Game 10 - Nets vs. Hawks - Monday, January 9, 7:30 p.m.
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Third time's a charm? For the third time in two weeks, NBA scheduler Matt Winick has the Nets and Hawks going against each other. Twice before the Nets have lost to the Hawks, the first time in the home opener by 36 and then in Atlanta by seven five days later.
The Hawks are among the big surprises in the NBA, being the only team to beat the Heat and now sporting a 6-3 record. But they will be without Marvin Williams, who sprained his left ankle in Saturday's win over the Bulls
For the Nets, the injury list is also the news. Mehmet Okur (back spasms) and Damion James (foot) are both out for Monday's game. Brook Lopez (broken foot) gets his walking boot removed this week, but is likely out another month. He is missed.
- New Jersey Nets Game Notes - New Jersey Nets
- Atlanta Hawks Game Notes - Atlanta Hawks
- Getting Inside - New Jersey Nets - Sports Xchange
- Getting Inside - Atlanta Hawks - Sports Xchange
- Hawks-Nets Preview - Noey Kupchan - Stats LLC
- Nets missing Brook Lopez inside - Tim Bontemps - New York Post
- Nets feel absence of Brook Lopez as offense sputters without him - Michael J. Fensom - Star-Ledger
- Brook Lopez on smooth road to recovery - Andy Vasquez - The Record
- Three for all: Atlanta Hawks - Micah Hart - NBA.com
- Hawks want more after good start - Michael Cunningham - Atlanta Journal-Constitution
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B/c I'd rather watch Deron Williams
I wonder if he’s decided which one is showing up tonight… Hmmmm
by Jron on Jan 9, 2012 8:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
deron williams has showed up every game
will anthony morrow, shawne williams, shelden williams, and kris humphries show up?
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by Keysta101 on Jan 9, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I think Shelden, Kris and Anthony have been showing up of late
Now let’s get Shawne Williams going!
by BrooklynNets on Jan 9, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
they've showed up
without their hands and basketball IQ, both would be necessary to make them complete bball players
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 9, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
morrow has not shown up really
hump has, but in the miami game he made too many dumb passes
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Your bad luck
Every time I’ve read a garunteed win on this blog , we lost. I’m not even exaggerating.
I hope it ends tonight. For the record fellow bloggers, if your not good enough to garuntee a win , just hope and wish( see my Jets).
by Zartan on Jan 9, 2012 9:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
agree with everything lol
Mets/Jets/Nets/Lakers OFWGKTA. FREE EARL.
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 9, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
we do realize, these guys just destroyed the Bulls
they are a solid team
they lost to miami without wade or james
hard to tell if they are the real deal or not
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It's a crazy year
So many blowouts of good teams (and bad teams) that really shouldn’t be. The Hawks are a very talented team, but they need their 3 point shooters to be hitting in order to spread the floor enough.
Unlike the Nets, who need their 3 point shooters to be hitting to score any points.
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yea pretty much
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there are also stars putting up pedestrian numbers (not only D-Will)
and mediocre players putting up big numbers, like Kyle Lowry and Andrew Bynum. Things will even out somewhat, but this is a season in which NBA fans will see a lot of crazy things happen, as evidenced by the biggest FA stating he wants to go to the Nets
WOW
He is missed.
Understatement of the year!
by Murse Mike on Jan 9, 2012 8:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
if our shooters hit their wide open shots, we will win
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how much did we lose by last time?
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7.....down 4 with 40 seconds to play, marshon called a timeout when we had none left....close game
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 9, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
oh yea i remember
hmmm so we can win…
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I got mad at Avery when that happened and actually felt bad for the kid
If you are out of TOs you thoroughly go over that with everyone and should have refrained from having a rookie to inbound.
My starting line up would be
DWill, Brooks, Stevenson, Hump, Sheldon Williams
knowing avery it will be:
Gaines, Morrow, Graham (yes avery will get him back), Hump, Petro
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okur still out???
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 9, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
yea, probably won't rejoin team until western trip
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the defensive specialist type of player
It’d be great if he could convert a dunk or layup more than once in 10 tries
I think we should move dwill to the 2 and play tebow at the 1
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 9, 2012 9:10 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
no,
Dwill sucked at the 2, move Tebow to the 3 or 5, that’s where we need the miracles
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 9, 2012 9:13 AM EST via Android app up reply actions 4 recs
only if Tebow sat the 1st 3 quarters
b/c he’s terrible 75% of the time. I guess Jesus doesn’t love him that much
he was in every other start that his team won
then he was terrible for 3 games, all loses, then a single good game, so 75% still works
i think he had no yards in the 1st quarter
and barely 100 in the first half
by the end of the game he had around 400 total
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 9, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone doing Loud & Proud tonight?
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by eLonepb on Jan 9, 2012 9:13 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
yay. the Hawks.
Again.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Jan 9, 2012 9:14 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Petro vs. Zaza. Can't wait.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
"I don’t think they are going to do anything right now because we’re winning," Howard said after a 104-97 victory over the Sacramento Kings improved the Magic’s record to 6-3. "Even if this is the last season, let’s go out hard, regardless."
When asked if he expects Orlando to trade him by the NBA’s March 15 deadline, Howard said: "I don’t think so." If Howard were to try to depart via free agency, the Magic would have the advantage of being able to offer him a fifth year on a new contract worth about $28 million. Howard could even decide to postpone his free agency by a year and utilize the final-season option of his contract (worth $19.3 million) and then leave the Magic in the summer of 2013 if they haven’t already traded him, sources close to him said.
Imagine if this dragged out another year. ugh.
NO ONE in NJ next yar
they’re moving.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 9, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
source?
Mets/Jets/Nets/Lakers OFWGKTA. FREE EARL.
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 9, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
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"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 9, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Opting IN .... is that a joke !?!?
There is no way he will opt IN. He wants out like “out of this world”.
He will be traded by the deadline 100%, unless the owner wants to really screw him with that 5th year and wants to risk on losing him for nothing (you never know with an old dude of 85+ yrs).
by d2d on Jan 9, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
at this point
FA is looking pretty good, i’d rather wait and keeps brooks, brook and our picks
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Fine
Sullinger
Davis
PJones
Drummond if he declares
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 9, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
btw i just found out
Dwill averages 17 points a game and 7 assists…..
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118th in PER though
Marshon is at #23.
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MarShon "Boss Sauce" Brooks
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this season, there are many crazy stat lines
There are stars with average stats (at least by their standards) like D-Will and Rose, people with ridiculously low FG and 3pt %’s, and average players with inflated stats, like Kyle Lowry and Andrew Bynum. I doubt that it lasts throughout the season
this is just in reply to everyone who says
“He averaged 20 PPG in Utah but he can’t score here” these numbers tell a different story
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D-Will is not a scorer
he’s a distributor, He needs people around him to keep defenses honest. It’s like not having a running game in the NFL. Teams will drop back and cover the pass knowing you’re not going to beat them running the ball.
As soon as some other Nets start hitting open looks instead of bricking them, Williams will regain a lot of his effectiveness.
I don't get how people don't get
him scoring through double team and then another help defender coming at him is not the same as
him scoring when it makes sense because teams cannot d-up too tight on him because he can pass to someone and unlike our current team those players would score
i.e. Dwight would look like a horrible player if he doesn’t have any three-point shooters to pass to.
D-Will will re-sign with the Nets
Let’s not forget, no matter where and if Dwight get dealt, he and D-Will will opt out at the end of the year. The Net will have the opportunity to make a pitch either way.
Worst case, the Nets do nothing this season. So going into the off-season, the Nets will have a high draft pick, Lopez, Brooks, AND the ability to sign Williams and Howard to max deals. If the Nets can’t land Dwight, then they can make a front loaded, max offer to a prized RFA.
Dallas cannot offer anything close to that.
How does it fan out for Dwight financially
1. he opts out and sign with us
2. he opts in and sign with us the season after that via FA
3. he opts in and get traded to us and sign extention w/ us
Is there any merit for him to opt in should he not be traded this season, merit big enough to overcome one more year of this headache?
no, there isn't
and option 2 doesn’t work b/c cap space doesn’t last in the NBA. Brook Lopez will be coming off his rookie contract this off-season so the Nets will lose the ability to star far under the cap.
Thanks Mike
Forgot about Lopez’s payday… or didn’t want to remember…
So after this year our “sign a superstar straight up” option is out the window huh?
Just read the SB NAtion Article about the Griz and the 2009 Draft and remembered another underreported part of our curse.
If everyone remembers, we lost the coin toss that cost us the pick to the Bucks. The Bucks picked Jennings, we picked T-Will, and the rest is history.
I have always thought about 2 things in this scenario.
1. Of course we lost the coin toss. It just further validates how cursed we are as a franchise.
2. That is the year that Devin (in possible the last act of Glory for this team) hit the full court shot to beat the bulls. At the time that seemed lucky and things were looking bright. However, that shot also cost us Jennings.
I know we can’t play the what if game, but that stings. Also, we were very high on Lawson, teague, and Psycho T but at the last min choose T-Will.
Uh, what? Lawson in 33 minutes a game is putting up 16.6 ppg, 6.3 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 steals, 2 turnovers and his three point shot has even been off this season so his numbers should be higher.
50% shooting from the field, that is SICK for a little guy like him. He is a very good player and I’d like to see you prove otherwise.
Jennings is a bum, his head is not in it the right way, he trying to play out of his limits
the real shocker that year though was that the timberwolves at some point during that draft had rights to:
rubio
flynn
and lawson
and could have also had
curry
douglas
blair
curry/rubio/lawson: hindsight is a
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 9, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
wow
losing out on a 50% shot of getting a player who hasn’t even proven himself to be an above average point guard makes us a cursed franchise?
I totally have to agree with Murse Mike and his thoughts about this season. 66 games in 122 days is absolutely brutal. There’s going to be a lot of things that make you scratch your head and a lot of exciting basketball.
This season’s playoff run is going to be a gauntlet. You’ll have more time to rest up your players but they are going to be exhausted coming off the regular season, hopefully not injured.
by mytoemytoe on Jan 9, 2012 9:56 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
See you guys at the game.
If you see a Gatoraid,frenchfries, chicken tenders with honey mustard basically skydiving onto the court bail me out, please!
DWill
MARsHON
Stevenson
Hump
Sheldon
use Petro as little as possible…give Jordan Williams more time.
"Beware the Ides of March."
Amazing how bad this team’s backups are that we want to give Jordan Williams more time.
Still, he seems smarter than Petro on the court already, after only a few games. He’s got a big body and he’ll need to put some strength on it to become an NBA caliber back-up big.
He's got good instincts
And doesn’t try to shoot the jumper (Petro’s curse).
Always around the basket or going to the basket and he’s got soft hands. Made some nice catches on the move in the Heat game.
"The Petro Zone" - new section way upstairs
everyone there is stiff
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 9, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'll be at section 9 tonight
Hope we win this time…
JKidd Era 2! Starring D.Williams as the lead actor, Avery Johnson as Byron Scott, and Player X as Player Y.
Let the show begin!
Will we win the equivalent of 12 games this season ?
if you do the math
X / 66 = 12/82
X = 9.6 so about 10 games
lets hope we do
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 9, 2012 10:19 AM EST reply actions
ok
so lineup SHOULD be: deron, brooks, stevenson, hump, shelden
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indeed
Mets/Jets/Nets/Lakers OFWGKTA. FREE EARL.
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 9, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Update on Dwight
basically says ownership has given Otis the OK to trade Howard if his mind doesn’t change and that it’s still unknown if Dwight will even sign in LA because the Nets are his 1st choice.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 9, 2012 10:22 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
it says that the best deal is bynum
i disagree, bynum for howard is a bad deal for the Lakers, but we will see
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i don't think so
Bynum is playing like a man possessed now
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if i was the GM of the Lakers, yes
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right at this second yes
his knees are an issue, but the man is playing well, and who’s to say Dwight would resign in LA? after kobe leaves it will be like playing with the Magic all over again
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i think its better to look at a career
than a few games…and u shouldn’t just pass off his knees so lightly…its a BIG issue
ok right now he seems healthy
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what?
the whole bynum> howard thing?
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Yes
not a single GM would even think twice about trade Bynum for Howard. It’s a no-brainer.
The only thing Bynum has on Dwight is a SLIGHTLY better offensive game/FT shooting. Stats from 4 games this season can’t be used in this argument either.
we will see
I don’t see LA doing that…and why would the Magic take that if Bynum isn’t good? Honestly i believe Lopez is better if not, just as good as bynum
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Bynum > Howard
and Lopez > Bynum
therefore Lopez > Howard
Im confused
no offense to Nets fans
but I think that 90% of people outside the Nets fan base would choose Bynum over Lopez. Still, the Nets might be able to offer more if they include Brooks at the trade deadline.
and i have a solid fear that MarShon may very well turn out to be the next "Kobe like" player
10:30 a.m. on february 23, 2011 woke up with no hope.
12:30 p.m. on february 23, 2011 hope was born
D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think all fans tend to get a little overexcited about their young players
As a Knicks fan, people were constantly saying that Gallo was the next Dirk, and now everybody thinks that Shumpert is the next Wade/Westbrook. Its very rare to find a super star that low in the draft. Brooks is playing very well, but its very unlikely he will meet the unrealistic expectations people have for him. Howard might be the 2nd best player in the NBA right now.
Brooks reminds me more of Kevin Martin than anyone else
Has the potential to become an elite scorer in the NBA. He doesn’t have the all-around game that players like Kobe/Wade have though.
Very 1 dimensional. We can draft another scorer late in the draft easier then it is to get Dhoward.
"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"
Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...
Much easier
Dwight Howard is the clear #1 center in the entire NBA, and probably the best defensive player in the league. Its not easy to find elite scorers, but its much easier than finding a dominant C. The Nets should do whatever it takes to get Howard.
I don't think so.
He had a number of great passes that would have been assists if his teammates had made chippies. His improvement each year in college demonstrates that he continues to learn. I don’t think Brooks is a superstar, but I think he will have a long and effective career in this league. I’m not ready to give him up yet, unless Lopez is sticking around.
by BrooklynNets on Jan 9, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Passing can be improved, but I dont know, I just dont see it. He misses a lot of passes in favor of the shot.
I dont remember what Kobe played like in his early career, other then when he air balled that shot in the playoffs.
"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"
Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...
Marshoon seems to have tunnel vision, either he made up his mind to pass or shoot, but that choice was made before the play unfolded.
"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"
Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...
Not that I know of, but their games are incredibly similar
Brooks even has a chance to be better than Kevin Martin. But comparing him to the two best shooting guards in the NBA is crazy.
I think MarShon passing is going to be good I've seen him have a couple of nice passes ruined because our bigs can't catch
Also MarShon will most likely bea mucht better defender than Martin added to that he’ll have a nice post up game. I agree he shouldn’t be compared to Kobe just yet ( don’t have a problem with him being compared to a young flawed Kobe before his prime tho) but I don’t think the Martin comparison is all that good
I think Martin is a very underrated player
He averaged 24 points per game at one point, gets to the line at will, is a good 3-point shooter, and is able to get his shot off any time he wants. The biggest holes in his game are his defense and his passing, which is pretty much the same as Brooks. If Brooks turns out to be a better Kevin Martin, he will be the steal of the draft.
Not sure you have watched BRooks hard enough
HE has a better all around game than Martin, problem is players around him have been dropping passes and missing shots. Check out the indiana game on he marshon channel on youtube that pump fake and bounce pass to Petro as gorgeous but Petro could not finish.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
That's too much
Howard is going to walk anyway. The asking price for Howard will be lower than before the season. The Magic waited too long, they are losing all their leverage.
I say that the Magic will have to either pick between Brooks and Lopez and anything aside from Deron they want.
by BrooklynNets on Jan 9, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Except they can't get rid of Hedo, Duhon, etc.
So really they’ve just made themselves worse and maintained zero flexibility to win with.
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I disagree
Right now, Bynum looks arguably better than Howard. If the Lakers offer him to Orlando, the Nets will have to give up pretty much anything Orlando asks for. Orlando isn’t trying to rebuild.
Well first of all
Bynum is not better than Howard by a LONG ways. Yes, right now Bynum is playing pretty well but to say he’s arguably better than Dwight Howard??
That’s like watching the first part of this season and saying Jeff Teague is a better PG than Deron Williams.
Second, you still haven’t addressed how the Magic are unloading their heavy contracts?
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Not saying that Bynum is a better player than Howard
But right now he is arguably playing better than Howard. Thats how good he looks this year!
I don’t think the Magic do unload their contract, because they don’t want to rebuild. It seems like their plan is to add vets that allow them to be a competitive team right now. If that was their plan, they wouldn’t have signed Baby and J-Rich to multi-year deals.
In the deal Otis agreed to
The were unloading Hedo & Duhon.
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No, it's not
Bynum is good, and possibly better than Lopez, but the gulf between the two is not very large.
The Nets can offer better picks, have more flexibility to bring in other teams and expand the deal. Lakers have what? Bynum or Gasol. Most likely just Gasol and a terrible pick or two.
by BrooklynNets on Jan 9, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Only Nets fans think that Lopez vs. Bynum is a real debate
I agree the Nets can offer more, but not without giving up Brooks and picks along with Lopez.
Keep in mind that Bynum has played alongside all-world players
Kobe, Pau.
Seasoned pros like Odom, Fisher.
He’s also played under one of the best coaches in NBA history.
Ask yourself if Lopez would look better in that system.
Playing under Phil Jackson alongside star players has definitely helped his development
But it still doesn’t change the fact that Lopez has huge holes in his game, and right now Bynum doesn’t. The only real concern is his injury history.
What holes do you see in his game?
Centers generally don’t have jump shots. Bynum, like a lot of centers, lives in the paint. I guess FT shooting, but he is a very similar player to Dwight Howard. Most teams would take a bad FT shooter with no jump shot, over a bad defender who is a weak rebounder. Not trying to sound like I’m hating on Lopez. But right now Bynum looks like a significantly better player.
Not this MOISO again...
Most teams would take a bad FT shooter with no jump shot, over a bad defender who is a weak rebounder.
Consider last season an anomaly with his bout with Mono, k?
If you do the research, symptoms of Mono can persist for 6-12mo.
Look at Brook’s stats from 2009-2010
*Blocks: * http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/blocks/year/2010/position/centers
He’s #7 ahead of: Noah, Duncan, Horford, Gasol
*Double Doubles: * http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/double-doubles/year/2010/position/centers
He’s #6
Steals: http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/steals/year/2010/position/centers
He’s #9
Assists: http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/year/2010/position/centers
He’s #5
Rebounds: http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/year/2010/position/centers
He’s #10
Scoring: http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/scoring-per-game/year/2010/position/centers
He’s #1
Brook Lopez has done more with less talent around him. He’s been the centerpiece of a terrible set of Nets teams and has produced above and beyond when he’s been healthy. The bout with Mono was really devastating career-wise. Published NIH studies show that many people who contract Mono still show symptoms of insomnia, fatigue, and muscle weakness 6 months later (number was above 50% from one study I recall).
Brook has been a freaking man about this and never blamed Mono, but it’s clear that his game suffered last year and we’ve all forgotten just how good he is.
This is becoming a completely different arugment
All I’m saying is that the Nets are not going to get Howard for Lopez and few picks. Thats laughable. Brooks will definitely be gone as well. Orlando could probably just sign Lopez as a free agent. They are going to need more than that to get a deal done.
Until this season I think it was a legitimate debate
And despite how good Bynum is playing now I don’t think it’s wise to compare his play to Howard’s. Howard dominates a team with his presence and affects the entire game. Bynum can be dominant, but the Lakers are still showing signs of slowing down with him in addition to Kobe, Gasol, and Metta World Peace.
If the Magic want the best player, fine. They can try to get Bynum. But they will be THE SAME TEAM WITH BYNUM INSTEAD OF HOWARD. They take any Nets package and they can rebuild with good pieces. That’s better in the end then two years of Bynum (and then having him walk too).
by BrooklynNets on Jan 9, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
And don’t get me wrong I know Bynum is good
mostly because of his physical dominance. Lopez has a quirky game that will either be deadly on the right team or will ruin the offensive flow on a poorly coached team. If I’m the Magic GM I’m not going to overlook Lopez because Bynum is big and has all the LA hype. But who can predict what Otis Smith is thinking? Guy makes some pretty big head scratchers.
by BrooklynNets on Jan 9, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
They don't want to rebuild though
I think they believe they could win if they add some pieces around Howard. Otherwise they wouldn’t have traded for Baby and re-signed J-Rich.
What they want and what they'll get is totally different
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by eLonepb on Jan 9, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what does that even mean?
They can choose the deal they want. If the Lakers decide they are going to offer Bynum for him, the Nets are going to need to beat that offer.
You're assuming Dwight Howard...
has no say in the matter. Maybe Howard like Carmelo has a strong preference ? We have seen how that worked out.
and we saw that the Knicks still had to give up a lot to get him
I’ve said the whole time the Nets have the best chance to trade for him. But its not going to happen without giving up Brooks.
exactly people have to realize that if we trade for dwight, brooks is going to have to go also because he’s our only other valuable trade chip
thats all I am saying
I’m not trying to hate on the Nets, or any of their players. But its nieve to think that you are going to trade for Howard without giving up basically anybody Orlando wants outside of D-Will.
You may be right...
How do you like the Knicks so far this season ?
Give us your take on what you’ve seen so far.
I think there is a lot of work to do
Amar’e has to adjust to playing with true C, which is something he isn’t used to. I think that our biggest concern though is the play of our guards. Shumpert has shown the ability to run the point in minimal playing time, which is a huge relief. But Fields and Douglas have done a horrible job adjusting to the slower paced offense. When Davis is healthy, I think we can be a top 3 team in the East, because of our frontline. But there is going to be a big adjustment period.
has it not already been accepted
that while the nets are 1st choice, he’d also extend with the lakers or mavs? since when did that stop being the case?
Howard wants the Nets...
Teams always ask players and their agents to name at least 3 or 4 teams they might consider so they can bargain with the team the player reallly wants.
That’s how the Nets got played by the Nuggets last year.
one thing to be clear about between Melodrama and Dwightmare
While there may be lots of similarities, the difference is that everyone and their mother knew we were throwing a bunch of assets to Denver and they used those “facts” to get the Knicks to strip their team. The Lakers so far have yet to truly offer Bynum and Gasol. I don’t know that Orlando will take Bynum plus minor to useless assets over whatever the Nets offer, nor do I think Orlando or the Nets even know at this point. With that said, I believe the Nets are in the drivers seat should D12 become available. IF the Lakers or Dallas come with a real offer that trumps the Nets, only then will we have to think about stripping our squad of most of it’s assets.
absolutley
we are gona have to load alot of players into the trade. but Billy King is quite good at multi team deals
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D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Depends on a multitude of variables.
1) Are the Magic willing to do Howard for Bynum straight up?
2) Do the Lakers have any interest in trading Bynum, even for Dwight? (Buss drafted him and has stuck behind him.)
3) If Lopez comes back and balls out, the Magic aren’t going to be able to say no to Brook Lopez and Marshon Brook, LEAVING OUT THE FIRST ROUND PICK.
I’m excited as the next Net fan about Brooks but if Lopez + Brooks get us Dwight Howard we do it as soon as we can. Keep the first round pick which will be 20-25 and build from there.
Yeah...
If Lopez comes back and balls out, the Magic aren’t going to be able to say no to Brook Lopez and Marshon Brook, LEAVING OUT THE FIRST ROUND PICK.
I think they’ll still be some trepidation about that foot — the history of big-men with foot issues is expansive. On the other hand, they won’t really have an alternative. Hopefully, Lopez comes back and goes balls deep (meaning: he improved his outside shot a little).
Lopez' foot injury is on the periphery, not the weight-bearing part of the foot
Therefore, his injury is not comparable to the career killers of people like Luke Walton and Yao, it’s comparable to Pau’s and Robin Lopez’, who never re-injured it.
And you can’t make a blanket statement like
the history of big-men with foot issues is expansive. On the other handwhen comparing Lopez to Bynum and not mention the ever larger list of athletes, 7 ft tall or not, that have knee issues.
Dwight: I’ll only sign with the Nets
Otis: Billy, I want the first round pick.
Billy: Otis, you have to trade him soon. He wants to leave.
Otis: I’ll trade him to the Lakers!
Dwight: I’m not going to the Lakers.
Otis: Damnitt!!! Billy? You still there?
by mytoemytoe on Jan 9, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lol.
The Nets are giving up the house or they’re giving up nothing. Plain and simple.
as we have shown in every megatrade neogtiation
we are desperate and will give anything. literally anything for a star
For Dwight?
As we should.
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Right, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to negotiate them down.
I see OrangeEater’s point- Billy King is probably just going to offer the house. My point is that I think a good GM could get away with keeping the first round pick.
No way he doesn’t part with both Brooks and Lopez though. That’s the only way to convince Orlando that they are getting value at least somewhat close to Andrew Bynum and it is coming at a cheaper price tag.
disagree
if we are lucky enough to get Howard.. be prepared to trade an embarassing amount of riches…
Lopez, Brooks, our 2012 lottery pick ,Rockets pick, and a future first (or two) as well
I don’t get it. If you’re confident Dwight wants to be in New Jersey, why should Jersey have to sacrifice their whole team?
I know what you THINK is going to happen, but if Billy starts out offering the whole house then he’s a terrible deal-maker.
The Nets might just be able to squeeze the Magic.
a few points
1 We were prepared to give 5 first rounders and Lopez before the season
3)
Thus, saying we will pay a lot is not so far out there. The only thing that changed is the Lakers have more to offer because Bynum is playing great.. in fact is the 2nd best center in the NBA.
oops
2) we were desperate for Melo
Problem is.. I think we are afraid to take ti to free agency,,, we want both beforehand
What are the chances that just Deron leaves to go to Dallas or somewhere after the season? 10% if we go by his word
What are the chances that BOTH Deron and Dwight leave together? Has to be almost zero.
Getting both this season is a must and the Nets know it..as does Orlando
The compromise could be we don't take back Hedo
gives us flexibility… because 1 big 3 of Deron/Dwight/Hedo is a 3 seed at best in the East..can be as low as 6…
Bounce Howard from the game 9with foul trouble) and we have the same bad team we have now
First of all we are not taking back Hedo's contract
that ship sailed when the Nets used up their cap space and from all indications the Magic are not interested in clearing their own cap. The Magic want talent and not draft picks and space to stay relevant in their new building. If they wanted the pick, they would have traded Howard before the season and been a terrible team.
Second, they’re not going to get the value they would have before the season. Billy was offering a King’s ransom to get the deal done fast. The Magic bet the farm that they could convince Howard to stay beyond this season. Now it is clear that is not going to happen and it has been made public that Howard has a strong desire to be in Brooklyn. The Magic have lost so much leverage.
This isn’t the Carmelo situation because there is no team to drive the price up like the Nets did with the Knicks. Sure the Lakers can give what “experts” believe to be the superior package, but they don’t seem very inclined to do so at this point.
by BrooklynNets on Jan 9, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
And don't get me wrong I know Bynum is good
mostly because of his physical dominance. Lopez has a quirky game that will either be deadly on the right team or will ruin the offensive flow on a poorly coached team. If I’m the Magic GM I’m not going to overlook Lopez because Bynum is big and has all the LA hype. But who can predict what Otis Smith is thinking? Guy makes some pretty big head scratchers.
by BrooklynNets on Jan 9, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
it just gets me mad because all these columnist and reporters make it seem like bynum fro dwight would be the greatest trade ever and is equal. nah man dwight is an mvp candidate every year bynum isn’t enough for me to trade dwight
and columnists also talk a lot about the potential of
JJ Hickson and Taj Gibson, but never Brook Lopez or Greg Monroe. They feed the stories that big markets want to hear, whether they’re true or not
Today is the first day Marshon can be traded
Jus sayin
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idc what anyone says if otis told me to deal marshon
Ill tell him find a river and jump in it noway josee
by Pure baller15 on Jan 9, 2012 10:47 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Dwight or MarShon?
Take your pick
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 9, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
marshon and dwight it possible
by Pure baller15 on Jan 9, 2012 11:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
There's no indication that the Magic even want MarShon
they have J-Rich and Reddick locked in long term. They don’t need more wing scoring
All this means is that this guy will punish us instead.
johnschuhmann John Schuhmann
Hawks say Marvin Williams is out for Mon @ NJN & Wed @ IND. Didn’t travel.
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by D Will to Succeed on Jan 9, 2012 11:03 AM EST reply actions
That's actually kinda huge
He’s been pretty moiso good at 3’s and our biggest weakness on D is against the 3.
probably means McGrady starting
need to keep him from getting a hot hand
rough him up for talking trash
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Guys are knocking Brooks all around game...
He did not force shots, made a few nifty passes that teammates missed open shots and was by far our best LBJ defender. What are you watching?
he went right at lebron too on a fastbreak on saturday
and there was absolutely contact, but a rook is not getting that call….gotta admire his fearlessness
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 9, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
LBJ had problems scoring against Brooks...
And had two turnovers. Much more impressive than his offense.
Brooks is not just a scorer... which is why I don't see the Kevin Martin comparisons
dude hustlles, plays D, steals & blocks.
he become a REALLY good SG.
Was no contact but he did goal tend
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Grrrrreeeeaaatttt
that just means i gotta listen to the guy in front of me say “OK, TMAC, OK…..OK TMAC YOU GO BOY, THATS MY DUDE RIGHT THERE TMAC” more often than usual
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 9, 2012 11:10 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
not only did i hear it, i forwarded it to everyone i know.....hilarious
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 9, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I guess you didn't sit near at the home opener
it was more like,"YOUR WASHED UP! COCKEYED FREAK!!YOU SUCK GET OFF THE COURT!!!
You play to win the game!
by stevieboyNETS on Jan 9, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Re: Bynum vs Lopez and a package
Bynum playing great is interesting. Bynum for Dwight straight up almost sounds fair. In general, in the NBA, the team getting the best player wins. Thus, Bynum trumps anything the Nets can trade.
The only wild card is the Draft pick factor. If our pick is a top 5 pick in this draft, Lopez, the pick, Marshon, and more may be sufficient,
Orlando played this perfectly. If they wanted to trade Howard, waiting until the deadline makes so much sense. It kills our season, so our pick will be good. Plus, they can get marShon
Bynum is the best chip available...
Questions are:
1) Does his 1-year contract discount his value?
2) Value of Brooks and Nets #1 pick.
3) Does Howard really want Nets exclusively or at least by enough to make Lakers balk?
4) If Howard and Deron are committed to playing together…not possible on the Lakers.
Not the only wild card
How do the Magic unload their bad contracts in Duhon, Big Baby, Hedo, etc in a Bynum for Howard swap?
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that assumes Otis cares about the contracts
He may not.. There was an article somewhere where Otis said it wasnt a necessity.
Swapping Bynum for Howard at this point doesn’t make Orlando MUCH worse.
And if we have a big 3 of Dwight/Hedo/Deron we will never win a thing. When Dwight is in foul trouble.. our offense is as anemic as the team right now (but likely without MarShon)… will be interesting to see if we take Hedo back. We would have no chance to beat Miami or Chicago with that big 3 and little to no youth or cap flexibility.
Should have been my point number five...
Magic have no flexiblity with Bynum for Howard, which increases chance of Bynum leaving.
This is true
Bynum for Howard is a great deal for the Lakers, but not the Magic.
Lopez + Brooks + tons of cap relief + 2012 lottery pick… a pretty good coup. They may not win right away, but their fanbase will likely be highly energized with the potential of Brooks and whoever they get in the first round of the stacked 2012 draft.
It’s why I really hope beyond anything that we get Dwight as a FA.
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i have been arguing this same thing all morning
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 9, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Bynum is overrated b/c he's on a good team, Lopez is underrated b/c he's on a bad one
Lopez on the Lakers would be just as good as Bynum, who is one of many people this season who are putting up inflated numbers, and who also has never seen a double team in his life.
Lopez was great without any team around him, imagine what he could do with several years of Kobe, Pau, Odom, and Artest around him… probably a lot more than Bynum, who wasn’t even with the team for half their playoff runs
Yup.
Take a look at Brooks 2009-2010 numbers before his bout with Mono:
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/scoring-per-game/year/2010/position/centers
He was a top tier center for sure and on a team like the Lakers with Kobe, Pau, Odom, Fisher, and coached by Phil Jackson, he would have had numbers even better than Bynum. Lopez is flat out a more talented and skilled player. He’s not as physical as Bynum, but he makes up for it with a better offensive repertoire, better range, better passing, and better free throw shooting.
But doesn't that work the other way too
Lopez is our top scoring option but it is not the case with Bynum…
I believe Lopez is better and has a better upside than Bynum but just saying.
dude....not only did i hear it, i forwarded it to basically everyone i know
pretty hilarious
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 9, 2012 11:12 AM EST reply actions
I would love to play a few games NOT against the Hawks….
"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"
Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...
Does Denver, OKC or Clippers sound better?
it’s just getting worse…
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
Nets are annoying... joking...
But seriously, if Nets want to have a chance, they better start Shelden, make JWill the first big off the bench and keep Petro warming the bench.
I’m done with this Shawnee experiment, he clearly is a bust and I can’t stand watching him on the floor, at least DJ can defend.
Go Nets!
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
I agree if Sheldon learned how to finish more shots he'd be a very solid backup
He plays with heart clearly. I wish Petro were gone. This is his last year right? Right??
I agree, he is playing tough
But he’s not making the shots he’s supposed to. Morrow wasn’t either but has since turned it around.
There’s time for Shawne.
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Net Income--maybe make this a thread but here's a huge MSNBC article summarize Prokorhov
Just placed up five hours ago and basically summarizes everything in his life from birth to Nets to President Run.
one of the only good things msnbcs ever done
at least its something to occupy my study hall haha…looks like a good read
LOL let's just say
I’m fairly confident he’s read this article.
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They are stealing your work, obviously
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Did the Nets practice yesterday? Another practice and I think the Hawks better watch out.
by ispartan on Jan 9, 2012 11:27 AM EST via mobile reply actions
In case you are not being sarcastic...
DWill has been playing with a different mentality since their first practice and it turned into a win against Toronto.
I’m confident they will pull things together real soon, they have the talent.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
the talent? to do what?
lopez is hurt, okur is hurt, and when fully healthy we are not that good to begin with
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by BrooklynNets12 on Jan 9, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
to make the playoffs...
*As you said, this is a injure plagued team, if healthy we can compete with any but 2 teams in the East, that being the Heat and Bulls.
*I have confidence DWill will get to that superstar level and he will keep us in the hunt for a playoff spot until Brook returns.
*Brooks, Morrow, Farmar, Stevenson, Humphries, Okur are all good pieces of a good squad.
*We are much better than last year, and we kept in the playoff hunt until the last two weeks of the season.
*Also, east is not that though.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
when healthy.. we are an 8th maybe 7th seed...IMO
dwight or bust
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by BrooklynNets12 on Jan 9, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
it's my opinion also...
Nets are 8th seed… that would give us momentum going to Brooklyn and free agency with Howard awaiting.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
Sarcastic, not really
I am kidding a bit, but I am serious in wanting to know if the team had a full practice because you could really tell the difference against the Raptors. BTW. I think we will see the real DWill soon, he just needs some time with this team. As I recall, he was a bit of a bust during his first couple of weeks in Turkey, then became a basketball demi-god.
by ispartan on Jan 9, 2012 12:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This year is the Perfect Storm for a bad season.
George Clooney couldn’t even pull the Andrea Gale out of that storm. Avery Johnson is no George Clooney.
I very much love Brooks. I don't want to give its Orlando. Deron and Brooks should be inviolable. Allow to them to choose from all the rest
I don't speak English
I'd love Orlando to let Dwight walk...
Let their delusion ride all the way through the playoffs
Despite it the second person of league wants to play with it
I don't speak English
by RussianNets on Jan 9, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL This
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 9, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
2 wins is better than 0
Washington is seriously on track to break our losing streak to start the season record
John Wall doesn't look like a game changer as many expected...
I don’t see all-star potential in him… Favors will be the best pick, shame he won’t be with the Nets.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
gotta remember...this is only his 2nd year
and he’s only 21
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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 9, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I remember...
everyone thought he would make an instant splash like Lebron did and… so far it has been only hype.
I agree it’s still early to judge though.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
they have some winnable games coming up
Toronto, 2 against philly, one game against bobcats (18th game)
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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 9, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Philly is pretty good
don’t underestimate them.. Chris Mannix loves them.. said they will have an “elite” backcourt in a few years with Holliday/Turner.
no doubt they'll finish with a borderline 500 record
but back to back games one at home and one away are hard to win….and it ain’t crazy to think WASH can pull one out
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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 9, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
he's due back from turkey any day now
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 9, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
I think any NBA superstar could have torn up Turkey.
In fact, I wonder if his stint over there has planted the seed in his head that he’s some kind of elite scorer.
I firmly believe he knows that he's not an elite scorer
but the team’s lack of talent and brook’s injury forces him to get away from his game and try to do more on the scoring end.
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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 9, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
When do our shooters hit open shots
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Apparently, when they play outside the US
by ispartan on Jan 9, 2012 1:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I honestly think the Magic will hold on to Howard thinking they have a title shot.
I dont see him opting in though, I definitely see him leaving.
Dream come true
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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 9, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
What about
Farmar, Petro, 2 Second Rounders and cash for, Juan Howard, James Jones, Gladness, and Eddy House’s Contract.
isnt it better for us if we keep losing?
i know its bittersweet, but we will have a high draft pick if we do keep losing and that will be attractive to Orlando..
#MarSwag9
buck fitches.
not in this situation
…nets need to show their short and long term plan is headed in the right direction. BK may think Brooklyn will sell itself, but I’m not buying it. Knicks needed to get Amare first before MSG became a destination and even then, they had to strip their team to get Melo.
So Nets need to have that winning environment in place before this season ends.
as long as they win their last game
in between doesn’t matter much
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 9, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
who do we have this week?
#MarSwag9
buck fitches.
by "NetsNation" on Jan 9, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
And according to my Comcast Guide
We’ll get to watch Devin Harris take on Chauncey Billups.
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Reminder...(NAS)
Armor take on the Los Angeles D-Fenders today at 3:45 p.m. which will be aired live on NBATV.
with Deron, Hump and Brooks playing
it will be at least watchable and competitive. Shelden Williams has been pulling his weight pretty well too. If Shawne starts hitting some shots, we might have a shot. Someone has to step up in addition to the usual suspects in order for us to win.
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Kiss Okur Goodbye!
Once you have a bad back, you always have a bad back. He won’t play more than twenty games this season AND Djames’s injury is chronic too. I hope MarShon doesn’t re-injure himself. I’d rather he sit this one out too. Who is going to fill our need for a small forward?
I’m still available. Have Billy King just call me. (561) O-L-D F-A-T-G-U-Y
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I have to disagree with you
You’re taking his back injury totally out of context. He had back spasms supposedly, meaning involuntary muscle spasms. Muscle injuries are relatively easy to correct. It all depends on the cause of the spasms though. A few seasons ago, Lebron also missed time due to back spasms b/c he had a growth spurt. Amare had a similar problem during the playoffs, and he’s back playing now too.
Degenerative problems with the back are the serious ones, like the one that Baron Davis has. And didn’t the Nets already announce that that he’ll be back (no pun intended) next week?
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