List? Whose List? My List?
by Net Income on Jan 21, 2012 12:24 PM EST
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PrintThat was basically how Deron Williams replied Saturday morning when asked about Chris Broussard's report that he has list of teams he'd prefer if the Nets fail to get Dwight Howard and he needs to get out of Jersey.
First, Williams claimed he doesn't read ESPN although the first person he followed on Twitter is named Chris Broussard. The ESPN writer is also one of only two reporters he follows, the other being Darren Rovell of CNBC. And his very first tweet, as noted by Nets are Scorching, quoted who?
After that, there was this exchange:
Q: You have a list…
A: Did you hear it from me? We don’t need to talk about it then. Another one of these sources. Sources. I don’t know who sources are.
Q: The Knicks were on the list. You said before the season it was unlikely you’d go there, has anything changed?
A: We play Oklahoma City tonight, right? We’ve got Russell Westbrook tonight, Kevin Durant and Co.?
Later, Williams said he was unaware of any list and Avery Johnson joked he had hoped his son's high school team would be on the list. So take from it what you will.
- D-Will downplays list - Andy Vasquez - NJ Nets Nation
- Deron Williams ignores latest report while Nets learn to laugh amid rumors - Colin Stephenson - Star-Ledger
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He's pulling that "Did you here it from me again?"
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
lol at your sig
“Nets lose 33+ games this season”
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
by nets14 on Jan 21, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Was before the season started
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
Follow @Meer2Fly16
One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
Not sure how many times 2 player from the same team each had Triple double in 1 game
But Jordan and Pippen was the last to do so I believe
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
Follow @Meer2Fly16
One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
List? I've heard of a shipping list.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 12:28 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Sigh
shipping shopping
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
He was just avoiding the question
Which is not a good sign. And he has lied before to reporters. He said he didnt go to dinner with dwight….
Jason Kidd was very coy with reporters too
Making assumptions now of Deron’s intentions now is a waste of time. We have played the most road games in the league and are missing our second best player.
Other things that should be noted: the Knicks suck and have wrecked their offense and the lakers have done the same by giving Kobe the Iverson green light. The Mavericks are beat up, old and soft again and going nowhere.
Phil Jackson has signaled the end of the Laker era in my book, he kept Kobe in check and the team as one.
Happy to see Billy King graduated in an accelerated "how to make a trade" class in just one night :)
by Scoot21 on Jan 21, 2012 1:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
sorry, the Broussard story was too specific
and he is too close to Broussard to dismiss the possibility that he is at least one of the sources.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
so are you saying Deron is afraid to be honest to BK and has to tell "sources" in order to get his point across?
I thought he was a no-nonsense kinda guy…. what a
Official member of the "DO NOT TRADE MARSHON "SWAG" BROOKS" Society!
That is fine. The fact remains
King doesn’t have to do anything until the deadline and you can bet he won’t. Lopez will be back, we will be playing at home more and baron Davis will be jacking ill-advised 3s for the Knicks. A playoff race changes things for sure.
Happy to see Billy King graduated in an accelerated "how to make a trade" class in just one night :)
by Scoot21 on Jan 21, 2012 7:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the fact that he joked like that with Avery (DWill brought it up) is a good sign
I still don’t find Broussard’s article as anything I couldn’t believe and again he said positives things about the Nets on it (the Nets being DWill’s first choice; the Nets thinking they have a great chance of getting Dwight; and that we won’t trade just to avoid being left with nothing).
I can understand if Deron has a list in case things don’t work out here.
yea...
can’t see Dwight joking with SVG after speaking to the media about HIS list.
by BKNfastbreak on Jan 21, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
there are no good signs here
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
You did not expect him to have plans in case Dwight does not come here?
There was nothing surprising or new from Broussard’s report.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
let's review
The first person he followed on Twitter (before his wife!) was Chris Broussard.
Broussard is one of two reporters he follows. He doesn’t follow any of the beat writers, NetsDaily or any blog.
Broussard did the piece in which he announced he was going to Turkey. ONLY interview he did.
Broussard wrote the piece yesterday on the lists, quoting multiple sources. We are supposed to believe he didn’t consult Williams?
Williams denies he reads ESPN when in fact he follows only one NBA writer.
Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
It really isnt anything new
So he lists places he wants to play. Everyone knew he was interested in the Mavs, and the Knicks and Lakers cant get him. Anyone with eyes can see its Dwight or Bust.
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
youre missing the point...completely
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
No im not
Deron has pretty much acknowledged that he is going to leave without Dwight here, something a lot of us already knew.
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
sorry, you dont understand
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
"Yo BK, these are the teams you should talk to before Trade Deadline. OK, now, what are we having for lunch today?"
DWill oop to D12
Official Member of DO NOT TRADE MARSHON Society!
pretty close
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Dont you think thats just a little over dramaitc?
If Dwight comes, he’s staying
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
oh please
Who has been the reporter who D-Will chose to do the first story after he was traded?
Chris Broussard.
Who was the reporter who D-Will chose to do the first story after he decided to sign with Besiktas?
Chris Broussard.
Who was the first reporter, indeed the first PERSON, D-Will chose to follow after he decided to set up his new Twtiter feed?
Chris Broussard.
And we are supposed to believe that this story, the single most significant story on D-Will’s intentions, was written without Broussard talking to D-Will?
Really?
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
I think Broussard is telling the truth, and this is all true.
The thing is, it just isn’t news. We know this, we have known this. The Nets put themselves in a scary situation, they swung for the fences. This can all turn out well, or it could blow up in their face, that’s all.
What did Broussard say that we didn’t already know? He just mentioned a little more specifics.
Oh Come on
You have been screaming since we traded for him and posted “D-Will in his own words” 3 times. We have heard numerous stories about D-Will and King having a great relationship, about how he loves the area and the organization, and how he loves Avery. You want me to go on a single story by Chris Friggin Broussard?
Overreaction.
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
he can change his mind
I dont get why people cannot understand that…what was true last month isn’t necessarily true today.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
So you think he just changed his mind
because of a poor start that doesnt even include Lopez? puhleeze. Lets not forget he gets 30 million more here than everywhere else, Brooklyn, first class treatment, and the Nets can still get Howard.
And oh yeah, not to mention, only 2.5 games out of the 8 seed.
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
???
I’m confused. Who’s denying that?
The article says that if the Nets get Dwight Howard, Williams will stay. If they don’t, then he won’t.
So what?
Broussard also wrote the first piece about Dwight coming to NJ
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Broussard is not lying here
I’m usually skeptical of him but this just makes too much sense. Of course Deron would have a list and obviously if we cannot get Dwight he’s not staying here. Who could blame him?
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
youre missing the point too
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Just a guess
but maybe NI is insinuating Deron is more frustrated than we think?
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry, but I really do give up.
DUH!!!!
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
of course Deron is lying
he was also lying about the 90% thing as well.
He’s not going to come out and directly say this or that. He didn’t deny anything, so thats all I needed to see really.
Me? I like the idea of building a young team and going from there since everyone wants to piss on this franchise one way or another, MarShon Brooks and Michael Kidd Gilchrist on the wings would be ideal, but the Nets clearly do not nor can they afford to like that idea.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I dont think he was lying about 90%
I think he has changed his mind and is using Broussard to signal it. He has used Broussard in the past to do the very same thing.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
What has he changed his mind about?
That he would stay with the Nets even if they do not acquire Dwight?
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
never mind. we're done
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Okay.
No one here gets this but you, apparently.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
What is going on here?
Did the Men In Black come to all of our houses except for NI?
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure if anyone here does.
But clearly he is concerned about something, so maybe we should be, too.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Or...
He’s BSing to get people more interested in the issue.
Not an accusation; just a thought.
That would be disappointing.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
NI is being completely clear
1— DWill uses Broussard as his way to leak information. The article is an accurate reflection of Grumpy’s feelings.
2— Grumpy is signalling that he’s less favorably inclined toward the Nets than before, meaning…
2a— Dwight has become even more of a necessity than before.
3— If we trade Grumpy, there are only a few places he will sign an extension.
"Good pitching will always stop good hitting and vice-versa." -- Casey Stengel
by calling all toasters on Jan 21, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
For some reason, NI is not spelling it out.
Here it is: Deron knows Dwight’s intentions and Dwight told him he’s not coming.
There, I said it. Did I get it right, NI?
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 21, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
WILLIAMS IS BROUSSARD'S SOURCE
does that help you?
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
But an assumption backed up by facts
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
yes it is and
again, he is closer to Broussard than any other writer and Broussard isn’t going to jeopardize that relationship by writing stuff that he knows isn’t true.
He also said he doesnt read ESPN when in fact the very first person he followed on Twitter was Broussard, not his wife, not his best friend, not his agent, not his manager, but Broussard.
Lots of naivete here.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
you are assuming like the rest of us
Official member of the "DO NOT TRADE MARSHON "SWAG" BROOKS" Society!
You are jealous he didn't follow ND first!
Not. Just kidding.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 21, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
He only follows Broussard on twitter?
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
NY Giants Tribute
Only NBA writer he follows is Broussard
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
I still don't get it...
So what if Williams is Chris’ source? What does that change?
Ask yourself, why now? What has changed?
Dwight talks to Deron, what does Deron know?
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 21, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
???
Seems pretty simple to me: Broussard lobs a few questions Deron’s way, Deron answers them (saying that IF Howard doesn’t make it to the Nets, he’d be interested in such and such) and he publishes an article.
Once again, so what?
I'm not trying to read into Dwill or Broussard's thinking.
I am trying to figure out what NI is freaked out about. I good whatever happens. I’m crazy happy with the Nets whatever happens. That’s just me.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 21, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
what if the world ends tomorrow?
makes no sense to me.
If Dwill had a change of heart, all he needs to do is talk to BK… or is he afraid of BK?
Official member of the "DO NOT TRADE MARSHON "SWAG" BROOKS" Society!
Who knows? Maybe BK knows.
And Dwill is trying to deny everything to let BK make the best deal possible.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 21, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
If thats the case..
Then why not just take the “no comment” approach.
why would he basically diss all this “sources” talk and make a guy like Broussard (who you said he actually likes) look bad.
i am just shaking my head.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Guys look, this was like a really passive way of asking for a trade
Either that or he knows something we don’t know about Dwight coming here and he no longer believes its in the cards so he’s preparing to jump ship.
by NuttinBut on Jan 21, 2012 6:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You know I love you, but I have a serious question:
Why has your focus shifted from Avery Johnson to Brett Yormark? Did he do something that I missed or did you just want to change things up?
just working my way thru Nets org:
Thank you for destroying my Nets
DWill oop to D12
Official Member of DO NOT TRADE MARSHON Society!
Broussard said he likes it in NYC (as reason for considering Knicks).
That is a good aspect and I believe THAT is true.
I just wonder who the “sources” are and how much Broussard embellished what was actually said.
I may end up looking like another idiot
But to take a stab, Net Income is hinting that Deron lying and that he has a list may possibly mean that Deron thinks there is very little chance Dwight is coming to NJ so he is listing the destinations he wants to be traded to before the deadline.
Iist ? Whose list ? My list ?
No no Andy, that’s my bucket list , I mean it by teams to drop 40 points on before I die.
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 21, 2012 12:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Things won't get better after we get crushed by the Thunder tonight
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
I honestly don't think he wants to be on the Knicks.
Firstly, if it doesn’t work out and he wants to leave, I don’t see him going to our rival across the river. After all we (management and fans) did for him, I doubt he would spit in our face like that.
Second, assuming the Knicks give up either Amare or Carmelo in a trade, they aren’t winning a championship with that squad. Not even close. Deron wants to be on a real championship contender.
Whose List is it Anyway?
by Chris Broussard!
The report where everything’s made up and the facts don’t matter!
I saw most people voted keep MarShon rather than our 2012 draft pick.
But what if we got into the top3 in the draft. Would you still feel the same way?
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 21, 2012 12:47 PM EST reply actions
I love how some people loved Broussard
When he said DH requested a trade but when D-Will had a “list” of teams besides the Nets he suddenly becomes ‘clueless’ and ’ an idiot ’
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 21, 2012 12:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I dont hate Broussard
I think he reports what he hears. How can you say he hates the Nets when he has defended them in some places?
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
yep same thing I said
all of a sudden he’s a liar of a broumoiso
his teeth may need a good cleaning, but I don’t think that he was lying about either Dwight’s trade request or this.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
lol its called believing what you want to hear no matther who its from
I bet if Sheridan comes out and says Howard is definately coming to the Nets people would love him as well.
by NJ Champ on Jan 21, 2012 1:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Broussard reported it
but we heard Dwight say publicly that he wanted a trade. we havent heard Deron say a thing about this “List”
dwight has never publicly said anything about the nets
broussard is where that all came from.
i dont really like the way williams handled this topic. the fact that he avoided the questions is a cause for concern.
by JJ_22 on Jan 21, 2012 12:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The way he got defensive
Is assign he’s full of it
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Jan 21, 2012 1:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Broussard isn't lying
and Deron isn’t denying anything. It is what it is.
It really isn’t news imo, its common sense.
Exactly
The fact he didn’t say “wants to be traded now” is the good news here.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
yeah
now that could change in about another month, but lets hope for the best
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, he is covering up for the fact that he knows that Dwight is going to try to force his way to the Nets.
He may also not want to take the pressure off of Billy King to stick to the plan to get Howard.
What isn't being considered, is that any of the teams listed don't have cap space and would get significantly hurt in order to accomodate DWill.
I also don’t believe that DWill would leave without notifying BK before the trade deadline.
And Nets have lots of options (besides getting Lopez back) to make Nets better than the “diluted” team he might be going to. And I don’t believe he would go to Knicks if they had to lose Melo and deal with Amare’s health issues and a soon to be aging Center.
Dallas would have to amnesty Haywood and let Kidd and others go in order to accomodate DWill.
They wouldn’t be better than Nets with a healthy Lopez, not to mention Nets have ability to improve (without Howard), especially if they use 4 1st round draft picks.
In the end it all works in our favor, but right now it just sucks to be a Net an. Boring team, rotating players in and out, very little actual growth from young guys (outside of Marshon if we want to consider him young) and a team that just does not look like they have bonded…
At least we can watch Minnesota, Utah, and Denver highlights.
NetIncome
Instead of telling us all repeatedly that we are missing the point, why not use a mature approach, and explain to us exactly what it is we are missing. What is the point we don’t understand NI?
by Kievitt on Jan 21, 2012 1:10 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Past 5 games I have been.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i mean if he's really not happy like Net Income is saying
then oh well and be gone. No he hasn’t played well so if this does indeed turn into what people are saying, then move on. I’ve watched a lot of ugliness with the mets and jets, i’m impervious to pain haha
d-will was a source for Broussard maybe?
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
so you are saying
that DWill leaked to Broussard that Nets are his first choice still……the scandal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look, I am a Nets fan. I am fed up with the NBA being run by a handful of stars, being coddled and catered too. The Nets have now given up 2 years of trying to compete because of this “new way”. I will be a Nets fan long after Williams, Howard, Lebron, or any other star today is a factor in the NBA.
I am officially on the "Management—do what is best for the team, don’t cater to any one “star” approach." If we end up with DWill and Dwight, we’ll all be happy. If we don’t, life goes on, we have assets, we have cap space, we have Brooklyn instead of Newark, we have a wealthy ownership willing to spend and we’ll be relevant before long!
by NetProfit on Jan 21, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If something has changed, it can be only one thing.
Dwight told Deron he is not coming. Plan A is dead.
But that’s a big “if”
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 21, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
NetIncome
Instead of telling us all repeatedly that we are missing the point, why not use a mature approach, and explain to us exactly what it is we are missing. What is the point we don’t understand NI?
by Kievitt on Jan 21, 2012 1:14 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Net Income
could you clarify? I’m not sure what we’re missing here.
Deron is giving us more lip service? He’s not denying anything? Broussard is telling the truth?
I’m not sure what you mean here.
I don’t think that any of this is news, well to me at least, because(and I admit, it was assumption) I’ve always figured that Deron was halfway out the door as is and Dwight would be the only thing that could keep him with us.
its very rare
for ni to comment when posters address a q directly to him. Just something i hae noticed.
by num1netsnut on Jan 21, 2012 1:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
eh
well actually answering or clarifying his statements would be better than just running around telling people that they don’t get it
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
It's a strategy; and not a bad one.
Like the dealer throwing a pinch to a junkie.
Very good one indeed keeps us coming back
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
its very rare
for ni to comment when posters address a q directly to him. Just something i have noticed.
by num1netsnut on Jan 21, 2012 1:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Broussard is the one who is fabricating, because Chris said with certainty that DWill would be gone if Nets don't land Howard.
That makes no sense. Nets could get Paul Pierce or Gerald Wallace if they wanted to use assets.
Add Lopez to that team and a more experienced MarShon, and you have a team better than the alternatives.
And lets not forget the extra $28 million, as Net Income has pointed out is important.
he didn't say it with certainty
he said he would likely leave if we don’t get Dwight, it’s like Stein who said Deron is a LOCK to leave should we don’t acquire Howard somehow.
I saw an interview yesterday, where he said it more strongly than likely.
And he and Stein are probably citing the same 2nd hand source.
You know how Broussard likes to claim everything as his own.
It could have happened at a time where DWill was frustrated and just said something in frustration, that someone overheard.
jerry, you have a PhD
you are an intelligent man. You are willing to ignore the relationship between D-Will and Broussard?
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
DWill told Broussard Nets were his first choice. He also said he likes NYC.
He also acknowledged that Nets were going strong after Howard and probably knows that Howard is focused on Nets.
Those are all Good things.
However, if Lopez can’t return to full strength (look at Damion James recovery), I couldn’t blame DWill for thinking out loud what his possibilities are. I just don’t think those alternatives would be likely if Lopez returns and Nets use their assets to satisfy DWill.
I DO believe that Broussard would stretch the truth to make a headline story. Broussard may have caught DWill at a bad moment after a recent loss.
that's how I feel
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 21, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Well lets see
If we trade him to Knicks which will probably never happen we would probably get Amare or Melo.
If we trade him to Dallas we would probably get Roddy B, expiring Jason Kidd, and someone else.
IF we trade him to Lakers we get Gasol.
I'm starting to hate D-Will
Brooklyn we go hard...
by Fabio Villani on Jan 21, 2012 1:23 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
Whose the guy who wanted me to make a marshon belive the hype thing?
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I'm not sure why this is being treated as some big secret or shock
Deron would be outta here if we don’t get Dwight.
This was known months ago.
And more than likely, Broussard’s source is Deron Williams himself.
Of course he’s not happy here. You have fans trying to deny what they’re seeing but it’s bloody obvious. He’s never been committed here, hell he didn’t even wanna be here and still doesn’t imo. He probably isn’t buying into anything the Nets have promised(because that’s all the NETS do, promise promise fail promise some more) and I don’t blame him, the franchise’s track record speaks for itself regardless of ownership.
He is free to leave, the entire plan while ballsy and admirable is crazy and it puts too much power into the hands of other people who do not have the best interests of this franchise in mind. When you get on your knees and beg you don’t get much besides some loose change and some lint
Put it together, like 2+2...
Deron would be outta here if we don’t get Dwight.
+
Deron wants out
=
We’re not getting Dwight.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 21, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
That's some Yale Math right there
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Villanova Engineering
post-slide rule era, but computers still used punch cards
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 21, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Very Nice
I’m proud
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I was a pathetic student
nothing to be proud of.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 21, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Your still alive
A Nets fan, and on Jersey Shore. Someone has been successful XD
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There are no good signs, some of us are missing the point, some of us give up and most see that the writing is on the wall.
So now what?! What do we do? If we see it, surely our front office sees it too. Why prolong the inevitable? Deron Williams is not bigger than the the NBA or Nets. We’re not dead without him.
Awesome
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Shawne Williams won’t be 100 percent this season “period,” and says surgery this season is a possibility nydailynews.com/sports/basketb…
I think it's fine.
Billy King
needs to take some responsibility for this
Shawne Williams was a horrible signing. He clearly was NEVER 100% from the moment he got here
garbage in, garbage out.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
that's what we get I suppose
lmao…oh well
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Why didn't the Knicks know about his previous fracture?
Knicks were clearly trying to sign Shawne for the mini-MLE of 2.5 million for 2 years.
then
it falls back on D-WILL this is why u dont let the players make management decisions… he aint lebron or Dwight we are 4-11 with him
It has nothing to do with them being former Knicks. Shelden being a former Blue Devil probably played more of a factor in connection with BK, if anything.
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
How would Nets signing Shawne hurt the Knicks cap space?
It saved the Knicks from using their MLE and (since Barron Davis accepted Vets Min) Knicks may end up signing KMart using that Vets Min.
oh great
not sure how it impacts us though…
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
OT but Is it time
to Believe the Hype?
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by netsareboss on Jan 21, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions 21 recs
someone wanted me to make this yesterday
so i made it today
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i'm rec'ing this
because regardless, we’ve been gifted with a promising young player from the basketball gods, and we may get another one if we hold onto our pick.
and if Houston makes the playoffs? could be another as well
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
denver is going to destroy new york 2night
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 21, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions
sure melo can score 40
denver is too deep IMO
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 21, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
OKC is going to destroy new jersey 2night
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
it is known
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 21, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
and another thing
the fanbase put too much stock into this whole “Deron is an assistant GM” thing
As I have stated before, that means nothing. He could have easily told King to get Nene and another player and then walked out of here leaving us holding the bag.
You guys trust Deron Williams way too much for someone who has played below the level we’ve seen from him in Utah, and who also has displayed questionable leadership on the floor.
But on the bright side, he is playing a lot better lately.
exactly
frankly i don’t want to see a guy who dogs it most nights making roster decisions for our team. he doesn’t deserve that privilege.
by sheepareevil on Jan 21, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
he has played better, but still
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
this is from the article, basically takes Knicks and Lakers out
If the Nets’ nightmare scenario comes to pass and they don’t get Howard, sources said they will not trade Williams for marginal players merely to avoid losing him for nothing in free agency. If Williams walks, the Nets will be left with enough cap room to sign two high-salaried players, which they view as a better option than eating up their cap space with average talent.
yes!
if we end up losing Deron, I would be pissed of you end up with Pau Gasol or Amare. Just let him walk and draft a top 5 pick, then go for one of the free agents
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 21, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
what free agents?
who will come here?
get used to the draft, and building slowly.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
we set ourselves back 5 years with this nonsense
and I admit, I was down with the idea but whatever now, we have MarShon, Brook, and our 1st rd pick. Its better than nothing, and I believe that we gave up little to get Deron.
Its not like Deron is trying to endear himself to this fanbase. He’s been grumpy, shady, and he has been non committal. He basically has thrown it in our faces that he never wanted to be here, and the Nets are garbage. I could do without guys like that.
Kidd, for all of his wife beating antics, at least came in here with his hardhat on ready to work. Deron has not.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would have to agree $$$
I thought Deron was a game changer but he is not. His leadership is questionable at best. He is shooting horribly.
I think it’s time to start shifting to MarShon. He needs more touches. MarShon and Brook need to be pushed as our franchise. For all we have seen from Brook at least he wants to be here.
But as far as the Draft I would prefer Harry Barnes. I like the tall SF thing and Harry does it all.
Brook, MarShon, Harry Barnes, Hump and some free Agents would be cool with me. Draft a young pg and bring in Kidd or Nash to groom.
I’m tired of this crap. DWILL is not on the level of Dwight, LeBron, cp3 maybe it was just the greatness of Jerry Sloan.
We should be no worse than a 500 team if DWill if who he is advertised to be. But so far not so much.
RE-SIGN THE HUMP!!!
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by MrBDown on Jan 21, 2012 3:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
To be fair, Kidd never had to go thru what Deron is dealing with right now
I’m not giving Deron a pass because I agree that he has been acting like an ***hole this year as well and he’s part to blame for what’s going on here as well…but I also doubt Kidd would’ve kept quiet if his team was one of the worst in the league too and luckily for him, he’s never had to experience that in his career.
by ProfessaPackMan on Jan 21, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Idk
Dwight Howard just said this is his preferred destination, but no free agents want to come here…
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
dude
if deron leaves, no one will want to come here until we build up our roster
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Every good free agent this year
is a RESTRICTED FREE AGENT!!!!! EVERYONE NEEDS TO REMEMBER THAT
there is noone to be had………take a look at the list and tell me teams wouldnt match any offers!!!
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 21, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
im confused kinda, so
a team that has a RFA can match therefore making the player stay, or the player can pick which team he wants?
they can match any offer another team makes......
for instance…..Kevin Love is an RFA, he signs an offer sheet to play with the nets, Then the twolves have i think a week to match, if they match he can go nowhere
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 21, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
from what Broussard says in the article he pretty much rules out Dallas and Lakers if we were to trade him
but leaes the NY option open because he says they could give us a star to go to Brokklyn
I would take Melo in that situation. Him and Brooks would need to learn to share the ball more
But if they traded for Melo, kept Lopez and Brooks and drafted Davis, they could be a huge step in the right direction
Winning fixes everything
Sucks that we have played such a difficult schedule when we are one of the teams that lack the most chemistry.
The key here is that even Broussard is reporting that the Nets are his first option while in ORL Dwight firmly has the Nets as his top choice. If im the Nets i do NOT trade him unless the Lakers get Dwight cuz if Dwight gets to FA i believe that the Nets will be sitting so pretty NOT Dallas.
The Nets made this gamble so now they must ride it out.
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MarShon might be our best hope
Damn you Lopez and your foot….
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As the Knicks continue to implode
I will still come back to this scenario…
WORST CASE: Dwight gets traded to LAL and then Dwill asks for a trade.
Do we really say no to Melo for Dwill?
i would not
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 21, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Getting Melo for a superstar who wants out would be decent I guess
But the pain of watching him in NY would be humongous. I guess if we did do it, we could hope for CP3 to leave LAC in 2 off seasons and join Melo. Isn’t a Melo/CP3 combo what we all hoped for during the Melo drama anyway?
by dwill8brooklynbound on Jan 21, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Otis Smith is a moron for that comment about Dwight and Jameer.
“Indirectly threw him under the bus.” Yeah, thats something you want to say about the player you are trying to keep in order to save your franchise.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
woj
The Lakers have been willing to give the Magic a choice of Bynum and Pau Gasol. Here’s the thing, though: Howard doesn’t want the Lakers to gut the roster for him. He wants to play with Gasol, and would encourage the Lakers to resist trading both its big men to the Magic. Between now and the March 15 trade deadline, don’t discount the possibility that Howard tells the Magic to forget his trade demand. If he’s going to sign with the Nets as a free agent, he can do it without them having to trade every asset except for Williams to get him.
by BKNfastbreak on Jan 21, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Another sign
that Dwight would consider passing on 30 million.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
The bulk of that 30million is in his 5th year.
So he will probably get the majority of that money back with a new contract at the end of the 4th year (pending any disasters)..plus he always has whatever endorsements get thrown at him coming to such a large market.
maybe he sees what happend with Melo
Deron
Marshon
?
Lopez
Dwight
with hump off the bench is a good team
...
…the Magic should play out the season with Howard. No trade, no concessions. That’s the franchise’s inclination now, and that’s what the New Jersey Nets and Los Angeles Lakers are beginning to believe will happen.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Melo is a cancer
He is the reason that the Knicks struggle and the reason that the Nuggets were so good when he left. With Melo MarShon would never get the ball.
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by WR3 on Jan 21, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Who was in love with him?
Most Nets fans only wanted him because most Nets fans agree that at that point we NEEDED a star and he was the only one available. If we had known Williams was available i doubt many Nets fans would have wanted Melo.
We also dodged a bullet. Hindsight is 20/20 and looking at it now, seeing how the Knicks suck because of him and the Nuggets are better without him; yea we dodged a bullet.
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Melo IS a top 15 player
he is a star. but the problem in NY is that him and Amare do the SAME THING. Same players pretty much.
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Probably can’t name 16
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Try it out then, curious to see what you come up with. I’d probably put him at around 13 or so
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Well, I was thinking about this. Are we saying better now, or would rather have for the future? I’ll just sayin a vacuum, today, if I had one season and there was a draft, etc, I would rather have, in no particular order,
Kobe, LeBron, Durant, Westbrook, Manu, Love, Howard, Paul, Rose, Aldridge, Blake, Bynum, Rondo, Wade, Bosh, Dirk, Pau, maybe ZRandolph/JSmith/Rudy, oh, and Deron!
Now, if it was a straight up trade for Melo 1-1 with no specific team players to build around, and I had to consider the future, I’d rather have
Durant, LeBron, Wade, Love, Howard, Paul, Rose, Aldridge, Westbrook, Blake, Rondo, Bosh, Rudy, Deron, and I would need to consider younger guys like Wall, Irving for potential
LOL
That’s YOUR personal preference and opinion. I can tell you this right now, we wouldn’t be 4-11 with Melo on this team, even slightly better is better.
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offensively Melo is probably the most talented scorer
by NJ Champ on Jan 21, 2012 2:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
as is shot selection
Melo is the most talented scorer in that he can hit difficult shots. but no the most efficient scorer, or the best scorer. he throws up too much crap for that to be true
by sheepareevil on Jan 21, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
he can score anyway he wants
by NJ Champ on Jan 21, 2012 2:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
doesn't melo avg about 7rpg?
"What's Unbelieveable is Believeable Now"
Very important from that Woj article
Howard clearly doesn’t want the Lakers to trade both Pau and Bynum and Bynum alone is not enough to get a deal done.
I still think the Nets present a pretty solid trade proposal to the Magic at the deadline, if they pass on it, then the Nets have the ultimate WIN scenario facing them with Dwight hitting free agency.
Basically its Nets vs Lakers here
With Brook injured, i believe Bynum alone is enough unless MarShon explodes into some cant miss phenom. The Brook Lopez injuury screwed us.
This is all moot if Dwight gets to FA…. that i believe is a Nets dream scenario.
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What's good, Will.
I strongly disagree.
Bynum alone is not “enough.” Let’s remember a few things: Bynum can leave after his contract expires; Bynum’s injury history is not promising for the future; if the Magic trade Howard, they’re going to want to shed some salary, unless they’re getting another top-tier player (Gasol).
Chillin, Dope
I am starting to believe that the injuuries that Bynum sustained were truly freak injuries. Here we are in a condensed season and Bynum looks as strong as ever without so much as the flu.
Im not saying his injury history is behind him by any stretch. However considering the Magic’s lack of options its a healthy and better player in Bynum that may get injured down the road vs the lesser player in Lopez who has a broken foot NOW.
Bynum is definitely not enough for Dwight but given the Magic dont have too much of a choice i dont think the Lakers have to give up Gasol with him unless our pick gets substantially better and/or MarShon starts beasting.
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Also...
Don’t underestimate the Magic’s unwillingness to trade another franchise player to the Lakers.
That i cant disagree with but...
There have been no reports that suggest that. I dont think the Magic would let that grudge prevent them from getting the best player they can get.
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Eh.
Not so high on Bynum and not so high on sending another franchise C to LA. RT @eLonePB: can you explain what you mean by “Magic’s thinking”?
Tweet from Coon to E’ a couple of days ago: http://twitter.com/LarryCoon
Precisely.
Looks very promising.
That’s why I’m a bit confused that some are panicking. I guess it’s just the nature of being a fan, though.
The Mavs are not a threat imo
-Dirk has looked terrible
-Deron and Dwight would have to take pay cuts
-Brooklyn is Derons preferred option per Broussard AND the Nets are Dwight’s top option
-The Nets have so much flexibility in 2012 if Dwight hit FA
I was a strong believer that Dallas was a threat but circumatances change and i dont think they are really a threat unless we lose Dwight to LA and we cant trade Deron.
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even if Magic win it all
Dwight just pulls a pujols and dips….
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 21, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
We beat OKC tonight!
I’m going to give my wife all the booze, fireplace and Coach Joe she can handle and hope she passes out before game time.
lmaoo
So you have to give your own wife that much booze first before you can…you know??
Damn…
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 21, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
This is silly
That may or may not be Deron’s list but who cares?
We are NEVER going to trade him to the Knicks
We are NEVER going to trade him to the Lakers
and we are NEVER going to trade him to the Mavs
End of story.
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And he is NEVER going to leave
Oh wait…
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he hasn't left yet
calm down
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
He is never going to leave?
I never said that.
Only way he is leaving is in the summer to Dallas. He won’ t get traded there UNLESS he is CRYSTAL clear BEFORE the deadline to BK that he WONT stay here.
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case closed
if he leaves its as a free agent then he can only realistically go to the mavs
by mightymosdefinition on Jan 21, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
70%
The other thirty is not a percent, but millions of dollar.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
50%
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He's going to be a free agent no matter what
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"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
I read that in Chris Paul's voice.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
someone clear this up for me....
so we are screwed or set back for 5 years if deron leaves…..
then what exactly are we now… we are 4-11 with this diva on the court.. If Dwight doesnt come trade him for picks and young talent and build through the draft…
We will be sent back even more if he leaves
we traded 2 #3 picks and a cheap PG for a rental IF he leaves. Playoffs is never the goal, more than half of the league makes it, Nets have to set a new golden standard for this joke of a franchise.
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pretty much. We’re the horse’s ass of the league and Williams basically sent Broussard out there to tell everyone that
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Lol, what?
Are you being facetious?
Seriously: Where are you getting this from?
Bondy
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LMAO
go ask Jeeves
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I don't know where Mr$ is getting this info from either
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you seriously think
that this is a bunch of hot air?
well, by all means don’t let me disturb you. Stick your head right back into the sand.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Horse's Ass
lol i wouldnt take it that far… if your looking for appreciation from the media then your wasting your time, they didnt even like us when we were going to the finals
those two number
3 picks are Kanter and Favors and they suck…. the cheap PG (Harris) is a bum.. we cleared them off the books. again Deron hasn’t made this team any better then what Lopez has made us when he was focal point…. if anything i think we stayed neutral
We're fine
if we trade him.
A little setback if he walks away
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"a little"
hahah. try telling that to the people that need to sell tickets. That new arena won’t pay for itself
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
we really didnt give up that much....
the warriors will pick top 8 with mark jackson coaching
favors kanter and Harris suck….
who's to say we would've drafted kanter?
or that would’ve had the same record and picked in the same spot if we never made the trade? you can’t just say “kanter” like he was our asset.
its not crazy
he’s been hinting towards this since day 1
the dude NEVER wanted to be here.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
read the article
we’re the first option, at this point it depends on Otis and Dwight.
This is the big picture
Brooklyn we go hard...
by Fabio Villani on Jan 21, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
This means absolutely nothing
and the fact that it depends on Otis and Dwight means that the nets have NO POWER, NO LEVERAGE in this situation
At least now we’ll be forced to build and raise a team from scratch. I’m not against that idea, although financially it will be a disaster for the Nets.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing is up to Otis
If it were, he’d be a Net.
Meanwhile if the Magic don’t trade dwight, we are in the drivers seat. If they do trade dwight we are in the drivers seat IF the Lakers won’t trade both Bynum and Gasol, or if dwight is adament about not playing second fiddle to Kobe. Of course this means we have to give up Lopez, brooks and the pick to get Dwight in trade.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 21, 2012 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
1 month ago it was 90% and didnt even entertain the idea of the NYKs... somethings up..
Now the NYKs is on the “list”…
D12 is going to LA… Dwill doesnt want to be stuck with a rebuilding nets…
exactly
all of a sudden, the Knicks are on the list eh
Deron isn’t fooling anyone, well, maybe some, but this isn’t surprising.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
and hoiws him going to the nix not rebuilding
amares old and chandler is overated to say the least
by mightymosdefinition on Jan 21, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
and the perception of the nix is they suck
he can only go to the mavs thats the only team to be worried about
lakers and nix cant sign him
only other team with cap space is the kings
by mightymosdefinition on Jan 21, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
the perception of the Nix
is that they are underachieving
The Nets on the other hand…
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
if he goes to the nix
its either with out melo or without amare
by mightymosdefinition on Jan 21, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hes not going to the Knicks
Period.
The Nets and knicks haven’t traded since the early 80’s and the odds of it happening again are slim to none.. at least anytime soon.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 21, 2012 2:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
slim to none is to high
dolan would never let his superstar in melo go
by mightymosdefinition on Jan 21, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly
if Dwight hits free agency and the Nets still can’t sign him, then this entire exercise is pointless.
The Nets have got to know by now how Dwight feels about leaving that $30 mil on the table.
I agree with Net Income's assessment
This was done purposely, with D-Will’s approval, to let the Nets know that he’s changing his mind.
As if we couldn’t tell by his uninspired play and god awful body language
cut bait.
what? that's ridiculous
If you changed your mind, all you have to do it tell BK. You don’t need Broussard
Sack up.
(Deron)
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lol
i agree, but this is how things are done.
I’m not sure how anyone couldn’t see this coming with this guy. Look at the way he’s played and behaved.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Deron said he has not clue of a list
I believe him.
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lmao
yo, I have this bridge in Brooklyn that i’d like to sell you…
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
What?
Because I believe what the ACTUAL person/player said over a RUMOR reported by BSPN… I am delusional? OK.
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yeah
because people don’t lie correct?
and Deron never denied anything.
You mean to tell me in 2012, in the age of twitter and lightning communication, that no one bothered to say “hey deron, did you see this story all over ESPN about you wanting to go here, here, and here”
I seriously have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale Claud. Interested?
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yea
and I didn’t run that red light officer
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
No ossifer
I wasn’t drinking, that’s rubbing alcohol that you smell emanating from my pores.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Wait I thought we were all moisos
For believing a reporter that says something we want to here, but not believing him when he says something we don’t.
So why are you belieivng or taking NIs side on this? is it because its something you want to hear since it supports what you have been saying? You seem to disagree with him on everything else.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 21, 2012 2:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
even he doesn't know what he is talking about
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THIS
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
oh
I think he does and its in line with what I’ve been saying for the last few weeks.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
let me summarize
DERON IS TELLING THE NETS THAT HE’S OUT IF WE DON’T GET HOWARD
HE IS NOT SOLD ON THE “PLAN”
typical stuff really.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The weird thing is..
…Deron would pretty much know if we were getting Dwight. He is publically making (Nets) fans hate him. If I knew we were getting Dwight (meaning me being Deron), I would be talking possitivly not worrying about a stupid list Chris Brussard makes up when he’s on the toliot.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Jan 21, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
WHY ARE YOU FREAKING OUT?
This has been known for a while. We are in full Dwight or bust mode, and the “plan” is Dwight. THIS ISN’T NEW!
by dwill8brooklynbound on Jan 21, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, I just don't want "re-building" for the next 5 years if Deron dosen't sign.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Jan 21, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, didn't mean it as a reply
Was talking to this board as a whole.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Jan 21, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
That makes no sense
Dwight is the plan, yet your saying Deron is not sold on the plan?
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 21, 2012 2:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm waiting to talk draft first
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 21, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
with all the young talent in this upcoming draft, and with the 2 young talented players we have...
i say the hell with dwill. no more catering to this a$$… Catering to him got us shawne wiliams. BK run this team. Build this team.
by aug93 on Jan 21, 2012 2:03 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
yeah
I feel the same way, but realistically the Nets cannot afford that
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
A young team with no leadership or guidance
equals 12-70
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
antawn jamison and anderson varejo are on the team
by mightymosdefinition on Jan 21, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
i would hardly call them leaders
and we would have lopez, possibly hump, morrow as young vets as well
what did those two bums leads them to last season
kyrie irving IS that team.
with 50 games left to play
why don’t we call them underdogs right now for a Championship?
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
its not about a championship this year for them. they are looking great for the immediate future
they are building something very good
They had Jamison and Davis
we’re stuck with Lopez and a bunch of rookies/sophomores
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
stuck with lopez?
he’s better than everyone on that team except irving
I'm fine with that
as long as they all play hard and want to be here. You know, those things that you can’t say about Deron
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
i dunno
12-70 wasn’t really even about anything other than making sure that the team could be sold
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
shawne williams barely makes any money
by mightymosdefinition on Jan 21, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
3 million of our cap space is not barely...
it may not be a great deal of cap spce. but its a waste
tell that to the knicks
they would kill for 3 million in cap space right now
the nix wanted him back for 2.5
because thats all they had if the y had 3 hed be a knick
by mightymosdefinition on Jan 21, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Soooo since all this losing has been about getting 2 superstars in Brooklyn....
Does this mean that we’re officially doomed to be the Mets of the NBA?
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jan 21, 2012 2:05 PM EST reply actions
The Nets
have to win at least 2 Chips first in their history……have a high payroll and year in and year out be ‘favorites’ for contending at least – fall short on the last day of the season…Sign some big names that when in uniform turn to double A players…suffer ridiculous injuries (get stepped on by D. Wright and be out for season)…have horrible trainers….etc.
Then they will be the Mets of NBA.
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 21, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
why not trade DWill for multiple draft picks??
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
makes more sense then letting him walk for nothing
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
i would cut bait
and try to get as many prospects as i can
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Klondike Bar would be nice
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
Feel that we need to highlight a something:
Deron Williams’ first choice is to stay with the Nets and to build something special in Brooklyn, but if it doesn’t work out with his current team, his short list of desirable destinations includes the Mavericks, the Knicks and the Lakers, according to sources close to the situation.
If the Nets are able to obtain Howard, either through a trade before the March 15 deadline or in free agency this summer, Williams will re-sign. If Howard goes elsewhere, Williams is likely to leave New Jersey, according to the sources.
If Howard does go elsewhere, the Nets will be faced with the same dilemma New Orleans faced in moving Paul — finding a trade partner that Williams will sign with long term because few, if any, teams will be willing to part with major assets for a two-month rental. So Williams will have a large say in where he winds up.
The article is not definitive. IF the Nets are unable to acquire Howard then Williams is out. So what?
wow
that can easily be said about the Nets plan.
come on now guys. You can’t have it both ways here.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
This
The Nets are Derons preferred option per Broussard AND they are Dwight’s preferreed team to be traded to. Thats not a coincidence.
Marshon VS Iman: Bring the rivalry on my nuiikkkass!!!
so to recap
The Nets are option # 1 for Dwill
The Nets are option #1 for Howard
Let’s trade Deron.
so you see the FAIL here?
If you are going to trust broussard saying that is Dwill’s list, then you also assume we are DH12’S option #1.
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Do none of these guys remember D-Will's 90%?
There’s a gotta be a reason he said that. That’s not just a number you throw out there to shut up your doubters. Lets see how the team does with a top tier center back in the middle of the offense. I bet it will lead to a happier D-Will
Would everyone stop the, "Trade Deron Right Now!" Talks!
Don’d be mad a D-Will. He didn’t ask for a trade here. I don’t blame the guy if he walks. And, Hey, Dwight Howard, the Best Center in the League, wants to play for us. Smile.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
he didn't say anything wrong... he even said he had no knowledge of this list
but people here love being dramatic and negative so they are going with what espn is reporting over what DERON HIMSELF SAID TODAY.
whatevs
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It doesn't even matter
He isn’t getting traded. He can walk away from the 30M and go to Dallas, that’s fine. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
pretty much
I don’t give a damn about the dude. He isn’t exactly making himself at home here
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather have cap than crappy players
because the mavs have NOTHING.
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you're getting pissed off
because people aren’t dumb enough to believe what comes out of Deron’s mouth? Really?
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Off topic but...
Anybody in or around the Newark area got any idea of how the roads and the weather are looking there? I’m supposed to be going to the game tonight, but it’s an hour and a half from me on a good day….
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jan 21, 2012 2:11 PM EST reply actions
take the train?
idk where in LI you are
by sheepareevil on Jan 21, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
I would go
cause they only got 1.5 INches. In my town, we got about an inch and the roads are totally clear. and i live in a small town with no plowers.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Jan 21, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
I don't want Melo, I want Brooks and a lottery pick
Trade Deron to Dallas for a TE and use it to land a decent player in a trade, also make them give us picks.
We got our star and he’s homegrown: Brooks. Add in Lopez and we’ll do this the right way having learned our lesson.
But Dwight is coming here, so it doesn’t really matter.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Jan 21, 2012 2:12 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
id rather get melo or bynum than nothing tbh.
Brooks/mkg or barnes/lopez/bynum
Brooks/melo/davis/lopez
we’d need a PG either way.
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lakers arent going to trade bynum for deron
and i wouldnt do that
by mightymosdefinition on Jan 21, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
elone, that is silly. I think you are letting your hatred for the knicks blind you..
Melo is a top player in the league and will sell a lot more tickets than an unused trade exception.
The Knicks aren't trading Melo
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
yeah
especially with the way Amare has looked this year.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
We would not do that trade unless Dwight is traded elsewhere.
Last thing we want is an angry Carmelo Anthony who just got his precious blue and orange taken away from him.
And besides, that would be helping the Knicks.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I like the mindset, but...
Do we really think Brooks is a star in the making?
Personally, I think his ceiling is a average-to-good second-option on a winning team.
I'll take that
Plus a lottery pick, Lopez, and a ton of cap space to bring in free agents or have teams trade players into.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Exactly, it's been doing anything for a star
If we don’t get Dwight, I’m done with the saving for stars. Groe them here and bring in talented guys that aren’t stars.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Jan 21, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
sure you are
once another star hits FA or his open to being traded you guys will be all over him, I know I will
well
if we use it wisely instead of just trying to whore ourselves out to every snooty assed superstar player that gets disgruntled, we might actually do something worthwhile with it…like building a team.
The Nets have not focused on building a team in 5 years, and it shows.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
yep
I’ve been saying this. I’m good going forward with Brook, Marshon, #1, possibly HOU’s pick, and cap room.
If that’s what we’re left with after the dust settles, that’s better than nothing. It could actually be a lot worse!!
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Just for the record...
In the past, when I said that the Nets wouldn’t be in a horrible position if Williams bolted, you claimed that I was being “delusional.”
was this before or after the emergence of le swag
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
i also said
“disregard depth, acquire superstars”
we’re both prone to changing our minds when presented with new information. This is good lmao
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
That's my point.
When I change my mind, I’m unsure of myself and don’t have the right to remain smug.
When you change your mind, you’re just being perceptive.
Just found it kind of funny.
You have the right to remain smug
Should you waive this right, you may also lose the right to be sarcastic.
Plan B all the way: Brook, Brooks, and whoever
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 21, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
As would I.
You and I have talked about this many times.
I’m on board. The Nets are in a decent position even if they lose Williams. I’m straight.
second option on a winning team is scottie pippen
i will take it
i was speaking from an offense standpoint
scottie’s defense made him one of the greatest of all time. but offensively he was never a main scoring guy on a winning team
really?????????
you didnt watch the bulls my friend. scottie was never a go to guy. offensively he is a complimentary player who could do some of everything: dribble, pass, shoot, drive, post up. offensively he was a jack of all trades, master of none
Nope.
Remember the 1993-4 season when Jordan played baseball, the Bulls won over 50 something games, Scottie won the MVP of the All-Star game, and the Bulls lost in 7 to the Knicks because of terrible officiatingl? Yeah. Scottie did what he had to do playing next to Jordan, but he is one of the best players EVER on both sides of the ball.
Also, that year Scottie put up something like 22-9-6, with 3 steals and a block…per game.
i agree
I don’t think there will be star potential, but a good-great player
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 21, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
So NI is saying that this all means that Dwight is not coming for sure and D-Will now knows that??
That is the reason he leaked this story to Brousard. Does this mean the dream is dead??
If so, Just trade him for Melo and lets get on with our lives. I would under no circumstances trade him to Dallas for a trade exception. If he is leaving us in the lurch, he should be penalized by not getting the extra money on his contract.
why is everyone freaking out about this article?
its nothing new, its not “dwight howard to the lakers” so i dont get what the problem is
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
yea and NI also told us before that the Nets were
doing NOTHING in regards to making moves in the offseason and then 10 hours later hump was signed….point is NI doesn’t know everything, and I think its a very far stretch to say that he is saying Dwill knowns the dwight dream is dead…of course its not dead
because this story
was leaked with a purpose behind it.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
if he's so close to
Billy King he could just walk up to him and say it… no need to go to broussard
maybe the relationship between deron and billy
is overblown on here?
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
that he has a list?
ok why wouldn’t he? if the dwight deal doesn’t go through as planned at least he is telling management now where he would like to go
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
Trade DWILL for picks!!!! sign nick young
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
Nick
we understand you are no longer happy in DC but we have no need for you…
our hearts are with the Martian (Marshon)
sooo 1 talented player is enough??
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
sure we'll keep marshon as the only scoring threat that can move with the ball
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
and we'll rely ony the likes of shawnee williams and damion james, morrow and sheldon williams
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
nick young
doesnt pass the ball to anyone
good 3rd option tho
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
Im not Mad at D-Will
it is what it is…
he isnt a top ten player
he hasnt improved our product on the court
his old team looks much better without him and their 3 worst rotation players happen to be the players they got in a trade for him
he plays a position where there is a surplus of talent
either get gasol or work a 3 way trade to get lowry and watch brooks and brook grow into something special…
His best Value to this franchise is his ability to bring a real FRANCHISE player in howard… if he cant get us D.Howard, then adios
Woj
Privately, the Magic understand where a trade for Bynum leaves them: out of the playoffs, out of relevance.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 21, 2012 2:18 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
That's what everyone has been saying
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
That is for any trade, really.
Which is why they are about to go the “hold on to Dwight” route.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
which will backfire
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
Well, maybe not.
Let us see if Billy can get that Portland trade to work again.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 21, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
If we get a definite word that Plan A is dead
I look forward to trading Dwill as soon as possible for something as awesome as possible. Not upset at all. Never warmed up to the guy. Now to go change my sig.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 21, 2012 2:21 PM EST reply actions
It's funny
if we somehow managed to beat the Thunder tonigiht, this board would be so optimistic about everything lol.
idc about beating them
i just don’t want a blowout
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
i'm optimistic now
i think the nets fave a good future
i agree, with or without dwight and dwill
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
I don't disagree
but removing the “joke” image from this franchise is incredibly important.
Having struck out on Dwight along with 20 other free agents and watching Dwill walk out the door does nothing but cement that image.
stop worrying about the "joke" image
even winning a chip doesnt guarantee that people will show your team respect…
people still treat the knicks like saints and they aint wina playoff game in 12 years….
my favorite football team won the superbowl in 2002 and people still refer to them as the “YUCS” and i hear Jets fans talking like there team is God’s gift to football
(no offense Jets fans)
winning will do away with all of that
the clippers were the biggest joke in the sports world. people called them the worse franchise in sports. no one even remembers that right now
no certain posters wouldnt be
the season is far from over and people want to throw in the towel
by mightymosdefinition on Jan 21, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
keysta
NI believes that Deron used Broussard to indirectly tell the Nets that he’s changing his mind, point blank.
Changed his mind about what, staying?
I never bought into the idea he was staying ifnwe didn’t get Dwight and I dont think the Nets did either. They knew it was all about D12.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
yeah
I’ve been saying this. I guess its just news to the folks that have been assuming that he’ll stay because of 30 million dollars
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
i didn't expect him to stay if we don't get dwight
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
The same applies to Dwight
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
apparently not
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
changing his mind on what?
staying? but broussard said the Nets are still his #1 choice is that just to save face?
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
of course we're his #1 choice
we can pay him the most, we will be in a great location, and we can get Dwight.
But if we do not get dwight, all bets are off, and I understand totally.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 21, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Things could change when Lopez comes back
But I doubt it.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
but thats what everyone knew since the Nets got DWill
either satisfy him with players or he walks. This report coming out now is nothing new.
by NJ Champ on Jan 21, 2012 2:31 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
just as long as we get assets for him
thats all i care about
memphis, indiana OKC, all added veterans pieces after having a young core,
we keep trading our young core for short cut pipe dreams, i hope we do fail with dwight, then we rebuild, again…. the right way!
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
by Tsp00n on Jan 21, 2012 2:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Only one problem
Only team that has a shot at a title is OKC, and that was a miracle
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
the thing is
i don’t trust prokhorov and the people running this team to give up on the superstar chase. if we don’t get dwight and lose deron, it wouldn’t surprise me at all to all of sudden hear that the nets are “waiting” for kevin love, or blake griffin, or whoever the hell else.
but memphis and indiana have constantly improved!
and or in a position to add a piece or 2 and become serious threats while still developing serious potential!
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
Memphis and Indiana
(more so Indiana) have no chance at winning a title. None.
You need at least 1 superstar to win a title. The only exception I can honestly think of is the Pistons but they had some really really good players.
the problem is you dont build a title over night, obviously the nets have tried the past couple of years to do just that and continue to fail.
when is the lesson learned???
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
how many superstars does philly have???
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
but they're competitive, without giving up assets and still a YOUNG team with room for growth
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
Boston was dead last
Got a big 3
OKC was dead last
Title contender
Orlando was dead last
Got Dwight Howard
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
Deron Williams
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
by nets14 on Jan 21, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
OKC and Orlando rose through the draft
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
by not trading away their picks for pipe dreams
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
hate to break it to you, dwight and DWILL still do not guarantee a title
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
had we been competitive the last couple of years maybe we would've landed a lebron or wade
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
If we had the players to be competitve
we wouldnt have the cap space to get Lebron or Wade
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
ofcourse because we can't develop drafted players to be competitive we rely on outside talent
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
chicago is chicago because of the draft,
OKC – DRAFT, Orlando – Draft, even Atlanta – Draft, these are all teams capable of doing damage
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
BECAUSE THEY WERE
DEAD LAST.
They sucked and got high lottery picks,
Some developed because they used these picks and cap space to acquire a superstar and / or develop their own.
What is so hard to understand?
Somebody said "FAIR WARNING"
and we wonder why nobody wants to come play here, because we dont care about competing
shortcuts shortcuts shortcuts, the steroid approach of being a gm
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
and thats the hard truth
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
lebron and bosh have rings?
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
ok, use them to make ur point when they do
"...but i never sat back feeling sorry for myself, if you don't give me heaven I'll raise hell..."
Lmao.
They came within 2 wins of a title in year 1.
They will win at LEAST 1 title with that group.
You’re telling me you disagree with what the Heat did because they don’t have a title yet??
BK likened Marshon to iverson (the way he is able to score) before the season started
many thought he was crazy. it seems BK knew what he was talking about. he knows that kid is special. he is not going to be so quick to give him away.
I am VERY happy with King
Rod Thorn traded Jason Kidd and got Devin Harris, who seemed great, and two picks who turned into Ryan Anderson and Damion James plus expiring deals.
Billy King traded TERRENCE WILLIAMS and JOE SMITH for Sasha Vujacic and two picks who turned into MarShon Brooks and someone TBD.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
sorta
except you rarely ever questioned his effort
I cannot see Orlando trading Dwight to LA
Bynum is clearly better than Brook (sorry guys).
But Bynum is not better tan Brook, Brooks, and the Nets pick.
I think a more likely scenario is Orlando keeping Dwight and adding a piece.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jan 21, 2012 2:36 PM EST reply actions
They have a shot at a tile and can offer Dwight 30 mil more.
Why bet against those odds?
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jan 21, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Dwight Howard has a standing trade request
watch how quickly things change if they go on a 3 game losing streak.
And as for Deron leaving
We have known that since we trading for him. BK took a huge gamble with less than great odds.
Hold on tight.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jan 21, 2012 2:37 PM EST reply actions
The Nets brass are Chris Brown
and the fans are Rihanna
by shane gayle on Jan 21, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
this
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 21, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
If by trade deadline and the NYKs are lets say 8th seed or worse... They will make Melo available...
AFter the philly game this team will go on a 6 game winning streak, book it
cleveland, toronto, indiana, detroit, minnesota, newyork
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 21, 2012 2:45 PM EST reply actions
4 of those teams are better than us
i’m not booking anything
by sheepareevil on Jan 21, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
with practice time
we are better than cleveland…..we always beat toronto….indiana is better but they play ugly ball, we are even with detroit, and while minnesota is exciting theyre not that great…..new york in my opinion stinks
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 21, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
record wise
4 of those teams are better. Toronto and Detroit are worse or even, Minnesota, New York Cleveland are just under .500, and Indiana is most definitely a playoff team.
by sheepareevil on Jan 21, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Our schedule gets much easier
a win tonight would be awesome…clearly not expected though.
Vegas has the Nets as 8pt underdogs.
I really just cant wait for this to be over
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 21, 2012 2:51 PM EST reply actions
it will never be over
here’s what we’ll be discussing next year: http://www.hoopsworld.com/2013-nba-free-agents
"Good pitching will always stop good hitting and vice-versa." -- Casey Stengel
by calling all toasters on Jan 21, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm
seems like a good class..I think we should preserve cap space.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 21, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
HE HAZ CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS!!!
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jan 21, 2012 3:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sorry for the n00b question...
… but how do you put your Twitter info in your signature?
BTW, I’ve been reading NetsDaily for a while, but only now commenting. I’m slower than Terrence Williams reaching his potential.
How do you it?
I’ve looked but cant figure it out.
by JackBauerUserID on Jan 21, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
I think the idea that Orlando is too good to trade Dwight is just ludicrous
There’s no reason to be impressed for their beating Charlotte (twice), Washington, the Nets, Toronto, Sacramento, New York, and Golden State
Those are 8 of their 11 wins, not exactly world beaters.
Orlando just needs to keep winning a lot until the trade deadline
Then go downhill from there and have an early playoffs exit.
stars
dont make a team win, winning makes a player a star…..
i know i heard someone say that but to me it rigns true
by watchoutBLo on Jan 21, 2012 3:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
So let me get this straight
There’s an article that states Williams doesn’t know anything about this list to disprove Broussard’s article but we’re to read between the lines because:
1.) Boussard and Williams have a friendly relationship and no way broussard would write that article without Williams blessing.
2.) The article states he prefers staying with the nets if we get howard but that if we don’t the lakers, magic and mavs are his preferred destinations.
3.) Williams is using Broussard to broadcast his “list” because he doesn’t want to do it publically and the right way to do it like he has ALL season (90% staying with nets during short FA), all the interviews etc.
4.) If Williams is already thinking about jumping ship then that means Dwight to NJ Nets is a lot less likely.
Not sure why Williams interview or Broussard’s quote changes anything. If you remember before he even came to the Nets he did talk about going to the Knicks, Lakers or Mavs. I remember reading that.
We all knew that if we didn’t get Dwight, very small chance to keep williams unless we put another top tier squad around him. Which we haven’t.
Net Income was being very pessimistic earlier so I’m hoping it’s because he’s trying to point out that Deron has basically confirmed (not outright but between the lines) that he is on the way out if we don’t get Dwight.
I"m hoping this doesn’t mean that we have no chance at Dwight. Don’t see how that would be unless dwight has warmed up more so to the Lakers than to Nets (which could be very likely given the standings of each respective team).
by Roccor420 on Jan 21, 2012 3:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i'm more pissed at the NEEDLESS prevarication
and the rationale behind it. That’s what bothers me.
I have long been skeptical this is all going to work out (but I also have never believed it’s Howard-or-bust for Williams since he is older than Howard and has more responsibilities and thus less likely to leave $25 million on the table.)
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
i was thinking the same thing
Mrs Dwill won’t let him turn down those dollars
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 21, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
all in all, an excellent post
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
If dwight stays with orl after the trade deadline...
You have to think we have a very good chance in the offseason.
So finally the truth coming out
When I said that it was a big mistake to follow Miami model instead we should have followed OKC model and that our plan is close to being a flop ppl like NetsKing said it was too naive.
Now I m very sure that the misery is going to be continue even in Brooklyn. Only positive is brooks.
there's a lot of pain in the OKC model as well.
and for the OKC model to work you have to have very high picks for several straight years AND pick well.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Agree
This even hurts more. We had 3rd lick in 2010, 3rd pick in 2011 plus brooks, 1-5 pick in 2012. Plus brook Lopez and we could have got few good players via free agency. Come one if it make sense to a novice like me how come big thin tanks like netsFO not able to see it.
here's my feeling on those picks
Favors isn’t and won’t ever be Durant.
Kanter isn’t and won’t ever be Westbrook.
That’s not saying that the Nets made a mistake with Favors or Utah made a mistake with Kanter. It’s just the 2007 lottery and the 2008 draft were better than 2010 and 2011. There is some luck in all of this.
ALSO, when you give up the #3 pick in the draft and wind up with the third best rookie late in the first round, you’ve done good.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
I c ur point
So what’s the plan according to u if we don’t have both Dwill n d12 going to brooklyn.
B Lopez, brooks, 1-4 2012 pick, ????
how does okc model look if durant goes number one to the blazers
and oden goes number 2 to the sonics
without one of the top 3 players in the league okc isnt much better than a middle of the road western conference team if that
by mightymosdefinition on Jan 21, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
yeah its very unlikely that we could build this team from the draft like okc durants and westbrooks don't come easy
More MarShon Please
MarShon got that Swag Sauce; he dripping Swagoo!
That’s our Franchise player! A real player that has heart and is gunning for all!
J-Kidd to D-Will
The NBA needs to stop treating players like they are Gods
Owners need to realize that there are players coming out of college who are and would appreciate a chance to be on a team. Star players like Deron Williams can be replaced by a MarShon Brooks. Its just like me going to work and telling my boss if you don’t get this person to work with me then I’m gone. The result will be me being unemployed.
Dre Day all day
this coming draft can very well help turn around this nets franchise because it is a great draft...
this is why if we have to trade dwill, 2012 draft picks have to somehow be a part of the equation. we already have a lottery pick (and possible houston pick) in this draft. we should push for a couple of mid first round picks somehow. this may have to invole another team or 2 in the trade, but whatever it takes, this is the way we should go.
because if we can get marshon at #25 in a weak draft, imagine what we can get in a talented draft- having multiple picks…
not happening
wedtbrook is better and younger
by William_H_HOLLA on Jan 21, 2012 4:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ESPN pregame segment - very upbeat on Lakers prospects on getting Dwight
Magic Johnson was enjoying his new segment “the Magic 8-ball”. When the 8 ball got asked if Dwight was going to be a Laker by seasons end. Broussard said yes and Magic did a little “invisible ball” handling and agreed. I was quite bummed as Broussard educated guess is that’s where he is going and Magic (theoretically in the know concerning Lakers) concurred.
Anyone else moved by this piece? Or please tell me Magic has no idea what is going on with the Lakers.
Also funny was Jon Barry defending his pick of Eyan Anderson as the 5th best PF in the league. I think over Bosh and Boozer. There was much riddling but good for Ryan that he was even in the discussion.
by whoopdeedamndo on Jan 21, 2012 8:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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