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Game 28 - Nets @ Pistons - Friday, February 10, 7:30 p.m.

The Nets go into Detroit with nine healthy players, including one All-Star (Deron Williams) and one small forward (Shawne Williams). They're hoping to avoid their fifth straight loss and 20th loss for the season. After beating the Pistons by three points with eight players last week, they lost by seven with 10 players on Wednesday.

In Wednesday's game, they lost Keith Bogans, almost certainly for the season, to both a broken ankle and a complete tear of a deltoid ligament. The Nets will wait till Monday's surgery before officially announcing if there's any chance of recovery this season. The Nets are unlikely to add anyone between now and then because they'd first have to cut a player.

The Pistons, on the other hand, are trying for their fourth straight under Lawrence Frank. Detroit is actually getting healthier with only Charlie Villanueva definitely out. Will Bynum is questionable. Two of the Pistons' young players, Greg Monroe and Brandon Knight will join Marshon Brooks in the Rookie-Sophomore Challenge in Orlando.

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With Bogans having little trade value (at $600K) expiring, he should be the one cut, in another week, ....

so Nets can try for a true SF.

What are Boki or Joe Alexander doing right now?

If Stevenson can return healthy (a big if) Nets would be OK for now after getting a serviceable SF.

by jerry25 on Feb 10, 2012 7:30 AM EST reply actions  

8-20

Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...

by D-Will2Nets on Feb 10, 2012 7:32 AM EST reply actions  

Just Stop:

Monroe, Knight, Stuckey, Prince and Ben Gordon from scoring—and should be OK.

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Feb 10, 2012 7:36 AM EST reply actions  

Nets^

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Feb 10, 2012 7:36 AM EST up reply actions  

don't forget jerebko

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by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

word, i was about to the same

with all these injuries, defense is like plugging a leaky dam with chewing gum and Petro is the moiso that ate all the gum.

by cprash on Feb 10, 2012 9:11 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

hahaha

That’s kinda like saying, “if we score more points then the Pistons, we will win.”

obviously if we stop their 5 best players from scoring, we will win, what kind of analysis is that?

by King Of Russia on Feb 10, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I was actually jealous of sacramentos crowd last night.

And they don’t have an all star. Can’t wait for a game like that at home.

by SteViePoPzBK on Feb 10, 2012 7:36 AM EST reply actions  

It helps that they have no other sports except hockey i think

by cprash on Feb 10, 2012 8:20 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

gotta factor NYC teams

i assume there are yanks, nets, rangers jets, giants fans in NJ too

by cprash on Feb 10, 2012 9:36 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

true true

but i still wanna call you out for saying nets fans are stealing nets fans attention…

(I know you meant mets. haha)

Brook-Brooks-Brooklyn
LET'S DO THIS!

by OneCGuy on Feb 10, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

my phone does recognize Mets as a word. I do assume there nets Fans in NJ too xD

by cprash on Feb 10, 2012 1:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

and philly controls all the fans and media in south jersey

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 10, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

not all of south jersey...

and especially not the 76ers

i live in south jersey man, and everyone is a nets/knicks fan, a giants/jets fan, and yankees/mets fan, everyone hates the eagles and the phillies with a passion.

and in no way is the media controlled by philly.

Cherry Hill NJ is the only place i know of that are philly fans.

by King Of Russia on Feb 10, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure

I guess you can dismiss Utah, Sacramento and Portland for being one-team cities but what about the Bay Area, though? Six pro teams and GSW hasn’t truly contended in almost 40 years but their fans are still consistently legit. There really are just fanbases that are bigger/care more than others. I can’t even remember the last Nets playoff crowd that was as wild as the Kings fans were to win a regular season game.

by shane gayle on Feb 10, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont have a good answer for you bro

there are so many variables that determine if and where a sport is popular. The lack of other teams seems to be a contributory factor though.

by cprash on Feb 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Knew the coaches would make him an all star

He’s respected around the league even thou the Nets aren’t …
Now go out and celebrate with a win thank you!

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by Benz Zito on Feb 10, 2012 7:38 AM EST reply actions  

B LO looks healthy enough

Nets have to put him back in the game. I’m not saying play him 40 min a game just bring him slowly. Just cant believe i will get banned after Petrocious spectacular play

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 8:02 AM EST reply actions  

How do u know how healthy he looks

What r u basing that on? You havent seen hin practice or do any sort of drills or exercises.

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by BEB on Feb 10, 2012 8:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

When tim Walsh and the coaching staff think he's ready

He’ll play.

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Feb 10, 2012 8:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

its been 7 weeks now

he should be back by now. he’s brother needed as much time as B Lo missed as of right now

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, in that case insert him into the starting lineup for tonight

Maybe he’ll come close to those 8 assists you said he averages.

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by BEB on Feb 10, 2012 9:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

rebounds

i’m not a doctor but one thing i’m pretty sure of , he’s young 23 and getting a lot of quality help to be ready. Like i said bring him slowly. it’s past 7 weeks as of right now and thats enough time for a bone to heal completely

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

just because his estimated time back was 6-8 weeks doesn’t mean he just comes back after seven weeks. with the all-star game approaching, they would be better suited in resting him until after the break, especially to insure his health for any possible dwight howard deals

by King Of Russia on Feb 10, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

and not to mention

the trainers know more then you and me, thats there job, they know what there doing, if he was truely ready to play and back at 100% then they would play him, but he is not yet

by King Of Russia on Feb 10, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

lol NetsDaily resident physician and geneticist.

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by GMJigga on Feb 10, 2012 9:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

whats the powerball numbers today?

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 10, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm getting very impressed with J Will's game and effort

last 4 games dude proved he can give Hump a run for PF position and i do like them play together as well.

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 8:05 AM EST reply actions  

Jordan Williams is the reason, Petro, should never touch the court again.

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Feb 10, 2012 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

looking like a low first rounder than a second rounder

loads of potential. good fundamentals. a steal for BK

by cprash on Feb 10, 2012 8:22 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

i love the fact he got soft hands

no doubt he is work in progress but lately he picked his game up( rotation and finishing around d the rim improved big time.)

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

he could also teach a thing or two about rebounding

very good at securing them. textbook good.

by cprash on Feb 10, 2012 9:15 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

No Doubt. All around I am liking where Jordan Williams is headed

I think the rest of the year and a traditional off-season will do him well.

He might be the only person benefiting from the team being so injured.

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by OneCGuy on Feb 10, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Jeremy Williams gotta bust it out there...

Good players have good motors and J-Will needs to rev it up a notch or two. If he can get into better shape physically and stay in shape he might have a long career in the NBA. Big men with skills are always needed in the NBA…As we personally have witnessed even big men with no skill can have a career and make alot of money in the NBA…

by M I K E on Feb 10, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Jeremy Williams?

Are you suggesting hes going to drop 25 on the Pistons tonight? :)

by cprash on Feb 10, 2012 9:41 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Will-i-ams...

If those damn Knicks can have a Jeremy so can we… From know on Jordan “Will-i-ams” will be known as Jeremy Williams…

by M I K E on Feb 10, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

what happened to Stevenson and Okur?

They started with soreness and now it feels like they’re out indefinitely?

by cprash on Feb 10, 2012 10:09 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

wrong spot

mobile app does it again

by cprash on Feb 10, 2012 10:10 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

johan petro

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by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

OT-- Dwill is an allstar... 20-8 on a bad team... but he always had those type numbers..

nut in the begining of the year everyone was saying he is going to make teamates look alot better… like kidd with Mikki etc… has dwill’s play helped out any of our players?

by kupalski on Feb 10, 2012 8:15 AM EST reply actions  

who is he playing with again?

yeah i thought we all watched Nets games this season. P Pierce played for garbage Celtic team with losing record etc dude is clearly an all star and most people following nba would say so as well.

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Marbury was averaging 20-8 in 2001 too...

…when he was made an all-star in a terrible Nets team.

by Proballxx on Feb 10, 2012 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

This remind anybody of someone on the current Nets team?
Scott said that Marbury did not want to push the pace of the Nets’ up-tempo offense last season, and that in contrast to Kidd’s upbeat attitude, by the end of last season Marbury had become a negative influence on a losing team.

’’There’s a bunch of types of leaders and I like guys like Jason who are very positive and try to uplift his teammates, and Steph didn’t do that,‘’ Scott said. ’’If he did say something to his teammates, 9 times out of 10, it was negative. Sometimes you don’t have to say anything, it’s just the way you look at guys or just the way you act that lets you know you don’t really care for them or you didn’t like what they just did.

’’That’s not the type of leader that we needed. I don’t think Steph is a selfish guy. I think he wants to win, but sometimes he just doesn’t go about it the right way.’’

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/04/sports/basketball-marbury-for-kidd-looks-like-fair-deal.html

by Proballxx on Feb 10, 2012 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

umm...jordan farmar

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by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

J Kidd maybe best PG ever

i cant put D Will or CP next to J Kidd. Dude is triple double machine

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Stockton was just a double-double machine but he was pretty good

That’s not a knock on JKidd’s special ability to also rebound but what matters most to PGs is a good mix of points and assists.

by stenpoint on Feb 10, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Stockton and Kidd are on the same level

As a point guard you want to look at Assists. Magic was one of the greatest ever but i think as a PG Kidd and Stockton were better than him. Magic won many championships and was always on a stacked team, it was hard for him not to be great. Kidd and Stockton were great with a horrible supporting cast.

by breaking20 on Feb 10, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Stockton had a horrible supporting cast? um, Karl Malone?

Give DWill today’s Malone and let’s see what happens.

by stenpoint on Feb 10, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I was waiting for that lol

So Karl Malone and John Stockton are a better team than Magic Johnson, James Worthy, Kareem and Byron Scott?

My point is Magic Johnson had a better supporting cast. Stockton had one great player with him. While they did have a good team for a few years in the 90’s, did they win anything? I don’t see any rings on Malone or Stockton’s fingers.

by breaking20 on Feb 10, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

okay that's not fair

you don’t see a ring on stockton or malone because of Michael Jordan era. In fact you don’t see a LOT of great hall of famers without rings solely because of Michael Jordan and the bulls era.

by Roccor420 on Feb 10, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

you know they were together for about 4 years before Phil Jackson even got to Chicago

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 10, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

yes that is true

but by that argument Jerry Sloan didn’t get to the Jazz until the late eighties early 90’s I believe. And I also didn’t say the Phil jackson era, i said the Michael Jordan and the bulls era.

Everyone really only remembers the rodman, pippen, kerr, longley and jordan squad but they were up and coming years before that time. that was the michael jordan i’m going to dunk on everything and anyone, hide your children days. when phil jackson came into the equation, he was more of a around jumper michael jordan, at least starting to.

by Roccor420 on Feb 10, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

i said maybe

and i never looked at Magic as a pg more like LBJ PointFor…

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

most peaple expected that because he avereged 16 ass with B Lo on the floor

since we dont have B Lo and most of our players cant even catch the ball we have a problem big time

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

20-8 on the Nets

Hmmmm there was another player on the Nets with the same numbers but was not even mentioned in the all star conversation. In fact, pundits don’t even consider him a top 5 player at his position.

Can anyone name this player?

by sour grapes on Feb 10, 2012 8:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

his just not the leader the way D Will is

and that hurts him. I would wish him a the best in disney land

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

who?

brook lopez?

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by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

ah

brook lopez does not have the rep dwill has though and he isn’t a PG so he doesn’t control the game, plus there are many big men who are better than him sorry to say but its the truth

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by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

and yet he still make's

D Will’s assist rate go up, Ammo shooting % and Hump scoring and rebounding rate etc guy dont get enough credit

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

yea i know

he opens up the floor for everyone he does a lot without doing much, if you get what im saying

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by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Lopez never came close to 8 assists per game

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by BEB on Feb 10, 2012 8:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

maybe 8 rebounds

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by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

first 2 years 20-9

last year gut said he didnt bother and he knows he have to pick it up on both ends of the floor.

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

If Shelden could convert any of the looks Deron sets up… or Shawne… Morrow is definitely better.

MarShon the Messiah

by J-Kay on Feb 10, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

this is a must win blah blah blah

just win the darn game Lets Go Nets

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by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

exactly

they need to win tonight..big time and he needs to dish assists to Hump and his shooters, shelden and our other big men should not touch the ball

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by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Even Chris Mannix is knocking DWill selection vs. Rondo.

I asked him, if Rondo is so good, why were Celtics shopping him around, yet Nets wouldn’t consider trading DWill for anyone, even with a chance of losing him for nothing:

His response:

Chris Mannix @ChrisMannixSI

@jerry25a Let’s be clear: Celtics are not shopping Rondo. They will deal him for a CP3-level player. That’s it.
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by jerry25 on Feb 10, 2012 8:38 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ridiculous

Let’s look at it from another sport…

Are you telling me Larry Fitzgerald, Matt Forte, Cam Newton, Demarcus Ware, or Jerad Allen didn’t deserve to go to the Pro Bowl this year? None of their teams went to the playoffs.

I see a lot of hating on Deron getting selected for the All-Star game and i don’t understand why. The All-Star game in any sport is about individual talent. Deron, while playing on a bad team, is still having a good season statistically.

Deron is always in the conversation when talking about the top 5 or top 3 PGs in the league. I don’t see why this is even a topic.

by breaking20 on Feb 10, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Excellent points

The All-Star Game, like the Pro Bowl, highlights individual talent. If you want to say that Rondo has had a better individual year, OK. But the being on a bad team argument does nothing for me.

by ZR on Feb 10, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

one elite basketball player

has way more impact on the win/loss of his team than a single great receiver in football.

by shane gayle on Feb 10, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope they win tonight.

I think it’s quite alright to win two out of three games against a team in the same quality tier as the Nets. The previous loss to the Pistons doesn’t bother provided they win tonight to make it two out of three. That’s acceptable imo, because the teams are more or less evenly matched.

2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44

And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.

by BigTom on Feb 10, 2012 8:38 AM EST reply actions  

Has there been much conversation about the NEW TWITTER?

Maybe Twitter should be a separate topic, because the changes may impact how Twitter is used.
Seems that now we can easily trace who a Celebrity is responding to, which means they have to be more careful.

Has anyone found any options that weren’t available with the previous Twitter?

by jerry25 on Feb 10, 2012 8:42 AM EST reply actions  

Its better than the old one IMO

When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?

by AmbassadorAmeer on Feb 10, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Lots of changes.

Worth some reviews by Nets fans, after people have time to play with it for a few days.

by jerry25 on Feb 10, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Brooks a GTD now?

I thought he wasn’t playing until at least the 12th.

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by eLonepb on Feb 10, 2012 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

Nets PR tweet
@Nets_PR
Nets Injury Report for tonight at DET: Brooks – Game Time Decision; Okur, Stevenson, Bogans, Lopez, James all OUT

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by eLonepb on Feb 10, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

hm..hope he plays

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by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Thats just depressing

Seeing all of those players lol. 4 starting caliber players OUT.

by breaking20 on Feb 10, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Okur and Stevenson are not starters

They just happen to be starters on the Nets.

by ZR on Feb 10, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

And James only had the potential to become a starter, if healthy.

Brooks wouldn’t be a starter on another team either, just yet.

by jerry25 on Feb 10, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

idk about that man

not all teams have a sg that can create his own shot, i could think of 4 on the top of my head: kobe, monta ellis, dwayne wade, and Iguodala

by King Of Russia on Feb 10, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Barkley was high on him last night

he’s going to draft him first before Irving, i think Fartello has some to do with it or maybe not

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe

shaq said he wants blake first…but what about rubio…

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by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm pretty sure both Irving and Rubio will start for either team

but the fact Barkley was very high on Swag made me feel good. As for Blake i’m not sure ? he definitely going to start at PF position at all star game

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Fartello

Lulz

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by BEB on Feb 10, 2012 9:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

we should be an update on lopez soon right?

seems like brooks is fine.

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Feb 10, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

This for me, is lowballing.

http://www.nba.com/2012/allstar/2012/02/09/east-reserves/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

Makes me wonder, did Steve Aschbummer make the same rant when Love was chosen as an all-star reserve last year? As far as I can remember, Love’s team was way below .500 at that time.

by qwertify on Feb 10, 2012 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

probably not

because…its not the Nets

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by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

G | Deron Williams, New Jersey Nets
Only player in the league averaging at least 20 points and eight assists, with 11 points/assists double-doubles.

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by AmbassadorAmeer on Feb 10, 2012 9:06 AM EST reply actions  

stats don't lie

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by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

DWill rounds off to 21 and 9

20.9 and 8.6

And those numbers continue to rise. By the time we get Dwight I’d guess he’d be at 22 and 10. And after that, wow.

by stenpoint on Feb 10, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

From DeronWilliams.com
He is currently 12th in the NBA in scoring, averaging 20.9 points. In addition, he remains one of the league’s best passers, ranking fifth at 8.6 assists per game over the first 27 games of the season. He is the only player in the NBA averaging 20 points and eight assists per game. Mike Mazzeo of ESPN New York wrote that the coaches made the right call:

It’s not like it was the fans or a committee of writers that gave D-Will the nod. It was the coaches that see him in games and evaluate him in film sessions. They know what they’re talking about — or at least most of them do. They probably realize just like the rest of us that the talent around him is sorely lacking and his assist numbers would be way up if not for all the dropped passes and turnovers. And D-Will is going to turn the ball over at a high rate because it’s always in his hands. Are others like Josh Smith and Danny Granger more deserving? Maybe. But this isn’t about team records or even teams themselves. This is an individual honor. And when it comes to point guards — especially in the Eastern Conference — D-Will is right behind Derrick Rose as the best in the game.

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by AmbassadorAmeer on Feb 10, 2012 9:10 AM EST reply actions  

Lots of fans voted for him

It’s not like you can discount the large amount of people that actually did vote for him. This isn’t a guy that got the least amount of votes and catapulted over everyone thanks to the coaches.

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by eLonepb on Feb 10, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

His stats qualify him to be a starter – not just a reserve – but hey – Thats the Nets effect.

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by AmbassadorAmeer on Feb 10, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

It's the injury effect more than anything

If we had everyone healthy (mainly Lopez), we would probably be hovering around .500 or so, and nobody would’ve blinked twice about Deron.

Add to that, Lopez might be an All Star reserve selection himself and Deron’s numbers/efficiency would be much higher with a 20PPG center to dump the ball down to.

Fact is, Deron is an All Star without question and thousands of fans voted for him. The record is a knock against him, but looking at the factors that contribute to that should explain why.

The real question is how Carmelo isn’t getting hate for being selected a starter (by the fans). That team has been healthy for the most part, his efficiency has been awful, the team record abysmal, and yet he’s a starter.

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by eLonepb on Feb 10, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

well if you look at the PF position, it's pretty crapy

KG finished, Bosh ….? Amare had his downs this season as well dude didnt even made all star team

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

It's very very difficult to be named an NBA All-Star Game starter

You really have to be a fan favorite. DWill doesn’t have the sort of personality or high flying displays that someone like Vince Carter did. That’s why he may never end up as an ASG starter. Only real chance is if Howard is a Net and they start killing it in Brooklyn.

by ZR on Feb 10, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Everyone should bookmark this article

It’s basically Larry Coon spelling out all the money situation for Dwight. Useful for when making arguments with people about how much money is really at stake. You can also assume the same goes for Deron if he leaves.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-setting-it-straight-on-howards-options

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by eLonepb on Feb 10, 2012 9:12 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

you said it many times before !!!

i think at this point everyone knows D12 wants Nets over any team. At this point B Lo is the only thing that prevents this deal

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm glad to have the #'s from Coon

Basically Dwight is giving up guaranteed 5th and making $855K less per year.

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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Feb 10, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

no doubt Coon post explains every detail of it

and thanks for a link will help me in debates with Linsanity situation

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Feb 10, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Yay!

Now, I can just throw a link at people instead of explaining it.

by Dopeness on Feb 10, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha exactly

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Feb 10, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks eLone....I particularly like this part of the article
If Orlando knew that none of Dwight’s preferred teams will have cap room, then maybe they can call his bluff and say, "Fine, leave on your own, because unless you want to play in someplace like Indiana, you’ll need us this summer." But we already know that two of Dwight’s preferred teams will have cap room. In other words, THERE IS NO BLUFF to call."

by M I K E on Feb 10, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Stefan Bondy @NYDNInterNets

MarShon Brooks is a gametime decision for tonight against the Pistons

MarShon the Messiah

by J-Kay on Feb 10, 2012 9:14 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

double post :)

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by NDTony on Feb 10, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Stefan Bondy @NYDNInterNets
MarShon Brooks is a gametime decision for tonight against the Pistons

Official Member of the "DO NOT ABUSE BROOK LOPEZ" Movement

by NDTony on Feb 10, 2012 9:14 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

This means they can suprise us with Brook as well

Let’s hope.

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by NDTony on Feb 10, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO

Brookis very close. Maybe, Wednesday, after the 3 days off?

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Feb 10, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Doubt it

I’m not sure they want him to come back at the start of a 5 game in 6 night stretch. My guess all along has been that he returns halfway through that stretch (Home against Milwaukee on the 19th).

by TheNetsFan on Feb 10, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

hiw awesome it would be having him back

excuse my bad english please

by -Seiti- on Feb 10, 2012 9:16 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

@Marshon2
Shootaround….

I think he’s playing tonight

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Feb 10, 2012 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

LEGGOO

ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE

by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

LMAO

When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?

by AmbassadorAmeer on Feb 10, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Who is that grabbing his love handles?

Amare?

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Feb 10, 2012 9:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Amare

with the Assist.

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The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!

by SIC One on Feb 10, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I remember this

Amare gave Deron a lift after the whistled was called haha

by Legendairy on Feb 10, 2012 10:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

As long as noone steps on Marshon's toe, causing it to swell up....

he should be fine.

Does anyone know if MarShon has complained of any pain in his toe lately?
Nets are just being cautious, I believe.

by jerry25 on Feb 10, 2012 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

Charles Barkley loves Marshon!

Last night on inside the NBA when the rookie/sophmore game was being discussed, out of all the rookies mentioned barkley said: Ernie remember that name Marshon Brooks. Later in the show barkley said he felt he was going to be a stud. Charles even talked about possibly drafting him first for the rookie/sophmore game…

I love it when nets players get recognition and props…

by aug93 on Feb 10, 2012 9:35 AM EST reply actions  

Fred Kerber @FredKerber

GM Billy King: Nets don’t expect to waive anybody to create a spot

um… wtf? Bogans has the same agent as Dwight, right? That’s the only explanation I can think of

MarShon the Messiah

by J-Kay on Feb 10, 2012 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

hmmm

ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE

by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Tim Bontemps @TimBontemps

King says he wants to wait until after Bogans has surgery to rule him out for the year, in case he can come back. #Nets

Couldn’t you just waive him now and pick him back up later if he’s able to play?

MarShon the Messiah

by J-Kay on Feb 10, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

If Marshon sits out another day that is fine by me

as long as he plays tomorrow, when I am at the game…

But seriously. This should be a W.

Brook-Brooks-Brooklyn
LET'S DO THIS!

by OneCGuy on Feb 10, 2012 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

SHOULD BE

its not guaranteed

ITS A VVVVVVVVVVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEE

by Keysta101 on Feb 10, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

It is a known fact

that a man/woman can pass a lie detector telling false statements as long as he/she believes them to be true.

I am going to will this team into the Playoffs.

Brook-Brooks-Brooklyn
LET'S DO THIS!

by OneCGuy on Feb 10, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL...

Maybe the playoffs is not what we need this year. A lottery pick would go a long way whether we keep it or use it in a trade…

by aug93 on Feb 10, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah i could really go for a pick right about now. Why we gotta wait til the summer?

And if Houston keeps it up, we might avoid the protection. I’ll take it.

Brook-Brooks-Brooklyn
LET'S DO THIS!

by OneCGuy on Feb 10, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Wednesday too.

How’d that work out?

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Feb 10, 2012 9:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Pretty good all things considered.

you know i only broke one remote and yelled at two children. so all in all i call that a victory in of itself.

Brook-Brooks-Brooklyn
LET'S DO THIS!

by OneCGuy on Feb 10, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

if you take the time Petro did play out the game

Nets won that game, he sparked like an 11-0 run for the Pistons and was a -7 in 4 minutes

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 10, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

MarShon calling DWill Fat Boy is funny

He congratulated DWill on other day calling him Fat Boy.

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by NDTony on Feb 10, 2012 9:43 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

People will continue to deny Howard to the Nets

but we will see the real hate in the ASG.

Will Thibs play Dwill and Howard at the same time?

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The Sooner You Accept the Reality, The Easier the Transition!!

by SIC One on Feb 10, 2012 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

I am pretty sure I am going to want to watch the All-Star game on mute

There is only so many times i can handle hearing “Deron doesn’t deserve to be here” and “you know his team is not good” and “Why would Dwight walk into 8-19” or whatever.

Straight up hatred from around the league. People like making fun of the Nets because other fans do, and reporters play into that because they know it’s what other people want to hear/think. It drives me nuts.

Brook-Brooks-Brooklyn
LET'S DO THIS!

by OneCGuy on Feb 10, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

actually

thibs is prolly gonna play rose and deng for 40 minutes at the ASG

by fabol0us16 on Feb 10, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

They probably won't play too much

He’ll probably play the Miami and Boston guys a lot, to make sure they don’t get a break.

by blackmamba8 on Feb 10, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure

Thibodeau is even eligible this year. It will probably be either Spolestra, Collins, or Vogel – maybe Larry Drew.

Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 10, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He better

I want to see a taste of what’s it gonna be like next year

by Legendairy on Feb 10, 2012 10:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Nets still have the same problems...

Lack of a solid front-court aside from Shelden and Humphries, when Brook returns, we’ll be fighting for the playoffs, he along with Deron will carry this team.

As Vince once said, Brook will be an all star one day, and that day was unfortunately postponed for another year.

And also, leave Dwight for the off-season.

for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...

by Nets-ness on Feb 10, 2012 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

Won't be able to see the game

I am predicting a win, and cannot wait to see MarSwag and Lopez soon!

by njnetsfanatic on Feb 10, 2012 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

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