What To Make Of D12 Comments
by Net Income on Feb 16, 2012 8:38 AM EST
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PrintBrian Schmitz has long covered the Magic for the Orlando Sentinel. He has also long been an advocate of trading Dwight Howard now, if not yesterday. On Thursday, he writes about Howard's latest Sphinx-like comments.
After noting Howard's comments about wanting to be the "go-to guy", the "closer", in Orlando and about his desire to lead the Magic to a title, Schmitz writes, "Unusual for him to care this much if he wasn't thinking about staying, isn't it? When I asked him after everybody left whether anything had changed in his trade scenario, he didn't say no. 'Just have to be patient,' he said."
Schmitz admits he doesn't know what to make about it all, but of course, the Magic have long hoped they could persuade their big man to stay. Schmitz thinks Howard is still playing games with the Magic and treating them like "the NBA Developmental League for the Nets."
- Orlando Magic: Dwight Howard's "closer" comments ill-timed - Brian Schmitz - Orlando Sentinel
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As a Nets fan ,
I just remind myself that LeBron said the same thing about Cleveland and now he is playing in Miami.
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Feb 16, 2012 8:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Haha no
Im pretty sure I’ve been around longer than Shameer.
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Feb 16, 2012 9:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol my apologies good sir :)
by KillaHoose on Feb 16, 2012 9:42 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Remind yourself also Lebron said Brooklyn is his favorite city
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To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
The nut of the article:
" ’That’s one thing that I want for myself, so I can become the guy who finishes games for my team. I want to be that guy whose team wants him to close games out for them. Coach just needs to have confidence in me.’"
Translation: “It’s SVG’s fault that I can’t hit a free throw. If he only believed in me, I could.”
"Good pitching will always stop good hitting and vice-versa." -- Casey Stengel
by calling all toasters on Feb 16, 2012 8:57 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dwight would def be the man here, Dwight is such a bigger star than Deron he would change this franchise so much
When was the last time nets got a top 3 player?
I hope he comes here because Deron will get him the ball so easily
They've never had a Top 3 player
During their NBA years.
i would argue that when we got kidd
back in 2000 he was a top 3 player in the league…. he was getting triple doubles like it was nothing, and he made everyone around him better while going some where around 20 points 10 ast. and 6 rebounds a game. he led the nets to back to back fnals
by King Of Russia on Feb 16, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
UmmmmKidd was certainly a top 3 player
Kidd was phenominal during his glory years with the Nets. I do remember hearing the MVP chants when Kidd was with the Nets and many believe you shuld’ve gotten the MVP over Duncan in 04 ( I think that was the year)
by jonnyplastic@yahoo.com on Feb 17, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
didnt i just say that?
no need to repeat
by King Of Russia on Feb 17, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
'Just have to be patient,' he said."
Deadline patient or off-season patient? lol
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
That's it Dwight Lull the Magic into letting you hit FA
Then its Brooklyn all the way!!!
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Feb 16, 2012 9:08 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Why would he want to come here and miss the playoffs?
I mean, that slim chance we don’t go on a tear and make the playoffs.
I think he would get over missing the playoffs
for a fresh start in Brooklyn next year. These guys are thinking about championships, not just the playoffs.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Feb 16, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
have you seen the Nets plays
They are still 4-5 players short of a playoff team
Why is this relevant?
It has nothing to do with this season. It’s about Brooklyn and next season. The fact that these comments keep coming up are baffling.
Oh, simmer down. This article is not about Brooklyn or next season. It’s about Orlando and this season.
by Coach Joe on Feb 16, 2012 5:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's playing games with the Magic
He’s told them everything he wants and went public with it numerous times and they still refuse to trade him. Oh well.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
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To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
by 3ptChucker on Feb 16, 2012 9:16 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Patient for what Dwight??? Trade? Free agency? Magic making changes?
Dwight and Deron = Win
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by Tylerguy42 on Feb 16, 2012 9:17 AM EST via mobile reply actions
trade everyone but DWill
impossible to watch this team anymore, get D12 at any cost
We're not winning any ball games, so why not do what you can to get him?
People upset losing Hump makes zero sense to me.
What do you think we've been doing?
BK and Fegan have been talking to Otis to see if they can get the stubborn owner to cave on his foolish thought about keeping Dwight.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
I Love It
I’m Ballin’ for real you pump faking it
Manhattan keep on Faking it Brooklyn Keep on taking it! Yeah!
Question, people are talking about Dwight leaving 30 mill on the table. Won’t he make that up in endorsements? New York market, global market, come on Dwight.
Dre Day all day
by Dre Day41 on Feb 16, 2012 9:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions
He's already top 3-5 in endorsements in the league. Won't get that much more going to the NY market.
So you are saying
if he becomes the #1 in the league he would be getting more money.
SMH!!!!
Why settle for 3-5 when he can be the #1?
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The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!
dont believe everything you read mark
i am an econ major, and i know for a fact that he will have way more business opportunities, both Locally and Internationalyl, while in NYC/BK, then he does in Orlando right now
by King Of Russia on Feb 17, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
you dont think he will get that much more??
first of all YOU and I don’t know anything howard is planning to do business wise once in NYC, if he wanted to that 2-5 could easily turn to 10-15.
secondly, it is known that Dwight is due for a new contract with Adidas. Derek rose is Adidas’ 2nd highest profile player and they just gave him a 250 MILLION DOLLAR DEAL, dwight will get the same if he plays in a major market, AKA BROOKLYN
by King Of Russia on Feb 17, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
in very general terms
the extra 30mm comes from a 5th year that the magic can offer, while the nets could only offer a four year deal. Since he’ll inevitably be in contract for that 5th year anyway (unless he gets a career ending injury) then he’s not really missing out on 30mm.
Check out this article, it breaks the situation down pretty well:
by Dolphins_Nets on Feb 16, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
The biggest issue I see
is with comments like these, it’s going to make the Magic owner feel and have the belief they have a shot at keeping him…then he won’t be traded…
And although I do like the Nets chances of landing Dwight in FA, there remains a nervousness and a bit of doubt that he will come to Brooklyn….
Winning is everything...Losing is not an option...
Section 4, Row 12...last season at The Rock...
the difference is that the magic front office isn't going on media comments like these that filter to blogs
they’re going on comments from Dan Fegan.
by Dolphins_Nets on Feb 16, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
not if he is asking to be traded
in his final contract year
this
to get nothing for howard would be an incredible mess-up with effects lasting years down the road.
by Dolphins_Nets on Feb 16, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
For those that think he won't get more endorsement money in NY
Look at Derrick Rose’s $250 mil Adidas contract. Do you think he gets that money in Minnesota, Charlotte, Orlando, etc. I don’t think so.
by LOVEandHATEHOOPS on Feb 16, 2012 10:04 AM EST reply actions
Orlando and D12 are not communicating with hidden messages!!!
If D12 had changed his mind, ORL would know that and so would the rest of the world.
Do you really think they want drama around ASG in their city? This flip flopping that some are suggesting is just what’s happening in Indiana with Manning. Public Damage Control it’s what it is.
A D-league team for the Nets?
Never thought I’d hear that in my lifetime lol. Unless it was a Springfield Armor article…
by PariseLikeSundayMornin on Feb 16, 2012 10:22 AM EST reply actions
PERSONALLY
THIS Is HOWARD mesing with he magic because they.meased with him….he did.everything.for olando and hy didnt.do.right.by him…back at beginnig.of season he was told deal was done…until LAST MINUTE OWNERSHIP cancelled deal…..now hes playing the game….gonna make sure he can walk as a free agent so whatevr team he wants to.go to will still have all their assests…and thats us….
by netsfan247 on Feb 16, 2012 10:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Schmitz admits he doesn’t know what to make about it all, but of course, the Magic have long hoped they could persuade their big man to stay. Schmitz thinks Howard is still playing games with the Magic and treating them like “the NBA Developmental League for the Nets.”
I hope so. I hope that he expressed to them that its Nets or Nothing
Wouldn't it make sense with the All Star Game right around the corner...
That maybe the Magic have privately asked Howard to curb his negative comments towards the franchise so that the drama can die down a bit with all of the press coming to town for the weekend events? Perhaps they’ve indicated to him that they will move forward with his trade requests after the event so long as he cooperates and watches what he says to the media?
Things have looked bad for the Magic FO lately so I’m sure they want to put a lid on that.
This would explain a completely non committal answer Howard gave like “you just have to be patient”.
Yes?
by acg5001 on Feb 16, 2012 10:46 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
The Magic are delusional
because the entire All Star weekend will not only be awkward for them, but the media will bombard them with Howard trade questions.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 16, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
yeah really
whether he’s at the all star game as a net or as a member of the magic, either way it’s going to be a awkward situation, and like you said, reporters will obviously keep asking about his trade demand.
Why do you think i've always said the ASG was a farce?
It’s clear they’re waiting till after then, but any smart owner(I know, he’s 85, but he must know what he’s doing if he still runs the team) would just cut bait. Whether Dwight’s in their uni or ours, it’s gonna be awkward either way. Why go through all those rumors when all I heard was that this was supposed to be about showcasing the new arena(which is not that nice, anyway?)? What reporter will logically ask anyone associated with the Magic about this game?
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
Like I have said before
1) this is clearly his Agent and/or PR person saying Stop with the Public Display of Negativity. This stuff could mess up your endorsements. Relax. Say Good Things. Say you want to win a championship.
2) This could also mean he doesnt want a trade. He doesnt want the Nets to gut the team. He could be looking at Heat roster and situation then look at Knicks (before LINfactuation.) and Nets(After Deron trade)
and say:
“Me, Deron, and Lopez could be a nice young nucleus. And why play with an Old Black Mamba when I can play with a New SWAG Mamba and it would still be MY TEAM?”
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The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!
ah…I dunno if Dwight is really thinking that, but we can hope.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 16, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
On another note, look what I found
"I’ve been waiting personally on this since Game 6 of the Orlando series," James said. "It kind of hurts for a long time. You kind hold that in for all summer and all regular season to get back to this point. I’ll be happy Saturday when I get the opportunity to release it."
Last week, James made a speech to his teammates, reminding them of what’s at stake.
"I basically just said this is the time," he said. "This is what everyone was brought here for. This is what everybody worked hard in the offseason all year long. This is the time now. There’s no time to look backwards. It’s all about straight forward and just the vision of us winning an NBA championship.
"We want to win every series, we want to take every game like it’s our last. But our whole vision is to win an NBA championship and we have to believe it first."
An April 16 article from what I think is a Cavs fan site.
http://www.cavsnews.com/20100416-2898.php
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The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!
April 16, 2010
Official member of the "DO NOT TRADE MARSHON "SWAG" BROOKS" Society!
The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!
birds of a feather.
One thing: Deron is not a good leader and Dwight seems about the same. Deron may be better. Howard doesn’t have joy in his team and his own player finishing a game. Between DWill’s sour face and bad attitude and Dwight’s me first attitude, this could be real sour. I don’t know that I’d like being either of their teammates. After all, who came calling to play here with DWill and who came calling to Orlando?? Makes you wonder- birds of a feather… Amare got players to join in chandler and Melo. What has Dwill gotten us beside Shawne??? Rose got Boozer to sign up. I think other players might run from these two!
The nets were not going to overpay Nene or Chandler. So the second half of your paragraph is kinda moot. And realistically speaking, a lot of guys will want to play with Williams and Howard.
by SamsHops on Feb 16, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
does JOSH SMITH ring a bell
he has actually been quoted multiple times the brooklyn is his to FA destination…. could you imagine a deron throwing alley-oops to dwight and j smith, and we would have the best defense in the league, josh smith and howard would be an insane defensive tandem
by King Of Russia on Feb 16, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
even rudy gay
if we get dwight through FA we could trade lopez in a 3 team deal, and wind up with a player like rudy gay or gerald wallace
by King Of Russia on Feb 16, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
then we draft a PF with out top 5 pick
this is only if we get dwight through FA
but 1 potential nets starting roster could be
CHAMPIONSHIP:
deron
marshon
josh smith
Anthony Davis (kentuky freshman)
dwight howard
or
deron
marshon
rudy day or geral wallace
perry jones or davis or sullinger
dwight howard
by King Of Russia on Feb 16, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
I really can't wait to see how this all plays out
This is the worst time to a Nets fan, we about an entire month before anything actually come together…THIS IS KILLIN ME!!!!
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
Honestly
This isnt so bad. I dont know if its because i have grown numb from the Lebron-A-Thon and the Melo-drama or if its because Dwight has actually stated the Nets are team he would like to join but compared to the past emotional rollercoaster this one has been the most enjoyable.
by bettacalltyrone on Feb 16, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
At least we are not the Bobcats
thank god
by King Of Russia on Feb 16, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
The Almost Nets
I think we are the kings of almost: almost got Boozer, almost got Melo, almost got Chandler, Nene, and Butler. Wow, would even one of them now make us a good team! Will we be the almost Howard?
Or…had we gotten Boozer, we probably wouldn’t have gotten melo or deron. Had we gotten melo, we wouldn’t have gotten deron. Had we gotten chandler or nene, we wouldn’t have gotten howard. Butler is a mid level talent at this point.
Plus 1,000,000
That’s exactly what the Nets are. You hit the nail on the head!
by jonnyplastic@yahoo.com on Feb 17, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
yes, but
Butler is better than anyone that plays for the Nets right now not named Deron.
A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush….. King is playing a risky game: yes, he could get the world, or he could be holding nothing. or a team worse than this one.
you may concider it risky
but he knows WAY WAY WAY WAY more then we do, everyone from otis to devos to proky to jay z, knows way more then us, none of those guys are idiots, for all we know dwight could have told all of those people that he is ONLY signing a long term deal with the NETS… let the media conjure up all these fake stories, they make there money, then ultimately the superstar ends up with the only team he truly was going to play for. it happened with melo, it happened with lebron, both melo and lebron knew all along that they were going to NYC and miami respectively, so them and the gms and owners just sat back, let the media make a storm which in turn makes them money and everyon is happy
the bigger picture is that dwight howard will be a net, whether it is in BK or by march 15th…. thats the team he wants to play for, the only team… WE ARE GOING TO BROOKLYN WITH 2 SUPERSTARS
by King Of Russia on Feb 16, 2012 11:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
might be tacky
but green that post because its the strait truth
by King Of Russia on Feb 16, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
You're dead on, my brother
Everyone knows he only wants to play for us. It’s always been that way. I green your post.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
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