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Bynum for Howard? Nothing New

Mike Bresnahan and Broderick Turner of the Los Angeles Times report that the Lakers and Magic have not been engaged in trade talks for Dwight Howard in "a while" and that Howard may have less interest, not more, after a lengthy conversation with Kobe Bryant that made the Magic center realize it's still Kobe's team.

"Kobe Bryant has had at least one in-depth phone conversation with Howard recently, even discussing how Howard might fit in with the Lakers' scheme," the two report. "One person with knowledge of the conversation said Howard came away feeling as if he wouldn't be the Lakers' top option, for obvious reasons. It's Bryant's team."

No one is saying talks are dead, but as Bresnahan and Turner write, Bynum continues to play well and he's two years younger than Howard. Plus, he's theirs.

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Add to this, tweets from Kyler and Coon

That the Magic aren’t interested in Bynum (yeah right) and that its “Nets and everyone else” in the chase for Dwight… we seem to be pretty well set.

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

Kyler doesnt know a thing

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 20, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t forget Tal.

by ShawnG on Jan 20, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Tal has no sources

Unless you want to talk about people with inside knowledge of building permits.

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Lol ;). Him and Issac.

by ShawnG on Jan 20, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Steve Kyler is below StevieboyNets and SlyFox, but ahead of JRon and Jerry25

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 20, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Where is ataxo when you need him?

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

he sleeps with the fishes

I was in Jersey City yesterday, Liberty State Park, taking pictures because you never know.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 20, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

They've got a statue over there I hear

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL @jerry25

but seriously, you can substitute Ric Bucher.

It was Bucher who publicly (on ESPN) called for Howard to entertain Nets as his best option (and Howard seems to be listening).

by jerry25 on Jan 20, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Dwight Howard is taking RIC BUCHER’S advice.

Smh.

by NetsKiNG on Jan 20, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Hack

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

no Adrian Woj?

I find him to be credible. If you don’t, i’d love to hear your reasoning.

by SamsHops on Jan 20, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Coon also said last week the Nets seem to be the favorites to get Dwight

and that they’re confident they’ll make a deal after the all star.

by Andres B on Jan 20, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

As I've mentioned

I think Orlando is using Bynum as leverage against the Nets.

They likely aren’t (and shouldn’t) be interested in Bynum for a couple of reasons:

1) Bynum is inarguably better than Lopez, but Lopez is very good and though he finally suffered the first injury of his career, Bynum’s injury history is FAR SCARIER especially if you compare it to the data on basically all big men in the history of the NBA.

Bill Simmons did just that, analyzing the careers of all the notable bigs who’ve played in the last 35 years by how many games they played and how many games they missed. The list included Dwight Howard, Karl Malone, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Kevin McHale, Charles Barkley, Dikembe Mutombo… etc you get the idea.

Here’s what he found:

What jumps out? First, the durable guys remained durable throughout their careers, with just one exception: McHale, who ruined the second half of his career by bravely (and some would say foolishly) playing on a broken foot in the 1987 playoffs. Second, anyone who missed more than 80 games and couldn’t play in 90 percent of the games in at least four of their first six seasons went on to have injury-plagued careers. And third, if you can’t stay on the court at your youngest/healthiest/freshest/most energetic, it’s a pretty safe bet that things won’t change as you get older.

It’s straight DNA: Some dudes are structurally built for 82-game NBA seasons, others aren’t. So if you make the argument “If Bynum can stay healthy, he’s a franchise center,” just make sure you also mention that we have 35 years of evidence that there’s a tipping point when “If he can stay healthy …” becomes “… he’s not going to stay healthy.” We’re there with Andrew Bynum. He’s not going to stay healthy. If I were the Lakers, I would trade him right now.

(Actually, what am I saying? They should definitely keep him! The guy is built like solid oak!)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/110217

Are you really trading your franchise player for one of the least durable bigs in recent memory not named Greg Oden? And nothing else? What else are you going to get? Bad draft picks? No cap relief? Lord knows they’re not getting Gasol with him.

2) Plus, Bynum expires after next year. What if he doesn’t want to re-up either? Brook is a near guarantee from a health perspective, and Brook is a LOCK from a location perspective. He’d be in heaven in Orlando while probably costing less.

by Anthony Perez on Jan 20, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

"Bynum is inarguably better than Lopez."

False.

"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King

by shea23 on Jan 20, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Bro, when healthy

He can get his buckets and DEVOUR rebounds.

He’s better.

by Anthony Perez on Jan 20, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Play chicken DH!

You want to come here in FA. You, Deron, Brooks, Lopez, and a Top 5 pick.

by ShawnG on Jan 20, 2012 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

DH now is Devin Harris, who is reportedly on the trade block.

Knicks would love him write now (or after Baron Davis fails).

Lakers TPE isn’t big enough to land DH (Devin Harris).

by jerry25 on Jan 20, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

The confusion over interest in Bynum by ORL may stem from two factions in ORL:

The GM Otis and the 85 year owner (who wants to win NOW) who apparently wasn’t away of Bynum’s knee issues.
Once the owner became aware of Bynum’s health concerns, there was NO WAY a straight deal was an option. Must include Gasol. Yet if Howard doesn’t want to go to LA, then there is no way LAL takes that risk of his resigning – even for just Bynum.

by jerry25 on Jan 20, 2012 8:58 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Not that he has 1st hand knowledge....

but Ric Bucher wrote that it would take multiple (top) pieces to land Howard, and no way ORL would take a risk on just Bynum.

Bucher (who first revealed Dallas was on Howard’s list) still maintains Nets, LAL and Dallas (before Howard lost some interest in LAL). Dallas of course has nothing to trade for Howard, putting Nets in driver’s seat if Lopez comes back healthy.

by jerry25 on Jan 20, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

So what?

what Smith says now and what he may HAVE to DO on March 15 could be wholly different.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 20, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Still, it is Brook Lopez' health which is what everyone should watch out for.

Even if Bynum stays healthy, Nets can offer a better package (esp. if Howard won’t promise LAL) by including MarShon and use 4 1st round picks to get another top player. That would be THREE desirable players, not to mention the possibility of The Hump (if he agrees).

by jerry25 on Jan 20, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Boo

How can the Lakers offer only Bynum and we have to offer Lopez, Brooks, and four first rounders? I’m not sure even Howard is worth that. Sorry

WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap

by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

haha i want dude is smoking

i wouldnt even include our top draft pic this year…

by 1sparks1 on Jan 20, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I would include our first rounder

in a heartbeat. How about Lopez, OJ Mayo, Jordan Farmar, the Rockets pick + 2 Nets first rounders for Howard and some cap relief?

WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap

by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

you can't trade players you don't have

"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock

Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards

by Taylor Made on Jan 20, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

well yes

but I would assume if it were a 3 team deal he would have said so and mentioned who Memphis would be getting.

"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock

Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards

by Taylor Made on Jan 20, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

true

in my case, Lopez, Okur, Mayo to Orlando maybe cash and a pick

Farmar or Morrow and picks to Memphis

Dwight to NJ

by domininaldo1981 on Jan 20, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

That's exactly it

Same deal with Melo. The second it gets closer to reality, the more nervous Orlando management will get. Either they run the risk of losing Howard for nothing or they trade him and get a decent return. Their choice.

by ZR on Jan 20, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

Until stevieboynets says something, it’s all rumors.

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

As much as I want Howard here to turn the Nets into an instant title contender, is he going to suddenly decide the team is his? Is he going to demand we sign Gilbert Arenas and other terrible players who won’t show him up?

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:02 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Brooks for Arenas

good deal!!

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 20, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think he’d consider it his team even though he probably would be the number 1 option. I think he would share the ranks w/ DWill, the person who it all started with.

by njnets2010 on Jan 20, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

It's going to be our Stockton and Malone, almost equal but

Malone was still the big guy, Stockton just right behind him. It’s going to be 1-2 with Howard and DWill.

by stenpoint on Jan 20, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't see how the Magic are going to let him walk

Do they take Bynum with the knee problem or Lopez with the foot problem? HMMM

"Losing is the same as winning, only with fewer points." - Keith Van Horn (90s Nike commercial)

by macgyver893 on Jan 20, 2012 9:06 AM EST reply actions  

Does one issue with a foot constitute a problem, like Bynum's knees are a problem?

I’d say Lopez is 2-3 more foot injuries, freak incidents or not, away from it being a nagging problem.

by Coach Joe on Jan 20, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Bynum's knee issues could be considered freak accidents

And despite them, hasn’t slowed his game thus far. Of course it’s very early in the season… he never plays a full season.

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

but

bynum is the one who’s healthy now.. and lopez is the one who has to prove that his healthy and can return to form, he has less than 2 months to prove it..

by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 9:26 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Nets players coming off of foot surgery in the last 5 seasons...

Bobby Simmons
Travis Outlaw
Damion James

Let’s hope Brook comes back better than any of them, but none of them ever got back to where they were before the surgery.

by JohnFromLongIsland on Jan 20, 2012 9:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

From 2004-2006 Bobby Simmons was ballin’ out of control!

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

All were serviceable...

Simmons enough to be the league’s most improved one year, and Outlaw enough to be a fan favorite in Portland and enough to earn a ridiculous contract with us. We see how both ended up afterwards though. Legs like cement in both cases.

by JohnFromLongIsland on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Wait, MarShon Brooks called Dwight to tell him he wants to play with him??

This kid…

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Petro probably isn't even allowed to wear

A Jersey underneath his warm ups anymore….Just in case

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jan 20, 2012 9:32 AM EST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

lol

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Anybody realize that Petro

has been half serviceable this year?

WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap

by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, he has been of some help in some games.

The guy was working hard in the off-season, form what we read here.

by bkfire on Jan 20, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't hate him as much as I used to

I accept him for what he is. I’d rather he didn’t play, but if he comes in for 10 minutes and grabs a few rebounds, maybe hits the open J, I can’t be mad. I"ve now reserved all my hate for Farmar

by sheepareevil on Jan 20, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

That's my boy the Chef

Let him Cook!!

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jan 20, 2012 9:29 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

MarShon Manhunter has his sights set on Da-wight!

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

-1 Dwight is Superman because everyone knows who Superman is

Who is the Martian Manhunter? he is like the 7th string DC character

Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty harsh, I’m just joking around

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Why dont you just photoshop Brooks's face on this guy from 300

He wasnt a main character but he is still a Spartan.

Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

The snitch?

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

He is about as recognizable as this

His head is shaped like a Moiso

Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

that's Shelden Williams

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 20, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

wow

this

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Jan 20, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

OMG

"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal

by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

Official member of the I Love You Jerry25 Club

by phatman00 on Jan 20, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny the Marshon Clippers highlights

I posted in the other thread at the end of the game while D-will and CP3 were talking, CP3 starts showing the Chef some love.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jan 20, 2012 9:29 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

“Please, Dwight, get me out of here.. I want to play with you in Orlando!!”

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

-_____________-
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/42158
Jonathan (NYC)

Melo for D-Will?
John Hollinger (12:56 PM)

Makes a ton of sense for Jersey. Makes some sense for New York. Keep in mind that this could be done as an extend-and-trade after the season as well. I would expect the Knicks to ask for a sweetener, given that they’re basically saving the Nets from Armageddon and that Melo is having a better year than Williams.

by Andres B on Jan 20, 2012 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

i've seen this all over the web

its pretty much idiocy

and good luck if D-Will wants to play with Amare’s broken down ass.

by MrDollarBills on Jan 20, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Don't want Melo, he had his chance. Let the Knicks be what they want to be -

just a playoff team who won’t go very far. Melo would just hinder the development of Marshon.

by bkfire on Jan 20, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I would rather loose dwill for nothing than giving him to the knicks.

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Jan 20, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I would say that Melo is MUCH better than nothing

I would do that in a second. Not sure the knicks would do it. Then we go after Felton and:

Felton
Brooks
Mello
Davis
Brook

by tategeorge on Jan 20, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I think OKC offering Westbrook the Max puts that Trade speculation to end.

Read the Woj article from yesterday. They aren’t trading him. Weren’t interested in CP3 and won’t be interested in Williams.

by tategeorge on Jan 20, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

DWill has more trade value than CP3. CP3 is injured right now.

The extension makes it MORE likely Nets would agree to trade for him at deadline – but only if DWill asked for a trade.

If Westbrook isn’t great during the next 2 months, I could see OKC preferring DWill.

by jerry25 on Jan 20, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The Knicks plan is DWill-Howard-Amare

Melo for DWill now
then DWill recruits Howard to NY, which creates cap space by dumping Chandler (on a team like the Warriors which wanted him before). It would work cap-wise next year actually.

DWill-Howard-Amare — that is the Knicks’ evil plan.

by stenpoint on Jan 20, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

cuz Melo needs to be "the guy" while the team is filled with good role players

like the Dallas BluePrint. But Knicks fell in love with the idea of having two super stars disregarding whether they can build chemistry.

by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

dunno why this got posted twice...

…and it’s missing the body of the message.

by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

If only this were NBA2K12

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

No

only slightly overrated.

WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap

by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know how to make sure anyone can get this article, as it was on insider at ESPN over a year ago, but look up Tom Haberstroh’s “Carmelo Anthony is not an Elite Player”

You don’t trade an entire team + cap space for a good player, you trade that for an elite player. Carmelo is not elite, and is therefore horribly overrated. The end.

by SadNetsFan on Jan 20, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

try comparing last five games

Nets 2-3 with D-Will, 20.8/9.6 and shooting 42.8% overall and 51.7% from three.

Knicks 1-4 with Melo 21.5/7.8, shooting 34.5% overall, 26.7% from deep. (out one game)

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 20, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Magic lose leverage every day

- havent discussed trade in weeks with LA
- Lopez coming back soon
- Howard hasnt recinded trade request like they had hoped

BK should tell them that he is unwilling to take back Hedo and that Starshon is untouchable. At this point it seems we are only bidding against ourselves. We negotiated in good faith earlier this season only to have Orlando pull out of the agreed upon trade in the final hour. It’s time to punish them for that disrespect.

Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 9:30 AM EST reply actions  

Make the trade now and we’ll even throw in the boot free of charge!

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm starting to agree with you on this

It’s now between us and whoever is willing to rent Dwight for half a season. Why should we pay a crazy price when we have the ability to sign him outright in the offseason. Let’s learn from the Melo fiasco

Critical Success!

by Ammar on Jan 20, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but the Knicks were a good team before Melo

They traded away all their good players for him. The Nets are NOT a good team.

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

What’s to say that the Nets don’t become a ‘good’ team when Lopez comes back?

Not that I think they will, but what’s to say? ;)

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree, although I'm not sure we would be deserving of it

What do you think our actual record would be?

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d guess 6 wins instead of 4

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd say 7-8

WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap

by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

we'd have the same problems if Brook never went down in terms of...

…team chemistry.

We could have 2 more wins. But the team would’ve still had a hard time finding it’s footing like every other team in the league. And we’d probably be ripping Lopez for no reason and wondering why he and DWill can’t get on the same page.

The team is starting to get an offensive identity. Brook sees it, and since Avery will slowly work him into the flow of the offense…his injury may have worked to the Nets benefit afterall cuz Brook will have to find his niche on this offense(scoring inside of course) but being that he’ll slowly make his way into form, this process could go smoothly.

by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I like this analysis a lot. +1

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I think if Brook doesn't go down

We don’t see the development of Brooks that we are.

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yup

and seeing how Brooks finds Hump in the paint now; only makes sense that he’ll find Lopez too. Nets can be a dark horse w/o a dwight trade.

by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

If the East remains this bad, who knows?

But we’re going to have to scrap together a couple of impressive wins + beat the bad teams in order to have a shot at it.

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed...

…we just won’t be beating any real good teams til Brook gets back. The team has to say within 5 to 8 games of .500 before Lopez is here and playing. IF nets fall to 10 games below or more, it’ll ruin their confidence and the season. Yeah they could rebound from being that bad but it just wouldn’t be good. lol.

by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Why?

We still need perimeter ball handlers and defenders. Brooks was going to this burn no matter what.

WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap

by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait, we're not a good team?

We just beat the warriors at home by 7.

by tategeorge on Jan 20, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

We also beat the Raptors by 13.

This is a team of shooters that if left open can hit some shots. Good defenses absolutely kill us.

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, sorry to double-comment, but the Warriors were playing their 4th game in 5 nights and David Lee has always been a terrible post defender.

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

The Nets are NOT as terrible as they have looked so far

and we are only 2.5 games out for the 8th seed!

WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap

by BrooklynNets on Jan 20, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Because when you have a chance to get him, you do it

It guarantees Deron stays and guarantees good basketball going into Brooklyn. The future is now.

by ZR on Jan 20, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Nets have the stronger assets at this point...

Brook (corss fingers he is healthy), Brooks (getting national attention and gets better every game), top pick in amazing draft, hopefully another #1 pick from Houston and cap space.

Brook, Brooks, lottery pick, Houston pick, cap space. I think we are the favorite both at the trade deadline and in FA. Question is how much we give up and when.

Would like to keep Hump as he and Dwight would be a monster front court. Morrow would be good enough to start if we trade Brooks. SF would be an issue but hopefully MLE or Bogs would do.

I have faith in Billy whereas I had none in Rod.

by rundmc00 on Jan 20, 2012 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

DH12 needs a 4 that can

stretch the floor, not Hump type player who duplicates what DH12 does.

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by NDTony on Jan 20, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't know about that

Griffin and Jordan basically duplicate each other’s games and CP3 makes those two look like a high flying act anyway.

by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Wut
Hump type player who duplicates what DH12 does

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

So what should we be rooting in the ORL/LAL game...

….for D12 to totally dominate Bynum? Or for Bynum get his stats against D12?

by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 9:44 AM EST reply actions  

lol...

…it prolly won’t matter either way. IF Orlando wins and D12 showcases himself to the tune of a 30 rebound game…then that could be real damaging to the Nets efforts in these trade talks.

by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Each Orlando win tempts their ownership to keep Dwight
A bad or just average Bynum game always good
Kobe chucking away shows Dwight whose team it is and who’s going to be the sidekick rebounding him the ball

by stenpoint on Jan 20, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Stop.

Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352

by J-Kay on Jan 20, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

HAHA let him Cook!!!!

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jan 20, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

trade scenario

if howard is traded to lakers.. i think the nets should trade dwill+bad contracts like petro for curry,udoh,1strd(gsw are willing to take a rental for cp3 cant see why not with dwill).. now nets will have 3 lottery picks. with curry/brook/lopez core.. not a bad idea i believe.. :)

by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 9:53 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

I like curry

but he can’t stay healthy

by Huey88 on Jan 20, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Andddddddd here I am to crush your dreams.

We gave Utah the Warrior’s 2012 1st rounder for D-Will. DOH!!!

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

not a big deal.. still have 2 2012 pick with the warriors 2013 or 2014 pick..

by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 9:58 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

i keep going with the trade DWill idea if Dwight is traded to Lakers...

…but I also keep thinking where will DWill find a situation where he has backcourt mate like MarShon; a frontcourt of Lopez/Hump which is better than people give it credit for and the assets to build around all this in the short and long term? Then add to that the extra 30 mill he makes by staying and the input he gets on personnel moves.

by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I almost want to say...

…go and buy your DWill Jerseys and have no fear of it being a waste of money.

by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

If the Nets are gonna have to trade DWill here's one idea that could work

Deron for Tony Parker and Kawhi Leonard. Dwill would not be upset at going to San Antonio, because it’s in Texas and they have good players, a good coach, and a good front office. Tony Parker has said before that he has interest in New York, and Leonard has serious Gerald Wallace potential.

by muwu on Jan 20, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

As for wacky reporting

Saw AI’s byline in Newsday this morning for the first time…it was reported a few days ago, but seeing it was as strange as I thought it would be.

Such a waste of talent being shackled as the Knicks beat for the Dolan’s mouthpiece.

by brother_rat on Jan 20, 2012 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

Sadly, I unfollowed him

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

No doubt it's a professional step up in many ways

But it’s very sad nonetheless. On a related note, I seriously wonder if Newsday will spring for a Nets beat once the team actually moves to Brooklyn.

by brother_rat on Jan 20, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

NI has been asking that for a year now

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Nets believe it will happen

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 20, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I do, too

The question is whether it will be someone of substance. I predict either some kid right out of college with few credentials, or dredging up Bernie Beglane.

by brother_rat on Jan 20, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I seriously hope that otis smith is crazy enough to keep dwight after the trade deadline a trio of d12, swag, and dwill would be awesome

by antdatruth08 on Jan 20, 2012 10:03 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

DWill,D12,Brooks and Lopez

IMO would be a #1 seed in the whole league. If not the 1st year then the year after

by nwkiddnj on Jan 20, 2012 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

to be honest

i like thinking about a frontline of hump & dwight. if we got dwight i would flip lopez for a 3. there’s no way on earth lopez can play the 4

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Jan 20, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

the lopez fanatics here are holding onto the impossible dream

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Jan 20, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Dirk

plays the 4 and it works just fine. Even if Blo’s player goes around him, D12 will be there…not a problem.

If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.

by BrooNets on Jan 20, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Just to quote Dwight from his twitter, he sent a tweet to some fan
@danteparman love how everything y’all see y’all believe. If it ain’t from the horse don’t believe it. But God bless u

by GameTime on Jan 20, 2012 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

That came out a few days ago, correct? Believe that was the day the Clippers rumors started up

Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352

by J-Kay on Jan 20, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

yup

it was in direct response to someone asking him about the Clippers (i think on Facebook)

by Dep on Jan 20, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Another weak performance by Dirk last night

12 pts, 5-12 fg and 5 rebs in 37 minutes.

for the season, he is averaging
17.5 ppg (his lowest scoring avg in his career since his sophomore season)
.456 fg (his lowest fg % since his rookie season). —> pretty bad for a 7 footer
5.4 rpg (his lowest rebounding avg since his rookie season) —> horrible for a 7 footer… Brook averaged 6rpg and the media was killing him (rightfully so).

And this is the guy Deron is supposed to give up on money to play with? He still is a good player, but he is not a superstar anymore and he isn’t getting any better.

Even if we don’t land Dwight, we offer Deron the best scenario with a young core. Going to Dallas to play with a 34 yr old Dirk who is already showing huge sign of slowing down isn’t gonna cut it either.

The grass isn’t always greener on the other side.

by Andres B on Jan 20, 2012 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

It'll be greener once he gets to Texas

Which I have little doubt is his plan if we don’t get Dwight.

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Texas has beeen in a terrible drought for 2 yrs

Nothing green there

Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF

by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 20, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

anyone see the poll on realgm asking “Which center from the 2008 NBA Draft class will have the best career over the next five seasons?”

5500 votes and they have:
B. Lopez 22.2%
Hibbert 29.8%
McGee 10.9%
D. Jordan 29.2%
R. Lopez 1.2%
Asik 6.8%

Totally disagree w/ that.

by njnets2010 on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM EST reply actions  

same

d.jordan isn’t as good as everyone thinks, he doesn’t seem to have much of an offensive game besides dunking and overpowering everyone while Brook has so many post moves and a sweet jump hook

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by Keysta101 on Jan 20, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

correction: Jordan offensive game is zero, he just dunks and without oposition, he doesn't overpower anyone, unless he's alone he can't make a basket...

He doesn’t have a single post move, can’t shoot the ball, and looks like Shaq shooting free throws, but he does have great defensive potential.

2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!

by Heavinsent on Jan 20, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

and he is better than brook?

or are we just being biased

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by Keysta101 on Jan 20, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

yea true

well lopez plays decent defense (not even close to dwight), but he is such an offensive machine that he when he is in the post its over for the defender

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by Keysta101 on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Lopez a decent defender?

No he’s a really bad defender, the only thing he does defensively is blocking some shots, but in one on one defense he’s trash

2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!

by Heavinsent on Jan 20, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

But if we build the SuperTeam he won't look so bad on defense for various reasons:

- Dwight will cover his back;
- Sometimes we can clearly see that he “let’s” the opponent score, because he’s afraid of getting in foul trouble, and he and everyone knows, we need him on the floor to carry the load offensively;
- Different players create different dynamics, and if all the players around Lopez play defense, he will play some too.

2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!

by Heavinsent on Jan 20, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

No, I truly believe Brook the best of the 3.

Lopez has the best post moves of a pure Center in the entire league.

2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!

by Heavinsent on Jan 20, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, jordan is raw in offensive abilities, but he is much much better defensively than lopez. tyson chandler doesnt have offensive moves but he dominates the defensive side that’s why he is so attractive..

by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

yea i know

and brook is so underrated because he plays for the Nets so no one take him seriously..its a shame

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by Keysta101 on Jan 20, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

No one takes him seriously because he rebounded like Andrea Bargnani last year

People like to pass it off always as “he plays for the Nets”, but Kevin Love has always been adored and he’s in Minnesota.

It’s about how good you are, period.

by muwu on Jan 20, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

he is very good though

you can’t deny that and even if he didn’t rebound well he changes this whole team, kevin loves doesn’t do that he put up amazing numbers last year BUT HIS TEAM KEPT LOSING, when brook puts up great numbers the nets usually win or at least extremely competitive, if love went down today everytime the twolves lost a game they would say “well kevin love is out so…” but when the nets lose its just because we suck like c’mon man!

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by Keysta101 on Jan 20, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

high flyers get all the attention
finesse players dont

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Jan 20, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

hibbert plays in a much smaller market.. its just that gm’s prefer athleticism and defense over offense . it just shows that lopez is not as attractive as what 90% of net fans says..

by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 11:11 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions   1 recs

Hibbert is the most balanced of the 3 in offensive and defensive terms.

Lopez is the best in offense and Jordan the better defender.

But ultimately as best player Lopez will prove to be the better one.

2012 Lineup: D-Will - Brooks - AK47 - Lopez - D12... Book it!

by Heavinsent on Jan 20, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a feeling BK and Otis are going to agree to an offer similar to the Lopez/Wallace deal

Portland has (and I think wants to transition to) Batum.

The Lakers are really the only team that can drive the price up – they definitely have the incentive to at least bluff and create a bidding war, but how will BK react?

Otis will push for Marshon no doubt, that’s where I’m a bit worried. BK needs to take him off the table.

There’s too much risk of getting nothing for D12 – the Magic are playing well but they always play well and lose in the playoffs. Something will go down before the deadline.

by Dolphins_Nets on Jan 20, 2012 10:27 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

One thing about Wallace and Portland

Wallace is up for a new contract, so they might not want to pay him long term, especially since by the end of the contract he’ll be around 34 and his game is based on athleticism. He’s also not that comfortable playing the 4, which makes it problematic since they have Batum too. Also, Batum has stated publicly that playing time will be the major factor in determining where he wants to go.

So I think there’s a decent chance that they do let go of Wallace, but it might take a bit more than just draft picks now. Unless…. they get the Nets’ 2012 pick instead of Orlando

by muwu on Jan 20, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree

I would go as far as to say Portland is looking to deal Wallace.

Rich Cho brought Wallace in (great move), but he’s gone now

by Dolphins_Nets on Jan 20, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

if the lakers are going to create a bidding war

It will be like what we did to the knicks last year with melo. we will give up a lot but we will have too.

by netsfan1591 on Jan 20, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree

I would go as far as to say Portland is looking to deal Wallace.

Rich Cho brought Wallace in (great move), but he’s gone now

by Dolphins_Nets on Jan 20, 2012 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

Milwaukee reporter says on radio "every Bucks player is available"

And says Magic like Bogut over Bynum (and obviously over Lopez I’m assuming). Could be a 3 teamer sending Gasol to the Bucks and Bogut to the Magic. I’m assuming maybe the same deal with Lopez possibly?

Anyone down with this trade? Lottery pick goes to Milwaukee.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=76g433d

Listen to this at about 90%-95% of the way through:

http://wssp.radiotown.com/audio/The_Big_Show/011912BIGHR3.mp3

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

Headline should've really been that the Magic like Bogut, per this reporter

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't know if Bucks would trade away Bogut and Jennings for Brook and a top 10 pick

It’s not really a whole lot of a greater rebuilding move than just keeping Jennings and trading away Bogut/everything else alone

by muwu on Jan 20, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

i think

they might do that

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Jan 20, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Well he's saying everyone's available

Brook Lopez gets you the “next” Bogut, and you can dictate terms of his contract with him. Jennings is replaced by a lottery pick that they decide how to rebuild with. Might take a few more draft picks here and there, but I don’t think it’s an awful deal for all teams.

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

if I were the magic I would rather have lopez and the lotto pick than bogut and jennings.

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Jan 20, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

So would I

But I’m just going on what that “Bucks Insider” said about everyone being available on the Bucks, and the Magic liking Bogut a lot.

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Would the Bucks take Gasol?

Wouldn’t be smart. Brook is better if they are going to unload Bogut and Jennings. Get on the phone Billy.

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Jan 20, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually think it was Bynum going to Milwaukee

And they made the point that Bynum might not have any interest. Which of course means he can leave after next year.

Lopez would be locked up at whatever the market dictates, as a RFA.

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

oh i see

Let’s hope the Bucks won’t take the risk on Bynum not resigning. LA to Milwaukee is something I can’t see him being interested in on a personal and social level. The deal involving Brook and the Nets makes the most sense for the 3 teams involved. Good trade. Hope Billy, Otis and John Hammond think so too.

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by BEB on Jan 20, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess you didn't open the link or read the post?

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

c'mon man

read before you write

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by BEB on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure if Milwaukee goes for it

Can’t see them give up Bogut & Jennings, even for a lottery pick in return, but it’s a deal that might get Orlando listening. I can see them doing Lopez for Bogut though, if the Magic really do like Bogut better than Lopez. The Bucks would shake things up a bit with a younger, typically more durable center that will be making similar money to Bogut is now making.

Here’s a slightly different twist on a similar deal to debate (2 Simultaneous trade to make them work cap-wise):

Deal 1) Milwaukee also gets a $3.8mil trade exception.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6vrfnkq

Deal 2) Orlando also gets a $6.1mil trade exception.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=87exbrh

by TheNetsFan on Jan 20, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

except
that will be making similar money to Bogut is now making

except that B-Lo is an RFA after this year and someone’s going to offer him max money

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by Taylor Made on Jan 20, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Doubtful

What team with cap space would offer Lopez a max deal coming off of a stress fracture? That’s a bigger deal than guys like Nene, Horford, Noah & Bogut got. That’s extremely unlikely.

Even if he did get max money, his max starts at $14.5mil. Bogut makes $13.2mil next year. It’s not a huge difference even in the worst case scenario.

by TheNetsFan on Jan 20, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

may be possible

maybe throw in a 4th team that is rumored to be looking to give someone up. Replace jennings with Mayo

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7um6sov

by domininaldo1981 on Jan 20, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

One the topic at hand

Do we know if it matters to Dwight if he’s the top option or not? He hasn’t exactly sent out a lot of “I wanna be the man all the time” vibes, I think. SVG’s questioned his leadership out there because he always just wants to have fun

by muwu on Jan 20, 2012 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

It has to matter

Which is probably why LA is a distant third.

by ZR on Jan 20, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

lmao

I gottta rec this

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Jan 20, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Would this be possible

Houston gets
Beasley

Minny gets
Morrow

NJ gets
Thabeet

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=72v9bqu

This would help us clear out more cap space as Thabeet has a team option for next year and gives us an actual 7ft presence. Minny needs a SG and have a glut of SF/PF. Houston gets Beasley for nothing but increases their chances of making the playoffs. If Houston makes the playoffs then we get their ’12 pick

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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

Your missing the point

This trade isnt about Tabeet, it’s about getting the Rockets into the playoffs so we can get their draft pick.

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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Why we need Thabeet

and why we give away Morrow.

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by NDTony on Jan 20, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

seriously!

not another petro!

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by Andy. on Jan 20, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

i watched a lot of UConn games

Thabeet is trash…Blair used to dominate him even in college

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by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

He’s a D role player, nothing more. His hoped offensive skills never came around.

Pass. Especially for Morrow. Did D12 ever say that he wanted to play with Hasheem Thabeet? I think not.

by brother_rat on Jan 20, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

The Nets don't have enough NBA talent to be trading any of it away.

Especially talent that is reasonably priced.

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by TWilliAM on Jan 20, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Why would Houston want anything to do with Beasley?

They have a very smart front office and understand that Beasley is terrible.

Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!

by TWilliAM on Jan 20, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

They need another scorer

As good as Parson’s played, Beasley would be an instant upgrade.

The Nets desperatley need Houston to make the playoffs since that gives us an extra pick in this years draft.

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by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Scorer?

Beasley is terrible at basketball. They are not some idiot front office that looks at PPG.

Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!

by TWilliAM on Jan 20, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

And anyone that thinks Beasley is somebody Daryl Morey would be interested in

Is worth ignoring.

Also, for the record… DWill is an awful player and I loathe the Black Eyed Peas. It’s called irony.

Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!

by TWilliAM on Jan 20, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Thabeet is not worth giving up Morrow just for cap space

At least with the OJ Mayo rumors, he could actually step in and contribute something.

by ZR on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

after visiting other pages on sb nation

words can’t express how much i love this site, im crying

"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal

by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 10:56 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

marshon's game is syrup

slow, smooth and sweet.

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Jan 20, 2012 11:00 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

u know what...

…sometimes the ‘slow’ part worries me but then the kid still finds his shot. BUT THEN…during the GSW game, there was one play towards the end of the game where he put this move on Ellis and it was lightning quick — Brooks ended up missing the shot or getting fouled or something…but it came out of nowhere. I don’t think we’ve seen this kid’s whole repertoire yet and that’s what’s real scary.

by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

definitely not

its only been like 15 games and he’s playing like a Veteran. I think there’s a lot left to see

"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal

by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I was rewatching some highlights

And there was a time when he sprinted down the floor to catch a Deron pass, and was faster than everybody by a LONG shot.

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I’d call his game deliberate rather than slow

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

don't get me wrong, he's very fast and quick

but he plays in such control and his moves are so deliberate that it looks like he plays in slow motion. i think this is awesome because a lot of rookies let the defender control their movements and pacing. he always dictates the pace no matter who covers him. that’ s advanced, advanced stuff

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Jan 20, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe Johnson speed

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

and marshons pump/head fakes are close to

kobe levels right now

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Jan 20, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Veteran BBIQ

At least on offense.

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by eLonepb on Jan 20, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And I’m very impressed with the way he gets his hands into the passing lanes.

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

and i don't think

he’s against playing D mentally. phyiscally he’s got the tools.

pre-season i thought he might be nick youngesque. he’s already beyond that.

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yup

Nick Young is more Jamal Crawford.

Marshon is more…I shouldn’t say names yet and jinx it.

by Anthony Perez on Jan 20, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Similar to Paul Pierce's slow deliberate game.

Marshon has a different style.. but his pace is similar to Pierce. You have no idea how they create their space but they just do.

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by swampass on Jan 20, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I agree

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Jan 20, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Would the Wizards be willing to send their 2012 1st rounder, Blatche, Nick Young, Jordan Crawford (AKA all their dysfunctional players) to the Magic if they get Brook Lopez in return?

That might be more appealing to the Magic, getting the best shot at Anthony Davis. Though, as we all know, the team with the worst record still has a 75% chance of not getting the 1st overall pick. So maybe Washington will be willing to take the sure thing in Lopez

by muwu on Jan 20, 2012 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

Restrictions on Nick Young, so it comes down to

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7s9fn6s

Brook to Washington, Blatche, Crawford, 1st rounder to Orlando, Dwight, Duhon to Nets. The Nets’ first rounder can be thrown in there too either to Orlando or Washington

by muwu on Jan 20, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

JaVale would have to be included in that deal

and even then I doubt they’d do it.

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Jan 20, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Anthony Davis is an awfully tempting carrot to dangle, this guy is off the charts defensively

and if the Nets give Orlando their pick too, that’s two top 10 picks in a stacked draft to go a long with some flawed talent in Blatche, Crawford and Farmar

by muwu on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

My guess?

NO.

Blatche has another three years… true (awful contract). But Nick Young is going to be a free agent and Crawford only has one more guaranteed year before his option.

They aren’t going to give up a potential franchise player just to get Blatche off their books. There are other ways of doing that. Heck, they could choose to amnesty Blatche instead of Lewis (whose contract expires after next season).

A potential #1 is way too valuable. Won’t happen.

Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!

by TWilliAM on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Wizards would not do that

Their owner is also the owners of Washington Capitals. Look how they were built. They were terrible few years back and he built a contender through the draft. He would follow the same formula. They got lucky with Wall just like they got lucky with Ovechkin. They would never give away a shot at drafting Davis.

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by NDTony on Jan 20, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

He also said

Courtney Lee was a “STAR.” Not sure I want Shaq as my GM any time soon.

D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)

by corky_romano4life on Jan 20, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Offensive moves are nice and all

But production is what wins in the NBA.

And Bynum has never been as productive as Howard…. not even this year.

Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!

by TWilliAM on Jan 20, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

tough schedule this weekend, fellas.

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

1-2

only if Petro doesnt play

MarSwag Swaggity Swag

by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

who are we playing?

OKC=L unless we play like we did against the warriors and our defense steps up

ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE

by Keysta101 on Jan 20, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I say we go

3-0

Lets go Nets.

They should get another practice in before tomorrows game.

HERE WE GO!!!!!

by SIC One on Jan 20, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

OKC, CHA, and CHI

loss, win, loss

MarSwag Swaggity Swag

by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

nah

win win loss

2-1 OKC is soft!

ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE

by Keysta101 on Jan 20, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

pshhhh

you crazy!

MarSwag Swaggity Swag

by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Iannazzone

I know we have our own issues, and I do respect Al’s work when he was with the Nets…but isn’t nice for a change to see him reporting the negativity for that other team across the river?

by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

something nice written about Lopez?

This is FNBA related but still, i like that someone thinks highly of Brook:

There are a few things in life that make us feel really, really good. A piping hot steak off the grill. The love of a beautiful woman. A new high score in Temple Run. And of course, picking someone up off waivers and having him turn into an every-night beast.
Owners that have been stashing Brook Lopez (foot surgery) can taste a similar feeling. In competitive leagues and/or those with an IL spot, Lopez has almost certainly been on a roster all or most of the season. So getting him back on the court will be akin to adding an elite fantasy center.
On Thursday, Lopez was out of his walking boot dressed for Nets practice. He was doing shooting drills and even some light rebounding. His arms reportedly "look muscular" thanks to the weightlifting he did following surgery. And most importantly, the Nets say he is still on track with that 6-8 week timetable. That means Lopez is expected back in 2-4 weeks.
Lopez will be eased in initially, but let’s not forget how special of a talent this guy is. The true 7-footer is a career 50.4 percent shooter from the field and 80.1 percent shooter from the line. Those are the difference-making numbers. And over the final 25 games of last season, he averaged 22.7 points, 6.4 rebounds and 1.4 blocks. He had never missed a game in his NBA career before this season.
If Lopez returns in three weeks, he’ll play in roughly 35 games. That’s a nice, meaty portion of the season to chew on.

by Versifiervt on Jan 20, 2012 11:16 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

someone believes!

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Jan 20, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

knicks are trash there 2.5 games ahead of us

they gave tyson a max contract haha amare has a guaranteed contract with his horrible knees haha there schedule was ten times easier then ares we haven’t had are second best player all year and we haven’t even got dwight yet knicks blow

More MarShon Please

by kory raymond on Jan 20, 2012 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

And Amare's back now

And his eye before that. Dude is Frankenstein’s monster.

Have you watched him lately? I’ve only seen bits and pieces of Knicks games, but he seems much less slower and having less impact on the game.

by Anthony Perez on Jan 20, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

They are realizing they need more scoring, since Melo and Stat are starting to become a nighty struggle to put up points.

by JimmyLips on Jan 20, 2012 12:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I wonder how much of Amare's playing is due to injury

v.s. lack of chemistry with Melo and the fact that it is no longer his team. Is this demotivating him?

by tategeorge on Jan 20, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know if it's demotivating him

but I do think that team lacks chemistry. I was telling someone yesterday, it’s like having a Ferrari engine, a Lamborghini steering system and a Porsche body. They’re all really nice, but they just don’t work together.

"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock

Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards

by Taylor Made on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It's hard to play with melo. His type of game stops ball movement...

Dantoni’s system thrives on ball movement. Amare thrives on ball movement. That was a bad combination to put together…

by aug93 on Jan 20, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

They are trash...

They do not know how to build a team. They just threw money at 2 stars and overpayed a player who had a decent year on a great team

by aug93 on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

That's just it

They didn’t built the team properly given D’Antoni’s system. Guys like Chandler need an impact PG. Losing Billups for Chandler looks like a mistake. They better hope Baron Davis can help change this team.

by ZR on Jan 20, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

its funny

to think that for some net fans that marshon brooks is a deal breaker.. com’on, the nets are gonna acquire the best big man of the decade.. be realistic, only dwill is untradeable.

by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

I think it's more

the fact that we had an offer that Otis was ready to accept without Brooks in it, so why should we throw him in now?

"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock

Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards

by Taylor Made on Jan 20, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

if you are otis

why in the hell would you not request for marshon.. look at the melo deal, it is widely known that melo wanted to be a knicks, but the knicks never have the leverage, they still completely gut their roster.. and howard is way better than melo.

by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 11:55 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

yeah, but Dolan's a moron

"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock

Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards

by Taylor Made on Jan 20, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

dwill+dwight then let hump go(for 10m you can add a borderline allstar at FA) and there’s the MLE and vet min. imagine the nets sign kg+ray=10m then you have mle to add a sf.. there’s so many eays to improve the roster, but if you have a chance to get the most dominating big man of th decade, youll do whatever it takes

by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 12:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

We would be a horrible defensive team even with dwight...

Teams are getting better. Teams are becoming deeper and younger. With the scenario you just posed, we would have no bench, 2 aging stars in the starting lineup, and a point guard who cannot hold jeff teague. Dwight would foul out with all of the driving players coming at him.

We cannot give up too much for him…

by aug93 on Jan 20, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

wtf

horrible defensive team howard+kg(he maybe old but he’s still an above average def), ray allen(one of the underated defenders), bench(morrow,farmar,james+veterans)

by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 12:22 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Have you seen kg play this year? kg ain't kg anymore...

And as far as the bench, you want morrow (not defense), james (erratic), farmar (do i need to say anything) as your bench? That team would not win. And I thought this whole movement was about winning championships…

by aug93 on Jan 20, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

what do you want with the bench?? all stars?? com’on gotta be kidding.. morrow,farmar and james are defenitely good role players.. tell me what frontline will be better defensively than kg+howard?? youre a joke man

by letsgolal on Jan 20, 2012 12:37 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Why would the Magic trade him this season?

Team is playing very well. Who knows? Maybe they can make a run for it all in this wacky season.

by Kmart6nets on Jan 20, 2012 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

This is my only hope

Come trade deadline and Magic is in top 3 of the standing. Magic FO or ownership would not want to disrupt a potentially championship winning season. I also believe Magic does not have enough to go all the way so DH12 is leaving no matter what.

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by NDTony on Jan 20, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Not only that

how about making some Playoff $$$ too for the last time in while.

All they have to do is look at what the Marlins did. Win a championship and the Break up the team.

by SIC One on Jan 20, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

They have said countless times

they will not let this turn into another Shaq situation where Dwight leaves and they get nothing.

They have also said, that if Dwight doesn’t change his mind, they will trade him by the deadline.

by NetsKiNG on Jan 20, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Things change

A very good record, say Top 3 in the East by the trade deadline, could tempt them to risk it, thinking Dwight is content and they can still convince him to stay. That’s how teams get Lebron’d.

by stenpoint on Jan 20, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

It depends on their owner...

At his age, if they show a hint that they can compete, he would not ok a trade during the year…

by aug93 on Jan 20, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I only hope then that he changes his mind...

Getting Dwight in free agency is a loooong shot. But I think trading for him in the summer would make the magic more desperate to lose him for nothing. Therefore, they would accept a lesser offer from us…

by aug93 on Jan 20, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Life of a Net fan after March 15??

Would you guys prefer Magic tradeDH12 to a team before march 15 or just let him walk for free? My brain says that if they let him wak for free its good for us. But then so many scenarios and rumours are going to fly that might not be good for my heart…

i think i hope they trade him before march 15 else its going to be a LONG summer…We might see few heart attacks on NetsDail…lol

by NetsYankee on Jan 20, 2012 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

Dont Trade him before March

I would rather pick him up as a Free Agent.

by SIC One on Jan 20, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Can anyone explain to me what caused the Mayo deal to fall through?

I’m not exactly the world’s biggest Mayo fan (I only like it mixed with something, like Lobster Salad) but I want to know why the Nets didn’t pull the trigger on this deal when they supposedly had it on the table.

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

It was a long shot anyway. Farmar and a pick or Morrow without a pick? Memphis could get better offers for Mayo at the trade deadline.

For our part, Marshon seems to have cemented his role as starting SG, not off the bench SG or undersized starting SF, so we’re no longer inclined to raise our rather low bid for Mayo. Which is alright now.

by stenpoint on Jan 20, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong, I agree with everything you said but the reports were that it was “the Nets deal to make.” I was skeptical for the same reasons you are- the Grizz can’t get anything better than Farmar and a pick?

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

BUT

Thats going to open the rumours box and a long summer. Let’s just give BLopez, Brooks n call it a day. Ihate to include Brooks but that might be the reason Magic make the trade. At this point Brooks looks like a good player with a potential of becomgin a great one.

by NetsYankee on Jan 20, 2012 12:23 PM EST reply actions  

Want and Get are 2 different things

They arent getting offered what they want. I think they dont trade him anywhere

Starshon Brooks A.K.A the Swag Mamba

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 20, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats too much

A package of B Lopez, Brooks and our first round pick (1-5) MIGHT be better than DH12 alone. But the problem is if we dont get DH12 Dwill wont stay. What a mess. I hate Nets FO. WHYin the world we didnt follow OKC model…why Miami…WHYYY

by NetsYankee on Jan 20, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL Otis
Magic GM Otis Smith: Dwight “didn’t directly throw Jameer under the bus,” but “indirectly” did, wanting to play with DWilliams or CPaul

by NetsKiNG on Jan 20, 2012 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

he lacks a filter of when to say things to the media and when to keep them in house.

by JimmyLips on Jan 20, 2012 12:36 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I don’t know which is worse, OS as a general manager or DH12 as a teammate.

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank God

we traded this guy

Been hearing reliable rumblings since trip to Reno for D-League Showcase that Jazz have made it known Devin Harris is available via trade

https://twitter.com/#!/ESPNSteinLine/status/160276449801158656

by SIC One on Jan 20, 2012 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

“We’ll take Devin off of our hands if you give us Derrick Favors back. Thanks- Billy”

by mytoemytoe on Jan 20, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Harris seems like he's going to become an Andre Miller type

Can step in and play for any team but won’t be a game changer. Will bounce around from team to team and never stick. It’s a shame because he’s a good guy and a hard worker.

by ZR on Jan 20, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

not even CLOSE to Andre Miller.

I loved Harris and I still root for him to succeed, but fact is, once he stopped using his quickness, he was done. He doesn’t have the veteran basketball mind the Andre does, nor the toughness, nor the flat out cajones. he’s clearly lost his swagger, as evidenced by that terrible, terrible air ball last night. meanwhile Andre Miller is lighting up his former team for 28 points.

by sheepareevil on Jan 20, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

because he

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imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Jan 20, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see it happening

Seriously, look at the approach the Lakers have taken recently. They hired Mike Brown without consulting Kobe. They traded Lamar Kardashian whiteout consulting Kobe. Why would the younger Buss trade Bynum, who is a cheaper version of Dwight Howard, for the real thing? He said he wasn’t moving Bynum, and the Lakers aren’t giving ip both Bynum and Gasol for Dwight.

by IrishPride187 on Jan 21, 2012 12:53 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

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