Writers Paint Ugly Future for Nets
by Net Income on Feb 8, 2012 12:10 PM EST
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PrintIf you want to get (more) depressed about the Nets and their future, we offer you an online discussion among six NBA.com writers who were asked, "If you’re Deron Williams, do you still believe in the rosy future the Nets have been pitching?" Only one of the six, John Schuhmann, offers an unqualified yes. The others? Ugh.
"I didn’t believe in it when the Nets first traded for him," answers Fran Blinebury.
" If I’m Deron Williams, I never believed it in the first place. Based on what?," says Scott Howard-Cooper.
"Until they prove otherwise, the Nets are cursed," Shaun Powell offers.
"Who says he ever believed it?" Sekou Smith asks.
Schuhmann defends the faith Nets fans have in the futre, noting, "Williams expressed confidence in Billy King’s game plan, which is to go all-in on Dwight Howard." Steve Aschburner, the other writer in group, simply advises D-Will to stay, arguing, "If I'm Deron Williams, I believe in my ability to help a team realize the sort of future the Nets have been pitching".
- Blogtable: D-Will And The Nets - Sekou Smith - NBA.com
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“The future of the NBA: is it Iman Schumpert or Jeremy Lin?”
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by calling all toasters on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 PM EST reply actions 14 recs
+ 1
Next weeks topic: Why the Nets should trade Deron Williams for Jeremy Lin….
by M I K E on Feb 8, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No joke
I seen more talent in Lin than I ever seen in Deron. Maybe because he’s one of those players that I just don’t care for.
You give me Lin and I know what I’ll get every might. I’d trade Dwill for Lin and a 1st.
by Zartan on Feb 8, 2012 1:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
so you want to trade an all-star for a 2 game miracle?
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
I wouldn't even trade Deron for Lin
Although, I think there is something MANY talented PG’s in this league could learn from Lin’s approach.
stick to your day job NBA GM is not your career
by DJ HeavyDuty on Feb 8, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So your one of the Melo chasers
I may have delusions of granger but I think I know talent better than 90% of the posters and half the GMs. If the nets gave me the Job,we would never of had Outlaw , Petro , Graham etc… I would have picked up Lin the moment he wax cut.
To give some amunition, I think players like Yi , Kwame Brown, and Favors have worlds of potential, it’s their mental state you have to work with to get production .
BTW go back and check the post, me and only one other guy was on the MarShon wagon early.
by Zartan on Feb 8, 2012 2:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
sorry bout the blank
The Future is Not Written For Us, But By Us
by LBJOSH on Feb 8, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
maybe if Deron was playing backup to CP3
id take Lin for Deron and 2-3 draft picks
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
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You just saw The best of lin for 2 games.. Smh
I cant believe how nets fans quickly changes their minds.. 1 good game and they will love you.. 1 bad game, they will hate you.. If you are really a fan of nets, you will appreciate every game.. Win or lose.. Never give up on anything esp. Our best player right now.. Lin will never be the point guard of now. If hes with our team..
by njason21 on Feb 8, 2012 7:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Magic fans just hate Lopez
So all you are getting in that deal is a mediocre center at best, some small pieces that are just added salary, and future draft picks that will not be lottery picks because the Nets will put up a decent record
Why would the Magic want to take back Brook Lopez for Dwight Howard? He is damaged goods and the Magic already made that mistake with Grant Hill.
But then again, these guys are pretty delusional
Better off to see if he’ll leave his $30mil on the table or let him walk if they can’t get back Blake Griffin or Lebron James.
by muwu on Feb 8, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Funny how Magic fans hate the idea of Lopez...
And Stan Van is the one coach who constantly compliments him
by Frigidevil on Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
That's why they're fans and coaches and GMs are coaches and GMs
The majority of fans have no idea what they’re talking about, an unfortunate truth. Not because they’re incompetent but because there’s so much content to see it’s impossible to accurately gauge the value of every player in the league.
by ZR on Feb 8, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah.. I dont know..
They saw lopez as damage goods? Well, good for the nets though..
by njason21 on Feb 8, 2012 7:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well..
One writer had Bogans as DPOY last year…
“Do you know how to turn on a computer? If so, you are qualified. Please join us as a “journalist” today!
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i love how somehow the Nets are cursed
based on what exactly? the fact that we’ve had a few transitional years
I said the same thing
It’s not like we’ve won significantly more games, had more finals appearances and playoff wins, and the same amount of titles as the Knicks (0) since the turn of the century.
We’re “cursed”. Sure thing, buddy.
Injurys and stupidity.
We always get derailed.
by Zartan on Feb 8, 2012 1:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I love when people say things are
cursed.
LOL!!!
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The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!
The thing is
We’re not even in bad shape if he goes. We lose what we traded, but we’ll still have a high pick, lopez, marshon, and cap space to overpay some role players. Draft a stud point guard and id still watch.
by cprash on Feb 8, 2012 1:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Thanks man
Some fans here want to talk trash to their friends and tell them how great the nets are that they’ll trade their grandmother for Dwight.
It’s cool to have Dwill but he’s on level with Melo, cool if you have him,no big deal if you don’t .
by Zartan on Feb 8, 2012 2:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow I don't like a lot of all star type players
but to say Lin>D Will is beyond delusional
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 8, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Having to forfeit your first playoff game
Having to sell your best player to join the NBA and give annual television royalty to former owners.
Losing, Losing, Losing.
Winning a little bit only to see Drazen killed.
Losing. Winning 2 eastern conference championships but losing the Finals.
Ratner, loss of Kmart, Curly injury, the never-ending Brooklyn saga, the Migraine.
0-18.
12-70. Paper bag heads.
24-58.
8-18.
Just to name a few things…
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Feb 8, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You forgot one of the worst days in Nets history...
losing Beadle…
by M I K E on Feb 8, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
hated when she left...
…and it was nice for her to have gone out with class and say her goodbye’s to the organization and nets fans too.
I can barely stand the pre-game now
Nancy Newman and Jessica Taff HAVE TO BE the worst pre-game partnership in the league. If I have to sit through another interview or feature story where she fumbles through every other sentence and talks like she has a softball stuffed in her throat then…I don’t know what I’ll do because I know it will happen!!! I’m trapped!!
Don’t even get me started on that Canadian cadaver Nancy Newman…
"Mercer pushes it, Buford streaking, the dish...OOOOOOOOOH A MAN'S JAM!!!!"
Classic NETS.
Seriously
And these guys are who? No one has heard of you, your opinions are just that.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
i tihnk he was agreeing with netsking
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
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keyword being hype...
we are being force fed hype to the point where most of think its fact now.
by HabPSU on Feb 8, 2012 1:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
These "discussions"
that NBA.com and ESPN.com put out are sad and pathetic.
They never offer any unique insight and, frankly, we all know what the situation is, we don’t need it to be re-hashed by every basketball “analyst” from here to Timbuktu.
hmmmm . . .
So that’s how you spell Timbuktu!
by iamabeefcake on Feb 8, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
slow sports day, i guess?
I hope they don’t make a living off of this stuff. Not worth the electronic paper it isn’t printed on.
Question #1...How much money do those pundits make ?
Question #2…Are there any job openings available ? Seems like easy money…
I'm not sure what "terrible decisions" the Nets made a few summers ago
Howard-Cooper speaks of that would prevent the Nets from having what they call a rosy future? Anyway, everything and anything up to this point is speculation, but as Schumann says, the fact of the matter is Dwight does want to be a Net.
We'll Be Fine.
So let me get this straight...
Deron is basically given the keys to the franchise, a franchise based in the biggest market in the world, with the richest owner in the game, and yet there is nothing there that would keep him around? Isn’t this the guy who has meetings with the coach and the GM about how to shape the team? This is the ideal situation for any player to be in, and if he can get the ring, he is instantly a god amongst the fans. BSPN just doesn’t want to deal with the fact that the Nets could be good
by Frigidevil on Feb 8, 2012 12:22 PM EST via Android app reply actions 2 recs
I think Deron will stay a Net
but all those things are nice, but if the team isn’t winning, none of it matters. Remember, Deron said he’d play in North Dakota if it meant his team was winning consistently.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
deron is involved with a lot it seems
But that can be a bad thing. The problem is no one still wants to come here. We wanted Brooklyn to sell players on the nets. Well we got that now, soooooo……
by HabPSU on Feb 8, 2012 1:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This shouldn't surprise anybody
Nobody is gonna give anyone any credit based on potential. You have to prove it on the court first. Did any of us think the Wolves could be an above .500 team? Or that Philly could keep up their success? This is how it works. Fact is the Nets are 8-18 and get blown out regularly. That’s not gonna change anyone’s opinion
you have to understand national writters or talking heads have no clue about any team thats not an elite team
i was watching pti and they were discussing how the lakers could get deron
ask any of these guys about a middle of the road team like houston for example and they will throw out a bunch of stuff that makes no sense like a kid taking an essay test who didnt study
by mightymosdefinition on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
uh, lots of people give credit for potential
it’s what sports writers do for a living.
Search google for “jeremy lin” if you dont believe me.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If lin wasnt on the knicks doing this
It wouldnt be noticed.
by 1stnamelastname on Feb 8, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I noticed when he went beast mode in summer league
Kid can play!
by Zartan on Feb 8, 2012 1:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I noticed when he went beast mode in summer league
Kid can play!
by Zartan on Feb 8, 2012 1:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
apples and oranges
jeremy lin is a single player that has had a couple of good games, not a team that is getting blown out regularly for the past 3 years. a 12 win season, a 24 win season, and now this. nets suck and will get zero respect until they prove something on the court.
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
Once Defenses get video tape of him he will fade quickly.
People need to remember that D"antoni’s system makes all PGs look like Steve Nash.
Remember Felton.
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The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!
Heck remeber Devin Harris 1 full year with the nets.
And his drop off after teams got tape on him in the dribble drive offense he still had a great year. But he went from dominant to good.
not the point
the comment was that “Nobody is gonna give anyone any credit based on potential.”
Every sports writer writes about potential. It makes up much of what is written about sports.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Nobody talked about Lin's potential
until he showed something on the court
if lin is the answer for the knicks
i will just kick back, relax, and watch the knicks franchise further solidify that fact that they are a joke…. everyone says the nets are that knicks little step childs, but its actually the other way around, look at the past decade, the nets have been significantly better
by King Of Russia on Feb 8, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Every day, I head Knicks fans call sports radio
saying how they hope the Nets have a good team in Brooklyn so they can jump ship b/c the Knicks are a joke. 10 yrs of waiting, just to get a healthy team of Melo, Stat, and Chandler that’s well under 500.
The fact is New Yorkers love basketball
Im sure that the fanbase is going to be somewhat fluid in Brooklyn in a situation analogous to the Jets and Giants. There will be diehards on both side and the Nets fans right now will have a chip on their shoulder for sticking with the team, but its going to come down to casual fans and which team puts out the best combination of value+product. Bandwagon be dammed, nets and knicks will flourish with casual tristate fans who arent married to either franchise
by cprash on Feb 8, 2012 3:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Think macro, not micro
Example – the Yankees traded for Pineda. All writers were talking about how he as 23 with a strong arm and bright future, comments were made like the Yankees are going to dominate moving forward with Pineda and CC at the top of the rotation. Those sort of statements are opinionated looks into the future of a team. It happens every year.
by ZR on Feb 8, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
wheres lopez credit or the nets credit for potential ?
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Feb 8, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
You write what sells; that's the formula
Plenty for Nix Clowns = plenty of Lin articles.
or search marshon brooks
o wait..
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
Lin is being credited with potential
Because he has shown glimpses of great ball. Where have we been shown anything? The win vs philly could have been a building block, instead it was aberration. Nets haven’t shown any glimpses of potential IMO.
by HabPSU on Feb 8, 2012 2:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I actually said in this forum that I thought Minny was going to be a good team
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
its cool to go against the nets amongst writers... smh
most writers dont follow the nets so they just go with whatever is the general perception of the nets
Best Quote that sums up what these SO CALLED NBA REPORTERS ARE.
If Williams was all in, he wouldn’t be headed toward free agency along with his good buddy Dwight Howard.
They are Idiots.
It has been explained so many times why people are not extending their contracts.
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yeah deron will just leave so much money on the table. come on. these writers are trash.
by JJ_22 on Feb 8, 2012 12:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
and howard could leave 30 million on the table
if the nets are such trash like everyone thinks deron wouldnt have a problem leaving that money on the table
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Feb 8, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
The differenct is
Howard will be able to make that $30 mil back easier then Dwill.
I would not be surprised that Agent already has endorsements that will generate an additional $30 mil to compensate for the money that will be lost.
Remember the Dwight was in BROOKLYN this summer working with company that endorses him already. I am pretty sure Adidas has an agreement similar to what D.Rose got maybe even better.
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The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!
I don't think he would have a problem
if he felt that there was a better situation out there for him to succeed, he would take it imo.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Feb 8, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Well that's just dumb...Deron himself has even said he's opting out to make more money, nothing to do with the Nets
Again, the problem with being a national type writer is that you don’t get to see everything like we do reading this site. An unfortunate truth.
by ZR on Feb 8, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
It annoys me how Lakers fans feel like they're team needs Dwill so much.
Give me a break, they’re successful every season, they don’t need any player. A good PG would improve them of course, but there are teams (like us) that need Dwill a lot more than the Lakers do. Cmon.
Not that they don't need him though, or any team for that matter
their standard is much much higher than ours. They are used to winning championship. We, by now, are used to discussing draft in January. Hopefully all turns around soon!
What amazes me about Laker fans
is how much they dismiss Lopez’ dominance, yet they keep talking about trading Pau for Deron and the Nets are suppose to jump at that chance
These guys are clowns. What else is new?
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Feb 8, 2012 12:36 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
hate hate hate
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Feb 8, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
LOL at the Lakers fans comments on that article
The Lakers lineup next year will be
Kobe Bryant, Deron Williams and Dwight Howard and as the Heat did in 2010-11 whoever else they can afford.
"It's not a lie, if you believe it" - George Costanza
"Silence is only golden when you can't think of a good answer" - Muhammad Ali
by browne14 on Feb 8, 2012 12:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
good god man
this is the ish that makes my blood boil
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
why are they idiots?
Yea a fan base hoping that a player comes and saves em are idiots. Sound familiar?
by HabPSU on Feb 8, 2012 2:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The comments they make are baseless.
Our hopes are based on articles by countless writers that feel dwight wants to come here. Our situation to get dwight is a whole lot more realistic than lakers getting dwight and deron. How would the cap permit that? How do you get rid of the players anyways. Lol I can rant about this all day :p.
by Nick Tortoise on Feb 8, 2012 2:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
hahaha sooo these countless articles
that netsdaily just presented to you that suggest dwight could go elsewhere are baseless but the ones you cite are much more based, why because you agree with em. All I’m saying is that you just called fans idiots because they think the same as you.
Besides wasnt there a new provision in the CBA that allows you to extend a current contract and spread money over more years to take q lessened cap hit makes it possible.
by HabPSU on Feb 8, 2012 7:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
a fan base that thinks that every other team with a superstar is looking to
trade their star to the Lakers for the Lakers’ garbage = idiots
by Murse Mike on Feb 8, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But it's baseless
The Nets have been listed as clear favorites by many of the top writers in the country, not just the tri-state area. There’s also no chance the Lakers could afford all three and put a solid team on the floor.
by ZR on Feb 8, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
No, they aren't idiots. This is what most people around the NBA think.
Which is why it’s funny when myself and others post stuff like this we get lambasted. The Nets chances of this all working out for them aren’t as good as we would like to think. The future of this franchise rests on the shoulders of a star player on the Nets roster who is making lists for Chris Broussard as a contingency plan and an immature superstar who is known to be indecisive.
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 12:39 PM EST reply actions
Will
it isnt the end of the world if Dwill leaves.
If we dont get Dwight by the trade deadline and Dwill tells BKing that he isnt resigning, then we will be ok.
Lopez, Brooks, Draft picks, and S&T Dwill to dallas for picks. We will be ok.
We were down this road already. What happened then? Kidd resigned when he could have joined Spurs.
Dont worry too much buddy. Everything will be alright.
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The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!
I agree, I just wish the Nets would have re-built the old fashioned way after Kidd and VC left
We would have a young upcoming team going into Brooklyn. They’ve been chasing these superstars for the past 5 years and it’s got them nowhere.
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
thats a myth
theres no right way or old fashioned way
it take luck building a team that way
by mightymosdefinition on Feb 8, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
so true
Analysts talk so much about how OKC and SA built contenders, yet they never mention how much luck it took to land guys like Duncan and Durant. Just look at the Nets’ history…
Nets’ no1 picks = Derrick Coleman, Kenyon Martin
- and they were the right picks to make
Orlando won the #1 pick 3x in less than 30 yrs, and the #1 picks taken those years-
Shaq, Webber, and Howard
The Nets suffer the worse record in the league, and are rewarded with Derrick Favors
The Spurs allow David Robinson to take his time nursing an injury, and are rewarded with Tim Duncan.
Yet those analysts never mention that…
by Murse Mike on Feb 8, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Old fashioned way?
There is no proven model. Now you’re just making stuff up.
The WORST thing this team could do was go into Brooklyn with a lineup based on “potential”. The WORST. See Mets, New York. See Citi Field.
by ZR on Feb 8, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Good point ZR
The Nets current trajectory of going into BK with a disgruntled unrestricted free agent star and a bunch of scrubs will lead them right to the top of the NBA. Building through the draft never works. It’s all about betting the farm on superstars.
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't go so far as to say building through the draft never works
b/c it has a history of working out sometimes and failing other times.
LOL I was being sarcastic. The draft is a crapshoot, but more of sure thing than preserving cap space for
superstars who may or not wind up there. Nets learned this the hard way in 2010 when they got the cold shoulder from every single star FA.
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
since when did the spurs want kidd
,they already had an all-star point guard in tony parker…. just saying, not really relevant to the discussion. but as for the discussion, if d-will leaves and we are left without howard, it may not be “the end of the world,” but that would seal our fate for the foreseeable future, we would move to brooklyn with a losing team, and will need a good 5 years, if we get very lucky, to rebuild and contend for a title. we need to be able to compete with teams like the heat and the bulls, and that cant be done without d will and howard
by King Of Russia on Feb 8, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
How long have you followed the Nets?
I only ask b/c after Kidd’s Nets lost to Duncan’s Spurs in the finals, the Spurs had max cap room to offer Kidd and did. Kidd had the chance to leave the Nets to join Tim Duncan’s championship team, but chose to stay with the Nets.
And this was before Tony Parker developed into a good player. During SA’s championship run, Parker didn’t even start, Avery Johnson did
this is true
and I believe that if Kidd agreed to go to the Spurs that San Antonio and Thorn already had a sign and deal in place which involved Parker going to the Nets.
that's not true at all
Tony Parker started every game and was backed up by Speedy Claxton. Avery was on Dallas.
just because its "what everyone thinks"
doesn’t mean that it isn’t idiotic.
a lot of this is LAZY.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
I would love to know how it's idiotic to think D-Will won't want to stick around for this
after a season and a half of terrible basketball and home crowds rooting for the timberwolves. Dwight is far from a lock.
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Injuries, still in NJ...
there are still a lot of strong positives for this team going forward. The nets would still be hard to walk away from given their potential in the 2012-13 season and forward. Prokhorov isn’t dumb, he knows that barclays will be filled every night.
if you think barclays will be filled every night if the nets have a losing team going into BK
i’ll just point you to another losing team with a brand new arena in NYC that can’t fill seats, the Mets
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Please tell us all how Lakers get DWill and D12
Detail it step by step with #s, trades…etc. Cuz if you’re going to believe or have more faith in what writers around the country think, who are getting paid to get readers to their sites, in order to satisfy Sponsors, then please satisfy us with your proposed ideas on how Lakers get DWill, D12 or how Dallas gets DWill, D12…and also give us a full educated analysis why those situations could be better than Brooklyn. OH, please also include the Nets as part of your analysis and how WE can get both DWill and D12 into Brooklyn next year as well, cuz for any or all of this to be fair then the argument has to be made for the Nets too.
by Versifiervt on Feb 8, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think the Lakers will get D-Will.
I think the Lakers will trade Bynum for Dwight, and Deron will sign with DAL as a free agent. As for the Nets? I think Billy King falls on the sword and gets fired, even though he was just doing what ownership wanted him to. They toil in the lottery in an empty brand arena for a few seasons before getting it together, hopefully with a new coach.
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Again with no real analysis
You do realize Bynum’s contract expires after 2012/13 season. And so you expect the magic to deal for a guy who A) may yet suffer another injury between now and than based on his career and B) if he develops into what we all think, his agent may want him in a big market too.
As for Dallas and DWill….Cuban went all-in by not resigning his championship team Free Agents. Problem is, I don’t think he saw Love and Westbrook getting extensions. So if D12 does end up in Lakers, what incentive does DWill have to play in Dallas? To play with Dirk and a bunch of scrubs that Cuban will have to settle for? So DWill will pass up on 30 million in NJ to play with Brook, Brooks, Morrow and whatever fish King can get here to add depth?
C’mon bro…bring your own analysis for once.
by Versifiervt on Feb 8, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I just peered into my crystal ball and told you what I think will happen
I don’t know what more you want than that. D-Will grew up a Mavericks fan. Cuban is a guy people want to play for. Mavs are on both Dwight and Deron’s lists. That awesome core you’re talking about for the Nets has won 8 games lmao.
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
uh huh
the awesome injured corp who also has no depth behind it?
seriously…i think this discussion with you ends here. I’ve figured you out. Nice talkin with ya.
Evenif you believe they have the best package... Jim Buss basically admitted Dwight doesn't want to go there
People leep ignoring that. LA isn’t getting Dwight, I’m sure of that.
a bunch of scrubs?
ya as opposed to our all star team. Also Otis won’t let dwight walk, he’ll flip him. He’s not gonna lose him, so yea if we trade the farm, the mavs look a lot more appealing than the nets. I hope that’s enough “research” for you champ.
by HabPSU on Feb 8, 2012 2:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
wait what?
Otis will trade him to dallas for who exactly?
Otis won’t let dwight walk, he’ll flip him. He’s not gonna lose him, so yea if we trade the farm, the mavs look a lot more appealing than the nets.
U realize u also did not do any research. LMAO
this doen't make any sense or maybe I don't uderstand
are you implying that if we give up the farm for dwight the mavs are more appealing therefore dwill will go to the mavs despite the nets having dwight?….
exactly
It’s funny how people use “reports” as their only basis of research instead of actually going to each team’s site and looking at the #s and studying each team’s current situation to see how that team can improve. I’m no expert at this and I’m just a fan but when I think about who the Nets can get from a certain team, I also look at that trading partner and try to figure out what make sense and how it can really work in ‘real life’ as opposed to guessing based of other people’s opinions which aren’t any more reliable than my own.
no just saying
Dwight may see that if we trade the farm for him, he’ll be on a team with Deron and…..On Dallas dwight would have talent around him
lol yeah filled every night just how the nets are used to
with fans of other teams laughing at nets players and cheering for the other team
Well with the negativity, and lame fan base like I see on this thread
It’s no wonder. Great support guys.
This is not in the least bit possible so year they are idiots.
The heat scenario worked because the team had space. Do you know how much Kobe makes in future years.
well put Will..
people are putting their hopes on a lot of word of mouth. If dwight wanted only nets, he’d be here by now. I just think we are an extremely hypocritical fan base. I hope dwight comes but I’ll never say its a done deal or poke fun at others for thinking he’ll go elsewhere. Their argument is backed by the same thing ours is, hope and hype.
by HabPSU on Feb 8, 2012 2:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I pretty sure they're poking fun at people thinking lakers will get both dwill and d12
which isn’t financially possible.
Considering that we are dwight’s top choince we are in the best position to aquire his services. This doesn’t mean we’ll get him but the chances aren’t exactly low.
Sekou Smith has no neck...
How can u support his comment? ;-)
OT: Bynum and Gordon both playing tonight for Detroit
Per Rotoworld
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
REALLY, REALLY...
Don’t worry about what they say. All will change when we move to Brooklyn. Even though the Nets have been one of the better teams in the past 10 years, people forget very quickly. WHEN WE MOVE TO BK, THEY WILL FORGET THE PLUNDERS OF THIS FRANCHISE. Just wait.
I love how Fatcow Smith
references free agency without mentioning how it makes NO SENSE to sign an extension. Awesome job.
The Problem with these
So-Called NBA REPORTERS is laziness.
The way they speak is like we have had a history of bad years. What the hell happen to the back to back Finals? Yeah this franchise hasnt been the best, but in the past 10 or 12 years we have been to the Finals Twice, back to back. Why do so called NBA REPORTERS seem to negate this?
VERY SIMPLE. LAZINESS.
yeah we had a bad year, 12 wins, but we have had better years then most teams. Yeah we didnt win the championship but tell me how many other teams have gone to back to back finals?
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by SIC One on Feb 8, 2012 12:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
because that was 10 years ago and irrelevant to the nets squads youve seen for the past 5 years
but i will say that even in 2002/2003 nets weren’t getting the respect they deserved
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
People want to hate on the Nets, that's all.
These guys are saying that the Nets are cursed, while the Knicks haven’t won a playoff game in a decade. It’s purely blind hate. They sound like fans more reporters to me. Any other team that had a good chance to pair Deron and Dwight would have been praised and relished. But with the Nets, it’s always negativity and denial.
I want this done so badly. I want all these people saying there’s no chance we get Deron and Dwight to look stupid and bitter.
I have a question...
Can Orlando trade Dwight to the Nets after the season is over and before he becomes a FA in July ?
yea, but they would get crap for him ala lebron and bosh
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe not...
Maybe Otis and King make an agreement to let Howard play out the season with Orlando.
Howard gets his wish to play in the playoffs, Nets # 1 pick will probably be pretty high and the Nets end up keeping MarShon in return…Everybody ends up happy.
what man?
if dwight had the option to become a FA and can sign with the nets, why would he agree to be traded, when he can just walk on that team for nothing. therefore he wouldbe walking onto a better team with more talent, and the draft pick
by King Of Russia on Feb 8, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
for more money
"Good pitching will always stop good hitting and vice-versa." -- Casey Stengel
by calling all toasters on Feb 8, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
yes, but here's the problem with that
trades are permitted either after the regular season if a team isn’t in the playoffs or after a playoff team is eliminated. So both teams have to have cleared out their lockers for a deal to get done AND contracts that expire on July 1 CANNOT be traded after the trade deadline, period.
So it limits the teams’ options.
In the case of the Cavs and Raptors, they agreed to do sign and trades involving draft picks. LeBron, D-Wade and Bosh didn’t sign immediately, meaning the Heat had all that cap room, making it easy to trade picks for players. And that’s what they did. The benefit to the players and the Heat was that they could be signed to six year deals rather than five year deals (an option no longer available under the CBA). The benefit to the Cavs and Raps was that they got the picks and huge trade exceptions. As I recall, the Raptors used part of their TE, the Cavs used none of it.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
what is houston's major announcement?
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LOL.
These guys are clueless. They know very little about the Nets;Therefore, I wouldn’t even pay attention to this.
"Beware the Ides of March."
Until they prove otherwise, the Nets are cursed.
Would have thought this stuff would end once it became clear the Barclays Center is happening. Also very unprofessional to resort to superstition, even if rhetorical, in your analysis.
by Accelerate on Feb 8, 2012 1:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
Professionals.
Wasnt the Boston Red Socks cursed?
SMH!!!!
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by SIC One on Feb 8, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
thats a fair statement
Brooklyn was a device to calm the fan base down as in it’ll all change when we’re there. I hope it does. But like they said until they show me something I think we’re cursed
by HabPSU on Feb 8, 2012 2:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
When was the last time their beloved Knicks advanced past the 1st round again...?
How many POs did they miss in last 10 years? talk about cursed…
but carmelo anthony is an all-star and jeremy lin is the best point guard of all time
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You forgot
THE MECCA of Basketball.
NO LONGER
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/2010-11-23-486469609_x.htm
“Memphis, Atlanta, Baltimore, D.C., Chicago, they’re all producing better players than New York right now,” says Jerry Meyer, national recruiting analyst for Rivals.com.
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by SIC One on Feb 8, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I am happy for Jeremy Lin...
I have a Taiwanese co-worker that is totally pumped. Nice story if you put aside our Nets hate.
by rundmc00 on Feb 8, 2012 1:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
please
the media has been ripping the knicks terribly. they’re not getting a hallpass either. the jeremy lin thing is obviously being overhyped but that’s it.
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
its unfair to the nets though
the media doesn’t even mention that we are the favorites for dwight or that we are going to brooklyn to start fresh..they focus too much on the past and our current struggles
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because they fail to mention that we are the favorite for dwight and that we are moving to brooklyn to start fresh, they just focus on our current struggles
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First of all they did note that Dwight wants to go to the Nets
Second of all they’re not Nets fans, they’re NBA analysts. A new arena doesn’t win you basketball games. It may help the nets long term but right now it’s a construction site in Brooklyn and a bunch of artists’ renderings.
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
i know they aren't Nets fans
no one is a Nets fan, at least not any respectable NBA analyst, and i understand that a new arena doesn’t get you wins, but the Nets are in a good position cap space wise, pick wise, and dwight howard wise and im sure if we don’t get dwight billy has plans just like carmelo and dwill
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Analysts always mentioned
the Nets playing in a swamp, in one of the worst arenas in the country. Which was true, and a big reason why FAs didn’t want to come here.
But now that the Nets improved in that area, they never mention anything about it. It’s just not fun to give a team like the Nets any kind of credit. Just like how the Nets took control of the Armor, and the Knicks felt threatened so they did the same thing. But those kind of things don’t get mentioned either, b/c saying anything good about the Nets isn’t popular.
the NYG and NYJ play in that same swamp
and have no trouble getting free agents
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
NYG rarely sign any big FAs
and Giants Stadium was not considered the worst football stadium to play in. Izod is a dump
Izod > Rock
The Rock is newer & has some nice amenities, but from a strictly basketball viewing point of view, the Izod Center was much better.
because Dwight is all up in the air
sure there is a good chance of getting him, but it isn’t a definite. The only definite is the Nets have won eight games this season
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Feb 8, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i understand that
but if ur talking about the future you have to mention that and none of the writers did from what i can see
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It's still very anti-Nets biased
The only definite is the Nets have won eight games this season
According to these analysts, it’s also a definite that Deron leaves too.
And notice how they don’t mention anything about a Brook Lopez, MarShon Brook, Anthony Morrow, or max cap room? I did.
They are ripping them
because they HAVE to NOW. They cant make anymore excuses. Clearly the coach sucks but it has more to do with the players NOW especially after Mr. LIN.
They werent doing so before.
They
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They
are not as good as they thought they were going to be. The made a HUGE splash that will hold them back for 10 more years.
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I agree, I'll take the nets position right now over the knicks 10 times out of 10
They already have their stars, and it was a terrible pairing that isn’t working. Nets still have youth and picks. Plus deron williams or whatever they can get for him at the deadline.
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 8, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
It's amazing how Lin is so important to the Knicks future...
They go no where without a PG and they are banking on the kid from Harvard.
by rundmc00 on Feb 8, 2012 1:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
tyson was a big mistake...
Unless lin is the real deal.
by rundmc00 on Feb 8, 2012 1:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Fran Blinebury
I don’t think they have what it will take to get Dwight Howard in a trade when Otis Smith finally has to make his move close to the deadline. And without Howard, there’s no bright future in Brooklyn. Hello, Dallas.
O , then please explain to us what other team out there has what it takes the Lakers? not so sure about that….the Mavs? cap space is tricky….
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by Keysta101 on Feb 8, 2012 1:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
These writers dont do it to big fan bases because of the amount of hate they will get, they are like bullies they pick on the small fan base so they can get away with it.
by RandyOreens on Feb 8, 2012 1:17 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
These writers need to
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Feb 8, 2012 1:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
RE: media biases, one thing I do find hilarious
I’m pretty sure Jeremy Lin has gotten more coverage for his 2 good games as a pro, than Marshon Brooks had in his entire mind blowingly good season for a 25 pick.
hhahahahaha
of course
jeremy lin plays for the knicks
marshon for the nets
marshon>jeremy
but knicks> nets in media eyes
as i said before i wouldn’t be surprised if marshon got snubbed for the rookie sophmore game
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Well we have all of their names
So if and when Dwill resigns, and we sign Dwight we can go over and make them eat their words.
JKidd Era 2! Starring D.Williams as the lead actor, Avery Johnson as Byron Scott, and Player X as Player Y.
Let the show begin!
Dwight Howard wants to play for the nets and Derron Williams and new arena and put this franchise back on the map but our future is ugly.
if we don't get dwight
im never watching espn again or going to school, do you have much moiso i have been talking to my friends saying how the nets are getting dwight howard and we will win a championship by 2015…
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like his work ethic, at least from what I read
hope he learns to play better defense and he will be special.
NBA.com are total nets haters except for Schuman.
Ashburner who I can’t stand because he also hates VC. I know he didn’t comment.
Fran Blinebury and Scott Howard Cooper something awful and huge kincks homers.
Powell isn’t as bad as the others but still a bit of a hater. Maybe its just that he’s not as big a knick fanboy.
Schmuan is actually a nets fan but is objective.
Smith never seen him say anything nice about the nets, but haven’t seen him say all that much about them to be fair.
To be fair I can't remember
how much Aschburner hates on the nets or if its just his hate on VC, rants about Minny where he got his start and opinions on other matter that I often disagree with that irks me. He usually doesn’t say much nice about the nets though to be sure.
so because they are hating they are wrong?
Ya can’t pick and choose who is right and wrong based on who you agree with. I think each writer makes a valid point.
by HabPSU on Feb 8, 2012 1:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
hmmm...
I wonder what this same panel would have said about the Clippers a yr and a half ago…
They would have probably said exactly the same thing and just replace “Deron Williams” and “Nets” and plug in “Blake Griffin” and “Clippers”…
Im sure these guys are all on the bandwagon now!
by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM EST reply actions
that conversation would say something like
“Blake griffen is the best dunker of all time”
“Clippers are instant championship contenders”
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Nothing like some Nets-hate to bring us together!
These “Nets Are Cursed” stories are so incredibly lame. Jounalists are sheep and right now (and for the last few years) the “Nets S*ck” story has been one they’ve all chosen to follow. You see it when you watch ESPN (they’ll show highlights of a Nets game but all they show will be of the opposing team, etc.)
As much as the Nets have lost this year, they have not been awful. They’ve actually played OK, given their injuries: their starting C and 2nd best player hasn’t played all season; another starter (James) out nearly all season; their surprising rookie and #2 scorer has missed a bunch of games; and two important back ups/replacement starters (Okur and Stevenson) have missed a bunch of games. I’m not sure how many teams could withstand this level of injuries. But, of course, that’s a sympathetic story and writers need to mock rather than show sympathy or reasoned analysis.
While I’m far from certain about DH and DW teaming up, it’s certainly a possibility and more likely than any other outcome for these two guys. I’m willing to wait and hope that the lure of $ for DW and the lure of NY (for both of them) is enough to get it done. And if we can’t get DH and can pair DW with a healthy Lopez, I think that if a few complimentary pieces can be added, next year the Nets will be playing exciting, winning basketball.
by CBEE on Feb 8, 2012 1:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The curse of the Nets: Dr. J. Enough said, but if you want more:
Recently: Ratner tearing the team apart. K-Mart bolting. Alonzo and his injury and his forcing his way out. Kidd and his injury against Pistons. 0 – 14 or was it more that we lost in a row? That guys crazy shot, a third string point guard hitting that crazy shot. Kidd’s headache. Our last 5 drafts. Lopez injury. MarShon’s injury. The loss of John Wall to the ping pong balls. Melo. etc, etc, etc,
losing Kareem… I mean Lew Alcindor
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by calling all toasters on Feb 8, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Heh.
It’s not just stupidity, it’s pure and utter laziness.
What the blank happened to journalism?
by Dopeness on Feb 8, 2012 1:48 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I've said this so many times this year
Ever since the Melodrama, I lost almost all of my respect for sports journalists.
by ZR on Feb 8, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
yes, agrred, part of the curse… oh yeah you remind me of kiki and Yi as part of the curse. What a waste. But Rat tore this team apart.
i remember the day VC was traded
i never forgave the Nets for that
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I still remember people trying to sell me on Lee.
What a joke I was pissed we gave up Anderson too that trade still makes my blood boil. Such Moiso.
here we go with everyone discounting these writers
because we don’t agree. All these writers make valid arguments. I’m hopeful but honestly, other than the new arena, we’ve been constantly sold dreams and future, nothing tangible. I think we will get dwight only because we have to at this point. I just don’t like seeing people poo poo these writers. What they write is plausible and probable in some cases.
by HabPSU on Feb 8, 2012 1:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I discount them because they clearly haven't been paying attention
They might as well write an op-ed. I might as well write an op-ed for a high school newspaper and call myself an NBA journalist.
by ZR on Feb 8, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Just tuned to ESPN 1050 and...
All i could hear was Lin and his pick and rolls with chandler, Jafferies, Amre etc etc..Lin is God. Lin is that…OMG…
Rememer one thing if he was bad before he is bad now…you dont become great in couple of games…Not hating on Lin but this is too much…
it's the New York media
the disparity in coverage between us and the Knicks is so large it’s laughable. They annoint a fringe player who had two career games as the savior of the franchise. Meanwhile we’re perennially cursed and not worth giving the time of day, even though just a week ago we had the same record.
agreed it is too much...and way overhyped
but even if Lin disappears… what can be learned from his play and his approach to the game (even if this winds up being a small sample) would be invaluable if some of the, ahem, elite PG’s in this league paid attention.
imagine if the Knicks...
had Marshon Brooks?!?! It would be the second coming after a couple of 20 pt games…
by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on Feb 8, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I am not mad at the article at all...
I’m not saying i agree with what was said. However, it should be expected that the nets get little to no respect. That’s the way sports journalism is. 2 years ago, the clippers were the biggest joke in sports. Writers called them the worste franchise in ALL of team sports. Now people are talking about them taking over L.A,
Bottom line, nets fans cannot be so sensitive. Our team sucks. It has for a long time. And until we put a winning team on the floor, people will diss us. As they should. And just like the clippers, if we make the right draft picks and the right moves, we will shut those same people up.
by aug93 on Feb 8, 2012 1:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Totally agree.
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Well
We have put all our eggs in DWIGHT basket….I feeel very nervous…Knowing the way nets FO have conducted business in past.
Different FO...
I am quite for sure there is a plan B. Just because we do not know it, doesn’t mean one doesn’t exist. BK is paid millions of dollars to run this team. I seriously doubt he has all his eggs in one basket… We cannot think of what a plan B entails because we are not GM’s. But I do think one is in place…
What could be plan B?
Let say we dont get Dh12. What next? Is there anyone we can get that would convince DWill to stay?
Iguodala?
BK has already expressed interest
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Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
To be honest with you, I don't know what could be the plan B
But we are not paid to know. We are not paid to figure it out. However BK is.
Plan B...if we don't get Howard at trade deadline...
is seeing how Deron plays with Brook Lopez, MarShon Brooks etc. If they can play .500 ball or better maybe Deron considers signing with us or maybe he picks up his 1 year player option and sees how off season moves and playing in Brooklyn suits him…
deron
seems like the kind of guy that neeeeeds to win… so i dont think he sticks around on a .500 team when he can sign with the lakers or the mavs in FA. i could see him picking up his player option, and entering FA after tnext season.
by King Of Russia on Feb 8, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
thats easy to say
but when teams like the heat exist, you cant just rebuild “the righ tway” the fact is that there is no “rigth way” to rebuild, it involves a lot of luck.
by King Of Russia on Feb 8, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Heat messed it up
They just messed up everything for others and now they are not evening winning championships…Fools
its exactly like the steroid complex in baseball
If one of them juices, everyone has to in order to keep up.
by King Of Russia on Feb 8, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Lin will come back down to Earth
Until then, this is all we’ll hear about. Remember Landry “untouchable in Melo talks” Fields?
Since we are commenting on Lin, let me add this
If we had some interior presence, he would not have score most of his points against us. Our bigs were always late allowing open lane to the basket once Chandler sets the screen to block DWill or other PG defending Lin. I didn’t watch Jazz game so cannot comment on that. One thing is clear, Lin is a smart basketball player.
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You don't go to Harvard
if you’re dumb
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I meant BBIQ.
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by calling all toasters on Feb 8, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
okay, so...
you don’t go to Harvard if you’re dumb, unless your daddy is a rich and powerful government figure
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
then Harvard Business
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
Lin outplayed Farmar and DWill
Give the guy credit. Yes, NY hypes all. But the Knicks need something to hope for, they have been less than mediocre. He beat us. No denying that. DWill could not contain him. Sure, it helps when a team has to double Melo or Amare, but still.
All the Knicks needed was a pass-first PG. Lin should do fine, and I think Knick fans should be excited.
"Beware the Ides of March."
In Dantoni's system, he is going to do very well...
Knicks should be excited…
I don't agree with that
DWill had so many open shots that he missed. It was hard driving against Chandler and Jeffries. Both are good defensive players. Our bigs didn’t do a good job on Lin. One screen to lose DWill or Farmar and Lin had an open lane to the basket. There was no help defense.
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by NDTony on Feb 8, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Moiso LIn
and Moiso all this LIN talk. Take that Moiso to posting and toasting
Who cares what these writers say really?
Has DWill asked Billy King for a trade? NO!
Has Dwight asked for a trade? Yes!
Has Dwight recinded his trade request? NOOOOOOO!
Do the Nets have the assets to get Dwight in a trade? Yes!
Whats the only team that can afford Dwight and DWill? the Nets!
Did DWill say he might even pick up his 1 year option? Yes!
Are the Knicks a mess? Yes!
Considering the injuries have the Nets given up? NO!
by DJ HeavyDuty on Feb 8, 2012 2:07 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Do you love exclamation points?
YES!
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by Taylor Made on Feb 8, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
totally agree
I think AJ and D-Will have done a great job with this pathetic excuse for a roster that they have now. How many teams, especially ones built around a pass first PG could bounce back from losing:
Starting Center /team’s leading scorer/ best post scorer AND defender – hasn’t played yet
Starting SF – really, only SF – out the rest of the season
Starting SG – Brooks – has missed significant time
Backup Center – Okur wasn’t playing that well when healthy either
If not for our guard play and Hump, this boat wouldn’t have sunk a lot further
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Rising Stars Challenge rookies: Irving, Rubio, Brooks, Knight, Leonard, Morris, T. Thompson, Walker, D. Williams
No Chump or Lin.
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Rising Stars Challenge Sophs: Griffin, Cousins, Fields, George, Hayward, Monroe, Splitter, E. Turner, Wall
"Beware the Ides of March."
Most of the rookies are PGor SG
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Four of the sophs are bigs
plus George and Hayward both with size.
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wow
didn’t think Blake would be in it
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wait fields made it hahahahahhaha
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Feb 8, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
but he plays for the Knicks
so that doesn’t matter much
Lin's technically a sophomore
and his sample size is WAY too small to just throw in the game on a whim
They still got Fields
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As long as we keep Dwill for 2012 we can be aplyoff team
A team of B Lopez, Brooks, Dwill, Couple of good picks in 2012 first round and good role playersl ike morrow should be a playoff team.
But you forgot that D-Will is leaving
to play with a rapidly declining 34yr old Dirk and make a lot less money
Brooks in ....!!!???
johnschuhmann John Schuhmann
Supposed to return in the next week or so. RT @myown4nw: @johnschuhmann why is brooks chosen even though he won’t be able to play.
He needs some reps
Needs to prove to Magic he can play (if he gets traded, which I don’t think will happen).
by ZR on Feb 8, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
HATERS GONNA HATE, LOVERS GONNA LOVE
I DON’T EVEN WANT, NONE OF THE ABOVE… (Chappelle’s Show)
by mzBKnets on Feb 8, 2012 2:21 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I don't think the writers were hating on the nets. I just think they don't believe in them...
Let’s be honest, given our team’s history, can we blame them?
they hate on the Nets
they completely ignore SOOO many things that the Nets have in their favor while pretending that things like D-Will saying "90% means he’s dying to play with a 34yr old Dirk who is in rapid decline
This rountable is beyond idiotic
and usually I try to look at it from both ends, but these guys did not offer any substantial information as to why the Nets’ future as ugly.
John Schuhmann: Yes. Nothing has really changed since the start of the season, when Williams expressed confidence in Billy King’s game plan, which is to go all-in on Dwight Howard by preserving assets and next year’s cap space. All indications are that Brooklyn is Howard’s preferred destination, and the Nets have both the assets (Brook Lopez, MarShon Brooks, picks and expiring deals to exchange for Hedo Turkoglu) and the leverage (the ability to sign Howard in the summer) to get a deal done. The Lopez injury was a setback, it’s been a pretty ugly month and a half, and a Howard trade certainly isn’t guaranteed. But nothing has really altered King’s vision of opening the Barclays Center with Dwight and D-Will as Brooklyn Nets.
This is the most informed opinion. Compared to this:
Sekou Smith: Who says he ever believed it? Williams was put in an impossible situation last season when the Jazz traded him to the Nets. Unlike many of his superstar peers, he didn’t make a decision to take his talents to Newark. That decision was made for him. Whether or not he’s buying into the Brooklyn future of the Nets remains to be seen. And just how rosy was that future supposed to be anyway?
Seriously? This is a bunch of nothing. No facts, no information, just a bunch of hot air
and this:
Scott Howard-Cooper: If I’m Deron Williams, I never believed it in the first place. Based on what? The excitement of a new owner who shows a commitment to spending? That’s a nice starting point, but there were also some terrible decisions a couple summers ago.
What terrible decisions? The ones that have put the Nets in a position to either trade for Howard now or sign him OUTRIGHT in the summer? Is this guy a moron?
The NBA helps to fuel this garbage. The Nets currently aren’t helping to change the perception either, but this is beyond ignorant.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 8, 2012 2:30 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
a couple summers ago
our owner was Brett Ratner and our GM was Rod Thorn.
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Brett Ratner
is also moiso.
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by calling all toasters on Feb 8, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
and as bad as those two were
they cleared cap space so that the team could be sold to Prokhy, and now here we are at the point of no return. We’re either going to the mountain top, or we’re going to take Lopez, Brooks, our pick(s), and cap room and start climbing. But at least we have something.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 8, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
At this point...
I would be happy with anything that cant win. B Lopez, Brooks and few good picks with Hump n morrow is not that bad of a team. It might take them sometime to gel and play like a team but atleast no mor trade nonsense….
Ppl just want Nets to play solid ball and not have this circus of trade every year.
nice to have you back MDB
I’ve missed your posts.
And for the writers above, unfortunately i think their tune would’ve changed even if we had won not too long ago. We built up some steam coming into the Timberwolves game (morrow scored 40+) and the Knicks game. If we had won both, gotten closer to the 8th playoff spot, I think we may have moved certain perspectives on the Nets nationally and locally.
Those were two disheartening games. We really needed to win those. I know we’re undermanned and injury prone and blah blah blah, but had we won those 2 games i think momentum woudl’ve changed in our favor. Our lost to the bulls would’ve been a loss, not a blow up that you normally expect from the nets.
Every time we get an ounce of respect from non-nets fans, we undo it. Not saying anyone is at fault specifically, but the reason writers will continue writing trash about us is because they can. We have given no actual changes that would not allow them to write their trash.
Also, as to the Knicks, the beat writers and national writers have pissed on them for about 10 years. They are back in the spotlight and are destroying their image far worse than we could’ve ever done. If they come back and make the playoffs and go into the post season past round 1, their image is saved. if they don’t make the playoffs then their “star studded” team is a joke and failure.
Unfortunately….the same exact scenario could almost be said for us….in Brooklyn,.
by Roccor420 on Feb 8, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It was actually Kiki Vandeweghe
Thorn was President. Vandeweghe cleared the cap.
by ZR on Feb 8, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
great piece on Lin:
http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2012/02/08/the-ups-and-downs-of-the-jeremy-lin-experience/
The Lin experience also reiterates to me a fact that I’ve long known and long refused to admit: Knicks fans are perhaps the most annoying of all despicable New York sports fans. We’re as cocky as Yankee fans without the winning pedigree to make it as fun to hate us. We’re simultaneously as sad sack-y as Mets fans despite the fact that we now have marquee players and our home court is perhaps the greatest sports venue in America. We’re as obnoxious on the streets of New York as Rangers fans, as meathead-y as Giants fans, and have as much tacky and cultish devotion to our team as Jets fans.
by sheepareevil on Feb 8, 2012 2:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I was going to say that.
We just make fun of the Knicks we dont care about their players.
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most of the article is about the nature of Knicks fans and media hype
excuse me for thinking it was relevant in a thread about media perception
LMFAO
Trey asked me to divert my attention from Carmelo to Lin and I was more than happy to do so, because I don’t know if you’ve heard this, but at the time of this writing Jeremy Lin has had TWO good games in a row. In New York, that means he is the savior who has descended from Heaven to save the Knicks from anything ranging from D’Antoni’s horrific coaching, Toney Douglas’s downfall, or the existence of Jared Jeffries.
by Anthony Perez on Feb 8, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
This is fantastic
And these two games have exposed how the minds of Knicks fans work. In the New York media/blogosphere, Jeremy Lin’s two good games in a row are miraculous game-changer turning points in our season on par with the following:
- The French agreeing to help the Colonials during the American Revolution.
- The Elves showing up last minute to help fight at Helm’s Deep in the movie version of Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
-Jay Z inexplicably rapping over Linkin Park songs and making otherwise rational people think for just a nanosecond that Linkin Park was catchy.
by Anthony Perez on Feb 8, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Who says writers ever knew what they were talking about?
Who says these writers aren’t Nets haters?
Who says that anybody beside BK and Proky knows what going on with Deron?
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Marshon made the rookie team.hopefully he plays
by antdatruth08 on Feb 8, 2012 2:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
NBA.com
TNT Analysts Mike Fratello and Steve Kerr will be part of the coaching staffs for the teams, with Fratello joining TEAM CHUCK and Kerr joining TEAM SHAQ
Shaq is toast. Chuck has Fratello.
"Beware the Ides of March."
Do they coach the Rookie vs Soph Game?
If they do, who gets the rookies?
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you obviously arent firmiliar with the new format of the rookie sophmore game
research into that, its not rookies vs. sophs any more, its mixed
by King Of Russia on Feb 8, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Oh
I dont pay much attention to All Star Weekend anymore.
It is a BS event. They have ruined everything about it. Now they invite people instead of just having people join the 3pt shooting and dunking contest. They have changed rules so much that is sucks now.
This is just another example of the NBA’s BS. It should be Rookie vs. Sophomores. This Mixed squad stuff is stupid.
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anyone else remember
when the Rookie game was just rookies?
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my problem
is the fan voting. For the game starters I think it’s okay (although it leads to things like Yao starting without having played a single game). But I hate that the dunk contest finals are decided by fans. You get people who don’t even watch the event voting. I’d rather see the fans vote for who gets to be in it, then let the judges decide who wins.
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I rarely watch the game
I pretty much only watch Saturday night anymore
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http://www.nba.com/2012/allstar/2012/02/08/shooting-stars-roster-pool/index.html
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Big Al hookin up the Nets on Twitter!
First he has to do his job and report on the Knicks:
Al Iannazzone @Al_Iannazzone Landry Fields named to Rookie-Sophomore Game. Shumpert didn’t make it. Lin didn’t either.
But then….
Al Iannazzone @Al_Iannazzone By the way, Nets rookie MarShon Brooks made the rookie-sophomore game.
Glad to see Iannazone remaining classy despite reporting on the least classy organization in the league. I know knicks fans come in here, so I might as well take a shot at them since I don’t “troll” on their board the way they do here. LOL. Go Nets!!!
He tweeted that after I wrote this:
@Al_Iannazzone give some love to Nets for old times sake and say Brooks made it. :)
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Al is pretty cool...
I saw his interview on YES the other day when they were playing the Knicks and he still has nice things to say about the Nets and seems sincere saying them.
I'm going back and forth with him.
I hate to see him work for Dolan’s paper.
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what's up with all these so called writers
Y is it that blo doesn’t get any credit or respect until this recent injury he has been top among centers and it seems everyone has forgotten how good he is
by xxblazindroxx on Feb 8, 2012 2:51 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
just read this thread and some guy named zartan said he would trade dwill for lin and a 1st pick!!!!!!
I’m calling this guy out!!!! I definetely want to have a desk discussion where his mind is at because I’m just so mad when I see comments like this that makes no sense to me!!!
by netsfanallday on Feb 8, 2012 2:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
this is what he wrote
No joke I seen more talent in Lin than I ever seen in Deron. Maybe because he’s one of those players that I just don’t care for.
You give me Lin and I know what I’ll get every might. I’d trade Dwill for Lin and a 1st.
by netsfanallday on Feb 8, 2012 3:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I want to see the "Rising Stars Challenge" have their own jerseys
I hate seeing 8 different colors running up and down the floor. Just copy the All-Star ones (which are awful, btw) but have them say CHUCK and SHAQ or something.
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lol I read that too
I was wondering if he is blind or just don’t watch ne games
by xxblazindroxx on Feb 8, 2012 2:58 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Who world is Powell living in?
the Nets are cursed, much like the Clippers
Last time I checked, the Clippers have a top 3 point guard and superstar who is only in his sophomore year. Powell also had a number of typos in his paragraph. Who edits these thing?
I think it's fine.
If Lin is the answer for the knicks
i will just kick back, relax, and watch the knicks franchise further solidify that fact that they are a joke…. everyone says the nets are that knicks little step childs, but its actually the other way around, look at the past decade, the nets have been significantly better
I don't care if I'm hating
I can’t wait for this guy to bust. He’s not really that good.
by mzBKnets on Feb 8, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I only like Lin because he saved D'antoni's job.
by Rodney Buford on Feb 8, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
this
The Lin guy will fall like there is no tomorrow. Wait till the teams start forcing left and give him J’s … fail.com
by d2d on Feb 8, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
I think he is a decent backup point guard type of player
But, people have to start forcing this guy left. I haven’t seen him make many moves at all going to his left hand. He also seems to struggle shooting jumpers from the perimeter.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Feb 8, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
rec'd
"Good pitching will always stop good hitting and vice-versa." -- Casey Stengel
by calling all toasters on Feb 8, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, I feel bad for the guy
I read somewhere that he doesn’t have a permanent home. Kudos to him, he’s leaving it all on the floor out there.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
SUE THEM
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I wouldnt mind him succeeding
if he wasnt on the Knicks. The Knicks over extrapolate EVERYTHING
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Yep
I am shaking my head too.
I like his game, but it is sad that Knicks fans think he is their savior. But these are the same Knick fans that think we should trade Dwill and BROOKS for Amare or Melo. They arent the smartest NBA fans. They are just Knick Fans.
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income, if i was u i wouldn't even waste my time talking about those haters.
we’re most likely getting howard anyways so just wait and see is all.
That's their safety net - no pun intended
They do nothing but completely trash the Nets, and the closer we get to the trade deadline, the more that they give the Nets a small glimmer of hope – Dwight Howard.
Now they say that everything is leaning on Howard, b/c if he Nets don’t get him, the franchise is sunk. But if we do get him, then he saved us and is the only reason D-Will stays.
It’s like saying that he Clippers would’ve been terrible but then they traded for Paul. There’s no way to prove that.
chris broussard just made a reference to the 2002 nj nets
in talking about how chris paul shoul be mvp, he compared cp3 taking the clippers from 8 games below .500 to 8 above- being like what Jkidd did with the nets
Blake is capable of doing a lot on his own
Most of the Nets couldn’t and needed Kidd next to them
JamesOn Curry, Jeff Foote, and Jerry Smith make the d-league all star game for the Armor
MarShon the Messiah
Atleast one of our D-League teams is winning
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Maybe we should mix and match
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no Horner?
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wow
there are 2 guys in the D-League all-star game who are currently on NBA rosters. that seems a little messed up to me.
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OT
does anyone know how to make videos? like mixtapes and whatnot?
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how?
not like music mixtapes, like highlight mistapes
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If someone wants to paint an ugly picture of the Nets.....
Just hire a local artist and have him draw a sketch of Popeye Jones and Johan Petro….
What are we waiting for....?????
We should call the Knicks and offer DWILL for JLIN immediately…….
Come On Man
BKing is working on that right now. That is PLAN LIN if the Dwight thing doesnt work out.
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