Will Rock Shootaround Help?
by Net Income on Jan 18, 2012 5:24 PM EST
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PrintThe Nets did something they almost never do Wednesday morning. Rather than shoot around at the PNY Center in East Rutherford, they gathered at the Prudential Center for shooting drills and some run-throughs. It's one way Avery Johnson hopes the team can get better at home, where they are the only NBA team not to have single win.
What might help is some good news on the health front, but there's precious little. Brook Lopez is out of his surgical boot and taking shots. That's it. Damion James and Shawne Williams are still out with a sore foot and shin splints. So Johnson welcomed the arrival of Larry Owens, "When [Damion's] injured, we don't have a three on our roster. We just have a bunch of twos".
As for Owens, he said he was about to get aboard a team bus for a 240-mile trip when his phone rang with the good news. "You never know when you'll get the phone call again."
- Nets promote Owens from D-League - Tim Bontemps - New York Post Nets Blog
- Nets send Jordan Williams to D-League - Tim Bontemps - New York Post Nets Blog
- Nets attempting to turn it around - Mike Mazzeo - ESPN New York
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"When [Damion's] injured, we don't have a three on our roster. We just have a bunch of twos".
Even with Damion James, you don’t have a three on your roster, but anyway…
The Nets are due to win one at home. I think they’ll do it tonight.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Nets weren't building a team...
this offseason…it was 1 year rentals and focus on Howard. If Lopez didn’t go down with injury…I’m sure the Nets were planning on adding a SF over Okur.
by BKNfastbreak on Jan 18, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
i dont believe we got him to show the knicks up
i think prok and billy r much more mature than that
i think we got him because we believed he’d build on last year, his first decent nba season. sadly, not even close
Correct.
I’m just saying that we “built” this team with more than one 3. If Shawne were in shape, it would certainly help (of course, there’s also the factor of the D’Antoni offense, but Shawne could contribute more than this if he were in shape).
it is true..
that we’ve been unfortunate. but even at full force we r not great at the 3
You do... But you don't.
If you catch my meaning.
Yeah, i’m just a tiiiiiny bit bitter over the fact that this team has had a black hole at SF since it traded RJ.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
so...
Avery views Shawne Williams as more of a stretch PF, and MarShon/Morrow as obvious SGs. Would Mayo be the move…or will the Nets try swing a trade for a SF?
by BKNfastbreak on Jan 18, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yep!
Good move by Avery, I expect a win
by boogeewon on Jan 18, 2012 5:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Let it do some good!
Hopefully Deron will have a good shooting game and we get our first HOME WIN!
i’m calling it like I did in the other thread. Nets 92 GSW 88.
I hope. Let’s D up on Ellis and Lee and I believe GSW doesn’t have their PG either.
GSW is going to rack 40 fat break points if this team doesn't show effort on transition D
David Lee leak outs to a Monta or Nate Robinson fast break finish. Our misse 3s and long rebounds don’t help either.
Brooks vs Ellis should be fun
I predict Deron will have a big game and we get a win. My first time being this optimistic
At least they're moving on from bricks.
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
by GMJigga on Jan 18, 2012 5:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Are the rocks going to be the roof of the new train station?
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Shin Splints??????
Are you kidding me? That means you showed up out of shape and didn’t pick up a basketball all offseason. Lazy bum.
you obviously no nothing about shin splints
it has nothing to do with being in shape. I had them when I played baseball for an entire season. They are brutal. Now think about running up and down a court.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
I do know what im talking about lol
I have had shin splints many many many times.
Shin Splints are common in athletes who run but can be avoided with conditioning. Basketball is all running. If shin splints couldnt be prevented with conditioning every player would have them.
And if you had them for an entire season then your trainer was an idiot. Shin splints go away easily with 1 to 2 weeks of rest with icing your shins daily. The key is to stop running for a couple weeks so the tendons heal.
So your saying your a lazy athlete?
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Well I wasn't
I played through injuries. I don’t know what kind of shin splints you had where they are “go away easily”
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
Theres only one type of shin splint lol
I don’t know where your trying to go with this, it’s real simple. Stop running, ice your shins and in a week or two they go away. It’s always worked for me.
degrees of pain is what i am talking about
considering you were a ’lazy athlete" i doubt yours were anywhere as painful as mine were.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
They were painful enough that i went to a doctor
Which is why i know about them. I wouldn’t just make this stuff up. I’m telling you what a doctor told me, nothing more, nothing less. If you don’t want to accept that then that’s fine.
Also i doubt you had them for an entire season
If you did you would have had stress fractures in your shins. Thats why its important to stop running when you do have shin splints. if you dont stop running they can cause stress fractures. Google it lol
i don't need to google anything
i played baseball, not basketball. If you didn’t know, you don’t run as much.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
Fair enough
But don’t try to tell someone there wrong when you obviously don’t know what your talking about. Shin Splints are most definitely caused by a lack of conditioning. As a professional athlete you should be in tip top shape.
right...
i guess that’s why athletes who are in tip top shape get hurt all the time.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
torn ACLs, MCLS, broken legs, broken wrists, broken arms...
Conditioning doesn’t prevent them, your absolutely right. What’s your point?
you just said i am absolutely right about a point you yourself were trying to make
this is getting annoying
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
NO
I said lack of conditioning causes shin splints and thats why SHAWNE WILLIAMS should have been in better shape since HE is a professional athlete. You said some BS about thats why athletes who are in tip top shape get hurt. YES athletes get hurt…. torn ligaments, broken bones…. those injuries have nothing to do with conditioning. SHIN SPLINTS do have a lot to do with conditioning.
You are making absolutely NO sense whatsoever.
Lets agree to disagree, even though i know im right :), and move on. Your too stubborn.
First day of classes, had a 3 hour class ending at 7:50, teacher let us out after 30 minutes, so now I don’t have to miss any of the Nets game.
Is Owens suiting up?
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
He couldn’t load up the syllabus. He asked the class if anyone recognized the error message he kept getting, I thought I could probably figure it out, but I figured if I kept my mouth shut we’d get out quicker
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
Marshon2 Marshon S. Brooks
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briancmahoney Brian Mahoney
Knicks averaging 89.3 ppg, Suns 92.8 during their losing streaks. Definitely not the way people often think of these teams.
That’s it? What happened to offensive powerhouse?
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and the Knicks schedule...
has been VERY friendly so far.
by BKNfastbreak on Jan 18, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
lob city east duh
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 18, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
What happened to offensive powerhouse?
Ask Amare. He’s been pretty brutal this year.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
the only important thing here is about marshon
many of us debated: is he a 2 or a 3. regardless of the answer, the nets clearly view him as the team’s 2 guard.
2/3 is interchangeable
especially if we only have 2s
it is for some guys
many players can play multiple positions, but it depends. like, i think morrow is just a 2. he’s too small to hang w/3’s, not big enough to deal with 1’s. brooks can play the 2-3, but not the 1. then a guy like a terry can play the 1 and 2, but not the 3.
See I think the opposite
I think Morrow is big enough to bang with most 3s, and I don’t think he has the speed to guard 2s or 3s, but at least most opposing 3s are a little slower than 2s.
Avery thinks everyone is a SG
Dwill – SG
Brooks – SG
Farmar – SG
Gaines – SG
Twill – SG
ShaWill – SG
Lopez – SG
some SFs that may be available
Francisco Garcia SAC
JMoon FA
AThornton FA
Dahntay Jones Indy
CDR Europe LOL
Dahntay Jones...
Duke. He’s could be decent…not putting good numbers up at all this season, but solid D which Nets need. He has a $2.7 mil player option for next season which I don’t like.
by BKNfastbreak on Jan 18, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
I have been high on Dahntay especially for this team would add a lot at the wing position
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Nets are actually 2.5 point favorites tonight, even with Monta active.
I’m gonna go with 103-99 Nets with great games from Marshon and Morrow. The 3 ball will be dropping today. DWill will have 14 assists. David Lee will drop 28-30 but Hump will do his usual double double damage. Petro gets 6 total minutes off the bench.
Is there like an advantage given to home teams in bball?
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depends on the situation.
I wish I could look back at the odds of a home and home series to answer exactly, but if we were in golden state tonight, I would imagine the warriors being favored by 6.
by SteViePoPzBK on Jan 18, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
People actually started betting the Nets since this morning so the line moved to 3.5
Guess its our time tonight. And the 6 if we were in GS isn’t exact, just my assumption. But yeah you always give some clout to the home team. Like if we were playing the Heat in NJ we would still be approx 7-9 point dogs, but in Miami that could jump to 15 or more.
by SteViePoPzBK on Jan 18, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
So really we're 5 points underdogs?
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without homecourt advantage which doesnt really help in our case were expected to lose
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good example:
the giants are 2.5 point underdogs because they are in san Fran. if the game was in jersey, they would probably be 2 or 3 point favorites.
by SteViePoPzBK on Jan 18, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was Clippers, Sheridan?
sheridanhoops Chris Sheridan
More on Dwight Howard and Deron Williams: The Dallas #Mavericks option: Heisler column: bit.ly/w1g4Gg
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done
and tagged Dwight into it :)
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He's a joke
I suggest ND and everyone here to stop linking and referencing from his website from now on
thought it would bring a few laughs
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yes! Nets_PR
Same starting lineup tonight vs. GS as at LAC… Stevenson, Hump, Okur, Brooks, D. Will
"Beware the Ides of March."
that same 5 didnt start that well in LA did they
by NJ Champ on Jan 18, 2012 6:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Who knows.
I think Net Income was just messing around, but he said he sensed a Woj tweet coming in an earlier thread
Oh okay, thanks
yes i think he was pulling our leg on that one
he's just pulling your chain
Unless stevieboy wrote it it won''t happen
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
heisler touted howard to LA for so long
now does the about face. NONE of these reporters have ANY clue. it’s not their fault though: the only people that know (otis smith, rich devos, etc)… don’t talk to these reporters. its some combo of agents and lower people on the totem pole. better reporters im sure have more credible people.
I know I don’t know the ins and outs as a reporter does: but “sources” were wrong about lebron, about paul, about bosh, about melo, and even wade when they nearly pegged him in chicago.
so why listen now? fool me once fool me twice. fool me six times?
OT
but since Sheridans twitter says he follows nobody, does all he see when he opens Twitter is his own rumors, and since there is no other tweets saying otherwise, he assumes people believe him and carry on?
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Stevenson
as much as i think he’s a decent guy and good presence for our locker room this year and next, i dont think he’s good enough to start/play starter minutes (he was a placeholder for dallas for terry to be the guy). he shoots under 30% right now
oh i know
we don’t have much of a choice. just stating that when we wonder why we are 3-11 (and maybe a borderling 31-35 team with brook), there are reasons. our 3 spot is a large reason
That's why we tried to go for Butler
and probably would’ve tried for Kirilenko if we didn’t have to get Okur when Brook was injured.
he plays great defense and knocks down 3s whats not to like?
by netsyankees4life on Jan 18, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
good not great defense
lebron absolutely rolled us.
lebron has rolled the entire league noones stopping him, shall we name everyone hes beasted?
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 18, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
im just saying
if you rated starting small forwards he’d definitely be in the bottom third
if you rated teams this team would be in the bottom thir....well just the bottom
we are who we are
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 18, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
yea i know
i just believe that position is our worst position.
He's coming off an injury not sure if the knee is still bothering him
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
he's averaging 3 ppg
on 28% shooting. and 31% from 3 which is not actually that good from 3.
yea, our best option. but thats pretty bad for a best option
not having on dsteve.
i LOVE him for this team as a locker room guy. i just don’t think he’s good enough to be a starting small forward, but that’s what we have.
agreed
even in his prime he would never even be considered a starting 3
So dwill is still mad were losing...
1.Well don’t turn the ball over, after coming out a TO in the last mins of the game when you a basket
2. Don’t leave your man in a pick and roll play, where billups hit the three to kill the game
by GameTime on Jan 18, 2012 6:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
he's in the newer breed
we have a “brat pack” star from that 03-06 draft class area.
What about LaMarcus Aldridge?
Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jan 18, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
but they all..
get moody like this, mail it in when dont believe in their ’mates, etc.
alex kennedy of hoopsworld, on dwight
Howard Isn’t Interested in Clippers: Dwight Howard hasn’t added the Los Angeles Clippers to his list of preferred destinations, multiple sources confirm. Right now, the New Jersey Nets appear to be Howard’s top choice, with the Dallas Mavericks and Los Angeles Lakers not far behind.
Howard hasn’t given the Clippers much thought and denied that his list of teams has changed when asked prior to Tuesday’s game against the Charlotte Bobcats. The superstar center is tired of the media speculating where he’s going to land.
Howard jokingly told reporters, "Sources say Dwight Howard is signing with the Harlem Globetrotters."
Right now, Howard is focusing on winning games with the Orlando Magic. The team is off to a 10-3 start and they’ve received significant contributions from Ryan Anderson, Hedo Turkoglu and J.J. Redick. Howard and the Magic are having a terrific season, which is impressive given all of the trade rumors and distractions that are surrounding the team.
Someone's gotta compete with duh Knicks
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not sure why knicks are so hyped
from 2001-2010, the team was horrid, every single season.
and then it becomes a .500 team and its like OMG KNICKS! not sure why
i meant in getting the most ridiculous trade rumors
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but that was my side intention
it works both ways
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i am over anderson...
because that wasnt the billy-prok regime. that deal was made because ratner wanted to cut costs. we r not run that way anymore: we wont spend recklessly on bad longterm deals, but we would NEVER make a salary dump on a young kid
basically what im saying is...
we wouldn’t have dealt ryan as a throwaway under this new regime
Rod Thorn was playing house money he no longer had
with the kidd trade and two finals appearances that followed, Thorn had room for error. He must have thought he was a God though cuz he didn’t do much to finish the puzzle before Nets went into dismantle mode. Then during the break down of the team, he still made poor decision cuz he did miss out a few good draft picks.
larry owens...
laugh all you want, but i can see him getting some burn tonight.
again, the new regime likes 2 way athletes, not 1 way guys. its why guys like morrow r falling out of favor. owens seems like one of those athlete energy guys we like.
ot
does anyone know how to put your twitter account in signature
Why?
It starts to get a little annoying. But if you really want maybe someone with one could help
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Its ridiculously annoying
I’ll never follow anyone that has it
you know whats annoying:
this is an article after we lost, implying deron is leaving: LOS ANGELES — Deron Williams emerged from the training room looking tired and drawn. While reporters huddled around teammates Kris Humphries and Jordan Farmar, Williams sat quietly at his locker, holding his cell phone and stroking the bottom of his goatee. He was too upset to get dressed or soak his feet in the ice bucket in front of him, or to read through any of his texts.
here’s my take: i am a tennis player. i love it, to death. i always want to play. i always want to be out there. sometimes, ill play a long match, and its like ur tired, ur dead, u kinda just want to lie there, like a lug. that DOES NOT mean that you’re done with it, at all! it just means you had a long day
look, everyone knows he wants a star to run with. and everyone knows who that star is. and the nets didn’t make moves this offseason, because if they did, they’d have foreclosed the ability to get that player, and we’d go 36-30 and he’d bolt, 400%. so we did what we did, and we were right to do it
by jsalkin1 on Jan 18, 2012 6:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Ill say this about the D12 rumors and rumors regarding superstars in general
Whenever they list who their # one team is thats basically the only team they want to go to and the rest are fillers and back up back up plans. But Superstars usually get what they want especially if the NBA doesn’t own their team.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
paul wanted knicks...
it didnt happen.
the way i think it works is there are MULTIPLE places they will go to that have the flexibility with their cap to pull it off. and with trades happening now not guys walking, it comes down to who from that menu of teams helps the other team the most
this is true
that’s also a fact that bodes well here. we’ll see, over the net 1 2 maybe 3 star moves, if the paul move (not to THE team, but A team), is the new trend, or an aberration.
idc as long he’s a net :)
only cuz the hornets are owned by the league
which the OP mentioned
Like I said if your team isn't owned by the league lol
David stern can’t veto a trade, also Knicks Knicks weren’t realistic.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
i'm also VERY interested to see how tonight goes...
i honestly feel we made progress offensively the last 5-6 games: it looks SO much better. and, last game, the D really came to play even though we came up short.
Now, with me truly believing we finally got progress on BOTH sides, and a sub .500 team on our floor rather than these sick teams like atlanta, miami…i wanna see what we can do tonight
i forget about this until now but
today in school someone tried telling me (this is a knicks fand mind you) that amare is a more powerful dominant player than dwight LOL i was laughing in his face i then precede to beat him in horse without him even getting a letter on me…dumb knicks fans
by netsyankees4life on Jan 18, 2012 6:47 PM EST reply actions
idt mike got banned, just mad
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I got banned during the clipper game and was.going crazy that I couldn't post lol, ill tell you never again
by KillaHoose on Jan 18, 2012 7:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I dont
sounds like some sort of sports torture
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bigger news...
via ledger nets: Nets GM Billy King said he hasn’t talked to Brook Lopez’ agent about a contract extension. King said Lopez’ injury "has had an impact on’’ the decision to not want to extend Lopez.
hello everybody
at least one good news , bogdanovic had a great game today worth of mention
Im sure he was just playing around. Focus on GSW and there unstoppable fast break on our poor transition D.
if anything WOJ usually breaks news into the wee hours of the night
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