I still can’t get over that one.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:16 am
Guys im sorry to say but we are being out smarted, this entire thing was made up by Ratner. He wanted to put together the worst coach with the worst players in order to get Brooklyn going. You see Ratner doesnt want anyone at IZOD because he wants IZOD to drop us since the ticket sales are horrible. He has given us the worst team ever assembled we have a horrible coaching staff we have Frank and three guys found on the street.
Ratner loves Frank because he knows he is an awful coach and his love for small ball.
I dont see why we let these troglodytes do this? I dont see why we arent vocal towards to the management when your angry you let it be known. Harris, RJ, and VC with some bench and if we drafted Lopez that night we could of been playoff contendors. But Ratner says lets get some more money Yi Jianlian and Bobby Simmons! There was no reason to rebuild! Now in 2010 we arent getting A SINGLE FREE AGENT! This has all been for BROOKLYN NOT FOR THE TEAM!
November 28th, 2009 at 1:16 am
@ PsychoNF34
I dont feel bad for any person who makes that much money being associated with coaching or playing a professional sport loosing thier job (unless it’s over something completely unethical and i couldnt give an example right now). If your not smart enough to at least save some of it or invest it, then you deserve what you get if you blow it.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:19 am
From AP:
Things were so bad for the Nets that they missed five shots near the basket in one 15-second span, including three that were blocked. Frank complained to the officials when Monty McCutcheon told him the defensive plays were all clean, asking incredulously at one point, “All five?”
November 28th, 2009 at 1:20 am
@ Kimosabe
The Nets went 1-6 in the preseason after winning their last game against the Sixers behind TWill’s 23pts 8assts 5rbs effort.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:21 am
Even if Frank were the worst coach in the history of sports, which I think is hardly a case by the way, there comes a point in time where the players on the court have to stand up and take accountability for themselves. After all, in a few years nobody will remember all the injuries, etc. but the players on this team will forever be known as ultimate losers, except for perhaps Brooke Lopez who has a bright career ahead of him. You have to play each possesion like a bunch of crazed dogs if you hope to win, especially with the amazing lack of talent on this team, but unfortunately the guys talk a good game in interviews, but just can’t get it done.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:22 am
Two things:
1. Please, STOP wearing those dispicable red jerseys!
2. Please, play Terrence Williams 35 plus minutes. This season is over, might as well play the youngster. He has proven he can play and has shown in college that he is a winner. His offense will improve as the season goes on. It can’t get any worse. We have NO wins anyway. It does not take a genius to see who to start and who to play heavy minutes. Like I have been saying, atleast we have our draft pick!
November 28th, 2009 at 1:25 am
Yeah, it was a dumb decision to do away with the blue jerseys. At least they broke up the monotany of losing streaks.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:25 am
Guys,
The only way Frank loses us games including this one is by his personality if we want to win we need to change the teams personality our problem right now Frank is the dominating guy so we are taking his personality, if Harris takes ownership like he did in the second half then we surely will win soon that is what we want. You could see every one falling in line with him.
Frank is a theoretical guy there are very few guys with his knowledge but right now we need a player a GM or someone else to step up, or we need to fire Frank our team cannot survive with his personality.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:25 am
Why in the world would an elite player come to a team that not only plays in New Jersey but is going to have the worst start in NBA history?
November 28th, 2009 at 1:28 am
Lets try this again:
Starting lineup should be as follows:
Devin
CDR
Terrence
Sean
Brook
NOT Terrence 17 minutes and Sean 12 minutes.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:30 am
is there a reason why my post questioning what kiki has done to improve the franchise was deleted? hmmmm . . . selectively protecting sources? objective journalism’s cardinal sin . . .
November 28th, 2009 at 1:30 am
devin harris just missed TOOOO MANY gimmees..
November 28th, 2009 at 1:35 am
it took some oreos and milk to get over this one…
November 28th, 2009 at 1:58 am
smelly, read the comment guidelines, and you’ll probably figure out why it was deleted: http://www.netsdaily.com/?page_id=5867
Specifically, see #5 on the list.
November 28th, 2009 at 2:07 am
Give a new contract to Frank before he quits, he still got a chance (probably 36 hours)to quit and avoid to be one of the record holder or probably the sole record. Yes Lawrence Frank Sportmans of the year . Sorry Manny Pacquaio you got some competition, your 7 Boxing titles against 7 years of Frank with NETS you can’t beat that. Yes step aside Mayweather. Manny vs Frank one on one on Meadowland
November 28th, 2009 at 2:12 am
I also did the Oreos and Milk thing…..Do any of you guys know how much time Brook and Sean were on the court together for the sac Game ????..I’m guessing probably not enough because they do play well out there together…and that would make sense….Alot of you guys are saying that it’s not franks fault and blaming it on the players on the court..Well you are right…The players are playing terrible and they want to lose because they cannot stand frank either and they want him fired…They are probably just wondering why he hasn’t been fired yet…When we get a new coach things will turn around although I am excited about a high draft pick….
November 28th, 2009 at 2:15 am
“1. Please, STOP wearing those dispicable red jerseys!”
could not agree more. They are a total insult to our intelligence and they are easily the most hideous looking jerseys in the league. Pathetic!
November 28th, 2009 at 2:46 am
Well if we are going to lose let’s lose big.
I don’t see us winning anytime soon inclding NY game. We cannot hit a jumpshot or 3 pointer to save our soul.
If ratner was actually trying to win a game we could have had a lineup of
Harris
Cdr
Vince
Boozer
Lopez
Easy a top 5 team in the east.
Now we are gonna go 0-20. Get ready for infamy nets fans!
November 28th, 2009 at 2:46 am
@PsychoNetsFan34
L FRANK IS A MILLIONAIRE HES NOT WORKING AS A CASHIER OR SOMETHING
November 28th, 2009 at 3:19 am
Harris: 6-22 and we let them shoot over 50%, that folks, was the ball game. Another poor first half effort and poor shooting from both out point guards. How much longer can we expect Brook to play these kinds of minutes? We are not going to win versus the Lakers or Dallas. Let’s hope for a miracle versus Charlotte or the Knicks. If we go to 0-20, how can LFrank survive?
November 28th, 2009 at 4:31 am
The losing streak is not one man’s fault by any means. The most blame needs to go to ownership for not letting Thorn do his job properly, and setting this team up to fail. Ownership is all messed up in real estate first, basketball second.
It pisses me off that NJ has had this team for years and they insult us by trying to take it across the river, and our send off is this kind of mess.
There are some good young players on this team that deserve a chance to win.
The unfortunate part of this is that Frank does need to go, for psychology’s sake. These players, and the fans, need to know management is not happy- and ownership is not happy – and content to just let this team rot until it moves to Bklyn.
This is not all Franks’s fault by any means, but he HAS to be fired at this point.
November 28th, 2009 at 5:04 am
Is Mile Ilic still available?
November 28th, 2009 at 5:12 am
@ Dan the Fan – look at what the Bulls did two years ago.
November 28th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Frank is not idiot, he is very smart, at least he is working very hard for NETS management under super pressure! NETS are looking for the Rank No. 1 from the bottom of this franchise. They want to get the first pickup of the draft in 2010.
November 28th, 2009 at 6:00 am
Basketball is a game only. As long as NETS can play the game well next year (because of first draft and trade in 2010), people will quickly forget what happened in this year, no matter how ugly they are! Again Frank is working very very hard for NETS management. People will not surprise to see 0:18 this time. Probably before the end of 2009, NETS will be out of the season games.
November 28th, 2009 at 6:15 am
PsychoNetsFan34, are you serious? frank made a lot of money coaching the nets. let Frank take the rest of the year off and if h can’t get a job by next season, bring him back at a lesser role.
Net Income, what’s the love affair you have with Frank? Dudes not an NBA coach and you know it.
November 28th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Wow we still have fans beside me. Lets go Mets.
I don’t think they should fire Frank until they can get a coach in here that can coach.
November 28th, 2009 at 7:38 am
This team is so badly constructed. Where is our shooter? How can you play inside ball off of Lopez if you do not have shooters? Not even one! So every team just collapses on Lopez and they can’t shoot. I do not trust this group (Thorn and Kiki) to be able to put together a team even if they have the green light to spend. How unwatchable they are. 39% is good for them! Horrible. To blame Frank is a joke: this roster is at best, all healthy, a 20 win team. Now, a 15 win team.
November 28th, 2009 at 7:52 am
Hayes, Dooling, and Yi’s injuries really hurt. But it’s not a excuse, we are still not good at guarding the shooters.
The kings shoot so well, and we can’t even stop them. And we have too many fouls in the paint.
November 28th, 2009 at 8:01 am
Fire Frank please, if someone values whats left of this franchise frank will wacht the game on NBA TV, but not from the coaching seat anymore
Fire Frank
im serious about it
we just cant loose anymore, the next following games ppl will only come to see the Magics, Cavs, Hawks, Celts, Lakers, Spurps and Mavs games.
we are, along with minnesota, the worst teams from the NBA, WNBA, D-League, Discapacited basketball players association (DBPA) and Kids Basketball association (KBA)…
November 28th, 2009 at 8:14 am
LFrank needs to go, period. Sac had 2 rookies,1 soph and a 3rd year player player on the court and the Nets got outcoached and spanked.
DH looks BAAAAD. His jumper is so off, he’s missing free throws.
TWill must play more
CDR DH and lopez need to be on 1 side of the floor to keep teams honest
Play more zone D!
Even the refs don’t respect this team. Brook gets his shot pinned to the basket. No call over and over
We need a real coach!
November 28th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Harris
Carter
CDR
Boone
Lopez
could win much more game.
November 28th, 2009 at 8:34 am
What about Fratello being the coach?
November 28th, 2009 at 8:41 am
@Boomdog
Outside of this year, I think Frank has underachieved with the roster that he’s been given. I don’t think anybody can question his effort. I just question his style. Sometime I just want him to sit down on the bench and shut up.
November 28th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Just had to say that first half was the worst I’ve have ever seen them play, I mean ever! At this point, I’m just looking forward to the draft, hopefully we’ll get #1 pick. I can’t believe I stayed up to the end. It’s going to be a very long season, but I’m still a Nets fan.
November 28th, 2009 at 8:48 am
lopez taking down jason thompson was a good sign…the guy was trying to make a poster out of brook…brook says, “nuh-uh!”…now players would think twice trying to dunk on him…much like shaq had it established that if you try to dunk on him, it could be very painful.
November 28th, 2009 at 8:49 am
I coud see this team winning 10 in a row after Frank is fired!
November 28th, 2009 at 9:21 am
This is how I see it..
This problem is waaay bigger than Frank. It’s organizational from top to bottom. The owner has no money. With exception of Brook, Kiki and Rod have drafted poorly. Frank isn’t getting through to the players and the players either aren’t talented enough or injured. it takes more than one man to create this debacle.
The next issue is now other teams are bringing their “A” games because they don’t want to be the team to lose to the Nets. So teams are coming out strong so we know we don’t have a shot from the beginning of the game.
This is going to be an embarrasing mess and there will be a lot of change next season.
November 28th, 2009 at 9:30 am
no point of firing frank now…what will it accomplish? a new face coach, thats all. The team sucks period…we need to change this roster. we’re going to have to wait til next season for that…
November 28th, 2009 at 9:39 am
That’s the point, this team needs a new face. You see Harris ignoring his team mates in the 4Q? Every time he had the ball, he tried to win it by himself. Never tried to make a play, he’s no Jason Kidd and Frank treats him like he is… these guys are not playing like a team… that is the coach’s fault.
Why can’t anyone see it? Frank does need to go… and sooner the better. He’s a cancer for a young team at this point.
November 28th, 2009 at 9:44 am
I think they should fire this idiot Vandeweghe first. Ever since he showed up the lousy trades started.
And although Frank isn’t the only one at fault, and he did have the smarts to DNP Simmons and Lee last night, he still has always been a lousy offensive strategist. And for some reason, he can never get his teams to play 4 quarters of basketball.
So what’s going to happen? Possibly nothing. They are all short timers waiting for the axe to fall. They may sacrifice Frank to save face, and it would be fitting to have Vandeweghe coach this abortion he created.
And one more thing – if Patterson vetoes the eminent domain ruling, the Nets will have the worst team in the NBA, no fan base, and no arena.
November 28th, 2009 at 9:44 am
We’re a joke. But Frank doesn’t need to go, it’s totally not his fault…? No other team in pro sports would stick with their coach after this…
Anybody seeing sportscenter this morning? While playing the “highlights” from the Nets game… they played circus music. Along with all the WHOOPS! sound effects.
And NI, if you’re gonna say “none of this matters, blah blah blah doom and gloom and not moving to Brooklyn”, then don’t make game posts. Once a day, just come on here and post something in big black letters like “IF BROOKLYN FALLS THROUGH, PUPPIES WILL BE SLAUGHTERED AND LAWRENCE FRANK WILL GIGGLE LIKE A SCHOOL GIRL… but don’t fire him”
November 28th, 2009 at 9:46 am
The Kings looked pretty good last night. They are tough on the inside, they moved the ball very well and seemed to find the open man every offensive possession. I was really surprised by them. I underestimated Spencer Hawes and I really like Jason Thompson a lot. I could see Thompson and Mareese Speights competing for a spot on the USA team someday. Random thought. Sorry.
I loved that Brook Lopez foul on Jason Thompson. I don’t believe he was doing anything more than going for the ball, but still, it sent a message. I think.
Devin Harris looked determined last night. Now if he could just hit a jump shot I’d be something that resembles the mood “happy”.
November 28th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Maybe the problem is that we need a decent assistant coach? Where is Brian Hill, when you need him?
November 28th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Ok, whatis all this”small ball” talk? …Alright, you, yes you, you’re the coach of the NJ Nets right now. Given the roster Frank has RIGHT NOW, lets go to the first quarter of your first game as head coach. The line-up offers Lopez and Boone. 4:40 into the game, Boone picks up his second foul. In comes Swat. He also gets his second foul by the 9:34 mark of the first quarter. What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO??????????????????
November 28th, 2009 at 10:08 am
I will say though. One thing that I have never liked about Frank is that he is a reactive coach, not a proactive coach. In other words, he looks at what other teams are doing and tries to match up against it instead of trying to dictate to other teams what style of play he would like, to maximize his unit.
The other thing I’ve always felt about him is that when he go hired here, it always seemed as though he “owed” the roster his job (i.e. Kidd) and never really had leverage over that unit as a Coach. Maybe his style was affected by that going forward but it would be nice to see him get in a face or two.
November 28th, 2009 at 10:11 am
@ Letsgetitstartedinhere
you gonna have a stroke. LOL.
At that moment, I would try play another sf, but I won’t do it, when we have Boone and Sean Available without foul troubles.
November 28th, 2009 at 11:27 am
@ Letsgetitstartedinhere Says:
“In comes Swat. He also gets his second foul by the 9:34 mark of the first quarter.”
Williams Foul : Loose Ball (1 PF) 03:21 1qtr
Williams Substitution replaced by Williams 03:21
Thats TWill in for Swat. The start of small ball. Boone and Swat play about 34 min total but Hassel played 39. My wife said last week maybe they’re losing on purpose to get rid of the coach. At the time I said no way. Now I’m not so sure. Harris, Swat and even Boone has had issues with the coach. On top of that management trades their best player for a salary dump and a guy who played 2 min last night. You think Lee wants to be here. Hassel plays cuz he might be one of the few who are behind the coach. Thorn wondered last off season if Opie was being heard. I don’t think many are listening now. He lost this team but management doesn’t care so nobody else does. A broke owner, a plan to lose, bad coaching and little talent lead to this.
November 28th, 2009 at 11:33 am
6-22? You gonna let that stat throw you off? Then the points column would have shown 12pts for DH. He got fouled 8 frickin’ times. Took 17 shots from the line, which don’t count as Makes in the stats. His actual percentage is more like 13-22.
Again, they lost because they played no defense. How you gonna let two Kings go 6-11 and one go for 8-11 and expect to win, your guys aren’t shooting so hot. Play some frickin’ D you idiots.
November 28th, 2009 at 11:38 am
The Nets shouldv’e traded Vince at the trade deadline instead of the ofseason. I really don’t like Courtney Lee he is very overrated. Courtney Lee is not a good played at all and we traded our superstar for a role player. One of the worst moves Rod Thorn has ever done
November 28th, 2009 at 11:44 am
At this point I feel bad for Frank.. let the sucker go home and chill. He looks like he’s gonna have an Aneurysm.
So in my last post I was pointing out the ballhog, run in circles offense. Which we mostly ran in the first half. We also happened to get creamed in that first half.
Start of second quarter. Devin gets high pick.. blows by for layup.. repeat for most of half. Brooke getting his iso’s. Devin drawing in to kick out to CDR. Did anybody else see the difference?
That is a situation where Frank needed to put his players in a position to win. He should of been running those plays in the first half. I guarantee he passed out offensive play suggestion slips. Besides Sean Williams suggestion about him jumping as high as he can, twisting in a half circle and shooting at the rim. I bet most of them called for Devin to be running the plays.
Also look at the end of the game. We have been playing excellent. Snagged a couple of steals. We have them on their toes with 2:50 left, down by 7.
So Frank uses the strategy that never worked once for him with Shaq and we hand them 3 points. How about letting the Defense( which is ranked 8th in the league) do their job and maybe, just maybe we get a turnover. Maybe we get two. Now you could have a 2-3 pt game with 1:30 left.
Instead he hands them 3 points and takes away our possible running game( which was supposed to be our other strength) because they make the shots, which allows them to get back on D quickly.
I never see other NBA coaches make these stupid mistakes.. if they do I bet they’re out of a job.
It was evident that they are giving up on him. Did you see T Will at the end of the first half? 1.1 secs left he could at least have heaved one. Instead he just didnt care enough. They are giving up on him.
I’m throwing a keg party with strippers when we finally win a game. You’re all more then welcome lol. I live in Albany though.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
I dont get this we either do bad in the first half or the second half. We can have a 20 point lead in the first half then 3rd quarter hits were done.
Frank at half time I wonder if he even gets them fired up…or just goes “No matter win or lose ill still buy you ice cream!”
November 28th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Emeka Okafor
November 28th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Rod Thorn not only trade our super star for a role player, but also give the magic our good player(anderson) for free.
DAMN IT.
November 28th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Twill was the 3d best rookie in the game.
The first quarter looked like men against boys. Dominated in the paint and around the rim worse than any game I can remember.
The second biggest problem is we don’t have a single shooter who can stretch the defense. That is why shooting % is so low – teams know to crowd the paint. This is what happens when year after year we draft so many guys with no shooting ability.
Of course the biggest problem is the lack of a powerful 4 who can do battle underneath.
November 28th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
With every passing game, my opinion of VC’s talent increases, given he is the major difference between last year and this year.
It was quite a mistake to trade him and RA. Don’t count on the extra cap flexibility bringing in a superstar or two. Superstars only come to teams that are missing a critical piece, not one that is at the beginning of a development cycle. To get even one superstar, the Nets would need the commitment of another superstar at the same time. In other words, they would have to promise X that Y was coming and Y that X was coming. For example, X= Bosh and Y = Lebron.
What are the chanes of that?
November 28th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
@ JustinNJ – Let’s try THAT again:
Starting lineup should be as follows:
PG – Devin Harris
SG – Terrence Williams
SF – Trenton Hassell
PF – Sean Williams
C – Brook Lopez
November 28th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
It’s true that our team does lack talents right now, but the main problem with our team is the lack of leadership.
I see Devin Harris(Our Captain/Leader) playing like crap in the first half, which influence the way our other guys play. His lack of energy in the first half was really obvious.
We don’t have that leader that leads by example, or someone who would go to your face and call you out when you play horribly. Last year we had Vince who did that, and he was great at it. Vince would call out Brook whenever he goes for a soft layup instead of a powerful dunk. It shows in Brooks play this year…. he doesn’t dunk as much as he could’ve.
The fact that the most pissed off guy on our roster is CDR, and not Devin Harris whenever we lose shows the kind of team we really are. Not only are we lacking in talents, but we are lacking in leadership. Without a leader on the floor we can’t win any games.
November 28th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Wow, what a mess huh? I have daydreams of Kittles and Martin on fastbreaks and alleyoops from J-Kidd. May never happen again for this franchise. Come to think of it, this all started back when they let Martin slip away. Steady decline since that point.
November 28th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Bring back Lucious Harris and Jason Collins.
November 28th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Even Chocolate Thunder could probably help out right now.
November 28th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
@ NiceBull – Ugh!
November 28th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
LUCIOUS HARRIS FOR 33333333333333!
November 29th, 2009 at 12:13 am
Bring back Duncan too, Sly isn’t bringing it either…