Howard's List Remains the Same
by Net Income on Feb 1, 2012 7:23 AM EST
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PrintOtis Smith has told Josh Robbins of the Orlando Sentinel that Howard's camp has not expanded his list of preferred trade destinations beyond the Nets, Lakers and Mavericks.
Howard had stirred the hearts of Bulls fans, and before that Celtics fans, with comments about how if God wanted him to play with Chicaog, "it will happen," and noting how he would "always, always" listen if Danny Ainge called.
Over the last week, Chris Broussard, Ric Bucher and Larry Coon have all written or said that the Nets remain the All-Star center's top choice, but no one expects any movement on a trade until after the February 26 All-Star Game in Orlando.
Meanwhile, Stefan Bondy is reporting that Deron Williams has not ruled out the possibility of him playing through his option year next season. D-Will has previously said he would opt out at season's end. He said he and his agent, Jeff Schwartz, will consider all options once the season ends.
- Dwight Howard's list of preferred trade destinations remains the same and does not include Chicago Bulls - Josh Robbins - Orlando Sentinel
- Deron Williams says he will consider everything this offseason, including picking up his one-year option - Stefan Bondy - New York Daily News
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Here is more support for case, and even the Lakers might not be a choice for Howard to extend:
1. Not sure if mentioned last night, but Andres discovered quote in Larry Coon article:
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7407044/playing-dwight-howard-scenarios
A source close to the negotiations says Howard’s representatives warned the Lakers that Howard would opt out of his contract and test the free-agent market next summer — which has the Lakers’ brass understandably nervous.
2. Also, 2 days ago I sent Bucher, the follow 3 tweets on the subject, which he replied YES TO ALL, in a private EMail.
@jerry25a RoboCop
@RicBucher Is the talk about Boston, Chicago and LAC just DH humoring the local reporters, while sending a message to ORL?
22 hours ago via web
@RicBucher And if LAL caved and offered Gasol+Bynum might DH refuse to promise extension with LAL thereby killing deal?
22 hours ago via web
@RicBucher Does DH think that Kobe would B a bad aging teammate? And would DH feel like a failure if he didn’t win title w/LA or match Shaq?
22 hours ago
To which Bucher responded yesterday with:
actually, yes to all of your questions.
Direct message sent by Ric Bucher (RicBucher) to you (jerry25a) on Jan 31, 3:47 PM.
RicBucher
Ric Bucher
Too much coincidence for both to be citing same. Is there info current? I don’t recall Bucher printing anything in past.
If true, then DH not really considering Boston, Chicago, LAC and he isn’t looking forward to teaming with Kobe and following Shaq’s path along with all the pressure expecting to win a championship.
by jerry25 on Feb 1, 2012 7:29 AM EST reply actions 13 recs
You rock!
Now, let’s see how this all plays out . . . .
by Mookie Blaylock on Feb 1, 2012 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
STILL
not getiing my hopes too high, lol. good work though sir.
by netsmetsgiants on Feb 1, 2012 7:56 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry, but some of us must have missed that NI posted the Coon story about LAL yesterday...
but at least we can feel more confident that Bucher feels the same way.
Thank you for the hard work you do for us Jerry.
Dwight’s comments about Boston, etc. were just him waxing poetic on wanting to win a championship, and Boston, Chicago and L.A. epitomize that theme. He was riffing on that abstractly. In practical terms, though, it’s Nets or Bust for Dwight.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
No trade!
Come as a FA if you really want to be here. It will be better for everyone in the long run. We will be able to get to the Finals that much quicker!
by power_njerz on Feb 1, 2012 7:30 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
If you were Howard, wouldn't you want the extra $30 million?
Has to be traded to get it. And why suffer in ORL for those extra 2 months with fans Hating him even more if ORL didn’t get something back.
He can't admit to that.
He likes the idea of paving a new path (Brooklyn) but hard to resist $30 million.
Agree
Especially with the tax difference
by mt57 on Feb 1, 2012 8:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Also, I believe he still has to pay state taxes when he plays road games in states that have state taxes
The state tax difference thing is so ridiculously overblown. It would be a lot of money to normal people, but to somebody like Dwight Howard? Ha!
And he would make it back just for simply being in the NY area.
You don't understand what we are talking about.
The tax difference makes it worse, it does not offset. That is, if he just waits out the season and comes to Brooklyn, he gets the lesser pretax salary AND pays state income taxes off of that. That was the point, not that the tax difference compensated for the difference between the two pretax salaries.
I didn't misunderstand you dude
You made it seem like the tax difference is a big deal by adding “and” after the 30 million dollar salary difference. As if the state income tax makes it a far much bigger problem.
Relative to the actual contract, it’s not a big deal. It’s actually very overblown. You’re basically saying “Oh holy crap, he’s gonna give up 30 million AND pay possibly a few hundred thousand dollars more in state income taxes!” And yeah, he’s paying a few hundred thousand in non-resident state income taxes regardless because of road games.
In a nut shell, I highly doubt that state income taxes keeps any superstar player from going where they want. A marginal player that only makes a million or two that doesn’t sign awesome endorsements may possibly be swayed.
Obviously its not all about winning tho
If it were his list would be expanded to other teams.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
by Atronic on Feb 1, 2012 8:22 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Well, it's never all about winning
Otherwise 12 All-Stars would sign on one team for minimum-level salaries and win championships together for the rest of their careers.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
lmao
Imagine??
They would obv. Go to duh knix
by MetsNetsGiants on Feb 1, 2012 11:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It’s a made up game…
He is still working to support his family.
You can be competitive, want to be the best player of all time, work extremely hard, hate to lose, etc… but it’s ridiculous to think that at the end of the day this isn’t about him doing what’s best for his life, living where he wants to live, and making as much money as he thinks he can….
So weird when people say things like this
How is it weird?
Is it true or false? It’s true. Do what’s best for his family?of course 30 millilion dollars is better for his family, would it make or break them? No. Would he beable to get another monster contract after this one? Yep he’s very young. If I’m right KD passé up some millions for the better of the team. You want to be great then take chances, Lebron took a chance and it’s paying off, you can’t have it all, all the time.
Of course he isn't
If you really think he is, then you’re drinking the Kool-Aid.
by ZR on Feb 1, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
Bulls fans and Celtics fans can keep making up as many scenarios as they like
but it’s very, very, clear to me that Dwight Howard wants to be a Net. All of these reporters claimed that the Nets are still atop Dwight’s list. I really would not be surprised if when he is traded, you hear about Dwight forcing his way here like Carmelo did with the Knicks.
I think it's fine.
Yep, starting to become clearer that it's Nets or Bust
with Dallas just there as a remote fallback.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Not to be repetitive, but I've been saying that even Dallas and LA are just there to be politically correct that he's giving ORL choices for leverage.
Everybody and their mother know that it’s Brooklyn bound, that is why Otis accepted the deal only for the ownership to nix it.
That will only last through AS Game and close to deadline. Otis and BK know this.
by d2d on Feb 1, 2012 7:41 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yep. That may be what is going on.
Before the season, ORL could have had a then healthy Lopez and GWallace + Morrow.
Now Wallace may be playing too well to trade. ORL may not get a better offer.
It should also be pointed out, that the same analysis that Coon presented earlier in the week, about Nets difficulty in having cap space to keep Lopez would apply to Dallas.
That is when you factor in cost of cap holds and draft pic, Amnestying Haywood and not keeping other good players, Dallas would be hard pressed just to sign Howard for the 19 million max on July 1.
Broussard, earlier this week, probably went too far (again), to suggest that Dallas could almost sign both DWill and Dwight.
If above is true that leaves Nets. That may be why in Bucher’s ESPN story, he concluded that it leaves ORL and Nets with putting together a package, which is of course conditional on Brook’s health.
The whole Nets future is conditional on Brook returning strong.
Even if Dallas somehow traded away EVERY contract except for Dirk's
then they’d still be about 4mil short of offering Deron and Dwight max deals. If Farmar simply opts out, then the Nets will have more cap room for them, and will have their own 2012 pick, Lopez, Brooks, Ammo, and Deron
I am told L.A. isn't pursuing this a seriously as the Nets
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Feb 1, 2012 7:48 AM EST reply actions 8 recs
Brooklyn, proky and BK
Huge attraction to players like deron and Howard.
If you're right
Then there really is no competition because Mavs have no trade assets and Smith’s only leverage is to bluff that he will allow D12 to go for nothing or will trade him to someone for a playoff rental and pur the Nets at risk of losing him and maybe DWill in the offseason. But those are irrational from the Magic perspective so I’d be a hard bargainer if I were BK.
by mt57 on Feb 1, 2012 8:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah you can tell
More worried about getting sessions and Kenyon Martin, its funny Kobe is the Lakers biggest strength but might be there biggest weakness in this situation.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
by Atronic on Feb 1, 2012 8:21 AM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
You don't need to be told that
Everyone can tell. Like the insider information nonetheless.
If I were the Lakers I would start thinking about dealing Gasol and (gasp) Kobe and build around Bynum. Their time has clearly passed.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
Kobe has no trade clause
Official Member of DO NOT TRADE MARSHON Society!
To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
and a GIANT contract that will make it super hard to match salaries
especially if they’re looking for youth
Kobe also has a trade me clause
like D12, anytime he wants he just says to the media, I want to play somewhere else.
can you blame them? they are going to have to give up Gasol and Bynum
and in a two team deal the Lakers may be even a worse team after that trade.
if its a multi-team deal, not many teams are going to willingly take Gasol for free to help facilitate
why push a boulder up a mountain in LA’s case?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 1, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Feb 1, 2012 7:51 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
I think there is a difference in what we trade for those comparing to MeloDrama!
D. Walsh would have never given all those players for Melo; it was JimmyBoy who did.
Proky does not get mixed up in day to day operations; he will allow BK to do his job.
We will give players, but we are not giving all the players and 4 1st rounders. We aren’t!!
by d2d on Feb 1, 2012 8:00 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
The bar was set pretty high in the Melo and CP3 trades
Before that, teams couldn’t expect to receive that much for disgruntled superstars (e.g., VC to Nets). It’ll be interesting to see how much the Nets are willing to surrender at this stage of negotiations.
by nynjlawyer on Feb 1, 2012 8:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It is, but this is business afterall. Supply& Demand.
I think Denver had more leverage than ORL. Cause Melo would really consider going to the NETS as he would lose plenty of money.
In Dwights case, is D12 against ORL (there is no third incentive nor choice from what has been reported, regardless of his choices).
Orlando can keep him to bluff on his $30 mill, but they will lose him for nothing, and Nets can wait and see.
Nix could not do that as Melo made it clear that he’s not losing the money. IMO
by d2d on Feb 1, 2012 8:11 AM EST up reply actions
I agree but for different reasons
It’s not about what we have to offer, it’s about our competing offers, and
Lopez+Brooks+cap relief>>>>> Bynum
Even Bynum and Gasol will be 1 yr rentals. There is on reason to give up too much when only a few of our assets are better than anything our competition can offer
I just hope that brooks is untouchable
by Jtart9 on Feb 1, 2012 8:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I know we love these dudes including Swag and B-Lo.
But if you can pair D12 and D-Will it doesn’t really matter of any other players involved as long as we don’t give 4-5 picks in addition.
I think that it will be Morrow OR Swag (not both). Which ever of those stays with us it will have an important role. If Morrow remains with us, I think he will be very valuable in that kind of setup.
The rest of the spots do not have to be superstars.
I think one more superstar takes too much cap; it’s better to have 2 superstar talents and a bunch of good role players, than 3 superstars and a bunch of minimum salaries.
by d2d on Feb 1, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions
Yup you do it
None of those players will have the impact of Howard.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
by Atronic on Feb 1, 2012 8:23 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
NYC luvs stars!
…bandwagon/frontrunning town. They dont have the patience to wait for Brooklyn Nets to build ala OKC or POR. They need to open up that building with star attraction to get the causal NY bball fans take their eyes off the Melo/STAT Show at the Garden.
by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on Feb 1, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Reports said 5 1st
King was gonna give them prudential ,
by Zartan on Feb 1, 2012 9:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I will give a bunch of picks if I don't have to include players (i.e. Swag, Morrow, etc)
Picks will mean nothing for a good team, especially later rounders and what not. You can still play around with 2nd rounders when you’re on top.
I would not, however, give all the Players and the stated picks.
by d2d on Feb 1, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
Picks will be EVEN MORE valuable in the future
because of the new luxury tax system. Teams will be desperate to find decent talent on rookie contracts, especially the elites who are paying tax already. You’re not going to see owners looking to spend as freely anymore.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
Later I heard it was 4 1st and probably 1 second.
One of the ESPN radio guys recited the 5 1sts, which probably spread around.
you misspelled Chicago in the 2nd paragraph.
by KillaHoose on Feb 1, 2012 8:07 AM EST via Android app reply actions
D12
Tomorrow’s Groundhog Day but it seems like Groundhog Day is everyday since Dec 15. I’m frankly tired of following this story. Everytime this guy has a bowel movement we’re left wondering if that means the Nets are at the top of his list. At this point I dont give a sh*t. Whatever will be will be but I’m done checking this site for baseless thoughts and innuendos.
As much as any Net fan would want Howard here you got to think if he really wants to win why would he look to join a team that couldnt win a title in the D League. I hope he lands with us but I’m no longer holding my breadth.
I can relate
Trust me, I desperately want D12 to land with us but damn this story is tiring. Worse than the Melo one, mainly because I truly believe that he wants to be with us unlike Melodrama. But I wish we can just skip a few weeks and be done with this. Hope for the best.
by JackBauerUserID on Feb 1, 2012 9:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hope there is a fastforward button :))
"You may win with offense, but you will never loose by defending.."
OT - the announcers brought it up the other night...
How come Morrow isn’t in the 3 point contest ? And how can he be included?
by kupalski on Feb 1, 2012 8:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I think he is in
Official Member of the "DO NOT ABUSE BROOK LOPEZ" Movement
its not me being bias, but i truly think the lakers dont need Howard at all
what they do need is a PG and another athletic player who can put the ball in the basket
any shot
That DWill picks up his option if we don’t get Dwight, opens the building in Brooklyn, then gets a sign and trade the next summer if we don’t get some talent around him?
by netsfanbq on Feb 1, 2012 8:39 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Can we all just take a moment and enjoy the fact that the best C in the NBA wants to come to the Nets?
Sometimes I just don’t believe the Nets are even in these discussions.
What a change since Prokhorov and BK have come on board. Amazing.
by ZR on Feb 1, 2012 8:50 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
yessir
Mets/Jets/Nets/Lakers OFWGKTA. FREE EARL. twitter @ampatel11
KOBE BRYANT IS/WAS/WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER A BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYER THAN STEPHEN GRAHAM.
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
And now you see why they so desperately wanted A list talent.
IF the Nets can get Howard than by this time next year everyone will have an entirely different perception of the team. Nobody will ever remember 12-70 or all those years of losing pre-Kidd.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
Agreed...and I always understood that
I was big on Nene and Kirilenko because it seemed like Howard was another pipe dream. But it just doesn’t seem like it is in comparison to LeBron is Summer of 2010 and Melodrama last season. Get it done BK!
by ZR on Feb 1, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
If indeed Dwight does come to the Nets, we have to thank Deron Williams the most.
Proky and BK with all the money and deal making and Power Point presentations in the world would have no chance of pulling this off, if Deron Williams doesn’t tell his buddy “the Nets are the place to be, trust me”.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 1, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly, I think d12 will be a net however u wanna slice it. Not even being biased just because I’m a nets fan either.it just makes the most since for him off and on the court to be a net.
by antdatruth08 on Feb 1, 2012 9:01 AM EST via mobile reply actions
something tells me Dwight feels the same
10:30 a.m. on february 23, 2011 woke up with no hope.
12:30 p.m. on february 23, 2011 hope was born
D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
the magic are just waiting till the 11th hour
so that our pick is most valuable
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 1, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know what you guys think but
I believe D will is going to pick up his option to stick around and open Brooklyn and if it doesn’t work out he will head to Dallas.
http://worldaroundsports.wordpress.com/
If Dwight Howard is here, he'll opt out and sign long-term
He’s already stated that publicly.
by ZR on Feb 1, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
if it doesn’t work out he will head to Dallas.
So you expect Dallas to remain $18 mill under the cap through the summer of 2013? I don’t.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
I think DW might be concerned that his poor play this season...
…has affected his value and he would get a better contract after a good year next season, where ever he goes in 2013.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 1, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly
The Magic have no other alternative. They’re not getting anything beyond Bynum from LA and the Mavericks don’t have the assets to make a trade. It’s clear that Dwill and Dwight have been conspiring together to headline Brooklyn and I’m not sure there is anything that can prevent Dwight from coming here in free agency. The cards have been set on the table for Orlando now they have to make a play.
And look at the assets we can give them: Start with Brook Lopez and Kris Humphries (the Magic could negotiate an extension) and Memo’s expiring. That would give the Magic a great young frontcourt rotation of Lopez/Anderson/Hump. The Nets could also include Farmar and Morrow, which would be a good young stopgap backcourt on cheap flexible contracts. Add 3 first rounders (two in 2012) for Howard and Hedo’s contract and tell me that’s not fair?
- The Magic secure they’re future frontcourt.
- Add youth to an aging backcourt
- Receive multiple first round draft picks
- Regain some cap flexibility for a quick rebuild
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
Rec'd
Well done! I agree 100% the best part of that scenario is that we keep Marshon
Especially nice use of bullet points!
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 1, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Best part is we get DH.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 1, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
I still think Brooks is included
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Agreed.
I think when it’s all said and done, a lot of people are going to be disappointed with how much the Nets gave up.
As long as Howard is on the roster, I’ll be okay.
The Nets fanbase will get over it
Howard + DWill = best combination of star talent the Nets have ever had.
by ZR on Feb 1, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
NO shot Brooks is not included.
The real question is, do we have to take on Turk for Hump and give up soo many picks.
by tategeorge on Feb 1, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i'd rather give up Brooks and not take Turk or any bad contracts back
i’d rather lock dwight and d-will up and then watch the agents for every UFA and RFA come flocking to hop on
i’d rather give them Marshon, keep morrow and let them keep Turk and sign RA away(sorry Lopez, lol)
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 1, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
The Magic cannot have everything
They’ll get Lopez and enough salary to match Dwight, but they cannot force Hedo and Duhon’s contracts on us AND take our 2012picks AND take MarShon. After all, any combination of only 2 of those assets is better than what anyone else is offering
Or the Nets will go back to something close to their original offer
And find a player like Gerald Wallace instead of Brooks.
by ZR on Feb 1, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
At this point, it's clear that Howard wants to come to the Nets
So I think there is no way we take on Hedo’s contract. Clippers didn’t need to take on Okafor or Ariza’s contract in the CP3 trade. Marshon, Lopez, Okur, and the 2 2012 picks for only Dwight should be the absolute most BK gives. Orlando has had months to look for better deals than the one originally offered and haven’t found anything yet.
Critical Success!
Billy doesnt have to give in to Orl demands
If the lakers are not as interested as reported and howard has given them no assurance he’d resign, theres no pressure. As how we drove up the price on melo for the knicks theres no one to drive up our price if it really is just us pushing hard. Billy can say no to brooks but yes to maybe another proven player from another team along with our picks and lopez + okur expiring. Some kind of combination. I think billy will try that route before depleting us on our end. No need to.
by 1stnamelastname on Feb 1, 2012 10:06 AM EST reply actions
Personally, I think Brook Lopez and MarShon Brooks for Dwight Howard and four picks might be one of the steals of the century for the New Jersey Nets.
The Nuggets traded Felton, Chandler, Gallinari, 3 productive starters, plus Mozgov and a 2014 first rounder.
The Nets are giving up nowhere near that much to get Howard.
they had to
Denver held them hostage by using us as leverage. If lakers are out of this there is no leverage
by 1stnamelastname on Feb 1, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
You know how I feel about Lopez and Brooks is an unproven rookie.
The picks won’t be that great if the Nets keep playing as well as they played against the Pacers with Brooks, Stevenson, and Lopez back.
I read into DWil picking up his 1-yr option as him indirectly stating maybe Dwight isn’t coming.
What puzzles me is that if he knows D12 is coming to BK, why not opt out and get his max money this summer?
And yes, I am one of those who believe D12 will be a Net, but the DWill thing throws me off.
by JimmyLips on Feb 1, 2012 10:28 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
If Dwight is not coming and Deron picks up his 1 year option...
that is good news for the Nets. It signals that Deron is willing to give the Nets more time to build a contender and will be heading to Brooklyn.
Plan B
This option, goes into effect if Howard stays or ends up w Lakers, goes along with him saying during the lockout. I’ll most likely be in Brooklyn. He can sign a huge one year deal, see if Nets’ pick, plus Marshon/ Bogdon/ healthy Lopez / free agents make them playoff team. Ir be shoced if he wasnt on team next season
by Mr. Brendan Burns on Feb 1, 2012 10:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wonder how much money in side endorsements and such...
Dwight Howard and his people are expecting by coming to Brooklyn NY ?
If Howard is really serious about becoming a FA he must know that there is mucho gold in them there hills in Brooklyn… I don’t care how much these guys talk about wanting to win a championship..If there are countless millions of dollars out there…they will go for the big money. And I’m not talking about 25-30 million…but hundreds of millions.
NI said a few days ago in one of the threads that the endorsement numbers won’t be as high as everyone is guesstimating them to be. I believe his reasoning to support this came from the fact that Howard is in the top 15 of marketable athletes I believe.
by JimmyLips on Feb 1, 2012 10:36 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
No offense to NI but he's not a marketer
He has no idea what is waiting for Dwight not just in traditional endorsement deals but in new media and digital. That’s where the $$ will be; content is king.
by ZR on Feb 1, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Prokhorov has a global plan
Not just NYC endorsements
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Dude
If Prokhorov doesn’t handle the day-to-day of the Nets operations, do you really think he’ll invest much of his time into Dwight’s endorsement deals? Let’s get real here; he doesn’t even show up to games.
Please enumerate on this global plan that you speak of.
by ZR on Feb 1, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
ZR, Elone is probably referring to how Proky said he wanted to make D-Will a global superstar. One can only conclude that if he can potentially do that with Deron, he can do it with D12.
by JimmyLips on Feb 1, 2012 11:12 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
And new media and digital has nothing to do with NYC endorsements
I don’t know where you’re making that correlation.
by ZR on Feb 1, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I was agreeing with you dude
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
All I’m saying is look at Stat and Melo, what new, lucrative endorsements have they picked up since being in NY?
by JimmyLips on Feb 1, 2012 11:10 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I guess you are a marketer?
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Feb 1, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I'm glad your back from your suspension.
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Feb 1, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
If you've been reading between the lines...
…this jives with just about everything that has subtly indicated he may not be as interested in LA as people suggest.
First, there were Jim Buss’ comments (paraphrasing) about “we’ve explored all avenues and if the player doesn’t want to be here, there’s only so much we can do.”
Second, it’s been rumored that he doesn’t want to follow in Shaq’s path and become “just another Lakers center”. He’d automatically have the inside track to being arguably the best player in Nets history (certainly the Brooklyn Nets) if he were to come here.
Third, if LA could really swing a deal around Bynum, why wouldn’t they have done it already, considering Bynum’s history? He could injure himself any day now and it wouldn’t surprise anyone.
by TMS11 on Feb 1, 2012 10:33 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Thats exactly how i feel
If they wanted him, he’d be there already. I dont think they want to give up on bynum for him. They gave up on pau and odom for cp3. I think its more media than anything because its the lakers and he must want to go there more than anywhere.
by 1stnamelastname on Feb 1, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
It dawned on me that a deal could happen anytime, even today
But ONLY if it is truly Nets or nothing. If the deal is for Lopez no matter what, what’s the difference between getting him now or getting him later? To see if he comes back healthy?
What if he’s still out in rehab? Orlando holds onto Dwight and loses him in FA?
They are getting Lopez in a deal no matter what, if it’s indeed Nets or nothing. Perhaps King has some leverage to say “I’ll give you Lopez and Brooks and our 2012 picks now, but if you wait this out, Brooks is off the table. Up to you Otis.”
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by eLonepb on Feb 1, 2012 10:52 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
If it's Nets or nothing, then there is no reason to do a deal now
Why would Orlando trade him before the allstar game, without seeing how Brook comes back from him injury?
by Rodney Buford on Feb 1, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Why do the deal at all.
Just let Dwight ride out this season. Opt out and sign him as a free agent.
We get to keep all our assets, Dwight comes to a solid team with more assets to build a contender.
Because there is no way Orlando lets him walk for nothing. They will trade him.
by Rodney Buford on Feb 1, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Noone is going to trade for him if he doesn't extend.
I see the same scenario as the Raps for dwight.
because what does it matter?
If Lopez comes back and isn’t playing well because of rust, are the Magic not going to trade him??
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Much like the 'Melo situation
The Magic are trying to leverage another team(s) against the Nets to bring back the best haul possible.
I think there’s SOME truth to the whole “don’t want him returning for the ASG in Orlando wearing another uniform”, but I think the main reason is that the owner (rightfully so) is trying to milk every last dime out of Dwight that he can.
Tickets, jerseys, food and beer bought at concessions with said tickets, etc. Once you lose an attraction like that, times are going to be tough, so you can’t really blame him for trying to get every last drop.
by TMS11 on Feb 1, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree. Orlando will try to squeeze every last drop out of the Nets...
and they should. What will be interesting is to see how the Nets react… If they believe Dwight will sign with them in July then the Nets might call Orlando’s bluff and lowball them. Of course at the last minute the Nets will probably give away the kitchen sink in order to acquire Howard before or at the trade deadline…
The song remains the same
I want Dwight Howard as much as the next guy who isn’t 7 ‘1 with goofy hair(3 inches taller than Dwight) and big men and point guards make you perrenial playoff teams but closer(creates his own jumper) wings are essential to championships(see 90s Knicks and 200s Nets-Vince as a net was too on love w damn fallaway)I want my cake and my swag too. Its funny, 2 years ago, when nba came out w new uniforms, there was thread where people raved about Brook’s size and offensive ability potential over dwight- this was pre poor rebounding year. I like Dwight, i just want my cake and my sway too
by Mr. Brendan Burns on Feb 1, 2012 11:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions
ESPN SC reporting that Mike Brown has reached out to Arenas!!!
Is there any chance that they are trying to get him so they can get inside information on D12?
They need a pg badly, and they are desperate.
by JimmyLips on Feb 1, 2012 11:19 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I know they do, but Arenas is not your typical PG. He's not even your guard at this stage!
I just don’t want them to get any inside or edge when it comes to D12 !>!>?
He would come cheaper than them trading for Sessions though. The ‘inside info’ of D12 is he wants Nets and Mavs over LA. Agent Zero doesn’t know anymore than what has already been leaked, I would assume.
by JimmyLips on Feb 1, 2012 11:23 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Am I the only one tiring of these daily Howard reports?
NOT a knock on NetsDaily, who are just doing their jobs and keeping us fans as posted as best they can. But seriously, we get reports almost every day for all different reporters and they change all the time. No real news has surfaced. I don’t think it will until something is actually in the works.
Hopefully we land him. I was impressed with our team last night and hopefully can get a win against a Pistons team who aren’t as good tonight.
No, I'm not tired of it at all
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umm the future rests on Dwight when billy went all in.
by KillaHoose on Feb 1, 2012 11:47 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Of course.
I’ve been saying that. But it’s not like the news today has really any impact. Obviously I care that we get Dwight. But this news changes so often that it’s clear that right now, it really has no bearing what happens. Just a week ago, it was looking bad. Now it’s looking good again. Next week it’ll probably look bad again.
I’m just saying that the daily updates don’t have a bearing on what happens until something actually does happen, which we clearly have to wait until AFTER the All Star Break to see what Otis’ move is.
Be grateful
That this is a shortened season, thereby only subjecting us to a few months of this stuff.
With the ‘Melo-drama, it started in September and ran all the way through March. We’re pretty much getting the abbreviated version here.
Yeah that was worse
Especially because I didn’t even want Melo. But then our teams future wasn’t as at stake as it is now, so shortened season with higher stakes. Maybe a wash with that.
But yes, totally glad it’s not as drawn out.
Keith Bogans to the rescue!
Nets PR Dept. @Nets_PR The Nets have signed veteran guard Keith Bogans and have waived forward Larry Owens.
Cant wait for the Logo to be released
Then the jersey’s designs……..
Then the Howard free agency signing…….
Then the Williams free agency signing……….
Then the Barclays opening……..
Then the Brooklyn Nets taking over New York
Awwww we can but dream :)
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Feb 1, 2012 11:53 AM EST reply actions
Sick!!!!
Love seeing the imaginary schedule laid out. Give us the logos and the colors NI, we know you’ve seen them!!! :P
No problem
The Logo will be the Brooklyn bridge in the background with Williams and Howard in front cradling the Larry O’Brien trophy which is in fact the 1st time any players have been included in a logo before.
The entrance music for every game will be Big Pimping by Jay Z who has in fact agreed to do the entrance live for every single home game right through until 2032.
The colours will be Jay Z blue with pin stripes of Gold throughout the jersey, Proky decided to use real gold from his mine in russia and adidas has in fact tested the jerseys and found it increased the strength of the players wearing them.
I LOVE IT
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Feb 1, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bleacher report is the worst website
Maybe those are Broussards sources.
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by "NetsNation" on Feb 1, 2012 12:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
One thing for sure, is that NetsDaily is the #1 source for comprehensive Dwight Howard information.
Howard stories are “old news” by the next morning.
Too bad most of the so called experts who control the airwaves don’t get the latest news.
Its ridiculous to hear all the announcers talk about Dwight going to LAL and eliminate the Nets because they don’t have enough to offer.
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