Berger: Likely D12 Moves in July
by Net Income on Feb 11, 2012 10:32 AM EST
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PrintTwo weeks ago, Ken Berger suggested that people shouldn't dismiss the Lakers' chances of landing Dwight Howard. But now, he seems to saying that the Nets are in the lead, but that fans will probably have to wait till free agency to see him signed. Brooklyn, he writes, is "the clear leader in the clubhouse" but the Nets may have to wait.
Aware of Howard's world view and the Magic's aversion to trading him, league front-office sources believe the Nets can get Howard in the summer without having to trade for him. Why would they absorb Hedo Turkoglu's contract and surrender assets if they don't have to? The aforementioned $30 million, to some degree, has been overstated. The difference is one year and 3 percent smaller raises under the new collective bargaining agreement, money that a 26-year-old superstar can make up with marketing dollars and, barring injury, his next contract.
As for Dallas, Berger lays out an unlikely series of events that would have to transpire before the Mavericks would have enough to sign Howard and Deron Williams. Meanwhile, Bill SImmons is not persuaded by the math and thinks D-Will will return home. "I haven't talked to one person "In the Know" who isn't 100 percent convinced that Dallas is getting him. But let's all keep pretending this isn't true."
- Postups: As Howard mulls future, Magic aim to avoid repeating history - Ken Berger - CBS Sports
- Who should have really made the NBA All-Star team? - Bill Simmons - Grantland
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Simmons is counting on ORL trading Dwight for Bynum
(which he thinks it’s the best thing that could happen to the Magic, lol).
IMO, the only insighful comment in his article is his remark about Westbrook being a Table Tester
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
This is like the Carmela drama on steroids
by nynjlawyer on Feb 11, 2012 10:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I disagree
I think it’s clear that Dwight will only sign with the Nets, not LA. Carmelo was unsure himself for quite some time.
The Nets need to smarten up and learn from the aftermath of the Carmelo Anthony drama. Don’t give up you depth for a star because it won’t make you championship contenders. Teams that win the championship NEED depth. If DWight signs as a free agent, it will be the greatest day in my life and we will have the best team in the NBA.
I'm referring to the endless speculation, stories and conjecture
Perhaps the outcome will be different — and I hope it is, but the media madness is unparalleled over this extended period of time.
hahah why is it clear?
One article says Nets, one article says Lakers. Why is it “clear” nets get him?
IMO, in relation to all that has been rumored, said and written over the past months
if we were to reverse the position of the Lakers and the Nets, 99.9% of the media would say Dwight to the Lakers is a foregone conclusion. As it stands in reality now, it’s remarkable that there are still guys like Simmons and Wilbon who are defiant when if the Nets/Lakers positions were reversed, there’s no way in heck they would be saying Dwight to the Nets.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
it's just the industry
keeping the big markets involved like LA is the best thing they could do for business. I don’t expect the nets to get howard in free agency, i think he’ll be traded before the deadline, and write it down, all of these guys who say “dwill and dwight are going to dallas” will suddenly change their tune right before the trade deadline. We see this EVERY year, wake me up when this is over lol
by SamsHops on Feb 11, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
omfg
“I haven’t talked to one person “In the Know” who isn’t 100 percent convinced that Dallas is getting him. But let’s all keep pretending this isn’t true."
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
by GMJigga on Feb 11, 2012 10:38 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
Stein said in his weekend dime that Dallas would have just $27M in cap space even if traded Marion and amnestied Haywood
Assuming they’d offer Deron and Dwight to split that amount, you’d be asking DWill to take a $4M per paycut, in Dwight’s case it would be even bigger ($5.5M per).
If we're talking money
Dwight is going to take a paycut if he goes anywhere other than Orlando.
"It's not a lie, if you believe it" - George Costanza
"Silence is only golden when you can't think of a good answer" - Muhammad Ali
but the new figures show that he would lose around 3 million because the 5th year is an option year he could opt out of anyway if he stayed
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 11, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
And Dallas...
Would need to dump odom and carter in march. If those 2 are dumped in the summer I think part of their salaries are guaranteed and would eat even more space.
This is the first time I’ve heard someone mention that.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 11, 2012 11:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Every time I read something Howard related, I just want to...
by Dopeness on Feb 11, 2012 10:39 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
I think you're mixing up your buttons.
by Dopeness on Feb 11, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Simmons is funny and entertaining to read
But he doesn’t have a great grasp of sports. He’s like any fan: He knows a lot about his teams and their players, and knows a bit when it comes to other teams. But just like ESPN, he doesn’t know enough of specifics for anything not Boston or LA related to have a great opinion.
by Rudibager on Feb 11, 2012 10:40 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions 2 recs
ESPN isn't limited to Boston or LA
Just saying that those are where Simmons lives and where his favorite teams play. So outside of that, Simmons has whatever knowledge that a typical ESPN reader would have.
by Rudibager on Feb 11, 2012 10:42 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Sweet!
1 – Deron Williams
2 – Marshon Brooks
3 – Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
4 – Brook Lopez
5 – DWIGHT FREAKIN’ HOWARD!
by jirohkanzaki on Feb 11, 2012 10:41 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
All good but,
Dwight and Deron (dbl Ds) need to go the Bron/Wade/Bosh route and take a cut here if they really want to win. The smartest thing he can do is come in free agency.
Most people can't understand it since our current team is so horrible
but I’m fairly optimistic about the future of this team.
We are in such a great position to land Dwight I can’t believe some people don’t want to see it.
and thats thanks to DWILL
Lets all remember that…doubt hes dying to play johan….or is he??/?
by MetsNetsGiants on Feb 11, 2012 10:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Instead of trashing Simmons
let’s admit, D-Will to the Mavs certainly is a strong possibility if we (for some reason) can’t get Dwight.
"It's not a lie, if you believe it" - George Costanza
"Silence is only golden when you can't think of a good answer" - Muhammad Ali
by browne14 on Feb 11, 2012 10:43 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
It definitely is possible
but until Dwight gets traded elsewhere, the chance of Dwight going to the Nets is higher than the chance of Deron leaving for Dallas
by muwu on Feb 11, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
agreed with Muwu
It’s a certain possibility IF Howard goes to L.A.
Until then, It’s either get Dwight at the deadline or in July.
Dwill stays
Would be crazy if the Nets won the number 1 pick, it's not that uncommon for a 5-7th worst record team to win it
Anthony Davis and Dwight Howard and Lopez and you can bring back Hump. Lopez might average 1 rebound a game, but it won’t matter
by muwu on Feb 11, 2012 10:44 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
What position does Davis play?
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by netsareboss on Feb 11, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
He'd be a PF most likely
I think he can be sort of like Marcus Camby. Great defensive player, not really gonna do much on offense
Then why would we have Davis, Lopez, and Hump at the PF?
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by netsareboss on Feb 11, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
with Lopez playing some C
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
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by netsareboss on Feb 11, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sure Dwight and Lopez do NOT want to give up their minutes
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by netsareboss on Feb 11, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
you take the best player available i dont care
Davis is the best player available
by mightymosdefinition on Feb 11, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
what are we gonna use him for?
trade bait again?
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Either Lopez or Hump...
…have to be dumped from team salary in order to offer Howard a max deal.
no thanks to anthony davis, dont want him on that team, if no lopez or hump I wont argue
but ill take barnes over davis if teamed with lopez or hump.
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 11, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
that's ridiculous
Davis is the top player in the draft – period. Why would you pass up on a superstar talent?
because a superstar talent should not be 4th on the depth chart of big men
id rather have a superstar sf where the team would have a huge gap in productivity and depth there.
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 11, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Barnes is not a superstar lock, his best case could very well be... Luol Deng
And that is even besides the point. Anthony Davis is the priority, Hump or no Hump. The gap between the clear cut number 1 pick and a guy who is merely a top 5 player is not tiny. Humpis not some sort of big deal.
noone is a superstar lock, theres always potential for a bust, so barnes is as much of a superstar lock as davis is.
and luol deng is an all star and would be exactly what this team needs, an athletic scoring sf
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 11, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Bingo.
Also not sure if he watches Barnes, dude is not going to be a superstar, most overrated prospect since Beasley.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 11, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Barnes will be a good 6th man solid starting SF.
maybe if someone in the nba teaches him how to be a great ball handler he can make that jump into All-Star range
He can be a very nice starting power forward, Luol Deng is a great player to have and Barnes can likely be a better shooter.
I don’t have much against Barnes, I just feel like he’s going to get taken over a number of players he really shouldn’t be.
He should definitely go top 10, but top 5 is going to be one of those ones in hindsight where you’re like, “Bogut’s a really nice player, close to but not a franchise guy so he’s not a bust, but man, Deron and Chris Paul went a couple picks after him…”
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 12, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Davis is a game-changer defensively. It will be like having Josh smith alongside Dwight Howard. You do not say no to a defensive team like that. You won’t need to score because no one’s gonna score on you
There would be a lot of fast break opportunities, too. Easy buckets on the other end.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
the only thing that could stop Davis is injury
Teams have tried being physical with him and he is only getting better. I watched the Indiana game the other day where Davis got in foul trouble and couldn’t believe how much better Davis has become. You are starting to see some glimpses of an offensive game. This kid is dominating and only getting better.
I would take Kidd-Gilchrest over Barnes anyway.
and ill also dont assume we will get the #1 pick in the draft more likely we are somewhere between 2-6
and can address our need at sf rather then create a log jam at pf/c since i dont forsee a lineup where we have 3 pf’s on the court at the same time lol
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 11, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
If you don't get the number one then I definitely think Kidd-Gilchrist or Barnes is the way to go if you're the Nets
Terrence Jones might be a bit of a stretch if those are both gone, so you might end up getting someone a big like John Henson anyway
there is a dropoff after those three
A Sullinger would fit next to Dwight but I’m not crazy about him. I like Lamb but he’s a two and the Nets need forwards. I think Perry Jones and Terrence Jones are overrated, but they might actually be good fits. If you have Dwight and Deron you’re not asking any of these young guys to come in and star, they just have to play a role. I hope they could get two young guys to be in the rotation..
yeah if either landed in a Kings locker room
I would think that they wouldn’t amount to much, but my thinking is that the Nets may be the type of place where the Jones can succeed.
Barnes isn't even the #3 prospect, it's crazy he's getting this love, dudes ceiling is Luol Deng.
People need to start watching Thomas Robinson, kid is going to be a monster.
Lamb can play the 3 as well IMHO, I’d roll with him as well.
My money’s on Lamb measuring out at 6’6 without shoes minimum at the combine and his length is just absurd.
Terrence Ross needs love too.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 11, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I do need to watch Robinson
but would he fit next to Dwight? I like Ross too, this draft is loaded. If we get the Rockets pick we should get two very good NBA players.
Robinson would be an amazing fit next to Dwight in my opinion.
If you watch him he has shades of Nene, LMA and some David West all rolled up into 1.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 11, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn't be fourth...
… Nets can’t keep their rights to both Lopez and Humphries and offer Dwight a max deal.
If we end up with #1
We can trade down to snatch Barnes, MKG, or Lamb. That way we get another pick and our player of need
by djeterfan on Feb 11, 2012 11:05 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
This is what I was thinking
With this draft supposedly deep, BKing’s great drafting history and the need of good role players, this must be considered. I would rather have MKG or Barnes who I thing are SFs then Davis and have to figure out what position he will play.
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So Lin is an restricted FA?
I figured if we may need a PG, he would be someone to look at but Knicks will just match any offer. I thought he was unrestricted.
by djeterfan on Feb 11, 2012 11:08 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Meant as new comment
Moiso!
by djeterfan on Feb 11, 2012 11:09 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Here's the article
Knicks in a Position to Keep Lin: http://nyti.ms/Ap4uPY
by djeterfan on Feb 11, 2012 11:19 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
If the Nets still have their 1st rounder...
and Dwight is set to become a free agent in july…the Nets will trade the pick similar to Boston doing so when they got Ray Allen.
If it’s a top 5 pick in this deep draft, and coupled with a some expiring contracts, maybe even a second pick…it would land a major piece since the Nets would be in “WIN IMMEDIATELY” mode going into Brooklyn.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 11, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
What's the advantage of trading for him?
When he can just sign with us.
by djeterfan on Feb 11, 2012 11:58 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm saying...with the unlikely scenario of...
Dwight actually signing with the Nets as a free agent in July. I don’t think the Nets will keep their own first rounder. I believe it will be traded along with expiring contracts for a SF.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see
How we trade our first for an SF when we can have a legitimate SF in the draft
by djeterfan on Feb 11, 2012 12:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He's got a point depending on what specific pick it winds up.
But the problem is you’re limited to who you can trade that pick for on draft night due to salary constraints.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 11, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
what happens if the SF is rudy gay
you never know if the person we draft (mkg, barnes) will be a legit SF
by King Of Russia on Feb 11, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn't have the money to bring back Hump
But a Lopez/Howard/Davis front court could be legendary
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Feb 11, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
I think if you get Anthony Davis and Dwight, you trade Lopez
by J-Nasty on Feb 11, 2012 4:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think if the Nets got Anthony Davis it would be smart to save money and not bring back brook.
7-8 mil (his cap hit i think) is a little much for a 3rd big man. I’d much rather use that money to signe 2 solid bench players like Stevenson, or some one like that.
Would love for this to happen
But I’m sure the Magic won’t let him walk for nothing. Unless they’re really that stupid. Stranger things have happened though, like an undrafted Asian-American kid from CA leading the Knicks charge without their 2 superstars. Lol!
by Pinoy Nets on Feb 11, 2012 10:44 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Just continue the plan
continue to suck so we get a good pick
hope Houston makes it in the West
Get Healthy
Get Howard in July
More posturing?
Nets are willing to wait. Maybe Dwight is too, considering how terrible we are this season. I would still be surprised if he doesn’t get traded, though. I think the Nets and Magic are both trying to set themselves up through the media to gain more leverage in negotiations.
Bill Simmons, of course, is an automatic:
by CurlyBeast on Feb 11, 2012 10:57 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
Bill Simmons is trying to grasp at straws after his Pats were handed another loss by the G-men….you read the post superbowl article….so salty! so bitter! No Sleep Till Brooklyn Baby..
i wish i could sleep till brooklyn
by Pure baller15 on Feb 11, 2012 11:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t know why everybody is so excited about Dwight. Would he even start over Petro?
MarShon the Messiah
by J-Kay on Feb 11, 2012 11:05 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Lol
I just spit out my coffee after reading that. Lol!
by Pinoy Nets on Feb 11, 2012 11:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can, if it means a lineup like this...
Deron-Farmar
Brooks-Morrow
MKG/Barnes-Bogdanovic
Lopez-pick (or Humphries if he takes less money)-J.Will
Howard-FA signing
I know.
Cause on ESPN they’re gonna be “Well, the Knicks are in the lead for Dwight” And I just cant stand ESPN, anymore.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 11, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Nets Daily,
lets not give Bill Simmons any more traffic. Its like linking to a tabloid, but worse cause a tabloid just exploits and twists information, Bill Simmons flat out makes it up—its his sensational opinion.
by Nets! on Feb 11, 2012 11:17 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Bill Simmons is a Yellow Journalist.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 11, 2012 11:17 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
OT
Ryan Anderson just got invited to the Three-Point Shootout at All-Star Weekend.
Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 11, 2012 11:19 AM EST reply actions
“MoneyMase: Good team win tonight. Brook Lopez is a good young talent, but man he needs a shower. Lol. He was stinkin the court up tonight!”
Lol.
When is that from, the preseason?
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 11, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Off Topic.
Budlight Goal Bar Section- Anyone here ever tried that section? Would you recommend it?
"Beware the Ides of March."
If I have to wait until July I think my head is going to explode
but I still firmly believe the Magic will trade Dwight.
Agreed.
They want something for Dwight, they’d rather get anyone than let him go for nothing. They would look like idiots if they passed on Lopez, Morrow/Brooks, and Lottery Picks.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 11, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
The owner has said that if Dwight does not rescind his trade request they will trade him
I don’t see how they can call his bluff. Every indication is that he’s going to leave..if they don’t get something in return that franchise is SCREWED for a very long time.
But the possibility of a complete team
In July is too good to pass up. The team won’t be gutted of talent and picks for the next 4 years.
by djeterfan on Feb 11, 2012 11:25 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
It's too good to be true honestly
and I think the Magic realize that our situation would be too good for Dwight to pass up. They will trade him.
I agree
Why let him walk when you could get at least something?
Even if it's this guy.....
…Well, maybe not.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 11, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Bill Simmons is pretty much the regular fan
He has a set opinion on teams and people, you’re not gonna change his mind on something until he sees it on the court or it’s ruled out. Before pimping Dwight to Chicago, it was LeBron to Chicago. He’s not exactly wrong that that would be the best choice for both Dwight and LeBron, but he’s colored by his insistence on it
by muwu on Feb 11, 2012 11:24 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
no,no,no,no,……dont give up,these are real tough time, is very easy to be a fan when things are going your way….our time would come, rigt now we dont have enough. lets be smart and do not make a trade to be just in the playoff.
In the mean time, players such as Jordan william should be getting more time,we are moving foward this is part of the journey,lets stick together.
This is what Dwight sees...
Which is to move to BK w/Dwill and be the face of one if not probably going to be te biggest market.. I’m pretty sure he’s told ppl that he would only sign with the nets… I’m also positive that he would like to play with ammo, swag, and Blo…
We now have the leverage… The magic will play out the season hoping to get a ring with Dwight while also knowing he would not re-sign with them… If and when he walks, the magic could then have a ton of cap space and start the rebuilding.
by VDUBFACTOR on Feb 11, 2012 11:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions
are you and DH boyz?
or are you DH? Well i see that Dwight could goto Dallas and be an instant contender with that team w/o Deron. Let’s hope DH and DWill are the boys everyone is making em out to be.
No but...
im just putting together everything I have been reading the past few months…
thats the thing
as these articles show, a lot of whats been coming out is sh** journalism. How do you know if any pro nets writers, who are usually regional around here, are saying Dwight to nets to drum up interest in the area. All im saying its not clear, its all convoluted. I want him to come here, god i do, but im willing to ante up that no one knows what hes really thinking or where he will go. I just don’t like how confident some ppl are here, to the point of poo pooing an entire fan base as “idiots”. That type of over arrogance usually leads to people being disappointed.
The one thing is certain
none of us have any idea what’s going on. I can see lakers getting desperate if they start losing a lot. The only way the nets would be good is if we signed howard as a FA. If we trade the farm for him, he’s walking into a garbage team. Or am i wrong, say all the “nets are winning 30 games” groupies
So what if the LAkers get desperate?
You honestly believe they haven’t already offered Pau and Bynum, or if they haven’t it isn’t because they know Dwight might leave in the offseason for us after they traded their guys?
And I honestly can’t even understand your last sentence.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 11, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think we can low-ball Orlando
Dwight’s people have already informed the Lakers he will NOT resign there, if traded to L.A for various obvious reasons.
Dallas DOES NOT have any good trading assets.
That leaves just us in the game. DH12 has already made it clear he wants Brooklyn & Dwill.
Depending on our record come the deadline, I’d tell them Lopez+ pick or Lopez+ Brooks…. not Brooks AND pick.
I think that is still fair. If they say no, then they get nothing come July. The Lakers ARE NOT GOING to risk losing Bynum for a 3 month rental. We are in the driving seat.
Make it happen Billy. work your magic
Clearly ORL doesnt want Lopez
so why even give them that.
If I was BKing, I would let them sweat it out until March 15. Then offer them Expiring and picks. That is it.
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If we're offering only picks and expirings
I can see teams trading for him as a rental.
by djeterfan on Feb 11, 2012 11:53 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
but Dallas could sign dwight outright
in the summer, so could the lakers. I think Dwight coming in the summer would be great for us, however im not gonna sit here and act like a bunch of gossip reporting by sports analysts make it certain he’s coming here
Sorry to burst your bubble
But the Lakers CAN’T sign neither Dwight nor Dwill in the summer. No cap space
Dallas can only get ONE unless they dump Marion and other contracts at the deadline.
the CBA had a provision
which allows players to extend and restructure their current deals, allowing for a less hit on the cap. You dont see a kobe, or a gasol, doing that or even a dirk, if they knew they’d have a chance at one more chip or two?
Nope.
Can’t restructure contracts from the old CBA.
LAL cannot clear enough cap, this is a fact, not opinion.
And Dallas cannot get close to max for both, this is a fact, not opinion.
Fact is Dwight’s max starts at $19 million and D Will’s at $17.2, Dallas can only clear about $30.5 million total in cap and it means they have gotten rid of every single player on their roster period besides Dirk including any and all 2012 1st round draft picks.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 11, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bad interpretation
You can’t restructure existing contracts. What this CBA allowed that the previous one did not is for extending at a lower salary, but it doesn’t effect existing salary.
Example: KG & Duncan makes $20+mil this year. Now way they get that on their next contract. However (if they chose to), their teams can sign them to an extension at a lower salary (say $14mil per year). Previously, a player’s salary could not go down in extended years.
Every Nets fan should hope for this to happen
Stop worrying if Dwill will leave because he MIGHT. Stop worrying if Dwight wont sign He might NOT sign.
The bottom line is regardless of what happens with Dwill and Dwight if there are NO TRADES we will have a team of
PG –
SG – Brooks
SF – MKG or Barnes
PF – Lopez/Jordan Will
C – ?
Most likely the Houston Pick to get another young player. We are going to Brooklyn with a NEW TEAM with NEW jerseys.
Dont let this NO BODY BS NBA REPORTERS diminish the above fact.
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The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!
ahha thats a depressing outlook
so we’d be hitting Brooklyn with 1.5 nba starters. Greaaaat. We’re all in. If we don’t get Dwight, we are fuuuuuuuu
as a die hard fan...
I’d still back the Nets and watch the young players grow. But for the Nets franchise going to Brooklyn…this would be DISASTER.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 11, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
by the way guys, we're still 8-20 after suffering a horrible loss and face the spurs tonight.
#netsnation
After switching to the Knicks game last night and watching the them play w/o Melo and Amare
NETS team should not be playing this bad. Something is out of whack. Too many TOs, loose balls, high risk passes, even with the injuries.
Their shooters are hitting shots and big men are finishing layups.
Unfortunately we haven’t had that luxury.
by djeterfan on Feb 11, 2012 11:59 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
what is dwight night?
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
Got to FanPosts and look for it, all the details are there.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 11, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Best thing for the NETS is to lock up Howard ASAP
Anything is possible
Howard can change his mind about the NETS.
Any team can make trades for expiring contracts and players by the deadline making it more desirable for Howard to join them this summer.
Knicks can may offer Melo which may be more appealing to Orlando.
The only advantage nets have a this moment is Howard’s desire to play in Brooklyn. He can always change his mind.
Nah, the best thing for the Nets is Dwight not being traded.
It couldn’t be more obvious.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 11, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
That's the safest option,
but if Dwight becomes free agent we are still the best option and we wouild strike gold contending right away.
2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!
Berger needs to stop; he reads Kyler's article yesterday in all likelihood then comes up with am opinion...
…which he’s entitled to, but wow, do people think Orlando will really let D12 walk w/o getting anything in return?
History Repeats Itself!!!!
Owner seems like a stubborn OLD Man.
I think they MAY let him walk then beg for a draft pick after public outrage.
Official member of the "DO NOT TRADE MARSHON "SWAG" BROOKS" Society!
The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!
could happen...but i think Devos was posturing...
…when he said they want to keep Dwight…and he’s hoping to gain leverage on the Nets. i think NJ has a little more leverage if Dwight continues to tell team he only wants a trade to NJ…if that’s what’s going on behind the scenes.
by Versifiervt on Feb 11, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Absolutely
It is still very possible that Dwight walks in FA. Could the trade still go down? Sure…. But when the trade deadline comes and Dwight tells Orlando that any team trying to trade for him he won’t sign with unless it’s the Nets their hands are going to be tied.
If Dwight really wants to be a Net and the Nets are his top choice i can’t help but to assume that he has discussed his options with Deron Williams, Billy King and all of his representatives. At this stage of the game, It’s safe to assume that Dwight already has a plan and it’s already in the works. He doesn’t want to go a gutted team. All he has to say is NO. If the Nets don’t want to wait they can lower their trade proposal, but again that’s all dependent on Howard and what he tells Orlando.
Yeah, I could see it actually.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Can the twitter fellas
twitter bomb bill simmons, he hates on this franchise way too much and gets away with it. I want him to think twice before he writes about us in the future. GO
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Your 2012-2013 Brooklyn Nets
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 11, 2012 11:55 AM EST reply actions 34 recs
I just hope that the Nets had a gentlemans agreement that this years contract is part of 2 more years of a home town discount
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 11, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
This would be an exciting team to watch!
You can have a dominant Center in the game at all times. Great 3 point scoring and rebounding off the bench. Young and very energetic. The best part is, we can keep them all as long as Proky will pay the luxury tax and im sure he will.
yessss
Brooklyn - D-Will - Swag - MKG - Lopez - D12
by JetsMetsNets on Feb 11, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Man, we even get courtney lee back!
Guy’s a star!!
by JohnFromLongIsland on Feb 11, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
NO PETRO?!?!?!
"Good pitching will always stop good hitting and vice-versa." -- Casey Stengel
by calling all toasters on Feb 11, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Unless he takes teh $2.5mil room exception
Hump is a goner. The rest looks nice though.
All of this Jeremy Lin stuff HAS to stop!
Yeah, I know the Knicks are on a 4-game winning streak and he is averging 28 PPG or whatever, but he is doing this without their Top-2 scorers (Melo and Stat) in. Let’s see what he can do when they both come back.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
once melo comes back his numbers will calm down
he will score about 10-15 a game once melo gets back..maybe even less
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by Keysta101 on Feb 11, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
Look, on the season he has 8 PPG, with Melo and Stat. So everyone (ESPN) needs to calm the hell down!
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 11, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
what we have to realize is the Nyk lacked a Pg. now they have it...
Anything can happen… NYK can be Force ! If they win it all… There is no way the Brooklyn can take over this city…
by kupalski on Feb 11, 2012 12:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's not even a 'True' PG
He’s more of a scoring PG, which won’t do good with the scoring Melo and Stat.
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 11, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
look at how the Knicks play w/o Melo and Amare. Look how at how many TO's, loose balls,
high risk passes they make. Then compare that with the way the NETS play. There should be no excuse for the way the NETS are playing, even with the injuries.
Really?!?!
You do realize we have scrubs for players except the injured ones and swag who cant catch a damn assist from Dwilll
thats ridiculous
Knicks are playing such good team ball right now. Jeremy Lin has ignited that young team. TO, loose balls, but they win. And they are having fun. You see Deron galvanizing anyone? he yells at our players, i get he doesn’t like losing, but please, what the knicks are doing right now is rather impressive. I wish we had that
this has been the best story in the nba...
BY FAR. Wish he wasn’t on the Knicks, but it’s hard to root against this guy.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 11, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
This Lin stuff is awesome! It’s a great story. It would be interesting if the Knicks could actually get Amare and Melo to play well… they could be a force.
Lin
Shumpert (going to be a good defender/athletic SG)
Melo (All-Star)
Amare (All-Star)
Tyson (who is their best player)
If, and this might not be possible, but if Melo could play within himself and not be a ball-stopper this Knicks team can do a lot of good things. Too bad Melo is a selfish idiot…he was one of my favorite players at Syracuse.
What would be awesome is if the Nets got Dwight Howard…next year it might be a legitimate rivalry…right now not so much
i'm not going crazy yet on Lin
is he a lot better than expected? Of course, but it’s a perfect storm with Melo and Amar’e out, plus, the biggest thing for me, look at the way he’s been defended. He’ll simmer down when not playing awful defenses or a tired defense like the Lakers last night
I'm of that opinion
The media blows this stuff way out of proportion.
I saw Knicks fans do the same thing with Nate Robinson…
I saw the Knicks say that Channing Frye was going to be one of the best power forwards in the league.
They did the same thing with Wilson Chandler (Kobe) and Danilo (Dirk)
To a lesser extent we saw some of this with Landry Fields (ROY! ROY!) and even early this year with Iman….
So yeah. This is completely blown out of proportion. What I think is more important is that maybe Melo will realize (as I think he was starting to) that being a ball-stopper is not going to work, and if this Knicks team can get their act together, I see a good team.
you know, i am starting to worry about the Knicks
Even with Lin. Because it looks as if Melo and Amar’e just don’t suit eachother basketball wise, and unfortunately what they both have in common is servicable at best defense. The heat had their issues with chemistry early on and still do to a certain extent, but that team defended from DAY 1. I really am speaking unbiased, but i do think the smart knick fan is worried about how they’ve commited to this core for a long time. Some may perceive the knicks as ahead in the rebuilding process, but sometimes you have to sit back and really examine what can and can’t be.
If we were to land the #1 Pick..would anyone do this?
Take Anthony Davis, trade Brook Lopez for Iguadala.
Dwill
Brooks
Iggy
Davis
Howard
….just a thought since billy king has close ties with his old organization, iggy trade rumors have occured in the past, spencer hawes isnt exactly a top notch center. again, just a thought. curious on what you guys think.
People bash me for this but i can't shy away from my opinion on Iggy.
Overrated. Take a look at his numbers…. he isn’t the same scorer he used to be. He doesn’t deserve to be an All Star this year either. The only way i would take Iggy is if he took a big pay cut. The man gets paid like he’s a superstar but plays like an average starter. Don’t get me wrong, he’s good…. but he’s not the superstar everyone thinks he is.
But his team is doing better
In years past, he was the go-to scorer, now they have a balanced attack. He is also a tremendous defender, and shooting the three better than ever.
Theoretically, if we retained Deron, Howard, Brooks, and drafted Davis...
Would we really need Iggy to be a scorer? We would have plenty of scoring. However, an athletic ball moving elite defensive stopper like Iggy would fit like a glove.
by J-Nasty on Feb 11, 2012 4:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he's not a primary scorer. i mean he can be on less talented teams
but that’s not his primary value as a player. He’s a very good defender who’s also versatile, and he can handle the ball for you in spots here and there. Iggy is a very solid player especially in the right situation. If the nets could get howard and put Iguodala at the 3 i’m sure they’d be ecstatic
The Nets are going to pull a 2k !
Get a good pick, have two rookies on rookies contracts then 3 guys on huge contracts yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
give me an example
of any NBA star who has an expiring contract that has said they will stay with their current team
Wade stayed in Miami because he recruited Bosh and Lebron
If they didn’t come he was leaving. He was shopping around too if memory serves me correct.
Too simplistic way to look at it.
That Big 3 in Miami was conspired for 2 seasons before it happened, it’s not like they went into the 2010 offseason with Wade crossing his fingers hoping to convince them.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 11, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
you know how the magic owner is
very old, he prolly just wants to go for the playoffs just one last time with D12. I really really really just hate the damn suspense of everything. Trade deadline could not come any sooner…
One of the main reasons why I watch the Nets games this season, is because im hoping Dwill and brooks dont hrt themselves…
Happy Birthday Swag's Mom!
Marshon Brooks
Happy bday mom, got the Spurs at 8 et!!!
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
When we play the Magic on the 22nd..
I wanna hear “Wait till Summer” chants.
by cody1234 on Feb 11, 2012 12:06 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
You know what irks me
is the MVP chant in duh gahden for Lin.. and the stupid nick names
You know what's sad...
On the Nets facebook page, we have 167,000 and the Knicks, they have over 1,000,000. That’s sad.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 11, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
The loudest I ever heard the rock..
was when I went to the Nets vs Clippers game last year on March 11th, i think. We won without Deron.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 11, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Was it that loud? I don't even remember it being that full.
Then again, we overcame an ugly deficit.
Yeah, the rock was rockin'!
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 11, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
The YES network is part of the NETS problem. YES offers abosultely no NETS programming
other than the NETS magazine and games. MSG if fully behind the Knicks and puts a lot of programming into its marketing.
4 good games without Melo and Stat and everyone jumps on the bandwagon
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 11, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
hahahah .... I hate the NIX dude, and I don't care for this dudes success, but it hurts that he's with the NIX.
And if you think it’s not a big deal talent wise, it is definitely a big blow market-wise. The dude will attract every Asian and its mother.
We need to have a big splash as we move on to Brooklyn. Hopefully it’s D12 and Co.
back to the topic...concerning Dallas...haven't heard #4 before...
Dallas? A reassessment of the Mavs’ cap situation after they signed Vince Carter reveals that they will not be able to clear enough room for two max players, as in Williams and Howard. The most room Dallas could possibly have is $29.4 million, according to league salary sheets. To do it, they would have to: 1) amnesty Brendan Haywood; 2) trade Shawn Marion; 3) waive Brandan Wright and Sean Williams; and 4), the kicker, trade Lamar Odom and Carter by March 15 for expiring contracts. Even then, they would be about $3 million shy of offering Howard and Williams max deals.
yes, but...
can you really see Dallas dumping players at the deadline? Marion, Odom, Carter. Dallas is a 4 seed right now and defending champions…no team has ever given up on the season at the trade deadline in that position..
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 11, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
They have no guarantee they will get him, so it is not for a top 3 player it is for the chance at him
plus what is the likelihood they could even pull it off?
by SovietBrooklyn on Feb 11, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
$3M is chump change for Howard and Dwill. If they really want to play in dallas, together, they
would sign slightly less than max. contract
They have to get rid of EVERYBODY besides Dirk to have about $30.5 in cap.
That means no 2012 1st.
No Beaubois.
No Odom.
No Marion.
No Carter.
No Terry.
No Dominique Jones.
No Brandan Wright.
And still almost $6 million away from true max for each.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 11, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Please Stop with DH12 talk
Tired of all this nonsense. Can we talk about how we r going to win tonight or the next game?? Enough of these super star trades. Teams win championships not stars.
by NetsYankee on Feb 11, 2012 12:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
how we are going to win? lol
too many injuries to key players, not enough practice to build chemistry and D-league talent across the board.
Talking about the future is much funner
Is Dwill da super star PG injured???
We can win games if we try to win. Looks like no one is interested in winning here. Everyone is just interested in talking about rosy future.
by NetsYankee on Feb 11, 2012 12:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, you know why?
The present sucks.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 11, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Haven't we learned anything in last few years
Simple principle of life and it applies everywhere. Present is what that matters. u can’t neglect present for future. I m very sure the team must be playing better if there were no trade clouds every year.
by NetsYankee on Feb 11, 2012 12:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Teams with worst roster than ours r winning n playing decent ball.
by NetsYankee on Feb 11, 2012 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
pistons have a better roster then us and are a better team, they will finish with a better record then the nets, book it.
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 11, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Look
We could complain all we can but if there is a will there is a way. If we can beat Philly in Philly that means we can win some games if we try.
by NetsYankee on Feb 11, 2012 12:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
oh yeah we can win some games but we will lose about 8 times for every one win.
philly game was a fluke, those things happen in a long year, you cant get caught up with oh we beat philly! and then lose to ten teams that are worse then them
by Andrew Flynn on Feb 11, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
its about 1 thing
putting together a roster that can compete for rings. if that means slight setback in present, u do it. thunder and heat: worst 2 recors in nba in 2008
but thats most teams
bulls 33-49 that yr, hawks consistently awful b4 08, boston worst in nba in 07, magic b4 howard awful, clips every1 knows how bad, etc.
in the nba u need to have roster flex to acquire big name talent. that requires sucking b4 getting good. this year, is that.
by jsalkin1 on Feb 11, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It should be...
…“Likely D12 Moves in with D-Will by July”
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 11, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Don't like it?
Don’t read it. Don’t comment.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 11, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Dude we got pooed on by Detroit 2 games straight
We don’t have a chance against RJ and the Spurs tonight, all we have is our future to look forward to.
except it's not RJ and the spurs...
it’s Parker, Duncan, and Ginobili…and the Spurs
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 11, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
i agree...
a future we’re well set for roster flex wise
Can we talk about how we r going to win tonight or the next game??
Maybe one of these guys can help
At Center
Brook Lopez- No he is 2 weeks away
Memut Okur – No only god knows when he will be back
Johan Sheldon Williams- Better suited for the bench
Petro – Wish he was the one hurt
At PF
Kris Humpries – OK you can help
Jordan Williams – OK you can help but not much
At SF
Damion James- Wasnt that good but he was the best availible SF
Deshawn Stevenson- Oh your old and rickity
Keith Bogans – Ive had chicken last in the freezer longer then this guy was a Net
Shawne Williams – This guy has been making Petro look good
At SG
Marshon Brooks – Probably should be held out for another week. Not 100%
Anthony Morrow – OK you can help
At PG
Deron Williams – OK you can help
Jordan Farmar – Scoring has been great but passing has been a problem. OK you can help
Sundiata Gaines – Would like you alot better if you were 4 inches taller and played SG. But you have played pretty well. OK you can Help
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 11, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
if everyone wasnt out for the season or needed a major surgery the roster would be playoff-possible
but this is like some rite of passage for Nets fans if they are truly destined to get Dwight Howard
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 11, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Teams win championships not stars.
Nah, actually stars win. Every time. Except for the Pistons and even they had 4 legit stars in the starting lineup even if no superstar.
by vincecarter4pres on Feb 11, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
i think is the Nets preferred plan unless the Magic back down of their stubborn(but understandable) stance to keep Dwight all year
but they arent going to admit it because 1st they want Dwight ASAP but if we knew this was their intention to stall out then who would watch this team this season with all the injuries and such?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 11, 2012 12:21 PM EST reply actions
The past 3 games I have to admit I did not watch fully watch the games
I watched all the games of that 12 win season, and I have watched 99% of games since 2000. Something about this group just disgusts me… no heart, no effort.
Its the lazy passes, late defensive rotations, deflected plasses, high risk passes
that noone can catch. All self inflicted.
Since when has Bill Simmons made any sort of (breaking) news? Or rumors for that matter?
I hope he realizes he is the only one who has sources like his.
I think it's fine.
That would likely be because he is a Boston sports fan.
He has never had anything good to say about anyone outside of Boston, Massachusetts.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 11, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Ever wonder why fans of other teams get all mad when Dwight wants to team with Deron? They say they will never win a championship and he should go to LA..but why would they want another championship team in LA?
Wouldnt they rather him go to Brooklyn? Noooo because Deron and Dwight is a lethal combo
I'm just saying
the Nets getting Dwight Howard in free agency would factually be the best thing to ever happen.
I think it's fine.
This is why it isn't going to happen
the Magic KNOW how amazing that situation would be…Dwight would sign here in a heartbeat.
I really wish I believed the Magic won’t trade him, but I’d say its 90% likely they will.
I agree.
Not sure about that percentage, but I do agree that he will be traded.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 11, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I don't
Devos gave the go ahead to trade Dwight if he didn’t pull back his trade request..people forget this.
All this talk you are reading in the media from Devos/Smith etc. is last ditch efforts to try and convince him to stay. Come March 15th when the pressure is really on and the Nets make a good offer, which they will, the Magic will bite or watch their franchise sink into the abyss.
You the big picture guys
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by netsareboss on Feb 11, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
lol at dwight howard
Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...
by D-Will2Nets on Feb 11, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
*You know the big picture guys
didnt even realize that mistake lol
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i think Derons shoulder has a tumor
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
that's just lopez's money maker
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Feb 11, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Funniest thing ever.
Just LOL’d at work. Had to sign just to give props lol.
by PariseLikeSundayMornin on Feb 11, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
There is really no scenario I see
where the Magic don’t deal him. It’s really inevitable. But I think they’ll be able to retain Brooks from the deal. Magic put themselves in a corner, they lost all there leverage. Nets are in the driver’s seat.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Feb 11, 2012 12:40 PM EST reply actions
the biggest reason dwight and deron want to team up in BK is
that they want to start history, not be a part of another team’s history
THIS!^
new team and a new arena, what more can you ask for? a big market… nice!
2-8 at the start of the season was because of
Gaines
Deron
James
Hump
Petro
that lineup was pathetic
You have to at least give him a ahcnace with real taelnt but..
One thing that really bothers me about this team is the lack of movement on offense. Everything is ISO and standing around watching .
I dont care if you have an all-star team or D-Leaguers, moving without the ball is Basketball 101.
one thing i dont understand is when both of our big men set picks at the same time!
is this a mistake or are they purposely doing this? atleast hump rolls after the pick, our bigs usually block deron from going to the basket
purposely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zJaWSDZ16U;
morrow’s in the corner
hump at the free throw line
she-will or j-will rolling
So once I think "oh sweet this thing is going to end in a few weeks!"
now it’s another few months! I just want this to end
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If he comes in July its 20x better
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I think this shows even if the trade deadline comes Billy will play hardball
If Orl does decide to move him, BK wont offer much. Probably that original deal of brook and a pick, okur and probaby another team involved. If not he’ll just walk away and sign him out right in july.
by 1stnamelastname on Feb 11, 2012 1:37 PM EST reply actions
we need to win games because the situation that will feel the best is trading for dwight,
winning games, knocking the knicks out of the playoffs and upset in the first round. but this is just a fantasy
Best option!!!!
Anyone who cant wait until this dismal season is over to assemble one of the top teams in the league is insane!!
Orl would be stupid to not trade Dwight on 2 fronts. 1 they get nothing back in return to start a rebuilding process and 2) they will be aiding in turning the Nets into a dominant force in the league that they will have to deal with 4 times a year.
Deron
Brooks
sf or draft pick
Lopez
Dwight
You will be giving King too many options to turn this into a powerhouse. Thats a finals team especially if you add a Vet like Stephen Jackson to come off the bench and provide some leadership and toughness. Bring back Stevenson also!
Deron would avg 15+ assists off of lobs to Dwight and Mkg and pick and pops with Lopez, how many times would Brooks get in the lane and drop off passes for easy dunks.
I love it...
The question is do Nets fans have the patience to wait it out? I think Dwight through free agency is the right move, however I think the Nets will push to get a trade done so they can go into Brooklyn with the momentum starting
I hate mid season trades
It mess up the whole season. Can we just make a rule no big mid season trade. Let’s just assume no dh12 via trade. If he comes in July great if not lets build through draft n sign some other players.
by NetsYankee on Feb 11, 2012 2:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I'd hate for something to mess up this amazing season?
building through the draft went out the window when we traded for Deron. It’s Dwight by any means necessary, and hopefully that is through free agency
by SovietBrooklyn on Feb 11, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
You know the worst thing happened yesterday
while we were kicked in the butt by Pistons? Worse is not the lost but Petro scoring 16 points. Do you know what that means. Now he probably will be in rotation at the expense of JWill. Yesterday was a double whammy.
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I have been thinking this for the a while now
Orlando is so juvenile, they want their cake and to eat it also. They donr want to part with dwight, but don’t want Shaq 2.0.
what?
Why is that “but” there? Shaq 1.0 was him parting with the team. lol what a non sequitor.
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
Why didn't any quality FA's want to play along side Dwight in Orlando?
ORL proved they’ll throw money at guys who don’t deserve it, why not guys that actually do?
Our founding fathers knew what was up
by SovietBrooklyn on Feb 11, 2012 3:03 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
trade, free agency, abduction
JUST GET DWIGHT!
Question for anyone willing to answer:
How short will Avery’s leash once this teams roster is set?
On one hand, we could have two super stars and a handful of all-star possibles/ solid role players… On the other hand, we could have whatever fallout remains after trading deron. Either way, this team will need W’s in Brooklyn or heads will roll
if we get Dwight, i'd imagine hed get the rest of this season
and the first month of next season at a minimum
IF we get Howard before the All-Star break, through the end of this month. Otherwise through the end of this season.
Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 11, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
You think theyd fire Avery and bring in a new coach for BK?
“you don’t change horses mid stream”
-Wag te Dog
Are you @KillaKadafi returned?
Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 11, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
OT: just left my accountant's office and I learned a new word:
SWAG = Sophisticated Wild Ass Guess.
I told him it meant something different to my generation. I told him I thought he was talking about MarShon Brooks, and he said “unless you’re claiming him as a dependent, then he’s not helping you.”
LOL clearly your accountant doesn't know how helpful Brooks can be
by JohnFromLongIsland on Feb 11, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Dallas
Any Net fan who does not think there is a good chance of DWill bolting after this mess this year, is drinking Kool-aid. I have been to a bunch of games at the Rock and his body language says I am checked out. Even on TV you can see it. B/C Dallas has made the least noise, I fear them the most. They will figure out a way to get DWill and maybe even DWight. Home.
Lebron just kind of snuck out of town b/c he is like that in 4th quarters too
Melo forced his way out b/c he is like that with the ball too
And Dwight is on the fence does not want to hurt anyone, who knows what will happen
But DWill looks like the type who will do what Lebron did and blame it on the team not being competitive, and I hate losing and I tried and blah, blah, blah.
But Nets fans be real: he could bolt and I personally would think long and hard if I were him. There is only losing here.
This season does not matter. Not one single game.
He’s paying his dues. He’s going through the motions. He sees a Dwight at the end of this tunnel.
pretty much. I'd be shocked though if this got to free agency
People who actually buy this smokescreen of the Magic letting him walk as a free agent are very very gullible.
For the nets, the lock out never ended.
In their minds and in mine. Total rebirth in Brooklyn just over the horizon. Buy the ticket, take the ride
It does matter
The more we lose the closer we get to uniting two eyebrows into one.
Based on D-Will's comments after last nights game, there is no reason for him to resign unless Howard is here.
Deron Williams seemed exasperated after Friday’s miserable loss to the Pistons, which dropped the Nets to 8-20 on the season.
“This was bad,” said Williams. “It was one of our worst ones of the season. Down 30 points. Not much effort, not much fight … It’s the same ol’ story every game.” It’s hard to imagine D-Will re-signing with the franchise unless they do manage to land Dwight Howard, and as the losses pile up the pressure continues to build.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
Lol rotoworld
these games DON’T matter, as hard as they are to stomach.
Dwight is coming..eventually.
Yeah
I get super frustrated watching the Nets play “basketball”, if that’s what you want to call it, this year…but Dwight is coming.
It would be great if he came in the summer, but it will likely be at the deadline.
Beggars can't be choosers
But getting upset about meaningless games doesn’t serve any purpose. In most years, regular season games don’t matter. In this year, they might as well have just started at the trade deadline.
Whether or not we get Dwight, no one thinks this current roster will remain the same. The way I see it, we’ll have deron and Dwight, or neither. Everyone and anyone else is simply trade fodder. I hate it but so be it.
One crazy season ... there will be so many unforeseen stuff that you never know what will happen. Let's hope Nets are done with their share ...
bq.WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Anderson Varejao has suffered a fractured wrist, an MRI reveals. Tough blow for Cavs and him. Many teams had been anxious to trade for him.
I can't believe some people here would prefer passing on Anthony Davis if we got the #1 pick and draft a SF to fill a need instead
Ask The Detroit Pistons how that philosophy worked out with Darko.
orlando will look foolish if they dont get anything
Remember what we offered them in the start of the season
by Pure baller15 on Feb 11, 2012 5:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Words for thought
Let’s say D12 makes it to FA and he end up signing him, will we be able to sign Gerald Wallace in FA was well?
DWill
Marshon
Wallace
Lopez
Dwight
UNREAL!
i doubt this could happen
best case is we get a mkg in the draft
i highly doubt thats gonna happen?
i think the magics owner needs a brain scan cuz he needs to realize dwight wants out he wants what all nba stars want (big market team) and addition to the big market team a good pg if dwight isnt traded by march 15th the owner migth have a heart attact
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