Howard To Clips? How So?
by Net Income on Jan 17, 2012 1:13 PM EST
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PrintDwight Howard has basically denied Chris Sheridan's report that he's interested in joining the Clippers, tweeting to a fan who noted it, "love how everything y’all see y’all believe. If it ain’t from the horse don’t believe it. But God bless u." Moreover, Otis Smith said Howard's agent has not told him the center has expanded his list of preferred teams beyond the Nets, Lakers and Mavericks.
And if that isn't enough, Ramona Shelburne of ESPN LA says the Clippers and Magic "haven't had any serious discussions with the Clippers about Howard since the lockout was lifted," which would mean before the Clips traded for Chris Paul. Moreover, Shelburne reports that Magic would almost assuredly ask for Blake Griffin or Paul, which the Clippers would laugh at and that the other big man doing well in L.A., DeAndre Jordan, can't be traded this season.
- Dwight Howard wants in on Lob City? - Ramona Shelburne - ESPN LA
- Report -- Dwight Howard of Orlando Magic adds Los Angeles Clippers to trade wish list - ESPN
- Dwight Howard indicates Clippers are not on his list of preferred destinations - Josh Robbins - Orlando Sentinel
- Clippers, Magic have no deal for Howard - Broderick Turner - Los Angeles Times
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Facts are Sheridan's kryptonite
He has a 7-1 wingspan and averaged 7.1 rebounds in the Big East. He will be one of the top players when we look back on this draft 3 years from now. DWILL-of-the-GODZ June 3, 2011
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 17, 2012 1:15 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
Sheridan is an idiot! When if he tries to say Howard will be a net then and only should you pack it in haha!
The Dwight to the Nets is as bad of a kept secret at the Melo situation was so yeah in all honesty I will be surprised if Howard isn’t a net by the deadline… Stranger things have happened though but oh well my life is good and I’m far from a fanatic when it comes to sports… It’s just entertainment baby haha
by boogeewon on Jan 17, 2012 1:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Again
Sheridan is just trying to drive site traffic, since right now that is his only source of income.
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 17, 2012 1:18 PM EST reply actions
The Clippers have worse assets then the Mavs
Life after Dwight
http://www.netsdaily.com/2012/1/17/2713770/life-after-dwight-if-he-is-traded-to-another-team
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 17, 2012 1:21 PM EST reply actions
This is officially worst than the Melo drama
every week the “source” might add a team
Dwight or Bust
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Once again Sheridan, we all know your reports are
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by LBJOSH on Jan 17, 2012 1:31 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
Sheridan is always suspect at best
along with most of the media, creating stories from the most obscure and ridiculous of sources. I’m sure Howard has better things to do than be editing his “list” when he has absolutely no control over his situation until the end of the season.
Two more months
and this nonsense is over. If he makes it to free agency, he’s ours.
I'd like to see a quick list of bullet points
of how many things he’s inappropriately and inaccurately written stories
D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)
by corky_romano4life on Jan 17, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
If they amnesty Mo Williams this summer
Could the Clipps sign Dwight outright to pair with Griffin and CP3?
As you said, the only other (besides Blake) interesting young big on the roster is DeAndre Jordan, but it doesn’t look like he can be traded this year.
So for Dwight to go to the Clipps, the Magic would need to let him walk for nothing at the end of the season. Are they really that stupid? I’m kind of wiling to believe they are. ::smh::
I have no idea what they’re thinking….
No.
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by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 17, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Mo Williams would only give them 8mil below cap
Not quite enough to offer Dwight a contract
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 17, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
clipper fan
We are discussing that on CN, the only way i could see it happeningis if Dwight force his way, say he wants to be a clipper and in the offseason we do a S&T with Orlando for DJ and Bledsoe and if Orlando won’t do it we trade DJ for a second rounder to some team, this however is very unlikely. I believe he is going to be a Laker, hopefully you get him before them.
What a bad team can do for you ... via GM Survey !!!
Who is the best point guard in the NBA?
1. Derrick Rose, Chicago — 59.3%
2. Chris Paul, L.A. Clippers — 37.0%
3. Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City — 3.7%
Last year: Deron Williams — 50.0%
http://www.nba.com/news/features/2012-gm-survey/index.html#players
by d2d on Jan 17, 2012 1:51 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
The Nets Effect
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 17, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
And he didn't have a bad team, he went to the finals twice.
When the team got bad, he got migraines; and he wasn’t even mentioned in the Nash class, which I DO NOT agree with.
Or maybe just bad playing
If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.
This I agree with
and its not just his bad team, its his bad play as well.
Dwight or Bust
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There was a story in Peter King's MMQB this week about the Eli trade
That shows us what we have to do with Marshon Brooks:
Smith, the Chargers’ rookie GM at the time, asked then-Giants GM Accorsi for unknown second-year pass-rusher Umenyiora in the week before the draft. No, Accorsi said; I don’t trade young pass-rushers.
San Diego had the first pick in the draft, and Manning said he didn’t want to play for San Diego, but the Chargers picked him anyway — and everyone in football knew they wanted North Carolina State quarterback Philip Rivers instead; the Manning pick was going to force the Giants to deal a ransom for him because Accorsi loved Manning and Smith knew it. So with the Giants on the clock, Smith called again.
"He brought up Umenyiora again,‘’ Accorsi told me last night, "and I said no. We were not giving him up. There was no way.’’
So now the trade teetered. If Smith had insisted on Umenyiora and killed the deal, Accorsi had an ace up his sleeve: He could trade down three spots and pick up a second-round pick from Cleveland … and still draft the Giants’ No. 2 quarterback on the board, Ben Roethlisberger from Miami of Ohio. The Giants liked Manning much more, but Accorsi wouldn’t budge on Umenyiora. Accorsi offered the Giants’ first- and third-round picks in ‘04, and an ’05 first-rounder. "We still want Osi,’’ Smith told him.
Tick, tick, tick …
Two minutes left.
Accorsi’s last, best offer.
"No Osi,‘’ he said. "That’s still a deal-breaker. But we’ll throw in a six next year.’’
Pause on the line from San Diego.
Tick, tick, tick …
"Make it a four,’’ Smith said.
"I’ll give you a five,’’ Accorsi said.
Done.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/01/16/divisionals/index.html
Take that advice, Billy. Take that advice.
Nice parallel ....
Wish BK tells Otis.
No MarSwag …
this is great
can someone tweet this story to BK?
already did
but we need to bombard him with it
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
it's a bold move
and a test of will power.
The one thing Giants had going for them, was how bad San Diego really wanted Rivers. The Giants truly were fine either way, they had other options at their disposal.
In the Nets case, they are the Chargers. Magic know how bad the Nets want and need Howard. Yes, Nets can play hardball and say fine, we’ll wait to FA, but IF the Lakers step in, the Nets are forced to do whatever it takes to get the deal done. If Brooks is a deal breaker between Howard going to the Nets or Howard going to LA…then bye bye Brooks.
We can all say that Magic have no leverage, but they still hold Dwight.
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 17, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
It would be amazing if King was able to do that
but its extremely unlikely. If Dwight truly has his mind made up that its Nets or nothing, and he tells Orlando that he will only resign with the Nets, I guess it might be possible for him to exclude MarShon.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 17, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
PROBLEM
Accorsi had an ace up his sleeve: He could trade down three spots and pick up a second-round pick from Cleveland … and still draft the Giants’ No. 2 quarterback on the board, Ben Roethlisberger from Miami of Ohio.
We don’t have that alternative. We lose leverage of Dwight wanting to play for us if the Lakers make an offer, and Cap Relief + more low draft picks can’t make up the difference of getting the better big man.
We NEED Dwight. Without him we probably kiss Deron goodbye.
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
Ace up our sleeve
Get him in free agency…
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
if and only if
there isn’t another team willing to deal for Dwight. That is it. If there is another team involved, say the Lakers, then there is no leverage.
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 17, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
The magic are playing very well. I can see them holding on to howard until the end of the season...
Which is great. The nets really need to push to have him walk on to the team as a free agent…
Wow just heard on Espn(SVP show)
They talking about D12 for Blake will be a smart deal?
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 17, 2012 1:59 PM EST reply actions
yea for the clippers
why the heck would the magic do that…….
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
dwight>>>>.blake
why wouldn’t they?
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
Clips would never do that!
Blake is a ticket selling machine, D12 is not at that level as far as tickets go.
i think he is
the whole “lob city” thing would still be there and dwight is the best in the game blake is not even close to him
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
Did not say he's not better.
Blake is a one man show man. He sells ticket on his own.
Dwight is not at that level. Think about from marketing perspective.
Clips are fighting the LakeShow….. hard if you don’t have Blake there …
i don't think so
and you can still market dwight the same way as blake, and dwight and cp3 vs. kobe and bynum would be a great matchup
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
Guess you're looking at the talent level, and don'w want to let it go.
Would you go watch Blake or D12 (CP3 is irrelevant as he’s there eitherway)?
Be honest in your answer!
either one
i don’t really see the difference, both are very fun to watch and will sell tickets, but maybe the clips want to make LA Blake’s town so they will do everything they can
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
LA has no fans, they have pretty people with lots of money.
They go there for a show. Unlike real fans like us.
They want to watch Blake as they did go and see him even when his team sucked.
Which is why Orlando has sold out for 2 and a half seasons in a row now.
The Clippers have been terrible for so long that their fans wanted something to be excited about. (he is a great draw though).
he's better but blake isn't that much behind him
and blake probably has a little bit more talent
excuse my bad english please
Not just a skill
Blake is Clippers’ franchise young player.
This is big core for Clippers fans.
1 - D. Williams / J. Farmar / S. Gaines
2 - A. Morrow / M. Brooks
3 - D. Stevenson / S. Williams / D.James
4 - K. Humphries / S. Williams / J. Williams / D. Horner
5 - M. Okur / J. Petro / B. Lopez
Overexaggeration
Right now, Dwight is better, but not worlds better than Blake. Blake is also much more entertaining, much cheaper & “their guy.” They also have a perfect compliment to him in Jordan. I think the Clippers stick with their frontcourt & focus on upgrading their SG position.
He also plays no defense...
…I guess we all expect the Clips to remain the Clips in terms of decision-making, but who knows?
People like to hype up Dwight like he's the 2nd coming of Kareem or Shaq
There is no way Clippers trade there franchise playing in BG
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He wants to leave
I dislike any star that forces there way out like Melol, Howard, CP3, etc but that has become the norm now.
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Never said that
I said it wouldn’t make sense to trade such a young guy, who’s on the verge of becoming the best PF if not already the best PF in today’s NBA. Howard and Griffin have two different play styles and play different positions. I just think the Dwight to Clippers scenario is bologna and is just another team used to ante up the offer. And I appreciate how you try to make what I said the opposite of what I meant.
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Griffin>Howard
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 17, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
I also believe there is no shot that they would trade him, because they don't really have anything else on their roster to match up salaries.
All of their assets outside of Griffin were sent away in the CP3 trade.
Because they need someone GOOD in return for DH12 , who is the best center in the NBA
take your pick
Lopez
Bynum
Griffin
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by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 17, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
What?
Blake is a franchise player and made all star his first year( I’m not going to count his injury year)
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 17, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Howard > Griffin
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by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 17, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Griffin>Howard
Dwight or Bust
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no way in any universe
would the clips do that
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 17, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Because they become an instant championship contender...
…with CP3 and Dwight?
Blake is good but not at Dwight’s level yet, especially with regards to defense
Clippers aren't desperate
they are on the way up, no need to make a major move like this.
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 17, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
they should
Blake is a joke on D compared to Dwight.
by sheepareevil on Jan 17, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
None can shoot a free throw
which is horrible for “franchise” players
If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.
He needs a good swing player to play along side of for him to contend for a Title
instead of pretending for one
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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MarShon stays put in annnnnyyy scenario!
by Mr. Cash on Jan 17, 2012 2:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Amen to that, brother!
I too think Dwight’s not going anywhere until the end of the season. Blake Griffin would be a great step towards rebuilding, but I’m pretty sure the Clips won’t let him go. Except for the blocks, he and Dwight have similar numbers (12 obviously has the experience and better stats overall, of course). They have shot blockers, they have scorers, and as tempting as CP3 + D12 sounds, it’s not happening.
by Brooklyn-Bound on Jan 17, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Ni, do you know if the nets are still talking to Orlando?
And any info on Fegan? If he is pushing for a deal to the nets
I'm not NI (obviously) and I don't know any info
but I can assume there is not much discussions between the two teams are going on now . We really only have 3 desirable assets. 1 of them (our top pick) improves in value the more the Nets lose, 1 of them can’t be traded right yet (Brooks), and the other is rehabbing from foot surgery (Lopez)
by SovietBrooklyn on Jan 17, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
You forgot our most valuable asset
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 17, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
is he tebowing
The Future is Not Written For Us, But By Us
by LBJOSH on Jan 17, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The picture is symbolic if you look at it
he’s sucks right now, especially what he holds in his hand
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his jumpshot is money!
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
4-6 yesterday? lol
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Brooks can be traded
He could have on January 9th.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 17, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
true but thats only in a one for one deal.
Magic ain’t doin Brooks for Howard…evne though that would be nice lol
complacency at work is damaging to the brain
how about this for a conspiracy theory(some of this likely mentioned already).
Nets and Magic already have a deal in place that includes:
- Nets tank as much of the season they can before deadline so pick has better chance of being in the top 10
- BLo’s injury is faked in order for his value to not be tarnished any more by being bad while playing with DWill
- BLo’s return will suddenly result in a few unexpected wins which makes him look better to Magic fans
- MarShon is not part of the trade because of Nets agreeing to tank season for above reasons
- OJ Mayo or Wallace will be part of deal
by Versifiervt on Jan 17, 2012 2:33 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Crazier thing have happened. Fake Injury included.
Fake injury can be an injury prevention as well.
Too much time in our hand right … i know
i'll buy this conspiracy
Only because it sounds good to me
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
I won't buy conspiracy for no other reason than we don't have to tank anything.
We’re not good right now.
after last night's game
maybe we can do Shelden for Dwight straight up. ORL can throw in some picks
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
jokes aside...
Shelden and Petro played above average against one of the strongest frontcourts in the league, I was glad to finally see our bigs go at the basket instead of settling for jump shoots.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
You sound surprise
Dwight or Bust
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As long as you have Humphries bailing him out...
I’m happy with his offense. He didn’t hit that 3 that could have tied the game at the closing seconds though.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
I Approve
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Looking at the teams I think we are the only choice that makes sense
Lakers: Doubt Magic trade Dwight to LAL after what happend with Shaq
Clippers: Cant see Clippers trading Griffin
Mavs:Nothing to trade
Nets:First choice, Otis and King are friends we have a nice 1st round pick, Lopez, Cap Relief, Marshon.
And we are his first choice so if he makes it to free agency he will be coming here
I was looking back at the decision thread
Lupo was the same back than, he was saying that lebron would still be a net after he said miami. lol
by joeyb896 on Jan 17, 2012 2:56 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Can you share that thread?
Dwight or Bust
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omg that was some COMEDY
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 17, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
All the Lakers need is another guard and there championship material to me if Kobe stays healthy
Kobe doesn’t pass it already to his bigs.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Depends on how Kobe wants to play during the playoffs
if he wants to put up 30+ shots and not get his big involved, Lakers aren’t going to go far. The obvious bet is OKC wins the West
Dwight or Bust
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I think its the most obvious Finals Match up so far this season
Clippers have a chance as well to win the West along with the Lakers. I think Miami is a lock, Bulls the dark horse if they don’t.
Dwight or Bust
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Yeah thats why I don't see the D12 thing
Tho I think it sounds good but watching the Lakers play its another guard they need not big.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
It makes 0 sense to me as well.
And find a PG to play along side Kobe could either help the Lakers or make Kobe play suffer. Kobe has NEVER played with a good PG before(Payton doesn’t count). He’s always been in control of the ball, and has always been the decision maker. A guy with his ego might not take things lightly.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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I'm sick of the Lakers...
they should step aside and let Clippers take over, their time has passed.
Want to see teams like Minny, Memphis, Indiana, Nets in the playoffs more often.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
I have a feeling
WCF: Lakers vs OKC
ECF: Miami vs Chicago
I think 98% of the world have that same feeling lol
Dwight or Bust
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Hello Nets Blogger
Clippers fan here. You guys have a great active blog supporting a team that is having challenges. I have an off the wall question. We used to have a Nets blogger (troller) at Clips Nation named Jade (followed by a few numbers) that posted consistently for a few months with questions sounding like Napoleon Dynamite “Is Vinny a good coach?” “Do you like how Blake Griffins dunks?” etc. He fell off the earth and we used to like to play with him when he posted. He was harmless but quite bizarre. Is he still posting here?
"Great Balls Of Fire, Reggie's Back!"
Hello fellow fan of another team that has always also had "challenges"
Glad to see you are enjoying the success we had in the Jason Kidd days. Nothing like high flying dunks and premier PG’s to rejuvenate a franchise!
I’m not sure I know this “jade” character.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
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jaydee lol
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
jaydee2477 and jadeed2577
you banned him twice for consistent plagiarism
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 17, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
jaydee has pretty much banned himself from all of SB Nation.
Too stupid to realize he could create another account at NetsDaily, so he trolled other basketball blogs until he got banned from all of them.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 17, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Welcome PV Mike
Can’t say I’ve heard of him. Must be a troll (Not a personal attack)
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It was probably Blake Griffin
He’s a known troll when he plays the Nets.
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by phatman00 on Jan 17, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Lmao you meant Jaydee I believe or something like that he got banned here for not providing links I believe
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Yes it was Jadee
and I did not come as a troll. I watched the Nets when Julius, the Whopper and Brian Taylor played for you on LI. and have always been a fan since a young boy.
"Great Balls Of Fire, Reggie's Back!"
LMAO
jaydee HAHAHAHAHa yes that guy had the best/worst comments ever.
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 17, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
haha, he's talkin bout jaydee2237
that used to ask the most random questions. ND banned him for plagiarism. But i’ve seen him on other bball sites and he does the same junk. its quite hilarious i dont know if he does it on purpose or what.
I was on Canis Hoopus and they ragged him pretty good.
Wolves fan: “If you are a Nets fan then why are you here?”
Jaydee2237: “They banned me and wont let me back”
Group of Wolves fans: “Lucky fans”
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 17, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Makes me happy
by RandyOreens on Jan 17, 2012 3:24 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Loved It
Someone had to do it. Clearly Avery isnt as tough as I thought. I wonder if Elie told stevenson to do it. then Avery benched Stevenson for yelling at Brooks.
SMFH!!!!!! FIRE AVERY.
Didn't Avery approve of it in the post game conference
And said that’s what he’s here for.
And to be honest, I don’t think Avery didn’t benched Stevenson. He was trading offense for defense near the end of the game. The lineup that brought the Nets back into the game is what he ran with for most of that 4th qtr. Granted, Farmar probably shouldn’t have been in down the stretch, but based on last few games, I can see why he was.
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 17, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
good hard foul
better than being weak and letting dudes dunk all over you
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
seriously
Does Avery teach the nets to foul lightly so they can always get a 3 point conversion? I mean have you noticed we foul AFTER they get the shot off? I’d almost rather them just let the basket go in. Why can’t we be one of those teams where we have no defensive talent but at least we play hard and foul hard so nobody thinks they can just lay it on us.
agreed
DeShawn needed to send a message, though not to the Clippers, to our own team. they were humiliating us with all those alley oops, and we were letting them walk all over us. DeShawn’s offense is limited but I love having him on the team, if for nothing more than to instill defensive passion into MarShon.
by sheepareevil on Jan 17, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
You can't let them dunk all over you.
I think we did a good job of matching their physicality as best we could…even as the refs punished us for it.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Sheridan's response will be
“despite Otis Smith’s statement that D12’s list has not been extended, source says that Otis SMith has in fact been told the list has been extended to also include Knicks. My source is very reliable and has predicted the sun will come up tomorrow.”
And with that I can hear the entire sports world clicking unfollow on their twitter
Time for Sheridan to find a new job. Don’t be mad….
by SovietBrooklyn on Jan 17, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
you should've been a cop
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 17, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
complacency at work is damaging to the brain -- part II
using a waste basket in the corner break room at work, I’ll shoot used paper towels from the opposite corner of the room — I usually miss. A few minutes ago, I’m in the break room, empty room of course, and I tell myself if I make this shot then D12 is getting traded to the Nets. I MADE THE SHOT!!!
Maybe I'm crazy
But I would not trade Blake Griffin at this point. Not even for Dwight. This kid doesn’t even know how to really play basketball yet – scoring 20 and 10 on pure talent. When he learns how to play he’s going to be a real monster. WHY IN THE WORLD would they give him up.
So here’s my question to you: Your’re the Clippers. The Magic propose:
Clippers Get: Dwight Howard, Turkoglu, Duhon
Magic Get: Blake Griffin, Caron Butler, Ryan Gomes
DO YOU DO IT?
Do you do it?
D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)
by corky_romano4life on Jan 17, 2012 3:46 PM EST reply actions
no, because Dwight wont commit to signing there
and I’m not sure I would deal Blake to begin with
And take on Hedo's contract?
No Way. I wouldn’t do it straight up. Dwight may be a better player right now. But I’ll take the second year stud and his contract over a maxed out Dwight
by SovietBrooklyn on Jan 17, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I was thinking!
In the end, I think Blake will be a better overall player than Dwight because he is a legit offensive threat who can create for himself… not common in a PF.
D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)
by corky_romano4life on Jan 17, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
From Donald Sterlings perspective, Blake Griffin is a gold mine too. He sells tickets. Fans love him
That can’t be understated
On another note
Brook had surgery on 12/23, right? So the most optimistic form of recovery would have him set to return around February 3 (6 weeks)?
D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)
by corky_romano4life on Jan 17, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions
My friend just told me Jordan Williams is headed to Dleague
and the Nets might sign some other D league player named Larry Owens.Anybody know anything about him?
You play to win the game!
by stevieboyNETS on Jan 17, 2012 4:04 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
just another bench warmer i guess
You play to win the game!
by stevieboyNETS on Jan 17, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good call, sir!
Tell your friend Adrian Wojn….err, whatever, tell him he was right! :)
by Brooklyn-Bound on Jan 18, 2012 3:29 AM EST up reply actions
he's a 3
I remember he played for the Spurs at some point, I think last year or the year before. Nets don’t have Damion James and Shawne Williams, so it makes sense.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 17, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yea i just looked him up.He finished last season with the Wizards.
got good size 6-7 210.
You play to win the game!
by stevieboyNETS on Jan 17, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Sheridan wrong again...
…and, in other news, the sun rose in the East.
Man, if there’s a bigger hack out there, posing as a journalist, I haven’t seen him.
Wow ND please attack this clown
his twitter handle is @mattmoorecbs
This is his analysis of the Nets in the latest power ranking:
Brook Lopez could walk through that door and it wouldn’t make any difference. This team is horrid, and Deron Williams knows it.
What ridiculously asinine comment.
Lopez changes EVERYTHING for our team
without him we have zero inside presence and are forced into difficult shots all on the perimeter. It’s one of the dumbest things he could have wrote.
Absolutely Right
When the Nets cant hot outside shots, Lopez isnt there so they have to keep taking those shots.
It's the main reason Dwill is shooting so poorly
defenses focus their attention solely on him. All of our shots come on the perimeter.
Point is
Lopez, MarShon, multiple picks, cap relief > Bynum
Lopez, MarShon, multiple picks, cap relief > Nothing
Those are the ultimatums for the Magic. They need to wake up. Dwight will just come here in FA
by nets14 on Jan 17, 2012 4:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
More like
Lopez, Bogs, multiple picks, cap relief, cash, a mysterious $50 million “investment” from a foreign source…
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, I don't want MarShon to be the deal breaker to get the BEST center in the league.
Anyone besides D-Will are available.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Jan 17, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
You HAVE to try to keep Marshon.
On a rookie contract and lights out scorer = lightens the scoring load off DWill/Dwight with a roster of vet minimums for pennies on the dollar.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Plus
You see two guys of the guys, Deron & Deshawn, who are part of “the bigger picture” talk openly about “the bigger picture” while coaching & mentoring him as if he were meant to be here for the long haul.
You could argue they’re doing that to up his trade value. You could also argue they see how important he can be to a championship team.
Either way, Billy isn’t giving him up without a fight.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
You'd think it would be the 20 ppg borderline all-star 7-footer
bevvy of 1st rounders, and cap space that would be the main reason.
Throw in a couple of pieces and/or add a 3rd team and we keep Marshon.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
If Otis wants Swag
Billy is off the SwagWagon
by nets14 on Jan 17, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly. Rec'd
And those Picks are lottery picks unless we make a HUGE turn around. Not bad.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Jan 17, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but at the time we would already have 25+ losses.
No major turn a round would happen. No playoffs. Still going to be a lottery team because our record in the 1st half would kill us.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Jan 17, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutley.
Even if the Lakers would give them picks, they would be crappy picks like #28 overall, when you could get Top-10 pick from NJ.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Jan 17, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
That's why....
Nets Package >>>> Lakers Package
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Jan 17, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
If they want MarShon
AND multiple FIRST rounders, then Billy King is an awful negotiator.
You’re already sending them two (well, one potential) 20ppg SCORERS (not just shooters).
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Hump getting the cheap shot, Griffin must hate Hump after that DUnk he did over Hump he looked pissed
by RandyOreens on Jan 17, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
lol great pic
You play to win the game!
by stevieboyNETS on Jan 17, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Dwight can sign with the Clips in Free agency
He would rather play with a better point guard (chris paul) and better players around then with dwill
i do not see how we would get dwight if he falls to free agents if this clippers thing is true
If in the offseason, Howard's willing to sign with the Clippers
they can dump DeAndre Jordan to a team below the cap or with a trade exception to make space. It can be done.
people
seem to assume that no one other teams can or will make moves to clear space
this is why I smh when people scoff at the idea of dwight signing anywhere else but here
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
because dumping a $10mil contract like DeAndre is so simple.
He doesn’t want to play for the Clippers. The report was shot down.
If you're a team with cap space or TPE and
you can’t sign anyone or are looking for a missing piece and a team offers you a very athletic center like Jordan so they can sign Howard, are you really going to say no.
Heck if DWill bolts, so there’s cap space and the Clips want to dump Jordan on the Nets, what do you do.
Having cap space doesn't mean a thing
Howard has an extremely small list of teams he wants to play for. The Charlotte Bobcats clearling cap space won’t get them Dwight Howard.
It's the Clippers with Chris Paul, one of his preferred teammates, and Blake Griffin as PF
It’s going to be a very interesting option for Howard if he hits free agency.
Dwight wants to be the man
Blake Griffin is the man for LAC.
Derrick Rose is the man for CHI.
Kobe is the man for LAL.
There’s a reason why Brooklyn and Dwill is the most appealing situation for him. He would be the MAN.
Dwight will still be the man in LAC
It’s Griffin who’ll have to come to terms with him being the other big guy. He’s just been ROY, the other guy’s perennial All-Star and multiple DPOY.
The only obstacle of Howard to the Clippers is that they’re the Clippers. That may be OK with Paul but Dwight? The Nets have been under the shadow of the Knicks but those guys haven’t won anything in recent memory. The Lakers are the most famous franchise in pro basketball. Their shadow looms much much larger. Would Dwight be playing in the same city, in the same arena, as the Lakers while not being part of all that hoopla.
Things change
I’m hoping as anybody he goes to the Nets but let’s be realistic with our competitors for his services
I'll add that if he isn't traded to LAL
then it’s just the Mavs and Nets.
In that case, is there really any question that Dwight would sign anywhere but the Nets?
if it's FA
and Mavs (i’m still doubtful in this, but realize it’s certainly possible) clear the room to sign both Deron and Dwight, to think that Nets are still an obvious choice is delusional thinking.
The reality is, before trade deadline, it’s Nets or Lakers..after trade deadline it’s Nets or Mavs or a surprise team
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 17, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
he won't make it to free agency
Magic aren’t that dumb
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 17, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
I thought so too
but he told them straight up if you don’t trade me I’m gone. Not trading him now will be a costly decision on their part.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 17, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
What's happened to Chris Paul's bone-on-bone condition?
I find it hard to believe it became a non-issue overnight.
Clippers have a suspect foundation, much like the Knicks.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
just wanted to repost this
from the thread where dudes were getting mad at people calling deron on his garbage play:
For everyone saying Deron is uncomfortable because he’s shooting so much
he was averaging 15.2 FGA/game with Utah last year. He’s averaging 15.8 this year. If that is a significant difference in your mind….okay.
The big difference is he got 1.4 points per shot then and only 1.14 this season.
by bus_driver20 on Jan 17, 2012 3:36 PM EST
thoughts?
Thoughts
opposing defenses focus on 1 player on our team every game.
Take a guess who that player is?
It’s hilarious that people are surprised the guys #‘s have dropped. He’s playing with scrubs.
Has he played sub-par? Of course. But killing the guy relentlessly is ridiculous.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 17, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Has he played sub-par? Of course.
Thank you. He’s played like garbage save what, two games? And the game where he really went off, that team was missing Steve Nash
And funny how Outlaw was destroyed on here, yet D-Will gets a pass
D-Will hasn’t done anything in a Nets uniform to deserve this pass. He didn’t want to come here, he is non committal, he looks and plays like he wishes he were elsewhere, etc etc
I don’t get it. He should be held to a higher standard than everyone else, yet he’s off limits. Why? Because he can get Dwight here? allegedly?
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
he's playing with scrubs
and he plays like a scrub
Excuses galore.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
lets be honest
he’s held to a high standard, and he will be criticized as such
he’s playing poorly.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
He's an All-Star who's been playing poorly, as others have before
but he’s not playing like a scrub. He’s bringing 18 and 8 like Chris Paul, who’s playing with a far more talented, injury-free team. Yes, let’s be honest.
yeah lets be honest
Paul is averaging 18ppg on 52% shooting, and is averaging a whole 2 TOs less than D-Will.
LMAO…
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
but here comes
“but his teammates”
his teammates lack of talent have nothing to do with his own garbage shooting, his own poor decisions, and his moiso attitude displayed during the games.
he flat out quit on the Nets until MarShon took the game over in the 3rd. QUIT.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
sometimes it makes you wonder if
utah knew something the rest of the league didn’t about his mental make-up
imagine something extremely witty here
Deron and Dwight would make this team great...
and quite possibly compete for a championship but, one conclusion I take from those first few games is, he’s not Jason Kidd.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
Even if
DWill was shooting a good say 46%, his career average and that of Paul as well, he’ll be averaging just 2-3 points more. Is that enough to cover the point differential in our losses? He’s getting the same 8 assists as Paul with a far inferior cast. Since you already hate DWill, every smile, every frown, every raised finger drives you crazy. Can’t help that.
Now, Chris Paul doesn’t get all the attention, does he. Griffin’s a handful so I heard. And DeAndre Jordan. And Butler. Even Billups, who’s shooting the same rate as DWill. You fail to see that because you want to ignore the ‘teammates’ bit.
This will change when DWill is playing at least with Brook. It’s not even Griffin, Jordan, Butler and Billups, just have Brook back. You’ll see. We saw some of it last year even when he had a broken wrist.
Since you already hate DWill, every smile, every frown, every raised finger drives you crazy. Can’t help that.
lame. Address the points made, otherwise this will turn into something stupid.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
well I answered your points about the teammates thing
you just to ignore it as usual. now, that’s lame.
oh i read them, it was just another way to defer blame for D-Will’s own personal play to his teammates
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Do you know how many assists the Nets scrubs have cost Dwill this season?
I can honestly think of 50 different times where Dwill has set up one of our stiffs for a layup or dunk and they’ve missed.
He’s never had defenses focus solely on him before. It’s an adjustment. It’s also not surprising in the least that his #’s have fallen off.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 17, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You know great PGs make their teammates better
says a lot about D-Will imo when his defenders always blame everyone else except him
what is he not doing that could be done? The team is bad, but he’s a piss poor leader, that’s for sure. He does wonder for morale when he sits there and sulks or gives up on plays
notice that you guys have zero to say about when he gives up on plays. that’s someone else’s fault too right?
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Save your anger
for when Dwight puts on another jersey that isn’t ours. Seriously, take a step back and realize that the only reason Dwight Howard wants to come to the NETS is Deron williams.
If it doesn’t happen and Dwill walks, then scream away. It’s way too early for this.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 17, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
its not way too early for anything
I don’t care if Deron could get Michael Jordan in his prime on this team, his effort is horrible and so is his attitude.
Its just strange to me to protect and defend someone that does not want to be here
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
And the game where he really went off, that team was missing Steve Nash
Because Nash is a lock down defensive minded PG…
by Scooby803 on Jan 17, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And Jeff Teague
is All NBA 1st team, right?
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Playing "sub-par"
and playing “like garbage” are vastly different things.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
LMFAO
Outlaw was destroyed on here, yet D-Will gets a pass
Outlaw’s level of bad and Deron’s level of bed are worlds apart.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
still
its utter and laughable hypocrisy. Outlaw was dissed to the point where it wasn’t even funny after awhile with pictures of crabs flooding every thread, yet when a few fans are pissed that D-Will isn’t delivering the goods its a mortal sin. Ridiculous. Stop treating D-Will like he’s Jesus fricking Christ it looks weak and pathetic.
he is an individual who is playing bad, and you all try to deflect the blame towards his teammates.
it’s his teammates fault when he makes a careless turnover, and gives up on the play? Sure.
I think that you guys are so scared that he’ll leave that you think that some venting from people on a sports blog will really run him out of town. I’m cracking up over here
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying that criticising D-Will is a mortal sin
He’s mostly to blame for how we choked down the stretch against LAC
But let’s speak in relative terms here. His worst is about equal to Devin Harris’ best.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
and that gives him a pass because?
he’s an alleged top 10 player. we traded assets for him. Excusing his play is a bunch of nonsense
if he displayed a good attitude and played hard every game and we still lost I wouldn’t say anything because the effort is there. His effort was garbage yesterday, and garbage the game before.
I can’t support a quitter, sorry. He’s getting torched until he steps it up
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
You are right
Deron doesn’t deserve a pass. The whole team is playing like trash, and Deron is a part of it. With the exception of MarShon, Stevenson and SheWill, the rest of this team at times looks like they have better things to do than to be playing basketball. Heck, add Petro to the list of guys that look like they want to play (he just simply can’t).
The Nets schedule has been brutal to say the least, so I can expect some games like this. But nearly every game, something has to give. And it does need to start with Deron. If he TRULY WANTS TO WIN, then he needs to leave it on the floor for 48mins. It doesn’t matter if those around him suck, he needs to go out and play. Yes, he doesn’t have Brook, or Boozer or Milsap or Jefferson or any other low post presence he’s had in the past, if he is a top 10 star, then adjust his game and play balls out every game.
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 17, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
MarShon, Stevenson and SheWill
These seem to be the only Nets that give a damn. I was happy yesterday when Stevenson spazzed out, at least someone gives a damn
And what kills me about Sheldon is that he’s not very talented at all, but he plays hard.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Shawne has been playing on a broken leg
That explains alot about his poor play but you have to respect his toughness
Life after Dwight
http://www.netsdaily.com/2012/1/17/2713770/life-after-dwight-if-he-is-traded-to-another-team
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 17, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
toughness and stupidity is a fine line
It’s toughness if you play injured and still remain effective.
It’s stupidity if you play injured and shoot 5/50 (not real stats).
playing hard makes up for his lack of talent
some players just have to work harder for it. In Deron’s case, just because you’re a star doesn’t mean you have to stop working. If puts as much effort on the court as he does pouting, then this team will have more fire in them. Look at Kobe, when a teammate makes a mistake, he either get in their ear and encourages or explains it to them, or he gets in their grill and shouts and lets them know. Then he goes out and plays. Not once have I seen Deron do such a thing.
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 17, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
lol you really hate him, don't you
Outlaw the same as DWill? DWill makes mistakes, yes, but you have it figured in your head that he’s Outlaw. Now that is ridiculous and exposes your mind-set on DWill as if it wasn’t already obvious.
by stenpoint on Jan 17, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Outlaw was a Nets player
that got destroyed on here for playing like crap.
Please tell me you’re playing ignorant on purpose, and you really can understand why I brought up Outlaw to the people whining about D-Will getting his back kicked in on here? I’m not comparing their talent or skill level, I’m calling you all a bunch of hypocrites over it.
ANY PLAYER can catch crap for playing bad. D-Will isn’t playing special, so he’s not getting special treatment from me at least. You guys go ahead though, continue to get mad because the worse D-Will plays the worse the response will be.
And its poor form to lose your footing and go for the “oh, you hate him” route. Come on. Your entire response was dishonest as all hell
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not ready to yell "trade Deron!" quite yet
but I agree he’s played like crap and we have every right to call him out, he deserves it.
by sheepareevil on Jan 17, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
The bigger problem to me is the turnovers
He is at 4.3 per game. His shooting % should drop due to defenses keying in on him, but his turnovers should not be so high. His career average is 3.
DWill's average for Utah in recent years was 3.5 TOs
He does get a good amount of turnovers.
But also to put that in context, last year, Westbrook averaged 3.6 TOs, Rondo 3.4, Rose 3.3. CP3 was best last year among the young elite PGs at a mere 2.2. DWill’s current rate is high but hopefully he eventually brings down his TOs to around his Utah average.
Traps / Double-teams
Good looking up the Stats Mr. Dollar Bills. Difference? He was able to get clean shots off in Utah. He isn’t able to do the same with the Nets.
I agree he is playing horribly, and that needs to be addressed. It’s why I haven’t posted any response lately because he does need to be criticized for his lack of shooting %.
However…just to note. Posting once or twice I understand, posting the same message over about Deron in each thread (and I’m not saying this is you) or reposting and saying the same things. It’s a bit much. We all celebrate and/or criticize the team in our own way as fans, but I was hoping it would be less immature and more respectful. But then again I was hoping we would’ve actually won that Utah and Clippers games. We could EASILY won both. Jazz aren’t actually THAT good and Clippers without Paul? We should’ve won.
Both losses I admit were contributed greatly by Dwill.
by Roccor420 on Jan 17, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
when Outlaw/Graham were torched
did you scream about respect? when Lopez was dogged on here after his shoe fell off, were you worried about it being respectful? No, I think not.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Actually Yes
I was. Not that I voiced it for Outlaw and you’re right I’m being hypocritical in that sense. Nor did I voice it for Graham because he was just terrible. However I think we all know that Deron Williams is NOT a stephen graham OR a travis outlaw. he may be playing terribly and not worth the 17 mil max contract player at the MOMENT but grahm/outlaw never had a 35 and 14 peformance nor put up any of the numbers that Deron Williams has THIS season (18 and 8 is still respectable in my opinion, not 17 mil / year respectable but you get my point).
Just saying we disagree on how we go about criticizing a max player or a “superstar” or “allstar” or “star”.
Oh yeah my response above was TO you but not ABOUT you. I actually respect your points because although you tend to be negative you make very good points that I can’t deny or logically fault in a debate.
eh? no i didn't take anything personal
I just totally disagree with you guys on this subject.
Deron should not be put on a pedestal. If he was playing to the best of his ability sure, but clearly he isn’t and its not 100% his teammates fault
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
I will say this
If he played better in the Utah game and Clippers game I’m sure we could’ve won both.
I do agree that he disappeared on BOTH nights as a “leader” for the nets. He needed to step up, especially in the Utah game. Who returns to their hometown of 6 years and shoots 3 for 15? That squad although decent should not have beat us by 13, especially with Harris and Favors playing like crap.
Guess we did win that trade. =) I mean even with Dwill playing like crap, he’s producing more than harris and favors combined.
Anyway, back to the original point, I can only hope that he’ll get better. I am on the team that wants Deron Williams here period. For the next 5 years. Even if we don’t get Dwight. I say that because you’re right, I put Deron on another level because I want another Jason Kidd. If we don’t get Dwight it’s not the end of the world, if Deron leaves us because we don’t get Dwight the image of this franchise is done. For years and years to come. Like I said in an earlier post, the clippers finally got around to building a team the right way through picks and being bad…..it just took them almost a decade. I don’t want to wait 10 years to be proud about the nets.
It’s more than just player output or productivity vs their salary cap or star status. It’s about the franchise. Deron williams to me is our last hope. If he leaves (and in no way does you or anyone posting on this website diminish or lessen his chances of staying, although the direct twitter posts are somewhat childish) then this franchise is done in my mind and I don’t want him to leave.
That is why I’ll give him a break. That is why I’ll let things slide.
if he leaves he leaves
Shameer being a meanie to him on twitter, or me saying that the dude is dogging it will not help or hinder the situation
by MrDollarBills on Jan 17, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know guys, I still don't buy the Magic's Bynum interest & Lopez hate
I think it’s somewhat posturing by their part to try to squeeze more out of us.
Bynum is inarguably better than Lopez, but Lopez is very good and though he finally suffered the first injury of his career, Bynum’s injury history is far SCARIER especially if you compare it to the data on the bigs whose careers have fizzled out after similar struggles in their first 6 seasons.
Bill Simmons did just that, analyzing the careers of all the notable bigs who’ve played in the last 35 years by how many games they played and how many games they missed. The list included Dwight Howard, Karl Malone, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Kevin McHale, Charles Barkley, Dikembe Mutombo… etc you get the idea.
Here’s what he found:
What jumps out? First, the durable guys remained durable throughout their careers, with just one exception: McHale, who ruined the second half of his career by bravely (and some would say foolishly) playing on a broken foot in the 1987 playoffs. Second, anyone who missed more than 80 games and couldn’t play in 90 percent of the games in at least four of their first six seasons went on to have injury-plagued careers. And third, if you can’t stay on the court at your youngest/healthiest/freshest/most energetic, it’s a pretty safe bet that things won’t change as you get older.
It’s straight DNA: Some dudes are structurally built for 82-game NBA seasons, others aren’t. So if you make the argument “If Bynum can stay healthy, he’s a franchise center,” just make sure you also mention that we have 35 years of evidence that there’s a tipping point when “If he can stay healthy …” becomes “… he’s not going to stay healthy.” We’re there with Andrew Bynum. He’s not going to stay healthy. If I were the Lakers, I would trade him right now.
(Actually, what am I saying? They should definitely keep him! The guy is built like solid oak!)
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/110217
Are you really trading your franchise player for one of the least durable bigs in recent memory not named Greg Oden? And nothing else? Bad draft picks? Lord knows they’re not getting Gasol with him.
Plus, Bynum expires after next year. What if he doesn’t want to re-up either?
And let's not discount how much the Magic fanbase would crucify them
For sending “another Shaq” to the Lakers, especially if the big trade asset they get turns into one big medical bill.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
After his incredible start, Bynum's luster has faded a bit
He’s still at 16 and 14 but that won’t be enough for a straight-up Howard for Bynum, a good thing as LA’s been very hesitant to deal both Bynum and Gasol.
for those who think OKC would trade Westbrick for Deron
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_kendrick_perkins_thunder_celtics_nba_011712
Thunder GM Sam Presti wouldn’t consider a Westbrook deal for Chris Paul, so why would he entertain a Rondo deal? Westbrook’s relationships with coach Scott Brooks and Durant have had their moments, but the young point guard’s rapidly become a top-10 player in the NBA. Presti and assistant GM Troy Weaver drafted him fourth overall, when no one else in the league would’ve done that. They discovered him, raised him and they think they’ll win titles with him.
the notion is silly
a 12-2 team is gonna break up what’s worked great so far for a guy shooting 35% and averaging 4 turnovers? sounds legit
by sheepareevil on Jan 17, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
exactly, once
you become a very good team in the league you focus within and try to do all the things bad teams/constantly changing teams can’t do: i.e. become perfect at all of the minatuae of the game- setting picks, spacing, ball movement, pacing, confidence in know where your teammates will be, cohesion off the court. next level stuff.
i’m dying to be able to see the nets get to this level one day
imagine something extremely witty here
Gotta stay positive about the team
If we dont d12 we just have to suck it up and deal with. We all have to unstand that d-will wants to win now and is looking for a playoff team. I think we still have a bright future ahead. We have draft picks and assets, you never know who may come up. Example MarShon.
Dre Day all day
YOUTH MOVEMENT IS BACK!!!!
I will be ok with Dwill leaving. If Dwight wants to come here, He would have to come this off season.
I DONT WANT TO TRADE ANY THING TO ORL.
There is a saying I live by
YOU SNOOZE YOU LOSE!!! We tried to get Dwight before but ORL wanted to be MOISOs.
OH WELL.
Not saying this is what I want, but if we had to trade DWill,
I’d prefer Rondo or Rubio to Westbrook. Russel is a first class prima donna.
As far as Deron goes, his play has been terrible inefficient. Say what you will about double teams, scrub teammates etc. but there’s other ways to contribute. Get on the floor for loose balls, box out like your life depends on it, be the first one back on D. None of which Deron is doing. We were spoiled for years because JKidd was a player who would literally doing everything he could to win. Oh and check the rosters he had to work with. Take KMart and Lopez out of the equation, and I think it’s safe to say the rest of the roster is comparable.
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What I wouldn't give for it to be '03 again
by NJ4Life on Jan 17, 2012 5:38 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Boston would do Rondo for DWill
But you’ll also be saying goodbye to Howard. And Rondo would be double-teamed here too. Rubio’s probably untouchable, he’s too promising.
But KMart was part of the equation. And Lopez right now isn’t. That’s not hypothetical, that’s reality.
If Lopez was playing and it was the same, we’re losing and DWill’s playing badly, you’ve got a point. But last year we saw what it could be with him and Lopez together, with an injured wrist to boot. The situation should change when Lopez is back or we trade for that other guy.
You know what
I think I would rather Rondo too.
I had to actually turned to a Passing PG.
Rubio would be another perfect choice but I really doubt Minn sends him. His Agent would have to have force the issue. Too late for that.
Just to point out:
Richard Jefferson – much better talent in basketball than anyone we have minus lopez and brooks.
Kerry Kittles – while he played he also was a much better basketball player than what we have on the roster.
Aaron Williams – not the best scorer in the world but down low physical presence (I didn’t say post)
Jason Collins – I can’t believe i’m writing this, I hated jason collins but he was our big man and did his job. We won many games because of his efforts, not necessarily on the offensive end.
Kittles was a great defender and good shooter
so is Deshawn. RJ was a good defender and athlete, so is DJ. Aaron williams and Shelden Williams are the same player. Collins was an excellent defender, then again the Finals Nets never had a scorer of MarShon caliber, who can create his own shot at will.
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
What I wouldn't give for it to be '03 again
someone needs to invent a time machine
so we can transport Marshon and Lopez back to 2002.
by sheepareevil on Jan 17, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Not to nitpick
Deshwawn and Kittles I’ll agree although Deshawn stat wise is a much better 3 point shooter. Richard Jefferson and Damion James? I’d have to disagree. RJ was an offensive threat, slasher, high flyer and occasional 3 point shooter with great physicality. Damion James is…well…damion james. Great physical defensive presence but offensive black hole. It’s not a fluke that we scored 100+ games the second he came off our rotation due to his foot injury. Aaron Williams and Shelden Williams is roughly the same player theoretically, but Aaron Williams physical presence was unmistakable. Dude was like 250 with 1 % body fat. Solid Muscle. Shelden…not so much.
The only thing the 2000 – 2002 nets that went to the finals didn’t have was a low post scoring big man, ie. Brook Lopez.
That’s why it’s my belief that without Dwight, we still have a chance to compete as long as we keep Deron. WIthout Deron…..it’s back to the drawing board.
someone needs to invent a time machine
so we can transport Marshon and Lopez back to 2002.
by sheepareevil on Jan 17, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Add to that that Kidd Era didn't have Lebron, Dwade, D-Rose in his conference.
The next best point guard in the East was light years away from Kidd.
Not so much on D-Will’s case. Take it easy dude ….better days are coming!
I just saw a tabloid magazine at the store and it had a picture of Hump on the cover with the quote "I will destroy Kim..."
It made me laugh out loud
hahahqa Sheridan must be getting blasted by fans
Chris Sheridan @sheridanhoops
3m
Let me clarify something, even though it was clearly stated in yesterday’s story: #Clippers are on D.Howard’s wish list, not trade list.
i don’t even feel sorry for him
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 17, 2012 5:55 PM EST reply actions
WTF does that even mean?
Dwight wishes he was on the Clippers, but doesn’t have him on the list of teams that he is open to being traded to?
So basically it makes NO difference?
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
What a hit whore
Trying desperately to get those page views.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 17, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS
But it’s provocative
IT GETS THE PEOPLE GOING
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
what she order?
#MarSwag9
buck fitches.
by "NetsNation" on Jan 17, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
He has said
that the way he’d get to the Clippers is a sign-and-trade deal, presumably with Jordan going to Orlando.
NetsDaily.com
smh
I google “los angeles clippers” as a lazy way to get to their wikipedia page, the top article is an SB Nation report on that bogus Sheriden Dwight Howard piece. how this guy manages to have his crap spread despite no credibility whatsoever is beyond me.
He got fired from ESPN
And he was wrong at almost every turn during the lockout. He’s a joke.
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What did he get fired for?
Life after Dwight
http://www.netsdaily.com/2012/1/17/2713770/life-after-dwight-if-he-is-traded-to-another-team
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 17, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
I remember
He sued, or had threatened to sue Vecsey of the Post for libel because of some angry article Vecsey had written about Sheridan’s reporting of the Melodrama. Then he left ESPN to found his own website, but I hadn’t heard his departure was a firing.
Instead of trading for Mayo we should try to get Anthony Randolph from Minny
He is a RFA after this year just like Mayo.
Minny desperatly needs a SG.
Minny already has Love, Beasley, Derrick Williams and Wes Johnson for their fowards.
Randolph has played well when given minutes.
Life after Dwight
http://www.netsdaily.com/2012/1/17/2713770/life-after-dwight-if-he-is-traded-to-another-team
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 17, 2012 6:27 PM EST reply actions
LOL I wouldnt go as far to say HOF talent but he can score inside
We need a post presence
Life after Dwight
http://www.netsdaily.com/2012/1/17/2713770/life-after-dwight-if-he-is-traded-to-another-team
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 17, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Something I need help with
Many say that in the Nets offer they can give Magic cap relief, but how is that?
One of the reasons Nets wanted the deal done early was because they could absorb Hedo’s contract.
IMO, That no longer exists. Hedo and Dwight combine is 29mil
Obviously the Nets will need to involve another team to make salaries work, but will the Nets be able to send out enough salary to take in both Hedo and Dwight (since I doubt any team involved will want Hedo)
Humphries can veto a trade…so who does that leave
Lopez, Okur, Farmar, Morrow, Petro, is only $25mil That’s 4 big pieces for Dwight and Hedo’s ugly contract. But still missing $$$ to match. Add $3million cash and the picks, maybe gets it done.
I guess I just don’t see the point of taking on Hedo’s contract when one can do Lopez/Okur/Petro/Farmar + picks for Dwight
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 17, 2012 6:27 PM EST reply actions
Expiring contracts
The Nets will have paid the majority of them by the trade deadline, and this summer all those disappear.
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billy rt'd this
@bkdefend billy can i get a rite back if u will make a deal or deals by trade deadline?
Of course he will make a deal, that is a given.
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You know I love Wilbon and Tony (to some extent)
But I found it pathetic how they ran with this clipper story on around the horn, and Tony said he gave it a 50% chance of it happening, and Wilbon chimed in saying that they would trade Deandre to Orlando
Seriously isn’t ESPN supposed to be a sports network, you know, with experts?
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shameful
and laughable. i don’t even know what to say anymore. i stopped watching anything ESPN related (aside from NBA broadcasts which I suffer through) a while ago
by sheepareevil on Jan 17, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
I enjoy around the horn and PTI but it is laughable how uninformed they are when it comes to anything re the Nets
Man I wish we would have been in Brooklyn already
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nets future
If i was billy king i would trade d’will and move on with the young talent they currently have.
its not Blueprint Greatness, its Blueprint OKC.
Players to build around
Marshon Brooks, Brook Lopez, Anthony Morrow
too late for that now
we arent getting any good value for a rental D-Will and we already traded a top 5 pick from last year and traded a potential young stud PF in Favors. that ship has sailed. for now we are all in on Dwight
On topic and hilarious
quotes from Chris Sheridans legal complaints against Peter Vecsey for trolling him in The Post
58. Mr. Sheridan has suffered emotional distress and mental suffering as a result of Mr. Vecsey’s Libelous Article.
6. The ordinary reader would believe that Mr. Sheridan had fabricated news in derogation of all known journalistic principles. Indeed, one reader commented “Wow just read the Vecsey piece in full he literally just took a hot steaming you know what on top of Chris Sheridan’s head.” …
57. Mr. Sheridan has suffered damage to his personal and professional reputation as a result of Mr. Vecsey’s Libelous Article.
http://deadspin.com/5812589/the-chris-sheridan+peter-vecsey-blood-feud-enters-court-hilariously
I guess this is what got Sheridan fired from ESPN. Sheridan’s career is a joke.
by William_H_HOLLA on Jan 17, 2012 7:02 PM EST reply actions
Looks like SteveBoyNets was right
ESPNSteinLine Just going up online: Sources say Nets in process of calling up Tulsa 66ers forward Larry Owens from D-League. ESPN link on way
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Here
My friend just told me Jordan Williams is headed to Dleague
and the Nets might sign some other D league player named Larry Owens.Anybody know anything about him?
You play to win the game!
by stevieboyNETS on Jan 17, 2012 1:04 PM PST reply actions
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Someone sign SteveBoyNets as NetsDaily Insider
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He's the new Woj!!
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Who was that
Never heard of DeAndre Jordan before. He looked good. We could use him
Sleeper team
We’ve all heard the usual suspects: Nets, Lakers & Mavs. We’ve heard some chatter about the Bulls or Clippers sniffing around. There is another team that scares me though, especially via the free agency route. That team is the Boston Celtics. Their payroll is very light for next year, with only Pierce & Rondo making significant money. Teams are rumored to already be calling Boston waiting for them to blow things up. By simply trading one of Pierce or Rondo for an expiring deal (both guys have very tradable contracts), the Celtics would have the ability to sign both Howard & DWill. At a minimum they’ll already have the cap space to sign Howard.
The Celtics are a storied franchise in a big market, who feasibly could reload in one offseason fielding a new big 3 of Howard, DWill & Pierce.
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