Hollinger: "Quality" SF Could Bring "Linsanity"-Like Success to Nets
by Net Income on Feb 18, 2012 8:27 AM EST
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PrintIn analyzing Linsanity for ESPN Insider, John Hollinger writes that the Knicks recent success is a result of New York replacing bad players at their worst position, their low performing point guards, with a "quality replacement": Jeremy Lin in place of Toney Douglas, Mike Bibby and Iman Shumpert.
And he offers if the Nets did that at small forward, their fortunes might improve dramatically as well. That's because no team in the NBA is as bad (or as he writes BAD, for Below Average Dependency) at any position as the Nets are at small forward. They're significantly worse at SF than the Knicks were at PG before the "arrival" of Lin, for example.
"For the likes of Minnesota (also small forward), New Jersey, the Lakers (point guard) and Orlando (point guard), their heavy use of under-performing players comes with the opportunity for a micro-version of Linsanity that can catapult them significantly forward," he concludes.
- NBA -- Secret to Jeremy Lin's success with New York Knicks - John Hollinger - ESPN Insider
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It's amazing we have underperfomred at the SF position
We have been BAD at center as well. The return of Brook at center and the addition of a legitimate SF will take us out of the unibrow sweepstakes – no thanks. I’m all in. Dwight as FA
The Nets have been awful at SF since they traded RJ.
But this year has been the worst. Ghastly.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Why I want the Nets to sign Dwight as a free agent
Hello Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
by muwu on Feb 18, 2012 8:31 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
lets trade the nets team for Kentucky
I’ll even take Cal
We are thinking alike. MKG is what this team needs.
The Lakers need Farmar back but they have nothing to offer in return.
If you're planning to sign Dwight, you need to dump his salary anyway
They hold their and Dallas’ first rounder, I’d do it for that
They could actually send back Ebanks. They just sent him to the Dleague. Havent seen him play at all and he is an expiring.
How bout Farmar and Petro or S. Williams
For D. Fisher, T. Murphy and Jason Kapono. We could then buyout Fisher as long as he doesn’t agree to take the player option.
you serious? Troy Murphy?
I’m sure he is dying to come back to NJ.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
farmar is playing way better then any of those guys, he has been a bright spot on this team for sure.
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 18, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
If they have an expiring make them take S. Williams or Petro
We need to find a way to rid ourselves of Farmer, Petro and Williams they are all dead weight contracts
In an ideal world, yes
But I doubt it happens that way.
by ZR on Feb 18, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Sf is the most important position in the new NBA. You can get by without a real center but you need good play from the other positions.
6’6-6’10 dudes run the league right now.
BTW Outlaw hasnt gotten off the Kings bench in 7 games now. Outlaw may have been the worst Fa signing in the history of the Nba. A player that just fell apart once he got a big contract and it wasnt due to injury.
He played against the Knicks
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Feb 18, 2012 8:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Evidence to the contrary
The champ Mavs had 7-footers Nowitzki and Chandler.
Kobe’s Lakers had Bynum and Gasol.
SFs like LBJ and Durant are great but haven’t won anything yet.
That’s why the team that gets Dwight with another star (hmm) and other pieces will have a good chance at winning it all.
point guards and centers dominate the league
That is why the nets feel like they are instant contenders with a Dwight Howard addition( besides the fact that he is Dwight Howard)
by i says on Feb 18, 2012 9:29 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
If Dwight truly wants to be a Net and win a ring, I hope he understands the importance of comig as a free agent...
If we tarde away brooks and assets, then we are still not good enough to compete. However, if he comes and plays with the players we have (that’s including a healthy lopez), along with the addition of a Barnes or MKG, we are contending next year…
tough call. If ORL knows the importance of not having egg their faces by getting the most they can
then they trade him at deadline. They have the option of holding on and hoping the best; they could still trade him in off-season but the package would be much, much less.
This is true, but who is our real competition if Orlando pushes for the trade?
The lakers would have to part with Bynum and Gasol. And given Bynum’s health issues and Gasol’s declining because of age, the Nets can low ball a package deal. And then there is the fact that dwight has to agree to sign an extension with the team. So he has a lot of say.
So even if the orlando forces the trade, the nets have to play hard ball and hold on to Marshon and our pick this year.
I don't know how much leverage Orlando has
Since Dwight is opting out whether he likes the team or not. The additional money via bird rights is really the only thing they have. And according to some, it’s not supposed to be all that much anyway.
In other situations, the team had a lot of leverage because like Melo, they didn’t have the space to sign him in the offseason. With the Nets, that’s not the case, they don’t NEED to acquire him in a trade
by muwu on Feb 18, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly!
And even if the trade had to happen, low ball the hell out of orlando. Lopez, Houston’s pick, and our next year first round pick.
Can only lowball though if the Nets know the competing offers are gone
If you’re the only trade partner, then you can start playing hardball
Houston's pick would be something like 19 right now, don't think he falls that far
though there are legitimate concerns with him
When the ncaa tourney comes up, there are going to be some players that are going to rise above him...
I do not think he has declined as much as his game is showing right now. But GM’s may get scared off. Especially if some other prosects turn it up a notch in the tourney.
This should make total sense to anyone
Deron and Dwight don’t need to add other guys like Stephen Jackson or whatever if he comes via free agency. If Dwight is willing to sacrifice money in order to have a good team on the floor, free agency is the way to go.
The Nets are in a unique position of being able to sign Dwight while also getting a top 5 pick and signing a max contract-ish guy in brook lopez with bird rights. Does that ever happen? This is a unique situation they should be taking advantage of!
similar situation...
to Boston where they traded some contracts, the #5 pick (Jeff Green) for Ray Allen. Then of course, made the big addition of KG.
If Howard reaches free agency, I can see the Nets (as a team in the ultimate win-now mode) trading the pick along with some contracts for an established player.
If the Nets can clear their books for 2012-2013…they would have Deron, Howard, (SF from trading pick), Brooks, and the Lopez cap hold. Then go over the cap to sign Lopez. This is fantasy land, but that team would locked and loaded to be championship contenders.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
If the Nets do manage to do all of what I say, ultimately, the Lopez injury is a blessing
It’s like Durant and Westbrook and Harden. Do they assemble that talent without continually sucking even after getting elite talent?
This is such a huge opportunity. This is like Robinson getting injured which got the Spurs Duncan
One major difference with San Antonio is the coach
They had Pops, a great coach.
by Mookie Blaylock on Feb 18, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Hope that Fegan knows this more than anyone
I believe he does, given his history with Billy King.
by ZR on Feb 18, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
I really don't think he's making it to FA, but of he does, you're all thinking way too small.
We could use the package that wed trade for Dwight to get an all-star PF or SF, then resign deron and sign Dwight. That makes the most sense to me
Most of you know that I sincerely believe that Orlando won’t trade Dwight, and will instead lose him in free agency. This is obviously the greatest thing ever for the Nets.
On a thread yesterday, I said the Nets will look to take Barnes (I don’t think they go MKG) if they have any pick other than the top pick. It makes the most sense for them. Adding extra scoring on the wing to complement Brooks and the Nets will attempt to keep Damian James and DeShawn as defensive stoppers.
Starting lineup of DWill, Brooks, Barnes, Lopez and Dwight with Morrow as sixth man is potentially the most potent offense in the league. MKG arguably would add defensively but I think they go with maturity and All-Star potential in Barnes.
I'm a defense all the way guy
Even though Barnes is the better scorer, i’d rather go the scottie pippen route with MKG and trust that Deron, Marshon, and Dwight will take care of the offense. You can never be a good enough defensive team
by muwu on Feb 18, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and trust that with his work ethic MKG's offensive game will improve
One of Barnes major weaknesses is athleticism, that won’t improve.
This team could have been coached up
Hump looked good defending the basket against the Pacers. There needs to be a big man that is designated the job.
Brooks is a rookie with bad habbits, the kids measurables where of the charts and he does use them. I beg Avery to teach the kid to move without the ball and to make his move quick instead of setting it up slow.
by Zartan on Feb 18, 2012 11:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
MKG or Barnes
Don’t think we could lose either way, but I like MKG because of his defensive ability. The future of the league means you need to defend the like of LeBron and Durant. MKG will be a good defender, having him focus on one of those guys in a playoff series would take some heat off of Howard and DWill.
by gsloots on Feb 18, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You can't go wrong with Barnes, but MKG brings an aggression to the game that can really help the nets a lot...
Barnes is a better scorer. But with the emergence of Marshon, MKG’s energy can take this team to an incredible level. Not only on the defensive end, also offensively. he attacks the rim with power, runs the floor great, and has a non stop motor.
by aug93 on Feb 18, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
first thing I thought of after reading that thread about scouting for maturity was them going after barnes, with the nets luck davis will be gone, im sure we will get a pick somewhere between 3-6, if we do heres hoping they take harrison
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 18, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
Given the school, Brandan Wright might be a more apt comparison
I’d go for Thomas Robinson too, a better perimeter defender for a big man. Could definitely go well beside Brook because of that and his rebounding prowess
Lol, Ed Davis went to north carolina also
by polobear on Feb 18, 2012 12:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
not sold on either
Hoping Perry Jones can be a Lamar Odom type, but I need to see more
I definitely agree with everyone regarding defense over offense, especially because assuming the Nets get Dwight in Free Agency they will have Brook at PF. The topic of them playing together is for another day (I believe is Duncan-Robinson esque).
But I think Barnes will test out much more athletically than many believe. Remember a defensive presence like Dwight would take away the pressure on the perimeter defenders and I think Brook is much better defensively than he is given credit for (his career he has been the main option on offense with no perimeter or paint defense surrounding him). And Marshon Brooks will develop into a very good defensive presence at the 2 guard in another year or two. His length will cause problems.
Also that is a really big team – 6’3", 6’5", 6’8", 7’, 7’. That alone creates issues for opposing offenses, especially when you consider our shortest guy is built like a truck and our SG has the wingspan of a center.
You still need at least one perimeter defender..
Tim Duncan was great, but he had Bruce Bowen. Gasol and Bynum are nice. But Artest put them over the top, and Kobe is elite. Garnett is a solid, but Rondo and Pierce are lock down too.
We need Dwight because you need elite interior D to help rebound and help defend. You also need a guy to stop Derrick Rose and Dwyane Wade on the perimeter. You need both.
Barnes could do both...if the Nets are going with maturity, Barnes over MKG
Barnes athleticism and work ethic lead me to believe he can play well on both ends. Same goes for MarShon, we see him as a scorer now but he used to be Providence’s defensive stopper early in his college career.
Williams/Brooks/Barnes/Lopez/Howard – that is an incredible roster. If the Nets can find a cheap solution of someone who can create their own shot off the bench to play with Morrow, Jordan Williams and Shelden Williams, that’s a championship caliber team without any question.
by ZR on Feb 18, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
With the nets luck
davis would be gone if we had the 1st pick (SMH ).
by Zartan on Feb 18, 2012 11:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Offense sells tickets, defense wins championships
Which is why I’ve been praying for AK47.
I’d be happy with either scenario, however, you posted above.
by ZR on Feb 18, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
I'm high on AK47 for many reasons
He’s experienced and smart with the basketball. He’s long. He’s versatile. He’s creative. He’s a lockdown defender. He’s team-first. He fills up a stat sheet. He’s played with Deron Williams. I could go on but I don’t feel like it.
Only one major concern with AK47 – injuries.
by ZR on Feb 18, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
imagine we actually won the lottery :o
or we make the dwight trade and orlando wins it with our pick!
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
sorry if this has been said/asked in a earlier thread
What are the chances of Lopez playing?
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
about 100 percent
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Feb 18, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
would he start and play limited minutes
or come off the bench?
by netsyanksgiants on Feb 18, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
prob off the bench
limited minutes
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but how limited is limited
like 20 minutes? 10-15?
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
even if all Lopez does is get Petro's minutes to get his "foot" wet
That will already be a double-positive
well petro plays like 30 minutes
so yes
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
i'm saying
that you dont raise people’s hopes a full day before a game and then pull them back.
He’s playing today.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
yea i figured he would be playing
i just wonder how limited is limited hopefuly he is on the court long enough to gain some chemistry with dwill and we can see how his post game is
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figures his return
would be the day of me and my wife’s “weekend getaway” from our son. Hope she likes watching Brook in a hotel bed at 4pm.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
I don't Linsanity
I don’t want the media to go gaga over us. I want every team to fear us. I want respect. I
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
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yea same
if we beat the Bulls i want the headline to read “HE’S BACK” “Brook Lopez leads Nets to win over #1 Bulls”
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I'm pretty excited to have the Big Disney back.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
You don't ask for respect.
You earn it.
The Nets haven’t earned anything.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
I didn't ask for it
Linsanity is fake hype, Linsanity brings fake fans.
I want real respect, and I’ll wait another year or two if that’s what it’ll take. I don’t want no one-and-done
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
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Linsanity is fake hype, Linsanity brings fake fans.
What’s fake about him? He’s performing well, isn’t he? When you play well, you deserve the hype.
You sound kind of bitter. I understand. It’s just not worth it.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
do you think he's MVP material right now?
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their time will come..
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Speaking of Linsanity, did you guys see the title to the article on ESPN after the Knicks loss? Pure class.
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I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
Atleast theyre acknowledging the turnovers
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NO WAY OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
idk whether to laugh or just stay shocked
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am i missing something...
why would you laugh?
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because its just so terrible
do you not see that headline? or are you just messing with me
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Chink in the armor...
Think more like a racist and you’ll see it.
by DocJ on Feb 18, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
WHOA
i compelety missed that. WOW WTF?!?! and you guys call me memes racist…
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"Chink" is just about the worst name to call an Asian person.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Correction
It’s for Chinese people. A gook is for Koreans, a Jap is for Japanese people. The reason Asians hate being called a chink is because that’s like calling a German, Italian.
If you want to get technical you may be right
but racists generalize. it’s easier that way.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
its a generalized stereotype
the way you put it makes it seem like if a mexican would trip if he got called a spic instead of a wetback
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Asians hate being called a chink is because that’s like calling a German, Italian.
Haha what?
More like Asians hate being called chink cause it’s like calling a white person cracker or a black person the N word.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
"Chink" is like the equivilant of the N-word people use for black people
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Refers to weak spots in real armor such as gaps where different armor parts met..
but its play on words
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
another way of saying a person or system has flaws
like the patriots lack of a deep threat was the chink in their armor
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
i think it has since been changed
but goes to show you what scumbags work for ESPN. Another reason to boycott their bias product.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
Very true indeed
Despite the turnovers , the game was good and the Knicks could have won.
Espn loves to build you up and knock you down and move on to the next story.
by Zartan on Feb 18, 2012 11:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Stay Schemin' ESPN...Stay Schemin
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry
but there’s no way that several people shouldn’t lose their jobs over that. That’s utterly shameful
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Statement from ESPN...
Last night, ESPN.com’s mobile web site posted an offensive headline referencing Jeremy Lin at 2:30 am ET. The headline was removed at 3:05 am ET. We are conducting a complete review of our cross-platform editorial procedures and are determining appropriate disciplinary action to ensure this does not happen again. We regret and apologize for this mistake.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
FIRE EM ALL
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
stay classy ESPN
this makes jason whitlock’s tweet last week look like a nursery rhyme
by shane gayle on Feb 18, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
yeah......
well, i don’t think a win vs. chicago is gonna draw any attention…prob from the local papers though!!
listen, whats happening in NY right now..u want it to happen to this team….
u want the hype and all the talk….respect is a long ways away for the nets
BLAH, BLAH, DRAFT...
This is the last year we stink. Period, end of story. For the Barnes, MKG debate…can we save this? First of all, we don’t know what pick we have. If the Brook Lopez we know is coming back, we might jump from the 3-6 range of the draft to the 8-10 range or further. Both Barnes and MKG could be gone by then. We also still have this trade deadline thing looming. I don’t think Orlando deals Dwight, but if they do, that changes everything. If they don’t, what’s to say we don’t deal Farmar for Matt Barnes or Farmar, Houston’s Pick, and Okur for Stephen Jackson and Drew Gooden.
I’m not saying we should be doing this or that, I’m just saying, the draft is a long time away. It’s kind of silly to argue over who we should take or are going to take, until the deadline is passed and we have a good idea about what pick range we’ll be in.
I still think Lopez coming back, and Stevenson getting healthy will make a big difference. The All-Star Break is huge for us. We’re going to be a better team in the second half. One way or the other. I don’t know that we don’t finish with the 10th pick and the 21st, or the 4th and 14th.
Being that bad, might curtail Dwight...
Dwight hasn’t left Orlando yet. If they beat the Heat and go back to the finals, why would Dwight come here, if we’re in the bottom 5 in the league.
The Nets best interests is for Houston’s pick to be number 14. For us to finish nice with Brook Lopez, and still get a lucky bounce of balls in the lottery popping us into the 3-6 range, where we can land Barnes, MKG, or Perry Jones.
But, the bottom line is, the season isn’t even half over. I don’t want to talk about the lottery, because who knows where we finish.
Sucking as a team consecutively can pay off if you make it work
Sonics draft Kevin Durant. They win 20 games the following year. They draft Russell Westbrook. They win 23 games. They draft James Harden. Now where are they?
The Nets are presented with a great opportunity here
OKC haven't won anything yet
How about those teams that’ve actually won it all?
Mavs have been perennial wheeler and dealers, until they landed Chandler, Kidd, Marion, etc to go with Dirk.
Lakers traded for Gasol and Odom previously.
If we can trade for or sign Dwight Howard, I’d take that instead.
sure, if you can guarantee we win the No. 1 pick and there's a Duncan available
Doesn’t change the fact that your OKC model hasn’t won anything yet. But the traders like LA and Dallas have recently done so.
yeah but they werent guaranteed that pick
teams like the celtics and nuggets were blatantly tanking to get Duncan
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Ok...
We have sucked for much longer than that. We traded Derrick Favors for Deron Williams. Durant and Derrick Rose are MVP players. You need an MVP player. Is Brooks an MVP? Really? How about Lopez? D-Will even?
You can build through the draft, but you still need luck, and at the end of the day, you need a guy who might be the MVP of the league any given year. We have some good players, but not really any great ones.
D-Will is a stud. But we need Dwight. If not Dwight, maybe Anthony Davis becomes that, but MKG isn’t.
Talking about the draft in January is for losers. Plain and simple.
This is not about building through the draft
The thing here is, the Nets should be a better team right now had Lopez been playing the entire year. The Nets could very well be a .500 team. But, we managed to have a bottom 5 record due to a Lopez injury. That is something to capitalize on. You’re adding a top 5 talent to a team that isn’t truly deserving of a bottom 5 record
But Lopez isn't out for the year.
He’s might even be back tonight. So what pick will we have? Top 5? Maybe we go on a .500 run to finish out the year. That takes us out of the top 5 unless the balls fall right. What if the Dwight trade happens? Then we get no draft picks and need to look to free agency.
So much has to happen yet this year, for us to be talking about MKG.
That is why I said
It’s actually in the best interest of the Nets to stay as bad as they are, maybe even get worse after the allstar break
Yes...
And what I said is until it costs you Dwight and Deron. It’s in our best interest to get Lopez back, and see if he can be the kind of all-star player we all bill him as. I need to see rebounding and D. I think it’s there. I need him to show it. We need to get Brooks healthy, and Stevenson. I want to see what those guys can do.
I’m actually still interested to see a healthy 2011-2012 Nets squad, because we still need some of these guys next season. I want to root for the players on my team to succeed. Not stink, so we can draft some Mesiah, or increase our trade chip for some unhappy superstar.
i understand your reasoning
but purposely tanking with D-Will on this roster is a piss poor idea.
It is in the best interest of the Nets to trade for Dwight Howard before or at the deadline. Sitting there and being happy with losing will do a lot more harm than good to the Nets plans, mark my words.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
It really makes no sense to me
Dwill should see that short term suffering will result in long term success. I mean, these are things you should learn as a kid, delayed gratification
no one is buying that
and no one with a shred of pride is going to sit there and TANK.
It’s not about what D-Will should see, its about what he sees and if he sees an organization that commits to tanking on his watch he will not be favorable of that. He already is struggling to keep his composure with this roster
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
I guess Wade has no pride
Because Wade and the Heat tanked
as did Pierce in the Celtics
to try to get Kevin Durant
by sheepareevil on Feb 18, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Delayed Gratification isn't built on tanking...
Short term suffering leading to long term success refers to hitting the gym hard to get visible results. Studying harder to get better grades to get into a better college to earn a bigger paycheck than your papa ever brought home.
It doesn’t refer to sitting on your ass and phoning it in, until you win the lottery….
We should be trying to improve what we have, and then invest the resources we have when the time is right. Making Brook Lopez and MarShon Brooks all-stars is what’s best for the Nets. Not waiting on a top 5 mesiah to save the day.
by DocJ on Feb 18, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
The lottery does not reward hard work, it rewards pure and utter chance
Success is just as much your situation and luck, and knowing how to take advantage of it, as it is hard work
Idealism is great, but it’s a great way to make a mediocre team. The Heat didn’t come together because they were content with what they had, they took the opportunity by the throat
yeah
they tampered and had Dwayne Wade.
We’re trying to duplicate that, the thing is that Wade was sold on Miami, Williams is not 100% sold on us.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
i agree, you cant be productive sitting back doing nothing
gotta be proactive if you wanna make something out of nothing
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
In short, let's just keep on tanking?
That is, tank better if that’s possible.
Well we're halfway there
Do you want to almost make the playoffs, maybe, or would you like the best pick possible?
Playoffs...
I’d even settle for missing the playoffs, and having a strong finish to look forward to.
I want Brooks to turn in 20 points, 2 steals, 1 block, 7 boards, and 4 assists nightly. I want Lopez to go 20-10-5-2. I want Stevenson to lock down, and Morrow to drain 3’s. I don’t want to get excited for some teenager in Kentucky.
if we don't have Dwight
and we end up drafting Anthony Davis, D-Will is gone.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
at least we'd be left with a Lopez/Davis combo down lowI
If we trade for Howard and he leaves with Deron, we have nothing
jeez man relax
I understand what your saying but this is a basketball site and most fans watch college basketball and like to put their input on who they would like to have on this team even if it never would happend. I for one like mkg
by Pure baller15 on Feb 18, 2012 10:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sorry, I'm a business man, and engineer
I believe in focusing on what we know. Dreaming of MKG becoming Scottie Pippen on the Nets, is fun to talk about.
But, the reality is, we’ve got a pretty nice SG in MarShon Brooks, who needs to get better at D, and more complete overall. We have a pretty nice Center in Brook Lopez, who needs to get healthy, get aggressive, and get stronger and meaner underneath.
I want to see these guys grow as players. I don’t mind the occasional MKG comment, but he’s not here. He most likely will never be here. Even if he does get here, he might not be what you thought you were getting. So what’s the point. Go on a UK basketball blog to sing his praises. This is a Nets blog. I like talking about the Nets. We can dream a little, but my dreams involve a healthy Brook Lopez instead of a bunch of guys who have never donned our uniform.
I agree with you about Brook/MarSwag and about the dreaming part
but still, let the guy live man lol
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
i also do agree with you regarding the marshon lopez thing
Really think we should focused on what we can control now
by Pure baller15 on Feb 18, 2012 10:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Nets haven't come anywhere close to rebuilding like that
Other than Brook and Brooks, we’ve blown pick after pick and on top of that we traded away Ryan Anderson for NOTHING.
This team is the definition of mismanagement and negligence.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Well the Nets haven't come anywhere close to having picks as high as that every year, that's the value of being really bad every year as opposed to improving
And everyone makes a big deal about Ryan Anderson, when before this season started 0% of people could really care about that trade. He’s Rashard Lewis-ed by Dwight’s presence. He’s not the next Dirk or something, put him on another team and he won’t be nearly as good
I liked Ryan Anderson when he was here
and felt that trading him was utterly unnecessary. Not sure where you’re seeing people call him Dirk though?
Allowing Orlando to take us to the woodshed in that Carter deal, receiving absolutely nothing for him and then GIVING away a good player in the process is inexcusable.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Well they liked Lee better than Anderson, and you can't blame them all that much
Lee came off of guarding Kobe and doing a reasonably good job in the Finals, Anderson showed some good stuff but nothing to get especially protective about
Lee was overrated and didn't even want to be here
it was a bad trade, no matter how you spin it.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
trading for a guy that played hard and had talent
for a malcontent little crybaby.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Stuff happens
Hindsight is 20/20. I liked Lee a lot actually, in theory. It just didn’t work out, that trade was more of a cost-cutting move for Carter than anything else. Just so happened Anderson turned it on and Lee didn’t.
Look at Dallas – they traded for Eduardo Najera and the Nets got Kris Humphries. You just never know what can happen.
this isn't just hindsight
I remember thinking at the time, that although Lee had potential, probably would have been pretty run-of-the-mill, while throwing in Anderson was a back-breaker.
by sheepareevil on Feb 18, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
It was a bad trade at the time
Nets got rid of Carter but trading Anderson for Lee was idiotic. Thought so then and I feel so now.
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by BrooklynNets on Feb 18, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Different management dude
Billy King is running the show now. Thorn and Kiki are gone.
Move on.
by ZR on Feb 18, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
this stuff adds up
You can ignore the past all you want, but it does matter when you look at how we got to this point.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
King in his first year has shown he's on course to right the ship
He acquired Deron Williams for not too much. He acquired MarShon Brooks at pick #25. He was able to pry a first round pick for Terrence Williams. He’s also found value in the second round with Jordan Williams – who Avery needs to play more.
Give BK a chance.
by ZR on Feb 18, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
wait wait wait
I’m not killing King. The worst move that King made during his tenure was to sign Shawne Williams to a two year deal. Where do you see me kicking King’s back in?
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
"This team is the definition of mismanagement and negligence"
That sounds like you’re ripping on current as well as past management. If I’m wrong, please clarify.
oh?
who signed Petro? Outlaw? Shawne Williams to a two year deal guaranteed?
King made one bad decision, but lets not act like Prokhorov’s reign has been mistake free.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
I'm of the understanding that either Thorn or Avery pushed for Petro and Outlaw
Shawne Williams was a mistake, you’re correct. I hate the move, but it isn’t cap-crippling like Outlaw’s deal was.
Prokhorov’s reign has led to Deron Williams, for that alone he should be given a pass for something as small as Shawne Williams.
I'll give it a pass
if in the summer, Williams re signs with the team. As of right now, that is up in the air
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
With or with out D-Will Re-signing
It was a risk worth taking.
in his defense shawne is hurt and has been the whole year
And deron wanted him.
I think the worst move was the troy murphy brandon wright thing we got nothing out of that
by Pure baller15 on Feb 18, 2012 10:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cap relief...
We gave up Courtney Lee for Troy Murphy, and Troy Murphy for Dan Gadzuric and Brandon Wright.
Just cap relief man. And taking a flyer on Wright, instead of a banged up murphy.
Not a net loss there.
Murphy was a good idea in theory
Another player who couldn’t shake off the rust coming back from injury. Still though, was an expiring contract and a good asset for the Nets.
Courtney Lee would be a godsend right now
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Double double machine his entire career
And an expiring contract. How is that a bad idea in theory?
by ZR on Feb 18, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
No, he wasn't.
He was exactly what the Nets were looking for cap-wise and on the court. Smart move at the time.
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Just click the "Forums" tab up top there or this link! http://forums.netsdaily.com/
Please do it. It's great for more in-depth discussion and your post won't get lost in the shuffle!
by ghoti on Feb 18, 2012 2:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Nah he was a terrible short sighted move.
We were an obvious lotto team and if it had worked as planned it would have tacked on senseless wins.
If they knew all along they were going to make a huge trade there were still better win now trades they could have made for nothing but Lee and cap space.
If not we could have gained another pick absorbing a contract.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
troy murphy
that was not a big deal at all. Lee didn’t want to be here, and I was glad that he got shipped out. His attitude was atrocious
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
Different management. Different Owner, GM, coach. The entire organization changed except for the marketing guy.
i know that but
if you want to say that what was done before Prokhy took over the year before has nothing to do with the state of the team now, you’re kidding yourselves.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
I'm saying the corrective action has been taken...
So let’s move on.
yeah, lets talk about the current management
is lording over a team that is 8-23. Lets talk about that.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
No quick fixes...
We gave up Favors for D-Will, which made this Dwight conversation possible. It may or may not work out, but I like the aggression. I think it was a calculated risk. In poker it’s betting big on a draw hand with a lot of outs. It may pay off incredibly. If it doesn’t you’re still on track.
Brook Lopez and Brooks, are good players. We have 2 first rounders in a loaded draft class, and a lot of cap flexibility. We’re taking our run at Dwight. If it works out, outstanding. We’re a contender. If it doesn’t we still have chips to play to get very competitive in the very near future. I think management has done well, by not overshooting their chip stack on Nene’s and Tyson Chandlers, who won’t take us to where we want to be.
I agree the risk was worth it, but if we strike out we are not still on track.
We’re Mike McDermott driving a beat up delivery truck dreaming turning the truck onto the Jersey Turnpike and being at the Taj in 2 hours.
It’s part of the risk, but let’s not sugar coat the result if we brick.
Brook Lopez, Derrick Favors, our 3rd overall pick, the GSW pick and Devin are written off as trash when the mood strikes, but then if Deron leaves all I hear from those same people is how the Brooks Brothers are this great rebuilding foundation.
It’s one or the other, pick a side. You know what I mean?
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
No...
I’m saying we don’t know what chips we will have in July, so let’s not talk about the draft.
This has nothing to do with what I want our team to accomplish. I just don’t like seeing threads turned into draft picks dedication debates before the season is done.
I want us to get healthy, and develop Lopez and Brooks into All-Stars, and fill in the necessary pieces as necessary.
I feel you...
but we, as fans, have no control over any of that. Any discussion we have about the draft has little, if any, affect on how many minutes Avery lets Lopez play, or the development of Brooks, or who BK signs. I can understand if we were Nets management, but we’re fans. Our job is to support our team. And in a way, discussing the upcoming draft is a way of supporting our Nets.
This is what fans do (especially fans of underachieving teams) we discuss the future.
I just needed time alone, with my own thoughts
Got treasures in my mind but couldn't open up my own vault
My child-like creativity, purity and honesty is honestly being crowded by these grown thoughts
by PinstripePanda on Feb 18, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Piss poor management
pure and simple. The Nets have not given a damn about the SF position. Rod Thorn opting to draft a garbage player like Antione Wright over Danny Granger is where I pinpoint things going downhill in that department
Nets have had way too little talent lately to ever worry about one single positon
The Nets just need NBA players, period.
At least for this season, the SF plan was to not overpay for AK and settle for Damion and Shawne
A defensive-rebounding energy guy and a shooter off the bench to hold the position while we wait for Dwight and Hedo. Reasonable on paper given the situation.
But, we were left with somebody out for the season and a shooter who’s anything but.
Not true...at all
Lopez goes down, the Nets trade for Okur. AK47 had agreed to join the Nets.
by ZR on Feb 18, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
As I remember it, AK was asking for a big multi-year we weren't willing to give him
Which would have limited our cap space this year and the next to trade for Dwight. Okur was both a better Lopez replacement (in theory) and better contract for trade.
If we got Dwight in the offseason, they maybe we would’ve been open to an AK sign-and-trade nearer what he wanted. AK also didn’t seem keen on joining a pre-Dwight Nets, he wanted a surer ride.
Nah, he was going to join if Dwight was traded here.
There was no way we had mutual interest without it other then vague PR spin and writer opinion and speculation.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
well
whose fault is that?
seriously. There is zero excuse to at least not have more than 3 viable NBA players on this roster. Even the Wizards who are abysmal has more NBA talent on their roster than we do.
This strategy where we pine away for players under contract with other teams is at the turning point. I hope for the sake of this franchise, they don’t strike out this team time
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
There's more than that
Deron, Brooks, Lopez, Morrow, Farmar, Hump.
That’s six.
by ZR on Feb 18, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
The team sucks...duh
That doesn’t mean there isn’t some good talent here.
Lopez hasn’t played. You lose a 20PPG scorer and arguably the best offensive C in the NBA and you’re going to lose games. Period.
excuses, excuses.
maybe if the team had better coaching and a better overall effort, they wouldn’t be 8-23.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
We're on the same page
Just need to be patient for another month and see what happens.
Maybe you should wait for a week or two after Lopez returns
before you continue your complaining. You wanna win now and have some excitement, go be a Knicks fan
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Excuses?
How about fact?
I’m with you, I don’t like Avery, never did, but this was basically the equivalent of if Chris Paul lost Blake in the preseason and never had Billups.
I don’t love everything management has done either, but you can’t deny we have the most games missed due to injuries of starters in the league by a country mile.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
VC4P is back!
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
What up lol?
Looking like a season.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
injuries are a part of the game
and the nets assumed they would get by with a pretty healthy team
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Dude I'm not trying to argue this team was setup all that well, let me make that clear, but..
We happened to lose our runaway 2nd best player and have had more games missed to starters by a landslide, it isn’t close.
A week to a week and a half ago we had 86 games missed and the next team on the list had 50 something.
Kind of dramatic you know?
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Billy King>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thorn so far when it comes to drafts
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
SF?
Agreed. We could upgrade 4 positions! DJames as SF is bad for business and King should have known better. Tired of watching role players trying to compete with starters.
James was not supposed to be the starter, AK47 was
C’mon guys, I’ve said it three times in this thread.
by ZR on Feb 18, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
agree...
the Lopez injury hurt the Nets in two major ways. The team lost it’s 2nd best player, and key to offensive fluidity…and also required the Nets to use the rest of their cap room on Okur. The Okur move was pretty necessary at the time, but in hindsight has been horrible. Kept the Nets from landing AK or another 1 year player that could contribute and he’s done nothing this season.
Maybe Okur comes back after the all-star game and tears it up off bench as a 3rd big…doubt it.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Okur is done
His back is going to end his career. Sucks because I used to like Okur but it’s time to move on.
Lip service IMO
At a minimum, his Net career is over. After this season.
this
I didn’t have a problem with the Okur deal
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
SFs that signed 1 year deals lower than Shawne Williams
TMac
VC
JHoward
Battier
VRadmonovic
Why all the hype about Prince and Butler when the Nets were only going to give out a 1 yr deal?
This is what pist me off most about this season. All the rumors and hype just to sign Shawne Williams?
Any of these players would have played 30 mins for the Nets
I want VC
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You’re really playing this card? Vince went to Dallas because he wanted a shot at a title, he was never coming here. We tried to sign Howard, he chose Utah. Battier was absolutely never considering anywhere but Miami.
So you’re left with T-Mac and Vlad Rad. Based on the way T-Mac had played the last few years, there is very little to suggest he’d have been a good signing. Also, I highly doubt he’s physically capable of playing 30 mpg. Quite frankly I have no idea why you’re even playing the Vlad Rad card. Sure, he’s been better than Shawne, but he’s been trash too shooting 37% from the field. Shawne, messed up foot and all, plays better defense than him too.
Dwight Howard wouldn't start over Johan Petro
Doesn't make a difference
Two year deal for not the vet minimum is an epic failure on the part of the Nets.
It’s the little deals – like Petro – that piss me off.
Petro, Shawne…both awful deals. Shawne should not have been given a player option for year 2, that was insane on King’s part.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
agree...2nd year is the kicker...
if he was putting up same numbers as last season, it wouldn’t be as bad…Shawne probably would have opted out of 2nd year to sign a longer deal this summer. Now there’s no way he passes up that $3 mil with the way he’s playing.
With that being said, I think the Nets will find a way to deal them if necessary since they are only on for 1 more year.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
The Knix were going to give him the mini-mini-MLE for 2 years.
Dude has been playing on a stress fracture that will require surgery in the offseason and is a role player likely signed with Dwight in mind and also to compliment Brook who has been asked to completely overextend himself.
I don’t think he’s nearly as bad as he’s looked now.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Shawne Williams...cut by Nets and became another star manufactured by the D'Antoni offense
He’s that bad. He has literally one shot – the corner three. And he hasn’t been that good at it this season.
by ZR on Feb 18, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
I like the fact that you are defending our team
But lets face it…. without mentioning any names, there were better options out there. We could have done better than Shawne Williams. Bottom line.
Like who?
For the same money?
You make it like dudes were lining up to play here this offseason.
If we get Dwight, with Brooklyn, then we are a marque destination.
Right now and this last offseason?
We’re a question mark with a wack game attending fan base with a great chance whoever signed was more or less signing to be a Magic anyway.
Butler turned down money.
AK preferred his home land for a season if no Dwight.
VC wanted a contender and multiple years.
Battier?
Prince took the big long term bucks.
I don’t even love the Shawne Williams signing, but I want to hear these names so they can be debunked.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
WHO would want to play for the Nets...
as a rental—probable trade chip/stop gap for Howard on a team that would be fighting for the 8th seed, if that.
Shawne Williams, not many others.
The bigger move was Okur needing to be acquired because of Lopez injury and taking up the rest of the cap room…and doing nothing.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
VC and Battier did not sign one year deals.
At all.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Only the first year in VC's contract is guaranteed tho
he would have cost the same as Shawne this year and next.
Nah both of the last seasons are $2 million guaranteed.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
oh I know, I meant to say completely guaranteed
like I said he would have cost as much money as Shawne thus year and in 2012-13.
look at the teams these guys are playing for
their roles are way more reduced than it would be on the Nets.
could you imagine Avery dialing a Vlad Rad iso? or posting up Battier?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Heh.
Even on Friday night, one of my friends e-mailed me that he was leaving the Lakers game and heard five different giddy “What can we get for Melo???” conversations with Knicks fans. And that’s the thing: They could get a ton for him. They could package Chandler and Melo for Dwight Howard and Hedo Turkoglu’s contract in about three seconds.
How hilarious would that be?
(Simmons’ article: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7579097/linsanity-bag)
Your gonna have to add a few picks as well
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if i was the orlando id do it...
by kupalski on Feb 18, 2012 9:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
if I was Howard...
I would say no thanks this summer and join…Deron, Lopez, Brooks, and lottery pick asset.
He’s opting out this summer if he gets traded or not…he WILL be a free agent no matter what team he lands on at the deadline.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
yes...maybe I worded it incorrectly
Howard will be FA no matter what this summer because he needs to opt out to sign the contract. If Howard is traded to the Knicks (or GS or whoever)…Then Howard can say “no thanks” to the bits of extra cash and core of players these teams would have after a trade…and join Nets this summer in free agency.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
boils down to...
Stat., Lin, Shumpert, Fields vs. Deron, Lopez, Brooks, Morrow + lottery pick/asset going forward after the summer. Not even close.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
i thought we were talking about trade... cause free agency the NYKs wouldnt be in play..
Trade wise NYK would be a.better team.
by kupalski on Feb 18, 2012 10:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
you're missing the point...
why would the knicks trade Melo & Chandler for a Howard rental. When Howard WILL opt out this summer (he has to in order to resign his new contract)…and have the option to join a full Nets roster or even Dallas team.
Stat & Lin as side kicks aren’t going to do it for him. It’s not about putting the best package together for Orl. Howard has the power this summer because he is opting out. Which is why LAL seem to be cooling on the idea of trading for him.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
stat lin fields turk.d12... or dwill turk d12?
by kupalski on Feb 18, 2012 10:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Knicks can't add Howard via free agency...
Nets can…that’s leverage. If Howard doesn’t opt in for a year (like CP3) after trade, no team in the history of the nba has made a huge trade with no guarantees that the player will stay long term.
Howard & DWill have already made it clear if Nets trade for him…they WILL be there long term.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Yup I'm following.
Same thing I said on RealGM where insane Knix fans are saying they would turn down the deal just off talent.
I made the point NYK does that in a heartbeat except the fact Howard could and very possibly would leave for us in free agency and then they are left with Stat, Lin and nothing while helping us become a huge contender.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
If they traded Melo and Chandler for him?
He’d be gone faster than Kim Kardashian.
I dont practice Santeria
Deron, Dwight > Amare, Dwight
plus he would still be in NY, Deron and Dwight can win, Amare and Dwight has no shot
I dont practice Santeria
Then why aren't the Knix already on his list?
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Oh come on man, lol.
Explain that one?
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
It’s clearly not strictly about player talent level for Howard. If it were, the Nets wouldn’t be on his list. Howard wants to play in a big market. Although the Nets and the Knicks would both be playing in New York; there’s a huge difference between playing for the Nets and the Knicks.
that gap won't be as wide in Brooklyn...
and it seems to appeal to Howard to start his own legacy & play with DWill. (Not that the Knicks have a huge legacy)
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
He could start his own legacy with the Knicks.
Q: Do you see how the Garden is electric with Jeremy Lin? He’s a legend in NY in less than 2 weeks. That’s what LeBron never realized. If he came to The NYK every single game would be like that. We as a city are so starved for basketball success that if he brought us a championship he would have been a Greek god in NYC just walking along with the mortals. I hate LeBron.
— KDubb, Queens, N.Y.
SG: You shouldn’t hate LeBron. You should hate the judgment/instincts/business acumen of his “advisors” (the numbskulls who pushed him toward Miami and/or didn’t talk him out of it); how he walked away from the single biggest basketball challenge (winning a championship with the star-crossed Knicks, which would have made him immortal); his bizarre choice to play with his biggest rival over trying to beat him (who does that?); the fact that he played in Madison Square Garden FOR SIX SEVEN STRAIGHT SEASONS without realizing there’s a different energy in that building (??); or this current NBA culture in which people look at themselves as “brands” instead of “basketball players” and make every decision accordingly (and ironically, no decision for LeBron’s “brand” would have been better than LeBron saving the Knicks).
Look, I love the Lin story — I can’t get enough of it. I have been following the NBA my entire life; it’s always the other leagues that had Fernandomania, Fidrych or Teeeeeee-bowwwwwwwww! Basketball isn’t supposed to have surprises like this. On a basketball court, talent always wins out no matter what game you’re watching. It happens at every level — whether you’re playing pickup, high school ball, intramurals, college ball, D-League, whatever. You always know who the best player is; you can always tell substance from sizzle; you can always differentiate the gamers from the frauds; and even when we have a late NBA bloomer (like, say, Bruce Bowen), it’s always someone who clearly had an elite skill, then figured out how to augment it with just enough other stuff to become a valuable player. People don’t come out of nowhere in the NBA. That’s why Billy Ray Bates was the go-to reference these past seven days — what else were you going to say? Even someone like Ben Wallace (a more modern example of a normal “late NBA bloomer”) excelled as a bench player for Washington before exploding for Orlando.
What’s happening with Lin right now? Unprecedented. I have never seen it before — shit, I’ve never even seen a homeless man’s version of it before. And we’re going to hit some of my favorite things about his ascent throughout this mailbag. Just know that LeBron’s shadow lingers over all of it. He could have owned New York, and more important, he should have owned New York. There was — literally — no reason that it shouldn’t have happened other than greed, hubris and (I hate to say it) just a hint of cowardice. I refuse to believe that, after playing in that building in front of those fans for seven years, it didn’t dawn on LeBron that he could have been immortal in New York. How could someone not see that? My friend Lewis (a die-hard Lakers fan) went to Friday’s Lakers-Knicks game as well as Game 7 of the 2010 Finals — he said that the crowds were identical. Think about that. Chew on it. That’s what LeBron James passed up. And I’ll bet anything that, at some point in his life, he’s going to regret it.
i see your point...
the marketing-globalization-fan support would be out of this world if Howard played for the Knicks. Lin changes a lot in that regard too.
My point, is that I think Fegan, Howard, DWill, BK…may have already made up their mind about what the big picture looks like. If Howard is a free agent this summer…that picture just got bigger because he’d be joining a team locked & loaded for Brooklyn and a championship run.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
This may or not be a fair argument due to speculation...
But, I’ve always felt Brooklyn is the heart of NY. The energy at Knicks games, is the energy I heard about with the Dodgers in BK. Yes, the Knicks have the history. MSG is a mecca. But, we aren’t sharing their building. Born and Bred NYer and marketing genius (he is one) JAY-Z is all over this. The Barclay’s center will be a mecca. It will be a spot to be. It won’t be MSG, but it will be it’s own. It could…and I do mean could, challenge MSG.
The Nets, with Howard and Deron, could turn a corner. Start a buzz of new vs old. Re-Define a global brand. The Knicks are NY. They are Spike Lee. The Nets, could be more. It won’t happen overnight, but you started seeing Jason Kidd Jersey’s all over NY when the Nets started to dominate. If the Nets win a championship, it’s a start. If they win several….then the Knicks will truly be under attack.
The Knicks are not the Yankees. The Nets are not the Mets. This is more of a NY Giants-Brooklyn Dodgers argument. 10 years from now, it’ll be interesting.
I would argue returning the Knicks could make you immortal like Larry Bird. But, building the Nets could make you immortal like Jordan.
by DocJ on Feb 18, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
He's right
He will be opting out of his final year to resign. It doesn’t matter who he is traded too… he is opting out to sign the 4 (or 5) year long term deal. The same as Deron.
we know hes going to opt out.. but given the oppurtunity to play at MSG with stat lin fields turk hed resign with the NYK...
I guess don’t count out the NYK.. very crafty
by kupalski on Feb 18, 2012 10:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wait til Lin looks like what he is in a couple weeks...
Basically Kirk Hinrich with some better pick and roll ability but with a MASSIVE turnover problem.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
i think the Magic would do this..
Don’t count out the NYK’s front office has put out a better product these past few years… Aggressive …
by kupalski on Feb 18, 2012 10:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Otis Smith would be calling the trade in with his cell-phone before Glen Grunwald even finished pronouncing Melo’s name.
that is what I am afraid of
one of my Knick friends proposed the same deal to me yesterday and I scoffed at it at the time. The more I think about it, the more nervous I am becoming. It could definitely happen. Especially if the Knicks lose a few in a row when Melo gets back. As Nets fans, we should be worried.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
not that
its just that how do you go from “its a sure bet” to being worried about the Knicks snatching up Dwight?
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
it's really not that far fetched
In the end do I believe it will happen? No. But I won’t count out 2 idiot owners and Otis Smith.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
Idiot?
That deal is great for Orlando and craps on anything anyone of us, Dallas or LAL can put together.
I understand you mean Dolan as well but you said 2 idiot owners.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
In mine as well
But I thought you meant it in the context of the actual trade.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
"Turnover Rock"
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
hahahah yes
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
you get it :)
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
LINCEPTION!
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
2012-2013 Nets
PG D Will/Farmar
SG Swag/Ammo
SF Barnes/Houston pick
PF Lopez/Humphries
C Howard/FA pickup
We can trade our second round pick in 2012 and 2013 and Gaines along Petro for a good backup center and a late first round pick
Tre
by Treshawn on Feb 18, 2012 10:16 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Hump cap hold will be too big...
He’ll be gone unless he takes the MLE to be a 3rd big…and I doubt he does that.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
yeah...
and even then, I wonder how well Hump will fit next to Dwight…while I love his hustle, and garbage point mentality…Dwight needs a PF on offense who can stretch the floor next to him.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
You won't get a late first round pick for that
Also like mentioned above, Hump will command too much money. I don’t think we have his bird rights since he is on a 1 year deal. He could resign for the MLE but that would be a significant paycut.
yes
that’s why we could not keep him if ORL keeps Dwight and we have to sign him as a free agent, we would have to renounce Hump’s BR so his cap hold doesn’t eat cap space since we’ll need it to be able to sign D12.
If D12 is traded here in march, we’ll be over the cap in the summer so we wouldn’t have to renounce Hump’s BR and could go over the cap to re-sign him for whatever amount.
I'm not sure how it works
I thought that since it was a one year deal and he will be an UFA we don’t have his bird rights. If we do have his bird rights it still wont work because his cap hold would be too high. We would have to drop his rights in order to sign Dwight as a FA.
This isn't news to us
We have been horrible at SF since RJ left. Failures like Bobby Simmons, Graham, and Outlaw have doomed this team. Every year i talk about how this is the key position we need to upgrade during the offseason, it never happens. I’m glad to hear the experts agree.
he was poorly conditioned
which is why he had so many injuries
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Well Rodney Carney is coming back from overseas soon.
I would cut emmit grab him up always liked him decent player about 6’7 and athletic
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
by Atronic on Feb 18, 2012 10:36 AM EST via Android app reply actions
I’d been advocating for Green. Liked him back when he was in Boston, killing it in the d-league, worth a shot if Emmett doesn’t prove worthy of a second contract
Dwight Howard wouldn't start over Johan Petro
I don't think he's gonna be that good, but with his athleticism, it's at least worth a shot
There’s no risk involved anyway
andre has played pretty well so far, like his game
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Emmit hasn't been that bad but that's not saying much
The main reason I say this is he’s only 6’5 guys like Gerald green and Carney are bigger dudes with longer wingspans. That matters with loose balls, defensively on the break etc.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
by Atronic on Feb 18, 2012 10:43 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I pick up Carney in a heartbeat
he’s not that bad.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 18, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Just a thought..
Go get Balkman. his energy is what we need right now, to divert some of this loser mentality, that i have seen here lately, a much better choice than Emmett!
emmet isn't that bad
he is better than what we have now..and i don’t want balkman, as soon as he gets here he will suck
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
We already suck..
And I doubt Balkman would be any worse than what we are doing now!!
BALKMANIA!
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by Taylor Made on Feb 18, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
he is a clown with a bad attitude
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Nuggets demanded Knicks take him in the Melo trade
Knicks didnt play him and then dumped him.
What more do you need?
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
there is that.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
i watched him in the Pan-Am games
he plays and acts like a tool when he’s close to being the best player in the game. We never see it in the NBA because he has not developed since he got drafted
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
perfect scenario
no trade goes down.
dwight never leaves orlando via trade.
he goes to the nets as a free agent. houston makes the playoffs.
nets get a top 3-5 pick.. mkg or barnes..
houston pick – t-jones or if someone good falls we take..
resign lopez..
if not sign n trade lopez to atl for j-smith..
dwill swag mkg jsmith/lopez d12
instant contenders..
by TU VIEJA on Feb 18, 2012 10:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
A guy the Nets might be able to trade for
James Anderson of the Spurs. They thinking Danny Green is their backup SG/SF of the future, and I don’t think they’re unwilling to let him go.
I liked Anderson out of OKSt, thought he was a steal at 20. The Spurs never have an issue letting talent develop on the bench though, so I don’t know what it’d take to get him
Dwight Howard wouldn't start over Johan Petro
With Duncan, Blair, Splitter, and Bonner, I’m not sure how many minutes they need. I see more of an issue for them at PG. The lack a natural point to backup Parker. Farmar?
Dwight Howard wouldn't start over Johan Petro
two of those four don't offer a lot of defense
They need defense at the rim, they need shotblocking really badly, especially when the playoffs roll around
Meh, I never understood why people liked him?
Suspect handle, overrated shooter, volume scorer, crappy playmaker, good defender only when he wanted to be and not so athletic for a NBA 2.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Your 2012 Brooklyn Nets SF is ......
Turkogulu…. don’t dream anything higher.
I would, however, sign a Defensive specialist at that position.
Get D12 and D-Will together …. the rest will fall into place.
Look at the players who leave great teams, they are not always good. Good players will look great with that combo …. no worries, just get it done BK.
Well there are some attainable guys out there next summer
Carlos Delfino! I would throw my entire mid-level at him. Perfect contender role player
at this point...I'd be ecstatic...
with Turk and defensive stopper at the wing positions. The dwight—free agency stuff is just wishful thinking, but Nets can’t gamble…they are desperate.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
well here you go right here
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Another reason for Nets fans to take up polo: at STARTING small forward, #Nets outscored 486-182 (15.7-to-5.9 per), outrebounded 140-104
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
wow i wonder if you take James' games out
and how horrendous that rebound total really looks
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
There is a simple
you put Brooks at the three and start Morrow. Bring Farmar in for Morrow, Gaines for Williams.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
yep
that seems to work well i like that lineup for a while
Dwill
Morrow
Brooks
Hump
Lopez
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we've seen that from time to time
but Avery is constantly shuffling lineups and rotations
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
Didn't even realize Lopez was listed
So used to seeing Williams/Petro. But still, outside of him that lineup has been on the floor .
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
has had no choice
this is the first time the Nets have had 12 players active (assuming Lopez plays) since January 29. Most games lost (pro-rated) since 2000-01.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
agree...
Avery needs to stop thinking he needs a defensive wing out there with the type of talent on this roster…the defense is horrendous either way.
Although, with Lopez back…and providing offense…I think Avery keeps Stevenson in the starting line-up…we’ll see.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
i def say we try gerald green if we dont keep emmit
Then rodney carney
by Pure baller15 on Feb 18, 2012 11:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
they're not crazy about Gerald Green
They had Larry Owens ranked #1 SF in the D-League.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
well wasnt rodney cardney billy kings pick??
by Pure baller15 on Feb 18, 2012 11:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
yep
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Yeah but if memory serves correct he dumped him for a second round pick mid season in year 2 or 3 of his rookie deal.
Good shooter and athletic, some slashing ability but awful BBIQ.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
yeah one of those "green light scorers"
where he needs Kobe-like freedom to make an impact
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Any1 else see this?
one other thing
did someone here predict Nets colors will be red and black?
“It’s as sweet as it ever was, I’ll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we’re going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne.” —Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Feb 18, 2012 12:12 AM EST reply actions
Red and Black? That was unexpected…
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those are the colors for brooklyn its official??
by Pure baller15 on Feb 18, 2012 11:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hope so. These are my favorite colors.
Searching online, there were some nice jersey mockups using this color scheme.
by sour grapes on Feb 18, 2012 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Did I say that?
I didnt say that. Not me.
Nope.
I did ask who predicted red and black. That I did.
Yup.
No comment. Carry on.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Feb 18, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
what me? I deny it.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
curious, curious
I won’t be convinced unless there’s a hard leak or an unveiling, but I’d be very happy w/ that scheme (my Russian side will be very pleased…). There’s a lot, style-wise, that can be done as the Bull and Blazers have pretty blah/simple uniforms and the Heat are off experimenting with all-black, especially if we add a fresh design and a jazzy accent color or bit of pattern. I still expect to be blown away.
by brother_rat on Feb 18, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
I quoted you exactly
you can’t say u never said that
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
never said those would be the colors
not me, nope.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
not you
nope, you never put in sly comments like these and deny them. Nope, you never put in comments with no explanation, nope, not you, never.
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
yup, I do that
and I do it for a reason.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
You like to tease?
Dwight and Deron = Win
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sniff sniff
smells like plausible deniability to me. and it smells glorious.
by brother_rat on Feb 18, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, that's about right
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
I'm not saying no one else predicted it
But I’ve been saying for some time that the team would replace blue with black upon the move to Brooklyn. It seemed pretty obvious to me when NJnets.com removed all traces of blue and switched to a red and black color scheme, back in ’09.
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
What I wouldn't give for it to be '03 again
yuck
I already hate our red away jerseys.
red and black = bulls and blazers.
nothing original here folks.
by soul driver on Feb 18, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Heat too
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Red white blue is also used by
by sour grapes on Feb 18, 2012 11:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Whoops mobile fail
Used by multiple teams.
by sour grapes on Feb 18, 2012 11:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
A crimson red would be awesome
by sour grapes on Feb 18, 2012 11:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
red and black?
i’m not buying it. I need to see it to believe it.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
it would make sense
considering the look of the nets website, and those nets adds that came on during the finals last year.
by shane gayle on Feb 18, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
I stand by my statement
That a changing of colors could just mean a switch from Navy Blue to Royal blue and cutting out the silver
I dont practice Santeria
Miami Heat colors?
Yuck.
Was really hoping for blue and white or blue and gold.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I want blue and gold.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Navy blue
or a darker shade of blue
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
even powder blue would be cool with me
red is so worn out
Bulls, Heat, Blazers, Raptors, Bucks, Clippers, Rockets, Hawks, Cavs, Pistons, Sixers, Wizards all use some shade of red as a primary/secondary color
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Thought this was funny.
Q: For those of us in Brooklyn who live in rentals where satellite dishes are not an option, this story is the real Linsanity.
— Vincent, Brooklyn
SG: Great point. James Dolan is the best — he could win the lottery and somehow accidentally set the ticket on fire while lighting a victory cigar.
(From the Simmons’ article.)
Let's say Nets go on a run...and end up #7-13 range...
would you trade that pick + Petro/Shawne Williams & Farmar for Gerald Wallace?
Portand will most likely keep Batum over Wallace going forward…and Wallace may opt out for Port. anyway at the end of the season.
by the way...
I mean the #7th to 13th lottery pick…not thinking Nets have a chance at playoffs.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
i sort of wanted it to be blue but but
Knicks has blue okc has blue rather not have anything resembling the knicks
I like gold and black
by Pure baller15 on Feb 18, 2012 11:27 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Has it dawned on anyone else that under this 2 happenings:
A)Howard stays in Orlando until free agency
B)Lopez returns to form
The Nets will play themselves out of a top 10 draft pick?
possible, but still wishful thinking
to be good enough to get out of the top 10 in the lotto requires being better than the .500 and +.500 western conference teams that dont make the playoffs.. not gonna happen for the Nets.
and if we had better records than those teams
than we would be a top 6 seed in the playoffs..
so no matter what, the nets are either getting a top 10 pick, or making the playoffs.
14 teams don’t make the playoffs. Nets could very well be out of the top 10 record wise, but pull a Chicago Bulls (not have the worst record going into the lottery) and land D-Rose anyway. They are presently about 4 W’s (assuming all the in between teams lost there next 4 games) from being right at the cusp of being in/out of the bottom 10 in standings.
if Lopez
returns to form…I don’t think the Nets will be picking top 10 come draft day.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 18, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
even with lopez this team is in the top 5 worst teams in the league.
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 18, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
no
not if Lopez was with the Nets the full season. Perhaps now that the damage is already done though—in terms of final winning percentage…
agreed but noone mentioned having lopez from the start of the season, they mentioned right now and yes the damage is already done, this team will finish in the top 5 worst records in the league, brook it.
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 18, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
So with Brook and Deron, and barring no more injuries, the Nets won’t be able to pass Sac-town, Detroit and Toronto? Yeaaa right.
i dont see them passing sac town and detroit no, especially with the way detroit has been playing lately
and toronto I am iffy on depending on how well bargnani and bayless play when they return, I do not have alot of confidence in a team who has lost 8 games in a row to turn it all around because lopez has been added back to the team, he will help but games against teams like that are still not in our favor, despite what the most optimistic of fans might believe.
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 18, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Not disagreeing with you because all of your points are valid, but I simply disagree because those 3 teams are 1-2 W’s in front of the Nets right now. If the Nets are able to get Brook back to his 20/7 self after the all-star break no reason they can’t optimistically make it to 20-23 wins. Their 2nd half schedule is very promising in terms of being able to compile wins.
but looking at the schedule just because a perceived game is favorable to a nets fan
teams that are playing the nets feel the same way about us, and it shows when we face those teams, and yes those teams arent far ahead of us because they have been battling their own demons and have their own reasons for being where they are to close out this month for example I see
L@Chicago
toss up vs Milwaukee
toss up @ NY Knicks
L vsOrlando
L @ Dallas
I dont believe this team beats the bucks AND the knicks, I believe they will get one not both, the rest of the month is a wash too in terms of winnable games.
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 18, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Look at march and april, and assume this team has Brook back, and you will count around 13-15 wins minimum.
I see 11-12 including the occasional game the nets win you dont expect them to win
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 18, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
but i will give this, if they add players or make a trade and inject some life into this team
things can improve and they can win more games, this team has left a VERY STALE taste in fans mouths and even the players need a fresh boost of something, something to grasp onto to inspire them to get it together, besides brooklyn next year.
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 18, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
people can keep disrespecting detroit all they want but they have been banged up too
and nets fans thought those games against the pistons would be easy wins, heck even deron said the same and then they smacked the nets around silly, that team is way better then this nets team, even with lopez. the pistons dug themselves a hole with injuries and inconsistent play from stuckey and knight but now they are getting it together and have won 6 out of the last 10
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 18, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
It would be extremely difficult to make the playoffs
Even if lopez returns better than before
by sour grapes on Feb 18, 2012 11:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Howard on Playoffs and wanting tough player, via Orlando sentinel.
That said, Howard has perceived a lack of toughness with the rest of the Magic at least since their 2010 Eastern Conference finals loss to the Celtics.
This is a reason why he clashed with Vince Carter during Carter’s tenure with the team. Howard thought that Carter was way too soft to depend on in crunchtime.
Howard’s concerns about the Magic’s mental toughness appeared to intensify after the team’s first-round playoff exit last spring at the hands of the Atlanta Hawks.
After that defeat, Howard suggested specific players for the Magic front office to acquire. One of those names almost certainly was then-Charlotte Bobcats swingman Stephen Jackson, whom Howard regards as one of the league’s toughest players.
howards trying to win a championship, and vc is buddying around with the players on the other team
and yea seems like he really really wants to team with s-jack, I mean face it the guys no lebron or anything but you cant question his toughness and stephen wants to win just as bad as howard.
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 18, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Remember he said
he wanted to play with, CP3, Steven Jackson, D-WIll, and Morrow.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Well he just said he would play with Jackson
and the only 2 that are left are, D-WIll and Morrow.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Stephen Jackson is without question one of the toughest
He is a thug, but he sets the tone.
by ZR on Feb 18, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
i hope we could possible sign captain jack and maybe even KG
that would make one MEAN team
Right now we need that 3rd Player
Doesnt have to be a Superstar or even an allstar. Try to grab a Nicolas Batum, Lamarcus Aldridge, Andrea Bargnani, Gerald Wallace (anyone similiar but not named Stephen Jackson). Give Deron and Dwight no reason to NOT sign here.
Hmmmm
The hoop/net logo is fine, but the B looks like it’s vomiting the N or getting the N shoved down its throat. More equal use of red, not just as a framing accent.
by brother_rat on Feb 18, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Nope
Navy blue and gold or blue and black
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
wen are uniforms and logo officially announced ? i thought it was supposed to be in February
by blazin pp face on Feb 18, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions
both early spring
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Feb 18, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
that's frustrating--it's felt like early spring for the last month
by brother_rat on Feb 18, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
but it aint
i would suspect around the end of the regular season.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
keep the fans hanging on that string till the very end
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody remember how electric the rock was last year with Deron's home debut
by blazin pp face on Feb 18, 2012 12:02 PM EST reply actions
look at how the offense opens up with lopez
just awesome
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
hate
D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)
by corky_romano4life on Feb 18, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
SOS
EMERGENCY
this is terrible.
D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)
by corky_romano4life on Feb 18, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone else
find Nets’ Facebook admins to be annoying? Their comments are so… how shall I say this nicely… stupidly annoying. Stop putting smiley faces everywhere, the team is 8-23.
D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)
by corky_romano4life on Feb 18, 2012 12:29 PM EST reply actions
Hey, theyre getting paid to do it
at least theyre not all like “Yeah we losing and we know your not happy about but deal with it”
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
but the posts are so corny. they need to be more hood, to prepare for Brooklyn. lol
D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)
by corky_romano4life on Feb 18, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
haha
“ay yo ma boy Tyron, we gonn be gettin our C Lopez back soon brotha. Den we gon be winnin’ them games. Jus’ be patient for a few games, aight bro?”
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Precisely!
Rec’d!
D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)
by corky_romano4life on Feb 18, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
They should hire me XD
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's hilarious
“yo when are we getting dwight howard”
“We can’t comment on trade rumors, Jim, but the team we have currently has a bright future :)”
Dwight and Deron = Win
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here ya go
D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)
by corky_romano4life on Feb 18, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
dwight even told the team it was a done deal
by DJ HeavyDuty on Feb 18, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
yes and yes
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Extremely frustrating, really.
Could have had a memorable last season in New Jersey.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
This is why I'm a believer this will get done
I’m above your 50/50 chances. Too much sense.
by ZR on Feb 18, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_dwight_howard_magic_nets_121411
With the framework of a deal in place, talks had reached the ownership level in Orlando, league sources said. Nevertheless, Magic ownership did not approve of the trade, and general manager Otis Smith then informed teams Howard had been removed from the market.
Howard told teammates on Tuesday that he thought the trade to the Nets was a "done deal," a league source told Y! Sports. Twenty-four hours later on Wednesday, Howard told them that he was under the impression that "ownership killed it," the source said.
Kerber: Nets still favorites to land D12 if he hits free agency
If the Magic decide they will not be able to keep Dwight Howard and seek a trade before the March 15 deadline, the Nets could have the best package, with Lopez as the central piece. If Orlando lets Howard go to free agency, the Nets remain favorites to land the superstar with the lure of Brooklyn and Deron Williams — and Lopez as a four in that scenario. That Big Three is enough to combat anything, on the court or in the marketing arena.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/nets/center_of_it_all_mUNSz4Ov5yJCcJrxaPphEO#ixzz1mkxnL4vc
im sure he means big 4
Deron
MarShon
Lopez
Howard
by DJ HeavyDuty on Feb 18, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Me gusta
That Big Three is enough to combat anything, on the court or in the marketing arena.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
jr smith and baron davis sweet
Al Iannazzone @Al_Iannazzone Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
D’Antoni said Melo maybe for Monday. Knicks should have everyone other than Harrellson available Wednesday vs. Atlanta.
More MarShon Please
lin sanity is over
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
Hahahaha the Nets marketing is funny. Trying to get the arena filled on Wednesday. "Dwight's only 2012 appearance in New Jersey"
E-Mail Subject: “Let Orlando Hear You”
On February 22, your NETS will face off against Dwight Howard and the Orlando Magic. For this one night only the NETS are discounting tickets in the Loud & Proud section to $12! We need YOU there to rock The Rock and give your NETS a true home court advantage!
How to Purchase Tickets:
Tickets are just $12!
Tickets available ONLY at Prudential Center Box Office beginning at 11AM day of game
12 ticket limit
Fans buying tickets must be wearing NETS apparel to show they are loud and proud!
PLUS, the first 2,500 fans to arrive at Prudential Center will receive a free ticket voucher to a future NETS home game.
by OTRWaldo on Feb 18, 2012 12:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Whoops, messed up the quote tags
On February 22, your NETS will face off against Dwight Howard and the Orlando Magic. For this one night only the NETS are discounting tickets in the Loud & Proud section to $12! We need YOU there to rock The Rock and give your NETS a true home court advantage!
How to Purchase Tickets:
Tickets are just $12!
Tickets available ONLY at Prudential Center Box Office beginning at 11AM day of game
12 ticket limit
Fans buying tickets must be wearing NETS apparel to show they are loud and proud!
PLUS, the first 2,500 fans to arrive at Prudential Center will receive a free ticket voucher to a future NETS home game.
IT SHOULD BE THE KNICKS GAME
so we can fill it with Net fans for a change
by Rodney Buford on Feb 18, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
makes you think
why the nets are making a big out of this “ONLY” orlando game in NJ. Memphis were only able to play them once this season let alone in nj…
I really think the Nets got a surprise for us moving forward…
I think you missed the fine print...
Only 2012 appearance in New Jersey… in a Magic jersey
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by netsareboss on Feb 18, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha
fist time someone said something about that I literally stuck my eyes on the screen looking for the fine print lol
LOL
i said that before too :D
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
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Are the Nets confident or just desperate? lol
Dwight and Deron = Win
New York Giants Super Bowl XLVI Champions
LoL I would say confifdent… We are talking millions of dollars thrown in to this new arena… lol im pretty sure they know sooooo much more than we do…
gotta remember, we only speculate and go by what we read… we read something positive about dwight coming here, we get happy… We lose a game, everyones walking away and BK is doomed…
Nothing really is satisfying the Nets fans until atleast after the deadline… so plase could you come any soner haha
we need a time machine to go to 3-15-2012
Dwight and Deron = Win
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Also couldn't they just say Dwight's last appearance in new Jersey? It's not like we're here next year
Dwight and Deron = Win
New York Giants Super Bowl XLVI Champions
Ehh, "only 2012 appearance" and "last appearance" is basically the same thing
Unless there’s some new Nj team we don’t know about…
Dwight and Deron = Win
New York Giants Super Bowl XLVI Champions
seriously
I just wanna fast forward to 3/15 haha
How 'bout this?
Courtesy of a Netsdaily poster (not sure who did it).
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
don't mean to burst people's bubble (s) here
but the addition of Brook Lopez isn’t gonna do much for this horrible team….u can’t even point your finger at deron cause his supporting players are so so so bad….
And that's why Lopez helps so much
he gives Deron a supporting cast
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
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lopez will help
the offense will flow much better and we will actually have a big who can CATCH THE BALL
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
wasn't saying that at all
brook lopez…..come to think of it…lets wait and see….
the nets ahve been so bad this year that i don’t see much in a brook lopez return….
This can be a serious statement
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Feb 18, 2012 1:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
adding a team’s leading scorer back into the lineup of a team that struggles to find scoring at times is never a bad thing. And things cannot get worse.
yes it can lol remember 2009-2010 season?
by netsyankees4life on Feb 18, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
we have 8 wins already with 3 games to go before the break. No way the Nets would flirt with the futility mark again with this squad.
I AM PRAYING
that Lopez’s injury has not changed his game and he is still good, hopefully the rust won’t be that bad…i hope
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
What I like about lopez
is that he got heart to play… He may be soft, but dude played a whole season with that damn calcium deposit in his arm… Just blows we didnt get to see him this season when he trained with hakeem and see the results…
well, we will get to see that tonight
Im not really gonna be bummed
if we get dwight or not. I highly doubt Dwill will walk away without letting BK know that he wants to be traded. I dont think he is evil like that haha…
If dwill wants to walk (and this is with dd12 not being here), let him walk and well trade him for someone good befre he does… By hen we will have good pics, Blo, Marshon, and someone from a deep free agency…
If we get dwight through whatever, then hey we get to smack every knick fan that said “dwight wnt go there, and dwill will leave”
agh Just venting a bit about my friend who said that deron would take that leap across the river… I got mad as shiznit!
WOW
Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN
No Melo, no Baron & no J.R. vs Mavs. They all might play vs Nets. No offense, but me, Jerome Jordan, Novak, Lin & Spike Lee could beat Nets
lets see if he says that when we get Dwight
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
good for you isola
Dwight and Deron = Win
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i want to see a beat writer bball game
LETS GO BONDY!
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
vasquez with the man's jam
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
bondy is petro
colin stevenson is shawne williams
Dwight and Deron = Win
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hhahah yes
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
lo, but i think it would be more like lamar odom type reception
Dwight and Deron = Win
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I actually just suck it up
when ppl make fun of the nets… we cant talk ish right now… we suck and the whole team knows that haha
Isola is an A-hole, quite frankly.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
What a prick
Hate that guy
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Feb 18, 2012 1:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He also called Rubio overrated
couldnt wait to see him go up against NBA players.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Not sure about Kidd-Gilchrist
I like him , but he seems to shade more towards SG at his size after watching him numerous times. College SF is one thing …. but defending Lebron , Pierce , Melo , Durant , Wallace , Deng , Gay , Granger , Prince , Marion , Hedo , etc …. is another.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
From what I have seen
I like Harrison Barnes and Anthony Davis. I too am not sure about MKG.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Anthony Davis is going first
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
They are probably analyzing him
to the point where they wanna be 100% sure he can play esp against the bulls… Lopez will always say im 100% good to go even though he is hurting
@ NI
how much are we on point with regards to D12’s certainty of coming here just by basing on what these writers have posted about him coming here? By that I mean what is our percentage of being right about him coming here?
he will say
50/50
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
cant he make it 90%
like dwill said in the summer haha
Nets are very optimistic
that’s all I know.
VERY optimistic
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
@NI
are these feelings any different from back during the lebron or melo trade?
Yes
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Feb 18, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
what are you "YES"ing to?
my question or YES as in YES! o NIs comment? lol
Sorry
Their confidence in acquiring Howard is much higher than with Melo and Lebron. Proky never felt confident they could get Lebron and the Nets were aware that Melo preferred to go to the Knicks all along.
Nets know that Dwight want to be here.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Feb 18, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
NOT so
they had at least as high or HIGHER confidence at various points in the Melo Drama. I was told something a couple of weeks ago that suggested just how high. I was shocked.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Well then they are fools
because he never wanted to be here. Nets always had a high chance with Melo although it was evident there were forces working against him coming to the Nets. Doesn’t seem that way with Howard, but I don’t have the inside access you do.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Feb 18, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry
but you have no idea what youre talking about.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
And I assume it's that the Nets had acquired Melo
only to have it unravel at the last second.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Feb 18, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
on more than one occasion
they thought deal was done and in each case, Nuggets wanted more. That’s what drove Prokhorov to stop talking.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
The Nuggets kept asking for more to delay because Melo wouldn't sign off on the deal.
There’s no way we landed him in trade.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
LOL melo
he never wanted to be here
Dwight and Deron = Win
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LoL he said he would have signed a deal with Nets
LoL, because if he hadn’t, it would have cost him $80 million.
LoL.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Yay for optimism!
Dwight and Deron = Win
New York Giants Super Bowl XLVI Champions
Bulls today? that meann we are getting the bulls trolls
Dwight and Deron = Win
New York Giants Super Bowl XLVI Champions
I wont even be mad
I like the bulls just not not a fan… I always say to my friends who are all nix fans, that theres only 2 teams I route for in the NBA… For the Nets to win and duh nix to lose ahaha
Here's my trade idea
Matt Barnes, Troy Murphy and a first round pick for Farmar.
Nets get a servicable 3 for the rest of the season and clear Farmar’s contract for free agency. Nets also get another pick.
Lakers get Farmar back and he would instantly make that team much better (which would make them less inclined to trade for Dwight).
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He got 'posterized' last night.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
What, I would do that so fast your head would spin.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
They would never do that.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Lakers have two first round picks
their own and the Mavs’ (protected 1-21, meaning if the Mavs pick 1 through 21, the pick stays in Dallas). Dallas cannot however trade both picks since they sent last year’s pick to the Nets in the T-Will deal.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
how long was Murphy here last time
before he asked for a trade?
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
enough with the trade ideas already lol
the Nets will not listen to us
DWIGHT usually shuts down every center lol
by netsyankees4life on Feb 18, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
You have to understand that Brook has some pride too
I’m sure he wants to come out and make a point. He will be playing against the guy his team wants to trade him for. And he will feel like the fans are against him with the Dwight chants. I’m sure he will be fired up.
by Rodney Buford on Feb 18, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
he has a LOT of pride
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Brook def wants to go to Orlando and play with Ryan and go to disney
He is fine with the trade
This article highlights (again) the danger of the
Superstar Formula.
By gutting teams, or in our case, waiting & making all decisions based on acquisition of a savior, and thereby having an extraordinary and unparalleled weakness at one of the 5 positions, you SCREW your team.
well, that sounds good
but it’s working in Miami and now with the addition of Lin, it’s working in New York. It has also worked in Los Angeles and Boston.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
yes he is.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
I agree with this though
I think there are only about 5 superstars in the entire league.
Superstar, and Allstar get mixed up a lot.
by Rodney Buford on Feb 18, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
whatever.
He is, period.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Yeah but he isn't anymore period, not on court at least.
He’s a shell of his former self even if he’s still a good player.
Maybe he’ll come back strong next year and it’s temporary but he looks awful, he’s also not nearly as good without a top tier point guard spoon feeding him.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Nah not at all anymore.
He’s on the decline and also playing injured right now.
He hasn’t been a superstar since his last season in Phoenix or at best the first half of last year.
He’s a superstar in media and marketability at this point, not on the court.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think either are 'super', both are 'stars'
Dwight and Deron = Win
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deron is most certainly a superstar
by netsyankees4life on Feb 18, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like super is the top top tier, in terms of both talent/performance and marketability. Deron is forgotten often around the league.
CP3, Rose, Wade, Kobe, LeBron, Durant, Carmelo, Howard. Those are my superstars.
Dwight and Deron = Win
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Carmelo isn't even a top 10 player most seasons, he's a superstar only in marketability.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
True, you could easily take him out. But his marketability is through the roof. NY Modell's must have sold tons of #7 jerseys this past year, thats why Dolan wanted him.
Dwight and Deron = Win
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Deron > Melo, yes
Deron > CP3, I’d have to agree as much as I don’t want to. CP3 is a monster
Dwight and Deron = Win
New York Giants Super Bowl XLVI Champions
disagree*
Dwight and Deron = Win
New York Giants Super Bowl XLVI Champions
CP3 > Rose > Deron. Final answer
Dwight and Deron = Win
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Rose and Deron for 2nd is debatable
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
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Definitely, but the excitement and scoring ability of Rose, along with his MVP, makes it Rose for me.
Dwight and Deron = Win
New York Giants Super Bowl XLVI Champions
put Rose on this Nets team
see how they do. I bet every member’s of this team’s numbers would go down. Rose is a great individual player, but as a point guard who is supposed to make his team better, Deron > Rose.
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
some dont understand the NBA
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
1. Miami achieved the near impossible task of ...
aligning 3 top 10 players (perhaps illegally). And I jury’s out until we see a ring.
2. New York has not worked at ALL. The only time it worked was when they shored up the weakest position AND the superstars were sitting out.
Superstars and stars win, not well built teams without them.
Dallas is super rare.
Detroit is an anomaly and still had 4 top 20 players in their starting lineup even if they didn’t have a superstar.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
it was not illegal in any regard
Of the last four NBA champions, the Lakers twice, the Celtics and the Mavs, three were super teams.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
I don't see lakers or Mavs as "SUPER" Teams
And how do you disregard the Spurs and Pistons championship teams in these discussions?
You don't see the Lakers as a super team?
Kobe and Pau when in their primes with Odom wasn’t a sick 1 2 punch with a super strong 3rd wheel?
Pau gets criminally underrated, he was a monster for 4 seasons.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Pau was a lock top 10 player for at least 3 of 4 seasons in LAL.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Pau should have been Finals MVP against Boston.
Kobe fell apart in the later games and Pau carried them.
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
Pau was 21 and 12 his first season in LA
Odom has been a borderline all-star every year up to this year since 2007
and Bynum was underutilized the entire time
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
not what I said
and the Lakers didnt win till they acquired Gasol.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
It's also working in OKC no matter how they came to have their superstars.
And of course LAC.
It worked with the old Lakers of any generation and the same with the Celtics especially the current ones a couple seasons ago.
Bottom line, superstars win.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
I understand why my point is often obfuscated here
There is too much emotion.
But it has always been: Build a balanced, deep team, with a work ethic and a good coach over the other superstar model. I believe the former has worked more successfully and brought us better bball over the years.
there is more than one way to build a championship team.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
No actually it has never been...
Build a balanced, deep team, with a work ethic and a good coach over the other superstar model
Stars win, just look at the title holders and the true contenders.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Spurs and Lakers were built with stars.
And Bulls?! You mean like MJ and Pippen Bulls?!
Mavs had Dirk and they are a once a 20 year anomaly. He went on the most dominant playoff run since Michael Jordan.
Pistons had 4 top 20 players and again were a once in a blue anomaly.
None of those models are sustainable, especially in the current NBA which is being setup more and more like the NBA of old.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 18, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
mavs okay
Dirk went on a great run but where were they in 06 and 07?
and in the early 00’s always getting crushed by the Spurs/Lakers/Kings
or the 80’s getting handled by the Lakers
Lakers have always won with stars, Baylor, Barry, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Worthy, Kobe, Shaq, Pau
Bulls in the ABA had Artis Gilmore, then they got this Jordan guy put him next to this Pippen guy and they havent been close to that success until last year with oh another Star in Derrick Rose
Pistons – bad boys were full of hall of famers. the 04 team had two of the 5 best post defenders and one would beat the other out for DPOY. the Finals MVP has been criminally underrated up to the last 2 or so years because he has been putting up elite numbers for some time.
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention their latest
acquisition of Jr smith… I dont care what you guys say about him but the dude is a slasher… we need someone like that… our players are the ones that get slashed all the time
he can easily be disruptive
EVERY coach who has ever worked with him since high school has HATED him.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
It depends on what your gutting your team for
For players like Lebron and D12 you gut. For Melo or Deron I wouldn’t imo.
Life as a Net fan
Can it get any worse? There's always tomorrow.
am I the only one excited
to see brook tonight?
nope i am, just dont think they will compete
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 18, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
lol I dont care I just wanna see the man play
watch him start crossing ppl over
Nets are second in NBA in three's
you open things up with Brook in the post and there will be lot more open shots.
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by Net Income on Feb 18, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
+111
Dwight and Deron = Win
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-11
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regardless of whether or not that was a joke
you don’t want to alienate what little fans this team has left ;)
Just joking. It is kind of annoying who sometimes you have to guess which posts are replies to which, though
There should be lines
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that's what the "up" link is for
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I'm very excited
but I’m not getting my hopes up. He will be a little rusty, and we’re playing the Bulls
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slow down with the lopez stuff guys..we dont even know if he is playing today
by netsyankees4life on Feb 18, 2012 1:49 PM EST reply actions
You cant slow this train down, buddy
hahaha dudes gonna play !
hopefully...hes questionable not probable
by netsyankees4life on Feb 18, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Stephenson just tweeted looks like he's playing
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
hes not talking about deshawn STEVENSON SMH
by netsyankees4life on Feb 18, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO
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OHhhhHHhhH
hHAhHAhHA… whatevs! tomatoes tomatos
last week you said he didnt have a twitter
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 18, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
maybe they will have
a star wars entrance song for him
i dont think so…..yet
Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...
by D-Will2Nets on Feb 18, 2012 2:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
According to the Star-Ledger...
Nets’ Brook Lopez expected to return today, giving team hope
EXPECTED
http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/2012/02/nets_brook_lopez_expected_to_r.html
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Regarding Red & Black...
this is confusing, that guy from that logo forum said the colors were unlike anything in the NBA.
FIRE JESSICA TAFF
Pink and Yellow. lol
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Rainbow
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did you see the Hornets jerseys last night?
by sheepareevil on Feb 18, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking more of Barney
but okay
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I like them
they’re so over the top and obnoxious that they’re awesome. i also like Mardis Gras
by sheepareevil on Feb 18, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
I hate them.
When I was watching the game, whenever they turned around, I thought it was the other team.
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
I'm in the group that actually liked them. Innovative and eye-opening for a team that sure needs it.
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i did like that they have the contrasting patterned side panels
but the pattern was gross and looks horrible.
interesting idea, but executed horribly. those mardi gras colors just don’t work, they feel like they escaped out of the 1970s.
There's no way it's something common or gang colors like black and red
I just hope it’s not something unusual yet boring like the thunder’s jerseys
I like the thunder's jerseys
kinda
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Me too, they are nice
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Yeah, me too. How are these boring!?!?
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
I don't like the colors
and it is a pretty simple design when you look at it. It’s the colors that make it Loud
I swear if the Sonics come back I will by a jersey ASAP
they had one of the better more unique uniform designs out there
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Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of which, anyone have a link to that?
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
he said NOTHING in that comment.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
?
He mentioned that they were special to the league and that something having to do with the court was also incorporated.
That is “nothing”?
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
wrong
he said they’re not what you’d expect
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
unless you're talking about something else...
I’ve already seen prototypes of the uniforms (actual protos, not just mock-ups or photos), and I can say two things about them: (1) They’re almost certainly not what you’re expecting, and (2) I like them
http://www.uni-watch.com/2012/02/10/a-huge-array-of-sports-related-valentines-cards/
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
Regarding the RED and BLACK
There is NO way they would pick those colors for Brooklyn, that would be socially irresponsible.
LOL
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Oye.
Are these really red and black?
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
all i have to say about th nets uniforms is "uh huh you know what it is"
by netsyankees4life on Feb 18, 2012 2:09 PM EST reply actions
haha. Black & Yellow would be sick!
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Well I'm sure black bananas aren't good for you
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that's tacky man
like welcome to The Barclays center, where our jersey look like something out of Brooklyn circa 1974
you b the judge...it was on the cover of a game
by netsyankees4life on Feb 18, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
yea I actually liked these
we should take that gold. i.e. Watch The Throne (movin the Nets, BK!)
by sheepareevil on Feb 18, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
It was still considered to be one of the worst looking jerseys of all time
why do you think they killed the design
by who?
I think it’s awesome. a nice break from the red, white and blue half the league wears
by sheepareevil on Feb 18, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
those aren't bad
and even if they were considered one of the worst of all time, i’m sure it wasn’t because it was gold
could have been the black shorts
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
terrible jerseys, the all black shorts killed it
but the fact they played on a court with Blue and Tan floor panels made it 100 times worse
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Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
WHAT!? I loved them!
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
If gold isnt the primary color
go for it
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How about navy blue
with gold outline
or something to that affect
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our throwback blue with gold lettering and white stars?
by netsyankees4life on Feb 18, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
and the logo RIGHT
I want to actually wear a NETS hat that looks nice
by Rodney Buford on Feb 18, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
flat brim 59fifty? thats where its at
by netsyankees4life on Feb 18, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
cock back, snap back
see my cut through the holes
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
Too many teams with Red, White, and Blue
Sixers, Hawks, etc..
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Broccoli
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
speaking of which
who has 2k12 on PS3 that wanna do a quick game?
I do.
Add me. GiantsNetsYanks1
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Whats your username?
You too, VDUBFACTOR
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 18, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
NOOOO (YESSS)
Colin Stephenson @Ledger_Nets Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Brook shaved his beard. Telltale sign he’s playing.
I think it's fine.
How can you fear the beard
if it isn’t there?!
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i actually dig the caveman look
helps with his image and marketability
could you imagine Brook in GEICO commercials?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
WOOOOHOOOO
K.C Johnson @KCJHoop Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
DRose out vs. Nets. #Bulls
I think it's fine.
....
K.C Johnson @KCJHoop Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
DRose out vs. Nets. #Bulls
Retweeted by Fred Kerber
I dont practice Santeria
rose out
Stefan Bondy @NYDNInterNets
Word is Derrick Rose is out tonight
oh mannnnn POOP
I wanted him to play :(
Chris Carrino @ChrisCarrino
According to Avery, Brook sits again today, starts tomorrow vs Mil at The Rock. Listen to our interview at 4 on @WFAN660. Pregame 3:50.
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by corky_romano4life on Feb 18, 2012 2:45 PM EST reply actions
WHATTTTT
NOT COOL. NOT COOL.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
well we are going to lose this game anyway
can beat Milwaukee, and of course we want to have him looking stellar for the Knicks.
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by corky_romano4life on Feb 18, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Net Income
What happened to crushing the fans?
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
sigh
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by corky_romano4life on Feb 18, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Starts tomorrow?
on limited minutes right?
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Aw damn, its true.
Andy Vasquez @andy_vasquez Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Brook Lopez will start tomorrow night. Won’t play today.
I think it's fine.
brook doesnt know whats best for himself
Aver experienced the back-back-back as a coach, tim walsh has seen the effect it has on the players.
Brook simply forgot the kind of beating his body is going to get, not to mention the back-back-back.
He cant possibly be in game shape either so he needs to take it slow.
It’s the right decision
So?
I’d rather he shake off the rust against an interior like Mil rather than Chi
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.....
Fred Kerber @FredKerber Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Lopez will play sunday and wednesday avery sed
I dont practice Santeria
Petition against Avery!
LET HIM PLAY AGAINST THE KNICKS!
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YO THIS MAKES NO SENSE
Colin Stephenson @Ledger_Nets Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Mehmet Okur (back) is out till after the all star break. Brook will miss Knix and play Wed. v. Orlando.
I HEREBY QUIT BEING A NETS FAN. CAN’T HANDLE IT ANYMORE.
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by corky_romano4life on Feb 18, 2012 2:50 PM EST reply actions
God, this is dumb.
Colin Stephenson @Ledger_Nets Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Mehmet Okur (back) is out till after the all star break. Brook will miss Knix and play Wed. v. Orlando.
I think it's fine.
He should PLAY vs Knicks and SIT vs Orlando.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
The schedule they are playing him makes NO sense
Sit vs Bulls, Play vs Milwaukee, Sit vs Knicks, Play vs Magic.
SHOULD BE THE EXACT OPPOSITE
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Uuummmm, this doesnt make sense
he should sit out against orlando…..so that dwight doesnt completely murder him
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Feb 18, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions
then play him today and monday….gotta play him against the knicks.
Knicks are going to have JR and Carmelo.
"Beware the Ides of March."
I don't disagree.
This is really frustrating. I wan’t to see him play, but the Nets are protecting their investment.
Ok so if they are trying to avoid back-to-back games
— play him today
— play him Monday
— play him Wednesday
Oh, the Nets…
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by corky_romano4life on Feb 18, 2012 2:53 PM EST reply actions
ugh
I was counting down the minutes til 4, now I barely care and will probably stop watching by halftime when we’re getting blown out
SMH at this franchise.
(STARTing is irrelevant)
Brook should be playing limited, monitored minutes beginning today.
Based upon the reactions and testing both after game and pre-next-game, Brook should continued to paly limited, but increasing monitored minutes.
MY GOD how do these people get/keep jobs.
My thought exactly.
Give 15-20 minutes tonight, feel it out tomorrow and go from there.
Yup Avery
Play him against the best Center in the league, but not the Knicks, real sense
I dont practice Santeria
I don’t know why you’re all assuming this is Avery’s call. Could be the training staff, could be upper management wanting to showcase him against Orlando
Dwight Howard wouldn't start over Johan Petro
It's too dumb
to be anyone else.
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by calling all toasters on Feb 18, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Lol at the reactions.
please think with logic rather than desire. This is the smart decision. Maybe it was dumb listing him as questionable against the bulls but he cant just come back. its a process.
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