Stern on D12 Departure: It Happens
by Net Income on Jan 22, 2012 9:26 AM EST
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PrintThe Orlando Sentinel's Josh Robbins peppered David Stern with questions recently about Dwight Howard's likely departure from central Florida but if Magic fans thought they'd hear him say nice things about players staying in small markets, they had to be disappointed.
Stern gave Robbins no quarter on the freedom of player movement from small to big markets, wouldn't even concede Orlando is a small market. "I think this is not a life-threatening event when players move," said Stern at one point. "It depends upon who replaces them and how the community rallies around them."
Meanwhile, Stefan Bondy writes that "a source familiar with the Nets thinking" told him the Nets are prepared to "wait out the Magic and try to sign Howard as a free agent, rather than deal Deron Williams out of fear they’ll lose both". It's further evidence, Bondy argues, that the Nets still believe they are Howard's top choice.
- David Stern discusses Dwight Howard, the new collective bargaining agreement and his future - Josh Robbins - Orlando Sentinel
- Sources are source of aggravation for Deron Williams - Stefan Bondy - The InterNets
- Steve Luhm: Deron Williams to Dallas? It wouldn’t be a surprise - Steve Luhm - Salt Lake Tribune
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I do not know
How stern does not see how bad it is for a handful of stars to run a league
Im sure he does.
Theres just nothing he can do about it.
by Clayton Balch on Jan 22, 2012 9:33 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
What do you mean? Isn't the new CBA in effect now...?
And you really can’t keep guys in the same market if they don’t want to be there no matter how much incentive there is to stay.
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
How is it bad?
Top. Itch ratings, thrilling NBA Finals, and daily news coverage of star players movement.
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by eLonepb on Jan 22, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It is also reality
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
excatly you think he wants more Spurs/Pistons
or more Heat/Mavericks, Lakers/Celtics
not only that but if this goes through this taps into the NY rivalry which has basically been untapped since the merger.
Look at how ridiculous the ratings are for Clippers and Lakers games now. Nets and Knicks would double that if both teams were legit playoff teams
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 22, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
I think we are a top choice for Howard, but we cannot have a mediocre season via 2009's 12-wins
Once you put yourself in a hole that big, you blacklist yourself and your players and kill any chance of anyone ever coming, except for Outlaw and Petro.
yes
But if DH comes in free agency, best believe all that changes instantly.
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 22, 2012 9:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I definitely
see that point.
The only thing that keeps me hopeful is that the Heat were terrible for 1 or 2 years right before Lebron and Bosh went there.
well...
in the two season immediately preceding their arrival, the heat had winning records. you’re thinking of three seasons before, when they only won 15 games.
by Dolphins_Nets on Jan 22, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
We're not having that bad a season
2 games out of the playoffs with 50 games left.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
No we're having an awful year
We’re just lucky other teams are as well.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
I'm not looking at other teams as a barometer
We’re getting blown out. It’s been a miserable season so far.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
If we’re 2 games out of the playoffs but still in contention for the #1 pick in the draft, that just means it’s too early in the season to be making any sort of judgement on the kind of season teams are having. Give it another 20 games for things to shake out, then.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
No we’re having an awful year
We’re just lucky other teams are as well.
Awful is a term relative to other things. If other teams are having awful years like the Nets, you’re saying none of those teams is. So, no, we’re not having an awful year, imo. For example, you can’t be driving slowly if the others cars are driving the same speed as you.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Makes no sense
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
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by eLonepb on Jan 22, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
sure you can if theres 20 cars in the fast lane going 70 mph
and you and 5 other cars are going 30 in the slow lane, you are going slow.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
You're introducing those "20 cars in the fast lane" into your argument when Elone didn't
So no fair!
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
and the team in eighth is in free fall
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
i would keep an eye on Indiana as well, their schedule has been heavily favored, losing to most top tier teams
Our schedule will start to get easier, bout the same time Lopez comes back
oops, just wrote the same thing. :) But yep, this is good perspective.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
This summer better be the best summer of my lifee...
by YOUNG NET on Jan 22, 2012 9:40 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Please cryogenically freeze me
And thaw me out on June 30
Plan B all the way: Brook, Brooks, and whoever
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 22, 2012 9:41 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
ok
That will be $2,750,000.00 plus applicable taxes and monthly storage fees.
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 22, 2012 9:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
and sorry
we only have enough room to store your head.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 22, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Defrost Ted!
bought that t-shirt outside Fenway back in 2004.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 22, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You mean my brain?
That’s my second favorite organ!
(Woody Allen reference)
Plan B all the way: Brook, Brooks, and whoever
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 22, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
nets should wait it out
If they can keep Brooks & the first round pick….then sign D-Will & Howard, this team is instantly a CHAMPIONSHIP contender.
i dont watch enough college ball
is mkg really better than Barnes?
by tategeorge on Jan 22, 2012 9:56 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
We probably won't have that high a draft pick
So we should compromise a bit on who we slot in for our draft selection.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Yes i think we would have a high pick, mkg is projected around #8
Especially with us playing with this team until the season end, depends on what king does actually, he might flip the pick with someone for a proven player if its not dwight but i like to keep that and get mkg or lamb
Where do you project Harrison Barnes?
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Oh ok. I misunderstood you, then. My fault. :)
I figured most people had Barnes and MKG reversed, but admittedly I don’t know much about college bb prospects.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Haha its cool man
I’m no college bb expert as well so those are just my opinion, hope everything goes well for the nets with whoever we are picking in the end, king is the expert in drafting so i trust him whether is it mkg or barnes(if we get to pick them at all)..
I go to high school in Jersey
and i saw MKG play in person.He was dominant, I knew he was going to the nba as soon as I saw him
Then i found out the next day he’s commiting to Kentucky
by Prash Ramani on Jan 22, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Or at least a very good playoff team
And then we make refinements over the ensuing couple years.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
this is a crazy game of chicken being played
between the nets, dwight, magic, and DWill. funny how they each use media leaks and “sources” to improve their respective positions.
by tategeorge on Jan 22, 2012 9:54 AM EST via Android app reply actions
The real issue is
Knowing dh12’s commitment. Who’s side is he on? If the nets feel they know for sure his intentions then they have to play it out
that is what i am talking about.
it is foolish for them to say they would rather take their chances with nothing over marshon and lopez.
by tategeorge on Jan 22, 2012 9:59 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
no it isn't
they have a very real chance to compete for a championship this season and they would be foolish to throw that away. The only team in the league I think they definitely would have no chance against in a 7 game series is Miami.
by GrandKenyon6 on Jan 22, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
a very realy chance?
no way they make it to the conference finals against teams like bulls, miami, and even philly i don’t see it happening
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
bulls would wipe the floor with them, and I hope they get the chance would make me so happy to root for my local team against the magic to improve the nets chances to get d12
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
the magic are soo stupid right now
this is going to end up like cleveland except there will be no “Decision” dwight will just fly to NJ walk into Billy’s office with a pen and sign his contract and then go shopping in Downtown Newark
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
Yeah I don't get it
of all the teams that lost big stars the last two years I think it’s pretty obvious that the ones who traded made out much better than the ones who rolled the dice waiting for free agency.
one does not simply walk into mordor...unless winter is coming
I don't believe it
The owner came out and said to trade him if he doesn’t change his trade request.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Here
Owner Rich DeVos and family have given the order: Unless Howard changes his mind, the Magic will deal Dwight and not let him walk like Shaq did 15 years ago.
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eLonepb, thanks for the link!
J-Kidd to D-Will
we reported it.
but there is a lot of conflicting information.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Doesn't prevent it, you just can't get the 5th year
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The"article" seems to be based on unsubstantiated statements
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 22, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
after what Lebron and Bosh did, not buying it
Lebron won 124 games his last two years in Cleveland and still left them out dry
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 22, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Shaq had declared Bynum the NBA’s best center, and Smith had blamed Howard’s courtship of Chris Paul and Deron Williams for the uneven play of point guard Jameer Nelson. "He indirectly [threw] him under the bus," Smith told the Orlando Sentinel.
Anyone want tickets to tonight's game?
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by downtownbrown77 on Jan 22, 2012 10:01 AM EST reply actions
lmao yeah thats ALLLLLL they need, not asking for much!
. All that needs to happen in the Eastern Conference playoffs are Derrick Rose and Dwyane Wade going down,
lol and smh at the same time
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
thats messed up
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
by nets14 on Jan 22, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I feel bad but I laughed
"I just copped me an all-things, a professional ball team
Tell me I ain't the illest hustler ya'll seen"
Learn Dwight, learn !!!
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Easy for him to say now that he got his money
I guess he’s subtly saying Knicks should have refused to trade for him and instead he would have liked to go to the Nets! Yeah, I’ll run with that.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Point is, he could've told the Nix I'm coming regardless, so don't give up the kitchen sink.
Same would be if D12 told D-Will to tell BK …“Do not give up Marshon, I’m coming either way”
BK can turn around and play hardball, and not give up the kitchen sink.
Point is, he could’ve told the Nix I’m coming regardless
But at the time, he was worried about getting his money in advance of the new CBA, which is why he didn’t say that. Thus, it’s easy for him to say now, in retrospect, that he should have told the Knicks he was coming regardless, now that he has his money and knows what the new CBA permits.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
I hear you ... "couldv'e" I'm saying....
Maybe he would give up some money to win the bling!
But who knows maybe all he cares is money anyway ….
im sure melo and la la was singing C.R.E.A.M.
Cash rules everything around me, cream get the money, dollar dollar bill y’all
"There's only one Keith Van Horn!"
-Kieth Van Horn
by Kieth Van Horn on Jan 22, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Cash Rules......
“I grew up on the Crime Side, the New York Time Side”
J-Kidd to D-Will
staying alive was no jive**
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 22, 2012 11:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
At second hands, Moms bounced on old Men
J-Kidd to D-Will
than
We moved to shaolin lands…
They dont music like this anymore…
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 22, 2012 1:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
“Pants second hand”
He’s talking about hand me downs.
by power_njerz on Jan 22, 2012 2:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
about $40 million difference
to him by signing last year.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
I understand that; D12 difference would be around $30 mill.
Point is, however, that Denver and Orl in this case would do the trade or get nothing.
In our case with ORL, is it better Lopez, Morrow, pick and flexibility or nothing.
I just hope it happens to allow us to keep Marshon.
Despite all of that, I am of school of thought that you get D12 no matter what if you have the chance to do it …
I just want to take a moment to remind everyone of that time when I said I would rather trade for AI-2 than Carmelo
and people said I was crazy.
I’m just saying is all.
one does not simply walk into mordor...unless winter is coming
not me
if I said anything, it was along the lines of “I’d rather have Crash, but AI is OK too”
BTW, hello stranger!
"Good pitching will always stop good hitting and vice-versa." -- Casey Stengel
by calling all toasters on Jan 22, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
haha. Deron dislikes the Rock.
http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=9106
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
i dont like the rock eitehr
last year..first visit i liked comapred to IZOD….but is really a BLAH place with horrible food
It's funny cause we can't make a big deal about "OUR" thing!
But if this was against us, BSPN would be all over it.
“Dwill is leaving …bla bla bla ???? #amazing
from a fan standpoint
I think its nice and i actually like the food (mostly im in ice lounge)…zeppolis are awesome…
But i can see how he doesnt like it…it doesnt feel like an ‘NBA’ arena.
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 22, 2012 11:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If the place was packed like in SLC
A d those fans were cheering for a winning basketball team, deron would love the Rock
Orl is trading him.
Whether its to us or some other team. No way do they let him go for nothing. I don’t care what Otis smith says about possibly holding on to him. There fan base will turn that new arena into a ghost town if they let Dwight go for nothing!
technically not nothing
if you think about it the departure of howard through free agency would not only give the magic a shot to win the championship this year, but it would clrear up howard gigantic salary and they would be able to sign free agents, possibly even brook lopez if they wanted, then they rebuild. remember it was rebuilding that got the magic Howard in the first place, the devos say they want to give themselves the best chance of wining NOW, howard is definitely their best chance, then rebuild, its the best of both worlds
by King Of Russia on Jan 22, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
that being said
the magic need to realize they arent winning it all this year with howard and they should be trading with the nets who have various key pieces which will help the magic in the rebuilding process, like the 5 first rounders we offered up, lopez, and dare i say Starshon Brooks
by King Of Russia on Jan 22, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Shaping up to be the "Decision II" if Orlando plays it out.
And I am SURE Dwill and Dwight do NOT want a repeat of that. I think that changed a whole. country’s perspective of LeBron. Their PR people will want to keep that exploration very private. So in free agency, wherever Dwill signs, we will see Dwight follow. But I’m sure that will be after some harrowing days where they are hearing mark Cubans pitch and from JKidd on how they were in the finals in NJ and still could not fill the stands the next year.
Ownership is key and Proky has definitely raised the status of the organization with his open checkbook,level of professionalism, and desire to win it all. What we lack there is years of consistency but as long as people believe Proky is long term, that should not be a problem. The Buss transition in LA has tons of unkowns and smells bad. The dumping of Odom reminded me of the Nets not paying up for Kmart.
It’s always interesting but I do think we have a good shot if Howard isn’t traded and Orlando goes all in. If Orlando does win it all, I think Dwill will go to Orlando unfortunately. Even if they are just in the finals, it’s a close call.
by whoopdeedamndo on Jan 22, 2012 11:07 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm not very savvy of what's legal or not in this league but...
can Dwight’s agent communicate with Billy King on behalf of Howard? If Howard would commit to the Nets he would just tell them so, keeping Billy from gutting the roster and waiting for free agency.
That is, off course, considering Nets really are Dwight’s first option.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
It's a good question...
I’m sure the agent is able to convey what kind of team the Nets would need to be for Howard to sign as a free agent. If the permission they obtained did not allow that, the Nets would basically be operating with an understanding that all it would take is Dwill and a lot of cap space. Nets should also deem Marshon untouchable at this point too. At least at this point in the discussion.
by whoopdeedamndo on Jan 22, 2012 11:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
as I understand..
Dwight’s agent has been permitted only to talk with Nets regarding trade scenarios to the deadline, thus making any kind of commitment to signing with the Nets in the off-season illegal.
If such a commitment would be possible it would certainly take a lot of pressure off Billy to try and manage a blockbuster deal by deadline.
I wonder if there ever was such kind of commitment between Lebron, Bosh and Miami’s management before free agency period.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
wfan guy this morning
Was saying nets and knicks should swap melo for dwill
"There's only one Keith Van Horn!"
-Kieth Van Horn
by Kieth Van Horn on Jan 22, 2012 11:11 AM EST reply actions
not sure that anyone wants to play with melo
As he’s neutralized his teammates
"There's only one Keith Van Horn!"
-Kieth Van Horn
by Kieth Van Horn on Jan 22, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
even if i knew dwill was walking at year's end
i would not do that deal……he would stunt marshon brooks’ growth tremendously
look at landry fields….not saying fields is in brooks’ class, but he was a pretty serviceable player pre-melo, after the trade he was rendered absolutely useless
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 22, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
If Dwill is gone, it doesn't help the Nets at all to get Melo, it's not like they'll be contenders or anything
Better to get the highest draft pick they can
Melo's offensive game is great
He needs to learn to be a team player…but maybe thats coaches fault?
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 22, 2012 11:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who said this? Mike Francesa?
Mike was on at 8am. Or was it a guest he had on? I’m surprised they talked basketball today.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
this is pretty scary
But the Nets have lost Damion James indefinitely, and he will undergo surgery on his right foot Tuesday to replace the screw he had inserted last year to help repair a fractured fifth metatarsal in the foot.
Read more: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=9107#ixzz1kCjd3y9f
this is the same surgery brook had…..he better not rush it
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 22, 2012 11:16 AM EST reply actions
although speaking with a surgeon friend of mine who's
pretty highly respected, he says that a screw in the 5th metatarsal if rehabbed correctly usually doesnt go awry
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 22, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Pretty bad luck for D James to basically lose two years to one injury that just won't let up
Still think he can develop to a decent bench player
especially since he never was seriously injured before he went pro
played like 98% possible games in his 4 years at Texas
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 22, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
2 years in a row for D.James
Hope he stashed some $ away
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 22, 2012 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
yep whats his deal ?
Is it the same injury as the last one?
by iambryan on Jan 22, 2012 11:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not really a "new" injury
Problem with the screw used to fix the injury last time. Not really ready to call him injury prone since it’s one injury. He hasn’t been plagued by a ton of different injuries but one injury
i feel good about the idea
that if D12 is not traded to LA, that he will end up in BK after the season. with that being said, people really need to start taking it easy on deron. He clearly is just frustrated with his own play more then anything else. but it is his presence alone that is giving us the potential of having dwight and a lineup that will provide fans with the best 4 years of basketball of their lives…
we arent mad at his play
Its the lack of hustle, lack of drive, lackluster performances, giving up on plays, looks like he would rather be home playing modern warfare on his 70 inch led screen with 7.1 surround sound system with fiber optic connections…
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 22, 2012 11:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
that is just simply not true
people dont like that he is shooting 35%… which has nothing to do with effort…
people dont like that his TO’s are up… which is because he is trying to do too much because outside of marshawn nobody on the team could take me to the hoop 1 on 1.
You either believe in the process or you dont. Deron is a world class player, and is here to get d12 here. Either you believe in it or you dont. If you dont, then keep whining, if you do, then see it for what it is.
There is a lot of overrating of other players on the team that goes on… the team with brook out is horrible.
by Hitdog42 on Jan 22, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
im all for dwight or bust
I see the big picture..hell ill goto cvs to pick up the prints…all we r asking is for dwill to show more leadership…its easy to be a leader when u have all stars next to you…lets see him show true leadership with this squad…not asking for wins…asking for nba grade effort by nba players day in and day out, they are in the league for a reason….dudes cant possibly be this bad!!
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 22, 2012 12:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
his teammates are this bad
true leadership stuff, is just nonsense. ask brooks how much deron is helping him…. that is leadership that matters.
playing with a bunch of stiffs who are ZERO threat on offense, will bread frustration, turnovers, and poor body language at times. its called being human
well he isnt making $17 million a year
To be human…suck it up Deron!!!
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 22, 2012 1:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i like mucho nachos at the rock
Those things are bangin
by iambryan on Jan 22, 2012 11:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Did not know Jordan Williams was on Netsdaily
Glad that some of the Nets players appreciate the Rock…
by whoopdeedamndo on Jan 22, 2012 11:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
lol
Jwill isnt even ‘fat’ though…thats main reason i find these jokes funny
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 22, 2012 11:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i feel Dan Fegan is pushing D12 hard to Brooklyn
there’s a lot of incentives for him to get D12 to BK…
Don’t you guys feel as if he’s giving the Nets the INSIDE SCOOP on everything goin on with D12
One consistency through all this drama has been that the Nets continually remain confident that they will land Howard via trade or free agency.
Also, its hard to deny how valuable it is for D12 to come to a non-gutted Nets in free agency. Look at Melo….btw nets fans shoud tweet that Al Ianazzone tweet to Howard
It's all a foregone conclusion
Dwught, deron, Fegan… They all know what is going to happen. It’s naive to think that meaningless games during a meaningless season of the NBA are going to affect the outcome here
WOW.....Rev Run comes to my store all the time
im gonna run that by him LOL
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 22, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
sorry wrong reply
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 22, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
I think BKing
has been told by Fegan that Dwight wants to be in Brooklyn.
If Fegan didnt think Dwight wanted to come here, Why would he not push for NENE to come to Brooklyn instead?
Another thing remember Dwight was in Brooklyn over the summer. It must have been for one of the companies that endorse him maybe Adidas. Adidas most likely wants to Dwight in NY. Just think about the Adidas ads. I can see a Run DMC NY type ad. “My Adidas…”
by SIC One on Jan 22, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
WOW...Rev Run comes to my store all the time
Im gonna run that by him LOL
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 22, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
we should all be rooting for the Magic to do well through the 1st and 2nd round of the playoffs...
As Nets fans we can root for that and for Deron and MarShon to continue developing chemistry. Hopefully Lopez comes back into form as well
they do want him in NY
thats the reason he hasn’t gotten an extension with them yet. It would be huge for their company to have Dwight Howard in the NY area because they would have two of their flagship athletes in two of the top cities in the country.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 22, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Man oh Man
when i feel down about this teams play, i head over to youtube, and watch highlights of Marshon Brooks’ young career so far…..and then i like to read the comments……and it is very very very rare to see people gushing about a nets player…..the kid has “IT”
This makes me think, if we were to land howard we would most certainly miss out on this kid brooks blossoming into a superstar before our very eyes….people compare him to jamal crawford, but i doubt jamal came out gangbusters putting up 20 spots in his first month in the nba!!! The scoring ability, the length, the improving passing, he will only get better and better……..#keepmarshonatallcosts
Tell orlando, it’s brook lopez, some exprining deals, and our #1 draft pick and even houstons pick, but no marshon brooks!!!!!
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 22, 2012 11:34 AM EST reply actions
i do too man...
i’ve actually downloaded all of the MarShon Channel videos on my iPad…watch em when i’m bored.
The kid is just so sick. For me, his footwork, post up game, pump fakes, ability to create space, and use the glass so effectively are what seperate him from a player like Nick Young.
He’s so crafty and he CAN pass. I feel confident from the way he has passed in more recent games that he will become more and more effective at getting his teammates involved. Just look at the progression of the videos. He really starts passing better and better as the games go on.
we have added a link under Blogs to the Marshon Channel.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
As for all the Losing...
As long as D-will sees the vision of next year, i don’t mind all the losing. I just wish he would hang his head a lot lesss and stop whining.
For me this year is all about watching Brooks and hoping him and MarShon get some good chemistry together. I like the idea of getting a high draft pick because (1) it either helps us in a trade (2) we pick up Gilchrist, Barnes, or Lamb next year (3) we flip the draft pick, Brook, or both for more proven talent after hopefully getting D12
Lets keep positive Nets fans. The assets + MarSwag + Dwill and Dwiights idea of playing together in Brooklyn is what we are riding on and that is very solid.
We’re not riding with a player neutralizer like Melo, we don’t got 100 million unisured knees trying to fit with an overpaid Chandler.
The Nets have bigger things in mind.
this team we have this year has little to no chemistry...but
BK’s ultimate goal is to put a team together that has it. With the flexibility that they have with all their assets, D12 and Deron can’t help but believe that they will have the flexibility to put together a REAL REAL contender.
I think D12 will take less money just like the Heat trio took paycuts to not compromise flexibility.
The Lopez injury hurt us in so many ways
Wish we could borrow the Suns staff
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yea man
What wouldve been…what couldve been..
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 22, 2012 12:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It takes a moiso to write a moisotic article. But it takes a super moiso to keep moisoin bringing it up over and over again
From Sheridanhoops.com – Power Ranking
LAST WEEK: 1-3 THIS WEEK: 4 games KEY GAME: MON at LAC
Every week, they move up a wee bit. Deron Williams came out and said the Prudential Center is a cold dump. He should have seen it before they removed the rat traps and installed massive space heaters.
He is, the most moisoin’ Man in the World.
More from the Moiso
MAVERICKS
(10-7) LAST WEEK: 2-2 THIS WEEK: 3 games KEY GAME: FRI vs UTA
Dirk Nowitzki, out with a sore knee, has averaged at last 20 points for 11 straight seasons. He is at 17.5 this season, with lowest FG pct (.456) and 3-point percent (23.5) since his rookie season. Second-leading scorer is Jason Terry at 13.8, and he doesn’t start. Watch for a Shawn Marion trade, the key to getting both D12 and DWill.
why do you read this guys mioso.
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
this is true though
they have to trade marion to get both dwill and d12
i dont see what’s wrong with what he’s saying
I would also watch for the Nets to dump more salary
They could get rid of Morrow and Farmar and maybe Petro in the same vein as the Mavs with Marion.
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And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
he does it so we go over to his site
why waste your time over there
by mightymosdefinition on Jan 22, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Any takers?
Deron, Marshon, and Farmar for Melo, Shumpert, and Landry Fields
I haven’t tried it on the ESPN thingy yet. But I’m sure it could get “done” in some fashion if both teams wanted to. I’d prefer to keep Deron and Marshon, but its a possible doomsday scenario that I kind of like actually. Deron n D12 is plan A obviously, but this doesn’t seem like a bad plan B to me.
plz no
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't trade Deron.
But if I had to, I wouldn’t include MarShon. Only way I like giving away MarShon is for Dwight. But if Dwight isn’t getting traded, then I am okay with waiting for the off-season, and hoping Deron stays + Dwight comes too
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
No, but I would rather lose Deron for nothing
and have tons of cap space, + our lottery pick, then take Melo and his contract.
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
sure he is
but I can’t see us doing much as a team if we just swap Deron for Melo. Might as well start from scratch if we are going to lose Deron
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
We would still have cap space this summer for more people.
I don’t think Melo is a bad guy to build a team around. The Knicks aren’t doing so hot this year, but it is still early. Melo and the nuggets did very well together too.
dont think the nets want very well aka first rd playoff exit, and knicks lost 6 in a row thats not "doing so hot" its down right turrrrrible.
they want to build something better, they want dwight and deron and see where that brings us.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Did you read my post at all?
Plan A is obviously Deron and D12. I made that clear from the beginning. Melo is just a plan B. Please read the original post next time.
he is a slouch and hes worse then brooks, guy can go 5-25 any given night with tons of turnovers, hes not a starting pg on a good team at this point of his career.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, and been impressive in maybe a handful of those games...and played like garbage the rest, dont think this team has any interest in him at all.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
i said dont think
one would hope he doesnt have interest in someone who has played as bad as shumpert.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
He is the number 4 rated rookie on nba.com's rookie ladder
Brooks is number 3. He is better than you’re giving him credit for.
i don't understand why he is so high
nba.com rookie ladder is kind of a joke. They only consider basic stats (points, rebounds, assists). They don’t even mention shumpert has a terrible FG%, and shoots like he’s kobe
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
he is also on a team with 3 all stars who being on the court with him leaves him open for multiple shots and he responds by missing them and forcing turnovers
who is marshon brooks playing with again? deron williams and noone else that will help brooks succeed offensively, there are serviceable players for sure like hump, but noone the caliber of amare or chandler which is gonna force the offense to double team, or focus on keeping a body on at all times like chandler and amare. and yes hes #4 and also super hyped up because hes playing in the garden on a knicks team who is now in a freefall losing their 6th game in a row.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
this seems like a terrible plan b, if they end up trading deron which is very unlikely, they are gonna call his bluff, but even if they dont theres no way they get rid of marshon too
plus shump and landry fields are nothing special they dont sweeten this deal at all.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
We don't know much
we are just the fans. I’m sure Billy knows what he’s doing
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
seems like a plan to me, he would have to leave millions of dollars on the table, why trade away deron and brooks our 2 best players on the floor right now for melo and 2 backups level players?
when we can wait and see if dwight signs here in the offseason.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
this is how I feel
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Once again, I'm not advocating for the nets to actively pursue this.
But if we end up having an awful record and Deron makes it clear he wants to leave, then we’re in a tough position. Obviously if this happens then we’re not getting d12 and deron. Then and only then would I suggest trying to something like this. I’m all ears if you guys have a better plan…
for D12I dont understand why people are saying 4 yr- 80.5M vs 5yr 110M its one year more at 20M which he could make up after 4 yr contract is done so the difference is only 10M
If the nets are sure that they can sign Howard and.......
DWILL also knows this than I hope that the plan is that we are Tanking purposely and DWILL is acting out his role as an emotionally upset superstar………Then we wil have Howard.DWILL,Brooks,LOTTERY PICK and Lopez……….WIN WIN……
no thanks
shump isnt worth that, would rather farmar and morrow go in an oj mayo type deal.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Stern on D12 Departure:
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
by GMJigga on Jan 22, 2012 12:26 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
What does Disco Stu have to say about it?
by Rudibager on Jan 22, 2012 12:33 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Is that Billy King in the bottom right!???!!!???
:)
by Prash Ramani on Jan 22, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
that's Ghaseem
billy sits in section 19, alone with his thoughts.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Unless I'm harassing him
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
If not Billy King, the Brooks family
eLonepb: the celebrity shmoozer of NetsDaily. If you get any more famous you’ll be dating a Kardashian yourself!
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
lols
Dude stays w young chicks right??
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 22, 2012 1:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He was with some guy who looked like he could be Stu's son
The son was pretty drunk and hitting on every woman in the area though… Especially the hot red head that sat in front of me.
Although Stern and the owners got their way in terms of the financials of the new CBA, it still drives them crazy that they can’t stop these 20 something superstars from controlling their respective teams
by NetsStrk on Jan 22, 2012 12:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
FORGET PEOPLE
NO WAY we trade DWILL to KNICKS.
If we dont get Dwight and Dwill wants out, we have to trade him to Dallas especially since Dallas would want to sign Dwight too.
BKing would have to get a third team involved since dallas doesnt really have anything we would want. I would like picks, expiring and young talent.
plus melo isnt going anywhere, they are gonna ride him on that team be it sink or swim
thats just the usual ny sports fan what if scenario garbage speculating about the knicks trading him.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Question
What is this “background” Morrow and D-Will are complaining about? What is it they are implying is throwing off their shot?
The Thunder shot the ball poorly too and its not like we defended them beautifully. Does it really make a difference that the Prudential Center was built for hockey as opposed to basketball?
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SERIOUSLY???? the hawks twice, heat, pacers rained threes all over us over and over and over
The background didnt seem to bother them one little bit
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 22, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
You didnt answer my question.
What is this background they are referring to?
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i have no clue.....i answered it by saying its an excuse
cause everyone else seems to be hitting their jumpshots there
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 22, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone have a more imformed answer to my question?
I am actually quite curious.
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didn't Morrow say that the background
is so far away, the depth persepction is messed up. something like that
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
didnt seem to bother him last year
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 22, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
haha exactly
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
What background thou?
Does he mean the fans? The back of the basket? The overall arena size?
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I think it is the spacial relationships of the objects in the shooters' field of vision
That’s why players don’t like playing in domes; supposedly, domes are too spacious, and it’s hard for the eye to calculate distances to the goal as a result.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Thank you
This is the imformed answer i was looking for.
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I know we all want DH12 to come here via free agency
but i can totally see dallas freeing up enough space to sign dwill and dh12 in the offseason…..never say never, if they can find a dumpster to trade marion to, amnesty haywood and let some other guys go, then they are good to go
So, it is for this reason that we should probably call orlando’s bluff and give them everything they ask for………EXCEPT FOR SWAGGGGGG
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 22, 2012 12:51 PM EST reply actions
nope give them starshon if thats what it takes to ensure we have deron and dwight in bk, but hold onto our own #1 pick, dont give up marshon and the pick one or the other
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
marshons a proven commodity or getting there
the #1 pick could turn out to be crap for all we know….let them live with the pressure of deciding who to pick
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 22, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
We are Deron's preferred option per Broussard and Dwight's top choice per everyone.
Why would that change once the off season comes when our team would be in position to be even stronger than if we had traded for Dwight and the Brooklyn arena complete by the time they are ready to play?
If anything it will only make them want to play in Brookjlyn more. Thats just my opinion.
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i can totally see dallas freeing up enough space to sign dwill and dh12 in the offseason
I can also totally see the Nets continue to unload long-term salary by trading Farmar, Morrow, Petro.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
i agree....and we will be in position to sign both as well
but we can’t discount mark cuban
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 22, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
If the Nets see the Mavs agressively dumping salary, I don't see why the Nets will take it lying down
They will unload salary, as well, imo. The Heat did this, too — continue to unload salary. The only guy they had left under contract was Dwayne Wade IIRC.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
if the trade deadline comes and goes
and Dwight is still in Orlando, would you be more excited or more worried?
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
excited
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
wouldn't the Lakers be out of the picture
the only way they can get Dwight is via trade right? They couldn’t sign him in the offseason unless they shed alot of contracts…if I am not mistaken
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
excited, would wanna see how orlando fares in the playoffs.
and root against them every single game.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. Root for a repeat of last season.
Great reg. season, quick flame out in the playoffs, which is quite possible. I’m also for the Lakers to win every reg. season game so that they see no need to make changes.
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And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Neither
Ill wait to see how it plays out.; The Mavs could very well stick it to us (doubt it).. or we could go into Brooklyn as contenders… so many factors.
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Nah
I say we call all BLUFFS and wait.
The question will be which team does Dwill and Dwight think would be better:
Dwill, Dwight, Dirk, FAs
or
Dwill, Dwight, Lopez, MarShon, Morrow, Farmar, FAs
If they say Dallas would be a better opportunity, then I am FINE with
THE YOUTH MOVEMENT
MarShon, Lopez, 2012 Pick and BKing going after YOUNG PLAYERS. If we cant DRAFT a SF and If POR doesnt figure out the BATUM extension issue. I would GO HARD at getting BATUM
Felton or Miller, Marshon, Batum, DRAFT PF, Lopez
Good that we are in the Atlantic Division of the East.
Adrian Wojnarowski
The Atlantic Division — Philadelphia, Boston, Toronto, New York and New Jersey — has lost a combined 16 straight games.
1 minute ago via web
hahahah jeezzz
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Good thing we play in the Northwest division...
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Speaking of Boston's woes, it was reported that they might go into rebuilding mode if things don't impove in next 10 games.
If Nets can’t get Howard by trade deadline (and not likely to get him at all) ….
How about trying to get Paul Pierce, who has 2 years left on his contract. He is 34 and should be good for 2 more decent years going into Barclays?
Okur+Morrow(or Farmar) + some combination of picks for Pierce?
Pierce + Lopez and DJames back is a winning team for Barclays.
And despite the Broussard report, I think it would keep DWill with Nets.
I believe his contract is humongous though
would he be worth it two years down the road? Much rather have the cap flexibility even though I hate to have the cap flexibility just to find out we are not signing anyone worthy.
Nets have the space for it for 2 years.
Can we be picky?
Would Memphis part with Gay, who has a worse contract over 4 years?
Gay doesn’t seem to be a key to Memphis’ success.
And if you were DWill, would you prefer Pierce or Gay at SF?
Short term, I think he might prefer Pierce's defense, ruggedness and winning attitude.
After 2 years Nets would be able to recruit like a contender should and maybe hold onto Pierce inexpensively.
Gay is getting over 19 million in 4 years and is only a 3rd or 4th option for Memphis.
They did fare fine w/o Gay last year
so he might be expandable as you say. In that case I would take Gay over Pierce any day at this point of their career
i dont believe paul pierce is enough to keep deron on the nets
that deal would have us out of the dwight sweepstakes too fast in my opinion if dwight isnt traded at the deadline the nets should pursue him in free agency, it might be to our advantage actually if he remains on orlando past the deadline and they do not win the finals.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
It would only be if we ARE out of the Dwight sweepstakes.
I DO believe it would keep DWill here, if we were winning.
I Don’t believe the report which Bondy has been skeptical of, as being from DWill directly.
only way we are out of dwight sweepstakes if we dont have dwight by the deadline is if hes playing in la
if hes still on the magic past the deadline pursue him in free agency rather then go for pierce
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
He could hint that he would re-sign with Orlando.
I think I fear Howard staying with ORL more than LAL before deadline.
I prefer rooting for ORL to lose games as March approaches.
I think
as long as Dwight doesn’t resign with Orlando, or get traded to another team not names Nets, we will not make any moves that will prevent us from trading for, or signing Dwight.
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
yeah he could for sure, but until we know for sure, no moves should be made to remove ourself from the running
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
It would be very risky to assume Howard would come to Nets as a FA, if he isn't traded before deadline...
..unless DWill has direct guarantee from Howard.
Bosh, Amare and Boozer were situations where it was obvious at deadline they weren’t going to re-sign, but for the latter two, it was mostly because their team wasn’t willing to pay what they wanted.
Toronto screwed up not to trade Bosh. Money is not an issue for Orlando.
No matter where he goes tho he will be a free agent he's not signing until the offseason
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
by Atronic on Jan 22, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 22, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
The only BOS player i want is Ray Allen when he becomes a FA
PG-Deron Williams, Jason Kidd, Gaines
SG-Ray Allen, MarShon Brooks, Anthony Morrow
SF- Gerald Wllace,Andre Kirilenko, Shawne Williams,
PF- Kenyon martin, Kris Humphries, Jordan Williamns
C- Dwight Howard, Mehmet Okur, Shelden Williams
Assuming we can unload Farmar and Petro this lineup is not impossible.
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by WR3 on Jan 22, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i dunno if i put brooks on the bench if he produces well as a starter the rest of the year, but too much depth is a good problem to have i guess.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Ray Allen is a starter and will be for a few more years
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I think Ray should come off the bench conserve that energy and play against backups.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
also theres no way i put martin ahead of hump after this year.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Eh Hump doesnt stretch the floor eoungh and ive never seen Hump as a starter
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I do agree Hump is best served as a energy guy off the bench
but not sure how Kenyon would play when he comes back to warrant a start over Hump
I like Gerald and why wouldnt Kenyon return?
Wallace will command money but i dont think it will be Outlaw type money. He might be our most expensive target honestly.
Kenyon would return to the Nets and play with Kidd again.
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this would be amazing.
instead tho, if the cap permits, i would like to have lopez back instead of humphries and start him at the four and bring morrow off the bench.
Do we have to keep Jwill past this season? if not then forget him because we need space for a draft pick if were doing this through free agency.
Also I think Gerald wallace and AK47 together is unrealistic. Replace AK with Beasley, hes a FA.
correction
bring morrow off the bench</blockquote
Make that martin.
AK47 will be a Net and SHOULD be a a Net because he is terribly underrated
I forgot about Lopez lol he could also get us something nice in a trade. I also forgot to factor in draft picks which is impossible to predict..l we could get Gilchrist, Barned, Sullinger.. so much talent on that draft.
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Like i said
Brooklyn just offers so much more to Deron and Dwight than Dallas in terms of building a championship team. Yes. even factoring in Dirk.
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Regarding Wallace or AK
ill take whoever asks for less
How much do you think the following players will command?
Ray Allen?
Gerald Wallace?
Kenyon Martin?
Kevin Martin?
Kris Humphries?
Andre Kirilenko?
Jason Kidd?
Mehmet Okur?
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I would imagine Martin and Wallace alone would put us on the edge of the cap.
one does not simply walk into mordor...unless winter is coming
Its either Ray Allen or Kev Martin.. not both. Whichever comes cheaper.
I dont think Wallace will be too expensive but if he is then we have Lopez as a trade chip and a draft pick that could turn into a BETTER Gerald Wallace in Micheal Gilchrist who is my personal fav procpect.
Its ridiculous how much flexibility could have if Dwight gets to FA
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Pierce should retire a Celtic
What is Ainge thinking
I'd also like to take this opportunity to say that I said back in 2010 that Boston would regret those extensions
to the big 3.
once again, just sayin.
one does not simply walk into mordor...unless winter is coming
one player I think we should keep an eye on is Granger
Paul George is going to be a terrific player, and maybe Indy would be willing to trade Granger. They were rumored to have wanted Gasol in FA, perhaps they would take Lopez. Pierce would cost an arm and a leg even though he isn’t really worth it.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 22, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Lopez is a much more valuable asset than Granger. Also, Hibbert and Lopez wouldn’t be able to play together. I don’t remember hearing anything about Gasol to Indy
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
http://www.iamagm.com/news/2011/12/02/pacers.strongly.weighting.giving.marc.gasol.offer.sheet
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by JerseysFinest. on Jan 22, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Odd, don’t see how Gasol or Hibbert could play PF
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
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Now that I think about it
I think Indy was going to trade Hibbert for more pieces, and make Gasol their primary 5. Therefore it would come down to if Indy believes Lopez is the better prospect than Roy, which I doubt.
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by JerseysFinest. on Jan 22, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
you could blame that on the Knicks
by NJ Champ on Jan 22, 2012 1:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Those 16 combined straight losses are accounted for mostly by 2 teams: Toronto and New York
Toronto with 7, NY with 6, and ‘only’ one each by Boston, NY and NJ.
yeah the sixers have actually been playing good ball this year, think they were a top 3 team in the east prior to last night dunno where they stand now
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
They’ve had a crazy easy schedule. I expect them to settle into that 5 or 6 seed where they belong eventually as their schedule evens out
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
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yes but 5-6 seed for the sixers is still very good, they would take that in a heartbeat, then all about performing in the playoffs.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
LOL to Knicks.
Really funny how Melo blames Knicks for giving up too much for him, yet it was because he was willing to sign with Nets in order to get his Big Payday.
EAST RULES!
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 22, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
im a glass half full kind of guy
as badly as the team has played no one has run away with the 7th and 8th spots in the east
just have to hold out hope that when lopez comes back hes relatively in good condition and can carry the team offensively
by mightymosdefinition on Jan 22, 2012 1:10 PM EST reply actions
lol fail?
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
I feel good about this team
Were not doing that bad with arguably our best player out. We held OKC to 84 points, i know we only scored 74 but when lopez comes back it will be much easier for us to score the ball. when lopez comes back barring any other injuries the nets will be a good team. We shoot the three so much and by adding lopez a threat down low he will get many 1on1 opportunities and if they have to double him it will leave a 3 shooter open. I feel really good about this team we just have to wait it out until lopez comes back and win the must win games like today against charlotte
Something to think about - If Howard wants to leave ORL for Nets and wants the extra $30 million too ...
then every additional loss he could “create” should be worth $3-4 million.
If ORL is playing .500 and losing to top teams before the deadline, Howard would be insuring he is traded.
Isn’t that what Howard wants?
Howard has already proven to be way better than Bynum and that Shaq was wrong.
my personal opinion
Dwight loves Orlando and wants them to succeed but he also wants them to bring in some more players to help which they will be able to do during Free Agency so i think during FA they will try to bring in some guys to help dwight and if he likes them he will stay, but hopefully they pull a cleveland and don’t bring in anyone and dwight wals
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They don’t have any cap space, they really just lack the flexibility to improve.
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
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oh i didn't know that
hmmm well they are in an even stickier situation than i thought
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Yeah they made a ton of horrible moves.
one does not simply walk into mordor...unless winter is coming
ORL would be over the cap if they are able to keep Howard.
They would only be able to get a MLE player.
Great news
really really good news. You have to get the idea that D12 has told them through backchannels that he wants the Nets and only the Nets, and they have a plan prepared to unite. If I were the Nets, I try and trade Lopez and fillers for a swingman to help the Nets in the meantime.
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well we were supposed trade morrow/farmar and a pick for mayo but that fell through
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I'm talking more specifically about a 3
MarShon + Morrow is fine. If they include Lopez in a trade, they’ll most likely net someone with more value than Mayo. For example, trading Lopez and fillers for someone like Danny Granger.
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by JerseysFinest. on Jan 22, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Jordan Farmar:
“For every one good game, he has about 7 bad games”
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He can't finish near the basket, despite his good jumping ability.
Gaines is better at finishing near the basket, but isn’t being given PT.
It may be better to showcase Farmar, because I would rather have Gaines long term.
yea gaines is quicker and just a better playmaker
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why would it
marshon could hit the game winner from halfcourt and it would just get an honorable mention
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it was #2 on sportscenters top 10 though
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
If before trade deadline Howard went to LAL or promised to re-sign with ORL on July 1, then ..
as long as Lopez comes back to pre-season form,
Lopez
Paul Pierce
Humphries
DWill
MarShon
would be a winning team going into Barclays and enough to keep DWill, IMO.
Would be 5 legitimate starters by then, whereas now there is just DWill and Hump.
Nets could still attract additional help with MLE (maybe an AK47).
If you work out the options for DWill to go elsewhere, it would be hard to find a better situation, especially if he seems to like NYC already.
dont like pierce....draft harrison barnes
by netsyankees4life on Jan 22, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Triple double watch for Paul Pierce, who has 20 pts, 9 asts, 7 rebs after 3. @celtics hold the 73-69 edge on @washwizards. Wall w/20,6,&6.
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 22, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
why would you want Pierce?
he’s injury prone and old.
by sheepareevil on Jan 22, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
He can also create his own shot, play good defense, and be the best SF this team has had in a very long time.
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
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ill skip
he gets injured everyday he not worth it then a year later we going to have to look for a sf again.
by xxdariel17xx on Jan 22, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I find it kind of hard to believe
the Celtics would just give Pierce to a division rival. But besides that, they are going to want a lot for him, and I don’t think he’s necessarily worth giving up important assets for.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 22, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
He's been a career-long Celtic
I’d think that while he may have the highest trade value of Pierce/Garnett/Allen, I would be surprised if he’s the one that’s traded.
do u guys know.what section is behind the nets bench
by KillaHoose on Jan 22, 2012 2:05 PM EST via Android app reply actions
trading for kevin love ?
what if dwight stays with the magic and d-will desperately want to try and win we could trade for love which i know we probably going to have to give up the same players that we going to give up for howard and then get howard at free agency
isnt he like a unrestricted free agent this year ?
i dont see it neither but worth a shoot king probably call to see if his available just like how he did for d-will and we ended up getting d-will who knows might happen for love
by xxdariel17xx on Jan 22, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
going to the game tonight and gonna make.sure dwill hears me
by KillaHoose on Jan 22, 2012 2:25 PM EST via Android app reply actions
good... please boo this bum
he doesnt like the nets fans so make it clear we dont like him either… id be there doing the same thing if i didnt have obligations
by William_H_HOLLA on Jan 22, 2012 2:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
smh
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
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by J-Kay on Jan 22, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
never said he dont like the fans he said the arena
he said the arena but i believe he dislike the fact nets fan rarely support them. i would dislike the fans also because we never got support even when we had jkidd, vc, and rj we still didnt have a sold out arena, but all that will chance when it moves to nyc but then again if he does continue to talk about the nets like he is now he will hear it in NYC!!!
by xxdariel17xx on Jan 22, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
i was at a few of those playoff games in izod… they had plenty of support
by William_H_HOLLA on Jan 22, 2012 2:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i really hope the toad requests a trade soon
giving a list to broussard isnt enough…. he needs to be a man and let his intentions be known so the nets can move forward without him in the plans
by William_H_HOLLA on Jan 22, 2012 2:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
lol from who ?
teams wont really give up alot for him until he guarantee the team he getting traded to that he would stay with them long term but if its not long term i don’t see us getting that much and plus the team he wants to get trade to “the list” don’t have much to offer but i would really like bynum if they want d-will but its unlikely because if they get d-will they would want to trade for howard
by xxdariel17xx on Jan 22, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Are you kidding me? Dwight would never have even considered signing an extension with us if we didn’t have D-Will. He’s the only reason we’re on his list.
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
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Are you sure about that? Really, really sure?
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 22, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
we lose Deron, no way we get Dwight
besides, what do you want in a trade for Williams?
Couple young big men maybe? (Favors, Kanter). Maybe a couple first round picks as well?
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
yea but Deron doesn't want to sign extensions
in those towns
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
i see
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Damnnn Stephen A is going off on the Knicks right now on1050
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
i only got to hear a little bit
but he was just saying they are terrible and they need to aim to be respectable, not even aim for a chamionship. just be respectable and they can’t even do that.
then he says he’s changing the subject because he can’t talk about the knicks anymore
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Hw was like Cleveland with a rookie point guard has a better record than them
Antoni’s system is breaking Stats body down, they better step it up its ridiculous and embarrassing.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
i'm listening now haha
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
what else can david stern say?
he and the other owners tried to sell the lockout to fans as them trying to achieve competitive balance and “repair” the league. they were proven to be full of moiso, and stars are still moving. hopefully fans won’t buy that crap the next time there’s labor talks.
YO!! KNICKS GETTING DWIGHT...maybe...
my boy just texted me…Magic want Chandler and Amare. Apparently Orlando made the call to knicks…not the other way around. I’m looking for it online. Can’t find it nowhere. If true, should be coming up soon somewhere.
lmao 1050 is so crazy
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
hope its not true
the knicks would deff do that
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yup...got more info that Stephen A's sources was the one that told him...
…Orlando is asking for Chandler/Amare. Could just be a tactic to get Lakers to budge on moving both Gasol/Bynum. And if it is just a tactic…then it tells me the whole Nets being a front-runner was also just BS.
Stephen A. says he doesn't believe his sources
so again, it must be a tactic by Orlando.
good
so the Nets are still in the lead?
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He didn't say that either
he mentioned Dallas, Lakers. Then when he did bring up the Nets, he said the same as everyone else…no D12 for Brooklyn, no DWill either.
Actually
Nets being a front-runner was also just BS
This maybe further proof that we are still the frontrunners.
ORL only let Dwight’s agent speak to three teams Knicks wasnt one of them. What would be the biggest BLUFF ORL could pull out to push the NETS to FOLD?
why would orlando do that..
chandler + Amare is 120 million dollars, 30 yrs old, injury prone
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
yeah he doesnt believe it either
and neither do i…orlando just upping the price like they did when they had JJ/j smith or whoever it was…blahh..
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 22, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Please just think for a second
why would ORL want Amare and Chandler? 2 horrible contracts and players who are injury prone.
Amare has virtually ZERO trade value right now.
I call BS. No one wants unguaranteed Amare!
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 22, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Tickets today- WOW! so cheap
starts at 1 penny on stubhub
4th row on court for $40
2 bad teams and Giants game= no interest
40 dollars for courtside isnt bad though..
WOW
that is soo cheap I wish I lived closer I would go fo sho
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
2 weeks ago i checked
nosebleeds were a quarter
DD, courtside were like $150 but lower bowl first 5 rows were like $65
hopefully next year we will all be complaining at how expensive tickets are just to watch nets/hornets
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 22, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
lol just like smith said kobes going to request a trade
by netsyankees4life on Jan 22, 2012 3:26 PM EST reply actions
what?
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
stephen a guaranteed kobe would demand a trade
by netsyankees4life on Jan 22, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha really?
that seems unlikely. Did he say why?
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
he just said cause he knows kobe well
by netsyankees4life on Jan 22, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
that's weird
everybody is talking about how everybody wants to play in LA, and kobe wants to leave LA? I don’t really know where he would want to be traded to. The west is pretty wide open right now, why not just stay in LA and finish your career their. Why not push a trade for Howard, rather than push a trade for yourself? Hmmm this is actually interesting to me because I don’t see where Kobe would feel better playing than in LA
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Kobe demands a trade: "I demand we trade for Dwight!"
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Dwill, Dwight and MKG
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 22, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Knicks would have been better off:
Keeping Billups and not signing Chandler
Amnesty Amare (crazy as it sounds) after the season
Use the $$ under the cap to make a run at Deron, paul, or Dwight
any one of those three plus Melo would be a better pairing
Heck, they could have had:
pg- nash
sg- landry
sf- melo
pf-?
c- Howard
that is pretty good
Good article by Ken Berger today on the Knicks
remember when the knicks jumped up from out of nowhere
and signed chandler. Everybody was all like “ooohh oh my gosh knicks are going to be top 3 in the east, title contenders..oooohh la la”
now look at them. It is still early but they don’t look good at all
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
wait
so the knicks can use the amnesty twice? because they already used it on billups
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 22, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
NetsDaily community- you guys are always so on top of things!
I come home to see what’s going on in NetWorld and all I have to do is scroll through the latest thread, look for the tweets that have been posted ten times in three minutes and then read the crazy snap judgment reactions that people have.
by mytoemytoe on Jan 22, 2012 3:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 22, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Woah guys, just heard Nets might be getting D12.
by mytoemytoe on Jan 22, 2012 3:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I would really like to see the Nets add Kmart and W Chandler to the team in March.
I know many on this board don’t want that but both would help in two positions of need and do more than just contribute.
KMart would bring some toughness, 7-8 more rebs, block shots and about 12 points. Chandler also blocks shots, has good size at SF, will get you about 15 and 5-6 rebs from that position while defending the SF position better than abything we have now.
Would think both would like to play in Brooklyn. You move Farmar and Shawne Williams to other teams in contention for depth.
A team of
Deron/Gaines
Marshon/Morrow/
Chandler/Stevenson/James
Hump/KMart/Shelly
Lopez(upon return)/Memo/Petro
Could make a run. Bench looks much better.
In the event Dwight doesnt come, we still a lot of money for someone else,
our first pick (MKG?) and the above team to start with.
Billy to Otis...
…after King heard the news from Stephen A’s show today…
Billy: “Otis, really? Are you trying to drive the price up on me the way I did to the Knicks?”
Otis: “Haha…wasn’t me…it was Grunwald spreading that rumor pal.”
Billy: “Man…don’t they know why my last name is King? C’mon…I may just get them to deal Fields and Shumpert for Mo Williams now. Lemme get my press dept. on the phone…tell’em to spread the rumor we’re all in for Mo Williams.”
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