Reports: O.J. Mayo Talks Not Dead; Nets Offer Morrow or Farmar, Pick
by Net Income on Jan 15, 2012 9:14 AM EST
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PrintThe Memphis Commercial Appeal and New York Post report the Nets and Grizzlies have discussed two possible trade scenarios that would bring O.J. Mayo to New Jersey ... and their motivation is at least partly about clearing more cap space for a Dwight Howard deal down the line.
While Adrian Wojnarowski reported earlier in the week that a deal was unlikely, Ron Tillery writes out of Memphis that, "both scenarios are there for the taking if the Grizzlies want to pull the trigger, according to the sources." Fred Kerber reports that his sources tell him the opposite, writing, "the Nets could do a deal if they wanted".
In one scenario, the Nets would send Anthony Morrow to Memphis in a straight-up deal while in the other, the Nets would send out Jordan Farmar, an unspecified draft pick and cash considerations. Both deals would save the Grizzlies money. Whoever controls Mayo's rights as of January 25 can offer him a contract extension.
- Grizzlies talking to Nets about O.J. Mayo trade - Ron Tillery - Memphis Commercial Appeal
- Nets in hunt for Mayo: sources - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- Nets, Grizzlies continuing pursuit of Mayo trade - Matt Moore - NBC Sports
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Morrow's better Mayo's stats are down in every category.
If it’s for Farmar it’s a good deal for the Nets this season.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Mayos stats are down because his minutes are down because he is too similar to Gay, so coach likes having Tony Allen, a role player, diversify the lineup. Mayo is a victum of not being as good as Rudy Gay. I can live with that.
Check out Mayos starters stats if you are that interested in stats.
"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"
Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...
Mayo is a starting SG talent, avg 18 in his rookie year starting
clearing Farmar or Morro for next season is additional $4mil in capspace, mind you Mayo is a RFA so there would be a caphold unless we renounce, obviously wouldnt do that though unless space is needed for D12 and cant dump someone else, but this gives King more flexibility
by Henry Sanchez on Jan 14, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
I beleive OJ can be special with a fresh start.
He wasn’t born for “off the bench” role.
by Belarus4life on Jan 14, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
how does Farmar deal NOT benefit us?
Farmar is like a much worse version of NateRob
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by letsoreeni on Jan 14, 2012 11:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
no way
NAte was crazy, never passed. Farmar knows how to pass. just makes bad decisions sometimes
sucks that this leaked
feel for Morrow… and Farmar I guess
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by letsoreeni on Jan 14, 2012 11:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Ammo is ready, he said so.
He’s got a good understanding on how things roll, just as Lopez does. Farmar’s being silently displeased with his current role, and I guess he assumes that pulling a Devin Harris (who scored a wonderful 2 points last night) could save his career. Which it might, or might not. But either way, both are prepared to leave.
I’m happy with Morrow, but imagine all the great food references we could make with OJ joining the team.
by Brooklyn-Bound on Jan 15, 2012 4:13 AM EST up reply actions
I have an autographed OJ bottle and Mayo bottle of his
He laughed when I asked him to sign
by rotoreuter48 on Jan 15, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
i hope Farmar + pick happens
even if its Morrow id still be happy but obviously would rather keep him
Billy King
STILL clearing up cap space for Howard, love it.
Get it done.
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Farmar, please not Morrow.
Farmar has been solid the last couple of games, but for all we know, he could still be unhappy with his role. Gaines could do a solid job as backup PG in the mean time, and if we get Dwight, Arenas may be on his way as well to take Farmar’s role.
billy will get this done
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Billy has made his offer according to the report...its up to memphis to accept one of the two offers now..
BK did his part..now we sit back and wait to see if they bite.
The question is...
Would this stunt MarShon’s growth, or would Avery play the two together like he does with MarShon/Morrow now?
Think it might get done incase we have to give up Marshon or OJ to Orlando along with Lopez and pick
Thats why Farmar has played more
by RandyOreens on Jan 14, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
couldn't trade OJ to Orlando
cannot be traded for 60 days
it wouldn't affect MarShon at all
it’ll be exactly the same as it is now, just substitute Mayo. And if Orlando decides to trade D12, he’ll be the Nets 2 guard of the future since Brooks will be headed to Orlando.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 15, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Need to do something
Need more players and less specialists.
I cant take much more of this.
Pound the rock for 20 secs and pass for a corner 3.
We need mayo or another triple threat guy thatbcan create and play D.
by Sukka on Jan 14, 2012 11:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Im with you.
I want to start winning games. We need to to keep same for Tebow sake.
"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"
Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...
Ok, NetIncome, we obvioulsy see what this trade would do good for the Nets
But what would Grizzs gain besides cap relief? And why would they want to lose OJ Mayo, young player with unrealized potential?
Grizz need a shooter or they could get a pick with Farmar
It has seemed unlikely they’ll keep Mayo so might as well get something for him.
Grizzlies are broke, memphis the city is broke
Oj Mayo has a 7.3 million QO next year and his new deal will put the Grizzlies way over the luxury tax line, something they cannot afford unless they win 3 titles in 5 years
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 14, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
memphis has a lot of $ committed to people and won’t be able to pay mayo. morrow/farmar are under contract for next season. So this is them saying let’s get something for a guy leaving anyway. If its Farmar for Mayo i like it both ways. Morrow for Mayo I like, but less
story says Morrow is good shooter
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a team that has finished in the bottom 5 of 3 point % the last 3 or so years would like to have
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 15, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Bad team player as above
Doubtful they keep Mayo, financing is stuff and they have given big contracts to Gasol, Z Bo and Gay. They won’t be retaining Mayo this summer. He doesn’t add enough to their team for the money he will get considering their finances.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
this is what i love about Billy
he sees a problem, he looks for a role player to fix it, mayo will be a great pickup and a good trade chip (who knows we might be able to keep him)! also he probably said “take either one or leave it” which is awesom
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at this point i think we can all agree that Farmar has quietly become a cancer on the team
and that he has pretty much peaked as an inconsistent chucking backup point guard
Oj can play point against other second units.
like tonight how many plays were busted because of Farmar? even last year he used to pound the ball to death and then took a bad shot or made a bad decision. He has some type of jealousy/animosity towards Marshon because no one should choose to feed Petro over Marshon?
and the talk about wanting to be a starter? who does he think he fooling? You couldnt even outplay Derek Fisher after he came back to LA.
Gaines may force shots but he’s forcing layups and he tries to execute proper ball movement and he tries 100%. He doesnt sulk or cry to the coach after he doesnt get the ball his first game after not playing for 4 games
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 14, 2012 11:56 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
she got a sister, lol just playin
no i’m serious, we arent blind. if you seriously have watched farmar on the nets you see the team pretty much falls apart when he is on the floor unless he is on fire and draining those bad jumpers he likes to take.
Yeah he can go off for 20 and 12 but his 40% FG and per 36 5.0 assists suggests it wont happen often
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 15, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
a ridiculous argument
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yea ur right: DWon't is the cancer on the team
DWill oop to D12
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pleeaasseeeeeeee happen
Killer B’s have to get this done
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by JerseysFinest. on Jan 14, 2012 11:57 PM EST reply actions
isn't getting a big man #1 priority?
Didn’t anyone notice how Jefferson and milsap were manhandleing the nets in the pain tonight? We need a real big man.
by tategeorge on Jan 14, 2012 11:59 PM EST via Android app reply actions
we have one on the way
this is more about cap than anything, i believe
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 15, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
It's a priority, but we have to take what we can get - creat our our own team strength.
In this case, with Mayo, it would be our guard rotation, having 3 guards who can get own shot, pass and play some D. And in Dwght scenario, if one goes, we’re still left with a pretty good in place, not just a one dimensional player who would be great off the bench but had to sart for lack of players.
Don't really know how I feel about this.
Guess Marshon will be seeing a lot of minutes at the 3. I’m assuming Mayo would just be a trade chip for Dwight or insurance if Brooks is dealt.
A trio of D Will/Mayo/Dwight sounds pretty good to me. Even though I’d like to try to find any way to keep Marshon.
Most players dont miss when they are hot or else they would be cold
He has a 7-1 wingspan and averaged 7.1 rebounds in the Big East. He will be one of the top players when we look back on this draft 3 years from now. DWILL-of-the-GODZ June 3, 2010
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 15, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Farmar...not even close
Morrow would be missed. Think about Farmar and Gaines, is that they both think they are great and IGNORE MarShon all the time, it’s actually annoying. Trade Farmar for him
Maybe I've been wrong all these weeks
Farmar and a pick can get us something.
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the deal hasn't happened yet
let’s see if it goes down first
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 15, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
January 15th...
I’m pretty sure if Mayo were to be included in a Dwight deal he’d have to be dealt (by 12:00 tomorrow, the 16th) so I’m guessing there will be a sense of urgency to get a deal done today, because we need everyone possible for a Dwight deal
i think Monday
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offices closed Monday right
so deal wouldnt be finalized until Tuesday? If that happened would he still make the deadline for being able to be traded again in the season?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 15, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think he'd be in the deal
theres no way Orlando is getting him AND Brooks. I know it’s D12, but Otis better not play that.
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by JerseysFinest. on Jan 15, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Started a topic on RealGM asking if Shumpert is the worst player in the NBA.
No Knicks fans have shown up yet, surprising considering so many of them were saying how Shump was a HOF lock just last week.
that should anger NET fans
who know that title rightfully belongs to Petro
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by calling all toasters on Jan 15, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Would love to see that happen but
they traded their guards for a big from philly in that 3 way trade. I doubt they are lookin to give away any size with Randolph sidelined. This trade benefits them because it gives them backcourt depth and is financially a good move for the future
by bettacalltyrone on Jan 15, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Brooks, Morrow, and Mayo? Along with #8
Mayo better come with a second basketball
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Mr. Corner three
is it really that hard to get a good SF? We’re stacked at G’s already
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
maybe nets are planning on keeping brooks at the 3
by netsyankees4life on Jan 15, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Rather well
defense doesn’t matter to this team, especially if they can’t score
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
makes sense
but only when compared to moving Deron to the 2
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by calling all toasters on Jan 15, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
interesting thought
since they won’t have Shawne and DJ for the foreseeable future, it would be good to add solid scoring and defense at the 2. Really hope this happens.
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by JerseysFinest. on Jan 15, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
The only problem I see is Brooks and Mayo
Morrow doesn’t really need the ball, he just stands around and waits for him to be open for a 3.
But I don’t really see Brooks and Mayo needing the ball, especially if MarShon is getting doubled now
actually the less the ball is in Morrow's hands the better
and think. Brooks and deron can work together. Mayo will have the green light with the second unit, d-steve dont need the ball in his hands either
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 15, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Morrow is the best shooter out of them all
and the best player to have when driving to the rim. I’ve never liked Mayo, but things can’t get any worse, rather well trade for him.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
c'mon we know Morrow has a decent floater
but asking him to do anything but catch and shoot unless its a backdoor cut is a turnover waiting to happen
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 15, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Great teams need an Ammo far more than a Mayo
Its just that with this current roster, we are horrible and Ammo’s role is expanded to a point where he doesnt have the skillset.
Yes, Mayo can create better than Ammo but he is never going to carry a team with his skill set. He is akin to an average to below average team. Good enough to play but never will be good enough to dominate.
If this team truly gets DH, Ammo is a much better fit.
Of course I’m not sure how things would shake out but Marshon seems better with a higher ceiling that Mayo.
Also, where is this defense I keep seeing you all write about with Mayo? He is far from a solid defender. Better than Morrow, yes. Solid? I don’t see it.
How things would shake out
in terms of whether Marshon is traded if Dwight comes.
Won't be surprised if they take Morrow, need the shooting.
That still leaves us with Farmar and a pick to maybe try getting a Delfino or Donte Green
OJ can play some point right?
If that’s true, then i would much rather do the farmar trade. somehow, i feel that our offense would get worse w/o morrow, even though all he does is spot up and shoot.
if this happens
we better not give up a pick in this draft
Rockets aren't making playoffs
so the pick will be 2013
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how much will Orlando value that pick though?
i don’t know how much of a risk this would be in terms of getting Dwight
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 15, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
its lottery protected till 2016
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can the rockets make the playoffs this year?
what about the next 3 years?
I dont think so.
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yes i understand that...
i’m just worried at how much the Magic might want that pick. it’s obvious it won’t be for this year but with Otis at the helm, who knows what they’re thinking
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 15, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldnt be so certain
It’s early in the season, dalembert is starting to play well and lowry/Martin is one of the best back courts in the game. They also have a ton of assets.
Lakers
Clippers
Mavs
Spurs
Okc
Are locks
Denver
Portland
Memphis
Are the next tier, and then Houston and Utah. An injury or shakeup to one of those teams and Houston is in. Memphis is shaky with no randolph, Denver is over achieving as is Utah and Portland seemingly has an injury curse. Houston could easily sneak in.
Thus I would not trade that pick… Nor would Memphis probably want the extra salary potentially for next season.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 3:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Tthis is a very good trade for the nets either way
but if the Grizz take farmar this will solidify our team’s depth, while we keep the deadliest 3pt shooter in the rotation and on top of that making our team better if dwight gets traded here…either brooks or mayo would go in that deal.
oj can score and run in the break along with brooks making our current terrible transition game, in my mind, significantly better.
For Farmar?
Is Billy using trade override on NBA2k12?
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by phatman00 on Jan 15, 2012 12:12 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
if you love him so much then why don't you marry him
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by phatman00 on Jan 15, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
how was that not a travel on bynum?
anyone else see that?
by netsyankees4life on Jan 15, 2012 12:13 AM EST reply actions
OT but that picture: Brockness monster(who has a crazy burger dedicated to him) and the best fade in the game
back when the Maloofs half-cared
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 15, 2012 12:14 AM EST reply actions
it makes sense for memphis, even for farmar
they can’t pay mayo, and are shallow at the guards: but are incredible upfront and at the 3 (they need guards)
-trading mayo for farmar at least lets them have farmar for 2 years. they can’t pay mayo and will lose him anyway. if they lose mayo, they won’t have anything but the 2.5 mini midlevel: do u get a backup guard better than farmar for that?
They could just pass the ball to Marshon.
by Clayton Balch on Jan 15, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
that hurts Farmar ego too much
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 15, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
not to mention the fact
that because Mayo is so skilled offensively, Deron can create a lot of different opportunities for him to score.
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by JerseysFinest. on Jan 15, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
OJ is a slasher type, something we need badly, especially when we start bricking shots
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He is? LMAO
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
lol
i believer Shameer1016’s point is mayo is not the answer – and he’s not. we’re not gonna set the nba on fire because of this possible deal
but i believe the deal makes us better without hurting our future – so i like it
OJ Mayo actually adds talent to this team
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OJ Mayo adds another shoot
and another Guard. But I see the plan here. Put as many 3 point shooters on the floor so you have more chances of making them. Its crystal clear now. Can Hump shoot a 3? Rasheed is next on the list.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
mayo more scorer than shooter
which is something we can use
That is false
That man is more of a shooter than a scorer. If he was really more or a scorer, there is not one team that wouldn’t want him.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
OJ is a scorer
Like Swag. We need more scoring, period.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
I actually watch the Grizz play
they are one of my 5 teams i picked from broadband…. OJ is a legit NBA player. He needs a fresh start though and he is definitely more than a shooter.
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Look at his 3FGA, Usage%, Overall %, and overall numbers
this guy is a dud that loves to shoot.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
-_- Yes to Farmar, No to Morrow
if we trade Morrow, I’m going off on Billy on Twitter Andres B style
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
im lukewarm on morrow
like id do mayo for morrow but its close, id be very torn
id do farmar in a second
I'm still high on Morrow
he does his job, but was in a slump to start of this season. Not much of a scorer, but still points up and is deadly from the 3. We trade him, we lose our zone buster.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
that's true
morrow is a knockdown shooter. really only struggles when the spacing is bad b/c no room to get the 3’s off. would be unreal on a team like miami which we want here
In short terms, Zone buster
the ideal player to have with a good low post scorer or a player that draws double teams.
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def prefer getting rid of farmar
morrow’s value to the team will grow too as we get back Lopez
by giantsnetsmets on Jan 15, 2012 2:38 AM EST up reply actions
wtf
I was like..i posted that?? Haha
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I have been trying to change my name for a while.
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No.
It’s just an incredibly simple name.
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holy cow
you guys are tripping me out right now
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lol yup
when i read your post, i was like Did i? was i half asleep? i dont remember lol i had to post just to make sure it wasnt me.
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What a way
to indirectly diss many here including myself.
But who cares? its a poster name for a team fansite. Doesnt require an intricate nombre.
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 15, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
yes
too often deron or marshon sometimes attack, get doubled, ball gets passed out, and the guy who gets it, if they’re not wide open for a shot, just stops. we need a guy who makes plays off the dribble. that’s mayo: not farmar/morrow.
memphis needs a guard that justifies dealing mayo given their finances: essentially a guard worth more than 2.5 mill a season (all they’d have in FA): that’s morrow/farmar
win-win
if their finances were that big of an issue
they can easily find a team to dump him onto. They probably finally came to the realization he isn’t going to bring in much, and he probably wants out. As long as they get something useful, they’re probably satisfied.
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by JerseysFinest. on Jan 15, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
have you seen him play in HS?
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by JerseysFinest. on Jan 15, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
he was pretty amazing.
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by JerseysFinest. on Jan 15, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Remember when there was a
“Baby Jordan” at USC? I think the guy is a cop now…
the rockets pick:
not THAT valuable. they ain’t making this year’s playoffs, and generally seem to be spinning their wheels. i don’t think sacrificing that in the farmar (or morrow) swap for mayo is going to hurt our chances for a dwight deal
I would do it in a heartbeat
O.J.’s the better player than both Farmar and Morrow now and in the longterm. He needs to get out of Memphis in order to show what he can really do.
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by JerseysFinest. on Jan 15, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
i'd do morrow also
but i like it A LOT less. i LOVE farmar for mayo. i like, lukewarmingly, morrow for mayo
unless its with our pick this year, or next year
you do it yea
if this happens
at least if the deron and dwight thing blows up in our faces we will have nice young potential star talent…..brooks lopez mayo barnes/davis….
by netsyankees4life on Jan 15, 2012 12:25 AM EST reply actions
so I am told...
while the Memphis paper reports its up to the Grizzlies, one of the local papers will report the reverse, that it’s up to the Nets.
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up to the nets?
so another paper will say memphis offered mayo for farmar pick and put onus on us?
yup
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THAT'S INSANE
come on billy! OJ MAYO>FARMAR
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do you do it?
100% i do farmar + that rocket pick for OJ
hell yes
we will never be able to use that rocket pick since they will not smell the playoffs for the next few years. then it turns into two 2nd rounders.. lol OJ Mayo is 23 and was the 3rd pick of the draft. averaged 18ppg for 2 years … lol we NEED TALENT NAO.
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by Claud on Jan 15, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I can understand BK hesitant about Mayo for Morrow+pick
DWill oop to D12
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Nets are interested though correct?
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by JerseysFinest. on Jan 15, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
I would hope they're interested
This team makes me cry
by sipitioking on Jan 15, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
told not talking...that the offer is there.
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well whomever the decision is up to
I hope they pull the trigger
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by JerseysFinest. on Jan 15, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
up to us? pull the damn trigger BK
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I'm not really sure when he said this
but I’m pretty sure Jay-Z said he likes O.J. also. I think around draft time, I’ll try to find an actual source on it.
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by JerseysFinest. on Jan 15, 2012 12:32 AM EST reply actions
The Rocket pick may not be valuable this year but it has potential.
I can see the rockets making a #8 seed in the next couple of years and I actually wouldn’t rule them out this year.
They lack a bigman but they do have talent there, Lowry is a beast.
They are shopping mayo because they don’t want to pay him, they’re just trying to get something out of him not necessarily full value not to mention that the rumors about him bring his stock down, otherwise he wouldn’t be there any more.
I hope the pick is 2nd round
hopefully this is done by next week
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by NetsDynasty on Jan 15, 2012 12:36 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Lol dwight
DwightHoward Dwight Howard
How is World Peace gonna start a FIGHT lol.
no way he goes to LA now
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
Dwill/Gaines/ call up d leaguer
OJ Mayo/Morrow
Marshon/Stevenson/James
Hump/Shelden
Okur/Petro
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i know why nets fans are annoyed
competitors have their roster set, roll with it
rebuilding teams roll with their kids
teams everyone knows are not good, well yea
then there’s us: we r 100% unique and in limbo
OT
My cousin [OJ Mayo] Said he wants this trade done now
how is it OT
If it involves Mayo. If he is your cousin is the real question.
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by BEB on Jan 15, 2012 12:43 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Its the Dwightmare
Of course if DH ends up here it will be worth it….wont it?
D Will in 2011...BK in 2012....
Chris Paul is RIDICULOUS
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He keeps bailing out the Clippers dumb decisions and he always seems to play good on the big stage. Not saying he’s better than #8 though.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
8 loves what?
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
nothing sad about it
3-4 years ago Chris Paul was playing at Lebron, MJ, Kareem, levels in terms of PER
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 15, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
I don't use PER or +/-
I don’t think it tells the whole story. My biggest stat, is usage%
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del negro is an atrocious coach
there are coaches that are tougher on losing teams i agree – but del negro is not the guy
no Vinny is horrible
You’re overreacting Randy.
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When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Maybe I am, I just dont like Avery at all..he knows zero offense and our defense is the worst in the league..and his excuses get old
by RandyOreens on Jan 15, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
the team sucks
Get better players the coach looks better. Nobody was complaining about Avery last night bc they won.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
So lets talk playoffs again
how many games are we out of now? and lets pretend there are no other teams in front of us again.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Fantastic
now how many teams are in front of us? 5 you say? It doesn’t matter, we’re the Nets, we only see what we want.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
i agree the current group ain't a playoff team
but 10 expiring deals. they set it up to be all about next yr (or march 16 on)
we have an outside shot at the playoffs
but highly unlikely, agreed.
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How far outside are we talking?
and if we make the playoffs, I will give majority here what they want, and ban myself from this site
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
Joke of the Night
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
Mayo would be a nice pickup. I prefer the Farmar deal.
Deron
Mayo
Marshon
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Eventually Brook
Solid
Bench
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yeah and comes off the books this summer too.
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I would't trade Morrow for OJ Mayo
If Dwight is coming we need great shooters to spread the floor.
Brooklyn we go hard...
and Morrow plays zero defense he wouldnt be starting for us with Dwight
by RandyOreens on Jan 15, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
I hope you're drunk this is pathetic
Anthony Sorrow…
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by universal on Jan 15, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He's too similar to MarShon
Brooklyn we go hard...
by Fabio Villani on Jan 15, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
he is in Turkey
JamesOn Curry is the Armor PG
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I thought their was a guy that briefly played in the preseason with us that is now in our D-league
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JameSon Curry i believe
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 15, 2012 11:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
no we would not
Mayo can play the point if needed.
by bettacalltyrone on Jan 15, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
the clips are too athletic for us
They will run laps around us
I hope dwill has a good night and our shots drop because the clippers have everything we don’t have.
the 1 edge we have
deron LOVES beating cp3. you know he has that one circles
lol he will be even more grumpy if we lose that one
can’t wait to see his face
by sipitioking on Jan 15, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
No no no
tides have turned now. Its D-Willz now that has the burden of carrying a bad team :-).
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
that's a good point
deron had better teams than cp3 for a while, not anymore. but i still prefer him b/c of his size
He is pretty chubby
not my style though
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
At this point I would trade Morrow for a chair......I'd rather keep Farmar....
So say we get Mayo…….If we get DHoward as a free agent does that mean we can still keep our draft pick…??…..That will be a very ggod lottery pick……The I say we trade Lopez for another Lottery pick……So we would have DHoward , DWill , Mayo , Brooks , Hump , TWO GREAT LOTTERY PICKS……It’s like rebuilding and still having a nice veteran team , right…..????
the rockets pick is protected so it can't be a lottery one for us
only way we get to use it this year or for the next few years is if rockets make the playoffs
I meant to keep our pick if we can get DHoward as a free agent instead of trading it to Orlando.....
its just a risk
because if dallas can maneuver to the point that they can sign both, we will lose
i say if the deal is sitting there u HAVE to pull trigger
I would only offer a second rounder and some cash considerations.
If we got Mayo, would we try to resign him to a longer term deal?
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to be fair
the clippers are clearly not the same team this season
they were a wreck at that point
it was Griffins 12th game, Baron Davis and Chris kaman were injured
Eric Bledsoe
Eric Gordon
Aminu
Griffin
Jordan
is what i think the starting lineup was. That could’ve been mistaken for a college roster last year. with only foye, gomes, cook, diogu off the bench
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 15, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
@ Net Income
So your sources claim that the Nets have been offered OJ Mayo for Farmar + Pick? And the deal is ready pending Nets’ approval?
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 15, 2012 12:56 AM EST reply actions
CP3 groaning right now
looks like he hurt his hamstring. Can lightning strike twice and take out another good PG for the Nets to play against?
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doesnt matter
billups will step in and kill the nets
by NJ Champ on Jan 15, 2012 1:04 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
kobe is 2 away from 40.... again
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paul wasn't in NO
because he was like screw it im not vested i aint winning with these guys…ull see deron doing more of those things (he does some) when our personnel improves
yea he was
you don’t take that Hornets team of last year to the playoffs by dogging it.
by sheepareevil on Jan 15, 2012 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
no way they take petro
i mean if they do i salute billy bigtime. and laugh at memphis.
Knowing former Nets players
Petro might thrive in Memphis lol
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look at that
another 40 point game for Kobe
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Wrong team to chuck against
40 with a L. And not the good type of L
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Wrong team to chuck against
40 with a L. And not the good type of L
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
LOL
at least prove me wrong buddy. I called it out since yesterday that he if chucks against a good team, they would lose.
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how about giving the Clippers credit
They’re just a better team than the Lakers the dynasty is over.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
what part of
chuck against a good team did you not understand?
Good teams=Clippers
Chuck=taking 36% of your team shots not including usage%
Comprende homes?
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yeah I understand but don't agree
Kobe has been shooting the majority of his team’s shots for years.
The team is built around HIM he doesn’t have to give anyone else more than a handful of touches.
You don’t like him shooting so much but he’s great at it.
Would it make any sense for MJ to let Scottie be a bigger part of the offense? No he was the dominant force on those Bulls.
Kobe’s just like Jordan in that way. The franchise had to chose between him and Shaq bc the two could not mesh. One would have to back down and Kobe refused to.
He’s not built to share the spotlight.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
He's not good at it, his team is just that good that he can get away with it
I’ve seen Kobe loses so many games because of his selfish play and chuck mode. Great individual performance, but if he continues, his team will suffer. His Usage% as of now is higher than Jordans ever was, and even then Jordan was a 50%+ shooter. I called it out yesterday, the obvious, if he chucks against a good team, he would lose. You take the good with the bad, if he wants to take a lot of shots and not get his bigs involved, he sure as hell better put up a lot of points. I never liked him before, and I hate him even more now since you made be bring up more points about his game lol
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LMBAO
“Yo this guy on the internet, hahahahah…wait wait he said Kobe Bryant is not good at scoring…. his team is just soooooo good he can get away with it.”
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by universal on Jan 15, 2012 2:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
SMH
Give most SG in this league 30 shots, you will be astonished if you think I’m wrong for my statement.
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I know it just sounded funny
I see what you’re saying.
The Lakers could be better if Kobe shot less but we’ll never know.
It is what it is.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Actually we do know that
when he wants to be a passer, the Lakers look unstoppable. Its a luxury to play with good players on a good team and still have the balls to take 30 shots.
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he doesn't do it all the time
Sometimes he takes 30 shots sometimes he passes.
He’s proving to anyone that doubted that nothing can stop him.
The guy’s psycho competitive.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
He's on a mission, I'll give him that
but he’s always had the luxury so many great player never had and it irks me the way he plays.
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Nice lol
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Phil and Kobe fueded many times in the past
b/c Kobe would just jack up shots all game long without even trying to involve his teammates. Phil isn’t around anymore to put Kobe in his place
yea cause knick fans suck
loved amare so much last year now want to buy his plane ticket to orlando
Kobe doesn't use Bynum or gasol... hes got 40 but he just keeps shooting
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OMG My point exactly
he doesn’t get other involved when he takes 30+ shots, which kills his team.
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OMG My point exactly
he doesn’t get other involved when he takes 30+ shots, which kills his team.
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the thing is
right or wrong the respect level nba guys have for kobe is incredibly high
Read below my fellow Nets brothers
40% usage rate should be illegal
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on offense its basically let kobe shoot and the rest crash the boards... lol
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LOL, but he's killing his team
SMH, Kobe homers are having a field week, not even a day. I know the guy is a SG, but he takes it to the max and beyond.
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Dear God, this man usage rate is new Super Saiyen level this season
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html
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This is a basketball team
Deron Williams | Jordan Farmar | Sundiata Gaines
Marshon Brooks | O.J. Mayo
Deshawn Stevenson | Damion James | Shawne Williams
Kris Humphries | Shelden Williams
Brook Lopez | Memet Okur
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
word
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Only one problem
Deron Williams | Jordan Farmar | Sundiata Gaines
Marshon Brooks | O.J. Mayo
Deshawn Stevenson | Damion James | Shawne Williams
Kris Humphries | Shelden Williams
Brook Lopez | Memet Okur
He has a 7-1 wingspan and averaged 7.1 rebounds in the Big East. He will be one of the top players when we look back on this draft 3 years from now. DWILL-of-the-GODZ June 3, 2010
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Mayo would start over Brooks
and Stevenson vs SF will be funnier than Petro running a fast break
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Stevenson guards Anthony and James well
if he guards them well
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
SMH, sure lets go with that again
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haha yea
tonight: 16 mins no points
season: shooting under 30%
miami game: lebron TORCHED him
stevenson sucks
he is only good at fouling and bullying players
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That man was the only guy in the NBA who could break ankles on the defensive end
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I think OJ should start
he just operates much better as a starter… provided MarShon will get his minutes
I would just start a smaller lineup.
Deron
Mayo
Marshon
Hump
Brook or Okur until then.
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It would have to be only in certain situations. He would also have to add some muscle.
The key is that they both get about 30 minutes a game.
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I am surprised he is getting even 12 with kobe shooting EVERYTHING
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shaq resents the brooklyn move
as a newark kid
How can you hate that man?
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I don't care for players like Shaq or coaches like Phil Jackson.....
If they are so great than why didn’t they go to crappy teams and try to make them better instead of going to teams that already have superstars on them….????
tell Shaq to buy out the arena
and sure, we’ll stay in Newark!
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 15, 2012 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
Shaq should've went to the Nets
and played with Kidd if he really cared
man that would have been great...
multiple championships
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I'd take a vintage Kidd and Shaq
over Deron and DHoward honestly
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well yeah obviously
Shaq is one of the greatest, most dominant big men ever. and Kidd in his prime made this team a contender
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Shaq hates on everything that he's not apart of
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When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
He's automatic from 15 feet away lol
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he is actually shooting better than okur
lol smh
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haha i hope
but i also hope for $ to grow on trees
I would advise everyone to go on Petros website
Its quite amusing
i want petro to drop 25
and see if he gives us the sasha vujacic line (i can drop 25 anytime i want)
really tailed off after the good start.
he’s not what we need another shooter that can’t guard anyone.
morrow is clutch also: hits a lot of 4th Q threes
Petro shoots 90% of the time or else he makes a very complicated bounce pass
"Beware the Ides of March."
Did you see him on the break tonight?
Man looked better than #8
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 15, 2012 1:26 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
Taking shots at lopez
11.4 – Johan’s average of rebounds per 48 minutes, 3.3 more than teammate Brook Lopez
i dont even know how to respond to this, this team is in so much dysfunction right now its unbelievable all the junk that spews up
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 15, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
I'd so make either of those trades
Mayo has potential, and has proven he can play on both sides of the ball
BTW I’m killing it in the comments section of a Bleacher Reports article, it’ll be cool if someone else shows the Nets some love
Believing the Bleacher Report is like believing me
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Well it's great this deal aint dead
Grizz just cant offer OJ a new contract. OJ is way better player on both ends of the floor and last years playoffs showed me he got heart to beat on other teams
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 15, 2012 1:30 AM EST reply actions
If we can get Mayo, that would give us three scorers that can create until Brook gets back.
Marshon, Deron and Mayo can get to the basket. We can use that third scorer and a good defender as well.
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The problem is Humphries plays better with Lopez
but they is an adjustment period the WHOLE team will need along with Lopez when he comes back.
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It means that the Brooks will be sold Orlando. I don't think that the Brooks and Mayo can be in a place.
I don't speak English
for all the people believing dwight articles out there
you’ll find hoards of articles putting lebron in cleveland or chicago, putting paul in new york
totally different
Lebron never requested a trade, or said he wanted out
and Paul wanted to go to a team that had NOTHING to trade and didn’t have anywhere near enough cap room to sign him. It would be like Dwight asking for a max deal to play with Lebron, Wade, and Bosh in Miami
Nice lineup until we get a sf.
Deron
Mayo
Marshon
Hump
Brook
I would love to keep both Mayo and Marshon.
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lol... net fans
Always 4 steps ahead of reality
Never heard of it
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well good news for tonight is
CP might be out vs Nets
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 15, 2012 1:37 AM EST reply actions
He might also be in vs Nets too
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we'll find out tommorow for sure
with hemi you never know
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 15, 2012 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
I think he's out as well
D-Willz better abuse, baptize, and son Billups Monday
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LAC might be asking themselves
do we really need him to play? do we really risk him further injury? against “Nets”?
Haha Well...We'll only lose by 12 now.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"I’m anxious to see if they make the same mistake twice." - Shaq talking about the Magic.
i hope we will just keep it close till 4th q
than maybe there’s a chance. Hump did pretty good vs BG
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 15, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
It's gonna be a task. That's all I'm saying.
They have way more options this year than they did last time we played.
well beside BG clippers dont like to run just like Nets
and thats big, we have seen tonight what athletic teams do to us
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 15, 2012 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
Jordan improved a lot so it might be too big of one-two punch front court for Hump to handle
Not at all counting on Sheldon and Petro
Its going to be a party Monday afternoon
a Block Party at the Staple Center, and the Nets are invited.
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At least they have a pass to shoot alot this time
Go up against BG and Jordan is not advised unless your a real crafty scorer.
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In perfect scenario, Marshon and Deron both drive in a lot and get them both in foul trouble early in the game
and I win the MegaMillion AND the PowerBall
And Kobe shoots 30 more shots
Oh wait, that might actually happen
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long jumpers lead to long rebounds {gulp}
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Ah, learned from watching Kobe?
LMAO
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its all about the D
we can score. even tonight with dead legs we can break 90. gotta not surrender 54%
90 is very low in today's NBA
I’ve seen teams put up 90 before the 4th quarter. This team is poor on both sides of the floor, and even more horrendous when they aren’t hitting there 3’s.
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Trust me, I was being modest
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Isn't the league avg about 95?
24 New Jersey 91.25
25 Boston 90.6
26 Charlotte 89.25
27 Toronto 88
28 New Orleans 86.46
29 Detroit 84.92
30 Washington 84.09
What a trend there
All good teams
See my point? lol
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I can see what you mean
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aint only D
teams shut us down at will, watch end of the 2q and 4q we cant move ball at all. Contested jump shots only
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 15, 2012 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
that'll happen with no inside presence
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 15, 2012 1:57 AM EST up reply actions
you right
but still who on this team can create his own shot or put 20 p every game? not counting D Will and Swag
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 15, 2012 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
yup i agree
and yet we still run plays for… Petro? while Swag is on the bench? Avery doesn’t know how to use his toys… i’d be throwing Brooks out there all the time just to watch him for fun
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 15, 2012 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
Our main defensive downfall is the pick and roll game
Our guys are getting stuck on screens, not rotating well, etc. which is leading to these open jumpers and uncontested layups
He didn't need to practice
King needed to find better teammates for that man. He’s one of a handful of players that have the right to chuck. Kings is really bad when finding talent, really good when signing minimum wage NBA players.
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LOL
A+ for usage
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i just traded josh and two first rounders for amare in 2k12
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My favorite comeback lol
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Computer is beyond stupid in 2K12
Do any garbage trade and ask for their 1st rounders. They just give em to you so often. I can take any garbage team to Finals after 3 seasons.
yet during the draft
team offer me pick 7 for my pick 5 AND pick 12
I hope 2k12 QA team at least make sure that the game “make sense”
I would love to have both Marshon and Mayo going forward. Our back court would be set for years if we resign Deron.
Just need a good sf.
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He's going to want to start
you guys hyped him up, now hype him down as a bench player.
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I never hyped him up. I just saw this as a potential great pick up.
…and last time I checked, he doesn’t have control over that if the team would flourish better with him, the first man coming off the bench.
Unless we have a super legit 2
I just think OJ operates much better as a starter. Marshon might be more deserving but if not starting will affect OJ a lot and Marshon not so much, team is better off with OJ starting
Agreed. Mayo off the bench, but, still getting 30 minutes a night. Sometimes on the court the same time as Marshon.
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haha you got some balls
i would never do it, but to each his own i guess
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 15, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
I love this guy
We trade The Brooks
Bold statement for a guy that doesn’t speak English
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what?
why? any team that that wants to make playeoffs have atleast 2-3 20 ppg. how many we got?
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 15, 2012 2:07 AM EST up reply actions
any contending team has 20 point banch scorer
Mavs got Terry Blazers got J Cross, even Miami has either LBJ or Wade with banch players at all times. cant trade good players it’s better to trade Shawn Ammo Farmar Petro
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 15, 2012 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
im glad i didnt see this game
I did a 50th BDay party tonite. The cougars were all over me
Did Devin Dominate Deron? 3-15? Disgusting
Devin won by far lol
2 points 6 assist, 0 TO, and 2 steals. MVP numbers right there
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jeez really?
Shoooting a lot of jumpers I guess..
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 15, 2012 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
I'm surprised Devin didn't chuck
I thought he would want to go off on his old team.
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he was more of a pure point
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Maybe tonight
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hmmm
Wanted to show us he’s not the same out of control player he once was?
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Probably, but he averaged like 21-8 his AS year
and we broke records the follow year. Damn, we were good
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Then what for to us Mayo? Brooks should play a lot of time and receive many shots. In the presence of Mayo it will be not possible. They copy each other.
I don't speak English
because they both can shoot off the dribble? thats not copying each other? Nets havent had a guy who can shoot off drible since VC
by RandyOreens on Jan 15, 2012 2:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Petro
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Outlaw
Oh, does shooting off the dribbles also means making the shot as well?
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And if we give Farmar. What do we do with SG? Майо, Morrow, Brooks, Stevenson. You don’t consider it too much. How to divide time. All of them need time and shots except for Stevenson.
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listen we need 2 players that create for themselfs and others at all time's
have you seen how teams play us for last 2 years Double either B Lo or D Will and we finished. Morrow cant drible Farmar turns the ball over and over, yes i’ll take both OJ and Swag so they can make D Will’s life a lot easier
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 15, 2012 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
I don't get how any of us resist OJ Mayo
given the price. But then everyone’s entitled to their opinion… But then really?!
OK I’m gonna stop contradicting myself LOL
Someone wanna tell me how Petro had 3 assist tonight? lol
filled the box score tonight with 4-4-3-1-1
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Memphis has no plans of resigning him long term so they might as well get a cheaper shooter like Morrow or a solid shooting pg like Farmar.
It would be a good deal for us regardless.
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it works out both ways
can undestand why it’s not a done deal yet
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 15, 2012 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
I hope its the Farmar one
Even though he’s one of the few on this team who plays with energy
garbage time energy mostly
means nothing
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 15, 2012 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
this is probably the wrong attitude but
F it. We have been barely competitive, lets shake things up. Trade for Mayo, sign Rasheed Wallace… what’s allen iverson doing?
definitely kidding about that last one.
A great deal if it's for Farmar and future considerations
Mayo gives us an all-around player on the perimeter.
Once the trade deadline comes, the Nets can tell the Magic you can pick between Mayo and Brooks. Collecting assets for the future (trade for Howard) and helping the team immediately.
The Nets need to acquire Mayo on the 15th in order to trade him for Dwight, right? Or what’s the deadline for that?
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In short term
they have to get him today, if they want to trade him.
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so do you think it still happens
if it doesnt get done today?
Kings seems like he wants him
if there still disscussing it, but King might be low balling if anything. Lets not forget this was the guy that was in charge or completing a team with Allen Iverson, and failed miserably to do so. Hope they give up Farmar instead of Morrow though.
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I suppose
It either gets done today or work in a 3 team trade later if the Dwight trade were to happen and OJ is still available then?
I think Mayo can get traded anytime..
In a one for one swap. Maybe for Reddick or g.Davis if that is a side deal in a bigger trade. I don’t think he would be able to be included in a package with other players for 60 days.
Anyone know when 60 days prior to March 15 is?
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which I guess is too late
For him to be retraded in a package deal since the league office isn’t open until Tuesday I assume.
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No, we would trade him to or
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Orlando later on potentially
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Duhon
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As long as its a low pick.
I presume its secound round they want first rounders for any Dwight deal. Don’t like the Morrow trade I’d like to keep Morrow. Farmar meh not too bad, nets get their cap space and get a decent player for a while with the possibilty to do something with his rights. I mean we probably don’t plan on retaining Mayo nor do Memphis but someone else is going to extend an offer that we won’t want to and if Dwight hits FA he’s outta here. I think we can get more for Morrow then a salary dump. Not to concerend with Farmar. If that the best we can do, want the cap space, problem here is Mayo is player some teams would value but the nets may be treating this just as a rental to get cap space which means we trade assets for what their worth but really get nothing in return.
Other than that don’t really see where Mayo fits in the lineup, Morrow and Brooks if neither get movedd is solid at the two. Mayo is two small to play the three.
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if the grizz take farmar and the pick
i’d be pretty happy. mayo can play d and create his own shot and he can even play a little pg.
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Placing mayo on this roster would be a very good upgrade...
We need more players who can create their own shot and has athleticism. Our team is so limited…
Haha it's funny
I remember I bought up this very same trade scenarios over the past year and most of you on here wanted to have me burned for blasphemy haha!
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On another note... People said Kobe was done...
ESPN put him as the 7th best player in the league and i knew that would make him mad. 4 straight 40 point games. I don’t care how old he is. Kobe is still the best player in the league…
by aug93 on Jan 15, 2012 6:21 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Are Knicks proof that building teams with stars and trading all depth doesnt work too well and the Heat are the exception
or do the Knicks just have the wrong stars??
One can argue either way. The Heat have 2 of the 5 best players in the NBA.. they have 2 instant offense guys… so if one is down, the other can pick it up. The Knicks were clearly a better team before they acquired Carmelo. Losing Chandler, Gallo, Felton has hurt them a lot.
Hopefully King has learned something from the Knicks. If we trade every asset, it could spell trouble. While Howard is a top 5 player and instant offense… Deron is not. On nights when Dwight is in foul trouble.. with Deron and 3 other bodies that could be quite problematic
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Knicks have no PG
they are poorly coached, and their starting PF cannot be bothered to defend or rebound
and I agree whole heartedly. We’ll need a scorer from the wing if we pair up Deron and Dwight
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 6:24 AM EST up reply actions
Keeping a Mayo or Brooks is a necessity
if we get Howard. Likely we would trade our pick, Brooks, and Lopez. Unrealistic to think we could keep any of those.
Still fear that Howard/DWill/Mayo/Hedo/? isn enough to really compete. If we trade many picks it could spell trouble
The Knicks, who may not even make the lottery, have no 2012 pick this year (top 5 protected to Houston)
EXCELLENT POINT!!!
When Boston traded for KG and Ray Allen, even they did nit give away every asset. They kept their 2 young, up and coming players in perkins and rondo. Miami is the exception because Lebron and Wade are both great. They are both top 3 players in the league. They are both better than Howard and dwill. Giving up too much for Howard would hurt the nets chances to win a title…
We would only be selling out the arena in brooklyn
If a move like this goes down (and i dont think it will)
say farmar and the pick for mayo, i hope that it doesnt stunt marshons growth. Avery has never been big on playing rookies, if we have mayo, morrow and brooks someone will be the odd man out….unless avery keeps playing marshon at the 3
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 8:12 AM EST reply actions
Morrow = Korver
And really shouldn’t be playing more than 20mins a game. Brooks would clearly continue to play the 3 IMO….
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Brooks is a small forward
as Hollinger wrote this week, he may be 6;5" from head to toe, but he’s 7’1" from finger tip to finger tip and in this league, that’s average for a POWER FORWARD.
Two other points: The Nets could trade Mayo, an expiring deal with a qualifying offer; straight up for Duhon who was two years left, and could trade Okur straight up for Turkoglu, who has two years left. Trades can be broken down into individual deals and done sequentially to work things within the CBA.
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How would we match Dwight's salary?
If we do okur for Turkoglu and mayo for Duhon, I don’t think we have enough left to match Dwights 18m or so in salary.
Also now that we are over the cap I think we are back to the 125% rule in trades not 150%.
I guess it wouldn’t matter though since okur will be eligible to be traded in tandem with others by the trade deadline.
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We are still a little under the cap I thought?
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wing span does not a small forward make
especially when physically he would be manhandled trying to defend Lebron or Carmelo.
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how many times will that happen
and who has guarded those guys well?
He is the equivalent of a 6’8" SF. a thin one, but his wingspan and handsize are huge…biggest ever recorded at Pre-Draft camp for someone under 6’6".
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He is a 6’5 SG, just because he has long arms doesn’t mean that he is an SF.
The team did such a piss poor job at putting someone that can at least play NBA Basketball at SF on the roster that they’re forced to play this kid out of position. It is what it is, as long as he’s on the floor it really doesn’t matter though but I’d prefer not to have him going head on against SFs that are twice his size
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I agree with NI
Brooks is a SF. He plays more like a SF then a SG. Although he gives up size as a SF he also has a huge advantage vs bigger SF on offense. It goes both ways.
He has a 7-1 wingspan and averaged 7.1 rebounds in the Big East. He will be one of the top players when we look back on this draft 3 years from now. DWILL-of-the-GODZ June 3, 2010
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 15, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
come on Brooks is not a small forward he's thin as a toothpick
He had trouble against the big guards Raja Bell and CJ Miles.
If the plan is for him to play out of position it will either shake his confidence or he’ll get injured.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Nah brooks is a two
Maybe if he bulked up he be a 3 as he’d be better able to defend big guys, but he’d still be a 2 imo.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Mayo shouldn't stunt Marshon's growth
because Marshon will continue playing SF. After all, with James out and Shawne crap, we really only have Stevenson there who’s also mediocre. If it’s only Farmar we lost, Avery can’t start Mayo and Morrow together.
I thought Marshon at the start he would be too thin to play SF, and he probably still is against the really big SFs of which there are few, but he has held his own against most SFs due to his length.
it only gets rougher and rougher
@LAC – loss
vs GS – win (being generous)
vs OKC – loss
vs CHA – win
@ CHI – loss
@ Philly – loss
@ CLE – loss
vs TOR – win
@ IND – loss
6-16 end of the month…….and that’s being generous
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 8:27 AM EST reply actions
we can also beat CLE
as we should have the last time
7-15
oh wait you said win for there
nvm
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Beware the Lopez
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Clippers may not have Paul
So that would be winnable as is the Cleveland game.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 9:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
There are no given games for any teams, good or bad.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
Follow @Meer2Fly16
One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
Farmar + picks
the greatest combo another team can have
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
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by netsareboss on Jan 15, 2012 8:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
so Mayo could just be trade bait for Orlando. or, he could be the Brooks replacement, who you know would have to go to Orlando. If we can keep Morrow as a bench player by trading Farmar for OJ..
what a steal. and Dwight will get his wish, to play with Morrow.
after the trip, a deal will be done.
I’m almost sure of this.
BTW, slightly OT
But these issues Shawne have sound preexisting. Did we knowingly sign damaged goods? Did our med staff mess up? Or is there a chance we can void his contract if he withheld information. It looks like we are stuck with him next year otherwise as he will not opt out. I know we can stretch amnesty him, but id rather be able to get rid if him 100%
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 9:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Similarly,
THese issues of Deron being a terrible defender, a turnover machine and a crappy leader may have been preexisting. Is there a chance our FO messed up? Can we void his contract b/c he’s damaged goods? Technically he didn’t reveal to us that he had a heart problem.
they are NOT dead
it is NOT fair to say. The two sides have laid out what they want and it is now up to them to make a deal or not. That is NOT dead, as both stories report.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 15, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
To get someone defensive minded who can create his own shot and ADD him
to Declown Williams would give us at least one defensive minded guard.
<blockquoteBut one source said there wasn’t anything "right now" but that the Nets could do a deal if they wanted. The Commercial Appeal said it the other way that the decision was in the hands of the Grizzlies.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/nets/deron_returns_to_utah_deaBD4lr4Wgu5bZNhEhBsK#ixzz1jXK06LCb
>
who knows what to believe….either way get it done!
"Beware the Ides of March."
I would never trade Morrow for Mayo
Especially when we are trying to get Dwight. I dont think some of you realize how valuable a pure shooter like Morrow is if we have Dwight, or even when Lopez is back.
The guy is shooting like 50% from 3, and is clutch as well during the 4th quarter. He’s the one person I am confident in making that 3pt shot when the game is on the line.
I wouldn’t mind trading Farmar for Mayo though.
JKidd Era 2! Starring D.Williams as the lead actor, Avery Johnson as Byron Scott, and Player X as Player Y.
Let the show begin!
But you also need to realize how many points Morrow costs the Nets on the defensive side.
If Mayo is really on the block….Memphis looking pretty bad for rejecting Pacers’ McRoberts+Rush offer.
"Beware the Ides of March."
they didnt reject it, i thought it didnt get done in time before the deadline?
#MarSwag9
buck fitches.
by "NetsNation" on Jan 15, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
true
and Ammo has found his shot again
Thing is, even with Dwight here we will need another perimeter player that can score. Obviously, when the burden is on Deron he falters, so we’ll need a wing scorer
this stinks that the Magic killed the earlier deal, we would have Deron, Dwight, and Marshon as our main guys.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Marshon is not a lock to be traded.
Its may be very likely but we can always hope. Thats is Dwight gets traded which is again very likely.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
I'm pretty sure that he
will be included in Orlando’s demands
if they trade howard at all
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
As an overrall player Mayo might be better. I don’t see him play all that muc. But Morrow is a one of the best 3 point shooters in the nba and would have great value if this team were to get the players it wants. Mayo would be a rental and likely be on more money next year he’s a rental/ salary dump if all goes to plan. Wouldn’t want to trade Morrow and his good contract for that.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
If either of these deals are on the table
The Nets should have done them yesterday.
They are awful. Not even competitive. They need to start making moves.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jan 15, 2012 9:52 AM EST reply actions
Agree
It’s been over 10 games and nearly 1/5 of a shortened season. We know where we struggle and what we need.
Mayo could help this team and he’s another asset but we really need help at SF. Brooks is more of a SG with both his size/weight and style of play. And while he is a good rebounder for a guard, I think we have been getting crushed on the boards since he’s been starting there.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 9:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
In reference to our rebounding..
This is where we miss having a great rebounder like James is for a SF.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 10:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not that bad. If we trade Farmar and pick.
PG- Deron/Gaines
SG- Brooks/Morrow/DeShawn
SF- Mayo/James/Sha Williams
PF- Kris Hump./Shel Williams
C- Brook/Petro
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
How Mayo will play against LeBron or Djurant?
I don't speak English
by RussianNets on Jan 15, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Nets don't need to be concerned...
with those guys this season with or without Dwight. Nets are going to be competing for a championship this year…it’s all about next season and beyond.
by BKNfastbreak on Jan 15, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
does it matter?
It’s all about Brooklyn. Either mayo or brooks won’t be here if we get dwight.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 10:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
yea but...
it matters because it may make facilitating a deal easier…id say any deal that makes us a better team, and improves our trade assets, without hurting the product in the long term, matters and is good
Mayo has expiring contract. How many he will ask money? I think we can't give that that he wants.
I don't speak English
by RussianNets on Jan 15, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Mayo will be in demand
And probably get 7m or so. Thing is he will either be traded to Orlando, or if dwight is not traded he will be renounced for cap space. If we trade for dwight and keep mayo then we could keep him as we would have his rights.
Deron
Mayo / Stevenson
Turkoglu / d.James
Humphries / Jordan w.
Dwight / petro
Would likley be our team if we trade for dwight and keep mayo.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 10:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
wont happen
that’s OUTLAW money
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
too high or too low?
Players get paid, esp. Those with potential.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 11:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was wondering this...
if Nets trade for Howard…Deron & Howard will opt out this summer to resign their 5 year contracts. Nets can keep Mayo’s cap hold?…and match any offers he gets this summer?
Would the Nets be able to hold Hump’s bird rights this summer AND resign Mayo?
by BKNfastbreak on Jan 15, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
"Dwight / Petro"
That would be the greatest gap in talent between starter and back-up in the entire history of pro basketball. Howard out, Petro in, man that would really something.
I'll take that team. Turk is playing pretty well this year - scoring and passing.
If Farmar is traded for Mayo – then Ammo and Marsh are still around – would leave us with a shot creator and sharp shooter or two shot creatos. Either way, it’s good.
You can include Duhon behind Deron and Petro will probably go back to Orlando – think that was part of the deal originally.
If we receive Mayo the day after tomorrow then Brooks will be included in Howard trade
I don't speak English
by RussianNets on Jan 15, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
no
Nets could break the trade into pieces: Okur for Turkoglu and Mayo for Duhon. Two one on one deals that save the Magic more than $30 million.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
The Nets need to sweep in with a Phil Jackson sized godfather offer
What’s taking the Bulls so long to say that they’re going to pick up the option on Tom Thibodeau’s contract for next season? According to team sources, last year’s Coach of the Year is not very happy that the team hasn’t discussed his future. Nor should he be
I hire him asap if the bulls screw up with him
Bulls have become an elite defensive team under his tutelage.
With Avery, the Nets defense is just putrid. Talent be damned, there is no excuse for the garbage that goes on night in, night out. Especially with his zone scheme
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
i'd prefer to just kick avery to the curb
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
yes
i agree with that, but that does not change the fact that this team is poorly coached.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
bulls also love not paying high profile coaches
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 15, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Trade Morrow....NO WAY!
I want to keep Morrow. I would trade Farmar and Petro and a second round pick and cash, and an autographed naked picture of Irena for OJ.
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
This is hilarious
I’ve been saying for probably the past year and a half that i want OJ Mayo. I always got shot down and crucified like it was the worst idea that’s ever come across NetsDaily. Now everyone is all for it because it’s in the News? lol comical…..
I think people are all for it
because they are desperate right now. The team is unwatchable.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
that's because the Nets are a chaotic mess
people hate to hear it, may cuss at me over it, but its true. We are a mess.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
No one hates to hear it, we know it
There is no conspiracy
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 10:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
haha
M I K E lost his cool last night over my commentary, I hope he’ll be alright.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
it does get old
Remember our bet? I was gonna ask u to see if you could go a week without being constantly negative. Lol
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 10:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
how does the current situation
get old?
Sorry Jack, I’ll speak my opinion at the time. If the Nets give me reason to be positive, I definitely will. You guys who get pissed only focus on what you want to focus on, CLEARLY you ignore when I’m constantly praising MarShon, Deshawn Stevenson, saying stuff like Sheldon Williams is not THAT bad of a player he just shouldn’t be starting, giving Ammo props for finding his shot again, etc etc
That stuff just goes right over your head, huh dude? But if I say the truth, this team stinks, this franchise is a joke, ALL TRUTHS, I’m constantly negative. Whatever
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
yes it gets old
Like I said it gets old, overly dramatic and seems like a shtick, but someone has to do it I guess.
And the constant insulting of and generalizations about the fan base on here is always what I’ve had issue with. As though we’re not bright enough to realize the mess we have. We’re all entitled to our opinions and see what we see. Again, you don’t realize youre not the persecuted one, you like to persecute, whether you will admit it or not.
If you’ll notice, many people don’t disagree with what you have to say… Including me.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 11:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
In fact ..
I think you echo what many us think MDB, and very often see and say things before others see it or want to say it. I agree with you on probably 80% of what you say.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 11:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And the constant insulting of and generalizations about the fan base on here is always what I’ve had issue with.
Really? Net Income is notorious for this, yet I never see you going at his head about it.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
well, it is true
that the Nets have never been able to generate enough of a fan base in New Jersey to sustain a profitable enterprise and veteran players have said the same thing.
Kidd has said on several occasions that the Nets could never attract fans while he was here. Dooling said that the home fan base was the worst he had encountered and he played for the Clippers.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
no he was gone before that he came Kidd's last year i beleive
and played here until VC’s last year
so even when the team was a stuck in the mud playoff also-ran he said the fans were worse than the fans of the franchise with the worst winning percentage and 4 playoff appearnces in nearly 30 years.
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 15, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
dont even remember him being there
i just remember Rafer crying the whole season and Quinn going from victory cigar to spot-starter in about 2 months
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 15, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Rafer was traded dring the season
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Oh truely, but GOD aren't we used to that by now...?
What I think is funny is that someone a few days ago… may have been you… had a great post about what ‘always happens to the NETS’ as the desperation sets in and we scramble for a stop-gap player, only to continue our mediocrity.
Well… here we go.
Of course- I do think that the outcome will be different this time. That’s my disease.
LETS GO NETS!
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
I'm not sure it was me
I have been kicking in this franchise’s teeth in lately though, so probably.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Same here. Last season I has suggested the same exact trade, either Morrow or Farmar for Mayo, and many were against it.
Desperate times calls for ………… desperate change of minds -lol.
Did you guys catch 8 clappin and keeping his 'body language' right as the clock ticked down?
This deal is ON.
The Farmer and a late pick for The Condiment.
LETS DO THIS.
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
he'd better do that
because he shot poorly last night. Maybe he realizes now he can’t carry on like that when his play has been garbage for the most part
he did get to the line 10 times though, so its not a lack of effort.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
I know, I know.... I tossed the remote last night watching replays....
I think he shot 20%?
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
I was flipping in between the Broncos/Pats and the Nets game
every time i watched he was either bricking shots or turning the ball over
rough saturday for Deron and Tim Tebow eh?
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
He just takes bad, impulsive, emotional shots sometimes
He jacks up, bricks, makes the same mistake Swag makes and runs in for his own rebound to recover, gets beat, is trapped in the trees, the pass leaks out, they hit in transition, he’s pissed, runs down the floor, you can see him thinking I’m going to have to do this myself, meanwhile its his fault he tanked the last play, he takes the ball down the court and jacks up another shot… repeat.
He needs to grow up out of that ish.
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
totally agree
great post. This is why I got heated at the fact that the dude was out there acting like that when he needs to step it up.
I really, REALLY hope that all he needs is Dwight Howard to fix him because he has not been that great in a Nets uni. I still give him credit though, I’m not sure how he manages to get 8 asts per game with this group
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
He averaged what, like 12 last year?
Thanks to Brook. This roster is better than last years…. With brook.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 11:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hatin' on Farmar
I don’t understand why so many people put down Farmar. He’s a backup PG: he’s not supposed to be the second coming of Steve Nash. He’s a good backup PG – possibly even a very good one. He’s got a PER of 21.65. That being said, I’d rather trade a backup PG who plays 16 minutes than a starting SG (who, ideally, wouldn’t be a starter) who plays 27 minutes per game who shoots 45% from three point range.
If we can trade Farmar for Mayo, the Nets are a better team.
he is a luxury
That is not needed. He also cuts into 2012 cap space and has a habit of freezing out others as a shoot first pg. Ask brooks and brook.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 11:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
he has said he intends to opt out
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
thats not guaranteed
And to do what? I don’t see a team in the NBA where he would start…in Israel he would.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 11:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Question for EVERYONE
Do you like the idea of Marshon playing SF? By adding a starting SG, is it a liability or a positive to keep SWAG at the 3 spot? I’m curious to see how everyone feels about this. Is SWAG a SF in this league?
He's not, he's playing there purely because of necessity
He’s 6’5" and thin, he’s gonna have a hard time with the 6’8"-6’11" guys who play SF in the league
I don't like it
he’s got the wingspan for it but physically he’s a stick figure.
He’s a starting 2 guard in the NBA, and should be played as such.
but hell, whatever keeps him on the floor I guess.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
I don't like the idea
of him getting abused by Lebron James, Carmelo Anthony, and Kevin Durant
he cannot physically defend any of those players. Its a stupid idea to even consider Brooks an SF
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
You are totally NOT considering that The Brooks can just guide them into the lane where Petro can stop with
SIZZLIN help rotations…. this is going to be GOOD.
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
lmao
is this before or after Lebron runs right through him?
in the first 3 qtrs obviously. In the 4th, I’d bet that MarShon would put the cuffs on him :D
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
So we all pretty much feel the same way then
He’s too small. So what will come of an OJ Mayo trade? Do you guys think we’ll resign Mayo then? I like OJ and i want him on the Nets but like a few months ago…. now we’re stacked at the guard position and i dont want Swag to lose minutes.
no
We’ve been getting crushed on the boards during this experiment. It’s fine in spurts for match ups, but morrow needs to be on the bench. I would suggest brooks lead the 2nd unit but Farmar wouldn’t allow it… Hopefully he is the one traded.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 10:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
this is a great post jack
I knew that I wasn’t seeing things out there…this clown Farmar tries to freeze MarShon out of the offense
they need to get him the hell out of here imo. That kind of crap is unnecessary especially when we need help from every single player on the roster just to be competitive in games.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
he did the same with Lopez too
There’s something selfish about Farmar that I almost don’t trust. For example why sign to be a back up on a team only to make comments you will probably opt out so you can start somewhere?. If he was starter quality any team needing a pg could have signed him for less than the MLE.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 11:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
who can you stand?
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
In his two starts at SF
he is averaging 16.5 ppg.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
+1 What SF can stay with Brooks outside of Bron
He has a 7-1 wingspan and averaged 7.1 rebounds in the Big East. He will be one of the top players when we look back on this draft 3 years from now. DWILL-of-the-GODZ June 3, 2010
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 15, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
How badly have we been outrebounded
With him there? Again, a good rebounder for a SG but he and Morrow collectively can’t get it done for a wing pairing.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 11:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Swag is not a SF as much as NI says so
Offensively he can play SF but he will get bulied on D. Mar Shon is too thin to play SF. His arm length and handsize give him a major advantage over small SGs. Ammo is more of a SF because he has broad shoulders and he is closer to 200lbs
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 15, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
what does this mean going forward?
Scenario 1: Nets land Dwight at the deadline with a trade. Let’s say it’s MarShon leaving in the trade. Will the Nets be able to keep mayo as a RFA with a $7+ mil cap hold…after resigning Deron & Dwight who will opt out?
Scenario 2: Dwight does not come to the Nets at the deadline, so the Nets want to clear as much space as possible to sign him outright this summer. Mayo won’t be able to be re-signed because of his cap hold AND Lopez’s cap hold…Mayo’s rights would need to be renounced.
Would Mayo be a one season rental? An extra player to send away in a March trade? Or a possibility to resign long term after this season (is this even possible)?
i'd wager
that mayo’s rights will be renounced one way or another
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
the way I see it
if ORL doesn’t trade Dwight or trade him to a team he doesn’t like then Mayo would be renounce after the season
If we trade for Dwight and Mayo isn’t included then I could see us re-upping him in the offseason since we wouldn’t have cap space to lose and we could re-sign him even if we were over the cap.
scenario one
Yes, if we trade for dwight we would have the rights to all 3 and be able to afford them all and go well over the cap.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 10:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
would the Nets...
have Hump’s bird rights and have the option of resigning him as well?
by BKNfastbreak on Jan 15, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
this may be the most
baffling OT post i’ve ever seen in a thread
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Lol I know. Was just filtering truth my pictures folder and found this
by OTRWaldo on Jan 15, 2012 12:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Interesting.
I’m a big fan of adding Mayo, but I’m curious to know which pick they’re asking for it. I’m assuming it’s the Rockets one. If that’s the case, I wonder what the Magic value more, Brooks/Mayo or a Rockets pick that probably won’t even come to fruition until at least next season.
Talent is something that the Nets need — Mayo has plenty.
I wonder what the Magic value more
Who cares what they value! They will deal with what we have. They had a chance for Lopez, Wallace. Now they’ll chose from Lopez, Mayo (if we get him) or Lopez, Brooks.
by Belarus4life on Jan 15, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
It certainly does matter.
The Lakers are a bigger threat than they previously were.
I had always been ultra-confident about Howard’s landing spot; now, I’m not so sure. I think it’ll come down to how strong the force of the Magic not wanting to send another franchise player to the Lakers is.
I think it's up to Dwight
And I think he already hinted to Lakers don’t bother trading for me, I want to play with Deron. plain and simple.
by Belarus4life on Jan 15, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I felt that way a week ago.
I no longer do.
Kobe did chose a good time to play like it's 2006.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 15, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
who speaks every day???? kobe and howard??
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Couple of days ago there was a report I believe
that mentioned that Kobe and Dwight speak on a regular basis. Do not remember where that was from.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 15, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
and then it was denied
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Ah.
Did not hear that.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 15, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
a few factors maybe would be
the fact that kobe is playing crazy out of this world
and
the magic will probably accept just bynum the way he’s playing now
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Kobe taking his and Gasol's shots
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Kobes going to wear himself out trying to prove everything to the world
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Oh really now?
What is this? You changed your mind after being 100% sure last week, telling me that without a doubt that Howard was coming here and what not?
Comical.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Huh?
I don’t recall saying Howard was a lock without tongue implanted firmly in cheek.
The only thing that I feel is 100% is that Deron will resign with the team.
hmm
i’m not going to sift through thousands of comments but I’m pretty sure you were speaking with great conviction about Howard to the Nets
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I suppose now
the whole “he demanded a trade to the Nets!” thing is ringing kind of hollow.
I told you guys that unless it is made public that it is Nets or nothing, the Lakers can get this guy a lot easier than we can.
Dwight probably isn’t even sure about Deron any more, the dude has not looked good while Kobe is dropping 40 every night
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
If he said Nets or nothing it wont go public
As Howard looks like a jerk and the magic lose any leverage. Also, if the lakers were an option, buss s and kupcheck s comments seem to counter that. Buss sees this as their roster and said they won’t include gasol, nor have the magic asked. So if bynum and picks was enough, dwight would be a laker by now. The magic would have no reason to wait since bynum is healthy and orlandos pick get worse the longer they hold on to dwight.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 15, 2012 11:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
when asked about what team did he ask to be traded to
Dwight said “watch ESPN”
ESPN’s Chris Broussard had broken the story about Dwight asking a trade to the Nets.
you dont have to sift
just click on the poster’s handle and all his posts will come up in chronological order.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
from all indications...
it doesn’t seem the Magic value picks. They want to stay competitive, so they’d rather have a package of young, proven assets over future picks. Which is probably why the Nets were trying to find a 3rd/4th team to take on a group of picks for another player (Wallace).
I’m guessing the pick is either the Rockets 2012 protected pick or the Nets 2014 first rounder.
by BKNfastbreak on Jan 15, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
they are dumb
I’d take a chance at having Lopez/Anthony Davis as my frontcourt going forward if I knew that Dwight was out
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
What do you all feel our record would be with this same exact team
including injuries, except for the lopez injury…..if we had him throughout what would our record be
i say 6-7
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 10:47 AM EST reply actions
I think it TOTALLY changes our offense. I say we are at .500 at the least. We have a lot of talent, if the team stays intact. Then Hump becomes more valuable, etc. Without a scoring C it makes a role playing PF kind of wasted.
"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"
Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...
Howard has a “sore wrist”, which may have appeared after shooting so many free-throws. Dwight was in enough pain to miss Saturday’s practice.
perhaps he has a migraine as well.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
wow
his wrist is sore after that or is that a joke?
because he should be shooting a minimum 100 FTs in practice
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
What kind of sucks about watching these games right now is that we know no big trade
can be made until lopez comes back and shows what he’s got……any minor trade wouldnt go a long way in making an impact….sure getting mayo would be nice but it still doesnt address the needs that we had in the offseason….getting a better 3 and some bigs that can play hard D and rebound off the bench
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 10:57 AM EST reply actions
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL......excellent
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Dopeness above you stated
Kobe’s level of play and the fact that the two speak everyday.
kobe and dwight you’re referring to? they speak every day
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 11:10 AM EST reply actions
b-but I thought for sure that Dwight to NJ was going to happen
lmao…..
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
I can only imagine what it's going to be like on ND few days before 03/15/12...
2000 and up-comment threads will be norm here.
by Belarus4life on Jan 15, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure the day after
when reality sets in, this place will not be pleasant.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 15, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
MrNegativeTwoCents
Cmon man. I know youve got a lot of positive to say and we ALL.know the writing on the wall says the Nets suck but dont you get tired of draggin your feet in the mud with all that pessimism. I know you’re being realistic but you dont also have to be so down and pessimistic.
I think the OJ move is a preparation for the multi-team deal for D12.
OJ deal is not happening now, I think it will as part of the multi team deal.
BK is just shopping around based on the ORL taste ….
Here is a tidbit from Stein's weekend dime regarding the possibility of trading Deron.
One leftover question from the whole Dwight Howard discussion to the left: Is there any scenario where the Nets, fearing that they won’t be able to trade for Howard and thus putting themselves at great risk for losing Deron Williams in free agency this summer, decide to trade D-Will before the March 15 deadline to avoid that nightmare scenario?
Sources briefed on New Jersey’s thinking say that there’s only one such scenario.
If Howard is traded to the Lakers before the deadline, sources say New Jersey would then be forced to explore its D-Will trade options, knowing that Williams would be a virtual lock to leave come July. If Orlando keeps Howard or deals him anywhere else but L.A. or Dallas before the deadline, thus keeping alive its dream of pairing the two in Brooklyn next fall, New Jersey will wait.
The Nets, in other words, would have to be all the way out of the Howard Sweepstakes before abandoning their plans, having sacrificed so much last February (Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and two first-round picks) just to get D-Will.
If this were to happen…who do we trade Deron for? A lot of people bring up Westbrook, but I would explore trading for a lottery pick in the draft. But of course, this would be the plan if “The Big Picture” fails miserably.
I think it's fine.
how would he be a virtual lock to leave
when he would be leaving $25 million on the table?
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
It is not necessary to read whose that guesses. He only tells the opinion.
I don't speak English
by RussianNets on Jan 15, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Woj said Nets ain't trading Deron even if Dwight goes elsewhere
he said they’d rather roll the dice and risk losing DWill in free agency.
He said that twice in 2 different radio interviews
Deron said it's not Dwight or bust
Nets have the assets to pull off a good trade at the deadline if Dwight is traded to LA.
TX doesn't have State and City tax
NY State and City income tax ~ 15%
by Belarus4life on Jan 15, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
who says he will be paying NYC taxes...and when
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
He will be working in Brooklyn
You pay taxes where you work.
by Belarus4life on Jan 15, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
You're responsible for taxes where you live too
If you pay taxes to other jurisdiction – you get credit in your home state. If credit is less then you owe to your home state – you must pay the difference.
Once again, you can not avoid NYS and NYC income tax.
by Belarus4life on Jan 15, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
I would explore trading for a lottery pick in the draft.
Same. But that’s assuming a high lottery pick is even on the table. That’s an immense asset for a team to give up for a rental and a team close to contention that DWill might resign with wouldn’t have that asset in the first place. IMO, getting a high lottery pick is the absolute best scenario and I can’t see it happening.
I don’t think the Nets would trade him at the deadline under ANY circumstances. Not only would they not get enough back to make it worth it, but there are jobs on the line here. Billy King would be writing his own pink slip with any DWill trade that doesn’t bring back a star (and that’s not happening).
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Obviously, if Boston is willing to do that
The Nets should do it immediately. In fact, based on DWill’s newfound inability to shoot straight and their respective ages, I think Rondo is probably the better bet over the next several years.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
An assist machine for sure.
Problem is that he is very streaky in terms of scoring. He can burst for 25+ or have a game where he only scores 6. And obviously he is notorious for not having a jumper.
Like I said, if this unlikely scenario does happen, first thing I look for is a lottery pick this year.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 15, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
For a guy with no jumper, he's a great PG.
Excellent rebounder. Excellent defender. Excellent passer. Efficient scorer.
If it wasn’t for the whole “Howard has a mancrush on DWill” thing, I might be looking to add assets to entice Boston to make that deal.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
His scoring numbers are up this year, about 15 points along with 10 assists.
Deron is at 18 points and 8 assists. Both are turing the ball over, though. Rondo is making half his shots, and Deron is at just .366. Still hoping for him to regain his shooting touch. He has even said he feels like he is working around to much to get shots off.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 15, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
WP48 has Rondo as a top 10 player in the NBA the last three years.
So even the advanced metrics think he’s a beast.
Last year, Rondo had 74 more steals than DWill in nearly the same amount of minutes. Just thought that was interesting…
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
I do not believe Deron will get traded, period.
And right now I do think we will be going into Brooklyn with him and Dwight.
Only scenario I really think where Deron would actually leave us in free agency is to play with Dwight in Dallas.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 15, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
don't trade Deron for Westbrook
A Deron trade should be like a CP3 trade. Great young players, expiring contracts, very high draft pick.
We Need Mayo now
NBA Caliber players can do more then one thing. You can get away with one or two role player types in your rotation.
DWill – NBA caliber
Lopez – NBA caliber
Brooks – NBA caliber
Mayo – NBA caliber
Farmar – NBA caliber
Gaines – NBA cailber
Hump – Role player / rebounder
Morrow – Role player / spot up shooter
Sheldon – Role player / extra big
Stevenson – Role player / defensive specialist
James – Role player / Energy guy
Okur – Role player / Big man to stretch floor
Petro – GARBAGE
JWill – GARBAGE
Horner – GARBAGE
You can look at it two ways.
1. We have 3 PG’s who are NBA caliber so Farmar is expendable.
2. Morrow is just a role player. You trade a role player for an NBA caliber player 10 out of 10 times.
We also need to cut the dead weight. We are stuck with Petro but we should cut JWill and Horner already and pick up a SF. If we can somehow get Mayo and cut some salary (Morrow & Petro) by March, we should go after Wilson Chandler on a 1 year deal.
Lopez | Okur
Hump | Sheldon
W Chandler | Stevenson
Brooks | Mayo
DWill | Gaines
He has a 7-1 wingspan and averaged 7.1 rebounds in the Big East. He will be one of the top players when we look back on this draft 3 years from now. DWILL-of-the-GODZ June 3, 2010
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 15, 2012 11:32 AM EST reply actions
Okur would be a good back-up to Lopez
with the Nets or Magic
Okur can only shoot at this point in his career
He is horrible on defense, turns the ball over when he passes, and cant post up
He has a 7-1 wingspan and averaged 7.1 rebounds in the Big East. He will be one of the top players when we look back on this draft 3 years from now. DWILL-of-the-GODZ June 3, 2010
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 15, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Okur's still a good passer and can shoot some
but he is so slow now and can’t defend
They are backups but the can both shoot, dribble, pass
He has a 7-1 wingspan and averaged 7.1 rebounds in the Big East. He will be one of the top players when we look back on this draft 3 years from now. DWILL-of-the-GODZ June 3, 2010
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 15, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
neither would start on any team. Farmar thinks he would, but hes not starting quality.
Also…. Why are you even talking about Wilson Chandler? Are there any reports of this even being remotely discussed or possible? This is just wishful thinking. Lets stick to reality and the things that are actually possible. Things that we hear about. I’m not interested in hearing stupid acquisition dreams like this.
I never said they were starters
Both Farmar and Gaines are decent backup PG’s though.
Are there any reports of this even being remotely discussed or possible? This is just wishful thinking. Lets stick to reality and the things that are actually possible. Things that we hear about. I’m not interested in hearing stupid acquisition dreams like this.
If you dont like reading then dont. But stop with the insults or you will get banned. I have no idea what level your IQ is nor do I care.
He has a 7-1 wingspan and averaged 7.1 rebounds in the Big East. He will be one of the top players when we look back on this draft 3 years from now. DWILL-of-the-GODZ June 3, 2010
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 15, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone who is in your rotation needs to be at a certain level or else they will hurt the team when they are in.
If we are talking about starting caliber players then that would be
DWill
Lopez
Brooks
Mayo is a starting caliber talent.
As far as Chandler goes, of course that’s speculation. He is under contract with a chinese team so NO team is able to talk with him. But he is a SF and our biggest need is at SF. When I see a circle hole and a circle block it’s not hard to put 2 and 2 together. If we did a slarary dump trade where we can shed Morrow and Petro then we might be able to get Chandler who is familar with this area since he played with the Knicks most of his career.
He has a 7-1 wingspan and averaged 7.1 rebounds in the Big East. He will be one of the top players when we look back on this draft 3 years from now. DWILL-of-the-GODZ June 3, 2010
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 15, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
WTH does NBA caliber mean?
You’re saying Hump and Morrow are role players but Gaines is not? Loll wowwww
NBA caliber means
that you can do more then one thing. Like play offense and defense
He has a 7-1 wingspan and averaged 7.1 rebounds in the Big East. He will be one of the top players when we look back on this draft 3 years from now. DWILL-of-the-GODZ June 3, 2010
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 15, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Is it?
Can Hump or Sheldon score?
Can Morrow play defense, dribble or pass?
We need people who contribute at both ends of the court
He has a 7-1 wingspan and averaged 7.1 rebounds in the Big East. He will be one of the top players when we look back on this draft 3 years from now. DWILL-of-the-GODZ June 3, 2010
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 15, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
So...
Is OJ gonna keep Brooks from packing his bags to Orlando?
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
think menu
one from column a, one from column b.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
NI, let's say we give up Farmar. does that means we have a better chance of keeping Morrow should we trade either Brooks or mayo?
by soul driver on Jan 15, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
If we trade for Mayo tomorrow. How we can trade it for Howard? <60 days to a deadline.
I don't speak English
by RussianNets on Jan 15, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
In two months much that can change. So it is impossible to count on it.
I don't speak English
by RussianNets on Jan 15, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
there is no way
they are getting both MarShon and O.J.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 15, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
lol we dont have OJ
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
seriously lol
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
in his scenario
they do?
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 15, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
If we can't get howard.....what other big names may become available via trade?????
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions
i would love
J SMooooooooove but G. Wallace would make me happy too :)
by MetsNetsGiants on Jan 15, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
thats what im worried about......do we roll with our high draft pick
and see what we can get in the offseason with all the capspace? problem is most good FA’s are restricted this summer
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
i dont think portland is in any rush to get rid of batum
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
If a deal isn’t reached by the 25th, it’s not the end of the world. It would make Batum a restricted free agent this summer, meaning the Blazers can match any offer. Batum wants to stay in Portland. The Blazers want him to remain in Portland. They just have to agree on a number.
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
if POR were wiling to accept that
why wouldn’t MEM just cut us off that trade and take Batum themselves instead of Farmar and a pick?
I'd trade Farmar and a second round pick for Mayo
But i’m certainly not giving up any more than that. If Memphis wants a first round pick, then they can keep him.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
i would not stand being a mid level team...
Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...
by D-Will2Nets on Jan 15, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
exactly!!! everyone was for the howard or bust plan!!!!
If we dont get him i dont see how theres any light at the end of the tunnel!!!!
The freeagent class is a bunch of talented guys who are all restricted.
And it’ll take a high lottery pick a few years to have a huge impact……dont get me wrong, having MKG, brooks, lopez on the same team is a nice core, but it’s not a contender in the least
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Rebuilding doesn't mean we can't have a decent team.
Look how Utah’s doing.
Nets rebuilding plan was mishandled at best, cutting VC’s and RJ’s salaries while filling the roster with a bunch of rookies with no experience at the pro level is just asking for a disaster to happen, there should have been a smoother transition from a veteran to a young team.
Still want Howard though.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
we COULD HAVE had a decent rebuilding plan
now it’s impossible
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I'm cringing at what we could have had
Lopez, Favors, #3 pick in 2011, Top-5 pick in 2012, those 2 picks sent to Utah…
by Belarus4life on Jan 15, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
not to mention we would have gotten some kind of chip
for devin harris at the deadline last year
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 15, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
not impossible...
just gonna have to be even more pacient.
Brook, Brooks, Bogdanovic and maybe Humphries is a good start.
Don’t want to go down that path yet though, it’s too early to tell we are going to be rebuilding or going for a championship next year.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
I wonder
How in the world OKC will be able to keep Harden, who’s playing like "max’, with 2 other “max” players Durant and Westbrook? Then they’d have to renounce Ibaka, Perkins, Maynor…
Is it just me or is it odd that the Grizzlies SB Nation site doesn’t even mention the Mayo offer? I was going to check out their opinion of these rumors, but nothing
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
by J-Kay on Jan 15, 2012 1:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
wouldn't mind mayo
starting over Morrow.
He (mayo) plays defense whilst morrow plays the role of turnstyle.
Do you guys think though, that mayo’s and brooks’s style of play are similar
and that starting those two would be too much of a redundancy?
i honestly haven’t been keeping up that much on mayo over the years so i can’t
really say.
wolves never rest
If the trade goes down (either morrow or farmar)
Does anyone think that Mayo will be frustrated (like when Dwill first heard he was traded) or look at like it will be a fresh start and play like he did his rookie year?
100% fresh start.
he’s kinda languishing over there.
Fresh start, for sure. Playing with Deron, possibly Dwight, being 2nd or 3rd option as opposed to 4th or 5th.
Also, I really think it went down hill for him when Tony A punked him on the team bus. Seriously.
DHoward,DWill and OJMayo is definitely a team that has a chance to win it all....
But Avery must go….We need to bring in Phil Jackson…..
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