Nets Still Behind Knicks in Rankings
by Net Income on Jan 23, 2012 1:34 PM EST
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PrintThe Power Rankings are out this Monday afternoon and there are two pieces of news: 1) the Nets have made some movement but remain behind the Knicks in each of the rankings, and 2) the team they face Monday evening is unanimously seen as the best in the NBA.
John Schuhmann, who moved the Nets up four places to #24, writes of why things still aren't going their way. "Their opponents are shooting 43 percent from 3-point range, by far the highest rate in the league". Marc Stein, who didn't move the Nets from #26, adds the Nets have "somehow managed to post a lower team shooting percentage from the field than the opposition in (gulp) all 17 games so far."
- Power Rankings: Bulls are No. 1 at the quarter pole - John Schuhmann - NBA.com
- Power Rankings: Banged-up Bulls still NBA's best - Marc Stein - ESPN
- NBA Power Rankings: Injuries Pile Up, But Bulls, Heat Still Excel - Tom Ziller - SB Nation
- NBA Power Rankings: Bulls on top after quarter of season - Kurt Helin - NBC Sports
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by Claud on Jan 23, 2012 1:38 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Nets have "somehow managed to post a lower team shooting percentage from the field than the opposition in (gulp) all 17 games so far."
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by 3ptChucker on Jan 23, 2012 1:44 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
stop posting the same lame thing over and over again
we win 2 out of the last 3 games this week, move up in rankings, all without our top scorer still and you still don’t stop.
by berber on Jan 23, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Yo, Avery, I'll stop when you're gone
FIRE AVERY!!!
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To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
by 3ptChucker on Jan 23, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I dont care why he is posting it, Its just annoying
Find smaller pictures at least
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 23, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
off topic....
Anyone miss Marco G??? But new girl MC is just horrible!!
by kupalski on Jan 23, 2012 1:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I haven't gone to a game yet
but have heard that they managed to do the impossible – find someone worse than Marco G.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 23, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Marco G wasnt that bad! This guy is an absolute mess!!!! From the way he dresses to how he tries to get the crowd motivated!!!!! Horrible…..
by Rp15x on Jan 23, 2012 2:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
Both new emcees are absolutely horrible.
are you talking about the In-Game host?
i don’t have a problem with gina, i think she does a good job.
Strike the Shepherd and the Sheep will Scatter
by JerseyFinest on Jan 23, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta love BSPN
NY has lost 6 games in a row, we are 3-3 in our last 6, yet they are higher
We just beat GS and have the same number of wins, yet they are higher
Detroit has 4 wins, yet they are higher
Doing a PW is not based on logic but gut
These writers are not sure what is it they want to convey, 1 legged bull not really going to beat full steamed thunder so the logic is based on a complex formula where depending on team popularity and the writers status within the system, one can publish.
Its in subtle references that I find the real impressions. For example C webb emphatically said Nets need a big man when Lopez went down. While trade pundits belittle him. Similarly guys who fail to give major props to brooks would say he can score the expression however is the give away regarding their ackwd
by SunilP on Jan 23, 2012 1:51 PM EST via Android app reply actions
What does your gut say about a Nets / Knicks 7 game series?
Suppose the Nets play the Knicks in a 7 game series starting today, what does your gut say about the Nets ability to win 4 games?
My gut says Nets win 2 out of 7 against Knicks.
Knicks are currently better than the Nets. Period.
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I'd say one out of seven.
If it was a seven-game series, I’d probably say a sweep. Maybe the Nets grab one game.
Yeah, I was trying to be generous and give Nets benefit of the doubt, since my fellow posters think I'm just a hater.
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they win more if Lopez plays instead of Okur?
what
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ah.
I agree, I’d pick the Nets in 6 if we have Lopez
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it's not fair to criticize our shooting %
We have one guy who has a higher usage % than Rose or Cousins or Dirk, and is shooting .372. When our real PG gets back from Turkey we’ll never have to play this guy again.
"Good pitching will always stop good hitting and vice-versa." -- Casey Stengel
by calling all toasters on Jan 23, 2012 1:59 PM EST reply actions
Some of you would read this
and be upset about our rankings behind the Knicks who’ve lost 6 straight and to non-playoff teams at that.
Some of you would read this like me:
And see that a team with no cap space, two legitimate “superstars” and an “allstar” defensive C with a lock for ROY is just 1 place above us in the power rankings.
Sweet
by Roccor420 on Jan 23, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
worthless..
that’s their opinion, I can have mine.
-my 1st post here actually, been following this site since the big three.
You may win with offense, but you will never loose by defending..
We are doing better than the knix IMO
The Nets play D, hustle, share the ball, and have more injuries. The knix make excuses. 2 max players and they cant beat the same teams the Nets do.
CHAR Nets win Knix loss
TOR Nets win Knix loss
GS Nets win Knix loss
PHX Nets win Knix loss
im sorry but the nets don't play defense
by Jeffrey Sutton on Jan 23, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
no they play defense
but it’s about as effective as if they didn’t. In fact, sometimes I wish they wouldn’t play defense and just let the opposing team score so we don’t have to foul them after they take the shot and allow them an AND 1 play for 3 points.
In fact, I bet you if we did just that, we’d be 5-6 points closer in each game,.
our schedule has been WAY tougher than the Knicks
not even close
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Dear NetsDaily:
Please un-ban all the people who you are un-wittingly sending over to NetsAreScorching. They are going to clog NAS up in the worst way
can we curse there?
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To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
NAS deserves the attention.
They do good work and Devin is good people.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
And I completely agree- they deserve to have more readers but I am afraid their comment section is going to be abused as a chat room.
I think you’d make a great NAS writer, I’m not sure I’d stand out on the street corner promoting your wares, though.
I cant even figure out how to sign up there lol
main reason I haven’t joined. I like reading their articles though
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After this win tonight
we better move up a few spots
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
NY Giants Tribute
quite a bold statement
im living off the winners high too…lol
10:30 a.m. on february 23, 2011 woke up with no hope.
12:30 p.m. on february 23, 2011 hope was born
D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stein has the Knicks at #25
One spot ahead of the Nets.
Good thing they have Carmelo Anthony, superstar... otherwise, who knows where they'd be?
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
OT: Kim Kardashian insane story of the day, explaining her divorce
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/kim-kardashian-got-a-divorce-because-her-dads-ghost-told-her-to/
Texas slang in a Big Apple minute, by a friendly OED consultant. http://www.barrypopik.com
The same Daddy Ghost who told her to do porn?
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To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
by 3ptChucker on Jan 23, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO
Well, this explains all the booing that Humphries has been getting. That’s actually just ghosts saying "Boo!" How spooky!
by Anthony Perez on Jan 23, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting SWAG Stat
mySynergySports mySynergySports
30.6% of MarShon Brooks’s possessions are Isos, he’s scoring 0.99 Points Per-Iso. Thats a top-10 mark in the NBA.
Kid is doing work. I just paid a mint for one of these.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Didnt even realize a quarter of the season is over
its going by fast.
by cprash on Jan 23, 2012 2:40 PM EST via Android app reply actions
yup after tonite it will be 1/4 of the season done..
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yeah
in a regular season there’d be another 2-3 weeks maybe of games before the season was 25% done.
For all the 0-17 or 2-12 guys before earlier in the season when the world was ending,
5-12 isn’t too shabby. we’re not 6-12 which is what I was hoping for (low standards) but pretty close. All in all, we beat the teams we should’ve (except for one) and lost to all the ones we knew we were going to.
if we win tonight we will be 6-12 :)
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by Claud on Jan 23, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If we win tonight, I'll stop bashing Avery for .... 3 days. Promise.
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To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
Ha.
I won’t. His rotations are still bad and play calling leaves much to be desired. Still cannot blame him for all our losses… most times it comes down to health and talent tbh.
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I'm not letting him off that easy
there have been i don’t know how many times where a TIMEOUT call was necessary I feel but not called. Usually this is when the opposing team is going on a scoring run and we wait till we’re down 15 before we take a Timeout. AND when the team is running around like they have their heads cut off and no idea what they doing, avery needs to run a damn play or at least settle his team down. Don’t get me wrong, i’m very happy with carlesimo as our assistant coach but Avery leads a lot to be desired.
The only plus side is he’s at least not sitting our starters for no good reason or just giving up on the 3rd. I want effort to the very last second of the clock damn it. I should be able to expect that as a fan shortened season or not.
From Poasting and Toasting :
I think we have the talent to win a championship but we just don’t have the coach to motivate the team. I time we get rid of Pringles and call up Phil Jackson and ask him how much do you want to coach the Knicks. You know he will guide us to a championship. He has won as well all remember with the Bulls and then pulled it of with the Lakers. I don’t think the players believe in D’Antoni anymore and being that this is a short season it would be better to get rid of him now bring in Jackson get to the playoffs and see what we we can do. I am not saying he is not a good coach D’Antoni is a good coach but we need a great coach to handle this Knicks team!
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 23, 2012 2:41 PM EST reply actions
I mean, I agree. D’Antoni is not a good coach, despite what this post says. He has no control over his players.
D'Antoni is an OK coach
but Like we’ve said many times before, the coach can only do so much, it comes down to talent, chemistry, commitment from the players, etc
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LoL they don't have enough to win a championship over the Thunder, Bulls or Heat
There’s a reason they are 6-10.
Typical delusional BS Knicks fan say
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Disagree.
Talent-wise, they’re right up there with the Thunder and Bulls.
I think this is a rough-patch; I still expect the Knicks to be in the conference championship.
CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!
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by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 23, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Laughable at this point
Melo/Amare haven’t played well together since the trade and nothing suggests that will change significantly enough where the Knicks are better than the Bulls/Heat/Magic/Pacers etc.
They look atrocious
it’s reasonable to think they will turn it around to some degree, but conference championship? Come on dude.
Like I said, we'll see.
I think people are significantly underestimating what B-Diddy’s impact will be.
wait is this 2007
dude has a bad back, hasn’t played in a long time and he will put them in the conference finals? even with the back-to back- to backs? dude will get injured 10 days after he comes back. they will have to monitor his PT.
still RIDICULOUS statement.
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All I can say is "we'll see."
If you don’t mind, remember that I said the Knicks would bounce back in a big way. At the minimum, the Knicks will get to the second-round.
You can mock me if it doesn’t come to fruition.
I won't mock you
I just find your logic amusing.
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Personally
I think Amare looks horrible.
He has no lift and his game mirrors KG’s now. All perimeter shots with no explosiveness.
Not to mention his defense has been horrific.
Unless he turns it around the Knicks will struggle all year.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 23, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It would be nice if you had any statisical basis for your opinions.
At least then, we could understand where you were coming from.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
I don't.
Just my gut.
I could certainly be wrong. Obviously, I don’t think that I am.
Then any time you get into arguments
You demand others to quote stats.
LOL
by Anthony Perez on Jan 23, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
But this is a speculative discussion. There are no stats for such a subject.
Good try, though.
You could try citing Baron Davis' stats from last season
That would at least be an attempt.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 23, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn't really serve a point.
Davis has a significant amount of weight since last season. He’s also (presumably) motivated — over the course of his career, we’ve seen that a motivated Baron Davis is a whole different animal.
That’s why I keep saying: we’ll see.
So you're basically saying "funk the stats"
I can’t agree with that. Davis’ true talent level has been established by his performance the last several seasons.
Even if he’s more “motivated” now, he’s also older (33 in April).
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
you may have something there though
Don’t get me wrong I love putting the knicks down whenever there is an opportunity, but talent wise they are much better than the Nets regardless.
When they did the trade for Chandler the first thought came to mind that that is top 3 or at least top 5 frontcourt in the NBA. I honestly thought the knicks would rock out with their moiso out this year. They don’t have a “real” PG but let’s be honest, with that front court initially I thought ND and NI could join the knicks as their 1 and 2 and chuck the ball towards the basket and Knicks would do well.
That apparently is not the case, they have no flow of offense because of Melo. Say what you want about Amare but before Melo got there (with good role players) Amare was able to lead a Knicks back into the spotlight.
With Melo on the team he is a chucker, takes way too many shots for that team to develop any offensive flow.
Chandler only fits on that team as a defensive big and he is playing well, not sure why that team is playing so badly.
There would be reasons for optimism
Except that two players who are grossly underperforming (Amare/Toney Douglas) are also coming off injuries. Baron Davis would have to turn the clock back to 2008 to help them in any significant way. Otherwise, it’s impossible to project him as anything more than a very mild upgrade on Iman Shumpert.
They need a real PG. They need the real Amare to show up. They need a coach that demands defensive intensity. Until those things happen, they are going to be a disappointment.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Baron Davis has been a solidly below-average NBA PG for years now.
And now he’s dealing with a bad back.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
they are like 20-28 since the melo trade
they were better off WITHOUT Melo
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It's not really that they were better off without him
It’s that Melo was overrated to begin with and the players Denver got for him were underrated (in total and individually).
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Disagree.
By playoff time, they’ll have Iman Shumpert and Kenyon Martin coming off the bench. Douglas, Walker and Harrellson are decent.
hahaha that's some funny ish man
I doubt they even make the playoffs.
right up there with the Thunder and Bulls talent-wise?
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by Claud on Jan 23, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
as much talent as OKC and CHI?
I don’t think you realize how good the Bulls and Thunder are.
Why are we talking about the Knicks more than the Nets
what the hell does this have to do with anything?
Because, in some ways, they are far more interesting than the Nets right now.
I might be a Nets fan, but i’m also a basketball fan. I watch the Knicks and Wolves almost as much as I watch the Nets.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
That's great
and I don’t mind talking about the Knicks or any other team for that matter from time to time.
90% of the posts over the past 2 days have been in regards to the Knicks. It’s absurd.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 23, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Again. The Knicks are interesting.
The Nets are a mess. If the Nets were winning, we’d be talking about them all the time.
But you’re point is well taken. It’s been overkill lately and i’m as guilty of it as anyone else.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
I don't think Phil makes that team a championship contender.
Unless Melo and Amare turn into plus defenders, I don’t see any chance of that happening.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
He is a crap coach, the team is built like crap.
And Phil Jackson didn’t retire from Kobe and the Lakers to coach Carmella and the rest of his no D chucking friends.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
MDB got banned?
lol what did he do?
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Just curious -- have no idea so I'm curious
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
i think NetsDaily said it was not permanent
excuse my bad english please
NetsDaily wouldn't permanently ban MDB
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To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
Oh. We need a bulletin board of banned posters and their infractions. Can't keep up otherwise.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
just go to NAS
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 23, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
they need to tweak that roster. add new blood. like a pg.
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To be successful, apparently Avery's Defense System requires it to be manned by NBA All-Defensive Team.
Someone who's played there before, perhaps?
I wonder who that could be….
"Good pitching will always stop good hitting and vice-versa." -- Casey Stengel
by calling all toasters on Jan 23, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
and who would you take from the Lakers?
or just trade him into their TPE (which I doubt they would do), but I would
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 23, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Steve Blake
for Mo Williams.
Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jan 23, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Nets also behind Spurs in rankings
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Speaking of the Knicks
Could they have an easier schedule to start the season?
They’ve played sub .500 teams all season and have gotten mad breaks. They play Denver on Denver’s 5th game in 7 nights (on the road) and the Knicks play at home, then have 2 days off….to prepare for the BOBCATS.
Our schedule is brutal Febuary is supposedly our easy month its still rough
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
again
Don’t care about rankings, but we are hanging in there…and not many other bad teams have a potential 20 ppg and 8 rpg player coming in soon.
by netsfanbq on Jan 23, 2012 4:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Melo for Howard?
Forget Amare+Chandler for Howard, what if the Knicks trade Melo instead. Melo could be that replacement big star Orlando wants. Knicks could then send Chandler elsewhere, for a point or wing or cap space to sign somebody next season.
Yep, as it’s Howard, this is Nets-related speculation.
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