Nets Won't Renew Damion James, Nor Extend Brook Lopez
by Net Income on Jan 25, 2012 1:49 PM EST
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PrintIt's official. Fred Kerber reports the Nets will not renew Damion James rookie contract for next season and will not offer Brook Lopez an extension. As a result, James will become an unrestricted free agent in July while Lopez will become a restricted free agent, permitting the Nets to match any offer he may receive.
"I understand it I suppose from a business standpoint," Lopez said. "But yeah, I think it’s disappointing because I’d like to be here." Later, Lopez hinted that he would have liked to be informed of Nets' decision to not extend him. "It does include me," Lopez said of decision. "We’ve got first right of refusal,'' King said of Lopez. "I’m sure Arn (Tellem) and I will talk very quickly on July 1st.'' Tellem is Lopez's agent.
James is out for the remainder of the season while Lopez is expected back in a few weeks. NBA teams have until close of business Wednesday to make decisions on players on rookie contracts.
Four players from Lopez's 2008 draft class have received extensions: Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, Kevin Love, and Danilo Gallinari. Eric Gordon and Nicolas Batum were other possibilities as of Wednesday afternoon.
- Lopez, James won't have options picked up by Nets - Fred Kerber - New York Post Nets Blog
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As a Lopez fan, even I say this is a smart business decision.
Waive James.
"Beware the Ides of March."
Smart business decision, but very disrespectful to Lopez
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To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
he will still get his money though.
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Not if they give him more money in the offseason
by Frigidevil on Jan 25, 2012 1:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
works out in his favor since hes RFA
he’ll get a good offer from other teams and then a better offer from the Nets if they don’t get Howard. If he gets his money right now, its not likely to be what he would get on the market, when healthy.
by cprash on Jan 25, 2012 1:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
yep makes sense financially for Brook
makes sense cap wise for us.
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if it makes so much sense for the player, then why would Rose, Westbrook, Love, etc sign now?
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To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
Brook won't get maxed
He is not an allstar… new CBA… remember?
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Brook has been a trooper throughout the persistent trade rumors.
I hope he gets his payday.
by cprash on Jan 25, 2012 2:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
How is it disrespectful
when Lopez signed the contract?
He and his agent knew that this was a possibility.
So if he wants to be a Net, he has to have a very good year and wait to see what happens.
If he wants to be a Net and wants to win, wait for Dwight to decide if it is NETS OR NOT. Then Lopez gets what he wants.
More disrespectful to DJames who would only be gettin 1.3 million.
Nets already have enough cap space for signing Howard and DWill.
Makes sense.
Lopez, when healthy, would demand a max contract. The option’s there to check if he’s the same player coming off this injury and if he is, Nets can match any offer since he’s unrestricted. No-brainer, if you ask me.
4 for $60M
is the most another team can offer? Would another team do that with him coming off the foot? maybe… still better than giving him the max..if Dwight falls through…
by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on Jan 25, 2012 1:15 PM EST reply actions
I can’t wait till Lopez is back. Was really hoping for Damion James to be healthy but its a good chance that he has played his last Nets game. For some reason I see he fits well with a veteran team that just needs a big body that can defend and rebound. Could’ve been something special, but now its time for me to change my profile picture ;(
-Justin L.
Smart move BK
Retain flexibility for Dwight Howard at all costs.
You may have to
If the Nets need to trade him for Howard, they will do it no questions asked.
by ZR on Jan 25, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
well for Howard yes obviously
I meant If don’t get Howard and lose Lopez for nothing
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that wont happen
If that happens, nets will match other offers, thus keeping him unless they somehow get another awesome trade
by rotoreuter48 on Jan 25, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
depends on how we time things
what if someone offers Lopez a big contract and we decide NOT to match because we want Howard/Dwill so we let go of Lopez and end up failing to acquire Howard. That’s my fear.
It all comes down to timing and managing dates.
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I don't think it will take that long
Lopez won’t sign an offer sheet until he knows Howard is a Net. He may take less money to be a Net too. Caron Butler did to be a Clipper, Battier the Heat etc.
by ZR on Jan 25, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Free agents will be able to talk to teams July 1
But wont be able to sign them until a week or so later. It’s likely Dwight will make his intentions known long before the actual free agency period began. If he went to the Nets outright they could resign Lopez or work a sign and trade.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
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Danilo Gallinari has agreed to a four-year, $42 million extension with the Denver Nuggets.
More MarShon Please
For the Nuggets, yes
He’s turned into a good player and that’s a reasonable contract. Better than the Nene deal.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
does that mean they can't afford wilson chandler?
assuming we give dwight and deron max deals can we realistically afford brook? if not signing chandler for sf and drafting a pf (jones, davis, or robinson) would be nice
by Nets2410 on Jan 25, 2012 1:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I really don't know if the Nets can afford Lopez
It’s interesting to see how that happens. The best thing the Nets could do is trade away Farmar, Morrow or Petro to help clear cap space.
by ZR on Jan 25, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
I expect Farmar and Morrow to be gone
and the Nets to pick up some draft picks for them. Probably end up ditching Hump and Perto if they can.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Hump won't be traded yet IMO
In Orlando they don’t need him so it’d have to be some other team.
Morrow and Farmar I expect as they have relatively cheap contracts and can play.
by ZR on Jan 25, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Good pieces for contending teams
And with Jordan sporting a 21.43 PER maybe we could pry a late first round draft pick? Farmar to Miami for their pick?
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Miami owes all of their near future picks to Clevaland for the LeBron S&T
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
/keep Batum/ /trade for Bogut/
i dont think so,
hopefully bk does something so we can add wilson chandler to our roster
Excellent deal for the Nuggets
I hate Ujiri but they made out like bandits from the Melo deal.
by ZR on Jan 25, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
yeah 10 mill a year for gallo if you ask me thats a steal i see this guy being good for a long time
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 25, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
and didnt have to rebuild...
..just retooled. Which is what ORL wants to do.
by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on Jan 25, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody is losing Lopez, this is a smart move!!
On the other side, it’s the last time you saw DJ on Nets uniform …sad but business …
last time in nba uniform most likely
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by kory raymond on Jan 25, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
dude could be a solid 7th or 8th guy
but too injury prone.
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He's only had ONE significant injury.
We are not hearing the full story about Damion James.
I think he might still play by April, with the Nets.
So what if Howard doesn't come to BK and we lose Lopez in free agency?
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but couldn't orlando use that as leverage? or a tactic?
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What tactic?
If Howard becomes a FA, Otis has no control. Nets can still match anything on Lopez.
by ZR on Jan 25, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
ye but Orlando or some other teams could offer Brook a huge deal
July 1 is free agency which is when we COULD get dwight, but how long do we have until we can match Lopez?
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i think
any, because we can go over our own cap to sign our own player
yeah but I wonder how long we have to match it...
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We would grab Howard on July 1 so that would give time to decide on Lopez.
However, this is all strategy by Billy King.
Howard is likely going to be traded by March 15, since Nets now have the ability to get Howard for nothing.
I believe it's 3 days or 72 hours to match an offer sheet
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 25, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
but when is the first day other teams can offer Brook a contract?
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july 1
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Lopez can start talking to other teams on July 1 (same for the Nets & Howard)
but Brook cannot sign an offer sheet until July 11. If he signed an offer sheet on July 11, the Nets would have until July 14 to match it. That means Dwight has 14 days to commit to the Nets for them to be able to keep Brook.
Non issue.
by Andres B on Jan 25, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
thanks for clearing that up andres.
very important fact.
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Chad Ford chat
If you could re-do the NBA Draft of 2008, knowing what you know now … what would the Top 10 look like?
1. Derrick Rose. 2. Kevin Love. 3. Russell Westbrook 4. Eric Gordon 5. Brook Lopez 6. Roy Hibbert 7. Danilo Gallinari 8. DeAndre Jordan 9. Serge Ibaka 10. Nicolas Batum
"Beware the Ides of March."
Rose
Love
Westbrook
Lopez
Gordon
Gallo
Ibaka
Hibbert
Jordan
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i agree…Gordon hasnt played more than 60 something games in each season. Alittle overrated.
"Beware the Ides of March."
Yep
I value big guys more than wings, and although Gordon is pretty good, I prefer Lopez.
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Could go either way
Gordon is really good.
Beasley is also a decent player, just not for the number two overall pick.
Also, it’s both absurd and ignorant to put Ryan Anderson any lower than number seven on this list (and he will only get better).
Other notables: J.J. Hickson, Courtney Lee, Robin Lopez and George Hill.
Also some great second round picks: Mo Chalmers, Omer Asik, Luc Mbah a Moute and Goran Dragic. Draft was a great as it was billed to be at the time.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Gallo is a better player than Gordon.
Flat out.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Mayo? no love for Mayo?
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To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
OJ Mayo stinks
so he gets no Love for Mayo. That deal was terrible for Memphis. How are they relevant?
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone know
if Damion James and Lopez were worked on by the same surgeon?
The news on Jame’s foot has me nervous about Lopez.
yeah
same here, i hope lopez doesnt have the same bad luck.
rumors..
ryan anderson will also not b extened as well as many other notable players coming off of their rookie contracts.
Speights, flynn, jordan hill, twill, possibly courtney lee etc.
should we make a bid for those players if the nets fail on dwill n d12?
But you can’t deny that we could use a guy like him on our team, ego’s and attitudes aside.
-Justin L.
yeah but he has too much baggage
AJ will never agree to it.
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would you give back Houstons pick for TWill?
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 25, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
NO
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by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 25, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
That trade was such a heist!
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
NJ Package for D12!!!
Nico (NJ)
If Lopez comes back healthy and proves it.. wouldn’t a package with Brook, MarShon, exponential draft picks, and giving up the Hedo contract be too much to pass up on?
Chad Ford (1:31 PM)
Might be. The emergence of MarShon Brooks is a major boon to the Nets. He’s been one of the two or three best rookies in the league so far. He becomes a much more serious chip in any trade proposal. Brooks has the ability to be a 20 ppg scorer in the league.
He will be traded
unless we dont get dwight
by rotoreuter48 on Jan 25, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
And before someone goes "HE HASNT EVEN BEEN MENTIONED IN A TRADE PROPOSAL HE IS FINE'
Like I usually hear… unless you are Otis, BK, or anyone else… that point is invalid.
If Nets trade for dwight, marshon is going. end of story. Unless a miracle 4 team trade happens… hes gone
by rotoreuter48 on Jan 25, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
If sacrificing MarShon means getting Howard+Dwill together in Brooklyn, IT WILL HAPPEN. Make no mistake about it. Ideally I would love to keep our homegrown talent (Lopez and Brooks) and have DH12 join via free agency but it is what it is.
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how is a 4 team trade a miracle?
4 team trades happen…not often, but they happen. I don’t think Brook/Swag is a no brainer for Orl.
I didnt mean it like a 4 team trade is a miracle
I meant it like our only chance of keeping him is through a miracle 4 team trade
by rotoreuter48 on Jan 25, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
He couldn't be mentioned before
Couldn’t be traded.
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They still could have mentioned him as a trade asset. for future
by rotoreuter48 on Jan 25, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
he had not played a game yet
now we all know Swag is a top 3 rookie. They will definitely ask for him.
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Love the kid, but I will ship him myself to get D12!!!
Another thing, it will be Swagg or Morrow (not both). Morrow will be super important with D12 in the middle and D-Will dishing.
Do not underestimate Morrows’ value in that scenario.
Id rather not trade Brooks and picks
Brooks looks like Kobe IMO he can score 20 pts on anyone
I don’t want to be the Knicks. 2 stars and noone else
Dwight should want SWAG on his team in BK
Id rather have Brooks and Brook with a lottery pick and cap space over Dwill Dwight and 13 bums
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 25, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
- I’d rather not trade Brooks either, but Lopez+Marshon seems fair for the 2nd best player in the league, 3 time DPOY.
- Brooks will be a 17-23 ppg scorer but will not reach Durant or Kobe levels due to his lack of athleticism IMO. 17-23ppg is INCREDIBLE for a 25th pick though!
- The Knicks have 2 stars that have the same game, they do not compliment each other. Neither plays D either. Completely different case than a duo of Dwill plus Howard.
-Dwight wants Dwill on his team. Swag would be the cherry on top.
- I’d rather have the most dominant big in the league plus a top 3 PG than Brooks, Lopez lottery pick and cap space. WHO are we going to sign that will put us on the same level as the Bulls, Heat or Thunder? Nobody.
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Also, if you give up SWAG you get to keep Morrow.
He will be very valued part of the team with D12 in the middle and D-Will dishing.
A good team needs players like that (i.e. S. Kerr, Paxon, etc)
no way
I’d give them Morrow if it meant keeping Marshon.
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I wouldnt.
Morrow has proven to DOMINATE the 3pt. MarShon probably can hit good ones, but he seems more of a mid range shooter to me. With Deron and Dwight, morrow would dominate.
by rotoreuter48 on Jan 25, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
that's crazy
Brooks is 10 times better than Morrow already. Morrow can’t dribble, can’t jump, can’t attack the rim, can’t play Defense.. lol all he can do is shoot 3s.
Marshon is much more complete.
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by Claud on Jan 25, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I didnt mean it like I would pick morrow over MarShon
I just would mind it that much. you are right, morrow cant do any of those things… But he has clutch (more so than ray allen if you ask me)
I just see MarShon on a team where he can hit the 3’s, the midrange, and even in the paint. Not strictly at the 3, where he would be needed here
by rotoreuter48 on Jan 25, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
by dominate do you mean continue to be a terrible player
and sink a few stand still 3 pointers each game
by GrandKenyon6 on Jan 25, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I would keep SWAG X 100 !!!
What I’m saying is if that is a dealbreaker, you will get to keep Morrow. He will be important in a great team (hoping will be great).
If you give up Swag in a D12 deal
You immediately trade Morrow or Farmar plus a 1st rounder for Mayo.
No
You keep Morrow to space the floor for Dwight and Deron. Forget about OJ Mayo.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
& watch Howard fould out every game
Because Morrow & Turkoglu can’t keep any opposing wings in front of them.
The most important reasons to trade Swag...
… if we must for D12:
D-Will AND D12 makes the Nets relevant on NUMEROUS levels. Forget basketball-wise, if the duo combine in BK, the Nets will be looked at SO DIFFERENTLY. ESPN will come, ABC will come, Knicks fans will come, respect will come, not being a perceived second rate team will come, etc.
I love Swag’s game as much as anyone, but for real and perceived GOOD things to come, you have to make sacrifices. Unfortunately, the rook is probably one of them.
Sam Amico today
What are your impressions of MarShon Brooks so far? How you gotten a chance to see him play?
Sam Amico:
I love him. I saw him play twice last season (and twice this year) and told anyone who would listen he was a top five pick. No one listened. But he looks like a rare combination of a scorer who really wants to win — as opposed to just stockpile numbers.
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sounds about right
we need to play more non-playoffs teams though.
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Too low
he’s not factoring in injuries. Nets still have a legit shot at the playoffs, but I think they’ll attempt to dismantle and stockpile assets in anticipation of July.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
If we don't trade for Howard + Turkoglu
From my understanding, we’ll have more than enough space for Lopez’s QO of 4.2, Dwight, Deron, and our first round pick, especially if Farmar chooses to opt out (which sounds likely). We could probably add another player and then go over the cap to sign Lopez (which would remove his QO and add his new salary). This could work out very well if BK and Bobby can swing it.
You have to fit in Lopez's Cap Hold, Not QO
His cap hold is approximately $7.7mil.
As of now, we stand to have about $12mil in cap space to offer D12 if we want to retain Lopez. That assumes about $4mil in cap holds for 2 first round picks (roughly #6 & #15). We can stretch Shawne’s contract which would free up roughly $1.6mil. We’d have to dump at least one of Farmar/Morrow/Petro to be in range to sign Howard as a free agent.
If we need extra cap space, something to consider would be trading Lopez for a player making less than $7.7mil in 2012 (most likely someone on his rookie deal). This can be done via S&T in the offseason, or it could be considered at the deadline if Orlando decides not to deal Howard. In that scenario, a deal like Lopez+Morrow for Derrick Williams and cap filler could make sense. It would free up cap space for a max offer to Howard, while returning a guy locked up cheap that could potentially compliment DWIll & Howard better. I would think the Nets would rather do a Non-Howard Lopez deal in the offseason than at the deadline.
If we find a way to get rid of Farmar AND Petro
Theoretically, we could afford Dwill+Howard+ Lopez…. or instead of Lopez another star… correct?
If that’s the case, you should we resign Lopez or go for another piece that might fit better than BLo would next to DH12 and Dwill, if so who?
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Gay?
I dont know enough about cap space to know if we can get him. Granger?
by rotoreuter48 on Jan 25, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Please no Rudy Gay
way overpaid.
Not that good. Can’t shoot.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
No, I don't believe he is
and I am a Husky fan who has watched him a long time. He can score, but not efficiently and their is a reason that Memphis was able to be so good in the post-season without him. His contract is an albatross as well. He has some intangibles and great athleticism but at that price you need to just say no.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
the nets
Are hurting a lot of feelings en route to dwill, and dhow combo they better land them or we are really screwed, dJames is a big tease, he plays well and then boom injured like wtf? STAY HEALTHY!!!
by mike&thenets on Jan 25, 2012 1:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
We are not letting him walk away for nothing for sure
No matter what, I hope him a long and healthy career
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Cap space that we will use to sign nobody useful and then throw it at guys like Farmar and Outlaw….
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we are not in Brooklyn yet.. how does he know nobody wants to play there? and isn't brooklyn the reason DH12 wants to play for us
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well hes right
nets have been cap space kings for like 4 years running, you see how it never turns into star players or success on the court
by William_H_HOLLA on Jan 25, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
well yeah that was/is in NJ though
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The 12 win season had more to do with it then the area
by brickznujerz on Jan 25, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
No, Randy
2 summers ago these stars faced 2 YEARS of playing in New Jersey before Brooklyn..not 2 weeks.
This past summer we clearly didn’t sign anyone for a reason.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 25, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and the arena wasn't even underway in any significant way
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Come on Randy you knew the plan
the reason Nene wasn’t signed was becasue we thought we had a deal until the CEo pulled out.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
That's whining
Nets can still resign James with that cap space, and probably at half the price with a team option for the second year. It was no brainer and I am a big James fan.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
They're all in on Dwight Howard in Brooklyn
should be obvious by now.
you either agree with it or not, but you’d better recognize it.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
lol. Did he really need an explanation?
John Schuhmann
@SebastianPruiti Their dream scenario is adding DH as a FA & keeping Lopez, Brooks & picks, which some believe is very possible
1 hour ago
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@johnschuhmann Now, if that happens, I’d be A-OK with the way things are going…
1 hour ago
John Schuhmann
It's an entirely plausible scenario if the Magic hold on to Dwight
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Only way that happens is if ORL looks like they could compete for a championship this season...
or Howard convinces Otis that he very possibly would re-sign with ORL, but doesn’t.
I think it is very unlikely Nets get Howard for nothing.
I hope DJ gets healthy and can be welcomed back
Maybe Damion James can get healthy and we can re-sign him. He has a role here.
If not, I see a Texas reunion with Kevin Durant at Oklahoma City. That would also be a great place for him.
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This was classic
by Versifiervt on Jan 25, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Each time the Nets fell behind though there was always one reason to keep watching them play. That reason was MarShon Brooks. The rookie has real talent . Not only can he create his own shot and score, but he’s a nifty passer and he has long arms which helps him get rebounds, and occasionally block shots and make steals.
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by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 25, 2012 1:50 PM EST reply actions
Where is this from?
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ycn-10877733
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by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 25, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Your right what was I thinking lol
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
The Clippers were always know as one of the worst franchises in all sports!
but look at them now. We def have a better history and if we get D12 I have no dount we’ll have a brighter future!
they still are
haven’t won anything yet
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Have u seen thier home attendence this year?
They basically have a sell out in almost every home game and they have some of the most nationalized games in the Nba. Wish i could say the same about our Nets
by brickznujerz on Jan 25, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
But there is a dynamic buzz around them
And now all the pundits consider them to be relevant. Same thing will happen for the Nets. Just watch.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Funny Marshon is having a better season than Gerald Henderson in less minutes team has more W's
Henderson is on the allstar ballot, if MarShon wasn’t a rookie he probably could have made it this year might still be able to as a write in if his average goes up to 18 soon.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Where has Shameer, DollarBills been?
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 25, 2012 1:59 PM EST reply actions
This could get really ugly
if Brook gets a near max contract offer while we are waiting for DH12 (if he is not traded by Magic which is beginning to look like a real possibility). We will be forced to match it within three days or lose him for nothing. I hope Billy knows what he is doing though it is understandable why he didn’t offer an extension to Brook.
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I dont think he can get more than 12-13 million dollars
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Did you see what Nene, Gasol got
If he comes back strongly after the injury, he will definitely get a near max. There are not many good centers around.
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like Nene's max was 15 mill
I am pretty sure the max brook can get is 12-13 mill per.
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D12 is not going to FA!!!
If he does, D-Will will let you know in time if he’s staying and if he’s buddy signing with us or not.
D-Will will need alot to leave Brooklyn; he will be your primary insider in what should you do with B-LO.
If he finds out that D12 is gone somewhere else, he will tell you snatch Brook.
Tell me where would D12 sign as a FA that is better than Brooklyn.
If DH12 comes as FA
we need to keep Brook so that either to play him as PF or trade him to get a good player. If he gets a near max offer in the beginning of FA, we’ll have to rush through all other moves or lose him. This is a real possibility.
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If you get D12 as a FA, losing Brook is not the worst thing in the world!
Why! Because you will have top 5 players in 2 (of the most) important positions in C and PG.
You will have a solid 2 in SWAG, and you can utilize the money that you would give Brook (if MAX as you’re saying) to get solid core around the 3 above ….
Great. why lose
an asset specially a good one like Brook for nothing. That is bad management no matter whether we get DH12 or not.
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I see your point, but you lose him cause you get the same position which is way way better.
Not even close …
I hope Billy has a better plan
if that possibility arrives.
BTW, Brook can play PF with DH12. They compliment well. They can switch in the defensive end if we are facing a quicker PF like Amare.
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Not disputing your points as I agree with all of them.
My point is that it’s not the worst thing in the world if all falls into place.
If I asked you right now would you give Brook and Swag for D12? I hope your answer is YES. Regardless of how much we like both of those players.
regardless of what happens neither is a fail
d12 or cap space keep brooks lopez plus picks but probably lose d will
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 25, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Only thing is A'mare isn't a quick PF anymore!
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Question:
Do you think Dwight is not aware of what has happened to Knicks, Denver and Utah since the trade of Melo and Dwill?
Please if he isnt Dwill and Dwight’s agent has mentioned it to him.
Dwill is saying imagine MarShon and Lopez along with us.
Agent- I have a few endorsements lined up for you that will supplement the $30 mil you are going to lose and some.
MarShon Brooks must not be included in ANY,ANY, trade,,,howard no howard,,,,,
B.Lopez + M.Brooks next year ==48 points/g 15 rebounds 82.0% from the line
Mr Howard ==19 points/g 13 rebounds 52.0% from the line
BILLY K. keep building the core….hello BILLY K are u there,,,? I LIKE WHAT YOU DOING SO FAR…..NEVER LET YOUR PRESENT CRISIS DICTATE YOUR FUTURE MOVES.
Is this a joke !!! Can you tell me when should I start laughing!
Proky is not rebuilding / building whatever …. He stated that he wants Stars.
Getting the 2nd best player in the league, you give up as much as needed as you will have always won that trade (no matter what).
I dont get where this dwight howard is the second best player in the league comes from...
He is not better than: lebron, wade, durant, rose, and maybe even kobe…
Are you serious!!!
You would take Wade, Durant, Rose, Kobe (right now) before D12?
I guess I’m twisted or there is something wrong around here …
In a heart beat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lebron, wade and Rose are great players on both end of the floor. Durant is scoring machine. Howard is too limited offensively to put him over any of those players…
This offensively limited guy
averaged 22.9 PPG last season while getting 14.1 RPG. You add his defensive value and think who can be better than that.
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22.ppg. Yet, he is the "go to guy" on the team. People got mad at shaq for saying he only has 2 moves, but shaq was right
You cannot give Howard the ball and win you the game. Even when they went to the finals, Hedo was the guy with the ball in his hands during crunch time. He was taking more big shots than Howard.
i am not saying Howard is a bad offensive player. However, he is limited. All of the guys I mentioned above average more than him. Those 22.9 ppg you mentioned was only one year. And thats the most he ever averaged. Lebron and wade are great scorers who can shut you down on the other end. Rose is a great scorer who is a very good defender. Durant is a awesome scorer who is becoming a better defender. Howard is not better than those guys…
Not taking anything from Shaq as he was one of the best of all times!
Howevere, Shaq didn’t do jack at the end of games either. He didn’t do anything till he got Kobe (earlier) and Wade (later) to win the game. Why?
Centers need facilitators (i.e. D-Will) or triangle offense (Phil Jax).
Unless you are Michael Jordan, in this league you win with Bigs, Dominant Bigs. Look at the history of the league (take MJ = Freak of nature out of the equation).
I believe Kareem had a teammate named oscar robertson. Wilt had Jerry West in LA.
Hakeem was Hakeem.
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
What I wouldn't give for it to be '03 again
Are you serious!!
Hakeem as good as he was he had Sam Casell, Kenny Smith, Clyde, Horry … and they beat the damn Nix on one of the Chips.
Come on man. Every Champ team needs talent no doubt, but you proved my point that Dominant Bigs win champs (unless you are MJ). Hence with D12 (Dominant Big) you have a bigger chance than with D.Rose or D.Wade (Wade won with Shaq and hasn’t done jack since), or KD etc.
Give the ball to Marshon
or Brook Lopez, or Dwill, or Kidd-Gilchrist when D12 comes here via free agency.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Now this I agree with...
Howard in free agency is the best move for the nets
Even with Shaq
he had Kobe and Wade. Duncan had Manu and Parker. So he needs to have a guy who can score. He is a Center and he needs someone to give him the ball. It is easier to double a big than a small. That is why he needs good supporting cast around him. If he comes to us, we will have DWill, Brooks and possibly Brook. His real value is his defensive prowess. No big is intimidating than him. So yes he is the second best player.
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Once again, who did Hakeem need?
Duncan had parker and ginobli, but for 3 of his rings. And they were not great players. They were good players. For duncans first ring he had avery johnson.
You mentioned dwight needs players to give him the ball. He has that. He just does not have the moves to be a dominant scorer.
Stop making him out to be something he is not. He is not dominant offensively. Boston used to play him one on one with kendrick perkins or big baby. Why? Because they knew dwight couldn’t beat them.
Dwight is a dominant defensive player. And a decent offensive player.
I dont watch many Magic games but
like what we experienced with Harris, but Scoring PGs tend to forget the players in the paint. Do you blame the so called PGs or do you have to question the coach?
Last year before we got Dwill, Farmar and Harris would disregard Lopez battling for post position.
Centers dont control the ball so they have to have someone to pass to them. After one of the Knicks games where Shumpert was chucking up shots, people were down on this kid. then someone here reminded me that shumpert was Favors teammate.
The only person I consider taking before Dwight is James
period. Dwight’s offensive shortcomings are overblown. He’s one of the best defensive players ever and Orlando has been effective offensively merely by putting good shooters around him. He’ll get you 20 points a night on 11 shots a night while dominating the paint on defense. Enough said.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, he is the second best player
after LBJ.
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A player who is that offensively limited should never be put over any of those players I mentioned...
Until Dwight becomes that big man that you can give the ball to and say: “go win us the game” the way you could with hakeem, shaq, duncan or robinson, then he will never crack my top 3 players…
Read above
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I dont agree with lopez and brooks averaging that many points and rebounds. But...
I hear what your saying and I agree. The melo deal should teach GM’s, you dont gut your team for any one player (unless his name is lebron james or kevin durant)
MarShon stilll holding down the #3 spot
in nba.com’s rookie ladder
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 25, 2012 2:14 PM EST reply actions
As long as Brook gets his money's worth
its not disrespectful
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Wait... really?
KBergCBS Correct. RT @RealStephenW @KBergCBS 5 year deal can only be used on one player per team?
So Dwight and Deron both can’t get 5 years anyway???
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that can't be right
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 25, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
naw
designated players means the 1 guy on your roster who can get a 5-year deal OFF HIS ROOKIE CONTRACT
ESPN article
“But the Wolves, sources said, refused all month to budge on their offer and give Love a fifth year, which would have made him Minnesota’s “designated player.” Based on the NBA’s new collective bargaining agreement, every team is allowed to have one “designated player” who receives a five-year maximum extension on his rookie contract."
by Dep on Jan 25, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
No
That applies to extending rookie contracts. So Dwight and Dwill could receive 5 year contracts. But Marshon and Lopez could not be extended to the maximum five years during the same period. Really this means that if Minnesota has given Love the max, they cannot do that for Rubio.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 25, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
6 to 8 weeks
is a long damn time! plus after Lopez is back surely it’ll be another 1 or 2 weeks before he’s in decent game shape. Just in time to fall just short of a playoff spot.
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
I know it's been like forever
Can you believe it just has been exactly a month since the season started?
feels much longer
I guess that’s a good thing
by sheepareevil on Jan 25, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
wow, it does seem way longer
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
i'm just a little worried this will come back to bite us in the butt
we could be in bad shape if we didn’t get howard
i’m predicting lopez to come back very big, and put up strong numbers with this nets team with d-will and brooks, and now a degree of comfort with hump.
i know it is optimistic but i also think we will start looking a lot better once he is back, and we can finally work through our systems with a post presence
so, what these things would do is 1) make us realize the importance of brook (if we can’t get howard) and 2) drive up his price (especially given he might be available for an undervalue deal now given his injury and last years rebounding anamoly)
Cant worry about that now
because we are ALL IN.
Dwight might bite us in the butt
Dwill might bite us in the butt
Dont worry about Lopez he will get a contract with the Nets with or without Dwight.
Dwill, Brooks, SF, Lopez, Dwight that is the BIGGER PICTURE.
If anything Brook's value has gone down
And despite any numbers he may put up, it’s going to be hard for him to recoup that value because of his injury. It would not have been wise for the Nets to negotiate with Brook on many levels. They need to see him post injury, and they need to keep cap space open for Dwight.
It also may not have been wise for Brook’s agent to negotiate an extension now given his lowered value because of his injury.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 25, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
If his value is lowered, then why would ORL want him, when they didn't want him when he was healthy?
Everything is depending on Lopez returning to pre-season form, so that his value rises again.
Then Net can give ORL the option of Lopez or swapping with someone like Cousins in a 3-4 team deal before the deadline.
Everything also depends on Dwight having Nets has #1 choice, if not his ONLY choice.
briefly browsed the comments about trading brooks
Am I the only person here that thinks that Brooks is untradeable? I mean Dwight is the best C in the league but still, I wouldn’t give up Marshon at all. Unlike Favors who has upside and potential and you wait for him to turn into the next Amare or KG in a few years…Brooks (in the few games he’s played so far) has proven already that He is that dude. That dude that can put up close to star like numbers (20ppg /6 or 7 rebounds/ 4 or 5 assists) i mean come on folks this is a rookie doing this. MBrooks is a star in the making, the next Allen Iverson. Na man i dont give that up for Dwight…anyone else but not brooks. We don’t have to bank on him reaching whatever potential we hope he reaches. He’s doing it NOW…once he puts on some size it’s going to be lights out! You give up brooks i guarentee you that move will haunt this franchise for years to come…yes even for Dwight…just my opinion tho
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