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Game 23 - Nets vs. Pistons - Wednesday, February 1, 7:30

Lawrence Frank returns to Jersey for the first time as Pistons head coach, but it will be with a team that has the second worst record in the NBA and almost as many wounded warriors as the Nets. The Pistons are 4-19, with only the Bobcats sporting a worse record. They also have the league's second longest losing streak at six, being blown out by the Knicks Tuesday night at the Garden.

Ben Gordon (sore left shoulder), Will Bynum (strained right foot) and Charlie Villanueva (sore right ankle) are out and didn't even travel with the team on its east coast trip. The team's biggest bright spots are two young players: sophomore center Greg Monroe, who is averaging 16 and 10, and rookie Brandon Knight, who's moving up in the first year rankings with averages of 13 and 4.

For the Nets, nothing has changed on the injury front, with Mehmet Okur possibly returning on Friday and the team's two 23-year-old stars, Brook Lopez and Marshon Brooks, with uncertain return dates. The Nets will likely suit up 10 players again at the Prudential Center, where they are 2-6

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lawrence frank and blaming the coach

he won his first 13 games here, is 4-19 there. has let awesome teams, and atrocious teams
The reason: it’s the players!

by jsalkin1 on Feb 1, 2012 7:43 AM EST reply actions  

You're correct...It is the players....

He won his 1st 13 games here b/c of JKIDD…..

by NetFan48 on Feb 1, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

must win

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Feb 1, 2012 7:52 AM EST reply actions  

Welcome back Coach Frank

A good coach who was given poor talent. Wish him the best.

by mt57 on Feb 1, 2012 8:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Always liked Frank

even at the end… I think he got a pretty raw deal.

by Kmart6nets on Feb 1, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Thinking back to last year

DWill was just simply incredible, putting up 13 assist a game with the roster we had. Lopez was in the line up, but we also had graham and Outlaw. Im loving his game right now he just has to take care of those turn overs. I was extremely upset with his play and attitude in the beggining of the year but dude has picked it up.

by nwkiddnj on Feb 1, 2012 8:03 AM EST reply actions  

his attitude is the best part

he’s playing much harder and smiling a lot more

by mbspam17 on Feb 1, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I know Im late…but last night- showed me something I havent seen in years. Probably since the 08-09 season…true grit. The will to win and not to just lay belly up and take the L to a team thats supposed to beat them. Not roll over when half our team is injured. Since the bottom fell out in 09-10..I can finally start to see us getting incrementally better each and every year….we’re on the rise not on the decline. Our time will come soon. I’m impatiently patient.

by lezosamis on Feb 1, 2012 8:11 AM EST reply actions  

why is it that most games at home we cone out flat...

But on good teams on the road we put up a decent fight??

by kupalski on Feb 1, 2012 8:13 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

The Rock is cold

apparantly

If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.

by BrooNets on Feb 1, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Posting the game thread so early

can only mean one thing. . .a BARRAGE of threads today on this whole situation. Gotta say NI, I don’t envy you right now lol. You’re probably going to have your hands full with a million different things until this is all over. Thanks again for making this site what it is.

by netsmetsgiants on Feb 1, 2012 8:22 AM EST reply actions  

this thread is always posted the morning of a game

the first half game thread is posted 30 minutes before the game

by BenJ16 on Feb 1, 2012 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

gotchu

usually not up this early i guess

by netsmetsgiants on Feb 1, 2012 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh noes!

Lawrence Frank is gonna be able to predict all of our offensive plays on the bench! Aaaaand then still do nothing to stop it…

by JohnFromLongIsland on Feb 1, 2012 8:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

what "plays"?

I thought we “give the bawl to darrein(somebody got that pic?)” and hope for the best or when he’s not on court, we count on Farmar Bryant.

by mvmt84 on Feb 1, 2012 8:37 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1 lol!

Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG

by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 1, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Another rookie taken before Marshon

I’m not that impressed with.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Feb 1, 2012 8:28 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

A LOTTA rookies were taken before MarShon though lol

It’s the age factor… I actually don’t even blame other teams for passing on him. Top 15 picks at least. Let’s just be happy that he fell to us and what he became to be and what he will become should he stay with us.

by mvmt84 on Feb 1, 2012 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure they got a good rest last night

Let’s just hope Monroe doesn’t have tons of rebounds and put-backs.

by SadNetsFan on Feb 1, 2012 8:28 AM EST reply actions  

Since it's February now, couple questions...

1. Any ETA on the Brooklyn logo reveal?

2. How many 3 pointers does Morrow have to take to qualify for the 3-point contest?

2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44

And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.

by BigTom on Feb 1, 2012 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

isnt it hardwood classics night?

i think we’re wearing the old school NY Net Jerseys tonight…

by WuSwarM36 on Feb 1, 2012 9:19 AM EST reply actions  

DWill is officially back to being a 20ppg scorer and has breached 40% FG avg this season

Deron’s putting up 26 ppg on 48% shooting the last 6 games (that is, since his last bad shooting game at sub-30% (vs OKC)). That is closer to his 46% career FG% than his abysmal 35% FG earlier this season, so he should be able to keep it up and hopefully his season average will eventually go up to around 45%. He’s also doing it while shooting more, not less — closer to 20 shots a game compared with around 16 earlier this season.

by stenpoint on Feb 1, 2012 9:34 AM EST reply actions  

just under 20 shots a game in those 6 games I mean

by stenpoint on Feb 1, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Which is why I think MarShon should be coming off the bench when he gets back, playing a sixth man role where he doesn’t have to compete with Deron for shots

by mytoemytoe on Feb 1, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree, Marshon can be the focus of the 2nd unit offense. And just as important, DWill and Morrow have clicked as the starting backcourt. It’s a whole lot different when they’re both making shots.

by stenpoint on Feb 1, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

i think marshon and dwill work well together

just as well as morrow and dwill, marshon doesn’t shoot as quickly but he still opens up the floor for dwill

ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE

by Keysta101 on Feb 1, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree

Just give him 48min,jk 28+.

by Zartan on Feb 1, 2012 10:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'll be there tonight

2nd row right behind the bench

"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock

Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards

by Taylor Made on Feb 1, 2012 9:44 AM EST reply actions  

yep

$40 for $250 seats

"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock

Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards

by Taylor Made on Feb 1, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

i bought them yesterday

"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock

Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards

by Taylor Made on Feb 1, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

what section is behind the nets bench, 9 or 7?

by KillaHoose on Feb 1, 2012 10:46 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I'm not sure

I think 9 is the Nets bench. I’m in 7.

"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock

Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards

by Taylor Made on Feb 1, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Sec 9 is Nets bench

Sec 8 is media
Sec 7 is visitor bench

Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG

by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 1, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

As of 11:30 this morning, Sec 9 Row 1 $68.00!

Too bad I can’t go, I would snap up 2 of those.

Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG

by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 1, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

must win

ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE

by Keysta101 on Feb 1, 2012 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

The Nets should've learned something from the painful lesson of the Raptors home blow-out

Just hope the key players aren’t too tired from trying to stage that comeback last night.

by stenpoint on Feb 1, 2012 9:51 AM EST reply actions  

dwill might be exhausted

but Petro will be ready to go!

ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE

by Keysta101 on Feb 1, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

ill be there tongiht as well. Hopefully it wont be too empty tonight and we get the W. Pistons hopefully with injuries and also playing yesterday will help.

by vanhorn222 on Feb 1, 2012 9:57 AM EST reply actions  

scary how good this team could

be if lopez was never hurt

they have pleasantly surprised

Mets/Jets/Nets/Lakers OFWGKTA. FREE EARL. twitter @ampatel11

KOBE BRYANT IS/WAS/WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER A BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYER THAN STEPHEN GRAHAM.

Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.

by YoungMoney24 on Feb 1, 2012 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

Anybody else notice that the Knicks beat the Pistons last night and they are the second leading headline on ESPN?

Rodney Dangerfield is rolling in his grave. So is Karl Malone, who had some interesting things to say about D-will and stars leaving small markets here.

“The issue is keeping [star players]. Think about it. Every time they turn the TV on, they’re broadcasting South Beach and LA. They doing all that, and all their friends are telling them that. No, [Utah] won’t get a [free agent] superstar…”

by mytoemytoe on Feb 1, 2012 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

BSPN

Did they even show Dwills dunk on Hibbert? There is a league wide bias against NJ. We never get those ticky tack fould when driving to the lane like Lebron and Wade. Dwill sees it too

by DJ HeavyDuty on Feb 1, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Dwill gets tons of superstar calls.

by mytoemytoe on Feb 1, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't see Griffin flop that much

I see him try and take charges a lot. But I see a lot of players do that. Hump does that a lot. Hell, I do that a lot. Besides, Griffin isn’t a good enough free throw shooter to flop.

"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock

Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards

by Taylor Made on Feb 1, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Karl Malone's not dead...

"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock

Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards

by Taylor Made on Feb 1, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Of course not

how else could he roll over? But I thought Rodney D was long dead.

Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG

by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 1, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Look at the players in that picture.....

Deja Vu…..Just like frank with the Nets……No One really cares what he has to say ….already…….Look at the lack of interest in their faces and actions……Yeah , Okay…Great Coach…….Detroit really moised up this time….

by NetFan48 on Feb 1, 2012 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

this is Detroits 3rd game in back-to-to-back, Nets cannot lose this. Please

also last night, Deron and Morrow scored all the nets points in the 4th quarter.

“SOMEBODY get healthy!”

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 1, 2012 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

wow i did not know that

dwill played surprisingly well

ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE

by Keysta101 on Feb 1, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Putting up points is not playing well

We can go get Melo. Controlling the game and playing within yourself and having your teammates do the the same and competing is playing well .

by Zartan on Feb 1, 2012 10:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree with the premises but

you gotta find ways to put up points on the board when your teammates aren’t doing it. I think D-Will is finding a nice balance of how aggressive he should be with scoring with these limited talents around.

by mvmt84 on Feb 1, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

why do they want to trade Morrow for an expiring??

He’s our second best scorer at the moment and probably 4th if everyone is healthy. Dwight wants to play with him. His contract is reasonable. KEEP HIM!

"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock

Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards

by Taylor Made on Feb 1, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I do not like the use of the term "wounded warrior"

…for athletes when it started as a term for our soldiers.

Totally different meaning of warrior…. and totally different significance to wounded.

JJ for 3!

by Paul G B on Feb 1, 2012 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

its February already!!

Where is our new logo and colors already?!!

by kupalski on Feb 1, 2012 10:47 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Its funny though

if you read most of Orlando comments, They don’t even mention the Nets. every thing that I have read on their end only mentioned Bynum. Not once I have read about Lopez and brooks. Are they that delusional that they don’t see the sign???

by pip2332Nets on Feb 1, 2012 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

RIP indeed

found shot dead in his Los Angeles home early Wednesday morning in what appears to be a suicide, the Los Angeles Police Department and the county coroner’s office said. He was 75.

"I define passion as extreme emotion."

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Feb 1, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Can i ask why Madison Square Garden is called the " Mecca " ?

The actual Mecca is a place where millions of Muslims go every year to pray .

This so called " Mecca " is a place where dumb basketball fans converge to cheer a team that has not won a playoff game in a decade.

Does anyone know the history of why MSG is nicknamed the Mecca ( or as our NYK brothers call it , DuH GaAdEn )

When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?

by AmbassadorAmeer on Feb 1, 2012 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

?
Madison Square Garden is often called the "mecca," a puzzling term to many today. However, the term "mecca" was first applied to the third Madison Square Garden at 50th Street and Eighth Avenue; "mecca" was later used to describe the fourth Madison Square Garden—the one that exists today at 33rd Street and Eighth Avenue (at Penn Station). The current Madison Square Garden is described as a "boxing mecca" (or "mecca of boxing" or "fight mecca") and a "basketball mecca" (or "mecca of basketball").

http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/mecca_madison_square_garden/

by M I K E on Feb 1, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

good to have you back M I K E

"I define passion as extreme emotion."

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Feb 1, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we just trade for Mayo already

Farmar and Houston’s pick

Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 1, 2012 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

I thought that talk died out

1. Too high of asking price
2. MEM doing well so they want to see how far they can go w/ Mayo

by mvmt84 on Feb 1, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

We need scoring

I feel bad for DWill because he is the only capable ball handler/playmaker on the team. Farmar can create for himself but his court vision is terrible.

I dont think the price is too high. Houston is a borderline playoff team. If they dont make the playoffs then we dont get the pick this year. Farmar has been playing alot of minutes at SG which hurts us because DWill has to defend the opponents SG. Farmar is 6’2’’ 180, Mayo is 6’4" 210. His size would allow DWill to stay at PG at both ends of the floor.

Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Feb 1, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Was that the asking price?

I thought we offer Morrow or Farmar + HOU 1st but that got nowhere… Yeah I mean if we can get Mayo for Farmar and HOU 1st I’d do that in a heartbeat too!

by mvmt84 on Feb 1, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Just a little more patience: It's now February, trading's in March

Farmar’s contract could be a necessary trade piece for the big one.

by stenpoint on Feb 1, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Is sten-point...

nets-point spelled backwards ?

Just curious…

by M I K E on Feb 1, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

lmao!

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Feb 1, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m cracking up, this chick is great

by mytoemytoe on Feb 1, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Ugh Pistons fans

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Feb 1, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I know this was brought up already, but...

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/218696/Deron_Williams_May_Exercise_One_Year_Option_Delay_Free_Agency

"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock

Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards

by Taylor Made on Feb 1, 2012 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

Bye Larry
Nets PR Dept. @Nets_PR
The Nets have signed veteran guard Keith Bogans and have waived forward Larry Owens.

by NetsKiNG on Feb 1, 2012 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

Larry looked lost out there.

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Feb 1, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

i try to erase him from my memory.

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Feb 1, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Good luck to Owens but he has looked wide-eyed and tentative at times out there.

by stenpoint on Feb 1, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow

I liked Owens. There was something about him. Kid played hard on D. I knew he never stood a chance to stay on the team. Best of luck to him.

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Feb 1, 2012 11:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Whether you like King or hate ’em, there is no denying that dude knows how to pick his role players!!! Great signing Billy!

by mytoemytoe on Feb 1, 2012 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

i like it. too…we need some defense.
especially with stevenson out.

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Feb 1, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I just looked up Hollinger profile of Bogans from last season: (It’s not flattering)

Bogans continues to find regular work on good teams, a baffling state of affairs given his limited output in recent seasons. While he’s a quality defender, he’s not all-world or anything and his offense is anemic. Last season he averaged just 8.9 points per 40 minutes and had a single-digit PER for the third time in four seasons. Bogans never shoots unless it’s a wide-open 3 from the corner. He had one of the league’s lowest usage rates, and a third of his shots came from inside the arc. At 30, it’s hard to envision a reversal in his future.

by mytoemytoe on Feb 1, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

it does. That’s why he’s not with Chicago today.

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Feb 1, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

He's not coming to save the season, he's coming as body who can run out there and not get lost.

We should be happy that we have money to do such transactions, regardless how much they cost (sign/release).

by d2d on Feb 1, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

8.9 pts in per 40 minutes ?

If AJ can somehow get him 80 minutes a game we get about 18 points out of him per game…Not bad.

by M I K E on Feb 1, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

How much better than Udoka is he?

"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden

by D Will to Succeed on Feb 1, 2012 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

Udoka was old and slower, Bogans is garbage on offense, but it's a good defender...

right now we need bodys, and Bogans is one of the best available.

2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!

by Heavinsent on Feb 1, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

and udoka could not shoot

by that, i mean he was nowhere near the hoop with his threes

by mbspam17 on Feb 1, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

i was thinking this signing means that morrow or swag is gone soon.

by njnets2010 on Feb 1, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Jesus you’re right, I hadn’t even thought of that. Real bad news if we’re missing D-Steve for any extended period

by mytoemytoe on Feb 1, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Looks like we’ll have another SG start at SF as our defensive wing.

by stenpoint on Feb 1, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly..

is there no decent-defending SF out there?

by mvmt84 on Feb 1, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

great thinking...

I think you are right. What was Stevenson’s initial timetable?

by mvmt84 on Feb 1, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t know but he’s been in and out of the line-up for supposedly minor injuries but it’s getting to be a concern.

by stenpoint on Feb 1, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Who is better?

Frank or Avery? Assume Frank was our coach. Our would be 7-15? or worst?

I give a slight edge to frank. He can teach 7 footers how to rebound…lol

by NetsYankee on Feb 1, 2012 11:58 AM EST reply actions  

For the record

Avery had a great team when he won COY but I doubt Frank would have won 60 some games if he were coaching the same Mavs team instead of Avery

by mvmt84 on Feb 1, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Is beer still 9 bucks at the game ?

More MarShon Please

by kory raymond on Feb 1, 2012 2:24 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

adding extra time to the DVR

this one could definitely go OT

"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."

by jrtallent on Feb 1, 2012 6:23 PM EST reply actions  

no ammo or Petro

"I define passion as extreme emotion."

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Feb 1, 2012 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

*tonight

Morrow because of ankle and Petro

"I define passion as extreme emotion."

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Feb 1, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

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