Doing the Dwight Howard Math
by Net Income on Feb 10, 2012 3:40 PM EST
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PrintHoopsWorld's Steve Kyler, with an assist from Larry Coon, tries to dis-spell various "myths" about Dwight Howard's options, before and after the trade deadline.
He looks at how much Howard would really leave on the table as a free agent; when is the optimum time for him to leave Orlando; even how much taxes he would have to pay (and whether there is that much of a disparity).
Bottom line for Kyler is "no one, including the Orlando Magic, has the details entirely right. It’s becoming clear that the Orlando Magic may not have as firm a grasp on their situation as they believe. Either that or they are deliberately putting out false information which wouldn’t be a stretch either."
- NBA AM: Setting It Straight On Howard’s Options - Steve Kyler - HoopsWorld
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I was happy Kyler did this
Because he was SO misinformed in his chat. He didn’t know ANYTHING about the math and bird rights.
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Bottom line: He's getting traded.
The Magic would be bat**** crazy not to trade him because he really wouldn’t be leaving “$30 mil” on the table.
Let's hope they don't have calculators in Orlando
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Bad news, everyone. This photo was taken in Otis Smith's office.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 10, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
How bout this math
Deron + Dwight = Championship
by Legendairy on Feb 10, 2012 3:45 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
You forgot to subtract Petro and carry the Brooks
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by eLonepb on Feb 10, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 24 recs
Brooks doesn't need to be carried
he carries the team
by Scooby803 on Feb 10, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 15 recs
Its annoying that they think they can keep Hoawrd the entire season and THEN expect us to give them our picks and players in the summer
Howard should just walk if that happens
heres some math that dwight knows
deron + dwight = 2 seed
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 10, 2012 3:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
After reading this article,
I am pretty sure the Killa Bs knew this for awhile now.
BKing will be playing hardball with ORL. All ORL might get is expiring and picks.
Lopez and Brooks might not be any ORL – NETs trade equations.
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The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!
yup
so does Fegan
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Like I have been saying...
All along is that trades do not happen overnight. Regardless of how we are getting D12 he’s either in cahoots with Dwill or he already knows he will get traded… Isn’t funny how brooks and blo all of a sudden are injured? Hmmm
by VDUBFACTOR on Feb 10, 2012 5:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Completely off topic but
I just got an email from nbastore.com intited, “Get you Jeremy Lin Jerseys.” THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!!!
I never root for the Lakers but my god do I hope they put that little turd and all his fan boys in their places.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
3 games against 3 of the worst defenses
i think it’s safe to say that not only are knick fans delusional, but the media is SUPER BIAS
by domininaldo1981 on Feb 10, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
It really is getting ridiculous
Some Knick fans I know are trying to tell me he’s a top 5 PG. One even tried to convince me that he may be in the MVP discussion right now. Apparently, Knick fans don’t realize he only played 3 games (big minutes) for them…
by dwill8brooklynbound on Feb 10, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
seriously!!! i don't even want to check my twitter cause every 5 minutes theres a new writer posting
a new Lin Story…its been 3 games against bad defensive teams…who had never seen him before!!! first it was Fields last year, then Shumpert this year..and now Lin? its just ridicuolous. i hate the lakers but i hope they cut that shrimp down to size tonight.
by Prokyswallet on Feb 10, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Not just Knick fans its disgusting to me I stopped listening to 1050
Thats the last I will speak of him, comparing him to Kobe smh.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
don't see a problem with it
just trying to make some money off of him
i'm asian...
and so are most of my friends… and I find it very annoying seeing my friends become knick “fans” and posting on facebook about lin this and lin that… never knew they followed basketball to begin with…
screw the Knicks and they're overrated little guard
This a nets site.
by i says on Feb 10, 2012 5:44 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Nets are in the news every day with Dwight Howard
The Knicks, they’re terribly misinformed fans, and anyone who stands to make a dollar off the Knicks is feeling left out.
We were fighting over the same player, but since then our two teams’ trajectories could not be more opposing
Off topic indeed.
Want to cry, go cry in a corner, please.
Let me try Math
Shawne Williams + Johan petro = error?
by fabol0us16 on Feb 10, 2012 3:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
My calculator
Broke after putting that equation in
by fabol0us16 on Feb 10, 2012 4:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha
Mine was missing the buttons
by MetsNetsGiants on Feb 10, 2012 5:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't see Lin
going down the lane and scoring over Gasol and Bynum much tonight, Bynum may knock him into the upper deck if he tries to go down there :D
Your insane
The league is loving this. Finally they have someone to market to the Chinese media, They are making so much money off this kid right now. I wouldnt be surprised if Jeremy Lin lives at the foul line tonight.
Marshon VS Iman: Bring the rivalry on my nuiikkkass!!!
how so?
He’s not from China, nor is his family.
Chinese TV is picking up Knicks games
Chinese media embracing him, even if he is not embracing PRC.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Bingo.
The NBA posted a link to buy a Lin jersey with the caption “Linsanity!”. There were hundreds of comments from people that could easily be divided into 3 categories: Knicks fans who are delusional (One person called Lin “The next John Stockton”). People who are already sick of hearing his name because he has not done nearly enough to warrant this attention, and finally, People of Asian descent from all around the world who are already tearing down their Yao Ming posters to make room for the Jeremy Lin ones. This is a gold mine for the NBA and they know it. Don’t be surprised if Jeremy Lin is voted into the All-star game as a starter next season.
I just hope
In the end, (not a statistical average of 3 games only) that he earns his place and not solely because of his marketting value overseas.
It’s Ironic but I DO support and like Jeremy Lin. I don’t think he’s the next great thing but I do believe he has a role as a permanent point guard in the NBA. Somewhere along the lines of a team that doesn’t need a STAR point guard or a backup to say a team that HAS a star point guard.
but I want him to earn it. It’s not like Yao Ming or Yi who came from china. he is an American who HAPPENs to be asian. Dude barely speaks any Mandarin.
I agree. None of this is his fault. All he has done is worked hard enough to get this opportunity and now he's making the most out of it.
The Knicks will get rid of him to make room for an overpaid player who was a star years ago and has next to nothing left in the tank. That’s their MO. I bet they’ve been courting Brandon Roy HARD lol
Salty.
Why do Nets have to talk when we lost? We Laker fans now, hiding behind Lakers to beat Lin/Knicks?
Should be ashamed.
I think this is somewhere in between the Melo and the LeBron situation
Cleveland knew LeBron was leaving…the Heat still sent Cleveland two first-round draft picks and two second-round picks, as well as a large trade exception
Then think of that crazy 3-team trade the Knicks pulled for Melo.
Our situation falls somewhere in between.
It would be cool to not give up our first round pick (really just to sign Dwight in the off-season) but if a trade happens, that seems unlikely, even if Orlando knows he’s gone and the Nets know he’s coming.
theres one thing i disagree from that article
when he says he’ll get paid that 5th year with a new contract from the new team…um hes no longer going to be in his prime 4 years from now, his new contract 4 years from now will not be paying him nearly as much. So yes hes still leaving quite a lot on the table.
He'll be 30.
I’m sure he’ll get paid again.
a 30 year old center in his 12th season is not going to get anywhere near the max.
by Prokyswallet on Feb 10, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
There is no way you can say that.
If he stays healthy and posts a double double every night, he will get paid.
Look at Chandlers contract
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
your right...if a team was dumb enough to give chandler the max then i guess Dwight will get his too
by Prokyswallet on Feb 10, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
the Knicks overpaid chandler
They still suck despite a major signing
by i says on Feb 10, 2012 5:47 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
just like the unathletic Shaq
didn’t get offered a max extension when traded to the Heat?
Garnett & Duncan say hi
If he’s really worried about not getting a full max contract at age 30, he could sign an extension after 2 years.
Of course, with the logic you’re using, maybe he has all the more incentive to opt for an even shorter (3 year) deal. Then he can hit free agency at age 29 instead of the perceived over the hill age of 30.
no. no. no .no. NO!
30 years old is basically about 16 years before Kareem Abdul Jabbar retired. Dwight Howard will be VERY effective until about 36-38 years old, so any discussion of his declining value NOW is beyond absurd.
JUMP ON IT, BK! (either now or in the off-season). Just don’t let him slip away.
If there was no Dwight Howard situation, would anyone trade MarShon for Wes Johnson and Martell Webster?
Nope
He’s better than both those players as it is, I’m hesitant about giving him up in the Dwight deal but willing if it gets the deal done.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
i still
think they end up with brook, brooks and okur maybe a future 1st or 2
i think they play hardball when it comes to taking on hedos contract… we may have to take back Jrich instead
It's either Brooks, picks, or cap relief
Orlando doesn’t have much leverage, they shouldn’t get all 3. I don’t mind losing Brooks and picks so much if we still have some cap room to work with this summer
the nets
cant afford to let this go to FA, Free agency is about 5 months away which is plenty of time for Dwight to change his mind again.
remember
a bird in the hand is always worth more then 2 in the bush
I’m gonna disagree… its assumed that Deron and Dwight have talked. Deron is practically the GM. Deron knows he needs help, if we weren’t in the Dwight sweepstakes why wouldn’t we be making any other moves? Why hasn’t any other rumors come up? Instead we just keep on picking up people who aren’t teams. Its simple, Deron knows what Dwight is thinking. He is as good as ours.
Enough with the trade scenarios! Just make it happen! This team is hard to watch!
by J_sohard on Feb 10, 2012 4:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
take 2 of the top 3 players off of any team
and they’ll be hard to watch
by Murse Mike on Feb 10, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
oh damn
well theyre better without their top 2 players (weird)
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Bill Simmons
Continues to post defiant remarks about both Deron and Dwight’s future.
Re: Deron to Dallas this summer
“We’re all supposed to pretend this might not happen even though it’s a bigger summer lock than Michael Phelps winning a gold medal. I haven’t talked to one person “In the Know” who isn’t 100 percent convinced that Dallas is getting him. But let’s all keep pretending this isn’t true."
Illogical
Then why is everyone “in the know” saying Dwight to New Jersey?
Both can’t be true
Yeah, b/c Dirk is still very young and will continue to improve over the next 5 years
while Brook Lopez, MarShon Brooks, Anthony Morrow, high draft picks, and max cap space are all worthless. We might as well trade all of them for someone’s 15th man
Bill Simmons:
-fun to read (until you get tired of his shtick)
-is an idiot.
Just look at what he said about Dwight leaving 30 million on the table…completely out of context and if he was a reporter I would just say blatantly lying, but because he is a “fan” (AKA: idiot) he can say what he wants to a national audience.
Wants Anderson Vareao as an all-star STARTER.
He called Marc Gasol the league’s “best all-around center”
I don’t want to go through the whole article again, so I’ll leave it there. No reason to take ANYTHING he says seriously. I kind of think he actually doesn’t watch nearly as much basketball as he lets on.
fixed
I haven’t talked to one person"In the Know" who isn’t 100 percent convinced that Dallas is getting him.
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by Taylor Made on Feb 10, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
all of us nets fans will dismiss the idea
Bust if we don’t get Dwight then that’s what will happen.
by i says on Feb 10, 2012 5:50 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
You can't really give up too much for Dwight
Short term, it might take awhile to adjust if you give up too many pieces. But a team built around D12 and D-Will is going to become an elite team for a long time.
Well can you explain why the knicks are winning??? Amare and Carmelo are out!
by J_sohard on Feb 10, 2012 4:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The nets can’t even beat the pistons! Come on we are talking about the pistons!!! really!!!
by J_sohard on Feb 10, 2012 4:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The nets can’t even beat the pistons! Come on we are talking about the pistons!!! really!!!
by J_sohard on Feb 10, 2012 4:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
well they are missing 3 starters and some bench players
But, I was at the game Wednesday and was disgusted by the effort. I can’t watch a game for a little while.
by Rodney Buford on Feb 10, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
After being at the toronto game...
Its hard for me to get motivated to go.
I may change my mind in a couple weeks.
by BKNfastbreak on Feb 10, 2012 4:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jeremy Lin hype
Is exactly what the Nets were hoping for when they traded for Yi.
by djeterfan on Feb 10, 2012 4:38 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I disagree with it.
But the media is running with it. All I’m saying is Nets had asian marketing in mind when they traded for Yi
by djeterfan on Feb 10, 2012 5:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Breaking News:
Nets sign Chair’s cousin for rest of season…
His friends call him Stretch…
by M I K E on Feb 10, 2012 4:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
If he can play 3 im ok with it
ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE
by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 4:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Is he able to start tonight
I dont know his stats but I know he is better than Petro
Lopez: "I'll stop being lazy and go after every rebound"
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by cedaghost on Feb 10, 2012 4:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
My Knicks friend was rooting for us the other night to beat them, just for this guy to get fired.
by Rodney Buford on Feb 10, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty ironic...Nets might of saved Mike D's job...
If Lin didn’t play so well against us…Knicks might of axed him.
You do all realize
this also means that if for whatever reason we don’t get Dwight and can’t sign ANYONE to keep Deron Williams from leaving….he’ll leave as well. That means DWill isn’t leaving 20+ million on the books either, realistically at 30 years of age he’ll easily get paid another max contract.
the only thing holding Dwill and possibly Dwight to Brooklyn? Marketing contracts. It may be cheaper to live in Florida against the tax rate, but you’re not going to get the same marketing contracts in Brooklyn/NYC as you will in Orlando. hell not even Miami.
by Roccor420 on Feb 10, 2012 4:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
read the comments in the article
the whole state taxes thing is totally overblown as well, since players play state taxes to whatever state they play in. So if Dwight plays for the Magic in NY, he pays NY state taxes. I’m sure the extra large market will more than make up for the difference
Plus you have a rich Russian Billionaire owner...
who don’t always plays by the rules…
If Prokhorov tells Deron and Dwight their future with the Nets is assured and he wants them to retire as Nets…wink, wink.
We need to get Dwight
I am jealous of the Clippers, they were able to put a contedor around Paul…we need better players next year…if we dont get Dwight I will blame this on King who had the chance to put players around Deron.
I don't thinkt that the Clippers are real contenders
They have a lot of holes in their lineup and real chemistry issues, like the fact that Blake Griffen and DeAndre Jordan are both useless outside of 12 ft, meaning that they are playing 4 on 5 on offense
agree..
theyre not contenders. No half court game. Plus Del Negro is terrible.
by 1stnamelastname on Feb 10, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
we are coming to get you
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Feb 10, 2012 4:55 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
That's the spirit NI
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by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 4:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i'm curious
where did you get this pic? Like what is this picture actually of with context?
Saudi commandos
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
If someone else posted this it would get flagged.
What does this have to do with basketball or the Nets? Blackface is considered highly offensive to some people, reguardless of the content
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Im just being sracastic for those who cant tell
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
its funny cuz NI posted it lol
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The guy on the left looks like
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. I just received this email from the nbastore.com
Headline: " Knicks Fans: Get Your Jeremy Lin Jersey and More + Free Shipping"
I can’t believe how much hype this guy is getting for 3 games that he has played. This New York media is sickening.
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by D Will to Succeed on Feb 10, 2012 5:02 PM EST reply actions
$54.99 to much
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by D Will to Succeed on Feb 10, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Lin is a FA. What better way to screw the Knicks then sign him.
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Heres the scouting report...
Make him shoot jumpers.
There is NO way the Lakers let him go off.
If he begins to score or make plays, guaranteed either MWP, Bynum, or Barnes puts him on his back
Kobe won't let him
He’d personally stop him if he has too
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Lin-Sanity dosen't compare to..
..Vin-Sanity
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 10, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
This what angers me about "Linsanity"
dont be stealing Vince’s name bro. He’s not even half as good as VC
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I know the only reason he has 25.0 PPG or whatever is cause Melo has been out and SOMEONE needs to pick up the scoring.
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 10, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
No, the only reason he did so well the last few games
is b/c he hasn’t played all year and has fresh legs
LOL, Vinsanity was created in Toronto, now it's in Dallas.
That train has left the station… let it go.
Sussman just tweeted this pic from the palace
by Andres B on Feb 10, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
Why does Brook look like a homless wino? the beard must go
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think Brook is hairer
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 10, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
this reminds me of the redneck father who got into his daughters facebook account and then put her on blast for talking ish on him
and then emptied a full clip into their computer
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 10, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
HAHA!!! Rec'd!
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 10, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Brook looks much bigger.
And really happy.
by djeterfan on Feb 10, 2012 5:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Has Chewbacca been teaching Lopez how to sound intellectual?
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by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 10, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Brook might practice on Monday
Great news. Best news all year.
by djeterfan on Feb 10, 2012 5:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I hate The Knicks and there fans as much as anybody else, but reading some of the things on Lin's Wikipedia page really makes me feel for the guy. Racism of ANY variety should not be tolerated.
Lin has regularly heard bigoted jeers at games such as “Wonton soup”, “Sweet and sour pork”, “Open your eyes!”, “Go back to China”, “Orchestra is on the other side of campus”, or Chinese gibberish. Lin says this occurred even at most if not all Ivy League gyms. He does not react to it. “I expect it, I’m used to it, it is what it is,” says Lin. The heckling came mostly from opposing fans and not as much from players. According to Harvard teammate Oliver McNally, a fellow Ivy League player did once call Lin a “chink”.
Pulling an eminem
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
which is why I support him
but not the knicks. I dont watch knick games, I don’t comment on forums or buy his jerseys or anything. But as an asian man who grew up in America who considers himself AMERICAN who HAPPENS to be Chinese….i can’t help but support. My DREAM was always to play in the NBA, now we all know that didn’t happen and for the most part will never happen, but the fact that he graduated from HARVARD….and chose to play NBA basketball, after being looked over by scouts and coaches and GM’s time after time after time. Getting moiso’d on because he’s asian, peopel saying physically he’s scrawny and can’t play in the NBA, undrafted in Havard even though he played well, landed on Rockets and Golden State and NEVER played.
I hated him for doing what he did to the Nets when Dantoni put him in the game a week ago. But I loved the fact that he’s getting his spotlight. Knick fans are ridiculous saying things like he’s the next superstar. I don’t hold him in such high regard, I just feel he has a definite place in the NBA as a permanent point guard. He is not better than Dwayne Wade, Lebron James, Deron Williams, Rondo, Chris Pual, etc etc etc. but he IS better than other players in this league.
You were called racist here on ND?
That doesn’t sound like us. We seem to have the smartest fans in the league. How is stating a simple fact considered “racist”? Whoever gave you a hard time is ignorant man
lol really?
why would that be racist? people use the term too loosely nowadays. not everything that has to do with race is racist.
I know for a fact chinese americans ARE supporting him, it’s more a fact than something racist. I just didn’t think ROC would support him because he’s from Taiwan and China and Taiwan do NOT get along. If America wasn’t in the middle, China would’ve invaded Taiwan 20 years ago.
Apparently I’m wrong though, Chinese citizens in China and Taiwan are both catching on.
I wouldn;t mind it so much
i’d actlly like to see him succeed, but they’re overhyping him SO DAMN MUCH. FUTURE ALL-STAR PG! WHO NEEDS MELO! LINSANITY!
like stfu its been 3 games
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that I agree with
the “Linsanity” is absolutely annoying. Yes…he had 3 breakout games, but my god he is NOT the next superstar. Read the scouting report and you’ll see WHY he had 3 good games against those teams (including us). The pick and rolls KILLED us.
Is it too much to hope that knicks don’t resign him when baron davis becomes healthy (or IF rather) and Nets pick him up? I mean he’d make a decent backup PG to Deron.
Wishful thinking I know.
All of a sudden this is new stuff
SMH!!!!
This has been going on for years.
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ESPN was looking for nicknames for Jeremy Lin
How about Lin-den-burg because he is going to come crashing back to earth tonite.
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 5:27 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
BerLin Wall
Separating Knicks fans + ESPN from reality
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by netsareboss on Feb 10, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yes
because you can call anyone a superstar if they have 3 good games.
no melo, no amare and knicks win 3 games against sub .500 teams. When the scouting reports come out and coaches realize they HAVE to guard him and start preparing teams to play against him? His 20+ points a game will disappear and so will his assists.
Realize that Devin Harris was an allstar at one point, till other defensive scouts figured out his game. Of course injury also had something to do with that but many a “next superstar” players that have come into the NBA their first time outs are deemed basketball gods…only to find out they are human once again after teams figure out their games.
The same will happen to Lin. I’m not saying he’s a good player, I’m saying he’s not a superstar player and the “Linsanity” is so ridiculous it’s making him look bad actually.
You're thinking too hard
He’s on fire b/c he has fresh legs. Let’s see what he does playing 30+min in back to back to backs
I sense a FAIL
coming.
SMH!!!!
3 games
How many games did Marshon score more then 20pts a game?
SMH!!!!
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Just let DH12 stay in Orlando and come to BK in the summer
Dwill/MarShon/MKG or Barnes/Lopez/Howard
Farmar/Morrow/Shelden/JWill/Rockets pick off the bench
Is anyone watching Around the Horn
Bill Russell played in 21 game 7’s and was 21-0. Thats crazy
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 5:31 PM EST reply actions
Bill Russell is in the HAM hall of fame
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Oscar Robertson averaged a triple double for a whole year...
Robertson put up in 1961-62, just his second year in the league: 30.8 points, 12.5 rebounds, and 11.4 assists per game-an average of a triple-double for an entire season.
Bill Russell
11 NBA Championships
2 NCAA Championships
1 Gold Medal
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yi Jianlian...
2002–2007 Guangdong Southern Tigers (China)
2007–2008 Milwaukee Bucks
2008–2010 New Jersey Nets
2010–2011 Washington Wizards
2011 Guangdong Southern Tigers (China)
2012–present Dallas Mavericks
2012 →Texas Legends (D-League)
Wow they really need to chill...
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That'll end faster than how quickly Petro commits a TO or foul
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There is going to be a MAJOR FAIL
coming soon!!!!
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LOL
Storm troopers standing guard!
Can’t let Otis come in and try to make Lopez break his foot again
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Yeah he definitely filled out a bit.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Is it Star Wars Night?
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 10, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Brook is such a nerd he might try to play tonite because he heard Yoda was in attendence
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
Impress Yoga, he must
Haters, he must silence
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Someone needs to tell him it's Star Wars day every day in Orlando
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Why does Lopez not have a lightsaber in any of these pics?
We know he wants one
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if he is here next year
there should be like some Lopez fan section like what Andrew Bogut has with “Squad Six” and the people dress up like they are at Comic-Con and cheer to bring back RA
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 10, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
We have the way better player
VS
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 5:34 PM EST reply actions
Brook def. put on some good size.
Happy for him.
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by D Will to Succeed on Feb 10, 2012 5:34 PM EST reply actions
Can people stop posting pictures of Jeremy Lin?
Seriously this isn’t a knicks board I’d rather not scroll through 40 pictures of this guy.
by NetsKiNG on Feb 10, 2012 5:35 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
espn ESPN
"One man can be a crucial ingredient on a team, but one man cannot make a team." – Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
cough Dwight cough
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cough
Lin
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
You rang?
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Feb 10, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
i def see what you did there
and you get a rec because of it
UNBELIEVABLE I hate ESPN with such a passion
Kornheiser goes “Dwill has said he wants to leave and they stink..yada yada yada”
Bunch of uninformed morons.
Yup.
Almost punched my tv when i heard that.
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by D Will to Succeed on Feb 10, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
These guys on PTI are so stupid.
“theyre best player deron williams has already said that he wants out”
keeping the gatorade ready and............
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 10, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds good
Ledger_Nets: Brook said he’s worked out hard the last 3 days and is ready to practice Monday.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
had the same injury as lopez before.
The only thing i learned. TAKE MORE TIME OFF THAN YOUR TOLD. If they tell you 8 weeks take ten. This thing needs to run its course, FULLY.
I agree...
Wait till after the All-Star game. Only eight more games before the break 7 after tonight.
Yeah...I would love him back too...
but you can’t mess with his health and career for a few wins. Don’t matter what we say anyway. Doctors, King, AJ, and Brook himself will decide when he’s ready to go.
This team is insane right now.
Losing games doesn’t phase them, it doesn’t even register. This entire season will be one of many afterthoughts once we have a Chip contender in our backyards
THANK YOU
let him play limited minutes one game against a medicore/weak team. I garauntee we win that game
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How many weeks will that have been?
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wow when I first read this I thought it said Brooks
so I wasn’t that excited
just re-read the tweet and realized it said Brook
YES!
This injury thing is getting so bad that you're gonna start hearing something like this over the PA at Nets games...
“Nets fans! Please check your ticket stubs. If you are sitting in Section 112. Row 8. Seat #16… Cooooooooongratulations! You have just been selected to help out at the Small Forward position! Please head down to the scorers table and wait to check in. "
by NuttinBut on Feb 10, 2012 5:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don't know about you guys
But I’m more than happy to gamble on getting Dwight to keep Deron instead of trying to get good on a secure way to keep deron.
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Soooo....the same logic applies to DWill then right?
DWill wouldn’t lose so much to sign elsewhere if he doesn’t want to join the Brooklyn cause. Ouch. This really scares me now. Cuz although Kyler points out the taxes wouldn’t be a big deal…relatively speaking…but when it comes to DWill…he can actually make more per year in Dallas because whereas Dwight would be losing about 2 million or so are year by leaving tax friendly Orlando for tax heavy NY…DWill would be the exacty opposite, he’d make 2 million more in the tax friendly Dallas. Am i getting this wrong? And like Kyler says, you can’t factor in the salary lost in that 5th extra year staying a net vs. only 4 years in Dallas cuz if he’ll more than likely sign another contract before than which would make up for that lost 5th season if he stayed a net. So Dallas have more of an advantage other than just being where he grew up. He can actually get more money there…even if it’s only 1 to 2 million more when NY taxes are factored in.
You are absolutely right
the only difference is with Dwill is that if he stays here we will have the cap space to keep him and get Dwight. If he goes to Dallas, they will only have the cap space to get him.
I am not worried about losing Dwill. He can pull a Brand even after we get Dwight and sign somewhere else.
Financially, Dwight can recover from a $30 mill hit easier then Dwill. Dwight will always make more endorsement money then Dwill.
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“@PTI @DeronWilliams said there’s a 90% chance he’s going to stay in NJ. Come on Tony, get it together. Thx @RealMikeWilbon”
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quick Lin question... im arguing with a nyk fan..
Can NYK resign him next season? Bird rights ? Salary wise can they afford him if let’s say he is legit?
by kupalski on Feb 10, 2012 5:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
LoL, I just posted this
he’ll be an UFA. All the Knicks can offer him is the MLE, which I’m sure hey planned on using on someone else
The ironic thing about Lin is that he's a FA
All the Knicks can offer him is the MLE. If he proves himself, he’ll leave them. If not, then he’s not that good anyway. Either way, he’ll be out of the NY spotlight by the end of the year
:)
DWill_Fans Deron Williams Fans
Watching @PTI and there dead wrong about the #NETS
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That Jay-Z can’t change the Nets and that Deron said he wants out of NJ #Wrong RT @RyJetNet: @DWill_Fans What they say?
don't bother
the national media just ignores everything the Nets have going b/c that’s what sells. No one wants to see Brook Lopez lighting it up or Deron re-sign.
I'm not hip and don't understand twitter
Did d will say that?
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Feb 10, 2012 6:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Deron went off on Wed too
We need other people to contribute.
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andy_vasquez Andy Vasquez
Brook said it’s the first time he’s worked out three days in a row since being hurt. No pain. Said he feels like he’s ready to play now.
I hope he takes his time to get back.
We dont want him to make things worse.
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Just because he feels ready doesn't mean he is
It’s too important.
by ZR on Feb 10, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
I dont mind that at all
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Hopefully AJ shakes it up tonight especially if Brooks is out...
He needs to think outside the box and help us get a win…
LETS GO NETS !!!
No waiting, no posturing, no BS
Trade for the man ASAP. Any and all concerns going forward from that point are rendered moot/inconsequential
You hear that HUMP!
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by D Will to Succeed on Feb 10, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
PTI and the rest of the Media dont get Nets fans
A boy comes to me with a spark of interest. I feed the spark and it becomes a flame. I feed the flame and it becomes a fire. I feed the fire and it becomes a roaring blaze." – Cus D’amato
We might not be many in numbers but we support our team to the end. We are the spark that will light the night’s sky in Brooklyn to a roaring blaze. We will get our respect sooner then most think. The Blueprint has been set into motion. Nothing can stop us now.
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 6:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Why
Why would DWight come here? Chicago, La, Mavs, last time I checked they were better than us and know how to play the game. The Nets have nothing but DWill. Nothing. Their defense is atrocious. Why would he risk his glorious career to come here and be ridiculed and exposed the way DWill is being ridiculed and exposed? It is not worth it. I’d love to have him here, but I really don’t believe it. I just don’t see why.
Didn't Miami draft Michael Beasley 2nd overll?
They must have been awesome to get that pick,,, and this is after wade needed shaq to win his Chip
believe it
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D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
But you answered your own question.
Dwill.
Chicago and LA dont have a Pass First PG.
Mavs have a very old Pass First PG.
Then you add Brooklyn and My Adidas. Then you see the future. Barclay Center will have a HUGE EMPTY CENTER in front of the Arena. A LOT OF SPACE FOR ONE or TWO Statues.
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Oh man, Oman
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by BEB on Feb 10, 2012 6:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So Whats up with SWAG? Is he playing or not?
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 10, 2012 6:18 PM EST reply actions
Good call Netsking
MarShon Brooks will play tonight according to Avery. “It won’t be heavy minutes.”
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by D Will to Succeed on Feb 10, 2012 6:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
So far Ryan Anderson & Kevin Love have been invited to the 3pt shooting contest....
MORROW BETTER BE THERE.
player introduction still has to say he's a net
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It'll be nice to see MarShon "The Garden Snake" Brooks back in action!
and yes I did make up that nickname lol
by NuttinBut on Feb 10, 2012 6:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
while letting a hall of fame center walk sounds crazy
The magic have done it before
by HabPSU on Feb 10, 2012 6:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Need him back to
Ledger_Nets: DeShawn Stevenson said he underwent a new blood spinning treatments on his knees and they feel best since 2004.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Don't know what that means...
I just hope he’s not exaggerating. Something rarely talked about here is veteran presence on the court. We need him in the locker room and on the court
BSPN "new point guard sensation jeremy lin" omg...3 games...
by netsyankees4life on Feb 10, 2012 6:42 PM EST reply actions
its only vomit-inducing
cuz they called him frikin Linsanity. Wtf is this bullmoiso
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also today someone tried telling me his season average is 25 a game..what a joke its PATHETIC
by netsyankees4life on Feb 10, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Well season = last 3 games
derp
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It’s like you guys don’t remember when Nate Robinson was the talk of the town in NY…
Yes, things get over-hyped. Yeah, this guy might be a no-name backup next week, next season, or for the rest of his life.
It’s a cool story and it’s good for the NBA and ESPN…it’s not everyday that a D-League scrap heap pickup goes to one of the biggest markets in the NBA and lights it up just as the team looks like it’s falling apart (and consequently helps with a HUGE demographic).
Quick bio question
How is the Electron Transport Chain in the mitochondria SIMILAR and DIFFERENT from that in the chloroplasts?
thanks everyone and NI
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