Did Kobe Call Screw Up Dwight Deal?
by Net Income on Feb 6, 2012 10:39 AM EST
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PrintTo sum up ... over the weekend, both Alex Kennedy of HoopsWorld and Jarrod Rudolph of RealGM reported on a call that Kobe Bryant made to Dwight Howard in which Bryant purportedly told Howard he would have to accept that the Lakers were his team and that Howard could play a secondary or maybe tertiary role.
The conversation, along with Howard's desire to create his own legacy ... and not fulfill Shaquille O'Neal's ... has dropped the Lakers way below the Nets, with Kennedy telling Nets Are Scorching that partly because of this, "The Nets are the front-runners" and Rudolph going further, stating, " Howard's representatives have informed the Lakers that Howard would not sign an extension if they trade for him this season".
All this is too much for Matt Moore of NBC Sports who thinks it would be "crazy" for Howard to tell the Lakers they're done. He also suggests it all may be a "subterfuge" by the Nets.
Maybe, but everyone seems to have missed this: First word of the Bryant call came two weeks ago in an article written by two long-time and highly reliable beat writers for the Los Angeles Times. They reported, "One person with knowledge of the conversation said Howard came away feeling as if he wouldn't be the Lakers' top option, for obvious reasons. It's Bryant's team." Don't think the Killer B's are planting stories in the Laker locker room...yet.
- #NASTV: Alex Kennedy – "I do think (Dwight) ends up on the Nets." - Justin DeFeo - Nets Are Scorching
- Lakers Slip In Pursuit Of Dwight Howard - Jarrod Rudolph - RealGM
- Rumor: Kobe Bryant has blown chances for Lakers to get Dwight Howard by telling him he'll be third-option - Matt Moore - NBC Sports.
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Let's make it happen...
Winning is everything...Losing is not an option...
Section 4, Row 12...last season at The Rock...
Kobe's way of pay back to nets organization...
….for forcing Calippari to go another direction(Kittles). Hehe.
by Versifiervt on Feb 6, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
From Nets Are Scorching...
"Brooklyn’s part of the draw, he definitely wants to go to a large market." "Him and Deron are getting closer, which helps." He wants to create a legacy of his own without being a second fiddle… he wants help, but he wants to be the face of the franchise." "Deron has done a good job selling it: ‘you can be the face of the franchise.’ Deron realizes that Dwight is a top-3 player in the game."
Winning is everything...Losing is not an option...
Section 4, Row 12...last season at The Rock...
Dwlll isn't vain (as it appears Kobe is).
He just wants to win. He doesn’t care if he’s considered the #1 or #2 guy on the team.
i agree with you D Will is unselfish
during the game he lookks to make extra pass etc even thought his teamates trash
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 6, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
give the magic our picks, or give then Brooks and let them keep their terrible contracts
me too… but i actually really do love these threads.
by njnets2010 on Feb 6, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Kobe owed us one for not letting us draft him and scaring our gm into some trash player
by NetsDynasty on Feb 6, 2012 10:51 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah, Kittles was no shlub
But he was no Kobe, no Stojakovic, no Nash—who else was right after him? Derek Fisher? Kittles was a stud coming out of Villanova, though. Does he still work in the Nets FO?
by brother_rat on Feb 6, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he had some good seasons in NJ
but just a few years after drafting him, he was out of the league and the Nets had only a TPE for him
Ok, I know he's not Kobe Bryant,
No player the Nets ever had since Dr.J was even close to Kobe Bryant. But don’t disrespect Kittles. He is one of the best players we ever had. You should educate yourself:
http://netsarescorching.com/2011/10/07/top-44-nets-of-all-time-kerry-kittles/
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 6, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
Really...that was so wrong.
Kittles was a key member of the greatest Nets teams in the NBA era. We should be so lucky if we had him right now in his prime.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 6, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah but with Kobe we would have rings
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 6, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
You can’t predict how things would have gone different. With Kobe, maybe we never have Kidd. Maybe Starbury rubs off on him and negatively impacts his career. Never know
MarShon the Messiah
by J-Kay on Feb 6, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
kittles may not have be trash but Kobe > kittles
by NetsDynasty on Feb 6, 2012 11:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Duh!
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 6, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, keep smoking that stuff
Kobe was not signing here
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 6, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
not much of a choice
just like how Yi didn’t want to sign with the Bucks. In order to be redrafted, Kobe couldn’t play in any pro or NCAA basketball program for a whole year. Can you name a single NBA player that did that without an injury?
We were just emerging from the Coleman-Anderson years...
…and we weren’t drafting another malcontent. It just wasn’t happening. We did alright with Kittles.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 6, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
He's no Kobe, Nash, Stojakovic, or J O'Neal
It stings, especially when the team wanted Kobe.
by J-Nasty on Feb 6, 2012 11:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
O'neal took several years of development and bench warming
before he turned into even a rotation player, and even then, he was never healthy
I never saw this shot before...
We are right at the Knicks front door…and soon we will kick it in !
by M I K E on Feb 6, 2012 10:52 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
that's an awesome shot
Winning is everything...Losing is not an option...
Section 4, Row 12...last season at The Rock...
beautiful picture
has anyone visited the site? is there much to see? i live in manhattan and making the trip is easy, but i don’t really want to go to a sightless construction site.
by Dolphins_Nets on Feb 6, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Walked by it on Saturday night.
Looks incredible. You can see right into the building through the ramp on 6th avenue.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Feb 6, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I used to go to high school in the area
Maybe three blocks away. They could not have picked a better location imo. Can’t wait.
by cprash on Feb 6, 2012 11:44 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Thanks to Kobe, we have a great chance of keeping the picks or Swag
or at the third best scenario, Morrow. The need to play rough with Orlando and not be afraid to put the phone down
by cprash on Feb 6, 2012 11:47 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
mobile app reply fail
sorry guys
by cprash on Feb 6, 2012 11:48 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
For those who've never been:
Just above the shot you’ll find two malls connected by a footbridge. One of the malls, as you can see in the photo, has a 15 story green and brown office building attached to it. The entire mall complex (built in stages by Ratner between 1994-2004) is a dump, nothing to see there but if you have time on your hand, I guess a quick stroll won’t kill you.
If you continue up Flatbush Avenue towards Manhattan and past the mall complex you’ll find the Williamsburgh Bank Building, that’s the tall one with the clock and gold dome at its top. It was an office building (oddly it featured many dentist offices) but was converted to condos (by a company owned in small part by Magic Johnson of all people!) about 5 years ago.
On the other side of that building is the Brooklyn Academy of Music a giant concert halls which often features orchestra/ballet/indie movies. The outside is spartan but the inside is a true gem. Stunningly beautiful although unless there’s a show on, not much going on.
Past that is junkie stores mixed in with new high rise condos and office buildings. In the heart of this stretch of Flatbush Avenue stands Juniors, the single best diner in Brooklyn, if not the entire western world! Just stepping inside is sure to clog an artery or two.
Now, walking away from Flatbush Avenue and to the left of the shot is 5th Avenue. 5th Avenue (along w/7th Avenue) is the commercial strip of Park Slope, Brooklyn’s version of the Upper West Side. Cool mix of restaurants, bars, cafes, boutiques. Way too Yuppie for my tastes but still offers lots to do. You might even bump into Daniel Goldstein there…
If you’ve never been to the area I’d suggest checking out 5th Avenue first. More going on, more businesses, more pedestrian friendly but Flatbush Avenue is Brooklyn’s most famous and historic road. Thanks in part to the arena, it is also seeing a rise in new bars and lounges. Plus, it has Juniors!
Whether on Flatbush or 5th, I hope you enjoy discovering Brooklyn!
Opulence, I has it.
by J-Sal on Feb 6, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
My man!
Thanks for the recommendations!
by Dolphins_Nets on Feb 6, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Junior's cheesecake
if the Nets ever lose in Brooklyn, get a slice after the game. Trust me in that.
by cprash on Feb 6, 2012 2:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
More than just cheesecake!
Whether it be deli sandwiches (Pastrami on Rye for starters) or burgers or soups or full dinners, everything tastes better at Juniors. The place is a Brooklyn institution and well worth it’s rep. It’s also where Ratner had his very first press conference to announce that he was gonna bid on the Nets and bring them to Brooklyn. In fact mixed in with the Brooklyn Dodgers memorablia they even have a mock up Brooklyn Nets jersey (from 2004 when they were thinking about going for a Duke type design) hanging on it’s wall.
(But again, if you’re more into Thai or Indian or Peruvian or whatever, 5th Avenue pretty much has it all, so check that out too. Much better than the chain eateries which surround MSG! )
Opulence, I has it.
can someone post the latest pic from dailybooth.com/barclayscenter?
for some reason my web blocker at work classifies it as a social network and won’t let me go to it
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
good looks
the roof’s almost completely enclosed.
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
They've now started on the third layer of the roof
near the entrance. You can see it in the first picture.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Feb 6, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
when do they start putting in the "halo?"
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
What is the 3rd layer? I thought the white 2nd layer, that covers the grayish panels, is the final layer?
The white layer has been slowing going up for some time, on the front side.
Some People Just Cant Accept
a SUPER STAR wants to be HERE.
People need to let it go and start creating contacts so you can be the FIRST on many great stories ala Stephen A. Smith and Booossard.
“The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!”
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Yess!!
Thats what I keep trying to express to people who say he dont want to come to the NETS … they say it with no facts to base their opinion on , just cause they cant see it so they hate on us ,…. but they used to talk worse about the Clippers … now they love the Clippers so much.
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
a lot of the flare the Clips had to start the season with has worn off
Blake Griffen is useless outside of 15 ft, Jordan still needs a lot of work, makes a lot of rookie mistakes, and Paul gets injured a lot. And the weakest link in their chain is their management. Donald Sterling has as terrible a rep as an owner could have, labled as a cheap racist, and Vinny Del Negro is a terrible coach.
The Clippers are a good-great ball club
Especially with CP3 running the show but besides all of that , how good they are wasnt my point .
I was just pointing out the way they (the media) love the clippers now, when they used to talk about them like dogs.
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
Now the have KMart!
gotta root for them now, right?
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 6, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
Why not
I see a little of our self inside the Clipps even when we where in back to back finals the NY area media wanted to keep reminding us that we dont play in the Garden and our fans dont go to the games and they got movie stars at their games, and how we are the lil brothers( the ugly red headed step child )…. Im sure Clipper fans feel the same way when it comes to the Lakers but they are getting some vindication right now
One of the digs they use on us was calling us “The Clippers east”
but I haven’t that in a while, Hmmm I wonder why?
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
I really hope orlando is stupid enough to hold on to him
After watching the video with alex kennedy he is going to screw them big time…hes going to leave for nothing. Why would we sign and trade for him in the off season?
sidenote. i thought sign and trades were done with..someone fill me in.
by 1stnamelastname on Feb 6, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions
If I remember correctly, it’s extend and trades (a la Melo) that were done, not sign and trades. Even then, I believe they were grandfathered in for the first two years of the CBA so that wont take effect for a couple years.
MarShon the Messiah
no, they are limited to four years
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Just googled it, you’re right. Owners were pushing for it to be eliminated but they dropped that
MarShon the Messiah
got ya
I mixed the two up. Even so isnt orl still at our mercy? smh..they wont be that dumb
by 1stnamelastname on Feb 6, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
No need to sign and trade
No benefit to the player ina sign and trade any longer (no extra years or raises). The only reason to do it is to get a player to a team that cannot fit a max deal under the cap. Meaning – at the end of the season, if Dwight wanted to go to the Lakers, they could sign and trade him there. But a team under the cap (like the Brooklyn Nets) could give him the same deal and not have to do the sign and trade. So, let’s hope that Otis takes the gamble.
by samnetsfan2010 on Feb 6, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Now I am reading not only do we have to get D12 to make DWILL happy but they both want the pieces around them to stay Nets…. If we give up assists to get D12 that is going to be tough
LOL
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by YoungMoney24 on Feb 6, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
I really doubt this
Both would get what they want
1) Their 5th Year
2) Play with each other
3) More money through endorsements
4) Dwight would be the MAN in NY, bigger then Melo or Amare
5) Dwill wont have to deal with NY Media
6) Vets will sign for pennies to play in NY and play with Dwill and Dwight
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The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!
Not if there's enough cap space
If the Nets can somehow figure out how to acquire Howard without Hedo, they’ll be in good shape.
by ZR on Feb 6, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
it'll cost them Brooks and all their picks
but is more likely every day. It’s rare that taking on a terrible contract is part of a deal for a star, just look at MElo and Paul. I’d rather have Brooks though.
Thank God you can always count on Kobe being selfish.
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 6, 2012 11:28 AM EST reply actions
We got Orlando
They either let Howard walk and get eliminated in the 1st round o the playoffs, or trade Howard for okur petro Gaines and throw in a pick or 2 but not houstons or ours, this team can make the 8th seed with brooks and lopez. It’s either the magic get nothing or something for Howard, no team will want Howard if he is not going to resign,and so won’t work with Orlando. We have all the marbles! I hope Billy realizes that Orlando are helpless
by A Owner on Feb 6, 2012 11:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions
not happening
as a rental, Howard still has good value. There are many teams willing to give up more than Okur, Petro, and Gaines for Howard as a rental and it’ll be worth it for them. Do you think that Celtics wouldn’t just give KG away with the rights to Green, one of their rookies, and a few picks, just to get Dwight for a single championship run?
I just wish Dwight would force their hand!!
Demand a trade here to the nets bro, so we can move on! I don’t know how to feel about this article. Dwight needs to pull a Melo!
Until Lopez is back, nothing will happen regardless. All Dwight would do by demanding a trade now is make his own personal situation more complicated and hurting his team a bit more.
MarShon the Messiah
I'm pretty sure the Nets are being EXTRA careful with Lopez just for that reason
It’ll be a disaster if he reinjures himself before the deadline. Just look at the way they’re handling his situation and Brooks’ situation. It’s like they’re holding them in reserve just to be traded instead of trying to win games by getting them back on the court
I dont think so
wasnt there a rumor that ORL gave Dwight until Mar 1 to tell them his intentions.
So if Dwight says today I Want to BE a NET, how does that change his personal situation? That just tells ORL do something before they get NOTHING.
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The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!
That's true too!
At some point Dwight is gonna have to make a decision! He has made it clear to the organization and to the fans of Orlando that his intentions are to go elsewhere! If that elsewhere is the nets as reported by almost every analyst and beat writer, than make it known and demand a trade there! The fans of Orlando are gonna be mad either way! Just suck it up bro and pull a Melo! Not a lebron!
Increases media scrutiny, makes it even more difficult for him to try to be a leader
MarShon the Messiah
I dont think he will be the leader
That would be Dwill’s role.
Dwight would be “The Quotes Man”. The Media would love his quotes. he would be the GOOD COP.
Then Dwill becomes the Bad COP like he is already doing now. Telling his teammates what to do, where to be on the court and taking the Leader Stance.
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The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!
I hope this is true
Then Dwill and D12 could play Kobe in finals and remind him what a ’third option" center can do lol
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
Well done Kobe
Pack his bags for him and buy him his ticket to EWR while you’re at it.
by ZR on Feb 6, 2012 11:31 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I doubt David Stern is going to let Orlando end up empty handed...
The Nets will have to pay for Dwight Howard and if they try to low ball Orlando watch Orlando file tampering charges…It is in the best interests of the NBA that Orlando gets a fair deal if they are forced to trade Howard and the Nets can not afford to take a chance of this matter going to the NBA front office…(See CP3 and the Lakers)
Stern has ZERO CONTROL
In the Dwightmare, he doesn’t own the orlando magic.
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
It's pretty obvious
I don’t know how it’s missed so often.
by ZR on Feb 6, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
exactly stern can't do anything
for ‘basketball reasons’
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Feb 6, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
David Stern can veto any trade he wants too...
Do not under estimate his vast power over anything NBA related…
On paper David Stern works for the NBA owners but in reality the owners serve under Stern and have for almost 30 years now.
Stern has veto power
only if a rule has been broken or it seems that there was an attempt to circumvent the rules. If there was no wrongdoing, then he’s powerless. There have been MANY totally lopsided trades in the NBA’s history.
David Stern has no say
the league doesn’t own the nets or magic
he won’t interfere
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KOBE BRYANT IS/WAS/WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER A BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYER THAN STEPHEN GRAHAM.
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Feb 6, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
everyone keeps talking about the NBA blocking trades
the NBA blocked the Paul trade as owner of the Hornets, not as the league. It’s basically the same thing that happened when Otis approved the 3-team trade with us and Portland and Magic ownership shot it down.
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Stern can't do a thing
He owned the hornets he doesn’t own Orl.
http://worldaroundsports.wordpress.com/
I think both, Otis and BK, know what is the deal (approximately).
As it was reported before when D12 told his teammates that he’s traded and that Otis accepted the deal with only the Mgmt to nix it, we understand that they both know the aprox. deal.
It’s just a matter of having D12 for AS Game, and if a wild chance of LA jacking up the price and somehow D12 changes his mind.
But if it’s true that LA is not an option, it is NETS (just a matter of when – package is known per se).
David Stern has zero say here
The only reason all the CP3 issues came up is because the NBA technically owns the Hornets.
It would behoove Stern to let Howard go to the Nets for a worse offer. Howard in a major market, starting a cross-town rivalry with the Knicks is great for basketball.
by ZR on Feb 6, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
One of the reasons that the Knicks probably gave into Denver at the last moment last year...
was Denver was whispering that they may file tampering charges against them if the Knicks tried to low ball them. Tampering charges are a very serious affair and the Nets would not want to have Orlando offically file them if the Nets piss them off with an “unfair” offer.
In other words if Orlando reopens trade talks with the Nets and the Nets play hardball, Orlando will probably threaten to file tampering charges…Nets don’t want to go there.
Where are you getting that from? That's major speculation that's unsubstantiated
The Knicks gave in because Dolan is one of the worst owners in sports and was so hell-bent on getting another superstar that he’d give up tons to get there. Tampering had next to nothing to do with that.
You’re stretching here MIKE.
by ZR on Feb 6, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
There was several reports last year of Denver beong very upset with the Knicks...
right from the beginning. They felt that Knicks ownership had contact with Carmelo before permission was granted. Reports also said that Orlando were upset with the Nets for the very same reason. Tampering charges if filed is very serious business and if proven true you can kiss your Dwight Howard goodbye and probably our first round draft pick. If Denver had filed charges against the Knicks the Knicks would of been in very hot water especially if they were guilty.
They probably didn't file charges because the case was not very good and lacked credibility
If Orlando wanted to file tampering charges, they would’ve already. This is the least of my concerns in the future.
by ZR on Feb 6, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe you are right...
but hinting to file tampering charges is a way of telling teams that want your star player that option is always there to use if you try to get cute with them down the road…I doubt it would ever go that far because David Stern would step in and tell both sides to get a fair deal done for the sake of everybody involved.
There is a critical difference
There was another, very public bidder for Melo. The Nuggets could legitimately prove that the Knicks were low balling them, because Melo’s trade value was clearly established by what the Nets were willing to give up.
LA hasn’t shown to be willing to deal Bynum+Gasol, so it’s debatable if even a Nets low-ball offer of say Lopez+Okur+2 firsts isn’t still the best offer out there. Is it fair value for Howard? No. However what package out there is so much better? They can’t accuse the nets of low-balling them if the Nets have made the best offer for Howard.
Could DeVos be so stubborn that he thinks he can block the Nets from signing Howard in the offseason by filing tampering charges? I suppose he could be. I honestly think that’s where Dallas comes in to play. Howard needs to make it clear that he’s gone if he’s not traded. “Block me from signing with the Nets, fine I’ll sign in Dallas & you get nothing.”
Guys. How do the nets make a trade, that includes Hedo, work? Lopez, Marshon, Okur is barely enough (salary-wise) for Dwight.
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multiple teams
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Feb 6, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
if that Philly rumor is true
that’s a pretty good return for Orlando
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not sure what the potatoes were
but the meat was Lopez and Iggy going to Orlando with us getting Dwight. Not sure what Philly would receive.
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Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
something like this seems halfway decent
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6phwwcg
Philly gets a 1st
and Orlando gets a 1st
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KOBE BRYANT IS/WAS/WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER A BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYER THAN STEPHEN GRAHAM.
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Feb 6, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Why would Philly do that?
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Feb 6, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
i can see it...
…would require a couple picks going Philly’s way. They get a backup for Jrue in Nelson. They can move Evan Turner to the starting SF spot. They’ll have nice depth with Morrow and Lou Williams. If they want, we can even give them Petro.
Would think Philly would want more talent or at least a viable SF
But their inclusion of Iggy makes sense. They refuse to pay the luxury tax, and it sounds like they’re committed to resigning Hawes this offseason (ad they believe it will be expensive). There’s also a chance that they could replace Iggy at a cheaper cost in free agency with a guy like Wallace.
rumors on twitter i belive
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KOBE BRYANT IS/WAS/WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER A BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYER THAN STEPHEN GRAHAM.
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Feb 6, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was mentioned on here
but now I can’t find it
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
That would be awesome! We'd be getting rid of Petro!
I think I would be happier about that then us getting Dwight!
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You also add a bunch of picks there obviously ....
Just a thought …. I’m sure there will be other teams involved, but that was an example of how it would work as a last resort.
And that is way better than nothing, obviously.
Gerald Wallace will be a free agent this summer
I wonder if we will somehow be able to bring him aboard! If we will have the cap space and all.
so will batum - RFA
a lot of quality guys will be out there
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by YoungMoney24 on Feb 6, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
If you got Turk back, your SF is set for a few years.
I do not thing that Turk is bad though, especially with D12-D-Will setup.
He can drive to the basket, shoot the three, and he’s tough for a european player.
he's like 6-10
he might be able to play the stretch 4 against certain teams
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by YoungMoney24 on Feb 6, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, forgot to mention that he's a tough matchup for many 3's out there.
You can also play him stretch 4 like you said with small run and gun lineup.
If the Nets got Turk back and somehow kept Okur
this would be the all-Turkey team.
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I'm not a real fan of Turk
I think Wallace and Wilson chandler are younger and better options at the SF
chandler would be great imo
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by YoungMoney24 on Feb 6, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yea I know :(
I’m just hoping Bk could pull a rabbit out of that and make the deal where someone else takes hedo’s contract not us, which would put us in the running for a Wallace or a chandler who are both unrestricted free agents this summer.
is it possible to
take back hedo and keep hump at the same time?
Gerald Wallace was going to the Magic in the original offer
Go back and read some of the stories.
by ZR on Feb 6, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yea I know
He has already told Portland that he is not resigning with them
no he didn't
He said what D-Will said, and it’s that he’s going to go into FA 1st and explore his options, which would include re-signing. The way you stated it, seems like he told them he’s leaving
I could see Portland maybe facilitating a trade once again
and Crash would be going to Orlando, not to the Nets.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Feb 6, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
This starting five would be sick
Dwill
Brooks
Wallace
Hump
D12
Imagine that team opening Brooklyn!!!!
I would go crazy!!!!
Would be an incredible defensive team...and seriously athletic
More than enough firepower to go around as well.
by ZR on Feb 6, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
The funny thing is
if it is true the ORL gave Dwight a Mar 1 deadline and he says TRADE ME TO NETS,
ORL is screwed. SMH!!!!
The last thing they want is for Dwight or HIS “PEOPLE” to say it is NETS or Bust.
SMH!!!!
ORL would have NO LEVERAGE.
Expiring and Picks are all that ORL would get at that point. NO Turk. No Lopez. NO Brooks.
That would be an EPIC FAIL!!!
All this stuff is leading to that. Dwight only has to tell his people to start RUMOR. I ONLY WANT NETS!!!!!
GAME OVER!!!!!
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if dwight was going to resign he would have done so already
that franchise is seriously delusional
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by YoungMoney24 on Feb 6, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
Look how quickly KLove signed his contract… he wanted to stay. DH12 does not. Otis needs to wake up.
not really on otis
more on ownership
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by YoungMoney24 on Feb 6, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
This
Love took an opt out after 3 years so he could hit unrestricted free agency sooner. He’s not fully committed to the Wolves yet.
It wasn't a max deal, not even that close
which is why there was negotiations. They never offered Love a full 5yr, max money deal
I know it's easy to talk from our computers saying how delusional they are, but it might not be really the case.
Orlando is playing smart. They know they have the deal with Nets, and B-Lo helped the case.
Also, they are keeping D12 for the AS Game (he’s still there regardless of his request).
Nets pick is getting better, and they will still have a punchers chance to make the playoffs after the deadline, even if D12 is traded.
Why do we see the delusional ??? This thing he might sign, that is garbage IMO.
they still have their hopes on him
resigning which is crazy.
what they should be doing is shopping him like crazy and trying to get the most for him like nuggets with melo.
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by YoungMoney24 on Feb 6, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
I think they know better than what we are lead to believe.
The owner already approved that he’s to be traded if he’s not signing.
Everybody and their mother knows that he’s not signing. Not because he doesn’t like ORL, but because it makes more sense (i.e. D-Will). Furthermore, he already requested a trade, and both, Otis and D12, confirmed that nothing has changed.
So this talk that they are delusional is garbage IMO; I think they are just trying to maximize the benefits whether through the pieces that they get or the timing of it.
No he wouldnt
Remember he would make more money by NOT RESIGNING like what Dwill will do with us.
So you cant even look at that. He was going to opt out even if he wanted to stay with ORL.
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meaning before the new cba
he could have signed like ’melo and got his money
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by YoungMoney24 on Feb 6, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
it would have been fo less money and less years
since Melo only had that 1 option year left on his deal, Dwight had 1 yr + the option year
I'm pretty sure they've established its Nets or bust
and at this very moment in time, the Magic do not have any leverage at all. He’ll be a Net by the deadline, but it’s very bad business if the Nets lowball the Magic by not including guys like Lopez. Nets will probably get Hedo and Duhon back, and there is a chance imo they can keep MarShon out.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Feb 6, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Dwight
Turns us into a storied franchise
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
if we win a title.
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by YoungMoney24 on Feb 6, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
Only thing the Knicks would have over us at this point is THE PAST.
Dwight == GAME OVER for Knicks especially if they need players like Lin to win games. LOL!!!!!
MECCA WHAT!!!!!!
Dwight >>>>>>>> Amare and Melo put together.
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The nets since 2000 seemed to have better management than the knicks and make smarter decesions. We outsmated them again. I can’t see melo and amare being title contenders but williams and howard
They've also had a much better record
But that will never be enumerated on an ESPN telecast. Never.
by ZR on Feb 6, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
We can still trade lopez now for Howard. We don’t have to wait, do we? When we traded Kidd, Harris didn’t play for a week and Lopez is like 2 weeks away. So a trade can still happen anytime, right?
Yea i believe so
It can n it probably will.
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I don’t get why they care so much about the all-star game and Howard. The fans know he’s leaving anyway, and I don’t think it’s embarrassing. I wouldn’t care if the nets were in the same position as the magic and traded him. And there still going to sell tickets
Agreed
The reality is if he isnt traded by AllStar game all the talk that weekend will be Howard to the NETS.
That is the bottom line. That will not change.
So this is a NO WIN situation for ORL.
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They won't trade for Lopez
Until he’s back & proves he’s recovered. Foot injuries in big men are dangerous. My guess is Lopez returns on the 19th. That’s 3 games to prove his health before the allstar break, including a home game against Orlando. Then rumors really start to heat up.
Not Lopez's kind of foot injury
Injuries to the body’s centers of gravity, like the lower back, neck, knees, hips, and ankles are serious and can change if and how a person can walk. But Lopez’ injury is on the outside of the foot, considered the body’s periphery. That whole last metatarsal can be removed and Lopez would still return to top form
We're about to see
how true all of these rumors really are. If Dwight is reallt adamant about playing with the Nets, he’ll make it known to the orlando front office and something will come of it.
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should be done within this month………. wow, thinking about all the hardships this team… the fans have gone through… its really kinda surreal.
he is adamant about playing with the Nets
it’s pretty obvious to this point. If not for the all-star game being in Orlando, and if not for Brook’s injury, I’m sure he’d be in a Nets uniform at this point in time.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Feb 6, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
My challenge to this board:
What are your most realistic trade machine trades, assuming this is
a) either a 3 way deal with Orlando getting another near All-Star player
b) straight up deal with Magic
D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)
by corky_romano4life on Feb 6, 2012 12:23 PM EST reply actions
A
we can keep more own players over here
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 6, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Dwightmare continues.....................
J-Kidd to D-Will
via Alex Kennedy
I’ve been told by people in Dwight’s life that he will be on the Nets, it’s just a matter of how and when."
http://netsarescorching.com/2012/02/05/nastv-alex-kennedy-i-do-think-dwight-ends-up-on-the-nets/
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by "NetsNation" on Feb 6, 2012 12:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Johan Petro, C 3 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 PTS | -3
Blocked an Amare Stoudemire dunk attempt, then promptly threw a pass directly into Carmelo Anthony’s hands. The Johan Petro experience!
Grade F
Lol your starting Center for Todays game
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 6, 2012 12:36 PM EST reply actions
Why is he starting today ?
Is Shelden hurt or something ?
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by strange-brew on Feb 6, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Sick. I love the part at the end.
"I’ve read those reports that say Dwight’s been changing his mind every day, and that he’s constantly waffling, but I honestly haven’t seen it. It seems like Dwight knows what he’s doing. "As far as right now, I think (Dwight’s) been pretty consistent." "It’s not like Dwight’s sitting here not knowing what he’s going to do. He knows that he doesn’t want to be in Orlando." "They’re saying he wants to be on the Nets, he wants to put on a Nets uniform."
do you think Alex Kennedy is credible? i think he is idk
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by "NetsNation" on Feb 6, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Dont forget
Stephen A. Smith and Boossard also are now saying that he wants the NETS.
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It's less of who is or who isn't credible, more that many many reporters have pretty much proclaimed the Nets as the outright favorite
That is what makes me confident at the end of the day.
by ZR on Feb 6, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
true. each day that goes by i get a little more optimistic
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by "NetsNation" on Feb 6, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Arenas will have open work out.
Free agent guard Gilbert Arenas has scheduled a workout in Los Angeles for later this week, according to league sources, but the Lakers haven’t decided whether they will attend it.
Read more: http://www.sgvtribune.com/sports/ci_19901326#ixzz1lcmrNTQO
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Jared Rudolph is horrible
BUT, everyone close to the Magic seems to think this guy has by far the closest relationship w/ Dwight and that they all trust his info regarding this situation.
This is a good sign
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
RIP
“The brother of New York Knicks star Amare Stoudemire died in a car accident early Monday morning in Florida, a team spokesman confirmed to ESPNNewYork.com.”
RIP
Really sad…it’s crazy…
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
Life is too short! Try to live it to the fullest!!!
J-Kidd to D-Will
Wow. That has to be devastating.
Amare must be seriously hurting.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 6, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I think we all get lost in the emotion of sports ....
but it really is just a game. Tragedies like these are a dreadful reminder.
No they wont
they have Jeremy “Dynasty” Lin
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Just looked up the AllStar Jerseys
The only difference the jerseys will have is a small TEAM logo the back of the jersey.
Really!!!
This what they are worried about.
I think it would be a mistake to wait until after the ASG. It would be a Media Nightmare. All questions to Dwight and Management will be about trading him.
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Hopeful life after D12 deal
Starting Lineup
pg- Deron
sg- Bogans
sf- Marswag
pf- Hump
c- Dwight howard
Bench
Who cares look at our staring 5!
can we all have a dream once in a while?
ORL is screwed
If these rumors are true, ORL has NO LEVERAGE. NONE. NADA.
They can force a trade to a RENTING team, but they most likely wont get much in return. With us they get expiring and a lot of picks. LA wont take the chance of sending Bynum if they have no assurance that Dwight re-signs. They can trade him to Dallas for expiring contracts but then they cant get Dwill.
Dwight has said he would listen to any organization if he becomes a FA. Even if he decides not to sign with us during the off season, ORL it is the same results for ORL.
THEY GET NADA for DWIGHT!!!!!
So whatever we want to give ORL is what we will give them.
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yep
no reason to give up alot of assets. Plus we can bring in another team in the trade. Or just sign him outright in the beginning. Orlando is foolish.
by 1stnamelastname on Feb 6, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
So all we need to do is outbid Dallas
Hopefully Hump doesn’t object to going to Orlando for 2 months.
Okur, Humphries, J-Will, Morrow, Bogans, James, and three first rounders, and $3 million
for Howard and Turkoglu.
Let’s play hardball.
JJ for 3!
Hump scenario is very interesting. I think he would be loyal to the Nets if they promised him something.
How do you guys see that go?
I think he cares about money if could get them in ORL, but I think he would even give home-team discount to Nets if they offered him some type of solution.
by d2d on Feb 6, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
if he's willing to take the MLE he could come back
but to make money work to take TUrk we’d need to send him over
JJ for 3!
Not true
We have enough outgoing salary to take back D12 & Turk without including Hump.
Hump isnt a foul
He goes to ORL will be the only rebounder. His numbers would be inflated. which means a nice contract.
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Why limit yourself to under the cap teams
If he vetoes a trade & stays in NJ, the Nets can theoretically S&T him to a team without enough cap room to make him a big offer. That opens up more potential bidders. If he’s traded to Orlando, he’s limited to a big pay day from a handful of teams that are under the cap.
I doubt Orlando has much interest in Morrow
They are already loaded with shooters, and besides, who is the better fit next to Dwight? Hump or Morrow?
Dwight Howard will be a net its simple. IDK why ppl denying it
by NetsDynasty on Feb 6, 2012 1:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
because they get a lot of site hits, column readers, and twitter followers
when they make up stupid, completely false info about him going to another team, like the Clippers, Bulls, or Celtics
doubt it
BK could’ve pulled the trigger on a Gerald Wallace deal last season, but said he was not going to make any more trades after D-Will and Murphy. If he only tried, the Nets could’ve offered a better package for Wallace
Guys
We aren’t going to trade for Dwight Howard for anything less than Lopez-Okur-filler-Brooks or our pick + probably a couple more. It’s not going to happen. The Magic would be better off letting Howard go than taking expirings and picks. If they don’t give a decent offer for Dwight, King’s reputation goes into the toilet. There was a lot of league backlash from the Gasol trade and I think that honestly reared it’s head when the Lakers tried to trade for Chris Paul.
Really
I think you will be wrong.
I think the most BKing will give up is the original deal less a few draft picks. He could even go Expiring and multiple draft picks. I think people dont realize where ORL is right now. There is no way ORL lets him walk for nothing.
The Magic would be better off letting Howard go than taking expirings and picks.
You are drinking the ORL FAN coolaid. PICKS >>>>>>> NOTHING.
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Lopez is better than any other single player that any other team will offer
maybe even Bynum too, but that doesn’t matter b/c the Nets have other assets to throw in too. How is letting Howard go better than taking Lopez and picks back?
It isn't, that's why I said as a minimum Lopez + others will have to go
But some have said that we should keep Lopez and Brooks and dump our trash on Orlando with some picks. One person suggested Okur, Petro, Gaines, and some picks but not our 2012 pick or the Rockets pick. Why the hell would Orlando take that deal? We’re not going to get away without dealing Lopez plus either our pick or Brooks. Outside of our 2012 pick MAYBE, because if we keep afloat and get Howard and keep Lopez and Brooks there’s a real good shot we get into the playoffs, if we manage to keep the entire team and deal spare parts for Howard then the picks will be meaningless because they’ll be in purchase-range. I’m almost 100% certain Orlando could do better than that for a rental Dwight.
Props to Netsdaily for poking a huge hole in the NBC article
It’s about time some writers get called on their credibility issues
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