Lopez Runs, But Nets Will Wait On Brooks
by NetsDaily on Jan 31, 2012 12:52 PM EST
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Unfortunately, news regarding the players who are currently on the Nets' roster is entirely focused on injury updates. And its mostly bad news.
The one good thing we learned on Tuesday is that Brook Lopez ran for the first time since having surgery on his right foot. Avery Johnson wouldn't give an update on MarShon Brooks, but Deron Williams hinted Brooks won't return from his broken toe until around the same time that Lopez gets back.
Johnson wouldn't offer an update on DeShawn Stevenson (right knee) either, and said that Mehmet Okur had a "procedure" on his ailing back. Okur may return for Saturday's game in New York or Monday's game vs. the Bulls.
Only 10 Nets will be available Tuesday in Indiana, and Larry Owens will likely get the start at small forward.
- Nets offer no update on Brooks; Lopez runs for first time - Colin Stephenson - Star-Ledger
- Nets could see Lopez, Brooks back in mid-February - Fred Kerber - New York Post Nets Blog
- Game 22: Nets at Pacers - Tim Bontemps - New York Post Nets Blog
- Nets to dress only 10 players tonight - Andy Vasquez - NJ Nets Nation
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you trying to be funny?
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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 31, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes
Great news…Run Blo Run
Go Nets!
If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.
sigh...
shouldn’t have played brooks
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
Now wait until the update on Brook taking his first flight
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Can't wait until he's back
Hes better than Jefferson and Hibbert. I’m sure he’s going to prove it before the year ends
Whens the soonest we will see Lopez then?
2 weeks? Which would then mean thats about the timetable for Brooks?
I think it's fine.
I’ve been saying (with little actual basis) that the 15th against Memphis could make sense for Lopez with the 3 day break before the game. Granted I know nothing, but I’d say it’s safe to say that’s the earliest
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
Hope they dont rush lopez back too soon
Not even just for the dwight trade. Hes a good dude. Dont want to see him have this reoccurring.
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 31, 2012 12:59 PM EST reply actions
Sources say the Magic will demand
Larry Owens in any possible trade for Dwight Howard. NJN are reportedly refusing this proposal and offering Anthony Morrow instead.
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 31, 2012 1:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Francesa just threw the Nets under the bus
What a slob.
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by D Will to Succeed on Jan 31, 2012 1:08 PM EST reply actions
smh
he said at nets shootaround alot of misses..cant wait till we trump those clowns across the river. I cannot wait!
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 31, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
“Nets are probably shooting around right now. And you know at Nets’ shoot around there’s a lot of rebounds.”
"Beware the Ides of March."
daaaaaaaamn
I mean I’m mad but I laughed
by giantsnetsmets on Jan 31, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
I can't believe he actually mentioned the Nets in the first place
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Im a terrible fan
i thought that was funny
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Funny like: "Spot on!"
Can’t deny it.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 31, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
And
He will be the first one DYING for an interview with Dwight and Dwill.
He is an idiot and will always be Mad Dogs side kick.
The DONT Trade MarShon Brooks Movement!!!!!!!
People who know Mike personally say he amps up his shtick for ratings purposes
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
lebron's was also an offensive foul
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
That was sick too
but my reaction was
LeBron over Lucas: WOW!
Griffin over Perkins: ^$#$&!@!!!!??? (Falls out of chair)
As for all-time, I’d still take VC over French Center. If we are sticking to NBA, T-Mac over Bradley(in PO).
by mvmt84 on Jan 31, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Griffin was ON Perk
Lebron was OVER Lucas. Big difference.
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by D Will to Succeed on Jan 31, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Did you factor in the height/weight difference?
by Clayton Balch on Jan 31, 2012 1:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
That is why VC over the 7ft Frenchman is that much more impressive.
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by D Will to Succeed on Jan 31, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
That would be Frederic Weiss..
… the guy the Knicks selected instead of Ron Artest in the 1999 draft.
not to mention
Lucan ducked
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Lucas*
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nah
dude was straight doubled over
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VC's olympic dunk is and probably always will be the best dunk of all time
by sheepareevil on Jan 31, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
It's hard to fathom, really
Dude crouched down a bit, so let’s say for argument’s sake Weis measured 6’ 5" while crouching. 6’5" = 77 inches. Is 77 inch vertical jump even possible? It’s mind-blowing.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Greatest dunk of all-time, but...
You have to subtract the length from foot-to-crotch (and consider the push-off with the hand) to calculate the vert.
Well, do we know the length of VC's inseam? (hesistate)
That will solve it.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
well vertical jump is from your floor to your feet pretty much
thats 77 inches from the floor to his moiso
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by netsareboss on Jan 31, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
true, sorry about that :)
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
it's not even about how high he jumped for me
I mean obviously jumping over a 7 footer is a huge part of the dunk. it’s just that he received the ball with momentum going towards the basket, saw a big man in his way, and DID NOT CARE. he was dunking the ball, and he made Weiss duck out of HIS way. he could have easily dribble around him, but why do that when you can jump over him?
by sheepareevil on Jan 31, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Once again, if anyone missed it:
Offensive Foul by an entitled trampoline guy masquerading as a basketball player
. . .
I’d say that over 50% of posters are offensive fouls.
That dunk was disgusting. Don’t hate.
by Dopeness on Jan 31, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll take about 50 Vince dunks over that onel
He barely even touched the rim.
Not saying it wasn’t impressive, but people calling that top 3 of all-time? Vince says Hi.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 31, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
yea people are overreacting
just a tad bit
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcU66xdeGck
I’ll take that dunk over Blake’s.
But, of course, it’s Griifin and the media hype.
"Beware the Ides of March."
by Andy. on Jan 31, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I take that over Griffin's dunk, too.
But that takes into account the entire play, with the dribble around the back.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 31, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t.
If we’re talking about degree of difficulty: there are plenty of dunks better than Griffin’s (including LeBron’s of Lucas). However, if you sit me down and just have me watch some of these dunks and gauge how good they are by how I react (uncontrollable twitching, jumping up and looking around like you’ve just seen a crime, searching for someone to show it to; just the overall excitement of the dunk) I’d say that Griffin’s is top-15, probably even top-10.
See, I had a different reaction.
The Griffin dunk, I think my initial reaction was a “HOT DAMN.” I wasn’t losing my mind, like so many other people seem to be doing. This accurately describes my reaction to the Carter dunk above:
But this is a level very separate from all time dunks such as Pippen over Ewing or Carter over Weiss. My reaction to those dunks were * dies *
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 31, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Blakes was a throw down. Not a dunk, Doesn't count.
So there.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 31, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
So would I
it’s a DUNK.
The Griffin “dunk” on Mozgov last year and Dwight’s superman “dunk” aren’t dunks. Throwing the ball in the rim just isn’t the same.
they are layups on steroids
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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 31, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
THANK YOU
Dwight’s superman "dunk" aren’t dunks
I remember Magic yelling about how he threw it at the rim and how that was somehow more spectacular. I was like “that’s not a dunk.” If he was above the rim and threw it in, that’s one thing, but Dwight was a good 3 or 4 inches away from the rim and threw it AT the rim.
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VC!
Factor in Perkins isn’t remotely close to Alonzo’s blocking ability and this wins hands down.
VC best dunker…Ever!
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exactly
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by D Will to Succeed on Jan 31, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
meh
don’t be obsessed with it. it technically wasn’t even a dunk
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 31, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Oh moiso
did I really just see that? Thats ridiculous, he was in the air for so long. I didn’t even think he was gonna make it. DAYUMMMM. Why can’t Petro do that?
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overrated
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
His one on Mozgov was better because he just elevated vertically.
With this one, it was sort of horizontal and sideways around Perkins. And let’s be honest — he didn’t even make Perkins budge an inch. And he just sort of spiked the ball through the hoop rather than dunked it. Dominique, MJ, VC, Pippen, JR Smith, and JRich all have dunks better than this.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Its not the best dunk
but its still nasty
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I'm saying it's overrated because people are saying it's the best dunk ever.
But you agree that it’s not the best dunk ever, so in effect, you agree with me that it’s overrated.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
oh
who said it was the best dunk ever? ESPN?
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most of these dunks are better, especially the Pippen one:
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/1/31/2760958/blake-griffin-dunk-kendrick-perkins-clippers-thunder
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Interesting.
See, to me, the only dunk that was better than the Griffin one (of the one’s shown in that article) was the Vince Carter dunk.
Pippen dunked on Ewing, pushed him down, and then basically went to the bathroom
Meanwhile, Blake didn’t even move Perkins. Granted, Perkins ways more than Ewing, but so does Blake over Pippen.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
lol, "weighs more" not "ways more"
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Fair enough; however:
What do the two dunks shown where the defender falls on the floor have in common? Both were on a fast-break and both feel because there was some extraneous motion (whether it was a knee kick or a thrust of the hands) that had little to do with the dunk.
As I said earlier, it’s all a matter of difference in taste and opinion. I’m not one to overreact to recent players (if I don’t say so myself) and lose sight of their context in history; yet I still feel that Griffin’s dunk was better than the Pippen one and will stand as a top-15 (possibly top-10) dunk of all-time.
To each his own
But to me a vicious, posterizing dunk of this type has to embarrass the guy getting dunked on. Like in a hip-hop battle, it’s not about who has the best rhyme scheme or whatever, it’s about belittling your opponent, taking him down a notch, making him feel like less of a man. It’s not about lyrical technique. IMO, you’re looking at the dunking equivalent of lyrical technique whereas I’m looking at which dunk most disrespected the guy getting dunked on. Perkins didn’t even look shook or anything — he’s always has that intense look on his face. And he didn’t even budge an inch. The Pippen dunk took Ewing’s manhood. You can tell because Pippen did a spread eagle on top of Ewing and Ewing took offense. Perkins didn’t even look offended.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
See, that's the thing.
For me, it was so offensive that Perkins couldn’t even find it in himself to appear offended.
(I’ve successfully made an illogical claim and dispelled any chance you have of refuting it.)
it's imposssible to judge right now
i personally don’t think so, but you might end up being right. it’s just with the capability of twitter to blow everything up immediately, we’re gonna have to wait to see if this dunk stands the test of time.
by sheepareevil on Jan 31, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Coincidentally, our two biggest trade assets are currently shelved...
Estimated date of return to the Nets: five minutes after any/all trades take place.
LOL @ MarShon getting 10 assists
kid can score but he’s not exactly a playmaker
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When's MarShon coming back?
is it really late february?
is a broken toe really a reason to rest or are the nets just hiding marshon?
could it be that the nets are just saying he has a broken toe and in reality his achilles is more serious than we thought?
excuse my bad english please
by -Seiti- on Jan 31, 2012 1:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
good point
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by D Will to Succeed on Jan 31, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
im glad MarShon is being shut down
He was getting a lot of attention around the league and I don’t want him traded. Id give up Bojan before MarShon
ORL will take MarShon on a broken toe before Bojan Bodanobodyknowsmynamevic
Marshon VS Iman: Bring the rivalry on my nuiikkkass!!!
This injury doesnt change anything. Everyone saw what he can become down the road.
Its what Orlando wants. Lets just hope they take one of them and not both.
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by D Will to Succeed on Jan 31, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
i know
Hopefully Houston makes the playoffs and we can trade that pick for Mayo
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 31, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
It's the opposite effect.
Shutting him down now when his trade value is at his highest.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Again wouldnt change anything, unless its career ending.
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by D Will to Succeed on Jan 31, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
He could tear his ACL today, I still make the trade for him
Just less to be given up.
by ZR on Jan 31, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
really?
take away his athleticism and he isn’t half the player he is
ACL surgeries are not what they used to be...much much easier to recover
If it means getting Howard at a slight discount, done and done.
by ZR on Jan 31, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
D12
without atleticism is not even an above average player. He can’t shoot, no post up game. I’d pass on him now if i had to pay that much to get him.
If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.
Well, no way they hold out MarShon for two weeks unless he's a main piece in
a discussed deal. Broken little toe: you wrap it up and play on. Glad to hear Lopez is running. Looks like the plan is to bring them both back mid to late Feb, play them a couple of weeks, and then pass them over to Orlando?
Dog is hilarious
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by D Will to Succeed on Jan 31, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Avery up next
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by D Will to Succeed on Jan 31, 2012 2:04 PM EST reply actions
This ESPN articel drives me nuts
The disrespect for our team at BSPN is staggering.
1.There is not 1 mention of the Nets in the whole article though we are his #1 choice.
2. One of the writers is a total moron.
Danny Nowell, Magic Basketball: Dwight is genuinely conflicted about whether he wants to leave, but I think this “prettiest girl at the prom” routine leaves the Magic little choice but to deal him. None of the rumored deals, without adding a third team, include the youth I’d like to see the Magic get, but they may be forced to take what they can.
So apparently Brook and Brooks are not good enough youth. Ok. Everyone is entitled to his opinion. But then he goes on to say in the same article.
Holiday and Turner is a steep price, but this is fun both ways.
Sooooooo, Holiday and Turner are MUCH better comb than Brook and Brooks apparently.
I feel like i’m taking crazy pills. Do these guys even watch Basketball?
by tategeorge on Jan 31, 2012 2:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
we dont exist
Its gonna be funny how they will be forced to talk about us soon..i really cant wait.
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 31, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
haha i would personally hunt down Otis
if he made a deal for Holiday and Turner over the Brooks brothers. i know we as fans aren’t that disillusioned
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 31, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Holiday and Turner
Two guards for the best big in the game?
If you look at Jameer’s stats, Jrue is a slightly better version. Good scorer, can’t pass worth a damn.
Turner has a nice shot and suspect handles. Come on, now.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 31, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
do either of them even start?
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Don't get me wrong, Jrue is a solid little player
But career 5.2 assists per game? C’mon son.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 31, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
picks, picks, and more picks....
…first off…Jrue is still developing. Once he hits his ceiling…he should be averaging 8 assists a game.
Secondly, the magic will be better served to get as many picks as possible. It just makes sense….so in this aspect…Nets hold the cards.
I hope they do that trade to be honest...
…means Dwight will sign in the summer and open up BK, that’s for sure.
If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.
Nets have better attendance than Philly, why the heck wouyld even consider that
and, is Otis really that dumb? These frickin’ writers are gonna eat some serious crow!
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/PERDiem-120131/nba-time-play-let-make-deal
John Hollinger says we have now the best package thanks to Marshon.
He also talks about Jackson coming to the Nets!
Stephen Jackson part
Stephen Jackson to New Jersey (Proposed trade)
Jackson got a DNP on Monday night and the Bucks seemed perfectly fine without him, as wings Carlos Delfino, Shaun Livingston and Mike Dunleavy are of roughly comparable quality to Jackson. The problem is that he has a terrible contract, which means he can only be traded for another equally terrible contract.
However, it appears there are several different workable combinations with New Jersey — which is convenient given that Jackson and Dwight Howard have talked of wanting to play with each other. Even without Howard, the Nets have a glaring hole on the wings now that MarShon Brooks is out with a toe injury, and Jackson could help fill it.
Moreover, all these deals can be done now, with no March 1 limitations on the key players. The crux of the deal would be trading Jackson for Jordan Farmar and Johan Petro, all of whom have two years left on their deals and at roughly equal money.
Farmar has gone gangbusters of late but is difficult to use with Deron Williams and Sundiata Gaines, which is where part 2 of my deal comes in — Milwaukee sends back the bigger Beno Udrih and Jon Brockman, and the Bucks get Anthony Morrow and Damion James. James is out for the season and has an expiring contract; Morrow gives Milwaukee another deep shooter to round out the wing rotation. Udrih, meanwhile, is more easily used in two-guard sets with Williams. As for Brockman, he fills the frontcourt void that Petro’s absence creates.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Dwight Howard to the Nets
Unless the Lakers are willing to do a Andrew Bynum-Pau Gasol combo, this has become the best deal on the board. I say “become” because this wasn’t the case a couple of months ago. However, MarShon Brooks’ emergence has given the Nets another tantalizing piece to put into a Howard deal. He is out with a broken toe but that shouldn’t bother the Magic, who would be making this deal for the long term.
Because of Kris Humphries’ involvement it couldn’t be consummated until March 1 and can’t be done on the Trade Machine, but the deal is Dwight Howard, Chris Duhon and Hedo Turkoglu to New Jersey for Brooks, Humphries, Brook Lopez and Mehmet Okur. The Nets could actually get a $3.1 million trade exception for Lopez as well, while the Magic would get one worth $3.2 million for Duhon.
In addition, New Jersey can include four first-round picks: Its own picks in 2012, 2014 and 2016, and a pick owed to it by Houston from the Terrence Williams trade. It’s the best way to get Orlando out of its salary-cap mess and give it the pieces to rebuild, and obviously it puts New Jersey in great shape with a Howard-Williams core.
???
humphries too??? no way! keep him….really not a fan of duhon either
by newarknjnets on Jan 31, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
this
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 31, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Humphries can veto. And probably would. He’ll like to play with Deron and Dwight.
"Beware the Ides of March."
Where did you se he had a veto, isn’t it just a rumor? Hollinger doesn’t talk about that. Prokho wouldn’t mind giving him 10 million under the table just for him to go.
he can block any trade just like devean George did in the original Kidd to Dallas trade
by KillaHoose on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Net Income has been talking about it all off season
He can veto a trade.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 31, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Whaaaaaaaaaaat?
Lopez
Marshon
Hump
Okur (whatever, honestly)
and…
FOUR 1st round picks? Good GOD
by Anthony Perez on Jan 31, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I would. For Dwight Howard I wuld give up anybody but D-WIll. But you guys are right we’ve won lots of game with those players the past 3 seasons….
Forget the players, that's too many picks. They are losing leverage.
Hump can always come back if he wants to be here. But idoubt he would be included – not founded on anything, just a hunch.
We would be getting Dwight
and thus keeping Deron, but you dont want that bc were giving up late first rounders and expiring contracts? C’mon guys.
Deron will leave if we dont get Dwight.
by Clayton Balch on Jan 31, 2012 2:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don't think he will command that much
This is going to be a multi-team deal. The original offer was as well. That’s BK’s specialty. I don’t know why people keep thinking it’s going to be Nets and Orlando straight up.
by ZR on Jan 31, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'll do almost anything to get Howard
But even that is way too much for me.
by ZR on Jan 31, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Lol it's Dwight Howard
there is no such thing as “too much”. If the Nets gave up four picks for like Carmelo, I could see why people would complain. But, it’s Dwight Howard.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 31, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Do people realize that if we dont get Dwight
Deron is leaving. So you guys wouldnt give up
Lopez
Brooks
Hump
Okur
4 1sts
For Dwight, Deron, and a starting SF? Lets be serious.
by Clayton Balch on Jan 31, 2012 2:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I dont think Deron is leaving
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So he would look at our situation
and the Mavs situation this off season and choose us.
Ok.
by Clayton Balch on Jan 31, 2012 2:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I disagree completely.
by Clayton Balch on Jan 31, 2012 2:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah
I know. So does 90% of the ppl here
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As do I. Still too many variables to know.
We have some talent and a lot of cap space. Depends where Dwight is traded too – if he resigns, if he comes as FA, stays in Orlando – what other FA’s can we go after if he’s not available to us……
Look at the Knicks
after they gutted they’re team…I don’t think the Nets have to pay that much when it comes down to it, especially if D12 says Nets only.
If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.
All those players AND 4 first-round picks?
That’s a lot. Has any one player been traded for that much in the past?
by ZR on Jan 31, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Hollinger figures Dwight is a lot more valuable than Deron Williams
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
I couldn’t even read that seriously when I saw him bring up 4 picks in addition to 4 players.
by JimmyLips on Jan 31, 2012 4:11 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Stephen Jackson to New Jersey (Proposed trade)
Jackson got a DNP on Monday night and the Bucks seemed perfectly fine without him, as wings Carlos Delfino, Shaun Livingston and Mike Dunleavy are of roughly comparable quality to Jackson. The problem is that he has a terrible contract, which means he can only be traded for another equally terrible contract.
However, it appears there are several different workable combinations with New Jersey — which is convenient given that Jackson and Dwight Howard have talked of wanting to play with each other. Even without Howard, the Nets have a glaring hole on the wings now that MarShon Brooks is out with a toe injury, and Jackson could help fill it.
Moreover, all these deals can be done now, with no March 1 limitations on the key players. The crux of the deal would be trading Jackson for Jordan Farmar and Johan Petro, all of whom have two years left on their deals and at roughly equal money.
Farmar has gone gangbusters of late but is difficult to use with Deron Williams and Sundiata Gaines, which is where part 2 of my deal comes in — Milwaukee sends back the bigger Beno Udrih and Jon Brockman, and the Bucks get Anthony Morrow and Damion James. James is out for the season and has an expiring contract; Morrow gives Milwaukee another deep shooter to round out the wing rotation. Udrih, meanwhile, is more easily used in two-guard sets with Williams. As for Brockman, he fills the frontcourt void that Petro’s absence creates.
agreed
Nets shouldn’t have to take back Udrih’s salary nor deal Morrow. If Farmar’s in a deal, they could just call up Curry from the Armor, or find a serviceable guard elsewhere.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 31, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
No Morrow.
You wanna give Farmar and Petro for Jax, I can live with that, maybe we get another 2-3 good years out of him playing with Deron and Dwight.
I’d rather try go get a guy like CJ Miles, an ex teammate of Deron’s, know’s him well, and seems to have found his niche coming off the bench for Utah.
where is this from?
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by D Will to Succeed on Jan 31, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Lopez returns soon
and make sure your fully healthy. Don’t want you injured again
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by netsareboss on Jan 31, 2012 2:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Glad to have you back MIKE.
Try not to get ousted again, okay? lol
Aren't you a little early...?
Lol, I thought you weren’t suppose to come out of hibernation until February 2 ???
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Team needs me...
We only have ten…By the way I was on the Indy Cornrows SB@Nation website and they actually think they are going to beat us tonight….SMH.
Vogel may need to get creative to motivate his players to not sleep on the New Jersey Nets tonight.
Lol
who do they think we are, the Bobcats?
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Actually, I think it's part three
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
"Die Hard: With A Vengeance"
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
Has this been posted?
andy_vasquez Andy Vasquez
Brook Lopez joked that he walked around Indy last night and told everyone he was Tom Brady. Couldn’t understand why nobody believed him.
LMAO! oh Lopez
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Twins separated at birth.
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
I forgot about Robin the other brother.
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
MarShon, it was nice while it lasted. Hump, you deserve all your future success. Brook, play closer to the rim!
A Dwight Howard to the Nets trade is a trade for the future, not just for a championship run in 2012, but a run in 2013, 2014, 2015.
Trade whoever you need to get him. Get the Deron Williams/Dwight Howard core and build from there.
The core of the Nets by the end of trade deadline would be Deron Williams, Stephen Jackson, DeShawn Stevenson, Nobody Jones and Dwight Howard
I'm in the "get Howard at all costs" camp, but that would put the Nets in a bad spot.
They’d be tied down with Turkoglu and Jackson’s contract for the 2013 season. I’m not sure if a MLE and a LLE could provide the Nets with the players they need to compete.
dude
Nobody Jones is filthy
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
Just a sign of what being on the Nets does to players:
I know a lot of people here dislike Bill Simmons — I believe it’s because he likes to make fun of the Nets — but Deron Williams went from a superstar to merely an “all-star.”
LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose, Dwyane Wade, Dwight Howard, Dirk Nowitzki, Kobe Bryant (superstars); Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Love, LaMarcus Aldridge (franchise guys); Rajon Rondo, Blake Griffin, Steve Nash, Manu Ginobili (entertaining All-Stars); Tony Parker, Deron Williams, Paul Pierce, Rudy Gay, Chris Bosh, Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol, Pau Gasol, Amar’e Stoudemire, Andrew Bynum (All-Stars)
Read more: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7519970/time-change
I think Williams is (or has been) slightly overrated, but to put him in a group with Tony Parker, Marc Gasol and Rudy Gay? Wow.
Definite slight to D-Will but he got a ton of bad press for his early start. He’s definitely picked it up since but a guy like Simmons who is paid to watch the good teams play won’t notice it for at least a few weeks.
by mytoemytoe on Jan 31, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's just the opinion of one guy
We all know what Deron is capable of, no big deal.
by ZR on Jan 31, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
i dislike Bill Simmons
because he’s a complete moron
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 31, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Simmons is very full of himself.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 31, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
anyone see this? sorry if posted
A source close to the negotiations says Howard’s representatives warned the Lakers that Howard would opt out of his contract and test the free-agent market next summer — which has the Lakers’ brass understandably nervous.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7407044/playing-dwight-howard-scenarios
by D12"Nets" on Jan 31, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
For the Nets, it's Dwight or Bust
For Dwight Howard, it’s Nets or Bust
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
by BigTom on Jan 31, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
That's huge if true
This quote needs a thread
by dwill8brooklynbound on Jan 31, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Not surprised by this honestly figured as much
Goes with what Buss said last year.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
should we pull the trigger on Agent Zero?
We need all the help NOW! We can use Arenas blazing scoring touch on the perimeter-not sure about his defense.
by SCALABRINGIT on Jan 31, 2012 3:01 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I'm a bit surprised that no one even gave him a shot yet
but I suppose there is a reason. I’d be indifferent as long as we DON’T sign him multi-year.
and to team him with Dwight again
since Dwight apparently wanted to keep him on the Magic
He probably told LA NO
until the Dwight thing is resolved he isnt committing to any team.
That is why they are now rumored trying to trade for Sessons.
The DONT Trade MarShon Brooks Movement!!!!!!!
I think we keep Hump and Morrow when we get Dwight...
Deron, Morrow, Turk, Hump, Dwight….
Great starting five and I think we sign Andrei next year for the MLE.
Would obviously like to keep Brooks or 2012 #1 pick but may not be possible.
by rundmc00 on Jan 31, 2012 3:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Then Sign VC
so he can get his ring
by Scooby803 on Jan 31, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Darren Collison and George Hill for D-Will?
Some clown on BSPN.com that I’ve never heard of before named Austin Link just suggested that, after the Nets “realize” that D-12 and DWill is leaving, we should trade D-Will to Indy for Darren Collison and George Hill. Why in the world would we do that? I’d rather lose D-Will for nothing than get rid of him in a distressed sale.
Where does BSPN find these jokers?
The trade: Darren Collison and George Hill to New Jersey for Deron Williams
Collison and Hill are both quality young players, something New Jersey is sorely lacking. Once the Nets realize Dwight Howard isn’t coming — and, as a result, Williams is leaving — they’ll need to get something for their star point guard. The Pacers would love Williams to stay for more than his one remaining contract year, but even if he leaves it still adds cap room for the team to pursue Indiana native Eric Gordon. As an added bonus, the Trade Machine says this deal will result in more wins for both teams.
if i knew dwill was leaving 110% sure I would not mind trading with Indy,
But We’d want more than that. Paul George + Collison + picks
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I wouldn't hate this
would certainly fill in some spots for us, the biggest of which would be the PG.
by sheepareevil on Jan 31, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Quality young players -
Brook, Brooks, Two first rounders in deep draft if Rockets make playoffs.
No problems here, Sahib.
by cprash on Jan 31, 2012 3:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Guys its a good deal
The trade machine says so
by fumblesnout on Jan 31, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
if D-Will decides to leave
then he’ll be dictating where he goes, just like Dwight is doing. And I don’t see Indy in that picture.
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no bogut no noah
maybe Horford or Marc Gasol but thats it Lopez is defintely top 5
haha strange I was thinking
I would take Noah but not Bogut. I feel the intangible things are often the most valuable things. Not just in basketball.
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 31, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
If it has to be a trade or whatever (which I don't want, but whatever)
I was hoping Brook, MarShon, Nets’ own pick + Houston pick would be enough, but perhaps not. This could be really, really costly. Hope Dwight can hang on till next Summer.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Were going to get bashed in one way or another.
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by D Will to Succeed on Jan 31, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
I def. see Barry giving it to us.
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by D Will to Succeed on Jan 31, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah Im not watching it
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
what are they saying?
If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.
There saying the Knicks and the Nets have the same record
but now they are talking the Knicks SMH
Ok so i tried my hand at the trade machine and got this
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7rcpbn3
or this one
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7xo3nul (if Magic dont trade Anderson)
or
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6w39gkm
^all are pretty similar
add maybe a few picks around, (Our 1st rounder to Orl and maybe a protected Cha pick)
Thoughts?
Why Nets: We get Dwight, obv what everyone here wants
Why Magic: They get a real PG as well as two big men to atleast fill in for Howard. In the 3rd trade the Magic also get James as well
Why Bobcats: Kemba is clearly their PG of the future so need for DJ, they get Farmar as a good backup, and Lopez to play down low as well as Ryan Anderson whose been playing really well or for the 2nd trade, Reddick who is pretty good as well.
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SMH!!!!
They will all change their stance SOON.
Once we get into brooklyn they will rush to get the scoops.
I love being the underdog only to growl in these people’s face when they want to get on the bandwagon later.
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Exactly
These “So Called” NBA analysts especially the ones from BSPN are like third world merchants.
Their stuff always seem overpriced until you decide to walk away. Then they throw you cheaper price (more BS information) just so they can keep your attention. Then you walk away again then they lower it again. Evenually their product is worth pooo ( dont want to get a warnig) they call you back and give it to you for FREE.
Good to see you back
I missed these witty pics.
The DONT Trade MarShon Brooks Movement!!!!!!!
People on this board keep saying the Brooks must go in any Dwight trade, but
why should we add any pieces to the original deal when OTIS messed up?
Brooks, expiring and draft picks should be enough for Dwight especially after OTIS and ORL made their situation worse. Why should the NETS suffer for their incompetence.
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I feel they're losing leverage by the game.
But I still think wthis will be a 3 team trade.
If straight up – Lopez, Memo, Morrow, Farmar, 2 picks
Depth
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/depth-chart/DEN/denver-nuggets
look at how deep that team is…thats without JR Smith, Chandler and K-mart….
Thats what we could be plus D-will…
Dont gut the farm for a superstar.
Can't believe I'm writing this
at this point, I wouldn’t mind trying out JR Smith and Chandler for rotaion and depth. they both would be fine playing with Deron And Dwight.
I mean I dont think the Nuggets are a finals contender right this second…but theyre basically one player away at this point…And they could contend up there with OKC for a while with this roster.. Especially with that Afflalo/Lawson/Gallo/Nene core. Who knows how good Gallo will actually be…hes still only 23.
He might make a AS reserve in next few years
Will never start over Durant and Griffin though. There’s this guy Love too.
I really believe in holding on and developing homegrown talent…and not shipping it off. Heres Hoping March 15th passes and dwights not traded…
by lezosamis on Jan 31, 2012 4:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I believe in the Nets finally being respected
Which is what will happen if we get Dwight
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all star weekend you know the focus going to be on deron and dwight and
How they play with each other and what there talking about
by Pure baller15 on Jan 31, 2012 4:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
really wouldnt give up brooks there is ways around it
I actually want to keep our two guard rotation of morrow marshon and stevenson
by Pure baller15 on Jan 31, 2012 4:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
ORL dont deserve
Brooks anyway.
Cowards.
They will come begging soon or their ego will be their demise by keeping Dwight out of spite.
The DONT Trade MarShon Brooks Movement!!!!!!!
I dont we trade
you with Petro and farmar
that would be fair value.
You are such an Allstar……… poster on the NETsdaily Blog.
The DONT Trade MarShon Brooks Movement!!!!!!!
I keep saying Orlando had their chance to surround Dwight with talent for over 7 years….Derons been here a year and we’re already in the conversation for adding another superstar piece. So I have little to no compassion for the Magic fans…the Cav fans get some compassion just because Lebron did it in such an obnoxious way. But if you want your big fish to stay you besta make sure that big fish is well fed…
really this wouold be my veryy very best offer
Without involding any other teams
Brook lopez
4 first round picks
Okur
And we take back hedo
Thats would be the best of the best for me
I dont know why everyone trying to give up everything when i whole hearted believe that for dwight its nets only
by Pure baller15 on Jan 31, 2012 4:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yes I think we only need to give them something better than what they would get for "rental"
I’m not even sure if we absolutely have to Brook to get him. But I will take added assurance.
if the rumor about dwight telling LA he's going to test free agency is true
i wouldn’t even give them that much. who’s going to offer more just for a rental?
excuse my bad english please
by -Seiti- on Jan 31, 2012 4:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
What if something like this happened?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6v2c85c
I think it's fine.
i know its a what-if question but thats just not going to happen
excuse my bad english please
by -Seiti- on Jan 31, 2012 5:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
true....because he's coming to us
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12:30 p.m. on february 23, 2011 hope was born
D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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