Gutting our roster
by MZ357 on Feb 4, 2012 5:31 AM EST
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After seeing Ammo score 42 points, I realized just how valuable a player who can hit an open three really is. Even if Morrow is one dimensional, he can contribute in a great way if he's paired with a great player who can get him in his sweet spot, unguarded. There's one player who benefits the most from that.
The reason he can manage to score so much, as you all know, is because he's with Dwight. If he's on any other team, he may very well not be able to produce as much. We know this, the Magic knows this. They also know that if Dwight leaves, Anderson won't be as good. So where can the Magic get maximum value from their second best player, who can produce only when paired with a dominating big man who can guard and score effectively on the paint? Answer? The team that has Dwight Howard (Andrew Bynum? smh). Which means that unless the Magic grab a center similar to Howard (they won't), they're better off trading Anderson for value. And like someone once pointed out, Billiy King shouldn't be an *ss and leave the Magic with nothing. My question is this:
Is it worth gutting our roster (giving up morrow, hump, lopez, brooks, and 4 picks) for Anderson, Turk and Howard?
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No way!
Ryan Anderson is a restricted FA this summer!
The way he is been playing this season there will be some GM idiot who will offer him a near max contract and if we’re to keep him we have to match that, which we won’t, so we’ve just thrown away our assets for nothing.
Besides, if we somehow can keep Brooks and Morrow (the best 2 contracts we have regarding talent for money) while getting mr. Supaman it’d be just stupid to include them so that we can get that RFA who’s bound to make a ton of money next season.
We should trade Orlando
Lopez, Brooks, 3 first round picks
Then we get back
Howard and Turk
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The salaries won't work
with Netsfan proposal. You have to include hump and Memo to match salaries.
People keep talking about a trade involving hump
it wont happen. There is NO WAY hump will agree to any trade. he is hated outside NJ
He doesn't have a choice.
If he is traded during this season, he has to go. Nets hold his player rights, which include a right to trade. I don’t believe K-Hump has a no-trade clause. B-K would never have agreed to something as restrictive as a no-trade clause for a one-year contract.
T O' NY
no brooks
I think the Nets can still get Howard in a deal without trading Brooks.
Example – Lopez, Gerald Wallace(Trade three first rounders to PTO), DJ Augustine(trade Morrow/Farmar and a second rounder) for D12 and Turk
i'll be the odd one out here
i’d do it. ryan anderson doesn’t do that much for me, but he is a great compliment to howard.
but here’s the thing: we’re not trading all this for anderson. we’re trading it for anderson and DWIGHT HOWARD. if we went out and signed, say, ray allen for a one year full MLE for his last hurrah, a lineup of dwill/ray/turk/anderson/howard could do some real damage. and we could get some bench players for the vets min in free agency.
i would absolutely do this trade.
Forget it, we're keeping Morrow
DWill loves playing with Morrow. Dwight would like to play with Morrow. There’s a reason there somewhere.
I would’ve welcomed a trade when he was in his early shooting slump but now I’ll always remind myself of what mid-season form Morrow looks like.
Also, we don’t have to copy exactly what Orlando has tried to do with pairing Howard with a stretch 4 like Anderson and earlier, Rashard Lewis. I’d rather re-sign Hump, who has developed a reliable short to mid-range jumper to keep defenses honest to go with his hustle and rebounding. That way, Dwight won’t just be playing with a great PG, he’ll also have a frontcourt partner who’ll be battling with him instead of being alone inside while that guy has it easy way out in the perimeter.
You need a strech 4 with howard
so as not to clog the paint. Plus Anderson can rebound.
Hump and Howard
will be the comparable to Unseld and Hayes
I still say just wait for D12 to come to us as FA
I have a feeling him, DWill, and BK already have an understanding the he will be a Net next season. If that is indeed the case, we can really low ball the Magic. If they don’t like what we’re offering, let Dwight be traded to another team. He won’t sign an extension with any team but the Nets. We must not gut our team!
by NetsFanInVA on Feb 4, 2012 9:20 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
It's not that simple
What persistent reports say is that Howard wants to be traded to the Nets as his first preference, not just sign in the offseason.
While right now he’s warning other teams not to take him as a rental, supposedly because he wants to be a Net with DWill, that’s with regard to a trade. For teams also on his list like LA and Dallas, things could still change if he’s traded to them and he could just decide to stick around if they massage his ego, make him all sorts of promises to get this or that player eventually (probably even DWill), and remind him he can pocket an extra 30 million.
In short, while we’re on top of Howard’s trade wish list now, if he’s traded to another team also on his list, there is a real risk we could miss out on Dwight in the offseason.
Getting Howard in the offseason is without doubt the most ideal situation in an idealized Nets-friendly world, but the practical reality is that he and his agent want a trade and Orlando will want to get something or a lot out of him. That is what will most likely happen in March, whether it’s with the Nets or not. So it better be us.
the knicks gave half their roster to get Melo
look at them now
Bottom line is
2 stars cannot make a team. It’s stars and a great supporting cast that let a team win it all. A good bench is the biggest key to winning in the NBA Finals. That’s why Chicago and Oklahoma City are both better teams than Miami.
I don’t care how good Dwight Howard and Deron Williams are. Just them two gets us nowhere and i would rather have Lopez and Brooks in that case.
The real bottom line is that
after we get Howard with DWill, we’ll still have Hump and Morrow plus a usable Hedo. And that’s just for the rest of the season. That’s much better than no Howard and probably no DWill and just Lopez and Brooks.
30 mil, that is why he wants the trade instead of free agency
ppl need to get that through their head.
No
That’s ridiculous. I still firmly believe that we should just wait for him to become a free agent. I don’t want to do Orlando a favor and give up our assets for him. I’ll take my chances on landing him in July
Nothing ridiculous about that
Only a foolish GM would take that risk when he’s going to be traded in March
It's March
Otis: Well, you’re going to Dallas. Or is it LA. Check with my secretary.
Dwight: But I want to be traded to the Nets.
Otis: They don’t want to. Said they’d rather wait in July.
Dwight: Really?
Otis: Yep, some fans at Nets Daily convinced Billy King to wait.
Dwight: But my 30 million dollars! Dan won’t be happy either.
Otis: Whatever, Dwighty.
Dwight: Just wow, I love the Nets. I really love the Nets.
Dwight’s at a point in his career when he wants to win more than anything. He should know that DEEP teams win not teams with a couple stars. It doesn’t make any sense for him to want the Nets to give up their depth for him because we still won’t be great even after the trade.
For Dwight it makes more sense to sign with the Nets as a free agent.
Deron
Brooks
Draft
Trade Lopez for PF
Dwight
again $30m more on trade
howard+turkoglu+dwill then sign kg&allen. i think that’s the best starting 5 in the NBA. dont tell me allen& kg is old, allen is having a career year while kg is consistently putting up good numbers. or if it is howard+anderson+dwill, sign wilson chandler as sf and retain morrow as SG.
by letsgolal on Feb 4, 2012 11:07 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
why would KG and Allen sign for peanuts with us?
they already won a championship.. this is probably thier last chance at a decent contract, if they were going to sign for peanuts they would just resign with the Celtics who could use the rest of the money to bolster thier team.
one of them could sign for mid lvl exception. the other can take a pay cut. no team will offer more than $8m for each of them
by letsgolal on Feb 4, 2012 1:18 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
sorry i swear i hit the reply button
don’t know why its not working for me
You do what it takes to pair Dwight with Deron.
You worry about the rest of the roster later. Dwight Howard caliber big men do not grow on trees.
I can not believe the poll results. Put the homerism aside guys.
I think gutting our roster would be terrible
Ya know what, the knicks are a perfect example of a team that gutted there team for allstars and they still suck.
by Marquise Johnson on Feb 5, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions
Well Dwight and Deron are better than Amare and Melo
Also, the Knicks were playing .500 ball or better when they gutted their team, this team isn’t that good, so how much are you really “gutting” it?
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