If Cousins Available, Nets Interested?
by Net Income on Jan 3, 2012 11:09 PM EST
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PrintStefan Bondy is the latest writer to report that the Nets would be interested in trading for DeMarcus Cousins should the Kings decide to deal him. Bondy tweeted, "Nets are looking into trading for DeMarcus Cousins, according to a league source". But he added, "At this point, however, the Kings aren't ready to deal the center."
As Adrian Wojnarowski reported on Monday, Kings ownership wants to give things more one chance. "Several teams called Kings on DeMarcus Cousins today, and all told same thing: Not available. No way Kings give up so fast. Too talented". In the Kings 17-point loss Tuesday, Cousins came off the bench and shot 1-for-5 but grabbed eight boards.
- Should the Nets trade for DeMarcus Cousins? - Colin Stephenson - Star-Ledger
- Nets have interest in trading for disgruntled DeMarcus Cousins as Brook Lopez still injured - Colin Stephenson - New York Daily News
- Nets reportedly interested in Cousins - Mike Mazzeo - ESPN New York
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Depends
On who/what we give…
Might be worth the risk..
They would want Lopez
We would laugh, but ultimately have nothing to offer. We’re not trading our #1 for him either.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 3, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Why not?
He’s better than anyone the Nets will get being a middling team. And on the Nets, his stats will boom across the board and his trade value would go up, making him a valuable trade chip to repackage elsewhere in the deal for Dwight
Its way too early to give up on talent like that
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 3, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, there not the Nets
they will continue to hold onto him until he does something pretty stupid, but until then, they have an up and coming big man.
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i agree.
It wouldnt make sense to get less value for a guy who can be one of those rare 20 10 2 guys. With a good young core id do what it takes to keep him around.
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by njnets on Jan 3, 2012 11:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Plus the Kings and Cousins have claimed nothing ever happened
Not sure who to believe, but the Kings wouldn’t be stupid enough to trade him.
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king released an official statement on their site stating hes requested a trade and has been told to keep away from team
by Henry Sanchez on Jan 3, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
he played tonight
That news is a few days old I believe
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by BEB on Jan 3, 2012 11:30 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I know that, he must still be getting info from that Jermaine Dupri
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actually it was Westphal that made all those statements
but Kings fans and North Cali people are confused as to why Petrie let those statements go public as if he wants Cousins gone
some think Westphal is trying to save himself for when the team has another losing season with little progress and blame it on the players he can.
its really perplexing. but we do know Cousins was always a hothead, Westphal is not a strong-willed coach, and as long as Evans in his current state is the face and end all team leader there will be no promise
they are dead last in assists and i dont see that changing for the time being
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
eh, they're rebuilding
and he’s a building block: young, talented, on a rookie contract, skilled with potential to grow. He’s exactly what a rebuilding team needs, except for his attitude.
What can we possibly trade for him that the Kings would want?
and what kind of a Sophomore asks for a trade?
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Farmar/Jordan Williams/Houston pick?
doubt that would do it but its only offer we can make w/o significantly hurting our assets for D12 trade
by Henry Sanchez on Jan 3, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Nope, that can't even get Outlaw from them lol
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what Minny give up for Beasly?
a 2011 second round pick i believe
by Henry Sanchez on Jan 3, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
And what did the Heats get that same off-season?
They gave Beasley away, and he’s been beasting with the T-Wolves.
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point is value is not as high as you may think
by Henry Sanchez on Jan 3, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
No.
The reason they gave him away for a second round pick was to assemble the big three.
They traded Beasley for a 2nd round pick, Lebron James and Chris Bosh.
Didn;t that pick become Norris Cole too or am I mistaken?
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"I’m anxious to see if they make the same mistake twice." - Shaq talking about the Magic.
They honestly didn't need of want him
they just wanted to get rid of him and clear some space. If anything WE’RE the stupid one’s for not trading Dooling for him.
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Indeed.
Thorn was terrible.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"I’m anxious to see if they make the same mistake twice." - Shaq talking about the Magic.
SMH
the guy gets praised for Drafting MJ and some other good trades, but he is overall bad.
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His one single move of trading for Jason Kidd made the Nets an NBA Finals team
That alone can’t be considered bad.
by ZR on Jan 4, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
what kind of sophmore asks to be traded?
A tin foil hat nutcase.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
LOL
I don’t care what his problems are off the court. They get payed to play ball, not act like Nuns.
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Unfortunately there's no medication he can take
to stop the lady with one leg from telling him to do things lol.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
LOL
I can honestly see him asking to go to the Wizards if he wanted to get traded. He and Wall are like brothers, and played great together.
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Maybe
Wizards could swap McGee for him I think he’s still on a rookie deal.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
That might work, or even Blatche as well
He’s been pretty PO recently.
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Blatche makes too much for a straight up swap
Sac might have to add more for that trade. Scratch that it works on NBA trade machine.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Yea, might be a bit much
and its also not about the big names as well. Sometimes players just need to compliment each other like how Lopez and Hump do. We have one hell of an underrated front court, because we’ve lacked a C for so long, and Hump is our best PF since K-Mart.
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There's no way the Wiz tade McGee for Cousins
They don’t need any distractions or headcases around Wall, which is exactly what Cousins is. And besides, McGee has chemistry with the team, and has more value as a trade chip too
from a talent standpoint the sky is the limit.
But theres many variables involved. Including what orlando is doing with Dwight or maybe a 3way for us to land dwight and orl. Gets cousins.
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by njnets on Jan 3, 2012 11:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
not if they delay the trade past January 15
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cant be traded again for 60 days which is March 15th trade deadline
acquired after 1/15 would mean he cant be flipped in D12 trade
by Henry Sanchez on Jan 3, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
players traded cant re-traded for 60 days
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would be nice though. Lopez/Cousins trumps Gasol/Bynum by miles and miles
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
no
actually Gasol and Bynum would trump Lopez and Cousins by a lot
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
by NJ Champ on Jan 4, 2012 12:23 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
based on skill and potential
in 5 years who would you want?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
well because gasol is aging lopez and cousins would be better.
but Cousins’ attitude problem scares me
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by NJ Champ on Jan 4, 2012 12:35 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
totally agree
Bynum/Gasol is definitely better than Lopez/Cousins – TODAY
But when Brook starts lighting things up when he gets back, and Gasol’s age starting to affect his play, Lopez and Cousins would be a killer front court for years to come, if Cousins could just learn to be a better teammate.
But also look at their salaries! Is a Bynum/Gasol frontcourt $30mil better than Lopez/Cousins? I think not
us net fans really have nothingngoin on huh lol
so pathetic…..why did brook go down ughhhhh
After watching the Kings/Lakers game last week
I must say that Cousins is impressive. He will be very good over the next few years when he really learns the game and gets better.
With that said, he is quite the risk. Potentially cancerous in the locker room.
I’d give no more than Farmar + Petro + 2nd rd pick
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 3, 2012 11:17 PM EST reply actions
should have drafted him
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
So we could trade him?
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I meant if they wanted him they should have drafted him
Picking Favors over him then a year later having neither bad front office moves.
Now they want to get Cousins? No they moiso’d that up.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Alot of teams want Cousins
but he’s not on the block imo. They might field offers, but a team would have to give up equal or more value for him.
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the interest from a lot of teams makes sense
The Kings don’t know how to train that pit bull.
Avery's should show them how it's done.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
LOL Avery?
I can see him throwing Avery through a wall. And he sure as hell couldn’t train T-Willz, who I felt was treated unfairly.
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Which coach does D. Cousins choke?
A. Avery Johnson
B. PJ Carlisemo
C. Tom Barrise
D. All of the above
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
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by universal on Jan 3, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I got with D lol
They better get Patrick Ewing here to control that man or Chuck Norris.
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Chuck Norris is overated
Bruce Lee whopped his butt.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Not sure how true that is
or get Money Mayweather to tame him as well lol
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This can't be it? Can it?
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blasphemy
Bruce Lee is a legend. Chuck Norris is the great white hype.
i heard in real life chuck norris spanked bruce lee in a tournament
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Actually, this clears up all 3 comments lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcl81ldNODc&feature=related
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what an ignorant statement
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by BEB on Jan 4, 2012 12:11 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
let me guess you're....
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
I'm what?
Say what your implying. Don’t be like that. I’m also probably way older than you and am intelligent enough to know that Norris didn’t start out as Walker Texas Ranger. Of Course Lee was a better student of martial arts. But to call him the great white hope is ignorant and pompous.
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by BEB on Jan 4, 2012 8:46 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
American :D
Seriously how arrogant.
If a Spanish girl teaches me how to speak the language and later I become a teacher that doesn’t make me a fluent speaker.
It teaches the basics which is good to know.
However, if you have try speaking to a Puerto Rican girl with book learned spanish you’ll get laughed at.
Classes don’t teach the way it’s spoken…
The best way to learn is by being around people who will correct you eg. someone who is latino.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
hope that's not too confusing lol
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Your wrong
Bruce is a chi fighter. If he told you what he knew, he’d have to kill you.
by Zartan on Jan 4, 2012 12:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah but one time chuck norris was banned from the olympics because his presence alone was considered a performance -enhancing drug
lol
But could Chuck Norris do this?
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
but Bruce Lee killed him
in the movie at least lol.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
They couldn't beat Jim Jones
who knew Kool Aid could be so deadly lol
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yeah but chuck norris roundhouse kicked bruce lee in his dreams. and as you know if you get a roundhouse kick by chuck norris in your dreams you die in real life
I give up
There’s no arguing with dreams.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Lee and Norris were good friends
they worked on improving their skills together and even taught each other techniques
This is my exact concern
If he’s immature in Sacto, he’ll never survive NJ.
by ZR on Jan 4, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
As bad as we are...
I just cant root for this guy. He is a team cancer and puts himself before EVERYTHING.
The only way i could take this guy is if he is trade bait being acquired. If we have long term plans around DC II, I think they will help me check out once and for all
In other news
Courtney Lee looks TERRIBLE.
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 3, 2012 11:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I could see him dealt in a three way deal...
We send a few picks to Sacramento + Farmar. They get rid of Cousins’ and get 3-4 first round picks
Cousins, MarShon Brooks, Lopez is a VERY good rebuilding package for Orlando…
We get Dwight…
Win for everyone
If Kings are interested
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they probably arent going to give up on cousins yet
But would be a nice asset in a trade for dwight
Well I was thinking in March
If relations continue to sour, 3-4 first round picks is not bad + Farmar
We give up all that for Howard? No freaking way
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i was gonna say that
i’m not so sure i would either.
i probably would. but i’d think real long and hard about it
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 3, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
LOL, yeah, he’s just Dwight Howard. Nothing special
by mytoemytoe on Jan 3, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He's Dwight Howard
You have to do it….Lopez+Cousins+Brooks could be great sure but Dwight IS GREAT right now. And you have to remember 3-4 first round picks would be in the 20’s w Dwight. If we get Cousins’ for 2-3 first rounders we’re giving up some lottery picks…
He's only ONE PLAYER
he better be able to guard 3 players at once since your giving up 3 good players for him AND taking back an aging scrub in Turkoglu. And its super easy to take Howard out of a game, or did people not see the last Magics game along with his career?
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I would definitely not also include Brooks
Send Morrow or djames, let them choose.
There is no way in hells
a team not name the Knicks would trade 3 average + players for 1 guy. Are some people so Super Star blind that they forgot this is a 5-5 game?
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So we lose Deron Williams
So we can keep three question marks (if we get Cousins) on the team.
Cousins-A head case and the situation in Sac could happen here
Lopez-Still young, but a foot injury on a center is always dicey
Brooks-Has talent but you can’t say he’s a superstar yet. And looks to go ISO too much.
vs.
D-Will (superstart) and Dwight Howard (superstar) heading into Brooklyn, where more guys might sign for the vet min to play with this team
Shooting too much? He is the only guy on team who can put ball in basket.
And he also is shooting at a good percentage, 46 percent as opposed to 38 percent shooting as a team. So let him call for even more isos
I'm not a huge Howard fan
but a 1/16 diamond looks great in a pile of rhinestones.
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He's our best shooter
But it’s been 6 games…He could either be Kobe-good (possibly) or a chucker like Jamaal Crawford (possible, too).
yeah- but two of those players for Dwight is certainly possible
but all 3? that would be stupid, there is no other team that could possibly offer that much value for Dwight. Even the lakers giving up both Gasol and Bynum (which they supposedly wouldn’t do) isn’t that much value.
but we’re probably not getting cousins so… whatever….
by giantsnetsmets on Jan 3, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Kings aren't trading him
there not the Nets
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 3, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Would love to get him
but I don’t think Sac is that dumb honestly to get rid of him this early in the game. Has a lot of potential, just needs to get his head on straight.
Only trade from King I’m hoping for in the meantime is him shipping out Farmar and somehow getting value out of it.
if the maloofs are still hell-bent on getting to Anaheim or anywhere else
Look at the Sonics before and after Clay Bennett took over who swore on his momma grave he had no intentions of moving the team
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Too bad this guy isn't older and stable
He would help a lot right now if he was playing to his ability and helping us stay afloat. I hate to say it, but with enough incentive, I would trade Lopez for him.
Something like….
Lopez, Petro, Farmar
for
Cousins, Thompson, Salmons, Future #1
Deron / Gaines
Brooks / Morrow / Stevenson
Salmons / D.James / Shawne
Humphries / Thompson / Jordan
Cousins / Okur / Sheldon
I fully expected to be hazed for that one, but I doubt Sacramento would even do it.
But…We can still afford Dwight in the off-season or have potentially preferred assets if Orlando trades him. We’d be a much better team in the short term as Farmar, Petro and Lopez are all offering nothing.
I smacked my self as soon as I saw Lopez name in that trade.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 3, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Like I said
This trade makes us 10x better thanks to Salmons and Thompson alone as we improve dramatically at SF.
But mainly, it’s done for Orlando. Clearly they do not like Lopez. That is problematic.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 3, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Your entitle to your opinion, which is respected
but I disagree 100%.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 3, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lopez is a piece that means alot more to us than others
IMO. I’m not sure how big the market is for a guy with a reputation of being “soft” defensively and on the boards.. and he’s got a broken foot. AND he’s due for a major pay day next summer, probably getting the rookie max.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 3, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
eww gross...
I wouldn’t touch cousin with a 10 ft pole, let alone trade for him.
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i might get flack for this but how bout brooks, farmer, a pick and one of our expirings to get cousins. then flip cousins for dwight. either way we would have to give up brooks whether it’s orlando or sac town
I wouldn't trade
Brooks for Cousins straight up. And Orlando certainly wouldn’t do Howard for him.
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by calling all toasters on Jan 3, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
"Magic can rebuild with Cousins and Lopez!"
“We didn’t want to rebuild with Cousins and Lopez because they were both centers.”
Among other reasons.
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yeah so if we were to get cousins. orlando wouldn’t oppose to lopez and cousins thus giving us the upper hand
what!?
Why would they not oppose to rebuilding with two centers? We chose not to!
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Why would they oppose to it?
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Tons of stuff why pairing Cousins with Lopez can get awkward.
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You haven't said why
It has actually been extensively debated on this very website as to why that would not be an ideal pairing.
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Jigga
What would you give up for Cousins (I know you don’t want him, but as a future chip)?
by Belarus4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
unless Sacramento really wants to get rid of him
the Nets dont have any pieces to get him (besides Brooks which wont happen)
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Morrow, James and 1st?
Sacto prolly laughs, but Cousins eventually will force their hand I think.
by Belarus4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Not Deron, not Brooks, not Lopez.
I don’t think we can get it done. Morrow, hump, and picks stink for the Kings. We can’t add Brooks Brothers as they’re earmarked for Dwight.
(Brooks is definitely gone, by the way Bynum is playing)
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by GMJigga on Jan 4, 2012 2:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I want us to get Cousins, but!
only as a trade chip to land decent SF.
Having Cousins AND Lopez makes no sense, since Cousins will blow up after few off the bench games.
by Belarus4life on Jan 3, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah it would be their problem, that's perhaps why they wouldn't accept that trade.
Duh!
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lol good lord
How on Earth can you agree with the idea that building with two true centers makes no sense, then flat out say that it’d be a problem for the team trading for that, and then doubt why Orlando would make that deal. lol, just listen to your own argument!
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by GMJigga on Jan 4, 2012 2:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I almost gave up on Dwight.
I learned hard way to think about today first, before I think about tomorrow. We may lose DWill by losing to everyone. Think about that first.
by Belarus4life on Jan 3, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Dwill said that it's first time in his career that he doesn't have post player to thow the ball to
King is listening and acting.
by Belarus4life on Jan 3, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
We've got another off-season in case we don't get Dwight.
The 2012 FA is the real plan B.
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It's gonna be worse than Lebron offseason.
We have to secure DWill first, but to secure him we have to secure Dwight. But to secure Dwight we have to secure DWill … oh boy… I give up.
by Belarus4life on Jan 3, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Have to sign other FA's first
Dwill doesn’t commit to doing “this” all over again until there are players signed.
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All this with Cuban whispering in Deron's right ear
“Come home, Deron, we’ve got no State tax, no city tax. We are Mavs, they are Nets. Come home to play with Dirk…”
by Belarus4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
I gotta say
Bynum looks very good. Bynum and Gasol work very well together. I can’t really see the Lakers trading either.
Just my opinion
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 3, 2012 11:42 PM EST reply actions
Depends on there plans
Keep trying to contend until Kobe is done, or realize Kobe is done and they need to rebuild.
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okay would you tell Kobe he is done to his face
and risk becoming a permanent global pariah?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
I would, but I'm not in charge of the Lakers lol
If I was in charge of anything, you would surely see me paying fines every 3 days :-D.
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like mark cuban back in the day fines?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Hell yea lol
get your moneys worth.
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better open up a tube site then
i heard they make a lotta dough these days.
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
So I've been told lol
but only a handful are lucky enough to becoming profitable from it.
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12 points and 14 rebounds for bynum at the half.
Looks like the only thing stopping this man is another injury.
not if they get Gasol with him
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
No one, but Nets fans, have questioned if he's good or not
but he does have a long list of injuries. He will surely be tested with this seasons schedule.
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what do u guys think of bynum? he’s playing out of his mind…..would the lakers trade him straight up for dwight howard? if you can get dwight howard for JUST bynum, it seems like a no brainer the lakers would do it.
doesn’t look good for us.
really, such as what?
he is beasting right now
they see that vs blo who’s hurt and picks that may or may not pan out, you know theyll take bynum
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 3, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but if portland is still down, we can get gerald wallace plus the ROTY marshon brooks and lopez in a package. not bad if you ask me.
not bad at all
again though….perception is bynum is awesome, and brook is a good scorer who is slow and goofy….we know this not to be true, but it is the perception around the league
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 3, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
seems like orlando really cares more about a name to market around than a quality player
that always seemed to me more of the reason they preferred bynum. they can market him more than b lo.
They just think they can win with Bynum, but not Lopez. That's all.
Their owner is 80 something and is unwilling to rebuild.
by Belarus4life on Jan 3, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but if it’s just bynum for dwight then that’s stupid on orlando’s part. i understand your logic though
i guess i just have such little faith in this organization
that if someone doesn’t officially happen when reports surface, its probably not going to.
we’re not the kind of team that can hold onto a “handshake deal” for several months. things like that don’t work out for us.
gut feeling – dwight will be a laker.
agreed. we would need some MAJOR upgrades over just b lopez to outshine bynum. either that or he gets hurt. i have no idea why he is blowing up the stats right now, this is like his 6th year so its very strange. i hope he just starts hot while people are getting their sea legs for the season the dips off.
well on the bright side
all the teams we’ve lost to so far are currently above .500. that means something, right?
Oh look
There’s turmoil involving a player and everyone on a Nets board thinks he’s going to the Nets.
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by calling all toasters on Jan 3, 2012 11:55 PM EST reply actions
really why is it every time a player becomes available
we all start clamoring and trying to dissect how he could fit in with our team and our moves…..newsflash, we arent getting him or anyone else for that matter
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 3, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Don't ever classify me as/with Nets fan lol
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this team is sooo bad currently constituted
we need to do something STAT- are you listening billy king!? i’ve no desire to follow any of these games. it’s been an absolute joke. it’s all talk talk talk with this management get something done!!! shelden williams and shawne williams do not cut it
he can do something by not doing anything
as in not collecting any of these scrubs he’s assembled since he’s been here
I would very much
Like to have Bynum, Lopez or Howard. GIMME SOMEONE
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:03 AM EST reply actions
its not king's fault lopez got hurt
its his fault they have no depth
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by NJ Champ on Jan 4, 2012 12:04 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Did you guys just see the reverse layup alley pop Bynum just completed?
lawd have mercy
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:07 AM EST reply actions
hmm.
if LA offers us Bynum and picks for Dwill (thats something similar to what they offered for CP3, right) do we do that if we know Dwill is probably gone?
Deal, and we also get the name "DuH gUhDeN" as well.
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are you a knicks fan???
seriously>???? dwill for jorts and shumpert thats the funniest thing ive ever read on this site
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 4, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
THAT'S the funniest? I've clearly been wasting my time here lol
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haha
let me rephrase…..craziest
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 4, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
nobody knows how far shump will go - like with MarShon
sure fun watching them matched up. hope there’s a lot more of that.
I would prefer
to receive a point guard in return, seeing as we would be royally screwed.
I would most certainly do Steph Curry + someone else for DWill
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
The logic behind the Bynum deal is
we get Bynum, move Brook to PF, draft Barnes and Teague, Sign Felton
Felton/Teague
Brooks/Morrow
Barnes/James
Lopez/ Humphries
Bynum/Petro
Wait, how the hell do we get Bynum?
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i dont know if i'd do that if i was la
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by NJ Champ on Jan 4, 2012 12:50 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
3>8 in this case lol
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yes but they might think now that with Bynum playing the way he is now that he'll finally live up to his potential.
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by NJ Champ on Jan 4, 2012 12:53 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
wow billy king
shelden williams, travis outlaw, johan petro- seriously!? billy king- this guy has been a disaster for us.
you may be right
i stand corrected it was rod the clown thorn
Correct
Plus, he has done great things for this team. Lemme list a few:
— Got D Will
— Drafted Brooks
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
just venting at this point
already frustrated with the season. TIRED OF LOSING
No excuse for inaccurate baseless rants
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by GMJigga on Jan 4, 2012 2:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol thats like the only 2
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by NJ Champ on Jan 4, 2012 12:12 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
please get your facts straight
only Shelden Williams was signed by King.
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by Net Income on Jan 4, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
2012 Draft for Dummies
Can someone give me a real quick summary of the top players in the 2012 draft? I don’t watch college ball so I don’t know whats up. Would our lottery pick be worth more or less than it was in 2011? What’s the talent like? Top players?
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:09 AM EST reply actions
good bigs
but raw
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Who would you say are the top 5 players?
I wanna go YouTube searching. lol
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
17 of the top 30 rated players are either PF or C
http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Top-100-Prospects
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Thanks homie!
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
D-Will, MarShon, Lopez, tons of cap space, top 5 pick and possibly the rockets pick…
That looks as good as getting Dwight.
Don’t know why everyone is saying Deron would leave if we dont get D12.
"Beware the Ides of March."
Agreed
But you know the deal — Nets fans like to PANIC
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
He will leave because this team is once again based on Potential
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Ok I agree there
But I can tell you this: There is NO WAY IN HECK that BK and Prokhorov let him go for nothing. If he leaves, it will be a sign and trade OR he will be dealt at the deadline if we know Howard is not an option
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, but you underestimate how "smart" our front office is lol
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Problem is I can't imagine Williams wants to keep rebuilding every year.
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by NJ Champ on Jan 4, 2012 12:21 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Absolutely right
As you can see Deron’s behavior, he means what he says. He doesn’t play around. Yes he’s moody. But when he says he will stay, he will stay. Utah didn’t gave him that chance. They just traded the guy. Honestly, with the Nets current state, he has all the rights to demand a trade. Nets roster situation decreases dWill’s stock. To remind everyone, Dwill is a pass-first PG. He’s capable of averaging 20/10. Don’t complain if he does not score a lot ala DRose or Westbrook. I hate those fans who don’t support a player having bad nights…
OOH baby I like it rawwww
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by GMJigga on Jan 4, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Give me the Dwight or I'ma take it away
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Potential to be great
but not like the 2003 draft.
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Brook Lopez is one week closer
lol
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
I can't imagine him being ready "early February" as they said. I'd be thrilled if he
played couple games as his usual self before March 15.
by Belarus4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
LMAO
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nothing whatsover
in my most cynical moments, i see this as a way to garner fan interest…not real.
could be wrong, but i doubt it.
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oh cute!
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
So much for World Peace lol
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Oh no
Courtney Lee with a potentially BAD injury. Achilles perhaps. Sad to see.
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:22 AM EST reply actions
poor thing
always sucks to see someone get hurt like that
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by pope of lofe on Jan 4, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
I was confused at first
I’m no MD, so I can’t comment on any injuries.
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Yeah I thought he rolled his ankle
They just said it’s a right calf strain.
Meanwhile, TROY MURPHY cannot miss. Sigh
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I wish he would have made 2 open 3s for the Nets
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 4, 2012 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Nets are career killers
Players never are looked at the same way once they put on a Nets uniform lol
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LMAO Troy is great
and I thought he rolled his ankle to until I saw the replay, its like he cramped out or something popped.
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Was his calf muscle they said
Strain I believe.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Oh
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When are we going to feel good as nets fans?
Even after we got dwill last year in shocking fashion, immediately he barely played, and the entire media and anyone who follows the sport warned us that he will just bolt the nets when his contract is up……..just once i want some security as a fan and not to worry, who we’re trying to maybe possibly have a chance of getting, who we’re saving capspace for, who we’re trying to convince to stay………….dwill and the misfits is what we got now!!
willing to put money marshon is included in some silly deal later on when it becomes clear we arent getting dwight
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 4, 2012 12:35 AM EST reply actions
i agree
he’s the 1st player ive seen for the nets in ages who is a pure pure pure scorer in the true meaning of the word scorer……we have never had a guy like that……well petrovic, but in a different style
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 4, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Its quite depressing and a rollacoaster
when it comes to being a Nets fan. This franchise is just horrible, and outside of the Kidd Era, have failed.
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LOL
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NET INCOME
whats your gut feeling on 2012 2013 starting 5.
wow thats too far in advance
we’re trying to figure out the lineup from game to game now
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i know we cant even figure who the starting five will be tomorrow night
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
i feel u angelo
prob wont feel good for 5 years
cousins for DJ!!!!
straight up…might involve some picks….
if im Memphis I'd do Mayo for Cousins
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by NJ Champ on Jan 4, 2012 12:41 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I WOKE UP ONE MORNING AND READ
dwight howard requests trade to nets…..and that was the last day i felt good lol……what a tease
yup, i spend way too much time on this site, just waiting
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 4, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
It might not be Dwight or bust
this might be me being overly optimistic but if Lopez and Brooks impress Dwill enough, along with the fact that we might have a top 5 pick along with a ton of capspace might convince Dwill to stay.
Deron Williams (star)
Marshon Brooks (rising star?)
Wallace or Gallinari (we will have to overpay, but keep in mind we need to reach cap floor)
Drummond or Davis (bunch of potential)
Brook Lopez (all-star)
I think I almost prefer that too
Deron (star)
Morrow (playing like garbage)
Hedo ( big contact and old)
? (garbage, since we have no capspace)
Howard (3rd best player in the NBA behind James and Durant)
by Net3core on Jan 4, 2012 12:44 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
How about coming up with a 3rd scenario .....
With Dwight staying in Orlando the entire season and wanting to sign with the Nets , and Billy King dumping Farmar and Petro by the deadline.
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by strange-brew on Jan 4, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
I agree, it is not Dwight or bust
this team isn’t the one DWill would be committing to even if we missed out on Dwight.
We’ll have Brook back, we have our pick and we have the means to trade or sign other players. That is better than a 34yr old Dirk wjen you’re committing long term.
LOL
Fake_Prokhorov Mikhail Prokhorov
Do not necessary believe rumor of Dwight Howard trade. Is doubt that rap star from 90s is trust news source
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Lakers will probably go after some wing players
Does Kobe want another Magic big coming to steal his spotlight? If your going to get pretty much similar production from Bynum as Dwight relatively why go after the more expensive option anyway.
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if bynum keeps up this level of play, i don't think the lakers will trade him for dwight
i agree with you. i think if they add a PG or wing somehow they’re great @ the 2,4 & 5.
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by muwu on Jan 4, 2012 12:51 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Not yet, look who he's been playing against.
Petro can have 20-20 against the Rockets too
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That front court? smh
Lopez>Bynum until Bynum plays 3 straight season of consistent ball at a average+ level.
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Not defensively at alllll
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Good god, I figured out why he got 22 rebounds
the other team missed 55 shots lol. Come on people, don’t just look at the pretty stat, try to figure out the rest and stop with the ignorant talks. How C isn’t even playing and still getting bashed? Bravo
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which means he got 40% of them
pretty good
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
whats gonna be deleted
i dont see anything wrong
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by NJ Champ on Jan 4, 2012 1:04 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
True that Bynum is way over his career rebound rate
But he’s a guy that grabbed 19% of available rebounds over 54 games and 1500 minutes last year. That’s a decent enough sample size to conclude that he will always be a better rebounder than Brook, at the very least
at the rate Brook was grabbing rebounds last year anyone could a better rebounder
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Maybe I'm saying it wrong
but how often does a team miss 55 shots? Bynum grabbed 20+ rebounds tonight which is good for a C but that’s also his job. So is Hump or Love better than Bynum because they have multiple 20+ rebounding games and can score? Sometimes I just feel you guys are ready to run instead of looking back when someone yells Fire
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Been use multiple times, I have other ones too
but they are rated MA lol
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okay how many of those missed shots came from the rockets unable to score on Bynum in the paint
and how easy would the rockets have scored on brook?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
scola always killed him
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"Bynum grabbed 20+ rebounds tonight which is good for a C but that’s also his job"
You are under the impression that any center in the NBA could have grabbed 20+ boards when their opponent misses 55 shots. Not the case
Really? That team must have one hell of a Moiso C or frontcourt
If a team misses 55 shots, one if not both of your big men should have double digit rebounds. Just one game though, you can love Bynum in everyway way you want, but this doesn’t prove anything to anyone with NBA knowledge.
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So now we overrated other teams to make Bynum look nice?
We’ll see at the end of the season how this plays out, but our statement above was complete blasphemy.
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denver is talanted
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by NJ Champ on Jan 4, 2012 1:24 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Why even debate when you going to admit your fault?
Early in the season lol. Come on man, that’s all it is. If your taking so much away from a few games in a CONDENSED 66 GAME SEASON, you might be disappointed when the season ends.
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They're not a good team ONLY NOW
They were a good team last year too, with this roster. This isn’t all that surprising
Give it time, you'll quickly learn not to jump so fast
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Also, he did this beside Pau Gasol, who averages 9 rebs a game, and with Kobe grabbing 8 rebs too
6 of his rebounds were also offensive, no influence of the other team’s missed shots there
Both teams had the same 10 offensive rebounds
but only one missed 55 shots and the other missed 37. Factoring in the his team and then there team, how hard is it to get 20-20? LOL
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didnt Brook admit to playing like that last year?
and the lakers three leading rebounders tonight were 22, 8, and 8.
add to the fact that 5 of the rockets misses went out of bounds and the lakers could have had 3 double-digit rebounders tonight
whenever Dwight does 20-20 no one complains about the rest of the team not rebounding they just laud his defense
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
Its all perception
if analyst, media, and fans want a player to look great, he will look great. We got one guy hugging Bynum over a few games, so imagine what he would have been talking about if Oden or Roy would have had 3 stellar games to start off the season.
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i'm saying Bynum has always been the better rebounder and defender
if he can match just 75% of brooks offensive output then he is the superior player
and with Odom gone i dont see why he cant average 18 or so ppg this year especially if Gasol is going to play like a chump again
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 1:44 AM EST up reply actions
The Lakers have 2 7 footers
does that mean Gasol is not as good as Bynum or the other way around? Look at what Lopez has to play with in his career, and look at the load that’s been given to him to carry. Bynum is playing good now, but to say he’s better than Lopez right now is straight blasphemy. He doesn’t have the consistency or even the same load to carry as Lopez. He’s always been a 2nd or 3rd option, while Lopez has and was force to be #1 option.
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your right, lopez has been forced to be a #1 option offensively
he would really shine as the 2nd or 3rd option.
imagine something extremely witty here
Not even that, with a better team
And the perception is what makes it even funnier. If Lopez own team and fan base underrates him, what are the rest going to do? He needs to leave this team to do better else where.
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i also think it's partly due to the style of play in the NBA now
super athletic guards and wings are the difference makers. you can win a title with a center who can barely score as long as he plays great D and boards.
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and actually Brook getting all the touches is a detriment
Brook has a higher usage rate than Dwight Howard
bynum’s usage rate is lower than corey brewer and rajon rondo
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
That's because they aren't relied on as much as Lopez on the offensive end
once again, dude was force to become something he wasn’t ready for lol. You pick any other C in this league to play with the teams Lopez has played with and put in ALL FACTORS, Nets might be even worse.
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swap Bynum and Lopez
nets are still going to lose but are the Lakers still going to win?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 1:59 AM EST up reply actions
Is that a statement or a question? LOL
Either way, your right.
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sarcasm meet ambiguity
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
I'm serious, if they switch C's
you said “nets are still going to lose but are the Lakers still going to win?” Minus the “?” and you answered your own question.
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oh wait what happened in brooks 4th year?
what if he has a setback or is never fully healed and cant play fully like rookie brook again?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
pot meet kettle
Bynum has played enough to show he can continue this in the future
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
plus bynum has kobe, gasol etc players that teams focus on defensively. lopez had no one the past couple of years to take away those double teams
yeah and Bynum didnt get the touches he's getting now
Odom goes away and Bynum starts breaking out 20-20 games. Coincidence?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
not quite
bynum still doesnt have the offensive game that lopez has
Bynum knows his limits
he doesnt take 20 ft jump shots. If Lopez would focus more on on his post game maybe
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by NJ Champ on Jan 4, 2012 12:57 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
i'll take 20 and 15 on 60% FG% with solid defense
over 25 and 6 and a bunch of jumpers and porous defense
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
wouldn't say the argument is over
but Bynum sure is lookin good
by sheepareevil on Jan 4, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
Difference is the defense and rebounding tho.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
definitely
but i still wouldn’t say Bynum has the offensive skillset Brook has, and couldn’t carry an offense like Brook does. depends what you need him for, if you value defense and rebounding more than yea, he is better
Yeah would like to have seen Lopez development this year tho.
Had a little bit more of a bounce to his step it seemed.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
i duno about you guys
but im def nervous of deron leaving and takimg dwight with him to dallas…they have the space for both….df didnt like deron in that locker room last yr in finals either
Lopez plays for the Nets
The Nets suck at developing young talent.
If Brook was a laker he’d be dunking on people.
To be fair to Brook he is one of the best players at demanding the double team but no one has taught him how to pass it properly yet.
Bynum would not get a 20 20 game that easily if his doubled all game and had scrubs surrounding him.
Despite all this Brook has scored consistantly and still has plenty of room to improve.
I thought Lopez was gonna blow up this year, but he got hurt.
like 23 ppg and 10 rebs.
very unlikely coming off that injury
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by NJ Champ on Jan 4, 2012 1:07 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Doesn't matter, some can claim Bynum is better after 3 games
and other can claim Lopez is trash after 246 straight games.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 4, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
time will tell whos better
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It really will
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 4, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Is it good thing or bad thing for Nets?
i’m lost in thoughts if Bynum will play like that maybe LA wont trade him but than again you never know?
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 4, 2012 1:13 AM EST reply actions
I think its good
Buss drafted Bynum. I think he’d get more satisfaction out of a homegrown talent
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by NJ Champ on Jan 4, 2012 1:16 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
lets hope
i think Buss will keep his draft
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 4, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
It only counts if Lopez doesn't. Lopez can't do this and that, yet the big man that plays for a good team is now the greatest thing since slice bread after 3 games?
keep poking the balloon, and eventually it will burst.
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If you're LA you still trade Bynum, especially when he's hot like this
He still has an injury history, you can’t ignore that. If you can get Howard, you do it
dude its 3 games
of course you trade him
by Claud on Jan 4, 2012 1:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah D12 had 20/20 as well
and he didnt had Kobe out there
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 4, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
Dwight Howard's missed 7 games in 8 years
Bynum could average a 20 and 20 going into the trade deadline and I’d still deal him for Dwight.
by shane gayle on Jan 4, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and it's not like Bynum is THAT young
he’s only two years younger than Dwight.
he's 24, thats young enough.
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions
XD He's a good C
but you have to look at ALL the factors which many aren’t here. I have a funny feeling some here would actually buy magic jelly beans if they say a colorful flower.
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and we may be saying that about Lopez's foot after this season
injuries are a part of the game. its not like bynum is trying to get injured or is some lazy bum like Curry or Baron or T-mac who begged for career-threatening injuires
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 1:53 AM EST up reply actions
true
7 footers are physical freaks of society. pituitaries gone wild. the fact they have to run around with some of the most elite athletes in the world makes all of them injuries waiting to happen
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Shaq was the greatest mystery IMO
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he was
he knew how to pace himself though. a lot of his critics called him out as lazy but i think if he pushed much harder he would’ve started to break down a lot earlier than he did.
its easy to forget how dominant he was in his prime
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Yup, sometimes players actually do know how to take care of there bodies
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I mean in comparison to Dwight
It’s not like we’re comparing a grizzled vet to a 19 year old rookie. With his injury history, i’d say Bynum’s body will start to show signs of aging way before Dwight Howard’s will
how so? he plays under the rim and never was much of a running big man
as long as he maintains lateral quickness to recover on help defense he will be fine
and a foot injury can be worse than a knee injury especially for 300 lb big men
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 1:55 AM EST up reply actions
I mean, the evidence speaks for itself.
BYNUM
49 games – season 1
82 games – season 2
35 games – season 3
50 games – season 4
65 games – season 5
54 games – season 6
82 games – season 1
82 games – season 2
82 games – season 3
82 games – season 4
79 games – season 5
82 games – season 6
78 games – season 7
been in the lague two years longer then lopez
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Every thread turns into a Dwight thread, team is interested in another player , people here talk about how the team can add said player to a dwight deal, come on enough with Dwight already…
Everyone is entitled to my opinion
outside of marshon brooks
is there anything else to really talk about with this team? our two starting big men are injured. deron williams is sleep-walking through entire halves of games. all of our shooters are failing at the one thing they do well. dwight’s all we got.
Have you seen the Nets play lately? Dwight is a much more interesting topic.
usual non dwight topics are
Fre Avery
D-Will is gone
D-Will is not a superstar
Bring back Devin harris
Fire Avery
i think devin harris and favors
have a better record than we do post the dwill trade no?
wolves never rest
thus far,
the best performance ive seen at prudential center was the
MUSE concert.
wolves never rest
seton hall kicked butt tonight. man does UCONN stink
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 4, 2012 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
can someone start a Game of Thrones
thread so we can think of things other than the hopes of Dwight
and our abysmal roster
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LOL watch this!
It’s the Hawks’ feed and all you hear is Dominique Wilkins saying how great MarShon is
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At 3:57
I’m the guy in the baby blue long sleeve shirt first pumping lol. The brown skin dude.
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i have seen Petro like 8 time’s this year one on one vs rim and he still somehow got blocked
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 4, 2012 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
Why you don't love Deron? It only 6 games, it will find itself(himself). We don't appreciate that we have. Lopez too concerns.
I don't speak English
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No to Cousins
Sorry attitude, one of the least efficient players in the NBA.
by J-Nasty on Jan 4, 2012 2:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Not looking good for the Nets
Bynum’s getting the 20-22 points we expect from Lopez and he’s not even the focus of the LA offense. Bynum can also get 8 rebounds in his sleep that we’re hoping from Lopez in a good year. Bynum could easily have a 20 and 12 season the way he’s going. It’s been only 3 games but who expects Lopez to put up the same 23 and 17 in that stretch.
His previous health issues remain a concern but LA only needs Bynum to be healthy at least through the mid-March trade deadline. Not looking good for the Nets.
Why?
……would the Lakers trade him for Howard if he keeps this up and stays healthy? I have read that the Laker owners LOVE Bynum
LA would still definitely trade Bynum for Howard
It’s Dwight Howard, who’s still on another level. A 20 and 12 season will be great for Bynum but Howard’s been a regular 20-22 and 14-15 guy and the league’s best defensive player.
If anything, LA is trying to make the case that Bynum should be enough, that they don’t have to send Gasol too.
Someone needs to ask Howard first.
Not so sure that Howard would want to go to LA any more. The glamor of LA may not be enough.
Howard would be a failure if he didn’t win a championship in his first season.
And even if he did, he would be behind Shaq, Chamberlain, Kareem and Magic.
If Howard doesn’t agree to stay on in LA, then LA won’t make any trade for Howard.
And what are the chances Bynum makes it to early March without his knees acting up?
That is why ORL would insist on Gasol + Bynum.
its LA
Howard does need to verbally agree he’ll stay in LA for the Lakers to feel comfortable about trading Bynum. While we would hope Brooklyn is his only preferred destination, the fact is Howard has authorised trade talks with three possible destinations, and that includes LA. Once he’s traded to LA, he’ll be sucked into the glamor of the franchise and of course, they can offer more contract money, not to mention a similar if not greater potential for endorsements as Brooklyn. Don’t want to wish ill on anybody but only an injury could tarnish Bynum’s value now.
ZERO chance LA would risk giving away talent without a guarantee Howard would stay.
And if LA was only offering Bynum, then NETS package would be much better, once Lopez was back.
Nets offering Lopez + Gerald Wallace(obtained with picks) + Morrow + Okur and taking back bad contracts.
Its Byum+Gasol or LA can forget about getting Howard.
Nets fans are the only people who put lopez over bynum...
It’s cool to be bias and root for your guy over another. But we have to be smart minded basketball fans. How could the Magic be sold on lopez with bynum doing what he is doing?
The key to getting howard will not be lopez. It will be Marshon Brooks. If he continues to show that the can be a prolific scorer in the league, Orlando will want to deal with the nets. A package of Marshon, Lopez, and our 2012 (which is going to be a good one given our record), is far more attractive than Andrew Bynum.
Orlando will hold out til the last minute to do this deal. Why? so the nets can keep losing. The more the nets lose, the better the 2012 draft pick will be.
Before the injury to Lopez, it was reasonable.
And if Bynum’s knees act up again, I can see Lopez being more valuable than Bynum once again, come early March, when it counts.
Lopez is not more valuable because he has never put up numbers impressive for his position...
The lack of rebounding and toughness is a turn-off to teams. When talking about lopez, it’s always about potential…
Knowedgeable people (Otis), know that Lopez is an 8 rebound/game person (been there/done that), with upside to get 10+ rebounds as his 14 rebounds in preseason.
Knowledgeable people know why he did poorly this past season: Mono, lack of chance for conditioning, HUMP getting all the boards, lack of a DWill to push him, and calcium deposits in his arm, that hurt on contact.
Lopez was SOFT, but with the ability to be as tough as his brother. If you combined the best of Robin+Brook, you have the 2nd best center in the NBA.
But Brook will only have 1 month to prove himself. We shall see.
Knowledgeable people realize you just made a million excuses for 1 player...
Mono, calcium deposits, Hump stole his boards (that has alwas ween the most lame excuse), lack of dwill pushing him… Are you serious? You are a million dollar paid proessional athlete and you need another man to push you?
Lopez is not a bad player. He is a decent-good one. But his ability is not attractive enough to get Howard. The "knowledgeable"people you speak of know that. that’s why we don’t have Howard. The “knowledgeable” people you speak of like sportscasters, writers and former NBA commentators know that because they say it.
Not excuses. He proved he can get 8+ rebounds/game already in his Rookie season.
Healthy players like Lopez don’t regress. Its not possible.
And 8 rebounds a game is not attractive enough...
Not for Dwight Howard who is a rebounding, shot blocking maniac…
Bynum is overrated b/c he's on a good team
like Lopez in underrated b/c he’s on a bad one. It’s easy to put up 15ppg when teams are doubling Kobe and Pau, especially when Artest (I’m not calling him, a very violent man, World Peace) and Odom are on the floor too. Bynum never gets doubled – FACT
Lopez will prove to be a 20/10 guy on a team that actually has other threats, and some chemistry.
Bynum is also playing as a guy who just came back from a 1 week vacation on a team of old guys in a crazy schedule. His numbers will even out, especially when he gets injured again, and he will, with his body, increased minutes, and increased games per week.
And besides, even IF Bynum continues like he is AND somehow manages to stay healthy for the 1st time in his career, then LA is NOT going to trade him.
Bynum is also overrated b/c he's on a popular team
I’ve heard the media talk soooo much about JJ Hickson and sooo little about Brook Lopez. Why???
Lopez>>>>>>>>>>Hickson!!!
Only b/c Hickson played on the Cavs with Lebron, so everyone saw him play much more. And also Lebron made him look good, like many mediocre players look on a team with a superstar (Varejao, Mo Williams, Sasha Pavlovich, ‘Boobie’ Gibson’) Yet anyone who has seen both players play regularly knows Lopez is head and shoulders better, yet doesn’t get any credit b/c he’s on the Nets.
Lopez + Cousins + Hump front court.
That is what M I K E and I were calling for 1 1/2 years ago.
Cousins could get time at PF / Backup Center (once Brook comes back).
However Rod Thorn said that Cousins was a “Stone Cold Five”.
Now if we could trade Petro + Morrow for Cousins + 2015 1st round pick, that would be a no brainer.
How long after trading for Cousins could he be traded to Orlando?
If Cousins did well with Nets, his value could be > Bynum.
Teams with mobile and quick PF's would kill the Nets
Cousins and Lopez are too slow to play that position
And Nets would KILL those teams on Offense.
Nets still have Hump and Shawne or DJames to defend against those few cases, if needed.
And Cousins is even more mobile than he was 1 1/2 years ago.
He is in great shape.
He was guarding Guards in college and stealing the ball from them. I think he can handle PFs.
Meawhile, Andrew Bynum is going HAM.
At least I can smile about it because he is on my fantasy team.
I think it's fine.
Would SAC trade Cousins to a Western Division Team?
If SAC was limited to the East, that would help Nets chances of getting him without sacrificing Howard trade.
How about Morrow (or Farmar) + Sheldon + 2015 1st round pick for Cousins.
i dont want to trade mashon, i want him to be the star of the team
´bring cousins and josh smith next free agency and it will be
williams
brooks
smith
hump
cousins
trade lopez
Love has totally inflated numbers
much like David Lee with the Knicks, he stands around on defense waiting to get rebounds and has too much of a jump-shooting perimeter game. Don’t get me wrong, he’s really good, but he’ll never be the best player on a championship team, and he has no post game.
I Lopez can start putting up 10rpg, I’d rather have Lopez
I can't say that I blame Cousins too much
Yes he’s a headcase, but currently he’s stuck on a team that’s being build around the perimeter with basketball black holes in Evens, Thornton, and Jimmer. He’s only in his 2nd year, and it seems like he’s going to have to fight for a 50%rebounding percentage if he ever wants to touch the ball on offense and show the rest of the league what he can do.
Even if he wasn’t a head case, most guys in his place would probably feel miserable being a potentially dominant big man on a team of ball hogs
The Kings, like the Magic, will wait until the trade deadline
when the offers become better.
If Howard is traded to LA, I can see the Nets going hard after Cousins with the package they have minus Lopez (or Brooks). Maybe Morrow and a couple of picks or something close to, but not as much as, the earlier package for Gerald Wallace.
Looking ahead, if the Howard project fails at the trade deadline, just based on talent and potential, a Cousins-Lopez frontcourt would still be nice. We could still try to retain DWill and extend Lopez, and get another big-salary player to further complement that Twin Towers as Cousins would still be on rookie contract. That could still be a pretty good team.
maybe not
Manny Ramirez wanted a new contract despite Boston owning 2 option years on his deal. So Manny started acting like a total ass, giving minimal effort and faking injuries until he got his wish.
Cousins has the potential (to be just as big of an ass as Manny). And he could be a case of addition by subtraction
We've seen this movie before
Cousins reminds me of Zach Randolph the sequel. They guy has the talent to potentially be one of the best in the league at his position. Attitude problems hold him back & make him almost cancerous to a locker room. Teams will pay him & keep taking chances on him. Eventually he’ll grow up & realize his potential, but how far down the line will that be?
fyi
its easier to put up good stats on a bad team being the 1st option than on a great team being the 3rd option.. examples: chris bosh ave goes down, while you look at kevin love, b.lopez, boozer, etc.. to think that lopez>bynum haha.. the only argument lopez has is his health, and now look whos playing.. :)
by letsgolal on Jan 4, 2012 11:45 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
my preference would be
to have lopez and cousins and our #1 this year over Dwight
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