Broussard: Nets Still a "Promising Situation" for Howard, Williams
by Net Income on Jan 30, 2012 12:37 AM EST
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PrintThe scene in Orlando is increasingly ugly. The Magic keep finding new ways to lose. Dwight Howard calls out his teammates for their lack of effort. The GM claims Howard threw Jameer Nelson "under the bus" by comparing him unfavorably with other point guards. Fans boo the team off the court at the Amway Center after the latest loss. Howard even made a cryptic remark about the Bulls. A columnist writes the All-Star Game could look like "an extravagant dinner party hosted by a glamorous couple everyone knows is getting divorced. Kinda awkward isn't it?"
Chris Broussard was asked mid-week about the Magic's intentions. He told Mike Tam of ESPN Radio that, as of then, he expects Orlando to keep Howard through the season. He also repeats his (well-sourced) theory that if Howard doesn't come to the Nets, Deron Williams will ask out (something Billy King said last week was "wrong"). But Broussard also talks about how both want to play in Brooklyn, that it's a "promising situation" for them because of what they can do together on the court and "business opportunities"off the court.
He talks as well about the lure of the Knicks and how Howard as well as Williams would be interested in the Garden.
- NBA Today: 1/25 (Audio) - Mike Tam - ESPN Radio
- No need to wait on Dwight Howard trade if deal’s there - Brian Schmitz - Orlando Sentinel
- Howard on long-shot trade to Chicago Bulls: 'If God wanted that to happen, it will happen' - Vaughn McClure - Chicago Tribune
Well, that's the million dollar question. He still has not rescinded his trade request to the New Jersey Nets, which he issued before the season began. but Dwight historically in Orlando, at least the last several months, has been wishy washy about his future so the Magic really believe that they have a shot at keeping him.
Remember they can pay him more money than any other team and they're not sure that he will walk away from that money at the end of the day, so right now, they're really not pursuing trades, they're certainly going to keep him for the next several weeks.
The real question will be will they trade him as the March 15 deadline gets closer and right now, the feeling is
they won't, that they may very well just keep him throughout the remainder of the season and they feel good about their team. they'll see how far they can go in the playoffs. they feel like they're a championship contender right there with the rest of the top clubs in the league and they may go that route and try to convince Dwight through the remainder of the season, not just through March 15 to stay with them long-term.
How realistic is Orlando's strategy of waiting Howard out?
Look, Dwight is wishy-washy. I think he hasn't rescinded his trade request so... His first choice is to go to New Jersey, i.e., Brooklyn, next season they'll be in Brooklyn, to play with Deron Williams. A lot of great business opportunities in New York. He'd be going to a franchise that is starting all over in the biggest city in the world, so that appeals to him.
But at the same time, if Orlando were to somehow get to the Finals or win the Finals, I think that's a long shot...they feel that maybe Dwight would stay. So it's a game of chicken right now and it's a big risk if indeed they go that route because remember the last thing they want to do is lose Dwight for nothing, like they did for Shaquille O'Neal in the mid-90's, AND there's not the incentive in the new collective bargaining agreement for players to do sign-and-trade deals like they're used to be. You can't get the extra year in a sign-and-trade deal like you used to.
What's the incentive here? The Magic roster is better than the Nets roster.
If you get traded to the Nets, then he could sign an extension...they would get his Larry Bird Rights...and then he could make money with them, or more money with them. Look, if you take Dwight off Orlando's roster, they don't have a player who's an equivalent of Deron Williams. And it remains to be see how good J.J. Redick, Ryan Anderson, and those guys would be without a Dwight Howard.
You put Dwight in Jersey, there are some reservations he has about that roster because, you know, he is looking at that roster and thinking 'If I go there even with Deron, we may only be as good as we are in Orlando right now.' But there's a chance that Anthony Morrow, who's close with Dwight would play better with Dwight as a shooter off of Dwight Howard. You got Kris Humphries there. If he was to go there as a free agent, they'd still have Brook Lopez and MarShon Brooks is a young hot rookie who a lot of people are impressed with. So, you put Dwight Howard in the middle of that with a superstar point guard like Deron Williams and it's certainly a promising situation.
You had a conversation with Deron Williams. What he tell you about all of this?
Well i didn't actually speak with Deron, I spoke with sources (laughs) but they're trustworthy sources. Deron wants to stay in Jersey. I mentioned the business opportunities with Dwight and that's what Deron is looking at as well.
And Deron has recruited Dwight. During the lockout, remember, you could talk all you wanted, recruit all you wanted and he certainly used the opportunity to do that and he's told Dwight about those business opportunities. Deron enjoys the notion of being the face of the franchise. Obviously, it would be along with Dwight as if they were going to go to Brooklyn as a tandem. And he has come to love, as has his family, living in New York City. So all of that being the case, Deron's first choice is to stay in Jersey, develop a close relationship with Avery Johnson, with Billy King, the general manager there.
But look he wants to win. He's as competitive as anybody in the NBA and if they don't get Dwight Howard, then he's got to look elsewhere where he can win. And Dallas --he's a native of Dallas-- they're going to have enough cap room to sign a maximum player and actually, they're trying to clear enough cap room to offer two near-max deals...maybe not quite the maximum but near-max...and their grand plan would be to get Dwight and Deron to go there and join Dirk Nowitzki. But Deron has always had a soft spot in his heart for playing at home, which would be in Dallas. So Dallas is one of the teams that would be on his list if he leaves New Jersey. The Knicks another team because as I said he loves New York. He loves the opportunties that are there and obviously that's a team tjat if they traded Amare Stoudemire for him, you'd be there with Carmelo Anthony and Tyson Chandler. If they traded Anthony, you'd be there with Amare and Chandler. So you could go there. They need a point guard. So he would be open to that. And then the Lakers. The Lakers would be tough for him to get there but some of that would be tied to them getting Dwight as well, but Deron knows they need a point guard as well. Obviously, everybody loves L.A.
So it's interesting before the season, his list outside of the Nets was Dallas, New York and the Clippers. I'm sorry, Dallas and the Clippers. He wasn't think as much about the Knicks. So he would certainly stay there to be in New York.
Are the Knicks in the running at all?
They're in the running in that Dwight would sign there. He would be open to playing in New York. There are only a handful of teams that he would be open to long term playing with...and the Nets, the Mavericks, the Lakers, the Clippers and the Knicks are really the only teams on that list. But the Magic are not strongly interested in Amare Stoudemire because even though Amare is from that area and he is a star player, he's 29 years old. His knees have been through many surgeries to the point where they can't even get them insured. And let's face it, he's not having a strong season. So some people, the Magic, are concerned with the long-term history. Look, including this year, he has four years, 83 million left. So they, they really want a lot more than Amare Stoudemire if they wind up having to trade Dwight Howard.
Dwight Howard to the Clippers?
It makes sense to me. It's sort of a figment of my imagination.
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Keep getting blown out Magic
Dwight will fall into our hands
No, I rather the Magic do well in regular season, then get swept by Chicago/Miami in playoffs.
This way we get Howard for nothing.
Official Member of DO NOT TRADE MARSHON Society!
To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
by 3ptChucker on Jan 30, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Magic would be smart to trade him in March
Do everything they can to keep him, then let him go for at least something. It would be disastrous if he left for nothing.
by ZR on Jan 30, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
Gotta watch him even closer
Mavs were trying to sign Gortat and had him on paper for almost a week, the Mavs trading the magic a player to make more room and the magic (last second) matched the offer losing nothing.
by Zartan on Jan 30, 2012 10:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's amazing to me
How the Knicks become a possible destination for every player.
by djeterfan on Jan 30, 2012 12:45 AM EST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
yea it is.
when u got analysts like stephen a smith n chris broussard giving a ton of hype to the knicks.
All he wrote was that he'd be open to signing there
Doesn’t mean he’ll get there. I guarantee almost every player in the NBA is open to signing with the Knicks.
by ZR on Jan 30, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
They don't call it da Mecca for nothing
Religious blindness and ignorance in this case over faith. Deron Williams and Dwight Howard will play in the Garden 41 times if Mihkail gets sick of Dolan and just buys it outright and kicks the Knicks up-state somewhere to Syracuse or something. The Nets could then flip a coin and decide which of the arenas to play at.
It really is bad when a writer is so out of touch that above scenario has more of a chance of happening. The Knicks are capped out and will not be able to move at least 2 of these contracts and Anthony is not helping his value now either.
Happy to see Billy King graduated in an accelerated "how to make a trade" class in just one night :)
Does Broussard have any recent direct statements from DWill and Howard?
And has he heard anything NEW, like since DWill started to “Loving it” and the Dwight “nightmare” hit full speed?
I can’t imagine ORL wanting to go through this for more than 6 weeks
I can’t imagine DH not wanting to get his extra 30 million
Broussard is wrong – he will be traded, but the health of Brook Lopez will be a big factor.
Anyone see that Dwight quote on D.Rose and bulls?
by djeterfan on Jan 30, 2012 12:46 AM EST via Android app reply actions
he's just flattering them
he doesn’t want to go to the Bulls.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 30, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
What incentive is there for the Magic or Dwight to go there?
Dwight wants to be the face of the franchise. He’s the better player than D-Rose, but the face of the franchise will always remain Derrick Rose.
Orlando isn’t going to want the likes of Boozer or Deng on their team as they are rebuilding. Makes little sense for them.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 30, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
I think Dwight will be here eventually. It makes the most sense.
NY and LA are always included in the picture cause when you mention them, your story gets sent round and round. Chris Broussard isn’t stupid, although he may seem that way with his infinite “sources”
So we now have confirmed that DWill ISN'T Broussard's source, nor does it sound like his agent:
Well i didn’t actually speak with Deron, I spoke with sources (laughs) but they’re trustworthy sources. Deron wants to stay in Jersey. I mentioned the business opportunities with Dwight and that’s what Deron is looking at as well.
listen to it
there is some sarcasm. My impression was he did speak with Williams.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 30, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Broussard:
Well i didn’t actually speak with Deron
Net Income:
My impression was (Broussard) did speak with Williams.
Realize Net Income that you are calling Broussard a liar.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
He can't admit that he spoke with DWill (confidentiality).
However, with Broussard he is 70% embellishment.
I believe the stuff about DWill now liking NYC. That is newsworthy and good news for Nets.
Also, he has softened his stance that DWill would be gone if Nets didn’t get Howard.
I don’t believe that DWill directly told Broussard that he is gone, if Howard didn’t come. DWill is smarter than to make that public by directly talking with Broussard.
Also Bondy didn’t think he got his info (about leaving) from DWill.
what baloney
Broussard is 70% embellishment, why not 77.3 or 49.7?
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
FWIW
I think Broussard spoke with Deron’s agent.
However, if Broussard did speak with Deron and then when got caught and to cover it up he said:
Well i didn’t actually speak with Deron
then the guy is a complete slimeball if he lied through his teeth to protect his transparent reporting.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
I have a very hard time believing they'll keep him past the deadline
I imagine DeVos doesn’t want this going on with his team. The past few games have been bad, Dwight has thrown the entire team under the bus, his teammates are affected,the locker room isn’t exactly the happiest place on Earth, the situation is just messy. Even if they are in playoff contention, it’s not fair to the fans, the Magic, and most important Dwight to keep him in Orlando.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 30, 2012 12:50 AM EST reply actions
Amare
Went to the only team that offered him max. If we had thrown him max money, I think Melo would happily be here.
by djeterfan on Jan 30, 2012 12:54 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
and Melo went because of Amare, and Tyson went because of the both of them...I think this market bs is overhyped...players want to go to good teams
by RandyOreens on Jan 30, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
and the NETS have ugly jerseys....can't wait for them to change.
by mzBKnets on Jan 30, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I'd reck this if it wasn't mobile.
Jerseys are out of the loop/ consistent with all the loading team jerseys. You can’t give a pinto and another Ferrari and expect them to have the same swagger.
Ok if I’m loopy!
by Zartan on Jan 30, 2012 10:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rec'd it for you
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Market plays a factor
But its a bit overrated.
by djeterfan on Jan 30, 2012 12:59 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
the Knicks are under .500 with him there and his previous team is a top team in the West this year.
He’s a bust.
That's not fair to him
besides the fact that they lack a true point and D’Antoni refuses to instill defense, the guy’s been injured a lot. He’s still a really good player
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 30, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
It’s all his (Melo’s) fault though. He wanted his extension money at whatever cost, and now he is reaping the “benefits” or lack of for that matter.
And I'd argue that Melo's injuries are, to a large extent, caused by him
His forced trade gutted the team → leading to no depth on the Knicks -→ now, the breakdown of the D’Antoni system leads to little secondary scoring —→ more Melo minutes, more ballhandling, leading to tougher and more aggressive defending
It’s very strange to remember how much I desperately wanted that Melo trade to go through for the Nets last year, and how crushed I was before the DWill miracle. Just wow.
The offense is broke
they ran off all of the guys that played well within their system. Now with the stars ailing there is nothing to hold them up.
Happy to see Billy King graduated in an accelerated "how to make a trade" class in just one night :)
yeah george karl is the man
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 30, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with you guys. I'm just pointing out that Melo isn't worth the hype. And he often does not really help his teams.
With time, I think people will see that he’s a very talented player who kills teams over time.
right
I don’t remember specifics, but it seemed after Jim Dolan really took charge (1999ish?), the mismanagement began, and you over-the-hill retreads (Penny Hardaway, TMac, etc.) but I think most of the silliness was from resignings (the Allan Houston deal) and the silly trades. Ahh, the trades.
As the Knicks slid into pathetic-ness, I think folks that did sign did NOT think they could win, that the team was managed well, that that they were building a resume to be marketed—they mostly thought they’d get paid and they’d have the ‘NY’ bball experience. The NY bball experience should be becoming the toast of the town and leading a team to the playoffs…but in the Knicks case, it’s more like—it’s a crude analogy, but I’ll go there anyway—dating someone of a different race or ethnicity, just to say you had the experience of dating someone like that. Played in NY? Check. And I got paid.
What if we have won the lottery last summer?
Irving looks like a upcoming super star.
Lopez / Favors
Humphries / Kanter
Stevenson
Brooks / Morrow
Irving
is this team better?
not possible
if the nets had gotten irving with the number 1 pick they would not have also had the Kanter pick. they jazz got Kanter because the nets pick got them the number 3 slot.
Also, if the nets got irving with the first pick, they might not have gotten Brooks and instead looked to get a post player instead of a guard
we took a gamble.
this is what we have now. we did give up alot for this gamble. the possibility of gettin dwill n d12 together in brooklyn is hard to pass up. we did give up favors and kanter both great players with ton of upside and we would have still had marshon to.
lopez favors kanter brooks harris is not better than the possibility of having dwill d12 brooks n lopez.
how would we win the lottery if we traded the pick away
by i says on Jan 30, 2012 7:28 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Schmitz article basically sums it up
although I think they’d deal him after the All Star game.
We'll Be Fine.
Only thing that needs to be read..forgot the rest..
His first choice is to go to New Jersey, i.e., Brooklyn, next season they’ll be in Brooklyn, to play with Deron Williams
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 30, 2012 1:24 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Amen.
But guys, don’t be so depressed if he doesn’t come here. It won’t be the end of the nets.
by mzBKnets on Jan 30, 2012 1:25 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ric bucher said the same thing this morning on ESPN
http://worldaroundsports.wordpress.com/
by netsfan1591 on Jan 30, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
i love when people accuse broussard of hating on the nets
You put Dwight in Jersey, there are some reservations he has about that roster because, you know, he is looking at that roster and thinking ‘If I go there even with Deron, we may only be as good as we are in Orlando right now.’ But there’s a chance that Anthony Morrow, who’s close with Dwight would play better with Dwight as a shooter off of Dwight Howard. You got Kris Humphries there. If he was to go there as a free agent, they’d still have Brook Lopez and MarShon Brooks is a young hot rookie who a lot of people are impressed with. So, you put Dwight Howard in the middle of that with a superstar point guard like Deron Williams and it’s certainly a promising situation.
by William_H_HOLLA on Jan 30, 2012 1:49 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
thats my dream
D Will
SWag
Crush
B LO
D12
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 30, 2012 6:33 AM EST up reply actions
ummm
But there’s a chance that Anthony Morrow, who’s close with Dwight would play better with Dwight as a shooter off of Dwight Howard
Maybe there’s a chance that the team was built around a top 5 center, and when you remove him from the equation everyone suffers. Can’t wait til Brook is back
I don't understand how Orlando or anyone could ever think that Orlando is gonna make any noise whatsoever in the playoffs
Why do people think they’re legitimate title contenders? They’ve proven to be good at three things: Beating bad teams, losing leads, and getting blown out.
A lot of interesting stuff in this Broussard transcript
Can’t see why he still threw in the ridiculous notion of a DWill/Amare trade. I haven’t seen enough commentators blasting that out of the water. Just irresponsible reporting.
should we trade for
Melo, or Amare’s uninsurable knees? Which one makes us better as a feeder squad/trash dump for the Knicks?
www.twitter.com/robertjamis
Who's the Net at the FT line?
Is he guarding Hump?
LOL Broussard
Read his article about Dwight Howard on ESPN Insider this afternoon.
“If Deron doesn’t stay with the Nets, they should TRAID HIM TO THE KNICKS FOR MELO!!!” NOT A WINNER BUT A SUPERSTAR!!!! SUPERSTARZZZZZZ!!!!! 2009 Nuggets!!!"
One of the more hilarious pieces of crap I’ve seen to date, in which Broussard fails to acknowledge how crestfallen Melo is, how much better the Nuggets are without him, and how his style of play is antithetical to winning.
www.twitter.com/robertjamis
by robertjamis on Jan 30, 2012 2:23 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
That's just his opinion
He’s allowed to write what he wants, regardless of how unrealistic it is.
by ZR on Jan 30, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Make this happen (lol at my crappy "Nets" Jersey)
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
by nets14 on Jan 30, 2012 2:57 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
they jersey could say Poop Stains for all i care
as long as Deron and Dwight are both playing for the Poop Stains (based out of Brooklyn)
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 30, 2012 2:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I love the knicks lore.
They always have it even the franchise has been a joke for 10+ years. They go from one screw up to another but I guess having a lot of fans means bad jounalists well lie to retain audience. Remember Lebron also wanted to play in the DAH GAHDEN.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Same story as before.
It’s the Lakers or the Nets. Let the best package win.
lol
Now nets fans will suddenly love Brousard and call him a credible source
by i says on Jan 30, 2012 7:22 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Mrs. Beasley's Son?
If we can’t get Dwight, then I want to take MB from the TWolves. I can’t believe that DJAMES was all that Billy KIng had for a 3 this season. AND DJAMES never plays in a NETS uniform again. But Larry Owens hit a jump shot last night. Maybe this will break the ice for him. He was a decent player in the D-League, but has been quite shy so far with the big club. We need something from the 3, and Deshawn has nothing on the offensive end. Also The Humph continues to show his inability to hit the easy shots that DWill gets him. He should have been in the gym during the lockout, instead of being on TV, with that “no talent, fat ass.”
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
Beasley is not someone you want
He’ll hurt you more than help you with his non-existent defense and penchant for contested long two point jump shots.
And I don’t see how anyone can complain about Hump’s season so far, he’s been a top 3 player on the team this season and his rebounding and inside presence is the only thing keeping the Nets from being completely pathetic inside all year
Hopefully
Dwight and Deron have learned from MIA and NYK and don’t take max deals so the Nets can afford to put a real team around them.
I still believe DWill would stay if Dwight goes elsewhere. King said so and I don’t think he would give up money just to play with an old Dallas team
And Deron has recruited Dwight. During the lockout, remember, you could talk all you wanted, recruit all you wanted and he certainly used the opportunity to do that and he’s told Dwight about those business opportunities. Deron enjoys the notion of being the face of the franchise. Obviously, it would be along with Dwight as if they were going to go to Brooklyn as a tandem. And he has come to love, as has his family, living in New York City. So all of that being the case, Deron’s first choice is to stay in Jersey, develop a close relationship with Avery Johnson, with Billy King, the general manager there.
Thats the fact Brussard cant change, and rest of the NBA hating on
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 30, 2012 7:42 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
As Net Income pointed out, Deron is still likely Broussard's source...
which means Deron likely told him he recruited Dwight HARD during the lockout… Makes sense.. which is why Dwight walked into training camp with his trade request.
Likely the teams were Nets and Mavs (to play with Deron)
and
lakers (because Dwight is still intrigued by Hollywood)
Dwight and Deron probably had an understanding.. lets play in Brooklyn together.. BUT if you get traded to Dallas, we’ll figure out a way to team up there…
I think Dwight is also trying to force a trade
Ripping his teammates was somewhat of a joke.. Yes his team got embarrassed several games in a row… but.. everyone in that lockerroom knows he wants out… who is he to call them out … likely he is intentionally creating further rifts in the lockerroom to force a deal.
Sekou Smith
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/01/30/no-magic-way-out-in-orlando/
Foolish me, I thought cooler heads might prevail and that they’d be able to salvage a little something in Orlando this season.
They’re all grown ups, right? They’ve learned from the mistakes of others, seen how dangerous that road to breakup can be. No one wants this to be more painful than it has to be. So I assumed that no one would let this situation deteriorate into some sort of mess.
Again, I was wrong. (I know, plenty of you tried to warn me last week. Silly me.)
There is no Magic way out for the Magic and their Dwight Howard dilemma. I just don’t see it right now on the heels of the Magic losing four of five games and coming apart in the process.
Everyone kept raising the point about that 11-4 record and how the Magic were “legit” without considering who they were beating. Now the truth is coming out and everyone’s delusions can stop
by muwu on Jan 30, 2012 8:22 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
woj's opinions
are faulty at best, realistically weak, and at worst would be in the lower third of opinions on this site.
imagine something extremely witty here
As always, Hollingers rankings are a heat check
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Cavs fan, on another forum, came up with this as an alternate to my 3 team trade
interesting… Cavs would take Hedo…
Cavs Receive- Brook Lopez, Marshon Brooks, Hedo Turkoglu
Magic Receive- Sacramento 2012 #1 pick (via Cavs), Nets 2012 #1 pick, Houston 2012 1st(via nets),Miami 2015 #1(via Cleveland) Nets 2016 #1, Mehmet Okur, Antawn Jamison
Nets Receive- Dwight Howard, Omri Cassipi, Luke Harangody, Orlando 2014 2nd round pick (via Cavs)
I guess the Cavs have a highly protected SAC #1 pick.. but likely that never materializes… I think Orlando would need Cavs’s #1 pick
If the Cavs did that,, they would have:
pg- kyrie
sg- MarShon
sf- hedo
pf- varejao
c- Lopez
That would be a really solid team
true.. depends on what they want
that would be a potential windfall for them though… 5 #1 picks and they lose hedo’s contract…
Plus 2 of the picks would be in this draft.. plus theirs.. perfect way to press reset
They could in fact have 4 first rounders this year! (Theirs, Houston’s, Cavs, and ours).. that may be hard to pass up.
But yeah, if they want a competitive team, this would not work!
WOuld be intriguing though.. Cavs get a lot better.. we get a lot better (and still have cap flexibility)… Magic if they play it right also cabn do well
Great for the Nets and Cavs but won't do it for the Magic
If the Cavs’ Kings pick is ‘highly protected’, the Magic may not even get it this year. The Cavs should at least send their in their own pick unprotected — after all they’re getting Lopez, Marshon(!) and a usable Hedo just for giving up Jamison, Casspi and what look like late picks. Even if they do so, it might still not be enough. We do get Dwight but the Cavs also make out like bandits. Not so much for Orlando.
This is worse for the Magic than our supposed revised offer of Lopez, 2 picks this year, cap space (or Okur at this point but also losing Turkoglu) and Gerald Wallace (or if they want it for themselves, 4 more future picks).
fair would be:
cavs trade- their pick in 2012, heat pick in 2015, one extra first (either a protected Cavs pick, the protected Kings pick, or Heat 1st rounder in 2013 which they own)
now magic get 6!!!! first round picks back including a few lottery picks.. that would be dumb to pass up
you think??? 6 number one picks and cap space??
by orangeeater on Jan 30, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Or we could straight up give them picks, a legit center
and cap space.
Not all of the picks are good either.
Houston 2012 1st (Looking like this will be near the 20’s)
Miami 2015 #1 (garbage pick)
Nets 2016 #1 (With D-Will, Dwight, and the roster we build around them – monster team = trash pick)
by Anthony Perez on Jan 30, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Id want to leave if I was Dwight too
Look at all the players that have come and gone. The most important player for a center is a PG
Nelson Alston
CLee VC JRich
Hedo QRich
Gortat Bass Big Baby
This team needs a new PG not SF PF or SG. Jameer is not a pass forst PG and SVG is not a good coach
Half of this article talks about Howard going to the Knicks. What a joke
Knicks have no plausible way of getting either Dwight or DWill.
-They are capped out with players no one wants.
-They dont have any draft picks to trade.
-This was suppose to be a season where they competed at the highest level but instead they are competing with the dregs of the East just to make the playoffs.
-They show no loyalty at all. They made alot of promises to Billups and stab him in the back. Amare Stoudimire saved the franchise last offseason only to be treated like a red headed step child this year.
- They have been just as bad as the Nets, who have been missing their 2nd best player (Lopez), and are still featured on ESPN while the Nets barely get mentioned.
If you still think ESPN doesnt have an agenda to support their interests in the Knicks then you must be crazy. The emperor has no clothes and the media is in denial. Every article on ESPN makes an effort to devalue the Nets players.
You put Dwight in Jersey, there are some reservations he has about that roster because, you know, he is looking at that roster and thinking ‘If I go there even with Deron, we may only be as good as we are in Orlando right now.’
Lets compare the Nets to the Magic
DWill >>>>>>>>>> Nelson
DWill is one of the best PG in the NBA. Nelson is just slightly better then Farmar
Lopez >>>>>>>>> R Anderson
Anderson has played well this year but Lopez is an All Star talent. ESPN has tried their best to discredit Lopez as a player. The fact they can limit the rest of the countries exposure to Lopez by not broadcasting the Nets boarders on propaganda. Every article on Lopez slights him, every analyst on ESPN downplay his talent. Nets Daily know how taleneted Lopez is. Leaps and bounds better then Anderson.
Brooks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Richardson
Richardson is in the twilight of his disappointing career while Brooks is already a better player and will only get better.
Hump >>>>>>>>>>> Big Baby
Another lopsided victory for the Nets. Hump is a double double machine.
Morrow >>>>> Reddick
Morrow doesnt have a post presence like Howard to draw his guy away like Reddick does and he still has better numbers
Farmar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Duhon
Farmar would compete with Nelson to start on Orlando. He is lightyears ahead of Duhon.
Hedo >>>>>>>>> Stevenson
The only position the Magic are better then the Nets at but what isnt known is
Hedo vs Bogdanvic
Bogdanvic might be in Brooklyn next year and he has been very impressive in Europe. Hedo will be a year older next year and has been hit or miss year to year
Nets ’12 draftpick >>>>>>>>>>> Magic ’12 draftpick
By keep Howard it is almost assured that we will have a better pick. Plus we get the Rockets pick if they make the playoffs.
As you can see, and apparently the so called “experts” on ESPN cant, the Nets are a far superior location for Howard. Sorry for the longwinded response but my BS meter maxed out from this article.
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 8:53 AM EST reply actions 15 recs
Howard needs to recind trade request and say he wont resign with anyone until summer
Play out the year because any team that trades for him will lose valuable assets. Someone has to learn from the NYK
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 30, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
I think this is how most of us feel. If we wait until FA to get Howard we will have the best team in tne NBA hands down
Howard / Sheldon
Lopez / Hump?
Bogdanvic / Draft / Shawne
Swag / Morrow
DWill ? Farmar
Thats better then the Heats, Bulls, Lakers, OKC, Clippers.
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
I'd rather do a trade of
Lopez, Okur, Humphries, Morrow and two first rounders for Dwight/Hedo and have the thing be over with. If this thing goes to free agency it could end terribly for the Nets.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
i think so too
Add a couple of cheap vets and that’s a dangerous team. Maybe Phil Jackson comes in to coach!
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 30, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Unless, Howard and/or DWill takes less money, you need to dump more than just Petro
You’d need to dump one of Farmar (preferably) or Morrow too.
Deron W./ Gaines
Brooks / Morrow
Shawne W./ Bogdonavic
Lopez / Jordan W.
Dwight / Shelden W.
You’d still have the 2.5 million room exception to work with to sign someone like Matt Barnes or a good backup PF/C. That team would be competing with OKC, Miami, and Chicago for the title.
Critical Success!
Unless, Howard and/or DWill takes less money, you need to dump more than just Petro
You’d need to dump one of Farmar (preferably) or Morrow too.
Deron W./ Gaines
Brooks / Morrow
Shawne W./ Bogdonavic
Lopez / Jordan W.
Dwight / Shelden W.
You’d still have the 2.5 million room exception to work with to sign someone like Matt Barnes or a good backup PF/C. That team would be competing with OKC, Miami, and Chicago for the title.
Critical Success!
We can stretch amnesty Shawne
And we won’t have D.James, so I think we only need to get rid of Farmar or Petro.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 30, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
According to this article
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/new-jersey-nets/post/_/id/3522/could-d-12d-willlopez-happen
So, the Nets would have to free up $7.1 in cap space to sign him.
Critical Success!
they can trade him anyhow..
and if we suddenly arent interested in a trade.. would put more weight into tampering charges
They have already siad that we didnt tamper
That’s ship has sailed
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
right but if they trade him to us, they essentially give up tampering claim
nobody has mentioned tampering again.. but maybe if he walks as a FA to NJ. the Magic revisit that…
We all have no idea what the charge was or how legit it was….
point being, while we may not offer a Melo type windfall, we would be silly to not trade for him now…
plus if the Magic stink and Dwight is becoming a problem in the lockerroom, of course they will trade him anywhere
nobody has mentioned tampering again.. but maybe if he walks as a FA to NJ. the Magic revisit that…
The Magic have already stated that their was no tampering.
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
Here is the link
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
from the same article
Howard, however, has not been given such permission and even a mere phone conversation with another club could qualify as tampering.
Fegan said both he and Howard have spoken by phone with the Nets but no face-to-face meeting has occurred
They're not that far off
Remember if a trade is done, Lopez will be playing with Ryan Anderson, not with Dwight.
The reported revised offer saw us swapping Farmar and Duhon.
Brooks could also go as part of a package.
Hump can veto a trade but if I’m not mistaken, we have to hope he won’t as he also has to go to make a trade work.
So our post-trade starting 5 could be:
DWill
Morrow
Hedo
Shelden
Dwight
We won’t be able to run the fast break. Our wings will still be defence-challenged. We’ll have a rook and an oaf backing up our starting bigs. We will, however, have the league’s best center-PG combo. Given how weak the East is, we could probably still fight for a late playoffs seed if we get Dwight and lose all the other pieces. Overall, still a good problem to have but does need an improved supporting cast.
I won't believe any sort of trade proposals until it gets closer to the All-Star Game
Or, obviously, Howard becomes a Net or is shipped to another team before then. I just can’t understand how the Magic could be so short-sighted and not dump him before he leaves during Free Agency.
IF Knicks are able to deal Amare for an expiring contract
then they’ll have cap room to make a run at D12 or DWill in the offseason. But not both obviously. And don’t believe the hype that there’s no team who’d take the Amare’s bad knees or uninsurable contract — there’s always a team, especially if all they need to give up is an expiring.
Nobody is taking Amare off the Knicks hands.
The team that is excepting Amare would want draft picks that the Knicks dont have. Plus his play this season has been very disappointing. The Knicks would only be able to trade him for an equally bad contract, not an expiring.
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess you meant 'accepting' vs. 'excepting'...
…it’s Monday…and typos galore happen. But the idea that there’s no team who would want Amare is a little overrated. I say this because Walsh was able to get the Knicks out of cap-hell in about two seasons when they had Jamal Crawford, ZBo, Jeffries…etc. Everyone and their mothers said no one would take these players cuz of their attitudes and contract situation. We all laughed at the idea that the Knicks would be a player during the 2010 FA period. We all laughed at their assets when they were in on Melo. But in the end, they got the last laugh.
So no , I don’t believe the Knicks won’t be able to find a partner who may like Amare a little more than we think a team might.
yeah...i know Walsh is gone...
…and he had the picks to use to help get rid of those contracts.
I'll give you that
there may be a team that will move Amare on the knicks, nobody is saying that isn’t a possibility. However I think the possibility of a team doing that in a 3 or 4 team trade for Dwight Howard is very low in terms of actually happening. It’s low already just to move an uninsured contract for 80+ million, but to also make that a succesfull dwight trade?
not impossible, but also not probable.
Why are you still trolling these boards?
Knicks lover
by Anthony Perez on Jan 30, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
ME? KNICKS LOVER?
how dare you man…lol.
I’m a nets fan trying to make sure i have everything covered in a disaster scenario should things not go our way with the D12 stuff. C’mon man. I’m not gonna sit here and act like the KNicks are a non-factor in anything when they’re our main rivals in the same division. Anything the Knicks, Celts, Sixers and Raptors do will always have some kind of direct or indirect affect on our team.
by Versifiervt on Jan 30, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Bro, every time I've seen you post
You’ve been 100% pro Knicks. Wolf in sheep’s clothing, bro.
The Knicks are a non factor. The only team that offered – or even considered offering – Amare that max contract was the Knicks. The Suns – who knew they’d be garbage without him – didn’t risk it. And now some team is going to throw an expiring at the Knicks for a player with a contract they would’ve never offered… and can’t amnesty.
If Amare is traded any time before his final year when he’ll be a nice expiring for some rebuilding team, then the earth is flat and the sun revolves around the earth.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 30, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Dood
I can come up with a scenario for any team who’s in the D12 sweepstakes just cuz I want to keep it realistic that even though I want D12 on the Nets, that it’s not anywhere close to a done deal just CUZ there’s other teams on that list. Yeah…I bring up the Knicks a lot, and it’s likely cuz of the fear I have that they’ll get someone to trump what the Nets been trying to do. I may have emotionally attached myself a little too much to the Nets…lol….that a fear of what the Knicks do actually gets into my head more than it should. But trust me. Nets through and through…not that I have to prove it to ya. But you calling me out, so I guess I should respond.
by Versifiervt on Jan 30, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Name ONE possible scenario where a team takes Amare right now
Name ONE!
There is no scenario in which any team takes on Amare’s contract with 3 1/2 years left @ $20 mil/per.
Name ONE scenario. ONE!
And you don’t just “bring up the Knicks” you talk very positively about them, their championship prospects, and how they can still make moves.
I’ve bookmarked you in my brain because of your Knicks banter. You’re a Knicks troll. You know how easy it would be for me to go onto Poasting and Toasting and be like “Oh no man, I’m a Knicks fan, I just think the Nets are legit.” Just because you say you’re a Nets fan, I don’t believe you at all.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 30, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Ummm...
…first, go back to last year’s thread after the Knicks got Melo. Look up my posts in one of those threads. I was PISSED. So pissed I didn’t return back to this site for a while, even after we got Deron.
Secondly, that report that the Sixers were inquiring about Amare tells me they’re somewhat interested in Stat. If there’s one thing the Sixers need is a veteran leader.
Lemme see…for starters….Stat and Shumpert to Philly. Chandler, Hawes, Turner to Orlando. Dwight, Turk, Duhon to Knicks.
by Versifiervt on Jan 30, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
LOL @ that Philly report
Much like Broussard said after raking in the hits over this “Orlando asking about Amare & Chandler” story, he clarified it 24 hours later that they weren’t necessarily interested, but just doing due diligence and seeing what the Knicks had available.
But not until AFTER he raked in the Knicks.
Aside from being a bad trade, it doesn’t work salary wise. Philly sends out only $8.9 million and takes back $19.7 million?
by Anthony Perez on Jan 30, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Can you blame ESPN for wanting the Knicks to be relevant?
I’m a Mets fan but what if the Yankees sucked? Do you think FOX would be ok with the Yankees not in the playoffs for a decade? New York is by FAR the largest city in the county. The greater New York area is over 60 million people, or about 20% of the country. Next year it will all change and if the Nets get Howard, in a big way.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Their job is to report the news not make it up.
If you are a Mets fan you know that they dont sugar coat how bad they are. Even the Yanks get ripped when they arent good. The Knicks on the other hand get the kids gloves.
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
Their job is to report the news, not make it up.
Lol … who told you that?
by Dopeness on Jan 30, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Right?
This is sports journalism, of which baseball has a higher standard.
Yankees players are always portrayed better than Mets players. Mets fans are always portrayed more favorably than they should just by virtue of playing in New York. Media is so biased to New York teams but some of those franchises are essential to their leagues television revenue (Knicks and Yankees).
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
I'm a Mets fan, but...
Yankees players are alwaysportrayedbetter than Mets players
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
by Taylor Made on Jan 30, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Ouch
but fair.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Haha what?
They make up tons of stuff. Their supposed “news” is crap a lot of the time.
in the 10 years the knicks have truly sucked
you have to remmeber they destroyed the knicks. The media, NYC, Tri-State area, etc. There wasn’t a beat writer that didn’t write horrible horrible things about the knicks, their coach, their franchise, their players, etc.
The fact that they want to make Knicks relevant is due to the large market in NYC. Now you add in NJ Nets in Brooklyn? A huge NYC rivalvry between Knicks and Nets?
I’ll put it this way, if the Nets get Dwight in FA and we have a core of:
Dwill / Gaines
Morrow / Brooks
Bog / S. Williams
Lopez / Hump
Dwight / Shelden
We will be the most talked about in the league, TNT, ESPN, etc. You will see them change their tune.
Once upon a time....
….ie, from 1982 – 1993, the Yankees didn’t make a single playoff appearance, and was one of the most dysfunctional franchises out there.
However, the media had the Amazin’ Mets to write about, so I don’t remember the homerism that the writers seem to have for the Knicks.
Hopefully once the Nets establish themselves in Brooklyn, the same will apply.
Your main point still stands
but the NY metro area is NOWHERE close to having over 60 milliion people. It’s more like 20 million.
Once we get to Brooklyn BSPN will be all over us.
Well be the decent looking girl who got a boob job and is now smokin hot!
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by netsfan1591 on Jan 30, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Heh.
I’d like to officially change my prediction — not that anyone cares — to the Magic trading Howard before the deadline.
(I previously said that they would hold onto him the entire season.)
Honestly who cares?
The NBA is so consumed by these stars moving and we fans just feed the frenzy. Nothing is going to happen prior to the all-star break. The Magic will lose some and everything is falling apart and then the next week they’ll be hot again and Dwight’s staying. Same goes for the Nets scenarios depending on whether the team won or lost the night before. There are too many variables to speculate upon so let’s just enjoy the ride and hope this team can hit more 3 pointers (for now).
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 9:12 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Of course nothing will happen
I don’t know how many times I’ve written ‘Just waiting until March’. This season is moot ultimately in the grand scheme of things.
"New Jersey is still the front runner for Dwight" - Rich Bucher moments ago on SC
D-Will > Carmela
by Gdepp94 on Jan 30, 2012 9:15 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Brousard is terrible
there is no way the knicks could get howard or williams. They would have to trade for both. And neither of them have made any indication they would want to play there. Dwight will be a Net. I am more confident now more than ever. The only thing that can stop this is a trade to the Lakers. I have no doubt Dwight will be traded this season.
Something I've been pondering (and slightly worried about)...
Does the drama reach a certain point that having Howard to, in a sense, headline the ASG doesn’t serve any benefit (and may even serve as a detriment)? If you have a player who draws a great deal of media attention, but no longer wants to play for your organization and has become disliked by the majority of the fan-base, what purpose does it serve to have him be your face of the ASG? It would seem to only shine a brighter light on this whole situation. Although, that could be good for the Magic; as they could come out looking like the victim.
If the Magic feel the need to trade Howard in the near future — which I hope they don’t — then the Nets don’t serve as an adequate trade partner (they can’t offer Lopez). I just hope that Orlando’s unwillingness to trade Dwight to the Lakers is strong enough to prevent them from doing so.
Dwight continues to shoot himself in the foot. For a guy that “just wants to win”, isn’t he making the worst possible decisions to get there?
Let's be honest...
If he REALLY wanted to win, he would just force his way to Chicago.
by Dopeness on Jan 30, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
absolutely or out west where there is less competition
like this trade- OKC can get him and have Durant, Westrbook, and Howard
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6p46fh3
OKC trades: Harden, Ibaka, Kendrick Perkins, Nazr
works under the cap
No indication Dwight would want to stay 5 years in OKC
So if he’s going to be a half-season rental, that would mean OKC giving up half their core that has gotten them this far, in a position to possibly win it all. If Dwight leaves them later, that would be a devastating loss.
Also, Dwight wants to be the man. He can’t be that in Chicago because they already have the MVP.
agreed.. just saying if he wanted to win.. OKC would be the team to beat for years
in the West…
In Brooklyn, he will always have to get past the Bulls and Heat
that would be a great trade for both
Harden is a RFA in 2013.. Ibaka 2013 or 2014.. hard to keep them around…
Howard/Durant/Westbrook would be such a strong team…
There are several scenarios where adding Dwight to some team means a title run
but there are also other conditions to make it viable in the real world.
This is kind of the point...
Howard could make it viable, but he won’t. It says something about him —which, as I stated above, most of us already knew.
Let's be honest.... wherever Howard goes, that team is going to win.
Let’s be honest…
If he REALLY wanted to win, he would just force his way to Chicago.
by Dopeness on Jan 30, 2012 6:21 AM PST upreplyactions
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
I've always found it ludicrous that Orlando wants the charade of Howard headlining the All-Star games, given all the trade drama
That was a good description above: it’s like having a dinner party hosted by a couple everybody knows will be getting a divorce soon. It will be more than just a bit awkward.
But when the soon-to-be divorced couple invites people over for dinner, they show up. No matter how awkward it is.
Yep, the crowd will show up (in this case, the rest of the league are required to do so) but it will still be very awkward and does nothing to improve the image of either, which is supposedly one of the aims of keeping him until then.
However, we also better not hope any Dwight trade happens before the late Feb ASG because it means we’re not part of it as Okur’s contract can’t be traded before March 1 if I’m not mistaken.
he could be traded one for one
could be a separate deal with Orlando. I think that is legal yet a loophole. Correct me if I am wrong.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
Or...
You’re simplifying it and not considering that the long-term loss could outweigh the short-term gain.
Not that hart to understand.
I'm not simplifying anything...I'm thinking how Orlando would rationalize this situation
Of course the long-term loss could (and probably will) outweigh the short-term gain, I think we all recognize that here. But DeVos clearly doesn’t understand that.
The Magic have poor self awareness
Probably the result of having an 85 year old owner at the helm (*and I do not mean that with ANY disrespect). They’re just not a well focused organization and yet they act like they’re first rate. I love how they whine about being a small market when you play in one of the largest states that has no income tax, you have just built a new arena that is superb and will host the all star game, you have a history of luring elite free agents, and the commissioner has publicly disputed your assertions.
It will be a royal, bloody mess for these guys especially because the Magic could have a rather pedestrian record but I imagince there front office will try to avoid the giant iceberg dead ahead instead of crashing through it.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
But I imagine there front office will try to avoid the giant iceberg dead ahead instead of crashing through it.
You do understand that would result in the Nets not getting Howard, right?
No, I mean crashing through it
by trading Dwight away. Go around it means grazing the side of the ship and sinking. That was a mighty stupid analogy on my part, sorry.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
No, that's my bad.
My knowledge of iceberg avoidance maneuvers is below par.
Ha!
My knowledge of iceberg avoidance maneuvers is below par.
I guess you were lucky enough to never be dragged by some girl to Titanic. I still can’t get the echoes of Celine Dion out of my head.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
well I already put a ring on it so now she can have one of her girl friends take her. Plus, she gets motion sickness from 3D. Thank God.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
I honestly feel the Magic's best play
is a trade with either the Lakers or Nets, and sooner rather than later.
I believe that’s what Otis wants to do as well. Whether the new Magic CEO lets that happen is another story. The way they have been posturing seems to indicate they want to play stubborn for now.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe Dwight coming to the Nets is a good thing, I’m sure he’ll throw Avery Johnson under the bus within 1 week.
DUN-DUH-DUH-DUN (Superman theme music plays)
by mytoemytoe on Jan 30, 2012 9:25 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Stan Van Gundy is a coaching god by comparison.
Official Member of DO NOT TRADE MARSHON Society!
To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
Don't fire Avery!
Run over him with the bus!
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
Or just admit that he's actually a good coach.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t understand all the avery hate. He’s done well w/ such limited talent… to each their own i guess.
by njnets2010 on Jan 30, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
...
Official Member of DO NOT TRADE MARSHON Society!
To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
by 3ptChucker on Jan 30, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
It's the same old song on this site
Fire Avery! Fire Frank! Fire Byron (I was on that bandwagon)! Fire Cal!
Replacing the coach when the roster isn’t up to par is pure nonsense.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You're saying the coach's ability can only be evaluated if he has a good team?
oh no that’s not stupid
Official Member of DO NOT TRADE MARSHON Society!
To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
“If I could play with Derrick right now and God wanted that to happen, it will happen,” Howard told the Tribune. “It has nothing to do with me not wanting to play with Derrick Rose. I love him. That’s my brother.” Howard disputed the notion that marketing issues factored into his leaving the Bulls off his initial trade wish list.
Read more: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/322675?eref=twitter_feed#ixzz1kx8uzDY4
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 30, 2012 9:44 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dwight is such a weird dude..
so if the Magic trade him to the Bulls today, then I guess god (aka Otis Smith) wants him to be a Bull
Of course he would dispute that
Still the most significant factor though.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 30, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
At the end of the day...... Dwight will end up playing where he wants to play. If he really wants to play in Brooklyn with Deron, he'll be in Brooklyn with Deron.
After serious deliberation, no team is going to give up assets for a rental.
by shot-a-reality on Jan 30, 2012 10:21 AM EST reply actions
Exactly what J Buss said and Kupchak is leaving not worried about Lakers
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 30, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
This
Going by what Buss said and the fact that the deal would’ve probably been made by now if LA was indeed offering up Bynum, leads me to believe he may have told LA that he won’t sign there.
by TMS11 on Jan 30, 2012 10:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I bet ESPN reporters like Brussard would be all over with breaking news if Lakers wouldn't been first option
but since they not we all have to wait till Lopez comes back so the deal could be finished
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 30, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
I need a fastforward button
Just need to use it twice. Once till the trade deadline, and again to the end of the season.
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 30, 2012 10:30 AM EST reply actions
Bingo!
The soap opera never ends; and we’re all hooked – even when the news loops back on itself .
Did ya'll see Chauncey drop 32 last night?
Loved this tweet.
TheNBAAdvisory The NBA Advisory
When the #Knicks traded Chauncey Billups for Tyson Chandler they traded a steering wheel for a bigger car. Looks nice in garage
LOL, this HoopsWorld dude is out of his mind
TommyBeer Tommy Beer
Yes. Chandler has been great. RT @docluke56: @TommyBeer Do you think the Knicks would do the Billups for Chandler swap again?
by Anthony Perez on Jan 30, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Chandler's numbers are decent IMO, averaging a double double on 70% shooting from the field
But I think the foundation of a team shouldn’t lean on 3 bigs. The Knicks look lost right now because they the lack the leadership an experienced vet like Billups can bring. Their need for a good, seasoned PG outweighs their need for a defensive Center.
Haha I hope he's being sarcastic
They lost a veteran leader and glue guy of that team, tough for Knicks to replicate. I don’t feel bad for Chauncey, he’s in a better situation now.
and ..... Exhale....phew
Been Holding my breath for another NBA-beat silly, muddled rehash of Dwightmare.
That was like 123 seconds. I better get my lung capacity up.
Did you all see this Rudy Fernandez half-court play last night!?!?!?!????
Holy hell. What an AMAZING play.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 30, 2012 10:53 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
This still makes me angry
You put Dwight in Jersey, there are some reservations he has about that roster because, you know, he is looking at that roster and thinking ‘If I go there even with Deron, we may only be as good as we are in Orlando right now.’
If Dwight comes to NJ via FA that would give us
2 of the top 5 Bigs in the NBA in Howard and Lopez
1 of the top 5 Playmakers in the NBA in DWill
1 of the top 15-20 Wings in the NBA in Brooks
Yeah that team might be SLIGHTLY better than the Magic
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 11:02 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I admire your optimism but Brook Lopez hasn’t been a Top 5 center since his second year. Let’s see him play this season before we say he’s a killer bargaining chip.
Brooks hasn’t even played 20 games yet and you are saying he’s one of the 15-20 best wings in the NBA. I want to believe his early season swag is what we’ll see over his entire career but his numbers in college suggest he’s not always going to shoot 50%.
Dwight has never played with a Top 5 point guard. That’s a good enough chip, especially if he won’t go to Chicago because of a shoe contract.
I would rather name 3 teams that won't be interested in B Lo
Memphis Lakers and Orlando rest of NBA teams will make a trade in a sec
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 30, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
I would say:
Howard
Horford
Duncan
Nene
Gasol
Chandler
I believe all these guys give you a better all around game than Lopez.
Lopez can score with the best of them but defensively I think he’s probably the worst of the bunch.
duncan isn't a Center and which gasol?
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Duncan is definitely not a center.
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
He may not be a center in terms of the position next to his name but he is the prototypical modern PF-C who owns the paint on defense. In my mind he is one of the best centers of all time.
but he is a PF
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He’s a hybrid. The NBA requires you to designate a player with a “position” but if you can guard the team’s best big man and own the paint on defense, and you can dominate the pick and roll game on offense, you are a center and a power forward.
i understand that
but if we are being “technical” he is a designated Power Forward but he is one of the best big men of all time
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Duncan past his primes since last year at least
As of right now you saying Horfard is can play Lopez one on one? Last seaon i watched ATL games they doubled Lopez every 4q and Lopez still had his 20 and 7 playing with Outlow Graham.
Chandler is liability on on offense and stays in foul trouble got handled by Delambert in houston etc
Nene playing PF and he couldnt gourd Lopez either plus always played in better team
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 30, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Lol, what?
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
Maybe you should handle this one, MT.
by Dopeness on Jan 30, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lol.
Dwight Howard, Andrew Bynum, Andrew Bogut, Al Horford, Al Jefferson, Roy Hibbert, Nene Hilario.
There’s seven.
Yes and Yes.
Yet he played the center position better than Brook Lopez. What does that say?
Of course it does your naming PF's that play Center better than Lopez but they are PF
PG’s like Rose and WestBrook plays SG better than most SG in the league but they are PG’s so we don’t mention them with te top SG’s we mention them with the best PG’s. LeBron James is THE best PG in the game but we dnt mention him as one we mention him as the best Sf in the game. Makes tons of sense
no way
am i taking bogut hibbert or nene over lopez … not even close
by watchoutBLo on Jan 30, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Howard, Horford, M.Gasol, Bargnani, Bogut, Jefferson, Nene
and Monroe if he keeps on putting up monstrous numbers
you know 4 of those centers PF or playing PF
and from where Barnianin is better than Lopez
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 30, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
It's really all about preference...
Howard is clearly #1.
2. I give to Bynum the way he’s been playing the fact he is healthy.
3. M.Gasol has been playing great ball. Keep in mind he is older and his prime
After that it’s a crapshoot
Hibbert – big and decent, but slow and limited
Monroe – probably too early to pile on the praise but he’s good
Horford – not a fan of him as a C.. like him as a PF though. Doesn’t have much size and is limited offensively
Nene – now plays PF, but at C was arguably a better player
Jefferson – not a fan, but he is having a great year
Bargnani – no.
Bogut – no way. He’s way too injury prone and limited offensively.
Chandler – no.
I think there are 3 centers right now clearly better than Brook. The rest are all debatable, and given Lopez’s injury (and some of the others) it’s even more debatable.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 30, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Wow you bashing Lopez big time
Lopez is top5 hands down I bet 27 of 30 NBA teams will take him in a heart beat it has nothing to do with your opinion that’s just facts
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 30, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
It has plenty to do with my opinion, in my opinion he plays poor defense and is a poor passer out of the double team.
not to mentioned who he played with
he’s first two years Lopez had 20 and 9 with no help at all. i’m yet to see how Bynum will handle situation like that, i know Gasol did worst in Memphis before Bogut havent had full healthy season in what 5 years. list goes on Lopez is top 5 STOP IT JUST STOP
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 30, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
just to note>:
the drop off for Centers in this league is huge and I think we all see that.
After Howard, Bynum, Gasol the drop off is all within brook lopez’s range so yes he is a top 5 center in the NBA but not because he’s THAT good but because there are very limited number of centers left. All the new players incoming are hybrids, true centers aka Dwight Howard are few and far between.
Just look at blake griffin. He is hands down the best power forward in the game, but in all honesty he is NOT that good. It’s just there aren’t any great Power Forwards anymore (please don’t use duncan, he’s on his way out) with the skills sets left to play. True power forwards.
Ever since the league changed rules of fouling and defensive key etc. the league has become a hybrid of fast / quick moving guards. It’s sad to say but these positions will be even less as the leagues go on. One day I’m not surprised if an NBA team fields 4 guards and one PF/Center hybrid.
defense is also part of the game. Howard, gasol, Bynum are the top 3. Then if you are the GM of Detroit, Indiana, ny would you trade your center for Lopez? I don’t think so. Not only Lopez is considered the worst defender(he and al Jefferson) but he ain’t playing. I’m really glad to see some net fans are very realistic and did not overvalue Lopez. he is not a top 5 center YET.
by letsgolal on Jan 30, 2012 1:19 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
top 5 centers
not in any order, dwight, lopez, bynum…..someone help me out here
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Bogut, Hibbert?
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
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true and horford
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Compare people to Lopez from last year
Lopez
20.4 ppg on 49.2% FG
5.9 Rebounds
1.5 Blocks
1.6 Assists
Horford (Not better)
12.4 PPG on 55.3% FG
7.0 RPG
1.3 Blocks
2.2 Assists
Noah (Not even close)
8.3 PPG on 46.2% FG
9.1 RPG
1.3 Blocks
2.0 Assists
Gasol ( On the same level)
15.1 PPG on 51.9% FG
10.4 RPG
2.3 Blocks
3.1 Assists
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
To be fair, Noah is a monster defender
But I think people overrate him a bit.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 30, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
his way overrated
Noah to me is Hump
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 30, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Offensively yes
But Noah is far better defensively.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 30, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Lost a lot of hope in bogut
Dude missed 2 seasons with 2 major injuries. Idk how well hell do when he comes back
by Alec5 on Jan 30, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lopez was a top 5 Center last year and will be when he gets back.
Why would you think Lopez would be any different. It’s not like his foot injury is going to make him slower since that’s impossible. I think he actually comes back better since he has been hitting the weights more.
Yes I believe Brooks is a top 15-20 wing in the NBA. I have believed in him since he has been at Providence. Their really isnt alot of good Wings in todays NBA
Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Durant, Joe Johnson, Manu, Melo are the top tier
Granger, Iggy, Deng, G Wallace, J Smith, Harden, Pierce, Allen, Gay would be the next teir
After that I would be hard pressed to take someone over Brooks who plays on the wing
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Ha!
Lopez was not a top-five center last year.
You guys crack me up.
Name them then
Lopez was a 20 point scorer on 49% shooting
Howard
Bynum
Lopez
then the next group isnt even close
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
it sure is
but he is still a dominant center
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his defense isn't great
but he is a huge factor on offense, just imagine when he comes back and if he plays at the level we are used to with improved rebounding and more muscle along with dwill…he will do some damage
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So......
Defense!!!!
Basketball is a 2 way game
Defense wins but the people you consider good on defense get owned by Lopez and his 20 points. Which makes them useless.
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
How good is that defense when Lopez is scoring with ease against most centers
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
They Dont?
How many centers score 20 a game?
Lopez and Howard and thats it.
Its much easier to find a Noah type of player like say Sam Dalembert then it is to find a Lopez.
7 foot scorers are the hardest thing to find in sports besides a top level QB
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 30, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Brooks has proven he’s better than Mayo, George, Crawford, and Kevin Martin who only has high stats cause he shoots so damn much.
-Justin L.
Mayo averaged 18ppg as a rookie
George came in as a soph and currently doing 11ppg on a good Indy team.
Crawford came in as a freshman but by Marshon’s age was doing 17ppg.
Martin, an even later pick at 26th, came in a junior and by Marshon’s age was a 20ppg scorer, which he has consistently been since, bad team or not.
Marshon’s came into the NBA as a senior and it’s great he can contribute right away. He’s very promising no doubt, definitely a steal taken so late in the draft. We’re all excited but he hasn’t yet ‘proven’ he’s better than all those players.
No he hasn't
He’s barely played and it’s way too early to make that conclusion.
At this point, amongst others, guys to take over Brooks right now you didn’t mention include Jamal Crawford, Tony Allen, Shane Battier, Kevin Martin, Danilo Gallinari, Arron Afflalo, Wesley Matthews, Eric Gordon, Tyreke Evans, and Grant Hill.
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
Otis knows his team is distracted by trade talks...
and will refocus past deadline and make a strong push at the end of the season, maybe clinching a 3rd spot and a trip to the ECF.
Wishful thinking, but then, why not?
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
This isn't something we don't already know
It’s obvious what Dwight wants. With the way the team has been tanking recently, I doubt they can hold onto him past the deadline(only part of the article I disagree with). Just a matter of getting Brook healthy. Look, Otis(as it turned out) wanted to make the trade. You don’t think he’ll tell the owners they have to do this? They really want this distraction for the whole season, all for a pipe dream of going to the ECF or NBA Finals? I seriously doubt it. Oh yeah, what user here said this would be a distraction for the team? ME.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
LJ3 I was just thinking last night, “Lupo is going to love this.”
I kept saying, nope, Dwight is too proud to tank a season or throw his team under the bus. Nope! But let’s hope it doesn’t backfire.
It won't
and I appreciate the acknowledgement of me being right. Computer is messed up, or i’d have been on here a lot more(at the library comp). It’s obvious. Dwight was the good soldier and waited to see what the season holds. He saw what happened, and now he’s fed up. Those 67 and 56 point performances by the team sealed it.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
Evan Roberts just offered Joe Beningo this trade:
Jordan Farmar for Landry Fields, but he was laughing while he offered it. “I’ll give you Jordan Farmar, this guy’s a real pro.”
Why would we do that?
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
LF was a good player last season before the Knicks messed up their chemistry with Melo.
He’d be a great role player on the Dwight-Nets.
But the joke was that the Knicks need a professional point guard and that Farmar is one.
True
but what’s his cap number?
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
you know whats funny?
dwight howard to me, really doesn’t have any special skills or anything…he is just..a big guy and his defense is very good, he has no jumpshot…can barely shoot free throws….but he is just intimidating, but lopez on the the other hand has an array of post moves and has an offensive set, he doesn’t just rely on his size, i’m not saying lopez>>>howard, but they are two different centers and have different roles, it will be interesting to see what howard can do here i brookyln (if he comes here)
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you forgot media BSPN attention
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 30, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
42 and 24
for a guy with no skill that can still put up 42 points and 24 rebounds, skill no longer matters.
If lopez without any skill coudl do that, lopez would be better than howard. At his size and physical ability it is no longer skill but just pure productivity on the court.
Lopez as much as I love him, is not in the same league as Howard.
Lopez and Bynum are in the same league.
Shaq started the same way
In ORL, shaq was all about the dunking. Later on he developed a post moves, hook shot and even a turn around J.
how many rings does he have again?
THE NBA
Where YOU DONT KNOW WHAT Happens
Jefferson – 6-10 / 290 lbs
Bynum – 7-0 / 285 lbs
Hibbert – 7-2 / 275 lbs
Cousins – 6-11 / 270 lbs
M. Gasol – 7-1 / 265 lbs
Haywood – 7-0 / 265 lbs
Jordan – 6-11 / 265 lbs
Varejao – 6-11 / 260 lbs
McGee – 7-0 / 260 lbs
Lopez – 7-0 / 265 lbs
-—————————————-
Howard – 6-11 / 275 lbs
He’s better than they all are, by any conceivable measure. I don’t need my de-facto Defensive Player of the Year and MVP-caliber Center shooting 20 ft jumpers, or even free throws. A small drop-step-into-baby-hook move will more than will suffice.
by shane gayle on Jan 30, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
well he's the only franchise type center
rest of those centers good pieces for the good teams but nothing more than that.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 30, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
that's kinda the point...
that he’s the only one who’s a “build your team around him” player yet they’re all the same size. the idea that his size is the reason he dominates is silly.
Everytime I think I've moved on....
…I HATE THE RAPTORS!
…but I hate that the Nets took that game lightly even more.
Anyway….wonder if we’ll get some kind of D12 leak this week that’ll make us take up most of our day posting in Netsdaily that “this time could finally be it!!!” I’ll take a day like that this week just cuz it’s been a while.
I think we will
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
I'll name five centers better than Lopez
Petro, Petro, Petro, Petro and Petro.
He just doesn’t settle for being the best in the business, he sets the standard for all who aspire to be a Prototypical NBA Center.
lol
but Petro wasn’t the reason we lost last night.
by Versifiervt on Jan 30, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
What do you prefer this season?
1. Nets to make the playoffs
2. Rockets to make the playoffs
3. Knicks to not make the playoffs
lol
"Beware the Ides of March."
1
f that pick trade that with Farmar for solid SF
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 30, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
4. Not listed-Dwight comes to the Nets, Deron and Dwight sign and we build the team from there
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
It sounds crazy, but No3 for me!!!
As much as I would like to make the playoffs, I would rather see Nix not make it.
Nets aint going anywhere regardless …
IF, BIG IF ...
If D12 were to get hurt, can he still get traded?
Woul that be something that can be a blessing is disguise for Nets (if he were unable to get traded)???
Why would you want that
If he can get traded here?
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
I asked a question!
I don’t know if he would be able to get traded (maybe Nets would waive the physical).
If he would NOT be able to get traded, I think he would easily come as a FA.
I still do NOT believe that he will stay in ORL past deadline (unless some crazy stuff happens).
Don't be gettin greedy now...
If Dwight is coming here we hop on that. Don’t care if it’s trade or fre agency
I agree as well. I want him here, and I could careless how.
I just asked a question on a slow day here in Netsdaily land.
Trust me id rather have him come free agency as well.
But that’s a huge gamble. I think if he even hits FA hell be a Net but that’s no guarantee
I agree with you Alec
That’s whay it has to be via trade and why I also think BK/Fegan and Otis never stopped talking, especially after this past week.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
are there any news an brook's return?
excuse my bad english please
league sources say there is a desire on New Jersey’s part to cash those guys in for ending deals before the trade deadline.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-who-is-available-in-trade
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 30, 2012 12:12 PM EST reply actions
huh?
Anthony Morrow: The New Jersey Nets are going nowhere fast, and while there are still lots of games to be played there is a sense that New Jersey is ready to start planning for the offseason.
Last night’s game was a hiccup. We have as many wins as the Knicks while our offense has been looking a lot more smoother than the Knicks. Oh wait…i better stop saying Knicks in my posts cuz somebody might think i’m a troll. ;-)
But to me, the Nets have made strides with the talent they currently have.
by Versifiervt on Jan 30, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
now we have to trade for Stephen Jackson?
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
by Taylor Made on Jan 30, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
suggested Nets get him
but not sure if they’d have the assets to get him and D12
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 30, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
wow
Nets_PR Nets PR Dept.
MarShon Brooks has a broken little toe on his right foot. No timetable for his return.
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 30, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions
OMG ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!!
Nets PR Dept. @Nets_PR
MarShon Brooks has a broken little toe on his right foot. No timetable for his return.
What is wrong with you
And is this a joke? please tell me it is?
timetable
“just after the trade deadline”
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
by Taylor Made on Jan 30, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
best way to look at this...
….if there’s any positive way is that it could just be the result of the crazy schedule. Jumping from College to the Pros is one thing but playing 4 to 5 games a week is whack. Rather think this way than question is durability.
by Versifiervt on Jan 30, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
its a toe i hardly doubt it unless there down playing it which won't surprise me
this just seems fishy to me
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 30, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
I have no expertise whatsoever but for some reason I feel like...
A toe would heal a lot quicker than a weird bone inside of the food. You can pretty easily alter the way you walk to limit pressure on the little toe. Not so easy to do with the sole of your foot.
its a fing toe you know how many times I've broken my big toes you shouldn't miss one game for this man up
this has to be the nets being sneaky or something
More MarShon Please
broken toe
hes got 9 other good ones right? let him play
yeah just heard on the radio..looks like Dwight is working with our management too LOL
Dwight interested in playing with Stephen Jackson in Jersey/Brooklyn
New York Giants
*2011 NFC CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS*
this is bs why would dwight want to play with stephen jackson guys like 34
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 30, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Nets PR Dept. @Nets_PR Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
DeShawn Stevenson, sore right knee, will not travel to Indiana for the game on 1/31. Mehmet Okur, sore lower back, will also be out.
More MarShon Please
call up Foote and Curry
why not?
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
by Taylor Made on Jan 30, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
lmao
can we just forefeit and get ready for the wolves on wednesday night
by watchoutBLo on Jan 30, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
(Pistons)
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
by Taylor Made on Jan 30, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
All those dissing Brook's defense
Even with his “garbage” defense, we were a better defensive then than we are now. We were a better rebounding team with him than we are now. All the Brook haters are also downplaying the fact that Nets had the worst wing defenders in the league last season (and the season before). This meant that Brook was often switched and exposed against quicker guards. Very few 7 footers out there (if any) can look good guarding quicker, smaller guards.
So before you bury Brook’s defense, at least give him a chance to prove himself in a good defensive team. A team where the wing defense doesn’t consist of Morrow, Outlaw or Vujacic.
I definitely believe that Brook is FAR from a defensive liability like many label him as. Sure, he isn’t a defensive anchor by any means, but he definitely has the potential to be decent on the defensive end. He can play good low post and on man defense, and he’s a decent shot blocker. He’s a really bad rotation defender though, and that is why he struggles against guard matchups.
You’re right, Okur’s defense is probably even worse than Lopez’s. No one’s saying we’d rather have Petro or Okur than Loepz.
How do you explain Humphries being significantly worse
On the defensive end this year.
It doesn’t matter what lineup we put out there (even if no Petro and no Okur), we’re still crap defensively.
Take it for what it's worth (little)
incarceratedbob Incarcerated Bob
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@FJY24 Yes Lakers have started talks again about D Howard — Also the Bulls have made some inquires as well.. Nets may jump in later
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BREAKING NBA NEWSSource: The Lakers have started talks with Magic again about D Howard & now the Bulls are also involved.. Heating up
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Incarcerated Bob
incarceratedbob Incarcerated Bob
If Orlando losses a couple more games this week it could be the end of the D Howard era.. Locker-Room has already begun 2shut him off
19 hours ago
Bob's right about the locker room
Guess shane missed that part.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
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