Billy King: Send Me Andre Iguodala; Don't Need Dwight to Keep Deron
by Net Income on Jan 26, 2012 12:41 AM EST
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PrintIn interviews on Philadelphia radio and TV, Billy King talked about a player he drafted back in 2004, Andre Iguodala, and one he wants to keep in 2013, Deron Williams.
"Andre’s a player that every good team would want, because he defends, he handles the ball. If they don’t want him, send him up the turnpike, I’ll take him," King told Michael Barkann and Ike Reese on 94 WIP. Iguodala has two more years, including this one, plus a player option, on his contract.
King also talked about Williams telling WIP, "I look for Deron to be with us for a very long time." In a separate interview with Comcast Sports Net, King was asked if he has to acquire Dwight Howard to keep Williams.
"No, that's not true," said King. "Deron and I have a good relationship. He knows we're going to get better next year. We have cap flexibility. We have draft picks. We chose not to sign guys long term to give ourselves flexibility going into the off-season next year. We'll get Brook back and we'll be pretty good this year.
"I know it's the big elephant in the room where Deron stands but I feel pretty comfortable about it," he added before offering this about the trade deadline, "You got to be aggressive. l like to take chances. So I'll do that."
- Nets General Manager Billy King Wants Andre Iguodala - Spike Eskin - CBS Philly
- Billy King Interview (Audio) - Michael Barkann & Ike Reese - WIP Sports
- Billy King Interview (Video) - Dei Lynam - Comcast Sports Net Philly
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They've stolen the MacDonald's tag line
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
That's right, we're more like McDowell's
by eopanther8 on Jan 26, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol just as long as the let their Souuuuuuul Glow
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 26, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Can we not say this 100 times in a thread
Its annoying already
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Jan 26, 2012 9:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
you don't love it?
Official Member of DO NOT TRADE MARSHON Society!
To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
id trade lopez and there 1st rd pick for iggy, if dwight comes in the off season
by Jeffrey Sutton on Jan 26, 2012 12:47 AM EST reply actions
yes way
I’d do this in a heartbeat. I LOVE Lopez but when you have Dwight, a SF who can defend and do the glue work would be such a good piece. I love Iggy
by sheepareevil on Jan 26, 2012 2:56 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Trading an up & coming center for a small forward?
A recipe for disaster.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
They will need somebody to guard LeBron
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
I don't see it as a recipe for disaster
If you could somehow sign Howard, trade for Iguodala and re-sign Hump:
Williams
Brooks
Iguodala
Humphries
Howard
There’s more than enough firepower on offense and that team would be incredible defensively. I don’t see how this is a bad lineup.
by ZR on Jan 26, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
Hump will have to be renounced
In order to have the cap space to sign Howard.
This
Hump will have to be renounced in order to have the cap space to sign Howard.
Unless you value the fantasy of D12 more than what’s real. Lopez and Hump specifically is putting in work for the team NOW.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Absolutely not
Iggy is great but on a terrible contract. Lopez is a 23 year old center and it would be sacrilege to trade him for a wing that is starting to pass his prime.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
BK is mostly complementing himself with his remark.
Phila. isn’t going to trade him this season.
He did a fantastic job
and seems off to a good start here as well. The man knows what to look for when drafting talent, or maybe he just is good at reading his peers and can spot when everyone is being stubborn and underrating a player.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
Iggy would be a nice third piece
Very good perimeter defender that can do a bunch of things very well.
Follow me on Twitter @R0nito
The Nets are one of the worst perimeter defending teams in the NBA
Iguodala would fill a huge void.
by ZR on Jan 26, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
Is that really a surprise though?
Deron isn’t playing at an elite level on defense for now, Brooks is still learning, Stevenson is hurting and playing out of position, Morrow and Williams are slow and can’t guard the perimeter…
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Except it's pretty much one or the other with Dwight and Iggy
Because of the contracts it’s not worth it.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
The team can upgrade perimeter defense through the draft imo
Post play is more important.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
If Dwight doesn't work out, I'd love to have Iggy.
Deron
MarShon
Iggy
Hump
Brook
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"I’m anxious to see if they make the same mistake twice." - Shaq talking about the Magic.
thatst a pipe dream unless Iggy takes a paycut
but i hope B King and Proky will spend
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 26, 2012 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
if we don't get Dwight, why would it be a pipe dream?
We could afford him with no Dwight
You give me that and pass on Dwight
Okur, James and our pick for Iggy.
by Zartan on Jan 26, 2012 1:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
James is not tradeable right now.
Would the Nets take back a guy with a brokeb foot?
maybe
he is an expiring, although not a big one
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
by Taylor Made on Jan 26, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
no way Philly breaks up their core this year
It’s gotten them the farthest they’ve been since Iverson
by sheepareevil on Jan 26, 2012 2:57 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
And they could look better at the end of the season
when teams with little depth like the Heat, Clippers, and Knicks are REALLY run down (yeah it’s going to get worse in DUH MECCAHHH).
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
I want to see what Damion can do first. Damion is bigger, stronger and better rebounder than Iggy.
And is getting paid about 1/10 the salary.
Damion is hopeful to return this season:
@KONJames10 Damion James
@alexisbrit I might not b out for the season! Nobody knows! We will c how the rehab go! Got faith!
24 Jan via Echofon
He is still a Nets player. He wasn't waived.
What is wrong with hoping he can play again, by late March? Eight weeks is long enough to recover from the surgery, if 6-8 weeks is long enough for Brook Lopez for a fracture AND installing a screw
There is something not being told about why Billy King says DJames is out for the season.
Maybe it makes it easier for BK to Not extend James without feeling guilty.
Hopefully DJames value will be low enough, that another team won’t want him.
If healthy, and the extra 1.3 million isn’t critical, DJames will be back.
by jerry25 on Jan 26, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
nothing wrong with hoping
But at this point we have to move on from James, and expect nothing from him realistically
by sheepareevil on Jan 26, 2012 2:59 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Do we have to offer him at least $1.3 million?
I thought we declined the option making him a free agent. We would probably sign him for less, I would imagine.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
I never said he was better than Iggy, but DJames IS younger.
Iggy was a bad offensive player when he started out, too.
Iggy was considered a potential All Star in his early years.
Damion, if healthy, may be better than any Nets SF in years (not saying much).
Iggy is making 10x what DJames is getting and Iggy would be expensive to get.
Comparing Damion James to Andre Iguodala is like apples and oranges
The only bad part about Andre Iguodala has nothing to do with his game, it’s his contract. If Damion James can’t stay healthy, he can’t be relied on. Time to move on if need be.
he is also 1/100 the ball handler or catcher iggy is
by JJ_22 on Jan 26, 2012 1:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
uhhh
Official Member of DO NOT TRADE MARSHON Society!
To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
by 3ptChucker on Jan 26, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Avery's quote about Brook Lopez' return:
According to the timetable the team originally released after the Dec. 23 surgery, Lopez should be another 1-3 weeks away.
Not happening. Its in his hands,
He will say screw the organization that is not in his favor
by SunilP on Jan 26, 2012 5:26 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Get that screw removed, doctors of today are fools.
Screws should not be inserted into anyone’s foot. I no doctor but I understand logic. If you use plates and screws to stabilize an injury, fine but don’t drill a hole into bone and insert a screw, the area will crack.
by Zartan on Jan 26, 2012 11:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Have to be smart here
Give it two weeks to be safe. Nets could make the playoffs if they keep this up.
by ZR on Jan 26, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
We're two games back
with our next two at Cleveland and against Toronto. These are HUGE games for us. We win both and we are in play for the eighth seed without Brook and all the other injuries. This team is not nearly as bad as people have been making it out to be.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
I saw the potential last season when the Nets beat up on Boston at home. Lopez is most important to this team’s success and I want him back ASAP. However, just want to make sure he’s healthy and able bodied so there are no setbacks, especially with trade discussions for Howard about to heat up again in the coming months.
Great point. Arguably the hottest topic know ones talking about
by iamabeefcake on Jan 26, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
I know, it's crazy isn't it?
All these “Fire Avery” posts and yet Morrow, Farmar, and Humphries are all having career years and Brooks has been a sensation.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Thats because of the underachieving
We lost a few game we should have won. We were getting blown out not even competing. This was mostly Avery not knowing how to rotate players. Someone dribbles the ball off their foot , substitution. Your not allowed to save face and the next time you get playing time, your thinking about dribbling off your foot.
by Zartan on Jan 26, 2012 11:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i wonder how the lack of contract extension will affect lopez's play
by JJ_22 on Jan 26, 2012 1:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lopez has played through bigger distractions
As disney as he is, the dude’s a trooper
by sheepareevil on Jan 26, 2012 3:00 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hopefully not at all
All Billy has to do is ask Brook if he wants more money and more years. It makes more sense for both parties to wait until the team figures out what to do this offseason.
Sorry, Wrong quote from Avery:
"With Brook in my mind I’m always telling them, give me a conservative return date," Johnson said. "So in my mind, it’s March 1. So if it happens before that, surprise me. I don’t want anybody to tell me it’s going to be Feb. 20 and then it’s the 27th."
give him time to heal, he deserves it.
Also I really don’t see the magic giving up Howard. They seem to want to take one more run and try and persuade Howard into resigning. A healthy Lopez, Deron, and Brooks would look very appealing in Free agency. Plus if Brook comes back playing strong, why would Dwill and Dwight even consider Dallas, with all the talent NJ has they would be an instant super team.
With no contract extension, I'd be very surprised if Brook rushed back until he is at or near 100%
by SovietBrooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
Godd i want to see him healthy
with or without D 12 i still going to give B Lo his props he best Offensive C in the game
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 26, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
I Dwight becomes free agent...
I don’t have any rush to put Lopez on the floor… that means a better lotto pick.
2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!
Why does everyone think Brook is pist about not having a contract extension?
And that he is going to screw the organization? I’m sure he expected when he got hurt, it’s not like he’s leaving the Nets. People need to relax, this is how the NBA works under the new CBA.
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
I doubt one. Let him get healthy first please
WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap
by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
dwills dunk on the sportscenter intro. Respect!
by KillaHoose on Jan 26, 2012 1:03 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Acquire Dwight first
Then you’ll know what the cap situation is and who’s still on the team.
by ZR on Jan 26, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
no way Lakers will trade bynum, he's a beast!
by KillaHoose on Jan 26, 2012 1:04 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
ORL wouldn't take Bynum straight up anyway.
Also, ORL needs to see Bynum play until March 10, to see if his knees can hold up.
Our owner asked us "what's that jacket?"
I’m asking: “what’s tampering?” I thought you can’t talk about guys under contract.
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
Nevermind, that was kanyeezy. Still, does this not qualify as tampering?
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
by GMJigga on Jan 26, 2012 2:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think so
It was a general compliment about a player, saying that anyone would want him. Pretty sure people say that about Kobe every week.
Clearly it is borderline
Saying you want a player who is on another team has been seen as tampering in the past and he said “send him up the turnpike”
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 26, 2012 9:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
listening to these announcers makes me want to puke...so biased towards lakers way to be fair
by netsyankees4life on Jan 26, 2012 1:08 AM EST reply actions
they're absurd
and so damn smug
makes me appreciate our guys that much morew
Isn't it the Laker's announcers calling the game? They ARE the home team, afterall.
Besides, it is better for the pursuit of Howard, if the Lakers win and are satisfied with their present team.
You guys serious?
The Lakers commentating crew, especially Stu is awesome.
Definitely top 5 in the league.
by vincecarter4pres on Jan 26, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
no seriously Lantz and Mcdonald are some of the most natural commentators
seriously sound like they are hanging at the bar or going through a round of 18 on the green when they call games
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 26, 2012 1:58 AM EST up reply actions
lol sort of like farmar thinks hes playing on HOF mode in 2k12 and your teamates cant make a shot
by netsyankees4life on Jan 26, 2012 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
i'm telling you man he deserves no apologists
tonight was the epitome of a microcosm of his career.
shows flashes of being a Luke Ridnour/Ramon Sessions level player then he looks like Acie Law and Marcus Williams 10 minutes later
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 26, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
Not a fan of the Clips. Yeah their fun to watch but nice n ezy fellas. The Lakers are still the owners of the Staples Center.
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Jan 26, 2012 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
I love Chris Paul, but man he's a *****!
Just disgusting how often and how theatrically he flops.
by vincecarter4pres on Jan 26, 2012 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
And D Jordan thinks hes the godfather of that team comin to everyones rescue after some chatter
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Jan 26, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
That's like a unwritten rule for a Center when the little folk get in tussles lol
"I love my Ducks (wait 'til you see my O)"
can you blame him for all the trash he had to play with in NO?
I’d be trying to do whatever to win games to if i had Okafor, Peja, Julian Wright, Jannero Pargo, and Rasual Butler as my supporting cast
wonder what they would look like if they kept Bayless, Collison, and Thornton?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 26, 2012 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
Bynum is trash his stats just fluke
i want to see him play on a bad team where he cant hide
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 26, 2012 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
ESPN NBA – Report: Hornets G Eric Gordon turns down 4-year extension to become restricted free agent
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 26, 2012 2:05 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
can anyone recognize what teams hat that is?
by netsyankees4life on Jan 26, 2012 2:13 AM EST reply actions
Deron seems like he'd be
a great dad.
Btw people, yea, all the DWill haters.. where you at now!?
Ready to throw the guy under a bus cause he was playing poorly. Yall couldn’t see that he was just going through a funk.. SMH.. This guy is serious. SERIOUS!
Listen to yourself
We were ready to throw him under a bus because he was playing poorly. Have you seen the hell we give LeBron for not showing up in the 4th qtr of playoff games? Derons the star, you dont get to play poorly!
by Zartan on Jan 26, 2012 11:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
you can't expect last night's performance every single night
not even kobe plays like that night in and night out
and since it obviously won’t happen every single night, why splatter the board with hate for our star?
i just finished watching this game vs 6's
Our trasition D was improving big time but this game we had great anticipations. Great games by D Will Hump and Ammo but Farmar played for his stats trade that scrub
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 26, 2012 2:19 AM EST reply actions
didnt mean to flag lol i will repay you by recing
by netsyankees4life on Jan 26, 2012 3:24 AM EST up reply actions
he can be there if
D12 comes via free agency…dream never die’s
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 26, 2012 3:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lol, never saw you use it.
It’s kind of obvious considering it includes 4 players and it’s an extremely popular comic with a couple movie adaptations.
It’s not exactly an original thought. Kind of an obvious one.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 26, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Who are we gonna get to convince Deron to stay if not Dwight though?
Many people will of course say “Kevin Love!” “Eric Gordon!” but both are restricted free agents, so no matter what you offer them their teams can match that. You know the Timberwolves will, and does anyone really want Eric Gordon when he could become Brandon Roy in 1-2 years?
Ray Allen and KG are old, Antawn Jamison is horrible defensively, Jason Terry doesn’t really fill a need, Michael Beasley is a headcase and inefficient gunner, Ryan Anderson and Roy Hibbert are RFAs who will likely get matched, Nicolas Batum is also an RFA, Marcus Camby is not getting any younger and less injury prone
But I think there might be some attainable targets:
JaVale McGee if the Wizards don’t want to commit money to a guy that is basically the image of what they’re trying to get away from. With veterans like Deron and DeShawn to lay down the law, he can get his head on straight. Highly doubtful they let him go though
Gerald Wallace could opt out to get the last big contract of his career, and seeing as to how Portland also has to deal with the Batum situation, he could go somewhere else.
JJ Hickson and Jason Thompson are not necessary pieces in the Kings’ very crowded frontcourt
Marcus Camby despite being old and being a lock to miss a ton of games, can still get some stuff done
Robin Lopez is not a guy the Suns HAVE to bring back
Brandon Bass might want to cash in on a good season by opting out
Ronny Turiaf is a nice tough guy
Anthony Tolliver is an underrated player, good defensively and is a nice stretch big man
Carlos Delfino has some real skills
OJ Mayo might be had
Chris Kaman can be had
Courtney Lee could be had
Despite their age, I’d still probably make a run at KG, Allen, and Jamison
With Dwight or no Dwight, I would love to sign Tolliver.... you think like me...
He’s an underrated player, and I wanted the Nets to sign him, instead of Outlaw two summers ago. He’s a really good defender at SF and PF and can hit the 3, that’s the fundamental skills to be a good role player.
2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!
Btw. Amazing game by Deron
When his shot is falling he is unstoppable. He has to stay committed to the mid range game Nd some of those passes were so crisp and refreshing. I was really pleased with last nights play, he actually has been playing much better these past couple of games. Even against DRose I thought he did a good job of getting his shot off on a pretty good defender.
Also the ball movement really makes us look like a real NBA team.
The past 3 games, Deron has been shooting at, or close to, 50%:
8-17 vs CHA (W)
7-14 @CHI (L)
14-28 @PHI (W)
= 29-59 for 49%
Hopefully his upward shooting trend keeps up. I was worried when Deron started 2-8 in Philly but he shot 12-20 the rest of the game.
by stenpoint on Jan 26, 2012 7:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Go away Damion James, no one wants you back
For all of you James homers take a look at his horrid stats
4.9 PPG
4.7 RPG
37.1 % FG
6.45 PER
24.3 Min
Take out the 1st game vs Washington where he had 14 boards and he averaged 2.71 RPG in those other 6 games
Just to give you perspective on how bad James is here are the stats for someone who started 28 games for the Nets last season
4.8 PPG
3.4 RPG
42% FG
24.6 Min
These are Stephen Graham’s numbers as a starter for the Nets last season. They scored about the same but Graham did so more efficently on 42% shooting as opposed to 37.1%. Graham also rebounded better if you throwout the washington game 3.4 to James 2.71.
GrahaMVP > James.
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 26, 2012 6:47 AM EST reply actions
I'm not a huge Damion fan but stats don't mean anything he's been hurt
How can a player get into a rhythm when he isn’t playing?
James can be a solid rotation player off the bench
He’s had no time to really get comfortable in the NBA.
by ZR on Jan 26, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
He was playing hurt.
Not saying much, but if healthy he is better than any SF Nets have had in years.
Not saying much, but if healthy he is better than any SF Nets have had in years.
Thats like being the tallest midget. Just because the Nets draft someone doesnt mean they get my undying loyalty like most people on this blog. We still have people on here that will defend CDR, TWill, Boone, Swat, etc. Add James and JWill to the list of draft picks that will never be anyone.
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 26, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILkkpMEzlZY&feature=related
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
I like Iggy, great team player...
But not with that contract and certainly not over Dwight.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jan 26, 2012 7:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
If we get Dwight on td
And Billy wants iggy bad then we should trade
Marshon
Hump
Farmar
For
Iggy
Lou Williams???
by OFWGKTA AustralAsian on Jan 26, 2012 7:10 AM EST reply actions
I LOVE IT
BK: We don’t need Dwight to keep Deron
Translation: Orlando will not get a deal like Denver got. We have Deron and Dwight in the pocket.
I may the the only one
Im sure we can offer Beasley something if he healthy. HE is pretty good when healthy.
by meeks973 on Jan 26, 2012 7:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Billy King basically admitted we were getting Dwight
In the Mike and Ike interview he alludes to the fact that if Lopez hadnt went down we were getting Dwight. Which is why he brought in 3pt shooters such as Swill.
Lopez injury may be a blessing in disquise, if Dwight makes it to FA and we dont have to trade Brook that is my dream.
by power_njerz on Jan 26, 2012 7:30 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
So now that it seems that everyone has jumped off the crazy train
Can we go back to saying:
1) DWill is one of the best PGs in the NBA
2) He understands it is all about the big picture, and this season doesn’t matter, so there is no reason to get riled up about his play or every little thing he says
3) It still sucks for the fans because this team is really garbage as is, and I for one am sick of waiting for something to happen, but supposedly it will all be “worth it” when we get Dwight or some other free agent.
by SadNetsFan on Jan 26, 2012 7:35 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don't think anyone ever said he wasn't a top PG
I remember saying he wasn’t a top 5 Player which I still think is true. Also people were saying he’s playing bad because Lopez isn’t there ( which I thought was bull). He was in a mental slump, seems he’s coming out of it
A ton of people said he wasn’t a top PG.
A ton of people said he wasn’t a superstar.
You should look back and read the comments from even a week ago. It’s ridiculous.
A top point guard I have NEVER seen someone say that (I could have missed that)
I do remember seeing he’s not a superstar, but that all depends on what you view as a superstar. He is Elite no doubt, super star is up for debate, out of the top guys in the league he’s not well known to the casual BBall fan
what posts have you been reading?
People were saying that deron is just a good player and not a great player.
People were debating whether deron was a top 10 player not a top five. He is a top ten player by the way.
I read comments saying that he wasn’t even a top five PG
The dwill bashing was out of control and kind of sad really.
Also I read some exaggereated comments like he is garbage, a dog, overated, a cancer, a product of sloan’s system etc…it was pretty bad
I remember some people here calling Deron a scrub and meaning it
That was when Deron was bringing 18 and 8 and shooting 37%. He now rounds off to 19 and 9 and 39% so maybe they change their tune lol.
Idk I can only speak for myself
I never said he was trash ( I know you are speaking in general) I did say he was playing like Garbage and his attitude was sickening. He is a top10 player I dnt think he’s top 5 tho.
I called him a clown and said he's playing like trash.
Was I wrong. Great game for him , we won. That’s how we do in BK. you don’t show up, go home.
by Zartan on Jan 26, 2012 11:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Someone was trying to get into it with me that DWill wasn't a Top 10 player
And Dirk and Blake Griffin are. Don’t remember who.
I hope this performance proves otherwise to those doubters.
by ZR on Jan 26, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
It's sad that it takes an overwhelmingly dominant performance to satisfy some fans
Ot was a beautiful thing to watch though. Made me remember why I love the Nets, deron Williams, and basketball in general.
That S.Will three pointer was hilarious as well
We don't want dominant
We want the guy we traded some substantial pieces to get, show up! Are we asking too much ? Let me know so I’ll stop.
by Zartan on Jan 26, 2012 11:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sure that he's a top-10 player.
I thought he was prior to this season, but things change.
As of now, I don’t have him in the top-ten.
DWill isnt a top 10 player
I remember you saying he was not top 10 but didn’t kno who to put in front of him
1.Bron
2.Howard
3.Durant
4.Kobe
5.Wade
6.Paul
7.Nowitski
8.Melo
9.Westbrook – Do you remember how he dominated DWill? I do
10.Love
11. Griffin
12. LMA
DWill fall in at about 13-16 with Rondo, Zach Randolph, Pau Gasol
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 26, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Disagree with your list, but agree with your sentiment.
(I think Westbrook is better than Williams.)
Umm...
Where is Rose? Love should be higher. Some people feel Dwill is better than Paul. I for one think that Deron is going to have the longer career.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Opps I knew I forgot someone
Bron
Howard
Durant
Rose
Kobe
Wade
Paul
Nowitski
Melo
Westbrook
Love
Griffin
LMA
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
You can Put him ahead of Blake, Melo Dirk and I think he is clearly better than Rondo and Pau
U left out Rose
Those guys are go getters every night.
by Zartan on Jan 26, 2012 11:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Westbrook put any argument to bed that Dwill is better last week
On offense Westbrook got whatever he wanted but that’s not saying much since DWill plays mediocre defense.
On defense is where Westbrook surprised me. He locked DWill down to the point where DWill couldnt run the offense.
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 26, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Did you see him in the playoffs?
Cause I’ve seen both and I know which would I want on my team come playoff time right now.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
???
Did you see him in the year before last, when he carried the Thunder as Durant got shut down? His 2010 playoff campaign was better than any one Deron has ever had. (The sample size for Westbrook’s playoff numbers is too small to do a full-scale comparison.)
Your serious? Westbrook in 09 playoffs was better than Deron in that same year?
Deron was talked about as THE best PG that year just because of that playoff run.
Yup.
Check the numbers. Westbrook was more efficient on the offensive end and a lot more productive on the defensive end.
More efficient? Williams had 4 more assist per game that counts as part of offense too
He accounted for about 12 more points than Weatbrook if you are factoring assist. Deron also took like 60 more shots than Westbrook.
No lie WestBrook almost single handily lost them that series
With tons of 4quarter turnovers and tons of bad shots. Idk y his defense would surprise you Westbrook is know for defense. What he isn’t known for is running a team like a PG he’s a SG. Also one game isn’t going to change my mind because I seen Hump out play Blake last year and Blake is clearly the better player. It also has alot to do with matchups. So the one game thing is meh
With at least SOME talent around him, he's Top 10
He makes everyone around him better with his play. It must be difficult for him, as in Utah he had a ton of talent around him. With the Nets, he’s had nothing. Lopez has been injured and Brooks has only played with him for around 20 games.
A lot of Top 10 players in the NBA have star talent around them which allows them to excel. James has Wade. Bryant has Gasol and Bynum etc. Deron needs some help, he can’t do it all on his own every night. That’s why he’s fallen out of some people’s discussions amongst Top 10 NBA players.
Worst case scenario, he can be considered as part of the discussion. I think we can conlude arguably Top 10, definitely Top 15.
Explain how Kobe had no talent around him
LBJ you can make an argument for in Cleveland, but they never won a title. Success is ultimately measured by championships.
But please explain how Kobe had no talent around him.
If success is measured in championships then LJB in Cleveland
Kobe the year he took the lakers to the finals and lost to the Suns he had a bunch of scrubs.
That's one year
Otherwise, he played with Shaquille O’Neal, Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, Ron Artest, Lamar Odom etc. etc.
You still didn’t answer my question.
I did answer ur question
Kobe didn’t have real talent around him the year he carries the Lakwrs team on his back to the playoffs and almost beat the suns. And that “success is measured by championships” please. That means Farmar is more successful than Deron.
Kobe helped his team win and had great numbers with scrubs around him so did LBJ
His play didn't indicate that he was a superstar.
It still doesn’t.
We’ll see how this season progresses.
Well here's the thing
We’re 2 games out of the playoffs right now. Can’t give up hope yet, especially since our most important player is coming back soon.
I kno Lopez is extremely important
But he is not the most important on the team. It has to be DWill. I know some guys saying we’ll the team is built to compliment Lopez with the 3 point shooters but let’s not forget Lopez was HORRIBLE passing out of double teams.
That's what I meant
Not that he’s the best, just that the offense was built around the assumption that this 7 foot guy who had never gotten injured before would stay healthy.
One big win
Amd all of the sudden this front office is back in the driver’s seat.
If deron can step up most nights the way he did last night, this team (as presently constructed) can make the playoffs
I agree, it's possible
With Lopez coming back and how bad the East is in the bottom half, anything is possible at this point.
by ZR on Jan 26, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
It unrealistic to expect DWill to play like he did last night all season
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Jan 26, 2012 9:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not really...
He has been playing like the super star he is lately. He finally hit his stride after having to switch gears from Turkey back to the NBA. It’s why the FO will doing anything/everything they can to keep him on this team
Deron is not going to put up 30+ points in in 40+ mins a night
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Jan 26, 2012 11:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
if we want playoffs...
gotta keep playing decent, hang around the race, and hope brook gives a real life
warms my heart seeing deron smile in a net uni lol
by KillaHoose on Jan 26, 2012 9:12 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
did anyone else notice
that Deron and A-Mo’s headbands didn’t match the unis? They weren’t navy blue, they were more of a… Jay-Z blue?
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
I did scream at my TV
Very loudly.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 26, 2012 9:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
HA
love how the other announcer groans when D-Will hits the 3.
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
I’d take AI… he’d work well with this core of players… and especially when we get DH12.
DWill
Swag
AI
Lopez
DH12
i know its highly unlikely… but a man can dream!
You mean the Nets will pride themselves on defense?
Wasn’t that Avery’s goal when he first got here?
nice dream but one of those vet players would have to take scrub money for this to happen
this team might go 82-0 though lol
I love Billy's confidence...
I just wonder when he says “you have to be aggressive” regarding the trade deadline, what players he has in mind?
you know
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
yea probably
i wouldn’t mind making a deal for iggy (if he doesn’t want to be in philly) morrow/farmar???
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wow
Consider: According to ESPN Stats & Information, just two players in the NBA this season have had multiple 30-point, 10-assist games, LeBron James … and D-Will.
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by Keysta101 on Jan 26, 2012 9:33 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
RIGHT ON i guess Mazzeo reads NetsDaily
No one said this was going to be easy, going from a perennial contender in Utah to a bottom-feeder in New Jersey. All the Nets and their fanbase have asked is that D-Will give it his all.
Maybe Brook Lopez is out. Maybe you’re playing with a bunch of new faces, many of them one-dimensional. Maybe you haven’t had enough time to practice. So what?
Go out there, give it all you’ve got, and if that isn’t enough, then so be it.
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by Keysta101 on Jan 26, 2012 9:35 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
celticsblog celticsblog · Follow
Dwight Howard says he’d listen to offers from Boston. Here’s my pitch. fb.me/1k0WAQmY0
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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not worried.
i meann, lebron “listened” to our offers too.
wolves never rest
by pope of lofe on Jan 26, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Brooklyn Nets logo...did anyone see this?
http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1128&bih=713&tbm=isch&tbnid=VjYBj6ILXJaoJM:&imgrefurl=http://forums.nba-live.com/downloads.php%3Fview%3Ddetail%26df_id%3D2336&docid=xNbVdutyci2J_M&imgurl=http://forums.nba-live.com/dl_mod/thumbs/2336_brooklyn.png&w=1360&h=768&ei=gmghT8TlBMn20gHz5qG5CA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=791&vpy=293&dur=2192&hovh=169&hovw=299&tx=119&ty=96&sig=101953022002661406868&page=1&tbnh=120&tbnw=213&start=0&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:0
by lezosamis on Jan 26, 2012 9:52 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
i approve.
that blue and white is very clean,
very crisp.
wolves never rest
by pope of lofe on Jan 26, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Same problem the Lakers have
He wants to be THE ONE who did it, not just another one.
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
IT can also mean...
…and this is far out there but you never know…
Dwight getting tired of Billy King waiting this thing out; indirect message to the Nets…you want me, get it done before I’m gone.
Melo’s dancing with the Nets last year basically served the same purpose. He never said he wouldn’t play for the nets, but whenever a report came out that proclaimed NJ wasn’t on his radar, Melo shot it down and it always gave us hope.
lol right
Like Billy isn’t checking his phone every 2 minutes for a new text message and randomly calling Otis saying “HEY! Sorry was in the tunnel didn’t have service, just checking to see if you called”
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
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yes Dwight wants Billy to gut the roster, Billy has done little.
All these things are possible, in candy land
pretty sure
that’s fan made
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
I like it
it’s pretty simple, but it’s very Dodgers. I love the secondary.
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
not bad for a fanmade
reminds me of the throwback jersey a bit with the 3 stars on the side
I'm not thrilled about Brooklyn.,.
But that made me coo.
by Jron on Jan 26, 2012 10:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Become thrilled
It will be a sensation.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
There's a part if you watch the replay of Deron's 3
Where he’s on the bench saying “I broke my nose” hahaha… I think he ran into Meeks after the shot or maybe during his high fives.
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Howard said he'd consider Celtics in free agency
The market in free agency will be much wider than at deadline.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 26, 2012 9:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
When did Howard say that?
Do you have a link?
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
thanks
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
oh you mean the boston herald? Thats like Jarrod Rudolph of the Orlando Sun Sentinel reporting that the Nets and Magic are discussing a D-will trade….
yup i hear that
but it is an interview type article with Howard. Direct quotes
I think he’s just being nice, but that’s me
Yeah I don't see it
He did say “I want to do it my way”, which sounds like he likes the influence Deron is receiving with Billy.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Plus I don't see Dwight leaving Orlando for Boston
He is attracted to the idea of Brooklyn being an entertainment center. Boston is small, boring, and full of drunk college kids – not really the D12 scene.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Of course he also told a Twitter follower
Who said “COME TO BOSTON!” something along the lines of “not happening”.
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by eLonepb on Jan 26, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
ha
i honestly dont see him leaving Deron hanging like that
IMO – the only way he doesnt unite with Deron is if its not possible
Lakers situation is that one I believe
While he COULD leave the Lakers, I can’t imagine he would.
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How about Deron, Dwight, and....
dare I say it…
KOBE?!
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
In Brooklyn...
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
No thanks
I don’t want Kobe’s contract. Let MarShon shine. He’ll never be a Kobe but he can be a 20PPG scorer who would be incredible surrounded by Deron & Dwight.
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Just kidding
Two stars and a great supporting cast is all we need. I’ll take my chances after that.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
If King is this confident, I'm happy.
This is a great sign. It may not be Dwight or bust. There may be a handful of complimentary “star” players that could keep D-Will in NJ. I think we’d be better off finding one of these players sooner or later so he and D-Will can develop some chemistry with a healthy Lopez and our stud rookie.
I don't buy it
I think he’s gone to Dallas if we don’t get Dwight. But I think we’re getting Dwight (and I think Billy does too) so it’s a non-factor.
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yeppp
never been this confident with anything nets related.
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 26, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Me too
Wasn’t this confident about Kidd resigning but this feels destined with the move and all.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
was cautiously optimistic with kidd
was scared to death he’d leave, but in the back of my mind…i knew most players would take the big money to stay. Bron and Bosh were the exception to this rule and neither lost all that much cuz both Toronto and Cavs ended up doing S & Ts with both.
by Versifiervt on Jan 26, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Don't blame either of those stars for leaving
Blame them for rigging a super trio in Miami.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I still don't buy Dallas being a player
Dirk is aging. Older players who would’ve normally had 3 to 4 more seasons, will have their careers cut a little shorter cuz of the schedule this season…just an opinion. But this schedule is getting real taxing on players like Dirk and Amare. Paul Pierce is playing lights out…dunno if he’ll be healthy by end of season.
by Versifiervt on Jan 26, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
It's a good point
I would say it will be worst for teams that go deep into the playoffs.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Dalls is #2 on Dwight's list for a reason. Its not a coincidence
IMO, its the clear backup plan to Brooklyn
the clear backup to Brooklyn for Dwight is Orlando...IMO
if there’s one specific place a player really wants to play…that’s where he’ll go. And Brooklyn seems to be that place for Dwight. During the Bron saga, every team felt they had a shot and there were good arguments to be made for each. But in the end it was always Miami…period. Kinda the same with Melo….difference is that he really just wanted to be back in NYC….Knicks were option 1 and Nets were option 1A.
by Versifiervt on Jan 26, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
one more thing...Dwight's "list of teams"...
…to me they’re all a distant second to Brooklyn and Orlando.
by Versifiervt on Jan 26, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly
The clear backup. If they both can come here outright they will. Deron has real affection for this organization.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think he is gone to Dallas
Nets will be looking better and better as the season progresses. Mavericks window is starting to close. It just doesn’t make sense to me.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
Poker Face
that’s all we can really take from any comments we hear from Otis, Billy, Kupchak, and Dwight himself.
Problem with a true free agency for Deron & Dwight
Is that teams can make a pitch to both of them, try and tell them about all the great things their organization is doing (and has done) and where they are headed. They can show them the world and championship rings, etc.
Billy wants this done by the deadline so there isn’t a need for going on the team tour.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
and this is why
when people are gonna say Billy should take a hardline stance and give Orlando next to nothing..they need to realize that is a verrrrry risky proposition. lots can change between march and july and if they’re both not on our roster by March 15th, it hurts our chances
Not sure but..
I think they want to play together and they were headed to dallas before deron got traded to nj. And brooklyn just made things more appealing for them vs dallas. I think thats turned into their plan b.
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 26, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I would much prefer to sign D12 in free agency…just because of the whole Melo situation. What looked like a lopsided trade in favor of the Knicks not long ago…is now looking like highway robbery for the Nuggets…We can hedge our bets and go for broke…instead of gutting all of our assets just to have two superstars and no true team.
Yeah I hear you but
Amare + Melo are NO Dwight + Deron.
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I don't think Billy expects to get Howard before the break.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Eh. I'm not really worried about that.
I think the Nets can give, by far, the best presentation/pitch of any team in the NBA.
Like the one who Lebron's face molded into the Nets logo?
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Come on.
You and I know that The Talents in South Beach had already made their decision prior to that whole “come in and bow to the King” event.
Remember how impressed they were with the Nets’ presentation?
I hear that
but I mean I cant believe ppl wouldnt be nervous here about the day Deron n Dwight fly out together to Dallas to hear Cuban’s pitch.
our pitch could be the greatest thing in the world, but you just never know
Dwight saying he would listen if called by Boston
is Dwight telling ORL – I HAVE OPTIONS and dont think playing hard ball with the NETS is going to change the FACT I am LEAVING.
This is completely different the Lebron. Dwight is giving a lot of hints he will have options.
by SIC One on Jan 26, 2012 10:03 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think that's an interesting perspective
he’s clearly sending Orlando a message
Yup.
Particularly with this:
"The first thing is basketball," he said. "I want to win a championship, and it takes a certain type of team to win a championship. You know, there’s a lot of teams who are great during the regular season. They play well, but it’s different once you play in those playoffs, you know? It’s gut-check time."
by Dopeness on Jan 26, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
He basically just confirmed, once again, that he wants out.
“It’s not something like I’m doing this for money. I win. I want to do it my way.
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My way = Nets
Mavericks = Dirk’s way
Lakers = Kobe’s way
by Dep on Jan 26, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
what about?
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
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by Versifiervt on Jan 26, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
nooooooooooo
NYDN:
MarShon Brooks’ MRI was negative, but his injury may be more serious than anticipated.
Coach Avery Johnson expressed concern after ruling Brooks out of Wednesday’s game because of a sore Achilles, saying he doesn’t want to contribute to creating a recurring injury.
"The main thing is it could get worse," Johnson said. "And the Achilles is one of those other areas besides hamstring that I really just don’t like. I’ve seen those injuries go from bad to worse. Trainer (Tim Walsh) has seen those injuries go from bad to worse. So the main thing is we thought if we could get the kid to about 90 percent, it would allow him to play but he’s just not ready. And there’s too much discomfort there. So we’ll hope for Friday. He means so much to our program. We can’t put him out there in a detrimental position."
Brooks, who picked up the knock in Monday’s loss to the Bulls, went into Wednesday morning’s shootaround hopeful he could play. But Johnson didn’t like the outcome.
"We’re hoping it’s not chronic," Johnson said. "We just think part of it is probably fatigue. This is not the right year for a rookie to start in the NBA that hasn’t experienced this type of a rigorous schedule," Johnson said. "There’s just so many games, a lot of travel but hopefully with a little rest and treatment, we can get it behind us.
"But when he comes back that means we’re going to have to monitor his minutes a little bit. Maybe he’s not going to be able to play 38 minutes. Maybe it’s 28."
Brooks had the same injury in college and said he was cured after two days of rest.
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/nets/2012/01/nets-concerned-brooks-injury-could-get-worse
by Dep on Jan 26, 2012 10:15 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
It's fine
This team will be better when he comes back healthy.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
yea i honestly posted it after reading the first line only
doesnt sounds so bad
It sounded better on video
He was just saying there is no need push it.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
As much as I was disappointed he wasnt in the lineup yesterday
If the NETS put the same effort they did with PHI, I really confident we can beat Cavs without Brooks.
this was shown during the pre-game last night
i too was concerned, but Avery is right….gotta take care of the kid before it gets worse. Achilles and Hamstrings are tricky. If he has to sit 2 weeks, then so be it.
by Versifiervt on Jan 26, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
He's our prize piece for Orlando
HAVE to keep him healthy.
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It's true
As fans we all want to see him play but his health is the first priority.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
That's media for you
This also could’ve read: “MarShon Brooks’ MRI was negative, and his injury may be nothing but soreness”
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Then again it also could've read
“MarShon Brooks’ Achilles MRI was negative, but does he have liver failure? Unclear.”
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by eLonepb on Jan 26, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Celtics are a huge huge threat
34 million in contracts after this season
rondo/____/pierce/bass/Howard is a decent group… PP is getting older but has a few more years left
Howard’s comment is a little scary. What teams know winning the best? Boston and the Lakers.
Maybe Doc commits to staying too..
King’s comments are reassuring though.. and maybe Deron stays regardless of the Howard situation…
Knew it was you from the moment I saw the headline
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thanks.. but it is obvious
Celts have a champion Coach, PG, and SG…
I’m not saying he would choose Boston over us.. but to think they arent a threat would be foolish
In fact, Celts, due to cap flexibility, are a much greater threat than Dallas
by orangeeater on Jan 26, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
OMG HE'S GOING TO THE SPURS!
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
OMG the Lakers don't either!!!
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Jan 26, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Ray Allen would have to take a HUGE paycut (which is plausible).
Still: That team wouldn’t be better than the Nets.
Oh.
I wasn’t aware that a team’s winning tradition actually helped it to win in the present.
In that case, PANIC!!!!
I think having a PG who won a title, coach who won a title, and SG who won a title all in recent years means something
by orangeeater on Jan 26, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
But why arent the Celtics on his list of 3 then?
I mean you raise fair points, but its not like this points dont exist when he made the 3-team list
Hmm.
Interesting that the Celtics try to trade Rondo every chance they get, no?
Interesting that the olympic team didn’t want Rondo because of his attitude, no?
Interesting that he’s regarded as one of the most disliked players in the league, no?
Also: You’re saying it as if these individuals (the PG, the SG, the coach) won the championship in separate places — they all won it together.
obviously they won together...
Yeah I dont understand the Rondo thing… I know the Cletics have considered trading him
but.. he has won and generally plays well in the playoffs…
but.. he has won and generally plays well in the playoffs…I ma not saying he will go there. We likely are the favorites.. but.. if you read what Howard said.. they are the main threat in free agency
but.. he has won and generally plays well in the playoffs…I ma not saying he will go there. We likely are the favorites.. but.. if you read what Howard said.. they are the main threat in free agencyWhy arent the Celtics on his list now? I have no idea. Maybe they are his 4th choice. Maybe he changed his mind. Maybe he likely wouldnt go there.. but he realizes he owes it to himself to listen to them
but.. he has won and generally plays well in the playoffs…I ma not saying he will go there. We likely are the favorites.. but.. if you read what Howard said.. they are the main threat in free agencyWhy arent the Celtics on his list now? I have no idea. Maybe they are his 4th choice. Maybe he changed his mind. Maybe he likely wouldnt go there.. but he realizes he owes it to himself to listen to them
by orangeeater on Jan 26, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Decent group
Not as good as Dwill, Marshon, Lopez, and picks.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Though you make an interesting point
but there are a few things you have forgotten.
1) If Dwight is being honest and he wants to create his own legacy, how do you surpass Bill Russell, let alone McHale and Bird in BOSTON?
2) I thought Dwight said he wouldnt follow SHAQ.
3) BOSTON would never be his team. It will be Pierces.
To repost what Howard said:
The first thing is basketball," he said. "I want to win a championship, and it takes a certain type of team to win a championship. You know, there’s a lot of teams who are great during the regular season. They play well, but it’s different once you play in those playoffs, you know? It’s gut-check time.
"Like I told the Magic, I just want to win. I don’t want a team that doesn’t know how you have to win in the playoffs. I want a team that’s going to go out every night and forget about stats, forget about who scores the most points or who is the fan favorite. Just go out and play, play for each other and play to win. That’s the only thing."
"You know," said Howard, "you look at a team like Boston and look at a team like LA who’s won . . . especially Boston. Man, those guys came together and they didn’t care who scored all the points. They had done all the individual stuff.
"You know, for me, I’ve done a lot of things individually, but I want a championship. All those accolades that I’ve got over the years, they mean a lot, but it’s just different watching teams hold up that trophy and knowing how hard you have to work to get it.
"They have the championship mentality," he said of the Celts. "It means a lot. Like I said, I like the team. They play hard and they go after it, and that’s what I like."
I used to think I'd take my fan-ship to Orlando if Lopez and Marshon went there in a trade.
I’m not sure anymore. As much as I love Marshon and Brook, I always come back to the name on the front of the Jersey. I just love the Nets. I even loved our team last night. We were tough, we played hard and it was an exciting game. Oh, and we won. I forgot how fun it is to have your favorite team win.
Well said.
Its just that it would hurt to lose the Brooks and the Brook, its the losing the New Jersey part that hurts the most.
by Jron on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If Howard goes to Boston it will hold their window open for couple more years
If Howard comes here it will throw our window wide open for several years to come.
I think Pierce has a couple years left, not few. KG and Ray getting older, who do they have besides Rondo?
We have Lopez Marshon and Cap Space. Via FA, I think Nets are hands-down favorite to land Howard.
Doubt he goes to Boston. He is telling ORL he is leaving.
If Dwight is being honest
1)and he wants to create his own legacy, how do you surpass Bill Russell, let alone McHale and Bird in BOSTON?
2) I thought Dwight said he wouldnt follow SHAQ.
3) BOSTON would never be his team. It will be Pierces.
OT
Nets fans
D’Antoni gets fired, would you take him to run offense and Avery runs defense?
At times the offense looks lost and I think Avery is too much of a defense guy with these players, we’ve struggled more on the offense end this yr then defense
by GameTime on Jan 26, 2012 10:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions
LeBron might walk in 2014????
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Don't laugh
If we sign Deron and Dwight there will be cap space for Bron in 2014. Book it.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Ha ha
It’s more that you will see teams turning over the majority of their cap space every two to three years. Contracts are going to get shorter, teams will want to stay more flexible around their core. It makes sense for the Nets, provided they do get Howard, to load up for a couple of years and then be in a position to remain flexible if need be.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Iggy said the Nets record, doesn't show what we are capable of doing...
They need time to jel, most guys were signed and the season was amost beginning, few practises together, there are no miracles… with time the Nets will get better and better, especially with a healthy Lopez.
2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!
Anyone else find this picture funny and ironic??
A guy wearing a jersey that says “World Peace” on the back is in the middle of a scuffle.
LOL I was thinking the same
but it looks and he was trying to pull them apart. promoting peace indeed
I think he is also but if you look closely it kind of looks like he is cocking hs fist
to punch D Jordan. Also funny that pretty boy Blake isn’t involved there. Can’t mess up his face for Hollywood appearances.
I really dislike Blake. KLove is two times the player he is…
I don't get the Love reference.
Or comparison Blake is a scrub Love is an all star whats your point?
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Wow was I dumb there for some reason I was thinknig Steve Blake.
Ah yes I understand what you are saying now doh.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Looks like Derek Fisher is getting punched out for negotiating such a poor deal for the player's union!
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Anybody see that the Nets are now number 22 in Hollinger's ratings?
AND THE KNICKS ARE 23!
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Of course it was OBVIOUS the Knicks would be terrible
except not everyone felt it was so obvious:
D’Antoni believes that the front line of Amare Stoudemire, Carmelo Anthony and Tyson Chandler turns the Knicks into a championship contender.
Kay: Mike D’Antoni – 12/16 Listen
Knicks head coach Mike D’Antoni joined ESPN New York 1050’s “The Michael Kay Show” to discuss the Knicks’ upcoming season. He believes the Knicks are a championship contender.
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“If you have a center from the defending champions on your team that’s 28 years old and is playing the best basketball he’s ever played and you’ve got two superstars in [Carmelo Anthony] and [Amare Stoudemire], obviously you’ve got to compete for a championship,”
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What's Duh Problem in Duh Gahden?
- Carmelo not knowing how to play with others?
- A “decline” of Amare? who is still putting up 17 and 8
- Chandler can’t defend all 5 players at once?
- No PG?
17 and 8 means nothing
He’s not doing it efficiently and he’s lost his explosion when you watch him. A’mare will be done after this grueling season. Carmelo has always played like this, which is why the Nuggets are better this year without him and which is also why I told Yormark personally that I thought this organization should have nothing to do with Melo.
These are all signs of an organization run like moiso. You think the Knicks will be attractive to ANYONE if they miss the playoffs this year?
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 26, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah looks like 5 year max wasn't a good idea after all :P
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Don't want to be premature but is to bad they used the amnesty on
a good point guard that they needed that expired in a year.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Don't matter they have zero cap space for the next god knows how long
Never mind picks who can they bring in or be attractive for?
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
3 problems
D’Antoni doesnt know how to coach that team..(or cant coach at all)
Carmelo is Allen Iverson (at the SF position) makes others around him worse..needs the ball too much
no PG or depth
They are screwed for the next 4 years.. their only chance is to try to deal Carmelo or Amare.. problem is Amare is nearly impossible to trade… any Carmelo trade would get back far less than they gave for him..
by orangeeater on Jan 26, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Be fair AI carried a team on his back to the finals
With way worse teamates then Melo had in Denver. AI may be a one on five player but Melo is no small forward version of AI.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Seeing that Robin Lopez didn't get his extension
I kinda want to get him if the price is right Dwight or not, if we were to keep Brook though.
Might not be the best decision if we had Brook
Would essentially double our weaknesses up front, as Robin isn’t that athletic or quick as well, not that great of a rebounder too
SF Rankings
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/playerrankings/regularseason/SF
We dont even have a top 50 SF…..yikes.
We should trade for someone on that list.
Someone even mentioned signing Al Thornton a few weeks back. I’d take it.
he's averaged like 41 mpg the last 3 seasons
one of the best wing defenders in the league, can run the floor and has developed a decent 3 point shot.
on top of being one of the smartest players in the league
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 26, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yea.. Deng has stepped up last season and this season.
MarShon the Creator!
Good lord
Proky made $3.1B income in the past 4 years
huzzah
saw it on Netsdaily twitter:
Businessman Mikhail Prokhorov, who is running for the Russian presidency, has submitted an income report showing he made 115 billion rubles, or $3.12 billion, over the past four years.
The information about Prokhorov’s personal income was disclosed by Russian media on Thursday, the day after the billionaire was officially registered as a candidate in the March 4 presidential race. According to the official income report, Prokhorov made 115.1 billion rubles between 2007 and 2010. The majority of this sum – 112.5 billion rubles – was Prokhorov’s share in a joint business with another Russian billionaire, Vladimir Potanin. Prokhorov received the sum in cash when the two decided to end their cooperation in 2008. In 2010, Prokhorov made a mere 1.8 billion rubles, which includes interest on securities and bank deposits, and also his salary in the Oneksim industrial holding. That year, Prokhorov also received 30,000 rubles (about $1,000) as a fee for his article in the Russkiy Pioner magazine (the magazine belongs to Prokhorov himself).
Prokhorov also declared real estate – a 2,000-square-meter home in a Moscow suburb, and three apartments in Moscow with a total floor space of almost 1,000 square meters. The candidate also declared three parking lots – but strangely, no cars.
Prokhorov’s representative stresses that the businessman declared only the property in his direct possession, as provided by the law on elections, so his actual wealth could be even greater.
The other presidential candidates’ official declared income is rather more modest. Vladimir Zhirinovsky of the Liberal Democratic Party declared 22 million rubles, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin 17.7 million, Sergey Mironov of Fair Russia just over 9 million rubles, and Communist leader Gennady Zyuganov 7.6 million rubles over the same period
http://rt.com/politics/becomes-candidate-billion-dollars-775/
Hahahahah
Knicks payroll: 250 million bucks, 23rd in Hollingers rankings
Nets payroll: 70 million bucks, 22nd in hollingers rankings
better number
nets move from 21 to 14 in most profitable nba franchise list
knicks drop from 1st to 2nd(the Lakers gap is wide though on them)
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 26, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Its total payroll on the books/committed
not just 2012
Andre Iguodala
Is the premiere perimeter defender in the NBA and is elite as a passer at the small forward position. If the Nets acquired him and were somehow able to retain MarShon and Brook, they would be in a very good spot. Most of their problems stem from poor perimeter defense and a lack of talented ball movers after D-Will.
www.twitter.com/robertjamis
But probably the only way to get Iggy is with Lopez
Iggy would be an option if we get Dwight in the offseason and we don’t opt for a Twin Towers set-up but instead trade Lopez for him for a different line-up, which could be more balanced and athletic.
Iggy...not a game changer, but pretty good
Dwight is a franchise savior. Iggy is a good player on a good team. I’d take him, after we secure Dwight, or Dwight goes somewhere else, where he will sign a long term deal.
But a team of Lopez, Humph, Iggy, Dwill and MarShon would be a playoff team.
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
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