Tables Turning in Orlando?
by Net Income on Jan 8, 2012 9:11 AM EST
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PrintNets officials remain quietly confident that they will wind up with Dwight Howard, either in a trade or free agency and, despite the ugliness of this season, will be able to turn the Nets into a superteam by the time they arrive in Brooklyn 10 months from now.
But Magic officials are still hopeful they can change Howard's mind and get him to stay and add pieces around him. WKMG in Orlando, in fact, reported Saturday night that Howard "may be rethinking his trade request" and "has been heavily recruiting New Jersey Nets point guard Deron Williams to play with him in Orlando". Furthermore, the station's sports director David Pingalore reports "the Magic are trying to trade for Williams".
No other media in Orlando, New Jersey or elsewhere has confirmed the report.
- Sources: Howard rethinking trade request - David Pingalore - WKMG
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These delusional ORL hacks just want some attention
Don’t give it to them. This is the same buffoon who said Dwight had agree to an extension with the Magic prior to the lockout.
just because news isn't pro-Nets does;t mean it isn't true
You don’t think Orlando is trying to get Deron? Of course they are. Don’t think we would trade him.. but surely they are trying.
Is Dwight changing his mind? If “he wants to win”.. better chance there than here, at least so far.
by orangeeater on Jan 8, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
just because it is anti-Nets it doesn't mean it's true
see how easy it is?
again, this is the same clown that reported Dwight was going to extend in ORL.
When someone credible backs this up I’ll start to worry. Anyway there’s zero chance ORL gets DWill.
you're giving this clown the benefit of the doubt?
some of you accuse people of only believing what is pro Nets, well some of you guys here are giving the benefit of the doubt to a moron who recently was flat out wrong on Dwight extending. I’m sure most people here hadn’t even heard about this moron in their whole lives. If this was a credible national writer reporting this I would believe it.
you think so ?
I sometimes have to question some of the espn guys with their “sources” or ken berger with his “quoting someone with knowledge of d-will tendencies”. Starts to sound ridiculous and like a big stab at sensationalism
?
Sports reporters do make up things and say them to help out teams they have relationships with. See: Chris Broussard.
If "he wants to win".. better chance there than here, at least so far.
I don’t see that. New Jersey or Orlando with Dwight Howard is a middle of the pack at best in the east, at least for this season. Long term the Nets will have more flexibility to put a title contender on the floor. But this is just some local radio buffoon, don’t listen to what he is saying regardless of content.
That being said, there is a campaign by the Magic to portray Howard as waffling on his future. The Magic know their big man and that he is prone to changing his mind. I think their strategy is to hold onto him and promote a narrative within the media where it is possible Dwight stays. I say they hold onto Howard, get eliminated in the first round again, and he walks. To where? I don’t know. Could be New Jersey, could be Dallas. He dislikes the direction of the franchise in Orlando and the front office implementing the plans. In the end that’s why he is going to leave.
That's the whole point
With Deron and Dwight in Brooklyn with a ton of cap space and limited long-term commitments, they can put a title contender on the floor where as the Magic would still be cap crippled.
by ZR on Jan 8, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
That may be true but it's an absurd notion
There’s no chance the Nets do that. NO chance.
by ZR on Jan 8, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
What do the Magic have to offer us for Deron Williams?
What cap space do the Magic have available next season? What is the market in Orlando for endorsements?
This is just hype news and spin by the Magic front office. The Magic are up shit’s creek. MarShon Brooks is already better right now than Jason Richardson. Jason Richardson is 30 with 4 years left on his contract. Turkgolu is past 30. Jameer Nelson is 30. Ryan Anderson is nice (thank Rod Thorn), but the Magic are not capable of signing Howard. They don’t have pieces to trade for Deron Williams. Nobody wants their scraps and awful contracts.
What about the job Otis Smith has done, makes you think that this is a real story, and not just some small market fanboy hype?
rumors are rumors.. most aren't credible
but at the same time, we have no idea what Howard is thinking. Killa, who has disappeared, used to point out that Dwight is fickle.. which he is. So maybe he did change his tune. Maybe the Nets stinking is God’s message to him, or something like that…
exactly
i find it hilarious how we’re supposed to believe that Howard is just totally oblivious to how BAD this team is, and how MISERABLE Deron looks out there on the court.
Watching this team humiliate themselves on a nightly basis would make me reconsider my trade demands as well.
or at the very least, be open to a trade out to SoCal to play for a franchise that has their moiso together.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
because the current roster has nothing to do with what we would look like with Dwight on it
is it so hard to understand? Deron sees the big picture, and so do I.
big picture is 17-65
first season in Brooklyn with Mo Williams at the point
by orangeeater on Jan 8, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah
he looked like he saw the bigger picture yesterday when he looked like he wanted to commit Seppuku right on the goddamn court
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
Deron told the Nets to keep their flexibility for the 2012 summer
How hard is that to understand?
DERON himself prepared this bed. He has to suck it up now, that’s why he’s talking about being patient.
right but he has a parachute out if he wants.. we don't
by orangeeater on Jan 8, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i know deron has the escape clause
and he made it clear that he values winning over money so we shouldnt be shocked if he left 30 million on the table to go sign with a contending team that has the cap space for him
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 8, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
It is very easy for Deron
to tell the Nets to go ahead, do this, do that, I’m on board yatta yatta because he CAN LEAVE and not look back!
do you know how easy it is to do what he’s doing right now? He has an OUT! He’s not married to us! He’s not locked in with us! He can say whatever and if it doesn’t work, I’m gone! This is what frustrates me the most Andres, is that he’s saying all of this while not being tied to any of it. He could have just as easily told the Nets to sign Nene and Butler and then hauled ass right after. You guys trust him way too much
This is why you guys need to be very careful in believing the words out of someone who looked like he was ready to throw a temper tantrum last night
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
he did not look patient last night
his words after the game did not scream PATIENCE.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
hey he’s the one who holds the threat of “i will leave if you do not…” over our heads
he is toying with us
either way, he will get what he wants.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
You're a terrible fan...
Seriously go root for the Knicks. You are 100% negative, all the time. Look we have a strategy. It may work, it may not. But you don’t change strategies mid way through the process.
We have a shot at two elite players at the two most important positions on the floor. Even if we don’t get them, we still have cap-space, flexibility, and two first round draft picks this year.
Just chill out! Deron hasn’t left, or asked to leave. He has only said he’s 90% coming back. Maybe he changes his mind, maybe he doesn’t. But fake ass fans like you, aren’t helping.
Nobody likes losing. We’re trying to change our fortunes into not just contenders, but champions. We’re trying to take over New York, and be the NY basketball team. Do you see how big this picture is? Do you really think Favors is the guy that was going to do this?
This was a gamble worth taking. If you’re not on board, go root for the Knicks. Stop being negative at every turn. It’s poison.
You the same DocJ from NAS ?
I always loved your stuff…Don’t worry about MR.$$$….He’s O.K.
And don’t get yourself banned…It’s not worth it…for me.
I don't know who WKMG is...
But who do they propose the Magic would send our way in a trade for D-Will?
I don’t think I’m exaggerating in saying that if I was Billy King, I wouldn’t accept their whole roster (outside of Dwight) combined in exchange for D-Will.
Pa. Lease.
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
I love how everything that says Howard is coming here is true
and anything that says he’s not is automatically false.
This fanbase is so far removed from objectivity its frightening. I hope you guys will be okay when Howard doesn’t come to this bum ass team.
how dare you inject realism here??
Howard will come. Dwight will start smiling. We will be champs.We have Proky, who is the best owner ever.
and a billion dollar new arena
Don’t forget that
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Jan 8, 2012 9:42 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
In no way am I under any false illusions about Dwight
I’d say it’s highly unlikely he’s coming to the Nets, but trading D-Will to Orlando? Seriously??
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
We’d trade him first.
No way BK lets him go for nothing after everything he did to get him to Jersey in the first place.
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
That is...
Trade him before they had a chance to sign him in free agency.
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
I wouldn't worry to much about this
Orl has nothing to offer and no leverage.
However, I wouldn’t discredit them trying to do it or Dwight changing his mind. It’s not whether its true or not, its whether it can happen, which I believe won’t happen on a Nets stand point.
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 8, 2012 9:39 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
and if woj and stein utter the same thing
you’ll call bollocks on that as well?
Because that’s the prevailing mentality around here: believe anything positive, deny anything negative.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
He'll believe it when someone credible has said it
Your “point” is not related.
by thermodynamic on Jan 8, 2012 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No, the prevailing mentality is...
Believe anything that makes sense, and deny anything that doesn’t.
\We’re not trading D-Will. We’re all in. He’s either going to re-up with us or he isn’t. The Magic, may trade Dwight, but D-Will isn’t going to Orlando. They don’t have cap space. They don’t have trade assets. This is why Dwight wants out. If they can pull off a Gasol for Kwame Brown trade, good for them. But short of that….they’re done.
The reports about Dwight coming here, are from him and his agent. The reports about him staying are from sources with knowledge of Dwights thinking. What’s more credible. His agent getting 15% of his contract, and the new one Adidas is getting ready to drop when he goes to a big market? Or his HS Gym teacher?
Come on man. Who’s not being realistic?
How about we all agree
that none of us know what Dwight wants.
NetsDaily.com
by NetsDaily on Jan 8, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
None of us know including Dwight...
He doesn’t know what he wants…
you should distinguish among sources
Pingalore might be right, but 1) his track record as Andres B notes is not very good and 2) other, more credible sources, are saying the exact opposite.
And Nets officials are VERY confident. I have no idea of the details that led them to that conclusion (and I’m skeptical that this will work out) but even this morning, i am hearing the same thing I’ve heard for weeks.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Good
as they should be.
Nets are really setting themselves up for something great, for the first time in years they have a lot of things going for them. Their on the court performance isn’t really that important at this point.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 8, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
They are setting themselves up for something great, like you said
OR a MONUMENTAL failure
FIRE AVERY!!
Good stuff
Like I’ve said for awhile now, just waiting until March.
by ZR on Jan 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
This just isn't logical...
Look, the reports that Dwight is coming here, are not all true. But, to say we’re top 3 is absolutely true. Dwight said he requested to be traded here. He said that! He has yet to deny that he wants to move this team to Brooklyn! Deron said he is re-signing 90%! He has yet to deny that, or flip on that.
Why get in a tizzy over anything else. There are a lot of report from people with knowledge of so-so tendencies, or a source with knowledge of so and so’s thinking….It’s all BS! The two reports that are factual to me, are what Deron said directly, and what Dwight and his agent have said directly. Everything else is rubbish.
This report is totally ridiculous. The Magic DO NOT HAVE CAP SPACE FOR D-WILL in Free Agency. Period. They are bloated with awful contracts. The Magic DO NOT HAVE TRADE ASSETS that the Nets would find desirable in exchange for D-Will. Why would we take anything on their roster, when we could put Bynum or Gasol next to Lopez, and add some draft picks? Do you not think the Lakers, would consider such a trade? What about Golden State? What about Inidianapolis?
This report is garbage not because it’s anti-Nets. It’s garbage because on no level does it have anything in it that anyone could look at and think, I see how this could play out and actually happen.
I hear he is selling the Brooklyn Bridge.
There is a sale for the month of January.
"Wanna buy a 2001 Ford Windstar for $100,000? Yeah 'cos I'm that good"
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DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson
Nets officials remain quietly confident that they will wind up with Carmelo Anthony, either in a trade or free agency and, despite the ugliness of this season, will be able to turn the Nets into a superteam by the time they arrive in Brooklyn a year and a half from now.
yeah, sounds familiar. This time, there will be no Utah Jazz waiting in the wingS to bail us out
and Utah knew exactly what they were doing when they traded sourpuss Deron to this abysmal team.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 9:22 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Melodrama was a little different
Nets are in the position the Knicks were for Melo – choice #1. Lakers, Mavs anyone else is in the position the Nets were for Melo – next best options.
Deron is already in place, which is a big difference.
by ZR on Jan 8, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Utahs smart
They traded deron at the right time. Now thy can avoid all this drama
by i says on Jan 8, 2012 6:09 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
well when we're forced to do so
I doubt he ends up in Orlando, unless another team steps in to offer us something
pfft….the house is on fire, but everyone wants to pretend that they don’t smell smoke!!
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
We won't trade Deron
You are right Orlando has nothing good to offer. Would anyone want him on a rental? Maybe.. but nobody will pay a lot for him
So even if in a few months, he starts to indicate he wants to leave, we will keep him and hope for the best, like Dwight and Orlando
The Nets have the luxury of cap space this summer, so they can afford to wait regardless if Dwight gets traded at the deadline or not
But if Dwight gets traded at the deadline and signs an extension… you really have to be prepared
The 2012 free agent class is not as strong as some people say, all of the strength is in RFAs, who are all going back to their teams either with 1 year qualifying offers or long term
the 2012 class is garbage
outside of Howard and Deron.
If the Nets lose both, this franchise is a corpse floating in water
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
hahaahh
yeah, we’ll hope for the best. I remember not even a month ago we were clowning Orlando for being ‘delusional’ for holding onto Howard
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
I will come out and say.. I would take 3 million less to play for a better organization
if I thought I would be happier in the end.
Deron isn’t happy. Will he really just take money when he is miserable? No Dwight.. no Deron..
how do you know he isn't happy?
do you talk to him frequently?
by jbo117 on Jan 8, 2012 10:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Are you uable to read facial expressions? You do see Deron's demeaner during and post game, right?
DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson
That's because he doesn't like to lose
Doesn’t mean he isn’t happy with the organization, the area and the future. Two totally different stories.
by ZR on Jan 8, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
What you would do means nothing
I would play for the Nets for free
I'm all in. Go Nets!
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 8, 2012 2:38 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
it feels like it's been dragging
Maybe that’s just me.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Jan 8, 2012 9:45 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
how is it a nightmare?
the season has just started less than a month ago. People are acting as if the Nets are serious about contending for a playoff spot or something, it’s all about Dwight Howard now. Nets could seriously lose every game from this point on, it doesn’t matter. It’s all about D12.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 8, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
lets see how Deron’s attitude and behavior hold up if we lose every game from here on out
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
he'd have to accept it
but he has to realize it doesn’t really mean anything anyway.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 8, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
his face
didn’t look like he is accepting it very well
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not disagreeing
he has to step up as a player no doubt.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 8, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
D Will for
Ryan Anderson. Get it done.
by Clayton Balch on Jan 8, 2012 9:26 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Orlando should show to the public that they use the best efforts for Howard's preservation. As a result they will tell it wanted to play with Deron, and we couldn't get Deron.
I don't speak English
And Nets have no chocie other than project confidence that Deron is committed.
DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson
lol Ping
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
If Houston continues playing poorly
Perhaps we can trade DWill there (hey, it’s not Dallas but it’s still Texas and they’ve got a good GM and Kevin Martin) in exchange for Kyle Lowry and reworking of the Houston pick protections making it ours without any protections
I would do that in a heat beat…
Kyle Lowry and 2 lottery picks….with Brook and MarShon. I’m fine with that.
"Beware the Ides of March."
When it was "Melo" or bust
I was upset because I wanted to draft our superstar so I wouldn’t be upset with that
NETS are fantasy leage team, for Proky!!!
He will not trade D-Will. He will let him walk if he wants to.
Which means, ORL has no space for him, and NO Dwill is not leaving 27mill guaranteed.
DWill knows that, DFegan knows that. Proky took a risk, and he could care less if he walks or not. He aint trading him.
I love Proky
He’s willing to do what it takes to win. All you can ask for from an owner. Even though he’s not involved on a day-to-day basis, he’s willing and able to write the checks.
by ZR on Jan 8, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Kawhi Leonard and Tony Parker for Dwill would be a cool shakeup
Kawhi has got real Gerald Wallace potential. He’s the best rebounding small forward right now (small sample size of course). And again, a Texas team with some proven stars, a proven coach, and a proven front office. Tony Parker is a pro, and he knows Avery, and Avery knows him.
ORL has 61.6 million in cap space for next season.
Billy King isn’t stupid.
He won’t listen to any trade talks from ORL
This isn’t a story.
What is the twitter name of this gullible jerk?
As bad as this team looks
I think we are forgetting that this seasons W/L record will have virtually no bearing on where Dwight and Dwill land. This team sucks right now and everyone knows that.
But NBA players today can see the bigger picture. Miami stunk up the joint for a few bad years. This didn’t deter Lebron and Bosh from going to Miami with Wade.
If Orlando had some flexibility and/or cap space and talented youth, I’d say yea this rumor could make sense. And yes, they may be TRYING to get get Deron, but there is zero chance they can land him via trade and zero cap room for him to sign in the off-season.
Not saying Dwight will be a net, but I think we can all reasonably conclude deron Williams will not be wearing an Orlando magic uni.
by orecchio14 on Jan 8, 2012 9:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions
But NBA players today can see the bigger picture. Miami stunk up the joint for a few bad years. This didn’t deter Lebron and Bosh from going to Miami with Wade.
Miami won a championship like six years ago.
And also, it’s Miami. Great weather. Beaches. Women. Partying year round. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t that hard
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
stunk up the joint?
2005 – win title
2006 – 44 wins, 4 seed, swept in first round
2007 – 17 wins, worst record, 2nd pick
2008 – 43 wins, 4th seed, lost first round in 7 games, Wade was PPG leader
2009 – 47 wins, 4th seed, lost in first round to Celtics in 5 despite Wade averaging 33 6 and 7
I wish the Nets could “stink” like that. The Heat were obviously tanking after the end of the 2007 season but they still showed they were capable of getting out of the murkiest waters with relative ease.
With the nets, you cant even tell since 2005 when this team is actually trying to assemble a contending team and had Toronto not been so desperate to rid themselves of VC the Nets would be the Hornets of the North
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 8, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Just to be safe, we probably should root for ORL to lose more games, but I wouldn't want them to lose to the Knicks.
There is a theory that if ORL is competing for 1st place in East, then ORL might not trade him and DH comes as a FA.
Maybe we shouldn’t take that risk.
im actually hoping they do well during the first half of the season then completely collapse after the trade deadline has passed…or at least lose to all the contenders
IMO nothing that takes place during the season will matter because it the playoffs that will decide what D12 will do with his future
another 1st round exit for the Magic and D12 walks
by mikeyexcel201 on Jan 8, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
every time we lose and ORL wins something like this is going to surface
remember the media HATES nj so as long as the team is here the “experts” are going to continue with the idea that no-one every wants to be here
D-Will can say he will 100% re-sign with us and there will STILL be some media guy or un-named source who will say they heard otherwise
the media does not hate NJ
The Nets have been utterly inept and laughably abysmal for most of their 35 years in this state.
What do you guys expect?
The Clippers were being dumped on for ages and now they’re suddenly receiving positive press
if the Nets stop losing, and running around like desperate fools, they will garner more respect. Until then, the media has a right to “hate” us.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
truth be told mdb i agree with what you say
however, noone would make as much fun in the media when a player was rumored to go to LAC, when a rumor came up that someone would be heading towards NJ it was always moisoed on
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 8, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Outside of the Kidd years
this franchise has done nothing to garner national respect. Not one damn thing.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
but would u agree that even in the kidd years, espn and national media outlets still would never give the nets any credit…..it was always “the nets, best in the east, but if they played in the west theyd be a 5 seed”
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 8, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
true
but that’s what happens when you wallow in garbage for years.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
the knicks wallowed in garbage for almost 10 years straight....they got Chandler and became title contenders over-night in the media....am i wrong ???
by mikeyexcel201 on Jan 8, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
you are right.....but unforutunately they dont carry the stigma
it was always ok for them to be “tanking” cause they were just gonna sign guys……when we did the same we ended up with outlaw/morrow/farmar/petro
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 8, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
This is just Carmelo all over again
except this time, there will be no Utah trade to bail us out at the end of the tunnel, and the stakes are that much higher, cause the guy we gave up so much to get, may walk!!!!
I have 0 confidence that dwight will come here……the losing, our grumpy point guard and other factors are not going to help entice anyone to come here….especially a center on a 1st place team with title aspirations. As far as im concerned things couldnt look any more bleak heading into brooklyn. The Nets organization may very well, lose out in the howard sweepstakes, lose dwill, have the worst record and not the best draftpick AGAIN, alienated their entire NJ fanbase by not caring and not at least attempting to put a competitive product ont he floor, and not entice any new or on the fence fans to root for them when they make their move….people will fill up the arena regardless in year one, shearly for the new digs and because all new arenas sell out in year 1, but beyond that it wont continue!
I honestly didnt even feel this broken up about this team even in the 12-70 year….
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 8, 2012 9:51 AM EST reply actions
You're right this is Carmelo all over again
except for the fact that the Nets to Howard is the Knicks to Melo. He WANTS to be a New Jersey/Brooklyn Net. Do you not believe that he realizes the Nets are comprised of expiring role players, and are inevitably going to play awfully without starter quality talent? Do you also believe that despite what he says to reporters, he isn’t talking to Dwight about what is going on?
The Nets have this plan mapped out. They realize what has to be done, and they have shown they are willing to do it. Evidently D-Will is going to be grumpy, he has to play the role he has never played in his career. He’s not used to being the top scorer on most nights for his team.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 8, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
i believe everything
however there is a human nature element attached to this whole thing…..and humans by nature live by the perception=reality staple…..the perception is that losing is a stigma attached to the word nets….whether its the brooklyn nets or the nj nets, losing is attached to them…..all the press about the nets is negative press, and as a human being dwight howard notices these things. I sincerely hope that i am wrong as i would love to for once walk into my teams home arena and feel like wow, im going to see a great product tonight, however i dont feel confident……ive seen this type of situation unfold too many times in the last few years.
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 8, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
type of situation unfold too many times in the last few years.
I see your point very clearly, but this situation is unlike the past couple years. Because for the first time in distant memory
-The Nets have a star player that other players would love to play with
-Barclays is actually being constructed and although I haven’t personally seen it, it is apparently a beauty.
-Nets have an owner that understands the game, doesn’t know where his yacht is, rides in G5’s, jet skis, has billions, and bids for a temple.
And a small side note, the man wants to come here. He wants to be a Net.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 8, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
The Knicks were not the worst team in the league last year
prior to trading for Melo.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
what?
we are the worst team in basketball, period. There is no arguing this.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
ah good point
the washington team that we barely beat
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
and the Washington team that NY barely beat
after losing to Charlotte and another lousy team at home
knicks were good and on pace for the playoffs prior to acquiring Melo
how about that
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 8, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Can somebody please explain to me...
…how what a Nets team FULL of place holders, cap fillers and injured players does?
they had Amare
who played better carrying the Knicks by himself than Deron is right now
and he didn’t sulk, piss, and moan either
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
The Knicks had a better team overall as a whole though
they were a sure playoff team
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 8, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
yes
but one thing the Nets are missing is Brook. Had Lopez not gotten hurt, this team would have at least one more win, maybe 2 more. Nets sucking is a product of bad luck with injuries, schedule, lack of practice and “bigger picture” strategy. And yes, DWill has a sour face, but who looks thrilled when losing? c’Mon, he knows he signed up for it, he may not enjoy it, but its what he wanted.
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 8, 2012 11:22 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Don't see how that really factors into the equation
but alrite. From what I understand, he wanted to go there because of STAT and the Knicks were his childhood team, so even if they were sucking I don’t think that would change his mind.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 8, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Dwight (Melo) wants to go to the Nets (Knicks)
because he wants to team up with another star, Deron (Stoudemire), and the Nets will be moving to NY, have Prokhorov, will have a boatload of cash. Dwight not be from the area, but it is known he wants a big market and wants to be in the spotlight, which he would get by making the move to Brooklyn.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 8, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
He moved from New York at age 8
hard to see that connection being so strong. He wanted the big market.
And it is factual that the Nuggets are a better team after the trade than the Knicks. Both last year and this year, the Nuggets have a better record than the Knicks.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
how I honestly feel
I want Dwight as bad as any of us but if this guy really does all of a sudden want to stay in Orlando, he should just change his name to Dwight Coward.
Williams is our building block but D Will is a D Bag. His attitude makes it difficult to like him even when he himself is a major cause for our offensive woes.
Worst case we don’t get Coward or keep D Bag and we mourn. But in the end we will at least have Lopez, Brooks and a lottery pick to build around and I am ok with that as a worse case scenario.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Jan 8, 2012 9:52 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
lol...what did Howard do that makes him a coward though ???
by mikeyexcel201 on Jan 8, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
his fear of being disliked by Orlando
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Jan 8, 2012 10:04 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
if he had a fear of being disliked
he wouldnt have made a PUBLIC request for a trade.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Dwight really really wants to play with DWill
Tthey’re just reporting or ‘rumoring’ that Orlando is trying to get DWill because that’s the guy Howard wants to play with. Dwight says he wants to play with Deron, who’s a Net and they can’t get via trade with what they have, and Orlando just keeps re-interpreting that that they’re trying to trade for Deron.
Hopeless pessimists can just stay miserable. The broken record routine is becoming amusing actually.
Deron would have to tell Billy King to his face, at lunch, that he wants a trade.
I doubt that will ever happen because Deron has been Asst. GM of the Nets and this is HIS team team.
He has to take responsibility for the good and the bad of this team.
responsibility???
What responsibility does someone have when they can leave next year? None of D-Will’s “GM’ing” is non binding. None of it!
This is like me knocking up a girl and then having some kind of out clause where I can leave her ass barefoot and pregnant at a moment’s notice, and she can’t hit me up for child support
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Or, you could promise her you'd marry her if she'd get an abortion, then dump her stuff curbside while she's @ the clinic.
DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson
by 3ptChucker on Jan 8, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And just the fact that DWill eats lunch with Billy King every day should tell Nets fans that he isn't conspiring behind BK's back.
Why are any Nets fans taking this seriously.
Deron will be with the Nets in Brooklyn. 27 million reasons why.
It's really come to a point where I don't even care that much about DWill the player
the way he’s playing it won’t make a difference whether we have him or not if we don’t get Dwight or impact players. Losing this DWill won’t make me drop any tears.
BUT losing him would absolutely kill this franchise from our image standpoint. If he leaves, forget about it, no one will want to come here.
As long as we keep MarShon
I really dont care what happens after that. We can build around him and whoever else we get. F’ them all.
by Mr. Cash on Jan 8, 2012 9:56 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
A high lottery pick will help us
Dwight and Deron both would live to see a super young 3 to go with Lopez at the 4. Be patient. There is nothing we can do until the summer, other than hope for Lopez to recover fully….
by samnetsfan2010 on Jan 8, 2012 9:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I dont think we will have lopez even if Dwight comes in FA
We would either trade him for a SF or a PF and use our pick to get the other.
Honestly, I would like to trade him for a SF and hope to get Davis.
by rotoreuter48 on Jan 8, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
The best scenario still is that Howard stays with Orlando for the season
That means he doesn’t get traded to LA at the deadline and we still get a shot at him in the offseason.
Leave Orlando with their delusion that Howard isn’t bolting. That would be good — no, great! — for us in the offseason as we can go for him and also keep all our assets.
by stenpoint on Jan 8, 2012 10:01 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Lets wait and see if Ric Bucher responds to this nonsense.
I will post something if he responds to my remarks, as he often does.
Why is everybody so upset ?
We know the plan and so far nothing has really changed it.
If Deron really wants out, he will let Billy King know, and then we will know.
Otherwise it’s business as usual. Try to win some games, develop some team chemistry and hold the fort until Brook Lopez comes back…
by M I K E on Jan 8, 2012 10:03 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
the voice of reason
well said, sir!
Let’s play some basketball and stop stressing about crap we can’t control.
by kiemurphy on Jan 8, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
MDB
Of course this story is false, how the heck can the magic retain Howard with a new contract and sign Dwill?
They have hardly no cap and I believe it can’t happen. If people think Dwight wants to stay, you need to check your brain out, why does he want to stay because his team is going to beat on the bad teams and lose to good teams. This guy isn’t dumb he knows what type of situation he’s in, the magic dont have a team to beat the bulls, heat, Knicks. The guy wants a ring not a eastern conference finals appearance, and to Get to the finals he needs to get thru those teams which he wont.
At the end of the day, a lot of BS rumors and source are going to say this and that for the next 2 months until march 15 but when march 15 comes and Howard is in another jersey, what will people who reported this story say?
by Nets4Life(8) on Jan 8, 2012 10:05 AM EST reply actions
oh
I know its bs, just pointing out how ‘anti Nets’ stories are automatically looked at as false.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
This is good news if there is some credibility to it.
Seems like dwight and deron are still talking to each other and want to play with each other. Again, our record this season does not matter due to expiring contracts and or pieces being involved in the trade.
Funny
what a depleted Nets team does matter, nevermind the fact that half those guys aren’t even under contract once Deron (and Dwight) have to decide whether to sign with us or not. Nevermind the fact that several of the few good players we have have missed games due to injuries.
Yet Dallas, a team supposed to be good, losing games and getting embarrassed does no matter when attracting free agents.
Just find it funny.
perception is everything
dallas are the defending champs
we are the defending chumps
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
I don't consider Dallas a threat. They are the defending champions and noone is even talking about
it.
Those are the teams that should be feared
The ones lying in the weeds, much like the Phillies with Lee and the Angels with Pujols, or us with the trade for DWill…sometimes it’s better to be stealth…
Winning is everything...Losing is not an option...
Section 4, Row 12...last season at The Rock...
IF Deron will be traded
And that’s a big IF, it would NEVER be to Orlando. In the words of Jackie Chiles from Seinfeld, that would be “the most public of our many humiliations.” No way BK makes us the laughing stock of the league by allowing DWill and Dwight to end up together…IN ORLANDO.
by TheOnlyNetsFaninMD on Jan 8, 2012 10:19 AM EST reply actions
In the words and voice of the crazy chick from that one episode of Two and a half Men
NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER
so far a rookie kid
has outplayed him and has been 100x more efficient.
He needs to check himself.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 8, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
AllStar? Top 3 PG?
JKidd was aggressive early, didn’t take jumpers, drove to the basket, and played great D. I almost want to trade him just to get a more positive outlook for this team. This team feels the pressure of DWill leaving and his body language makes it worst. I like the guy but there comes a time where an Allstar has to shut up, step up, and LEAD
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 8, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
we wouldnt be hearing this isht if Brook was playing
AK would have signed for 1 year and Nets would have abetter record.
This team is built around Brook’s scoring and he’s not playing so the team is gonna be terrible. If Dwight went out Orlando would be just as bad.
it's bad
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Yeah
Its tough to imagine a team who has as much trouble catching passes and not fumbling the ball once they get it. I cring when most even try to put it on the floor. I almost don’t even blame deron for his body language. It’s laughable.
The turnovers and lack of ability to make jumpers is that of a division 3 community college at times
my community college went undefeated a couple of times and won championnships
We had a few And 1 guys that would make most of the Nets look like the Generals
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 8, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Can't understand how only Andres
Gets that this season was predetermined as Dwight or bust and signed off by Deron.
What this team does is irrelevant to the situation. You have to assume DWill wasn’t on board with this and that Dwight isn’t as smart as you all and can’t figure out the Nets gave up wins for cap space. Yeah, only you figured that out.
We suck, no one wants us, waaaaaa. Waaaaaaaaaa….oh that’s right, Nene sat around waiting for us…..but no one wants us……wwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Wwwwwwwwwaaaa
If the Magic are trying to trade for D-Will the Nets must jump on their offer.
If the Magic are trying to trade for D-Will the Nets must jump on their offer.
No team will be able to match the tremendous package the Magic will offer for Deron. I mean think about it how many other teams are going to offer up numerous “young” “prospects” with IMMENSE upside such as Glen FAT BABY Davis or DeAndre Liggins?
Billy you’ve got to do the right thing and trade with the Magic. There is no other alternative.
by NetsForce on Jan 8, 2012 10:27 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe we should also throw in Brooks with Deron...
We want to be fair with our friends from Orlando…
Why not?
You don’t pass on acquiring elite talents like FAT BABY and Liggins.
Maybe we can even get Ryan Anderson back too..
if we trade them Brook Lopez and our #1 pick this year.
I’m pumped !
IMO, it is in the NETS best interest to lose as many games a possible this season
The challenge is for the team to selling tickets while losing.
What this teams really needs is to get rid of Petro. The dude is terrible; words can’t even describe it.
Glad the coach staff is beginning to realize.
"Beware the Ides of March."
If he played for free
It would still be too high of a salary
Has MarShon Brooks been reading this thread ? (LOL)
Marshon S. Brooks@Marshon2Reply
Yawwwnnnn…
by M I K E on Jan 8, 2012 10:44 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Deron is playing like crap
No way we trade him unless he makes it VERY clear he won’t resign. I still believe we get Dwight. What I don’t understand is…….. We knew we were going to be losing games before the season started BUT now that we actually start losing the games it means we won’t get Dwight O_O. Anyway I don’t think Deron leaves after this summer, but of he does (he won’t) and we end up with a top 3 draft pick we are still in nice shape with nice young pieces.
Exactly...
Nets are not going to quit the NBA if Deron and Dwight are not on this team next season..
The NBA might throw them out of the league (LOL)…but the Nets will still be playing in Brooklyn when all the players you see out there right now are old men…
Do not buy this for a number of reasons
1) Same guy who reported Dwight would extend (that was obviously very wrong)
2) The story is very short and to the point, with little details
3) Does not quote if the source is a league source or someone friendly with Dwight
4) This is exactly what Magic fans wanted to hear, someone would give it to them sooner or later
5) As of now, the trade request still stands
Dwight Howard has requested a trade to the Nets. No one has requested a trade to the Magic.
The appeal of Brooklyn is greater than that of Orlando.
I think it's fine.
And I forgot
Pingalore is the only one saying this. Other reporters have said the opposite. That loss to the Bulls must have not been very fun.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 8, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
That guy Pingalore...
is a local TV sports reporter down in Orlando…who I believe is very cozy with Orlando management.
Read this and tell me who you think Pingalore’s sources are…
ORLANDO, Fla. – Dec. 14, 2011
Local 6 Sports Director David Pingalore has learned through two sources that Dwight Howard’s California-based agent, Dan Fegan, was at Amway Center Tuesday trying to get his client out of Orlando immediately.
The two sources do confirm that Howard wants out of Orlando — and staying is not an option. Sources do confirm his agent continues to make that point each time he talks with Magic General Manager Otis Smith.
Pingalore also learned that Howard’s flip-flopping of possibly staying with the Magic is a ploy to steer the criticism off of the All-Star center. The sources say Howard is growing tired of not yet being traded.
Pingalore’s sources used the term that Fegan is “strong-arming” the Magic to make a trade, with Howard’s first choice being the New Jersey Nets.
On Wednesday, a trade rumor on ESPN.com was nothing but a decoy stirred up by Howard’s agent, according to Pingalore’s sources. They confirm the so-called multi-team trade that would send Howard to New Jersey, and also involving Portland’s Gerald Wallace coming to Orlando, was made up by Fegan.
The sources believe that Fegan is trying to create a buzz for his client, Howard, in order to pressure a trade.
A report tonight on Yahoo! and ESPN.com said the Magic told teams they will not field anymore calls about trading Howard.
However, Otis Smith said after practice,“We’re going to continue to talk to every team out there and that doesn’t mean anything is going to happen.” Pingalore’s sources say the Magic are not happy with Howard’s agent and that the Magic put out the leak about no more calls from teams. The sources described the Magic as digging “their heels in.”
The sources also confirm that Smith has at least 15 trade requests he is dealing with from NBA teams.
Howard did not speak to the media Tuesday, sources say, because of the direction he was under from Fegan not to do so.
On Wednesday Howard spoke to the media, but did not want to talk about the drama surrounding the team.
The Lakers continue to be an option for Howard, however Pingalore’s sources confirm that the Lakers’ center, Andrew Bynum, may not be as attractive, because the Magic have learned Bynum’s knees are not healthy.
Makes sense that Dwight would recruit him.
But they have nothing to offer for DWill in a trade, not sure if they will have cap space to sign him as a FA either.
by NetsROC on Jan 8, 2012 10:53 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
If Orlando fans don't like Lopez for Howard
Then they should know their roster has nobody even close to being valued as an asset for dwill.
the thing that confuses me is we lost to the HEAT and people here begin to act like the sky is falling
ITS THE HEAT…WE WERE SUPPOSE TO LOSE….LOL
its not like we lose to the Raptors then that would be a completely different story
relax its only 9 games into the season…we can and likely will improve
This is OT
but Arenas is a FA. Not that he’s a superstar or anything, but he could probably help put up some points off the bench, and I’m pretty sure he’s friends with D12.
We'll Be Fine.
i think they are waiting till mid season while they try to raise Farmers trade value to make space for Hibachi
by mikeyexcel201 on Jan 8, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Arenas would probably wait until Dwight’s destination is finalized.
by OTRWaldo on Jan 8, 2012 11:02 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
If I'm King and get trade request from Otis I'd tell him
“No problem, he’s yours. Get us 8 first round picks, Josh Smith form Atlanta and Ricky Rubio from Minnesota. Call me when done.”
An eye for an eye!
I am rooting for Orlando to win a lot of regular season games so that they keep Dwight past the trade deadline, and then I will root for them to lose in the first round. I am also rooting for the Lakers to win a lot of regular season games so they keep their roster as is.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
My bad. I didn't even bother to read the comments
The Dwight thing is boring now. But props to you :)
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
They both suck beyond imagination.
When Point Guard can’t pass for life and his jupm shot sucking – what use of him?
by Belarus4life on Jan 8, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Farmar can fill up the assist column if needed
The problem with assist on this team is our bigs cannot catch worth a damn and no one can hit a open shot
truth
deron is consistently robbed of at least 3-5 assists a game.
doesn’t help that he can’t hit a shot either.
wolves never rest
by pope of lofe on Jan 8, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Everyone relax. IMO this I the natural progression of a huge decision that gets dragged out for months
Hard to go three months gung ho about leaving your home and keeping up with the trade demand request. In the middle of all that with orl staff whispering in his ear every day he is bound to second guess at some point and talk to deron about it (what all this speculation isbprobably based on) and yet as we get closer to the trade deadline Dwight will remember all the reasons he hate orl and will be ready to move again. Importantthing to take away from this is it seams like its a fact he desperately wants to play with deron
by acg5001 on Jan 8, 2012 11:01 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Reading that SI article on Jerry Sloan's possible return to the NBA
I think the Knicks should go after him. I think he’s tough enough to handle the media, and that team needs structure. They also have an excellent front line that I think Sloan’s old school style could maximize.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/01/07/jerry.sloan/index.html
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
this is a nets board bro
#MarSwag9
buck fitches.
by "NetsNation" on Jan 8, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Imagine if we fire Avery
to reunite Jerry Sloan and DWill O.o
FIRE AVERY!!
Still feel that Phil Jackson will come back to coach the Knicks next season.
I also think it’s a lock that they add Steve Nash as well.
Gonna be a fun team to watch in 2012 (and in 2011).
I'm sure Deron is on board with the Dwight or bust strategy
But has he said what happens if bust should happen?
The worst case scenario is always looming out there
But no one wants to find out what happens if the team reaches that point, even d.will
Something that would be amazing and won't happen cause we never have luck with ping pongs
We miss out on Dwight get the 1 pick. Nab A. Davis and Deron Re-Signs I love home grown stars
Plan B!
but me likes it! I like home grown as well. Can’t think of when it’s ever really worked out for the Nets, BUT Billy K is a good drafter.
Plan C is miss Howard, trade Deron and get some good stuff back.
Plan D – miss Howard, let Deron walk & basically start from scratch.
youd have to think plan D is unacceptable heading into a new billion dollar arena....proky would have their heads
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 8, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think plan D is even an option
Why would they let deron walk? He’ll barely haves played 82 games for this team
Way off topic here but anyone think jordanwilliams should get more run?
he hasnt exactly been perfect, and fumbled a nice marshon pass last night, but the guy clearly knows how to rebound and play D, and has much better hands then petro or sheldon…..just saying, he could develop into a decent bench player
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 8, 2012 11:07 AM EST reply actions
Lol Pingalore
we should just post IncarceratedBob tweets if we’re going down this road.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 8, 2012 11:15 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
-_____-
_andresb Andres B
This hack-→ @pinglocal6 is hilarious.Magic writers are so delusional,they’re desperate bc they wont get any attention once Dwight leaves
I just wrote
Not sure how anyone can take what @pinglocal6 says seriously. Anyone remember “Dwight fires agent, DAD now representing him.” LOL #Hack
He's cherry picking the few times he's been right
to present examples of his credibility! Apparently the only Magic story he’s gotten right is the Rashard Lewis trade.
It’s pretty clear his “sources” are from inside the Magic organization, and they use him to put out whatever they want to be said in the media. Right now, they’re using him to try to increase Dwight’s trade value. He’s basically just a mouthpiece for Orlando Magic PR.
agreee 100% man, im shocked this was given any attention by Net Income
disappointing
by Henry Sanchez on Jan 8, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He's gotta feed his family.
Those stories must be major hit in Orlando….
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
Just think about it !!!
What do we have to lose. Are we getting any worse than this? NO!
That is why there is no way we trade D-Will. Proky took that risk, and DWill has more to lose if he walks than Proky. You better believe that.
I do not think DWill will leave 27 mill guaranteed, but let’s assume that he does that.
We will have plenty of capspace and a bunch of picks.
For those who say capspace means nothing, I say it means Gold in Brooklyn.
Just remember, Brooklyn is not Newark; it as thirsty for sports place as you can ever find.
Brook Lopez Changes Everything with our current Roster
Once Lopez returns our team will be a totally different animal. Most of the comments above that were negative basically talked about how bad the Nets are hence Williams not wanting to resign.
I’d like to see how many teams do without their stud centre for two months. Williams knows the score, he told King to keep the cap space, he was informed on every player aquired. He knows 75% of this roster won’t be here next season, so why exactly is there panic when a local homer magic writer posts a rumour?
I just don’t understand why people jump to massive conclusions without any evidence what so ever.
Like I said, once Lopez returns our team is instantly better with a post presence. Shooters like Morrow, S Williams, Stevenson and Brooks will get a lot more space on the floor with Lopez’s threat in the paint. It will also give Williams more breathing room and someone who can catch the ball under the basket.
Williams play will get better, assists will shoot up once Lopez returns. Everything is exactly the same as yesterday and the day before. We’re in a holding pattern for Howard, we kept our flexibility with the cap and are seeing it through until the 2012 free agency. Williams has told King to do this, so why are we losing the plot here?
We knew we’d be a bad team without Lopez. Williams knows were not good enough but it was his choice to get us to sign filler to tick us over.
Only Howard and Williams know what is happening.
On a side note Brooks is the reason I watch the Nets at the minute, love the kid.
Ill end on this note though, when Brook Lopez returns we will play to a playoff quality standard and shock quite a few teams with big wins. Lopez will beast it, so long as there is no further foot problems touch wood
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:19 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
It’s orthodox Xmas no downers I don’t mind if Howard joins the team. Speaking of trades this was send to me.
"Give us cash! I steal from the rich and give to the poor! I'm trying to be a myth; give us cash!" "No, I'm not gonna give you cash." "Go on, I steal from the rich. Are you rich?" "No, I'm … comfortable." "That's no good, I can't steal from the fairly well off and give to the moderately impoverished! That's not gonna swing, is it?"
Funny Spoof of Proky and Cuban
"Give us cash! I steal from the rich and give to the poor! I'm trying to be a myth; give us cash!" "No, I'm not gonna give you cash." "Go on, I steal from the rich. Are you rich?" "No, I'm … comfortable." "That's no good, I can't steal from the fairly well off and give to the moderately impoverished! That's not gonna swing, is it?"
Not much to offer
Other than D12, they have little talent in personnel under 30 (Nelson turns 30 in four weeks). Only Big Baby and Ryan Anderson have any value in persons under 30 and neither will light up the . Maybe Orton as a backup C. I don’t know how they pull off a trade that brings talent in.. They would have to ship Nelson, Anderson, and Idk what else to a third team for something of value. Slim pickings. Anyway, the agent(s) will determine what happens. GMs don’t hold a lot of cards when guys of this stature are involved.
No way deron goes to Orlando
BK would be stupid to accept ryan anderson, reddick, and jammer (most they could offer) for deron
Pingalore...
is a local TV sports reporter down in Orlando…who I believe is very cozy with Orlando management.
Read this and tell me who you think Pingalore’s sources are…
ORLANDO, Fla. – Dec. 14, 2011
Local 6 Sports Director David Pingalore has learned through two sources that Dwight Howard’s California-based agent, Dan Fegan, was at Amway Center Tuesday trying to get his client out of Orlando immediately.
The two sources do confirm that Howard wants out of Orlando — and staying is not an option. Sources do confirm his agent continues to make that point each time he talks with Magic General Manager Otis Smith.
Pingalore also learned that Howard’s flip-flopping of possibly staying with the Magic is a ploy to steer the criticism off of the All-Star center. The sources say Howard is growing tired of not yet being traded.
Pingalore’s sources used the term that Fegan is "strong-arming" the Magic to make a trade, with Howard’s first choice being the New Jersey Nets.
On Wednesday, a trade rumor on ESPN.com was nothing but a decoy stirred up by Howard’s agent, according to Pingalore’s sources. They confirm the so-called multi-team trade that would send Howard to New Jersey, and also involving Portland’s Gerald Wallace coming to Orlando, was made up by Fegan.
The sources believe that Fegan is trying to create a buzz for his client, Howard, in order to pressure a trade.
A report tonight on Yahoo! and ESPN.com said the Magic told teams they will not field anymore calls about trading Howard.
However, Otis Smith said after practice,"We’re going to continue to talk to every team out there and that doesn’t mean anything is going to happen." Pingalore’s sources say the Magic are not happy with Howard’s agent and that the Magic put out the leak about no more calls from teams. The sources described the Magic as digging "their heels in."
The sources also confirm that Smith has at least 15 trade requests he is dealing with from NBA teams.
Howard did not speak to the media Tuesday, sources say, because of the direction he was under from Fegan not to do so.
On Wednesday Howard spoke to the media, but did not want to talk about the drama surrounding the team.
The Lakers continue to be an option for Howard, however Pingalore’s sources confirm that the Lakers’ center, Andrew Bynum, may not be as attractive, because the Magic have learned Bynum’s knees are not healthy.
Trade D-Will before his brain explodes
Think OKC would give us Westbrook AND Ibaka? I’d do that and move on
Were they saying "Boo" or "Boo-urns?"
@SlayerSantana on Twitter
No.
Stick w/ the plan until it becomes clear the plan won’t work. Apparently the Nets are fairly confident it will, so you can’t give up just b/c the team isn’t playing well. Realistically, no one expected them to be very good even with Brook!
by CurlyBeast on Jan 8, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I cant believe Net Income gave this story any attention on this site
this is about as credible as John Irelands source on ESPN LA, but that was completely ignored
by Henry Sanchez on Jan 8, 2012 11:59 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
you have got to be kidding me
now i’m worried
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Based on mutual feeling among fans, media, and management in Orlando...
It’s becoming clearer by the day this Howard situation is going to drag on to off-season.
And I couldn’t be happier.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
yea, when dwill leaves and heads to orlando or dallas :(
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by Keysta101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Whatever happens from now until Brooklyn...
I’m glad we had Proky, Avery and BK to put us in a situation where we can be BEST, not a 4th seed regularly in the playoffs.
They are aiming high and even if they fail, they have forever changed the team perception from outsiders, we are players now as much as the Knicks and Lakers, not a joke.
I’m not going to be one of the guys asking for Avery and BK’s head if the plan falls apart, it was a big risk from the start but one I’m happy we took.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
i love the plan and i like the risk
i just hope it all works out
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go on...
and even if they fail, they have forever changed the team perception from outsiders, we are players now as much as the Knicks and Lakers, not a joke.
DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson
by 3ptChucker on Jan 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
They've said over and over again
that they will not allow for another Shaq-like situation. If Dwight holds firm with his trade request, they will move him.
no one really knows what is what
but put aside your pro-Nets tendencies and ask yourself: which seems more likely – that Howard would leave a community he seems to like, a decent team and a (state) tax-free paycheck to go to a new team that would be starting from scratch in a new city with only one good player or that DWILL would leave an organization he never wanted to join so that he could partner with the best Center in the world in a nice warm city with a solid fan base where he’d have some quality teammates and a (state) tax-free paycheck?
i (like all of us) have no idea what’s in DWILL or DH’s heart (or pocket book) but looking at the scenario, I see DWILL going to Orlando.
You ever live in Orlando ?
I have…Not a hot bed of excitement, if you are young, rich and alive.
Orlando’s is O.K. but player’s like Deron and Dwight need a bigger stage.
Toronto anyone ?
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 8, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
and how would Orlando pull that off with no money to sign Dwill
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 8, 2012 12:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Blah blah blah
next rumor please
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by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 8, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions
About DH12 "Reconsidering his trade request out of ORL"
That reporter is a hack. Has reported wrong information time and time again, don’t believe it.
Until I hear it from the horse’s mouth(Dwight), I don’t believe he has rescinded his request. Also, unless Deron pulls a Dwight and requests a trade publicly, Billy King is NOT trading him, PERIOD.
But assuming that he does in the future, why would we help ORL get both DH12 and Dwill when that is OUR goal? Would not happen.
Also if ORL thinks anderson+reddick+nelson is a "good" package they are DELUSIONAL AND OUT OF THEIR MINDS.
Only way I deal with ORL if I HAVE to and there would HAVE to be other teams involved because their pieces are GARBAGE. I would rather send Dwill to OKC, Minny, Sacramento or some other place where they have LEGIT young talent and pieces.
We gave up Favors who looks like a stud this year, 3rd pick in 2011(Kanter) + our 2012 GSW top 7 protected pick + Harris for deron, if we trade him we need to recoup some of it back, AT LEAST ONE GOOD YOUNG PLAYER. Orlando does NOT have that. Harris is better than Nelson FFS… LOL
When It comes down to it we hold all of the leverage
- We wont trade DWill to Orlando.
-They dont want to trade Dwight to NJ
Time is on our side.
Orlando cant get DWill without a trade. They cant realy do much since they have unmovable contracts.
NJ can wait til the offseason. We will have the cap space to sign both DWill and Dwight.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 8, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions
and how exactly does he think
that orlando is gonna trade for dwill? and give up what? besides howard, there is nothing on that roster worth trading for dwill, and I’m sure we could find a much better package elsewhere…unless he keeps shooting 30% then maybe nog, but I think he’ll turn it around.
I don't doubt that DWill may be traded
But to Orlando? Can anyone think of a package that makes this halfway feasible? I feel like the MIami Heat are in the running as much as Orlando is for the services of #8.
Yeah also Durant is going to the Knicks for Shumpurt and a 2nd round pick
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 8, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Yeah tweet that from a anonymous account called “sportsreport” or something and then see how many Knicks fans freak out for 24 hours.
by giantsnetsmets on Jan 8, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Orlando is not going to let DH walk.
if on deadline day, the only offer is from NJ , they accept. no doubt in my mind
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by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 8, 2012 12:39 PM EST reply actions
2 more months..UGH!
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look where they are now
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by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 8, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I just dont know what Orlando would be able to offer the Nets…
I like Ryan Anderson and liked Brandon Bass(if they still had him) Gortat would have been nice and Jameer is OK…but they dont hang on to their assets…
by Chris3035 on Jan 8, 2012 12:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
who? the Nets?
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The Nets dont know how to rebuild
by Chris3035 on Jan 8, 2012 1:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If its coming down to the trade deadline I say we tell Orlando to screw if they think we are taking Hedo
By the time the trade deadline comes we might be out of playoff contention. Why should we give away a top 5 pick, Lopez and prob Brooks to take back Hedo’s trash contract. We can just wait until the summer and sign Dwight.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 8, 2012 12:48 PM EST reply actions
and shawne williams
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it's beyond me...
how this guy managed 7 ppg and 40% 3pt last season.
How?
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
and the chair that petro sat on
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
and the shoes that petro wore and the warmups he wore as well
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I'm late to the party but the magic GM Otis Smith is the worse GM in the history of the NBA
REALLY???
Yes Isiah really
We are in another atmosphere. You're just in the Troposhere we in the Exospere. In other words the JETS are higher than you!
no
Isiah wasted a lot of money on crappy players
Otis is being giving a chance to get a top 5 center , young peices ( james, brooks ) , cap space , and $3 million . And he is rejecting that chance
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 8, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
He is greedy
He wants way too much if I was billy my final offer would be: Lopez, Morrow, picks, Petro, and James
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by Keysta101 on Jan 8, 2012 1:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
that package is pretty bad
if we’re going to get him, we’d have to get a third team involved that could offer orlando a better player. outside of nets fan’s fantasyland, our offer has been generally panned by semi-objective pundits as gar-bahge
imagine something extremely witty here
Yea true
I’m sure billy has some teams lined up
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by Keysta101 on Jan 8, 2012 1:39 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Isiah, great drafter
terrible in the free agent department, how many dudes did he go for because they blew up in the playoffs for one year?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 8, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
trevor ariza, channing frye, david lee, nate robinson, wilson chandler, gallo
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 8, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
when you're trading for a player, you're
competing against the other current offers. not with deals from past years involving other teams and other players
imagine something extremely witty here
Deron doesnt care about us
and after seeing him play for us I am NOT impressed at all, with his effort and attitude on the court. He acts like hes too good for this. I understand why Utah traded him like that. We should do the same.
by benjamin411 on Jan 8, 2012 2:06 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Agree to some extent
but don’t go against the grain on this board, everything is rainbow and sunshine here
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
Follow @Meer2Fly16
One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
Who rec'd this?
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 8, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just think for a minute lol
you should be familiar with Netsdaily posters.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
Follow @Meer2Fly16
One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
the same people who thought it was dooms day when deron talked about tax rates
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I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU
HE IS A BIG BABY. CONSTANTLY CRYING ON THE COURT WHEN THINGS ARE GOING BAD. HE KEEPS ON TALKING ABOUT HOW HE IS NOT USED TO LOSING. WHAT HAS HE WON!!!!! NOTHING!!!!! TRADE HIM TO GOLDEN STATE FOR ELLIS AND A PICK AND MOVE ON. THEN WE HAVE ELLIS, BROOKS, LOPEZ AND A TON OF MONEY FOR NEXT YEAR.
lol
You guys dont like seeing Deron’s poor shooting so far? Ellis is the most inefficient chucker in the league.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 8, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Its not the shooting
as much as it is the sulking. I cant stand to see athletes act unprofessional.
I am not watching the same player as you.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 9, 2012 7:43 AM EST up reply actions
Orlando trying to trade for Williams...
What do they have that the Nets would want other than Howard himself?
That tells you how “true” this non-rumor is…
If you can trade Deron for Rondo right now, you have to do it
Rondo would be a perfect compliment to Lopez and Brooks, and plays d and hustles all game. He also is a true team player.
Rondo is also a bargain for the amount he makes — imagine Marshon, Rondo and Lopez along with a top 5 pick in this great draft. Also, we would have alot of room for free agents.
Lets get this done, and get this ingrate Deron out of here!
It is CLEAR that Brooks is a future all star in the making
I am 100% sure Brooks WILL be an NBA all star at some point in the near future.
He has the right skills, height and will only get stronger and more muscle in upcoming years.
Trading him to keep this Deron happy wouldnt be a good move.
As a long time Nets fan
I will confidently and without question say that Stephon Marbury brought us more hustle, leadership, and good moments than Deron Williams has while he has been here.
Tell me one thing this guy has done to convince you that he is a good leader, a good teammate and a Max player??
Really? So the best thing he has done is get someone else on another team
who has never played for the Nets “somewhat interested” in playing with the Nets?
Get the fck out of here
no you get the fudge out of here
Are you kidding me?!! when has any superstar ever requested a trade to the Nets?
never, because they werent going to be the BROOKLYN NETS
the very next season — if they were still in Newark or Izod, not a chance in hell Howard would even consider the Nets…get it?
My mother always told me...
don’t argue with a troll. (LOL)
You got a problem with me benjamin411 ?
Bring it on…in a nice way of course.
Too bad he's play like Moiso now
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
Follow @Meer2Fly16
One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
emotions get the best of players sometimes
he isn’t playing completely crappy, he probably has one of the highest rates of failed assists due to the shooter. He is starting to settle into playing as crappy as the team, but it seems like in anticipation of losing but also of Dwight pairing
From today
Sentinel: Has anything changed with Dwight’s situation?
Smith: No.
Sentinel: Has he pulled back the trade request?
Smith: No.
Sentinel: Has he expanded his list of preferred destinations?
Smith: Not to my knowledge.
Sentinel: Have the Magic granted his agent permission to speak to any team beyond the three teams: the Dallas Mavericks, the Los Angeles Lakers and the New Jersey Nets?
Smith: No.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/snellemoes
by StefanN on Jan 8, 2012 5:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
IM TIRED OF DWILL
RIGHT NOW I THINK THE NETS HAVE TO DO WHATS BEST FOR THEM. WHEN THE TRADE DEADLINE APPROACHES IF THEY HAVE NO CHANCE ON GETTING HOWARD THEY SHOULD TRADE DWILL FOR THE BEST PACKAGE THEY COULD GET BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY HE IS RESIGNING HERE. IF HOWARD REALLY WANTS TO STAY IN ORLANDO AND WANTS DWILL THERE WITH HIM THAT IS WHERE HE WILL BE. HONESTY, I AM TIRED OF SEEING HIM SULK ON THE COURT LIKE A LITTLE BABY ANYWAY. LETS GET SOME GUYS HERE THAT WANT TO PLAY FOR THE BROOKLYN NETS NOT GUYS COMING AT MANAGEMENT LIKE “DO THIS OR ELSE!”
I'm tired of bad fans like you....
The Magic can’t afford D-Will in Free Agency and have no trade assets.
He’s not going to the Magic. End of story. We’re not trading him. We’re all in. Stop putting words into his mouth. He’s said he likes to win….well we’re not winning. He said there’s a bigger picture….there is. He’s said he’s 90% coming back….we’ll see.
So why don’t you like him? Because the Orlando media is spreading ridiculous rumors with no plausible logic behind it? If they had cap space…I might care about this article. If they had Eric Gordon and two first round picks, I might care about this article. They have nothing. They’re over the cap, on terrible contracts that nobody wants to take.
If you’re going to have an opinion. Know the facts. Otherwise, just chill out, and enjoy the 2012 Nets in Brooklyn.
bad fans?
how have you supported this team over the past 20 years?
ItsToo long
not to long…..and I am a realistic Nets fan that doesnt see what all you people living in fantasy land see. Im a Nets fan till I die whether Dwill is here or not. It doesnt make me a bad fan because I dont like watching a grown man sulk on the court like a little girl. And no I wont be around here long because me not spending 6 hrs a night on Netsdaily doesnt make me less of a fan. I just feel bad for some of you people if things dont end up the way you want when this is all said and done. The way some of these people post its like they will fall into a deep depression if we dont have Dwight and Dwill. SMH
This guy wont be around too long
I am 33 and have been a Nets fan since 8th grade. I have have sat trough most of these horrible years, where am I going?
Know the facts
Not once did I say above that the Nets should trade DWill to the Magic. What I said was that the Nets should do whats best for them. If they know DWill doesnt want to stay wouldnt it be smarter to trade him to a team that offers a good package. No mater who that team is. You just heard what you wanted to hear.
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