Bynum for Howard? Nothing New
by Net Income on Jan 20, 2012 8:53 AM EST
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PrintMike Bresnahan and Broderick Turner of the Los Angeles Times report that the Lakers and Magic have not been engaged in trade talks for Dwight Howard in "a while" and that Howard may have less interest, not more, after a lengthy conversation with Kobe Bryant that made the Magic center realize it's still Kobe's team.
"Kobe Bryant has had at least one in-depth phone conversation with Howard recently, even discussing how Howard might fit in with the Lakers' scheme," the two report. "One person with knowledge of the conversation said Howard came away feeling as if he wouldn't be the Lakers' top option, for obvious reasons. It's Bryant's team."
No one is saying talks are dead, but as Bresnahan and Turner write, Bynum continues to play well and he's two years younger than Howard. Plus, he's theirs.
- Lakers-Magic center swap might be on back burner - Mike Bresnahan and Broderick Turner - Los Angeles Times
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Add to this, tweets from Kyler and Coon
That the Magic aren’t interested in Bynum (yeah right) and that its “Nets and everyone else” in the chase for Dwight… we seem to be pretty well set.
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Kyler doesnt know a thing
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Look NI
My list of trusted reporters with sauwcez goes like this:
- Steve Kyler
- stevieboynets
- Larry Coon
- JRon
- Sly Fox
- Jerry25
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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Tal has no sources
Unless you want to talk about people with inside knowledge of building permits.
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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Steve Kyler is below StevieboyNets and SlyFox, but ahead of JRon and Jerry25
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Where is ataxo when you need him?
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he sleeps with the fishes
I was in Jersey City yesterday, Liberty State Park, taking pictures because you never know.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
They've got a statue over there I hear
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LOL @jerry25
but seriously, you can substitute Ric Bucher.
It was Bucher who publicly (on ESPN) called for Howard to entertain Nets as his best option (and Howard seems to be listening).
Are you sure Howard isn’t listening to Deron Wiliiams?
by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:06 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Coon also said last week the Nets seem to be the favorites to get Dwight
and that they’re confident they’ll make a deal after the all star.
As I've mentioned
I think Orlando is using Bynum as leverage against the Nets.
They likely aren’t (and shouldn’t) be interested in Bynum for a couple of reasons:
1) Bynum is inarguably better than Lopez, but Lopez is very good and though he finally suffered the first injury of his career, Bynum’s injury history is FAR SCARIER especially if you compare it to the data on basically all big men in the history of the NBA.
Bill Simmons did just that, analyzing the careers of all the notable bigs who’ve played in the last 35 years by how many games they played and how many games they missed. The list included Dwight Howard, Karl Malone, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Kevin McHale, Charles Barkley, Dikembe Mutombo… etc you get the idea.
Here’s what he found:
What jumps out? First, the durable guys remained durable throughout their careers, with just one exception: McHale, who ruined the second half of his career by bravely (and some would say foolishly) playing on a broken foot in the 1987 playoffs. Second, anyone who missed more than 80 games and couldn’t play in 90 percent of the games in at least four of their first six seasons went on to have injury-plagued careers. And third, if you can’t stay on the court at your youngest/healthiest/freshest/most energetic, it’s a pretty safe bet that things won’t change as you get older.
It’s straight DNA: Some dudes are structurally built for 82-game NBA seasons, others aren’t. So if you make the argument “If Bynum can stay healthy, he’s a franchise center,” just make sure you also mention that we have 35 years of evidence that there’s a tipping point when “If he can stay healthy …” becomes “… he’s not going to stay healthy.” We’re there with Andrew Bynum. He’s not going to stay healthy. If I were the Lakers, I would trade him right now.
(Actually, what am I saying? They should definitely keep him! The guy is built like solid oak!)
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/110217
Are you really trading your franchise player for one of the least durable bigs in recent memory not named Greg Oden? And nothing else? What else are you going to get? Bad draft picks? No cap relief? Lord knows they’re not getting Gasol with him.
2) Plus, Bynum expires after next year. What if he doesn’t want to re-up either? Brook is a near guarantee from a health perspective, and Brook is a LOCK from a location perspective. He’d be in heaven in Orlando while probably costing less.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 20, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
"Bynum is inarguably better than Lopez."
False.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Bro, when healthy
He can get his buckets and DEVOUR rebounds.
He’s better.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 20, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Play chicken DH!
You want to come here in FA. You, Deron, Brooks, Lopez, and a Top 5 pick.
DH now is Devin Harris, who is reportedly on the trade block.
Knicks would love him write now (or after Baron Davis fails).
Lakers TPE isn’t big enough to land DH (Devin Harris).
The confusion over interest in Bynum by ORL may stem from two factions in ORL:
The GM Otis and the 85 year owner (who wants to win NOW) who apparently wasn’t away of Bynum’s knee issues.
Once the owner became aware of Bynum’s health concerns, there was NO WAY a straight deal was an option. Must include Gasol. Yet if Howard doesn’t want to go to LA, then there is no way LAL takes that risk of his resigning – even for just Bynum.
by jerry25 on Jan 20, 2012 8:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Not that he has 1st hand knowledge....
but Ric Bucher wrote that it would take multiple (top) pieces to land Howard, and no way ORL would take a risk on just Bynum.
Bucher (who first revealed Dallas was on Howard’s list) still maintains Nets, LAL and Dallas (before Howard lost some interest in LAL). Dallas of course has nothing to trade for Howard, putting Nets in driver’s seat if Lopez comes back healthy.
So what?
what Smith says now and what he may HAVE to DO on March 15 could be wholly different.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 20, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Still, it is Brook Lopez' health which is what everyone should watch out for.
Even if Bynum stays healthy, Nets can offer a better package (esp. if Howard won’t promise LAL) by including MarShon and use 4 1st round picks to get another top player. That would be THREE desirable players, not to mention the possibility of The Hump (if he agrees).
we're not including Marshon
or at least I’m still hoping we won’t have to
Boo
How can the Lakers offer only Bynum and we have to offer Lopez, Brooks, and four first rounders? I’m not sure even Howard is worth that. Sorry
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
haha i want dude is smoking
i wouldnt even include our top draft pic this year…
I would include our first rounder
in a heartbeat. How about Lopez, OJ Mayo, Jordan Farmar, the Rockets pick + 2 Nets first rounders for Howard and some cap relief?
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
you can't trade players you don't have
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Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
by Taylor Made on Jan 20, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
unless it's a three team deal
then you can
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 20, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
well yes
but I would assume if it were a 3 team deal he would have said so and mentioned who Memphis would be getting.
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by Taylor Made on Jan 20, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
true
in my case, Lopez, Okur, Mayo to Orlando maybe cash and a pick
Farmar or Morrow and picks to Memphis
Dwight to NJ
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 20, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
That's exactly it
Same deal with Melo. The second it gets closer to reality, the more nervous Orlando management will get. Either they run the risk of losing Howard for nothing or they trade him and get a decent return. Their choice.
I'll wait
for stevieboynets to provide a full transcript of the phone conversation.
NetsDaily.com
by NetsDaily on Jan 20, 2012 8:59 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
As much as I want Howard here to turn the Nets into an instant title contender, is he going to suddenly decide the team is his? Is he going to demand we sign Gilbert Arenas and other terrible players who won’t show him up?
by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:02 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Brooks for Arenas
good deal!!
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DWill can't even get a handle on his turnovers
DWill oop to D12
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I don’t think he’d consider it his team even though he probably would be the number 1 option. I think he would share the ranks w/ DWill, the person who it all started with.
It's going to be our Stockton and Malone, almost equal but
Malone was still the big guy, Stockton just right behind him. It’s going to be 1-2 with Howard and DWill.
Gilbert Arenas might not play again
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
I can't see how the Magic are going to let him walk
Do they take Bynum with the knee problem or Lopez with the foot problem? HMMM
"Losing is the same as winning, only with fewer points." - Keith Van Horn (90s Nike commercial)
Does one issue with a foot constitute a problem, like Bynum's knees are a problem?
I’d say Lopez is 2-3 more foot injuries, freak incidents or not, away from it being a nagging problem.
Bynum's knee issues could be considered freak accidents
And despite them, hasn’t slowed his game thus far. Of course it’s very early in the season… he never plays a full season.
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Nets players coming off of foot surgery in the last 5 seasons...
Bobby Simmons
Travis Outlaw
Damion James
Let’s hope Brook comes back better than any of them, but none of them ever got back to where they were before the surgery.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jan 20, 2012 9:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
All were serviceable...
Simmons enough to be the league’s most improved one year, and Outlaw enough to be a fan favorite in Portland and enough to earn a ridiculous contract with us. We see how both ended up afterwards though. Legs like cement in both cases.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hear "Little Bit of Kobe" also called him to say
he would like to play with him.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 20, 2012 9:08 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Wait, MarShon Brooks called Dwight to tell him he wants to play with him??
This kid…
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Deron was on the phone with Dwight and Marshon told him to clear out
so he can talk to the big guy.
Petro probably isn't even allowed to wear
A Jersey underneath his warm ups anymore….Just in case
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
by Atronic on Jan 20, 2012 9:32 AM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Anybody realize that Petro
has been half serviceable this year?
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, he has been of some help in some games.
The guy was working hard in the off-season, form what we read here.
I don't hate him as much as I used to
I accept him for what he is. I’d rather he didn’t play, but if he comes in for 10 minutes and grabs a few rebounds, maybe hits the open J, I can’t be mad. I"ve now reserved all my hate for Farmar
by sheepareevil on Jan 20, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
That's my boy the Chef
Let him Cook!!
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
by Atronic on Jan 20, 2012 9:29 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Oops! Last time I’ll post this image for anybody annoyed they’re seeing it for the 2nd or 3rd time.
by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
-1 Dwight is Superman because everyone knows who Superman is
Who is the Martian Manhunter? he is like the 7th string DC character
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Why dont you just photoshop Brooks's face on this guy from 300
He wasnt a main character but he is still a Spartan.
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
He is about as recognizable as this
His head is shaped like a Moiso
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
that's Shelden Williams
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 20, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You mean Captian Akbar
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Reporter asked Sheldon what do you think about Sat game vs OKC?
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
OMG
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Funny the Marshon Clippers highlights
I posted in the other thread at the end of the game while D-will and CP3 were talking, CP3 starts showing the Chef some love.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
by Atronic on Jan 20, 2012 9:29 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
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http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/42158
Jonathan (NYC)
Melo for D-Will?
John Hollinger (12:56 PM)
Makes a ton of sense for Jersey. Makes some sense for New York. Keep in mind that this could be done as an extend-and-trade after the season as well. I would expect the Knicks to ask for a sweetener, given that they’re basically saving the Nets from Armageddon and that Melo is having a better year than Williams.
i've seen this all over the web
its pretty much idiocy
and good luck if D-Will wants to play with Amare’s broken down ass.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 20, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't want Melo, he had his chance. Let the Knicks be what they want to be -
just a playoff team who won’t go very far. Melo would just hinder the development of Marshon.
I would say that Melo is MUCH better than nothing
I would do that in a second. Not sure the knicks would do it. Then we go after Felton and:
Felton
Brooks
Mello
Davis
Brook
I think OKC offering Westbrook the Max puts that Trade speculation to end.
Read the Woj article from yesterday. They aren’t trading him. Weren’t interested in CP3 and won’t be interested in Williams.
DWill has more trade value than CP3. CP3 is injured right now.
The extension makes it MORE likely Nets would agree to trade for him at deadline – but only if DWill asked for a trade.
If Westbrook isn’t great during the next 2 months, I could see OKC preferring DWill.
The Knicks plan is DWill-Howard-Amare
Melo for DWill now
then DWill recruits Howard to NY, which creates cap space by dumping Chandler (on a team like the Warriors which wanted him before). It would work cap-wise next year actually.
DWill-Howard-Amare — that is the Knicks’ evil plan.
lol, just trying to figure out why the Knicks would consider a Melo for DWill scenario
Saying it won’t be just about those two players is what it is.
cuz Melo needs to be "the guy" while the team is filled with good role players
like the Dallas BluePrint. But Knicks fell in love with the idea of having two super stars disregarding whether they can build chemistry.
dunno why this got posted twice...
…and it’s missing the body of the message.
If only this were NBA2K12
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Carmelo Anthony is just horribly overrated.
by SadNetsFan on Jan 20, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
No
only slightly overrated.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know how to make sure anyone can get this article, as it was on insider at ESPN over a year ago, but look up Tom Haberstroh’s “Carmelo Anthony is not an Elite Player”
You don’t trade an entire team + cap space for a good player, you trade that for an elite player. Carmelo is not elite, and is therefore horribly overrated. The end.
try comparing last five games
Nets 2-3 with D-Will, 20.8/9.6 and shooting 42.8% overall and 51.7% from three.
Knicks 1-4 with Melo 21.5/7.8, shooting 34.5% overall, 26.7% from deep. (out one game)
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by Net Income on Jan 20, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Magic lose leverage every day
- havent discussed trade in weeks with LA
- Lopez coming back soon
- Howard hasnt recinded trade request like they had hoped
BK should tell them that he is unwilling to take back Hedo and that Starshon is untouchable. At this point it seems we are only bidding against ourselves. We negotiated in good faith earlier this season only to have Orlando pull out of the agreed upon trade in the final hour. It’s time to punish them for that disrespect.
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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 9:30 AM EST reply actions
Dwight should take back his trade reuqest...
And play out the season.
I'm starting to agree with you on this
It’s now between us and whoever is willing to rent Dwight for half a season. Why should we pay a crazy price when we have the ability to sign him outright in the offseason. Let’s learn from the Melo fiasco
Critical Success!
Yeah but the Knicks were a good team before Melo
They traded away all their good players for him. The Nets are NOT a good team.
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What’s to say that the Nets don’t become a ‘good’ team when Lopez comes back?
Not that I think they will, but what’s to say? ;)
Agree, although I'm not sure we would be deserving of it
What do you think our actual record would be?
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I'd say 7-8
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
we'd have the same problems if Brook never went down in terms of...
…team chemistry.
We could have 2 more wins. But the team would’ve still had a hard time finding it’s footing like every other team in the league. And we’d probably be ripping Lopez for no reason and wondering why he and DWill can’t get on the same page.
The team is starting to get an offensive identity. Brook sees it, and since Avery will slowly work him into the flow of the offense…his injury may have worked to the Nets benefit afterall cuz Brook will have to find his niche on this offense(scoring inside of course) but being that he’ll slowly make his way into form, this process could go smoothly.
by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think if Brook doesn't go down
We don’t see the development of Brooks that we are.
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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yup
and seeing how Brooks finds Hump in the paint now; only makes sense that he’ll find Lopez too. Nets can be a dark horse w/o a dwight trade.
If the East remains this bad, who knows?
But we’re going to have to scrap together a couple of impressive wins + beat the bad teams in order to have a shot at it.
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agreed...
…we just won’t be beating any real good teams til Brook gets back. The team has to say within 5 to 8 games of .500 before Lopez is here and playing. IF nets fall to 10 games below or more, it’ll ruin their confidence and the season. Yeah they could rebound from being that bad but it just wouldn’t be good. lol.
by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Why?
We still need perimeter ball handlers and defenders. Brooks was going to this burn no matter what.
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Also, sorry to double-comment, but the Warriors were playing their 4th game in 5 nights and David Lee has always been a terrible post defender.
The Nets are NOT as terrible as they have looked so far
and we are only 2.5 games out for the 8th seed!
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by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Because when you have a chance to get him, you do it
It guarantees Deron stays and guarantees good basketball going into Brooklyn. The future is now.
Nets have the stronger assets at this point...
Brook (corss fingers he is healthy), Brooks (getting national attention and gets better every game), top pick in amazing draft, hopefully another #1 pick from Houston and cap space.
Brook, Brooks, lottery pick, Houston pick, cap space. I think we are the favorite both at the trade deadline and in FA. Question is how much we give up and when.
Would like to keep Hump as he and Dwight would be a monster front court. Morrow would be good enough to start if we trade Brooks. SF would be an issue but hopefully MLE or Bogs would do.
I have faith in Billy whereas I had none in Rod.
DH12 needs a 4 that can
stretch the floor, not Hump type player who duplicates what DH12 does.
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i don't know about that
Griffin and Jordan basically duplicate each other’s games and CP3 makes those two look like a high flying act anyway.
So what should we be rooting in the ORL/LAL game...
….for D12 to totally dominate Bynum? Or for Bynum get his stats against D12?
lol...
…it prolly won’t matter either way. IF Orlando wins and D12 showcases himself to the tune of a 30 rebound game…then that could be real damaging to the Nets efforts in these trade talks.
HAHA let him Cook!!!!
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
trade scenario
if howard is traded to lakers.. i think the nets should trade dwill+bad contracts like petro for curry,udoh,1strd(gsw are willing to take a rental for cp3 cant see why not with dwill).. now nets will have 3 lottery picks. with curry/brook/lopez core.. not a bad idea i believe.. :)
by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 9:53 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Andddddddd here I am to crush your dreams.
We gave Utah the Warrior’s 2012 1st rounder for D-Will. DOH!!!
not a big deal.. still have 2 2012 pick with the warriors 2013 or 2014 pick..
by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 9:58 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
i keep going with the trade DWill idea if Dwight is traded to Lakers...
…but I also keep thinking where will DWill find a situation where he has backcourt mate like MarShon; a frontcourt of Lopez/Hump which is better than people give it credit for and the assets to build around all this in the short and long term? Then add to that the extra 30 mill he makes by staying and the input he gets on personnel moves.
by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
I almost want to say...
…go and buy your DWill Jerseys and have no fear of it being a waste of money.
by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
If the Nets are gonna have to trade DWill here's one idea that could work
Deron for Tony Parker and Kawhi Leonard. Dwill would not be upset at going to San Antonio, because it’s in Texas and they have good players, a good coach, and a good front office. Tony Parker has said before that he has interest in New York, and Leonard has serious Gerald Wallace potential.
As for wacky reporting
Saw AI’s byline in Newsday this morning for the first time…it was reported a few days ago, but seeing it was as strange as I thought it would be.
Such a waste of talent being shackled as the Knicks beat for the Dolan’s mouthpiece.
Sadly, I unfollowed him
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No doubt it's a professional step up in many ways
But it’s very sad nonetheless. On a related note, I seriously wonder if Newsday will spring for a Nets beat once the team actually moves to Brooklyn.
by brother_rat on Jan 20, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
NI has been asking that for a year now
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Nets believe it will happen
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I do, too
The question is whether it will be someone of substance. I predict either some kid right out of college with few credentials, or dredging up Bernie Beglane.
by brother_rat on Jan 20, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
I seriously hope that otis smith is crazy enough to keep dwight after the trade deadline a trio of d12, swag, and dwill would be awesome
by antdatruth08 on Jan 20, 2012 10:03 AM EST via mobile reply actions
DWill,D12,Brooks and Lopez
IMO would be a #1 seed in the whole league. If not the 1st year then the year after
to be honest
i like thinking about a frontline of hump & dwight. if we got dwight i would flip lopez for a 3. there’s no way on earth lopez can play the 4
imagine something extremely witty here
lopez and dwight together will never happen haha
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 20, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
The week before the All Star game Starshon should fake a serious injury
This way the Magic wont want him
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:05 AM EST reply actions
To each their own
To me he is Starshon.
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
And FYI I liked Marbury when he was good
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
If Howard does indeed end up in L.A. then he would in-turn only be replacing Bynum as the "Garbage-Man"
and then should change his name to…
Just to quote Dwight from his twitter, he sent a tweet to some fan
@danteparman love how everything y’all see y’all believe. If it ain’t from the horse don’t believe it. But God bless u
Another weak performance by Dirk last night
12 pts, 5-12 fg and 5 rebs in 37 minutes.
for the season, he is averaging
17.5 ppg (his lowest scoring avg in his career since his sophomore season)
.456 fg (his lowest fg % since his rookie season). —> pretty bad for a 7 footer
5.4 rpg (his lowest rebounding avg since his rookie season) —> horrible for a 7 footer… Brook averaged 6rpg and the media was killing him (rightfully so).
And this is the guy Deron is supposed to give up on money to play with? He still is a good player, but he is not a superstar anymore and he isn’t getting any better.
Even if we don’t land Dwight, we offer Deron the best scenario with a young core. Going to Dallas to play with a 34 yr old Dirk who is already showing huge sign of slowing down isn’t gonna cut it either.
The grass isn’t always greener on the other side.
It'll be greener once he gets to Texas
Which I have little doubt is his plan if we don’t get Dwight.
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Texas has beeen in a terrible drought for 2 yrs
Nothing green there
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 20, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Dirk is just going through the motions and he isn't in shape. He'll get there
of course he’s still a superstar.
by GrandKenyon6 on Jan 20, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
anyone see the poll on realgm asking “Which center from the 2008 NBA Draft class will have the best career over the next five seasons?”
5500 votes and they have:
B. Lopez 22.2%
Hibbert 29.8%
McGee 10.9%
D. Jordan 29.2%
R. Lopez 1.2%
Asik 6.8%
Totally disagree w/ that.
same
d.jordan isn’t as good as everyone thinks, he doesn’t seem to have much of an offensive game besides dunking and overpowering everyone while Brook has so many post moves and a sweet jump hook
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correction: Jordan offensive game is zero, he just dunks and without oposition, he doesn't overpower anyone, unless he's alone he can't make a basket...
He doesn’t have a single post move, can’t shoot the ball, and looks like Shaq shooting free throws, but he does have great defensive potential.
2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!
and he is better than brook?
or are we just being biased
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jordan defense is better then lopez thats all
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 20, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
yea true
well lopez plays decent defense (not even close to dwight), but he is such an offensive machine that he when he is in the post its over for the defender
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Lopez a decent defender?
No he’s a really bad defender, the only thing he does defensively is blocking some shots, but in one on one defense he’s trash
2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!
But if we build the SuperTeam he won't look so bad on defense for various reasons:
- Dwight will cover his back;
- Sometimes we can clearly see that he “let’s” the opponent score, because he’s afraid of getting in foul trouble, and he and everyone knows, we need him on the floor to carry the load offensively;
- Different players create different dynamics, and if all the players around Lopez play defense, he will play some too.
2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!
No, I truly believe Brook the best of the 3.
Lopez has the best post moves of a pure Center in the entire league.
2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!
I only see 2 more big mans with such an arsenal as Lopez, Gasol and Al Jefferson, but they are both primarly PF.
2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!
yes, jordan is raw in offensive abilities, but he is much much better defensively than lopez. tyson chandler doesnt have offensive moves but he dominates the defensive side that’s why he is so attractive..
by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
result of hot young teams getting more TV time.
not everyone gets YES
by Dolphins_Nets on Jan 20, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
yea i know
and brook is so underrated because he plays for the Nets so no one take him seriously..its a shame
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No one takes him seriously because he rebounded like Andrea Bargnani last year
People like to pass it off always as “he plays for the Nets”, but Kevin Love has always been adored and he’s in Minnesota.
It’s about how good you are, period.
he is very good though
you can’t deny that and even if he didn’t rebound well he changes this whole team, kevin loves doesn’t do that he put up amazing numbers last year BUT HIS TEAM KEPT LOSING, when brook puts up great numbers the nets usually win or at least extremely competitive, if love went down today everytime the twolves lost a game they would say “well kevin love is out so…” but when the nets lose its just because we suck like c’mon man!
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hibbert plays in a much smaller market.. its just that gm’s prefer athleticism and defense over offense . it just shows that lopez is not as attractive as what 90% of net fans says..
by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 11:11 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
Hibbert is the most balanced of the 3 in offensive and defensive terms.
Lopez is the best in offense and Jordan the better defender.
But ultimately as best player Lopez will prove to be the better one.
2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!
I have a feeling BK and Otis are going to agree to an offer similar to the Lopez/Wallace deal
Portland has (and I think wants to transition to) Batum.
The Lakers are really the only team that can drive the price up – they definitely have the incentive to at least bluff and create a bidding war, but how will BK react?
Otis will push for Marshon no doubt, that’s where I’m a bit worried. BK needs to take him off the table.
There’s too much risk of getting nothing for D12 – the Magic are playing well but they always play well and lose in the playoffs. Something will go down before the deadline.
by Dolphins_Nets on Jan 20, 2012 10:27 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
One thing about Wallace and Portland
Wallace is up for a new contract, so they might not want to pay him long term, especially since by the end of the contract he’ll be around 34 and his game is based on athleticism. He’s also not that comfortable playing the 4, which makes it problematic since they have Batum too. Also, Batum has stated publicly that playing time will be the major factor in determining where he wants to go.
So I think there’s a decent chance that they do let go of Wallace, but it might take a bit more than just draft picks now. Unless…. they get the Nets’ 2012 pick instead of Orlando
Agree
I would go as far as to say Portland is looking to deal Wallace.
Rich Cho brought Wallace in (great move), but he’s gone now
by Dolphins_Nets on Jan 20, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
if the lakers are going to create a bidding war
It will be like what we did to the knicks last year with melo. we will give up a lot but we will have too.
by netsfan1591 on Jan 20, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Agree
I would go as far as to say Portland is looking to deal Wallace.
Rich Cho brought Wallace in (great move), but he’s gone now
Milwaukee reporter says on radio "every Bucks player is available"
And says Magic like Bogut over Bynum (and obviously over Lopez I’m assuming). Could be a 3 teamer sending Gasol to the Bucks and Bogut to the Magic. I’m assuming maybe the same deal with Lopez possibly?
Anyone down with this trade? Lottery pick goes to Milwaukee.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=76g433d
Listen to this at about 90%-95% of the way through:
http://wssp.radiotown.com/audio/The_Big_Show/011912BIGHR3.mp3
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Headline should've really been that the Magic like Bogut, per this reporter
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Don't know if Bucks would trade away Bogut and Jennings for Brook and a top 10 pick
It’s not really a whole lot of a greater rebuilding move than just keeping Jennings and trading away Bogut/everything else alone
Well he's saying everyone's available
Brook Lopez gets you the “next” Bogut, and you can dictate terms of his contract with him. Jennings is replaced by a lottery pick that they decide how to rebuild with. Might take a few more draft picks here and there, but I don’t think it’s an awful deal for all teams.
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if I were the magic I would rather have lopez and the lotto pick than bogut and jennings.
"Beware the Ides of March."
So would I
But I’m just going on what that “Bucks Insider” said about everyone being available on the Bucks, and the Magic liking Bogut a lot.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
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Would the Bucks take Gasol?
Wouldn’t be smart. Brook is better if they are going to unload Bogut and Jennings. Get on the phone Billy.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
I actually think it was Bynum going to Milwaukee
And they made the point that Bynum might not have any interest. Which of course means he can leave after next year.
Lopez would be locked up at whatever the market dictates, as a RFA.
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oh i see
Let’s hope the Bucks won’t take the risk on Bynum not resigning. LA to Milwaukee is something I can’t see him being interested in on a personal and social level. The deal involving Brook and the Nets makes the most sense for the 3 teams involved. Good trade. Hope Billy, Otis and John Hammond think so too.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
I guess you didn't open the link or read the post?
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
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Are the Magic really high on 13 ppg on 44% shooting?
If so, they must be subscribers to High Times Magazine
by Anthony Perez on Jan 20, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
With that said
I like the trade for us and Bucks.
I think the Magic screw themselves on that one though.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
On a team loaded with 3-point shooters signed to long-term deals
You need a presence down low to open them up.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 20, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure if Milwaukee goes for it
Can’t see them give up Bogut & Jennings, even for a lottery pick in return, but it’s a deal that might get Orlando listening. I can see them doing Lopez for Bogut though, if the Magic really do like Bogut better than Lopez. The Bucks would shake things up a bit with a younger, typically more durable center that will be making similar money to Bogut is now making.
Here’s a slightly different twist on a similar deal to debate (2 Simultaneous trade to make them work cap-wise):
Deal 1) Milwaukee also gets a $3.8mil trade exception.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6vrfnkq
Deal 2) Orlando also gets a $6.1mil trade exception.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=87exbrh
except
that will be making similar money to Bogut is now making
except that B-Lo is an RFA after this year and someone’s going to offer him max money
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
Doubtful
What team with cap space would offer Lopez a max deal coming off of a stress fracture? That’s a bigger deal than guys like Nene, Horford, Noah & Bogut got. That’s extremely unlikely.
Even if he did get max money, his max starts at $14.5mil. Bogut makes $13.2mil next year. It’s not a huge difference even in the worst case scenario.
may be possible
maybe throw in a 4th team that is rumored to be looking to give someone up. Replace jennings with Mayo
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 20, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
One the topic at hand
Do we know if it matters to Dwight if he’s the top option or not? He hasn’t exactly sent out a lot of “I wanna be the man all the time” vibes, I think. SVG’s questioned his leadership out there because he always just wants to have fun
It has to matter
Which is probably why LA is a distant third.
Kerber's factoids on Twitter are nice pieces of input
Factoid: Nets 15 games were against teams that r combined 22 games OVER .500; Knix 14 games against teams combined 34 games UNDER .500
Factoid: 5 of Nets (10th place) 1st 15 opps not in a current playoff spot; 10 of Knix (8th place) 1st 14 opps not in a current playoff spot
by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 10:48 AM EST reply actions 13 recs
but but the knicks are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good
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but itz duhhh meccaaa
MarSwag Swaggity Swag
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
DUH GUHHHDEN
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Would this be possible
Houston gets
Beasley
Minny gets
Morrow
NJ gets
Thabeet
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=72v9bqu
This would help us clear out more cap space as Thabeet has a team option for next year and gives us an actual 7ft presence. Minny needs a SG and have a glut of SF/PF. Houston gets Beasley for nothing but increases their chances of making the playoffs. If Houston makes the playoffs then we get their ’12 pick
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:55 AM EST reply actions
Your missing the point
This trade isnt about Tabeet, it’s about getting the Rockets into the playoffs so we can get their draft pick.
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Why we need Thabeet
and why we give away Morrow.
Official Member of the "DO NOT ABUSE BROOK LOPEZ" Movement
i watched a lot of UConn games
Thabeet is trash…Blair used to dominate him even in college
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
He’s a D role player, nothing more. His hoped offensive skills never came around.
Pass. Especially for Morrow. Did D12 ever say that he wanted to play with Hasheem Thabeet? I think not.
by brother_rat on Jan 20, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
The Nets don't have enough NBA talent to be trading any of it away.
Especially talent that is reasonably priced.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Why would Houston want anything to do with Beasley?
They have a very smart front office and understand that Beasley is terrible.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
They need another scorer
As good as Parson’s played, Beasley would be an instant upgrade.
The Nets desperatley need Houston to make the playoffs since that gives us an extra pick in this years draft.
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Scorer?
Beasley is terrible at basketball. They are not some idiot front office that looks at PPG.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Sorry but anyone who claims TWill cant judge about who is good at basketball
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
And anyone that thinks Beasley is somebody Daryl Morey would be interested in
Is worth ignoring.
Also, for the record… DWill is an awful player and I loathe the Black Eyed Peas. It’s called irony.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Thabeet is not worth giving up Morrow just for cap space
At least with the OJ Mayo rumors, he could actually step in and contribute something.
after visiting other pages on sb nation
words can’t express how much i love this site, im crying
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 10:56 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
marshon's game is syrup
slow, smooth and sweet.
imagine something extremely witty here
by Gminski on Jan 20, 2012 11:00 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
u know what...
…sometimes the ‘slow’ part worries me but then the kid still finds his shot. BUT THEN…during the GSW game, there was one play towards the end of the game where he put this move on Ellis and it was lightning quick — Brooks ended up missing the shot or getting fouled or something…but it came out of nowhere. I don’t think we’ve seen this kid’s whole repertoire yet and that’s what’s real scary.
by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
definitely not
its only been like 15 games and he’s playing like a Veteran. I think there’s a lot left to see
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I was rewatching some highlights
And there was a time when he sprinted down the floor to catch a Deron pass, and was faster than everybody by a LONG shot.
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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
don't get me wrong, he's very fast and quick
but he plays in such control and his moves are so deliberate that it looks like he plays in slow motion. i think this is awesome because a lot of rookies let the defender control their movements and pacing. he always dictates the pace no matter who covers him. that’ s advanced, advanced stuff
imagine something extremely witty here
Joe Johnson speed
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
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and marshons pump/head fakes are close to
kobe levels right now
imagine something extremely witty here
Veteran BBIQ
At least on offense.
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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And I’m very impressed with the way he gets his hands into the passing lanes.
by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and i don't think
he’s against playing D mentally. phyiscally he’s got the tools.
pre-season i thought he might be nick youngesque. he’s already beyond that.
imagine something extremely witty here
by Gminski on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yup
Nick Young is more Jamal Crawford.
Marshon is more…I shouldn’t say names yet and jinx it.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 20, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Similar to Paul Pierce's slow deliberate game.
Marshon has a different style.. but his pace is similar to Pierce. You have no idea how they create their space but they just do.
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by swampass on Jan 20, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Would the Wizards be willing to send their 2012 1st rounder, Blatche, Nick Young, Jordan Crawford (AKA all their dysfunctional players) to the Magic if they get Brook Lopez in return?
That might be more appealing to the Magic, getting the best shot at Anthony Davis. Though, as we all know, the team with the worst record still has a 75% chance of not getting the 1st overall pick. So maybe Washington will be willing to take the sure thing in Lopez
Restrictions on Nick Young, so it comes down to
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7s9fn6s
Brook to Washington, Blatche, Crawford, 1st rounder to Orlando, Dwight, Duhon to Nets. The Nets’ first rounder can be thrown in there too either to Orlando or Washington
JaVale would have to be included in that deal
and even then I doubt they’d do it.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
Anthony Davis is an awfully tempting carrot to dangle, this guy is off the charts defensively
and if the Nets give Orlando their pick too, that’s two top 10 picks in a stacked draft to go a long with some flawed talent in Blatche, Crawford and Farmar
My guess?
NO.
Blatche has another three years… true (awful contract). But Nick Young is going to be a free agent and Crawford only has one more guaranteed year before his option.
They aren’t going to give up a potential franchise player just to get Blatche off their books. There are other ways of doing that. Heck, they could choose to amnesty Blatche instead of Lewis (whose contract expires after next season).
A potential #1 is way too valuable. Won’t happen.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Wizards would not do that
Their owner is also the owners of Washington Capitals. Look how they were built. They were terrible few years back and he built a contender through the draft. He would follow the same formula. They got lucky with Wall just like they got lucky with Ovechkin. They would never give away a shot at drafting Davis.
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so according to shaq bynums offensive moves and way better then howards thats why he's so much better have you seen lopez offensive moves
More MarShon Please
He also said
Courtney Lee was a “STAR.” Not sure I want Shaq as my GM any time soon.
D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)
by corky_romano4life on Jan 20, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Offensive moves are nice and all
But production is what wins in the NBA.
And Bynum has never been as productive as Howard…. not even this year.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
I say we'll end up with 1-2
Brooklyn we go hard...
by Fabio Villani on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
1-2
only if Petro doesnt play
MarSwag Swaggity Swag
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
who are we playing?
OKC=L unless we play like we did against the warriors and our defense steps up
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
I say we go
3-0
Lets go Nets.
They should get another practice in before tomorrows game.
HERE WE GO!!!!!
At least Stephen Graham isn't around to foul isht up...
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
OKC, CHA, and CHI
loss, win, loss
MarSwag Swaggity Swag
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 11:12 AM EST reply actions
nah
win win loss
2-1 OKC is soft!
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pshhhh
you crazy!
MarSwag Swaggity Swag
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Iannazzone
I know we have our own issues, and I do respect Al’s work when he was with the Nets…but isn’t nice for a change to see him reporting the negativity for that other team across the river?
something nice written about Lopez?
This is FNBA related but still, i like that someone thinks highly of Brook:
There are a few things in life that make us feel really, really good. A piping hot steak off the grill. The love of a beautiful woman. A new high score in Temple Run. And of course, picking someone up off waivers and having him turn into an every-night beast.
Owners that have been stashing Brook Lopez (foot surgery) can taste a similar feeling. In competitive leagues and/or those with an IL spot, Lopez has almost certainly been on a roster all or most of the season. So getting him back on the court will be akin to adding an elite fantasy center.
On Thursday, Lopez was out of his walking boot dressed for Nets practice. He was doing shooting drills and even some light rebounding. His arms reportedly "look muscular" thanks to the weightlifting he did following surgery. And most importantly, the Nets say he is still on track with that 6-8 week timetable. That means Lopez is expected back in 2-4 weeks.
Lopez will be eased in initially, but let’s not forget how special of a talent this guy is. The true 7-footer is a career 50.4 percent shooter from the field and 80.1 percent shooter from the line. Those are the difference-making numbers. And over the final 25 games of last season, he averaged 22.7 points, 6.4 rebounds and 1.4 blocks. He had never missed a game in his NBA career before this season.
If Lopez returns in three weeks, he’ll play in roughly 35 games. That’s a nice, meaty portion of the season to chew on.
by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 11:16 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
that was writter by Adam Levitan of...
…rotoworld.
by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
someone believes!
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Jan 20, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
knicks are trash there 2.5 games ahead of us
they gave tyson a max contract haha amare has a guaranteed contract with his horrible knees haha there schedule was ten times easier then ares we haven’t had are second best player all year and we haven’t even got dwight yet knicks blow
More MarShon Please
And Amare's back now
And his eye before that. Dude is Frankenstein’s monster.
Have you watched him lately? I’ve only seen bits and pieces of Knicks games, but he seems much less slower and having less impact on the game.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 20, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
They are realizing they need more scoring, since Melo and Stat are starting to become a nighty struggle to put up points.
by JimmyLips on Jan 20, 2012 12:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I wonder how much of Amare's playing is due to injury
v.s. lack of chemistry with Melo and the fact that it is no longer his team. Is this demotivating him?
I don't know if it's demotivating him
but I do think that team lacks chemistry. I was telling someone yesterday, it’s like having a Ferrari engine, a Lamborghini steering system and a Porsche body. They’re all really nice, but they just don’t work together.
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by Taylor Made on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's hard to play with melo. His type of game stops ball movement...
Dantoni’s system thrives on ball movement. Amare thrives on ball movement. That was a bad combination to put together…
They are trash...
They do not know how to build a team. They just threw money at 2 stars and overpayed a player who had a decent year on a great team
That's just it
They didn’t built the team properly given D’Antoni’s system. Guys like Chandler need an impact PG. Losing Billups for Chandler looks like a mistake. They better hope Baron Davis can help change this team.
by ZR on Jan 20, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I hate that there is 2 more months of this dwight drama
by aug93 on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
its funny
to think that for some net fans that marshon brooks is a deal breaker.. com’on, the nets are gonna acquire the best big man of the decade.. be realistic, only dwill is untradeable.
by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I think it's more
the fact that we had an offer that Otis was ready to accept without Brooks in it, so why should we throw him in now?
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by Taylor Made on Jan 20, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
if you are otis
why in the hell would you not request for marshon.. look at the melo deal, it is widely known that melo wanted to be a knicks, but the knicks never have the leverage, they still completely gut their roster.. and howard is way better than melo.
by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 11:55 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
yeah, but Dolan's a moron
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Yeah.. but if you give away everything to get him, what's the point of having him?
Even dwight knows that him and dwill will not be enough
dwill+dwight then let hump go(for 10m you can add a borderline allstar at FA) and there’s the MLE and vet min. imagine the nets sign kg+ray=10m then you have mle to add a sf.. there’s so many eays to improve the roster, but if you have a chance to get the most dominating big man of th decade, youll do whatever it takes
by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 12:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
We would be a horrible defensive team even with dwight...
Teams are getting better. Teams are becoming deeper and younger. With the scenario you just posed, we would have no bench, 2 aging stars in the starting lineup, and a point guard who cannot hold jeff teague. Dwight would foul out with all of the driving players coming at him.
We cannot give up too much for him…
wtf
horrible defensive team howard+kg(he maybe old but he’s still an above average def), ray allen(one of the underated defenders), bench(morrow,farmar,james+veterans)
by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 12:22 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Have you seen kg play this year? kg ain't kg anymore...
And as far as the bench, you want morrow (not defense), james (erratic), farmar (do i need to say anything) as your bench? That team would not win. And I thought this whole movement was about winning championships…
what do you want with the bench?? all stars?? com’on gotta be kidding.. morrow,farmar and james are defenitely good role players.. tell me what frontline will be better defensively than kg+howard?? youre a joke man
by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 12:37 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Why would the Magic trade him this season?
Team is playing very well. Who knows? Maybe they can make a run for it all in this wacky season.
This is my only hope
Come trade deadline and Magic is in top 3 of the standing. Magic FO or ownership would not want to disrupt a potentially championship winning season. I also believe Magic does not have enough to go all the way so DH12 is leaving no matter what.
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Not only that
how about making some Playoff $$$ too for the last time in while.
All they have to do is look at what the Marlins did. Win a championship and the Break up the team.
They have said countless times
they will not let this turn into another Shaq situation where Dwight leaves and they get nothing.
They have also said, that if Dwight doesn’t change his mind, they will trade him by the deadline.
Things change
A very good record, say Top 3 in the East by the trade deadline, could tempt them to risk it, thinking Dwight is content and they can still convince him to stay. That’s how teams get Lebron’d.
It depends on their owner...
At his age, if they show a hint that they can compete, he would not ok a trade during the year…
Their owner already gave the OK to trade him before the deadline
if his trade request wasn’t rescinded.
I only hope then that he changes his mind...
Getting Dwight in free agency is a loooong shot. But I think trading for him in the summer would make the magic more desperate to lose him for nothing. Therefore, they would accept a lesser offer from us…
Life of a Net fan after March 15??
Would you guys prefer Magic tradeDH12 to a team before march 15 or just let him walk for free? My brain says that if they let him wak for free its good for us. But then so many scenarios and rumours are going to fly that might not be good for my heart…
i think i hope they trade him before march 15 else its going to be a LONG summer…We might see few heart attacks on NetsDail…lol
Can anyone explain to me what caused the Mayo deal to fall through?
I’m not exactly the world’s biggest Mayo fan (I only like it mixed with something, like Lobster Salad) but I want to know why the Nets didn’t pull the trigger on this deal when they supposedly had it on the table.
It was a long shot anyway. Farmar and a pick or Morrow without a pick? Memphis could get better offers for Mayo at the trade deadline.
For our part, Marshon seems to have cemented his role as starting SG, not off the bench SG or undersized starting SF, so we’re no longer inclined to raise our rather low bid for Mayo. Which is alright now.
BUT
Thats going to open the rumours box and a long summer. Let’s just give BLopez, Brooks n call it a day. Ihate to include Brooks but that might be the reason Magic make the trade. At this point Brooks looks like a good player with a potential of becomgin a great one.
Orlando is going to want more than lopez and brooks. They are going to want a few draft picks as well...
That’s too much
Want and Get are 2 different things
They arent getting offered what they want. I think they dont trade him anywhere
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Thats too much
A package of B Lopez, Brooks and our first round pick (1-5) MIGHT be better than DH12 alone. But the problem is if we dont get DH12 Dwill wont stay. What a mess. I hate Nets FO. WHYin the world we didnt follow OKC model…why Miami…WHYYY
LOL Otis
Magic GM Otis Smith: Dwight “didn’t directly throw Jameer under the bus,” but “indirectly” did, wanting to play with DWilliams or CPaul
he lacks a filter of when to say things to the media and when to keep them in house.
by JimmyLips on Jan 20, 2012 12:36 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Thank God
we traded this guy
Been hearing reliable rumblings since trip to Reno for D-League Showcase that Jazz have made it known Devin Harris is available via trade
https://twitter.com/#!/ESPNSteinLine/status/160276449801158656
How bout we send them Farmar
They move Harris somewhere that has an extra SF we could use
Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Or if they trade Harris, maybe they'd have some interest in Farmar
even if they only give up an expiring contract like CJ Miles — they also have a glut of wings
Harris seems like he's going to become an Andre Miller type
Can step in and play for any team but won’t be a game changer. Will bounce around from team to team and never stick. It’s a shame because he’s a good guy and a hard worker.
by ZR on Jan 20, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
not even CLOSE to Andre Miller.
I loved Harris and I still root for him to succeed, but fact is, once he stopped using his quickness, he was done. He doesn’t have the veteran basketball mind the Andre does, nor the toughness, nor the flat out cajones. he’s clearly lost his swagger, as evidenced by that terrible, terrible air ball last night. meanwhile Andre Miller is lighting up his former team for 28 points.
by sheepareevil on Jan 20, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see it happening
Seriously, look at the approach the Lakers have taken recently. They hired Mike Brown without consulting Kobe. They traded Lamar Kardashian whiteout consulting Kobe. Why would the younger Buss trade Bynum, who is a cheaper version of Dwight Howard, for the real thing? He said he wasn’t moving Bynum, and the Lakers aren’t giving ip both Bynum and Gasol for Dwight.
by IrishPride187 on Jan 21, 2012 12:53 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
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