Are Lakers Afraid That Howard Would Just Be A Rental?
by NetsDaily on Jan 31, 2012 5:21 PM EST
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PrintIn a thorough review of various Dwight Howard scenarios, ESPN's cap expert Larry Coon drops this nugget: "A source close to the negotiations says Howard's representatives warned the Lakers that Howard would opt out of his contract and test the free-agent market next summer -- which has the Lakers' brass understandably nervous."
Howard's agent Dan Fegan was given permission in December to speak with the Lakers, Mavs and Nets about possible deals, but Dallas doesn't have the assets to offer to the Magic.
"A team like the Nets or Lakers would want assurances from Howard's people that he would re-sign before they commit significant assets to a trade," Coon writes. "The Nets may have received this sort of assurance. The Lakers, Clippers and Bulls have not."
Meanwhile, John Hollinger proposes a Nets-Bucks trade (Jordan Farmar, Johan Petro, Anthony Morrow and Damion James for Stephen Jackson, Beno Udrih and Jon Brockman), and concludes that a Howard-to-the-Nets deal has become "the best deal on the board," because MarShon Brooks "has given the Nets another tantalizing piece to put into a Howard deal."
Hollinger's Nets-Magic proposal is Brook Lopez, Brooks, Kris Humphries, Mehmet Okur and four first-round picks for Howard, Hedo Turkoglu and Chris Duhon.
- Playing out the Dwight Howard scenarios - Larry Coon - ESPN
- Time to play let's make a deal - John Hollinger - ESPN Insider
- Stephen Jackson the key to getting Dwight Howard? - Royce Young - CBS Sports
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Giving up way too much. Unnecessary.
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
Also, wouldn’t Hump block that anyway?
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
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I think he has a trade kicker.
by shethravi on Jan 31, 2012 5:51 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
he does not.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
YES SOOOOOO UNECESSARY
WOW all that are they crazy howard is nice but thats just robbery keep howard if thats what we have to give up plus four 1st rounders no way
That deal sure stinks
if we’re the only show in town
i think i am going to be sick
i know what’s coming and it’s going to be day after day after of this and that.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 31, 2012 5:25 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
and hes looking at them....
Simultaneously
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 31, 2012 6:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
The Dwightmare train is in full speed right now.
Can’t be stopped until it reaches its final destination.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 31, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
runaway train
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
now i'm just going to sit back, relax and enjoy the show
not talking about our games (of course)
excuse my bad english please
by -Seiti- on Jan 31, 2012 5:26 PM EST via Android app reply actions
who else is
Going to run in the stands and punch fans to help a teammate out??
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 31, 2012 6:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Getting Stephen Jackson seems unnecessary.
$10 million per for an aged shooting guard? Sincerely doubt he’s a dealbreaker for Dwight.
unless Howard wants it
and I suspect he does
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
well if he does
he should make sure he leaves us in good enough position to get S-Jax after getting him
otherwise Dwight can turn in Ass’t GM cards in
Jackson expires next season anyway
It’s not like he would hinder our flexibility long term. We’d have him for 1 season.
he has this whole season
plus the first year in Brooklyn.
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agreed
Personally I dont see the point of getting Jax but if DH12 wants him… it will give us cap in 2014 I guess
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but he wanted Morrow too
I don’t get why we would trade a better shooter for someone older and more volatile
by sheepareevil on Jan 31, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
then Howard can ask LA to get SJax
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To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
Do they take us for Idiots?
He is basically saying that this is the only place he wants to go. Why would we give up so much. I would give up less. WE HOLD ALL THE CARDS!!
If Howard isn't giving LA any assurances that he will re-sign if they deal Pau and Bynum
then they won’t give those two up. No way in hell.
Bynum straight up won’t be nearly enough to get a deal done either.
I like our chances assuming Brook and MarShon return healthy.
I think it's more than that
It’s that he’s not sold on playing in L.A. with Kobe. The Lakers are still Kobe’s team and I don’t think Dwight a) wants to be a part of that and b) doesn’t want to follow Shaq’s footsteps.
by ZR on Jan 31, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Deron has sold him
and Dwight only has eyes for Deron
our boy has delivered the goods
I'll believe it when I see it...not trying to be negative
I really really hope you’re right.
by ZR on Jan 31, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
DO NOT GIVE UP BROOKS!!!!
The guy is going to be a star…….
If we trade for Dwight
it is all but a certainty Brooks will be included. The Magic can still use LA as leverage and I’d be willing to bet anything the Nets would not play hard ball.
I'm with Bubbles. Do not give up Brooks!
Deron and Brooks should be untouchable. I still wince when I see Ryan Anderson, and Brooks should be much better. I’d say a pick instead of Brooks, but I have to be honest: I don’t follow college ball, and many of you keep saying how great this draft is going to be.
If he had to choose between Steven Jackson, who’s 100 in basketball years, and Morrow (younger and better in the locker room), I have to believe he’d choose Morrow. Clearly, Deron means a whole lot more than the rest of the people on the list. Deron loves the rookie and he’s probably said something about him to Dwight.
we can trade hump and then he can just come back for the opening of Barclays!
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Have to love Hollinger
Guy totally neglects the fact that the deal agreed upon by Orlando GM Otis Smith prior to this season was a three team deal. The Nets are not going to have give up all of those pieces and 4 draft picks to get a deal done.
Of course not...but that's not the point
He calls himself a journalist but fails to take certain things into account.
by ZR on Jan 31, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
If Howard wont give anybody except us assurances
then we can reduce our original offer…
That's the whole point...we have no idea
But is Bynum enough to pry Howard alone? I think they have to include Gasol to make it work. Or find a third team with another prime asset. Let’s hope not.
by ZR on Jan 31, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
0% chance of that
IMO
lakers arent dealing for him
certainly not
if they don’t have a ace left in their pocket
excuse my bad english please
by -Seiti- on Jan 31, 2012 5:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Would this work?
Send in a pick if you want somewhere?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7y82ufd
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Its almost like he is a free agent right now.....
Who will deal without any assurances?? Nobody
if its true and the Nets are the only team we got assurance from...
We should be in the driver seat.. we should not have to give up all the assets..
by kupalski on Jan 31, 2012 5:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Terrible
Hollinger’s Nets-Magic proposal is Brook Lopez, Brooks, Kris Humphries, Mehmet Okur and four first-round picks for Howard, Hedo Turkoglu and Chris Duhon.
This would make us worse than the magic is now. Horrible deal. 4 draft picks?
Wayy too much
It’s time for these kids to man up and play the game like the seasoned chess players who own the league.
Dwight wants to play with Deron and win a chip? Ok wait sign as a free agent they both take less money allowing Brook Lopez and Hump to be resigned. Which would give them the best front court in the NBA. We keep Marshon young multi skilled wing and we keep our draft picks and pick up Perry Jones or Terrence Jones with a mid first rounder to play SF. We sign J Kidd to back up Deron. While keeping Morrow who Dwight wants to play with . It makes sense.
Open the billion dollar Arena As an instant title contender who has more balance top to bottom with any team in the NBA.
Best PG rotation, good shooters, best power rotation in the NBA. With a mix of bonafied primetime superstars (Dwight/Deron) talented youth(Brooks and draft picks) and experienced vets with (Kidd Stevenson) etc.
Only a few more months in the season which is moving fast.
All Dwight has to say is I’m only signing in BROOKLYN this summer. Just man up and take the boos.
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by MrBDown on Jan 31, 2012 6:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lets not come the Knicks...
We don’t want to bid against ourselves.
Yawn
These fools keep writing articles that mean nothing. Nothing will happen until March, and event then, maybe nothing. Speculation. BUT I agree with this: like the Knicks, Nets will be gutted for this deal. Nothing will be left.
Nets have offered more. I think the Nets were offering 5 for Gerald Wallce in that 3 team proposal with the Blazers. So don’t be surprised.
"Beware the Ides of March."
Gerald Wallace would have gone to Magic.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 31, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
while it may be a bit much
those picks would probably be late first round anyways
by NJ Champ on Jan 31, 2012 6:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Four draft picks is a bit much
Ours this year, Houstons this year, and MAYBE next years. but 4? no way.
the proposed deal is AWFUL
I would rather stick with what we have and let Dwight come here as a free agent which I believe to be inevitable
by i says on Jan 31, 2012 5:53 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
or risk losing him AND deron to dallas..
price you have to pay. i mean were taking about DWIGHT freakin HOWARD! Guy is agruably the best player in the NBA
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Jan 31, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
we could easily fill out our roster
after our trade. vets would love to play with dwill and dwight in bk
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by BrooklynNets8 on Jan 31, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that's what the Knicks said and how is that working out
People have to really put things in perspective. When you talk about a bunch of young talented BUT RINGLESS superstars. Dwight has no rings ditto for Bosh LeBron Melo and Stat. The stars that have rings did so with well balanced rosters. 4 1st round picks, Brook Lopez, Marshon Brooks, Anthony Morrow, Okur,damion James,etc. So essentially 9 guys under 25 for one center who shoots horribly from the line and still doesn’t have a consistent J? Stupid trade it takes two
If Dwight wants to really be here. He can make it happen without crippling us.
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by MrBDown on Jan 31, 2012 6:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
wow
Lopez = average center
Brooks = still young but very promising
morrow = biggest one dimensional player in the nba
Okur = sucks
James = sucks
Dwight Howard = Best center, best defender, makes us relevant, gets us on TV, We will actually be in the playoffs, sells jersey (i never see Dwill or nets stuff in any store its all knicks stuff)
Lopez is top 5 in his position at 23
potential 22/9/2 guy. He can be really good.
Brooks can be a 20 PPG scorer in this league.
Morrow is a role player but solid role player
Okur is trash
James is injury prone
Howard is still worth it though.
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Think about this
Howard gives you 23/12/3
You just said Brook can give you 22/9/2
And Marshon can give us 20/5/4 Billy got Marshon at 25 in a “weak” draft. Would love to see what he could get us with 2 mid first rounders in a deep stacked draft.
So you give up 2-3 potential ALL Star players for one Superstar player? Espeacially when it’s known we are his top choice? Why overpay?
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by MrBDown on Jan 31, 2012 6:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
key word "potential"
potential gets you absolutely nowhere in the NBA
Remember Nets fans our record in 2009 was 12-70
12 and 70.......................
The fact that we have Deron and a chance at Dwight is a miracle
Maybe because the NETS play is Jersey
The Brooklyn on the front could sell petro jerseys.
And Brook Lopez average? You must not really understand the state of the center position. Brook is top three right now which makes him way above average. There were TWO centers in the league that averaged better than 20ppg last year. They were Brook Lopez and Dwight Howard. And while Dwight is better defensively Brook is better offensively.
MarShon is a versatile solid young wing at worst. The guy makes shots and will only get better. Dwight and Deron need a Wing like Marshon. Marshon is ALREADY getting double teamed.
Before we go casting judgements we should really see Deron/Marshon/Hump/Brook together. And risk having no draft picks in a deep stock draft when you started with 2?
Kris Humphries will be able to sell a Brooklyn jersey. We don’t need Dwight to sell jerseys.
Right now WE NEED TO GET HEALTHY.
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by MrBDown on Jan 31, 2012 6:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
good point but ur forgetting one minor detail
we have been the worst team in the NBA the past 3 years
Remember Nets fans our record in 2009 was 12-70
12 and 70.......................
The fact that we have Deron and a chance at Dwight is a miracle
yeah because the guys we have now are just winning sooo many games
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by BrooklynNets8 on Jan 31, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
yeah our roster is full of studs
Gaines Petro Larry Owens Shawne Williams get lots of quality minutes for us
I can feel a 3 peat coming!!!!
Remember Nets fans our record in 2009 was 12-70
12 and 70.......................
The fact that we have Deron and a chance at Dwight is a miracle
oh and Sheldon Williams to, he's gotta be an all star this year!
Remember Nets fans our record in 2009 was 12-70
12 and 70.......................
The fact that we have Deron and a chance at Dwight is a miracle
He is not going to Dallas .. The market is too small
by BubblesHAwkins on Jan 31, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
no it isnt
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by BrooklynNets8 on Jan 31, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
Tell that to Jerry Jones
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
by Atronic on Feb 1, 2012 5:02 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Those deals make me want to throw up.
We’d basically have Dwight, Deron, and a pile of hot expensive garbage. That’s not getting us anywhere.
No.
Deron + Dwight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melo+ Amare
Not even close.
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yes of course
but still. I don’t an incredibly unbalanced team with just two superstars I can’t relate to because we bought them in trades. I want Dwight and Deron, for sure, but can’t hang onto at least ONE of Morrow, Hump, Lopez, or Brooks?
by sheepareevil on Jan 31, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
we don't know who will stay
I doubt they give up EVERYTHING.
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me too
but I think we were all reacting against Hollinger’s report that they would. I’d be okay with Brooks+Lopez+1st, but frankly I’d like to see if Billy can pull some leverage and say “either Brooks or 1st rounder”, if the Magic bail I really do think Dwight will come in FA.
by sheepareevil on Jan 31, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
This
Would be 2 great deals in my opinion. We get Steven Jackson, beno udrih, which I believe is an upgrade over farmar, and basically just trade away a shooter who can only make wide open threes.
For the Dwight trade, we are releasing a lot of cap which will carry over to even more cap space in free agency.
We can get a solid draft pick in the draft this year to fill the power forward spot. Sign JR smith.
Dwill, smith, sjax, draft pick, Dwight
by njnets8 on Jan 31, 2012 5:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
But 4 first round picks would not happen. 2 at most.
by njnets8 on Jan 31, 2012 5:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
nope certainly more than 2
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by BrooklynNets8 on Jan 31, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
Everybody can go besides DWill and Marshon
by ommhardy7 on Jan 31, 2012 5:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I may have just clicked on the wrong action (sorry). AGREED: KEEP MARSHON
Not sure how that happened.
I want no part of that trade
Let’s wait it out, he’ll be a Net come July.
We wouldn’t be any better than we are right now, and we’d have all those terrible contracts.
NO THANKS ORLANDO
u kidding me!!!?
we give lopez, humphries, okur, which i think would be good enough as is for dwight maybe with a 1st rounder to sweeten the deal. and then we give marshon who is a future all star and 3 more 1sts to orlando AND we take back turgolu and duhon!! this guys crazy. marshons not going anywhere and neither are 4 first rounders. maybe 2
wut.
Hump and 4 picks? Meh. Anyway, this is looking really good. The Nets are in really good shape.
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
a guy can dream right?
i still dream of the chance that dwight
firmly says he will only re-sign with the nets if he gets traded.
if that happens, then we really don’t have to trade away as many assets.
wolves never rest
If we do have all of the leverage
billy will say to otis, you will have to choose between either marshon or, our 1st round pick from this years draft!!! He certainly wont give all those picks, brooks, and lopez…..and lets forget about hump, the guy can veto that trade, and i would have to say he will
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 31, 2012 6:04 PM EST reply actions
That deal won't happen
We have ALL the leverage right now, expect Orlando to get much, much less if a deal is done.
Hump has a no trade clause. Realistically, we’re going to lose atleast 1 unprotected first rounder, lopez and brooks which is more than enough of a rebuilding package. On top of that, they’ll get salary relief as well. Most nets fans here are beyond content with rebuilding with lopez, brooks and a 2012 pick, the magic should get some sense and realize how much of a steal that is, being in their position.
i still think the knicks will have some kind of say in this whole thing
i dont discount them offering MELO…..
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 31, 2012 6:07 PM EST reply actions
Dwight will opt out this summer...
regardless of the team he gets traded to…and test the FA market. Any team other than the Nets…risks losing players for a rental in any trade.
by BKNfastbreak on Jan 31, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
exactamundo
Howard would opt out of his contract and test the free-agent market next summer — which has the Lakers’ brass understandably nervous."
Just wait till he’s a free agent.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
The Knicks have no point guard
Howard needs to play with a premier point guard. And he has chosen Deron as HIS point guard. Game over.
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by MrBDown on Jan 31, 2012 6:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
article made me happy
Looks like its pretty much set among dwill n dh n billy that dwight coming to brooklyn…
we need this….can’t wait to hear dh is a net and all my friends that were like he ain’t going there and dwill walking can eat a big fat huge long cockerspaniel….
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 31, 2012 6:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This board is saying eerily similar things to what Posting & Toasting was saying about the Melo trade.
Not that Melo is anywhere near Dwight, but P&T was freaking out about how if Melo wanted to be there so bad, he should just wait until the summer instead of gutting the team.
I am in favor of the Dwight or Bust approach. Don’t get too attached to these guys.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"I’m anxious to see if they make the same mistake twice." - Shaq talking about the Magic.
by Maxyboy on Jan 31, 2012 6:14 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
seriously
I would give up Lopez+ marshon + picks for DH12 YESTERDAY if it meant having the best big and a top 3 PG together. The rest will sort itself out.
Give me Dwill + Howard and we will figure out the rest.
OBVIOUSLY we all want to just add him via free agency in the summer, but it’s clear it won’t happen now. Things in Orlando don’t look too good.
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by Claud on Jan 31, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
difference was the looming lock-out...
there were big question marks about how much money Melo would need to give up with the new CBA. Turns out he made very little extra by forcing the trade.
The other difference is that Melo signed extension after being traded. No matter the team…Dwight will become a free agent this summer. The team he gets traded to…will be able to offer slightly more money and 5th year.
by BKNfastbreak on Jan 31, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
were they wrong though?
they gutted their team. sure Melo and Amare is a bad combination whereas Deron + Dwight would be a lethal one, but they still gave up the rest of their roster for one star. I think we would have leverage here, and don’t need to give up all those pieces.
by sheepareevil on Jan 31, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Question.
The Bucks trade would happen along side the Magic trade?
yes otherwise it makes no sense
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Dont want to give up Hump
but it seems like they would be in each others way fighting for the same rebounds.
Hump is a very poors man dwight
you need the other big to be able to stretch the floor and give dwight room to operate
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dont get me wrong though, id love to keep the hump
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I like to c what would happen
If Brook came back strong n we got a sf who could get us 16-18 a game.
we've been waiting for that SF who can get us 16/18 a long time now
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BK Got This
Nets fans need not worry. Billy King will make good deals between now and Brooklyn. He is not going to give up the ranch for D12. We don’t have to. He wants to come to Brooklyn and another team is not going to rent D12. And BK is not going to give up Brooks he is not stupid. He is agressive and smart and I have faith that he will make it happen.
I like double d's. Deron and Dwight lol.
by TrueNetFan4Life on Jan 31, 2012 6:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Getting better
How r we suppose to get better if we keep trading away good talent brooks will b a star I would rather wait until free agencies
by Raymond Harris jr on Jan 31, 2012 6:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
We get better by getting Dwight Howard. As in, best defense in the league better. As in two Top 5 at their position players better.
3 time DPOY, MVP candidate
plus you add the fact that Deron will FINALLY have someone who can catch and finish.
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Brooks will be an allstar?
I think he can be VERY good but allstar?
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brooks COULD be but DWIGHT IS ALREADY
how many draft picks are rumored to be the next so and so.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 31, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
Brooks COULD be ann Allstar.
Lopez COULD be the 2nd best big in the NBA.
our 2012 COULD end up giving us an allstar player
Dwight IS a superstar
Dwight is DPOY 3 years running
Dwight is arguably the 2nd best player in the LEAGUE.
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Way to soon to say Brooks will be an all star. Teams don’t have as much time to watch film, practice plays, or prepare for the other teams this season.
Brooks has an element of the unknown now but his challenge is going to be how he reacts when teams start making him a priority. We’ve seen that the Thunder and Celtics were able to neutralize him but those are plus defensive teams.
They neutralized him by treating him like a STAR PLAYER
They doubled him and tried to keep the ball out of his hands. They saw something in Brooks that made two championship caliber teams consider him our biggest threat. What do they see that you don’t?
Marshon is a blue chip offensive players he is athletic crafty smart and aggressive. He has so many ways to score he will always be a tough guard.
Marshon with Deron and Brook would be lethal. You need a premier wing player and Marshon can be that. After giving up so much for Dwight and Deron we wont have money or chips to get a premier wing. So you keep Marshon who while is good enough to fill that role is also CHEAP FOR TWO MORE SEASONS.
If you have Go watch Marshon when other teams play by play guys call the games and see what others say about him.
We can’t get obsessed with Dwight just to say we have Dwight.
I WANT TO WIN AND WIN BIG. Deron or Dwight won’t be asked to guard Kobe, LeBron,Wade or Durant. We need a Wing who can compete.
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by MrBDown on Jan 31, 2012 7:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
From today...
Magic general manager Otis Smith indicated Monday that he has no plans to make a major move to alter his team’s roster in the near future.
“If a string of losses causes you to change your plans, then I’m in the wrong job,” Smith said Monday night, before the Magic fell 74-69 to the Philadelphia 76ers to lose their fourth consecutive game.
Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/218675/Otis_Smith_No_Moves_Imminent_For_Magic#ixzz1l55ootx1
Either Dwight and his agent have manned up and told Orlando, NJ (not fleeced) or bust or Otis is crazy or he is waiting for March 1st.
That's Great News
So Otis you hold on to D12 and let him come to us next season as a FA without us giving up a thing then and keep those bad contracts lol
I like double d's. Deron and Dwight lol.
by TrueNetFan4Life on Jan 31, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously who cares
Who cares what we have to give up for Dwight? In case you have noticed our records the past 3 years
2011 (so far) 7-14
2010 – 24-58
2009 – 12-70
Time for major changes
by NFL33000 on Jan 31, 2012 6:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
unfortunately not
Nope, i went to games during that 2009 season (disgrace beyond belief)
Time for smart changes
I like double d's. Deron and Dwight lol.
by TrueNetFan4Life on Jan 31, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Then What?
we trade farmar and morrow for jackson. Brook and Brooks for Howard then who plays with howard and dwill besides jackson. we end up like the knicks…bare
by stringerbel4 on Jan 31, 2012 6:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
STOP
Howard and Dwill is CLEARLY a superior duo than Melo and Amare.
Give me those 2 together on a team and we’ll fill in the holes.
ok u got 3 who are the other starters...gaines..shawne williams..lol
by stringerbel4 on Jan 31, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
because no other roster moves are possible.
We’d still have the MLE and LLE to use. The MLE would be plenty to attract a good piece.
Gaines!!!! oh hell no..shawne williams..lmao..N d bench?.
by stringerbel4 on Jan 31, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
it's not a given brooks will be heading to orlando should the nets and magic pull off a deal
all comes down to the market. Billy king no fool.
I'm begginning to accept the inevitable...
if this is what it takes to get Howard, so be it.
We’d still have Farmar and Morrow who could give us possible OJ Mayo and there’s the Bogi guy over Europe showing some promise.
By the way, Billy can give picks away but can also get them back from other deals, that’s how it works.
Howard+DWill is ridiculously better than Melo and Amare anyway so we’d own NY.
Go Nets!
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
by Nets-ness on Jan 31, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Top 10 PG and best C in the league.
Key positions for any championship team.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
we arent the knicks
ok you can have Petro at center if you to…lol wow some people are delusional
Umm I think someone besides Petro would be playing Center
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"I’m anxious to see if they make the same mistake twice." - Shaq talking about the Magic.
well when people want to say were giving up to much for dwight
Im just saying you can have Petro at center if you want instead of dwight
Remember Nets fans our record in 2009 was 12-70
12 and 70.......................
The fact that we have Deron and a chance at Dwight is a miracle
Oh sorry thought you were on the other side haha
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"I’m anxious to see if they make the same mistake twice." - Shaq talking about the Magic.
I'd do Farmar and Petro for SJAX
but only after getting Dwight. That contract hurts flexibility if done before.
As for Dwight,
Brook, Brooks, Hump, Okur +4picks is STEEP. But it’s a price one has to pay. It’s a big risk if you wait till free agency unless you are 200% positive and have that guarantee that he will sign in the offseason. That’s the only way you play hard ball. Otherwise, you have to pay it. Taking back Hedo’s contract would be killer, but it doesn’t put the Nets in as bad a situation as the Knicks
If the Nets still have going into next season JWill, Morrow, ,SWill, that’s roughly 11mil
Add Hedo and Duhon and SJAX 26mil, that’s 37mil
Dwight and Deron at about 40mil. Nets will be over the cap next year and can sign some vets, use the MLE and LLE ,
But, with the exception of Dwight and Deron, all the others next season will be expirings. Which makes them even easier to move (Hedo’s contract is not guaranteed in 2013/2014).
I’ll take that over what we have right now.
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 31, 2012 6:30 PM EST reply actions
Ok everyone...
Let’s not get too excited.
The pendulum has just swung the other way. It’s the news cycle. Before, everyone was saying “not to the Nets”. Now, in order to get everyone to read stuff, they’re saying “to the Nets”. I’m sure in the next few weeks, other b.s. options will pop up just to get eyeballs and page impressions.
If you deal with just the tangibles, take comfort in the fact that Dwight coming to the Nets is a legitimate possibility, much more legitimate than Carmelo Anthony at the time. However, beyond that, remember how badly the Nets are viewed by anyone outside of us (Nets fans). Despite all the logical reasons of why he should come here, especially by free agency, Dwight, like other NBA players, is ruled by ego and the perception that the Nets are losers will definitely be a factor in his decision.
Who said 'Not to the Nets?"
The Nets have been “first on the list” for a long while now.
yup we have ALWAYS been number 1
Official member of the "DO NOT TRADE MARSHON "SWAG" BROOKS" Society!
4 1st rounders?
did i miss anything.. i rather wait till the summer lol. but i’ll still do the bucks trade.
Forget the SJax ideas
Orlando will want to dump Hedo first.
I still think the Nets should not give in to this crazy idea that Steven Jackson is a lure for Dwight. There’s no way a guy lets that be his dealbreaker
Dont want to lose Morrow for Stephen Jackson.
Although I like Sjax and his ganstaish ways. Keep our toughness up, i still wouldn’t pull the trigger especially with his salary.
Brooks & Morrow and Lopez
I don’t want Stevie Jackson and except for Dwight, I don’t want to give up either of these guys. Stevie Jackson is a crazy old guy. No NO NO. Petro, Farmar and a #2 if we MUST have Jackson. No Morrow, certainly not MarShon.
AND Lopez doesn’t play another game for the NETS. He leaves at the trade deadline, for DWight. But I wish we could keep MarShon. You need three really good players to make noise in the playoffs, MarShon might be good enough to be one of three, with Dwight and DWILL.
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
I'd do Petro and Farmar for Jax
simply to get rid of Petro and Farmar. that’s a steal for us.
by sheepareevil on Jan 31, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Only go after Stephen Jackson if...
only if Dwight gives a solid garuantee that he will sign with the Nets as a free agent no matter which team he is traded to should Orlando go down that path. Otherwise, there’s no point in going after Stephen. He is a team cancer and he’s going to want another extension.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
by BigTom on Jan 31, 2012 6:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
In the proposed deal we would be dealing Morrow for Stephen...
what’s the point?
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
i’ll take the jackson trade wait for howard in the summer resign lopez n trade him for josh smith.
dwill brooks jackson smith n howard. top team easy.
the hawks would trade josh smith for lopez because why? they already have horford
Remember Nets fans our record in 2009 was 12-70
12 and 70.......................
The fact that we have Deron and a chance at Dwight is a miracle
Horford really is a PF
The Hawks have been trying to get a quality big man to move Horford to his naturaly PF position. He is a cross between Duncan and Aldrdge. A guy who can play center if needed but would be much more effective playing the PF position.
by bettacalltyrone on Feb 1, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Wow that's disgusting
Brook
Brooks
4 first
for howard + super salary ?
Is Hollinger Serious ?
No
He’s smoking crack
I like double d's. Deron and Dwight lol.
by TrueNetFan4Life on Jan 31, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
These are all going to be mostly worthless first rounders.
The trade is basically Houston’s 18th pick in the 2012 draft, the Nets 19th pick in the 2012 draft, the Nets 28th-31st pick in the subsequent every other year draft.
And Lopez + Brooks + Hump for Howard and Turkoglu plus whatever else makes the math work.
How is that not a good trade for the Nets?
Remind yourself, the Nets gave up the #3 pick in the draft, the eventual #3 pick in the next draft, Devin Harris and what will probably be the 15th pick in this year’s draft from Golden State.
Favors, Kanter, Harris who will eventually expire and the 15th pick in a stacked draft.
That’s a way more valuable package than what we’re offering for Howard.
understood..
But I dont understand why teams would gut themselves so two superstars can play next to ten scrubs and the team has no draft picks to rebuild
by stringerbel4 on Jan 31, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
I like double d's. Deron and Dwight lol.
by TrueNetFan4Life on Jan 31, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
that was the deal before minus brooks
Official member of the "DO NOT TRADE MARSHON "SWAG" BROOKS" Society!
In what logical world
Should our chances of attaining a top 2 NBA player hinge on signing…. Stephen Jackson?
Stephen Jackson is bad. Is there any chance we could maybe, you know, not trade for him?
I think Billy King is a smart guy and he’s not going to let this dumb report change his plan of action. The Nets are looking to dump salary, not gain it, especially when it’s a shooting guard who is .417 from the field in his career and shoots the 3 at .340.
hes better than anyone we have now except for dwill marshon lopez and hump
Remember Nets fans our record in 2009 was 12-70
12 and 70.......................
The fact that we have Deron and a chance at Dwight is a miracle
but yeah I dont really want him, i would rather have Turkoglu
Remember Nets fans our record in 2009 was 12-70
12 and 70.......................
The fact that we have Deron and a chance at Dwight is a miracle
in case you haven't noticed Morrow can do 1 thing and 1 thing only
Remember Nets fans our record in 2009 was 12-70
12 and 70.......................
The fact that we have Deron and a chance at Dwight is a miracle
anyone else notice you have to use the twitter link to get to the game thread?
by netsyankees4life on Jan 31, 2012 6:53 PM EST reply actions
Here is the link for everyone
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 31, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
its because of the time the game thread was posted earlier today
usually one of the mods reposts it when its closer to gametime
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 31, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Deron + Dwight is a match made in heaven
There is nothing to figure out on the court with those two. They are a perfect combo. There hasnt been a top 3 PG + C combo like this in i dont know how long(magic + Kareem last ones that come to mind). Am i missing one from then till now?
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 31, 2012 7:03 PM EST reply actions
patrick ewing and derek harper? LOL
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 31, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Learn from the knicks nets and don't big against yourself.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
I hope we can keep Hump
He puts up solid numbers for us and would work well next to howard. Screw this SJax crap, dude is done and was never that good to being with
watch all of our guys start playing like
utter garbage until this is resolved.
loads ’o fun
imagine something extremely witty here
Didn't even realize this
but Stephen Jackson is represented by Fegan, the same guy who represents D12!
Hasn’t King talked to or spoke with Fegan in the past? It’s possible he told the Nets Dwight wants SJax, and that would help their chances. Would also be good for Fegan as well
We'll Be Fine.
But SJax is old (34) and makes a lot of money (10M)
I’m sure if Dwight becomes free agent, we will dump some expandable salaries, and also Dwill and Dwight will don’t mind to take a little paycut to build a better team around them. They have 26, 27 years are in their prime and both want badly a chance to win championships, and going for a big and a new market like Brooklyn they know they know they can win a lot of money in sponsorship.
2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!
If this is true, let test free agency....
Nets are by far the best option in free agency…
DWill
Brooks
AK47
Lopez
Howard
Add the lotto pick, in one of the best drafts of this millenium and you have the best team in the league in 2 years.
For me the the best way to defeat the Heat is, aside from the obviously need of having, 2,3 superstars and the at the top of their position is having 2 dominant inside forces, to explore Heat main weakness. Lopez and Howard woul scorch Bosh and Joel Anthony.
2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!
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