Game 12 - Nets @ Suns - Friday, January 13, 9:00
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PrintOh wow, it's Friday the 13th. What could go wrong? Hold your tongue! The Nets go into Phoenix in hopes of turning around a bad stretch particularly on defense. As Fred Kerber reports, "Offensively, the Nets have been reborn. The 3-point shot has become a weapon to be feared (56-of-121, .463). They have averaged more than 100 points (100.8). A veritable irresistible force, of sorts" But on defense? the Nets have surrendered 103.8 points per — 110.0 in the last three games. Not so good.
The Suns, a shell of their seven-seconds-or-less heyday, are 4-6, having lost their last two and are only 3-3 at home. One big issue lately is offensive rebounds. Another is a lack of athleticism. Two positives however. Steve Nash is still Steve Nash, reeling off 16 points to go with 15 assists on Thursday. The other is the return of Michael Redd who scored 12 point in 19 minutes in his debut on Thursday. Still, the Suns lost to the Cavaliers by 11.
The Nets are likely to get back one of their walking wounded, DeShawn Stevenson, who's listed as questionable. Mehmet Okur will play as well, but Damion James is still out with a sore foot.
- New Jersey Nets Game Notes - New Jersey Nets
- Phoenix Suns Game Notes - Phoenix Suns
- Getting Inside - New Jersey Nets - Sports Xchange
- Getting Inside - Phoenix Suns - Sports Xchange
- Nets hope to rebound from tough loss to Denver Nuggets - Colin Stephenson - Star-Ledger
- Offense is better, now Nets’ D ailing - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- Nets opt to rest instead of practice - Andy Vasquez - The Record
- Nets Shoot Lights Out and Still Find a Way To Lose - Michael Salfino - Wall Street Journal
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how can Nash have the suns playing .500 ball but swill can't =]
by shethravi on Jan 13, 2012 7:10 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Because Nash has played with the Suns for most of his career
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
by Keysta101 on Jan 13, 2012 7:58 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Because Dwill wants reinvent himself into Derek Rose
Nash is a passing PG that shoots when its there . Dwill is a passing PG that shoots whenever he wants.
by Zartan on Jan 13, 2012 10:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Its not hating if he IS playing bad.
Dwight or Bust
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Very true but what would you call it?
Hope your answer is as funny as Kris Jenkins grading the jets coaching staff with a F+ lmao.
by Zartan on Jan 13, 2012 10:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL
its just bashing and stating the obvious. But some are just blind, and don’t like to hear the obvious. I had nothing funny for him playing bad, but I do question why he has look so terrible in so many different area’s. Maybe he misses Turkey.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
chicken's just as good, though
/grandpa joke
by shane gayle on Jan 13, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Nicely done lol
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
2-10
Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...
by D-Will2Nets on Jan 13, 2012 7:10 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
No
Dwight or Bust
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
from Kerber's article
Several league sources confirmed last night the Nets and Grizzlies were involved in trade talks for a deal that contained Anthony Morrow and O.J. Mayo as principals. But the talks have cooled, if not died. The discussions were first reported by Yahoo Sports.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/nets/offense_is_better_now_nets_ailing_OeOrbbcBB92gIyA5xplJjN#ixzz1jLAkiOZW
There is an entire thread dedicated to this if you just bothered to look.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Jan 13, 2012 8:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I know, I posted there last night
but since the article I’m referring to was linked in this news entry and Keber says the deal is dead I think it was worth bringing it up.
Yeah people need to relax
Thanks for the link.
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still hoping they get him
it would pretty smart of the Nets to get him knowing Brooks will be Orlando bound by the deadline.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 13, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
No one knows anything
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 13, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Suns in B2B+ I watched them yesterday and they are simply bad= we have a legit shot. But never be sure of anything with that team.
Kyrie and the Cavs can do it , so why not us ? We got this.
Wait a second , Deron is our PG. Forget I said anything.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
what is the point on commenting this
if you want us to forget u said anything
Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...
This type of comment drives me crazy. Just don’t come here if it’s just for always criticizing our superstar in every single comment.
Deron sucks and is a quitter.
DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson
it is called defense
and having a team assembled before dec. 22
Happy to see Billy King graduated in an accelerated "how to make a trade" class in just one night :)
djAMES
He will probably never play again. He is being taken care of by the METS doctors. Billy King: What do you do all day? Maybe we should not have waived Outlaw? (just kidding about Outlaw) But seriously, we need a small forward!
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
Same injury as Brook
That’s what scares me.
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I will always just assume Damion James is hurt until I hear differently. The man is built of glass.
by nynjlawyer on Jan 13, 2012 7:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions
How can he be built of glass when his hands are made of bricks? Jus saying….
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Sounds like a nursery rhyme
Uh oh, I can see a MIKE post coming….
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That's the problem
Glass feet + stone hands = broken foot while tying shoes.
To be fair
27th overall pick wasn’t it? James is about what you would expect to get that late
ask wizards fans how much they like jordan crawford right now
he’s a low IQ chucker
by shane gayle on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
"oooooooh I wish you hadn't said Phoenix!"
by Chakroot on Jan 13, 2012 8:01 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
I bet on the Nets to win tonight
I’ve made a huge mistake
Who
Who on this roster can contain Nash? Our star that would match up against him plays less defense than Melo.
maybe get nash in foul trouble
by posting him up is what i meant
Nash is no fool guys
and Deron posts up only to take a fade away short jumper.
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im starting to question Dwill and BK moves
All of these players signed 1 or 2 yr deals and are better than Desean, Shelden, Shawne. If these guys were DWills choices I’m worried.
Peitrus
VC
REvans
JHoward
Billlups
RButler
JMcRoberts
Radmonovic
TMac
MDaniels
CWilcox
SBrown
Howard is averaging 11ppg in just 23 mpg on a good Utah team
would have been a way better signing than Shawne. Radmanovic too, and he signed for the vets min.
Shawne actually eats up 2012 cap space (no way he declines his PO if he keeps playing like this), we gotta dump him at the deadline.
I know
He also knows Averys system. He plays SF and goood D. Why didn’t he sign here?
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 AM EST up reply actions
He's not a GM...
and we gave him the keys to call the GM moves. Notice half the guys on the team are guys he ALREADY played with in Utah… All the man knows is UTAH…smh
10:30 a.m. on february 23, 2011 woke up with no hope.
12:30 p.m. on february 23, 2011 hope was born
D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
exactly
There was so much experience and talent on the market. Even if you overpay for 1 yr, there were better players available
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 8:32 AM EST up reply actions
What does it matter if their gonna come and under perform
Nets need a savior( Dwight or Brooks).
by Zartan on Jan 13, 2012 10:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Guys just need to do what they’re being paid for which is make baskets and defend. That is all
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hot shooting continues. defense improves.
dwill double doubles again, nets win by 4. dwill hating stalls until after the jazz game.
the nets are injured...
that is why Dwill cant make them win. they have arguably the worst starting C, Sg, SF at times in the nba.
James is a bench player
morrow is a bench player and is horrific on D and stalls an offense that doesnt have inside out
Petro is the worst player in the nba and horrible on defense.
So basically certain lineups cant defend (morrow, shawne, petro)
certain lineups cant score (james, sheldon, deshawn)
there are 3 good players Deron, brooks (who is still a rookie u have to realize) and hump, who cant create his own o.
A lineup of deron, brooks, stevenson, hump, lopez would be a playoff team no doubt in my mind, but current group is horrible, adn blaming deron for playing with the worst assembling of players is just not right…. they signed guys who are good in inside out system….and they have no inside.
We only have one major starter injured
Brook lopez. You think if we swapped him with Okur, we’d be much better? Still far below a 0.500 team.
Yeah right
Lopez>>>>Okur
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 13, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously?
Never even thought about that
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yeppers
You think if we swapped him with Okur, we’d be much better
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
and anyone
that wouldnt trade morrow for mayo in a second, and throw in cash, pay for the flight, and help pack bags…. is lost.
you need defense… watch the grizz play… mayo, gay, allen, conley, all + defenders….
Gay is a bad defender
Mayo not that great a defender either, better than Morrow in that department but that’s not saying much.
look i love Ammo like everyone else
but i would honestly rather have a athletic player than a really good one dimensional player
10:30 a.m. on february 23, 2011 woke up with no hope.
12:30 p.m. on february 23, 2011 hope was born
D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's a questionable player as well
Lets see how he does with this team now that Z-Bo is out
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I like Gay I never seen him as a "bad" defender
I thinks he’s a really good play but is just too passive. But I can’t lie and say I watch him all the time so I can be wrong
I've never really seen him take over games like the player I thought he would be
I love U-CONN and most of there players that come to the NBA, but he has been a bit of a disappointment in my eyes. Solid player, not sure if he Option #1 material though. However, I do love what Z-Bo has become.
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I was thinking yesterday how much I wish we had picked up more veterans in the off-season
This team badly needs tough, veteran leadership; people who won’t accept losing like this. Too many of our players are just happy to accept losses.
Yeah, that's what compelled me to post that.
I don’t think Sheed is the answer though. Not sure about his ability to still perform.
not talkin bout the sheed post
Go higher to my list
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
Man, Nets Are Scorching really hits on the nose here
This defense is absolutely atrocious and is at historic levels of awfulness:
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its rediculous
This team needed a full training camp
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
so did all of the other teams
and you don’t see this kind of garbage elsewhere.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah you do
With our other little general, Lawrence Frank.
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Defense is based on effort
And that’s all we need to know as fans. Right now these guys aren’t giving their all
and communication
I never hear anyone call out rotations
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
i know, the effort is bad
Especially when your capt ain’t hustlin on D!
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
Its also about mindset too
most team that plays us seems to one to kill us right out of the gate, because there is this perception that we are bad.
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True LOL
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By choice though!
This team reminds me of this years Jet team, not that good but could sneak into the playoffs. All we need is to play smart and together.
This does feel like Frank 2.0.
by Zartan on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Actually it does
There “star” played like crap and ours is too. But the Jets made a good run last year, the Nets made a good run in 2002 and 2003.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Well effort is important, but I haven't been too upset with effort
I really do feel like these guys are going out and playing hard, but they are absolutely in the worst positions ever on the floor, as shown by the example here.
Fast breaks against Denver are going to happen, that’s what that team does.
But leaving their 3 point shooters open, like we’ve done against all teams so far, there is no excuse. I would rather Nene beat Hump or Williams one on one than leave shooters wide open from the perimeter like it’s a shootaround.
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Leaving a 3 point shooter open has ALOT to do with effort IMO
They see the guy if he’s open they dnt even bother to contend the shot. The rotations are HORRIBLE as you said and when you combine that you get 20 point deficits in each game we played :-(
it's ALL effort
bad rotations, zero communication on defense, leaving known 3 point shooters WIDE OPEN
It’s all effort and its piss poor.
Most of the time you can tell they don’t give a damn about defending the perimeter. And then when a three gets banged in Deron’s face tells the entire story
This team has played poorly, regardless of injuries.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
I don't mind losing because shots aren't falling
But C’Mon defensively show some heart. Is it coaching? Is it because they know they aren’t any good? Does it start with DWill? Does every player take a I don’t give a damn oath when they sign to be a Net? I want to know what it is.
I will say this, I think the Nets will start to play better right before Lopez comes back. Hopefully Lopez can hit the ground running
honestly
poor defensive efforts have become a staple of Nets basketball. Ever since the year we traded Kidd, the defense has just gone into the toilet.
The atmosphere is a mess, and dudes are mercenaries that don’t care to play hard because the money is guaranteed and they probably think that they’ll get traded anyway.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Doubt that
This team lacks a true leader . It seems like they are waiting for orders and no ones giving them any. It starts with coaching then the lack of leadership on the floor.
IMO this team should be hovering around .400-.500 record. If it doesn’t happen then Avery needs to be looked at real hard at season end. Don’t give me that players are injured crap.
I will say that Avery may have been sabatoged with trade rumors and all that but a coach gets players to play no matter what.
by Zartan on Jan 13, 2012 10:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Disagree.
Unless you equate effort and intelligence.
I don’t.
Exactly
Guys can run hard (which I believe they are doing) but if they are just defense-stupid, that takes hours in training camp and video. And no guarantee it’ll get through.
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Like I said
Good teacher/coach get it through. Brooks taking a shot at the top of the arc and letting his man run for an easy two deserves a T/O and coaching. I can’t say it’s not being done but I don’t see it, guys need to get an earful for bad rotations.
Paremiter
by Zartan on Jan 13, 2012 12:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Like I said
Good teacher/coach get it through. Brooks taking a shot at the top of the arc and letting his man run for an easy two deserves a T/O and coaching. I can’t say it’s not being done but I don’t see it, guys need to get an earful for bad rotations.
Perimeter defense has been a problem for the Nets since Kidd left , get it fixed!
BTW, deron looks like he’s 230-240 pds at 6’3". He need to play at 210.
by Zartan on Jan 13, 2012 12:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the break down of the Morrow play
is beyond embarrassing. Someone should send that link to the Nets
There is no excuse for this kind of nonsense. None what so ever
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
No
it’s everyone else’s fault. The coach doesn’t train the players or call out plays or anything like that.
"Good pitching will always stop good hitting and vice-versa." -- Casey Stengel
by calling all toasters on Jan 13, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
It's the perfect storm of awfulness
Lack of effort, terrible defensive BBIQ & perhaps worst of all a lack of athleticism.
This team is poorly constructed right now. We’ve basically gone full circle, and are now the anti-Thorn team. Many here will bash me because they hate Thorn, but I think the philosophical differences are telling.
When it came to drafting & assembling a team, pre-Kiki Thorn put a lot of emphasis on size & athleticism. Our players were typically big for their positions & athletic/versatile enough to play/guard multiple positions. Thorn, often to a fault, put too much emphasis on athleticism over skill. We could guard & run with anybody, be we had trouble scoring in the half court.
Our current team is the polar opposite. King struck gold with Korver & now we have a team full of Korvers. We have guys that can hit shots, but we’re relatively undersized & terribly unathletic. Like DWill said, we have a bunch of guys that could be valuable role players on top flight teams, but nobody the athleticism, versatility & well rounded game needed to win games.
Teams pressure our 3 point shooters & shade help towards our only 2 ball handlers because they know nobody can beat them off the dribble. They get out breaks & make constant cuts to the basket, because we have nobody that can keep up. At least if we had athletic guys, we could compete defensively & possibly get some cheap fast break points. We have nothing of the sort unfortunately.
While trading for Howard would help with regard to defense & athleticism, we still have to upgrade our athleticism a lot at the other positions. Hypothetically, if we’re starting DWill+Morrow+Turkoglu+Humphries with D12, it would be hard to imagine Howard being able to stay out of foul trouble.
Perfect Storm of Awfulness
Lack of effort, terrible defensive BBIQ & perhaps worst of all a lack of athleticism.
This team is poorly constructed right now. We’ve basically gone full circle, and are now the anti-Thorn team. Many here will bash me because they hate Thorn, but I think the philosophical differences are telling.
When it came to drafting & assembling a team, pre-Kiki Thorn put a lot of emphasis on size & athleticism. Our players were typically big for their positions & athletic/versatile enough to play/guard multiple positions. Thorn, often to a fault, put too much emphasis on athleticism over skill. We could guard & run with anybody, be we had trouble scoring in the half court.
Our current team is the polar opposite. King struck gold with Korver & now we have a team full of Korvers. We have guys that can hit shots, but we’re relatively undersized & terribly unathletic. Like DWill said, we have a bunch of guys that could be valuable role players on top flight teams, but nobody the athleticism, versatility & well rounded game needed to win games.
Teams pressure our 3 point shooters & shade help towards our only 2 ball handlers because they know nobody can beat them off the dribble. They get out breaks & make constant cuts to the basket, because we have nobody that can keep up. At least if we had athletic guys, we could compete defensively & possibly get some cheap fast break points. We have nothing of the sort unfortunately.
While trading for Howard would help with regard to defense & athleticism, we still have to upgrade our athleticism a lot at the other positions. Hypothetically, if we’re starting DWill+Morrow+Turkoglu+Humphries with D12, it would be hard to imagine Howard being able to stay out of foul trouble.
Sorry for the double post
Seemed like it hung the first time.
No matter how bad it gets
I’m always excited for the next Nets basketball game, and I always will be, even if we are left with zero stars heading into Brooklyn.
Let’s hope Deron gets out of his funk and plays like the superstar he is, and shows Steve Nash just how old he is.
Looking forward to seeing MarShon play well tonight.
Always hoping for a win, but I know the plan… and that plan broke Wilt’s record last night, so it’s worth all this trouble if it pans out.
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by eLonepb on Jan 13, 2012 9:05 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
its tough
Getting excited for the game. Pounding a couple of beers. Being optimistic about Dwill and MarShon. Then watchin bad execution and bad D. I switch to some Crown Royal Black and start yelling at the terrible play and start to look for other games. 4th Q the nEts start to rally and I pass out until postgame comes and I have te rewind and watch the final minutes of the loss
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
its hard to get excited to watch this crap. I love the Nets, but this script has played itself out too many times. The players give a garbage effort, and ownership doesn’t care that the product is unwatchable. Fans sitting through this stuff and praying for better days. Rinse, wash, repeat.
I turned the last game off after one play in the 2nd qtr. I doubt I even bother to DVR this one, the Suns will make it rain from the outside and the Nets won’t give a damn. After reading the link that eLone posted I’m even less excited now.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
hopefully
I was hopeful that the practice on Thursday would’ve made a difference in our defense…..but then we cancelled it.
I don’t agree with that move. Especially not with our defensive mindset the last 4 games. Atrocious.
We need practice, looking at videos, playing team defense. It’s ridiculous because other teams have scouted our defense and pick right through it. They know we won’t guard the perimeter. they know if they pass the ball around to the open 3 we won’t be able to rotate in time.
Majority of that though are our forwards and bigs imo. Our guards aren’t typically the ones that leave the perimeter player open.
If Dwight does not come and Deron walks...
…we go into Brooklyn with Brook, Brooks, a high draft pick and tons of cap. Not so bad.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 13, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
to be far, marc jackson broke Wilt's record..
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 13, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
fair**
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 13, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
More like 25 points. smh!
http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/5/13/2168930/in-mock-drafts-no-consensus-yet
by jasperjarrod on Jan 13, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
I'll take the under
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 13, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Just Tank the Season.
Keep the pick(s). If Howards want the Nets then he could signt with the Nets. Trade Farmar for more chips that could be used in a trade on draft night.
http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/5/13/2168930/in-mock-drafts-no-consensus-yet
Tell you the Truth
I don’t know who! :)
http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/5/13/2168930/in-mock-drafts-no-consensus-yet
by jasperjarrod on Jan 13, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
Farmar and Petro 2nd rd pick for RLopez is my wish
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
sign me up on that one.
http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/5/13/2168930/in-mock-drafts-no-consensus-yet
by jasperjarrod on Jan 13, 2012 9:57 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
This one is winnable
:-/ I kno I kno we say that before every game, and when I say it now, I really just expect and hope we just keep it close.
Timmy Legler waxing poetic on SC this morning
on why howard will want to go to LA…..kobe can keep this up for 4to5 years says little Timmy!!!!! Love these guys i tell ya
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 13, 2012 9:17 AM EST reply actions
3 yrs max
What Kobe is not doing is passing to Pau and Bynum. Why would Dwight want to rebound for Kobe all season?
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
They'll put talent around him
Kobe playing like the all world star he is. Deron playing like the 11th best PG in the league.
At this point, it wouldn’t surprise me if Dwight began to lean towards LA, I wouldn’t blame him (taking homer glasses off). I just don’t see how LA offers Orlando what it needs in getting anyone other than Bynum + Duhon (with trade exception). Sure, they could trade Gasol to Houston and try to rehash that deal but that sucks for Houston now and the Lakers would be sending the young guys to Orlando.
I still think a Lopez (if he’s healthy) + Marshon Brooks + lottery pick (traded to another team for their stud young player to go to Orlando) is better than just Bynum and a TE.
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I wouldn't be surprised either
the way the team performs added with Williams’ tomfoolery, it looks like amateur hour over here compared to the Lakers.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
i also believe not having Lopez has a huge mental affect on this team
Everyone knew Lopez was gonna get the ball and score. Inside and outside thhe offense was built around Brook. Now he’s not there and everyones weakness is magnified.
Brook Lopez for MVP
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is incredibly true
We have NO post game. Zero. A team HAS to have some kind of post game to be successful and spread the floor. Was just a huge blow.
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i just dont understand the coachin in Lopez absence
Marshon can post Dwill can too
Okur Williams Ammot at the 3 pt line
The Nets are scoring but not getting to the line
Someone has to get in the paint. Avery needs to be creative
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
this killed us. King shaped the roster with guys who would be more effective with Lopez in the post. Without him it pretty much is pointless.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
i been arguing this for weeks
LA won’t trade Bynum and Pau for Dwight. Kupcheck said he didn’t offer both. The Nets offer cap relief, young talent, and a draft pick. No other team can offer that. Dwight and Dwill are the same age. If Dwight can make it to free agency the Nets would be top 3 in the east. No other team has a better chance at both players.
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
the Lakers win games
and they have dominant players. they will be talked about, and they will be considered the best location for Howard. I think that Net fans have a hard time grasping the fact that outside of our little world, this team is a laughing stock and people can’t fathom why accomplished players want to play here.
To top it off, we have a superstar PG that focuses more on being a spoiled brat instead of playing superstar level ball
Watching Kyrie Irving play last night, and watching D-Will go through the motions, its laughable for anyone to sit here and defend Williams’ performance this season. He’s very smart not to air his true thoughts to the media because he wouldn’t have a leg to stand on.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
it really is disgusting
I would bench his arse after every turnover he doesn’t hustle back on
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
why do you demand Asst GM / Asst Head Coach to run back on D
DWill oop to D12
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Disagree
I absolutely will disagree with this because you are all blaming solely on Dwill and that is laughable. We do not have a serviceable squad without Lopez. There is nobody for Williams to actually dish it to that is an effective big. We are using the 3 point shot as our offensive game. That is not an issue with Dwill. He averages 8 assists / game, 14 ppgs so far on a losing team that has zero post presence. Our bigs are the problem, not Dwill specifically. Will he play bad games? Of course, so does every basketball player and we’ve had 11 games.
If we had Lopez or ANYONE else for that matter (humprhies is not an offensive option, he can have big games and get lucky but he is NOT a scoring option) that Dwill can pass to down in the post I bet you he’d be averaging 10+ assists easily and another 4 – 6 points per game for the post double team pass out plays.
I’m not saying Dwill is perfect, nor am i saying that he needs to get more involved in getting this team moving but he is probably one of the ONLY ones that’s actually trying and understandably getting frustrated.
by Roccor420 on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Let's not forget the piss-poor paint defense as well
Even when Lopez comes back, that will have to be cleaned up.
People have to remember Deron has never been a player that goes iso and effectively scores. He isn’t that type of guard. He is a system guy, who right now, has a team around him designed for a big guy in the middle. That said, his leader reputation is sustaining its first test that I have seen. There is no excuse for that.
Without Marshon, I would hate to think of how bad our offense would have been now. It sure does make some people around here start appreciating Brook a little, however.
Happy to see Billy King graduated in an accelerated "how to make a trade" class in just one night :)
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how the might have fallen
Kim’s mom has acted like a madam lording over a batch of prostitutes. Who the hell markets a sex tape of your own child? Considers it a good idea to show boobs for playboy?
The well has already dried up for the older ones since they’re all used up. I’m pretty sure sooner or later the two younger sisters will get caught up in some kinda sexting scandal giving their clan a new breath of fresh air from the pederasts that run hollywood
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now Kourtney is not a Kardashian!
I believe this woman is an evil genius. She turned Kims sex tape into 100 mil business. She definetly learned from he husband
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
She should work for the Nets
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by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
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Nets are just so bad right now. It’s painful to watch if not for brooks
It's sad to see where the nets have fallen to...
We are waiting on a player we may not get. And even when we get him, how good will we be without a strong supporting cast? You have to respect how a team like cleveland is going about rebuilding their team. They lost lebron last year and were pitifal. But they did not look for quick fixes. They are taking their time and rebuilding their team the right way. Now, the team is showing some promise with brining in young talent and developing them. Will they make the playoffs this year? Hell no. But, they will have yet another high lottery pick to go with 2 talented very young players in Irving and Thompson. And now that Clevelnd team is beating us and they do not have a “top ten” player on their squad.
Hopefully one day our team will get it…
Question...
Has a top 3 player requested a trade to Cleveland? Do they have a top 2 PG at the moment? Are they moving into a new arena in the most famous city in the world? No? Then they’re situation is nothing like ours. This isn’t a pipe dream, Dwight Howard wants to be here. This is nothing like the LeBron chase. If Dwight doesn’t work out, then Deron leaves and we have a top 3 pick in a loaded draft to rebuild the slow way with. Otherwise, this is a hail Mary pass that has a pretty good chance of working out. And ask any Cavs fan if they would either have 2 superstars on their team or a 5+ year rebuilding process.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jan 13, 2012 9:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 9 recs
Well to be fair
this team doesn’t know wtf there doing since we’ve missed the playoffs for like 4 straight year I think, and we haven’t even rebuild neither. If D-Willz leave, which I hope he doesn’t, then this team will become even worst for years to come.
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So?
In the NBA, you either want to be great or horrible. That’s the blueprint.
Good luck with that Blueprint
Nets have been on the horrible side of that print for say 40 years now?
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Greatness takes wise moves...
They had a blueprint for building the titanic. We see how that turned out…
by aug93 on Jan 13, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
LMAO
Very funny, best post this far.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Lol.
I never use this word, but it’s pretty evident that you’re a straight up troll.
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Trolling? We're stating the obvious buddy
if me and others are trolling, the opposite of us is delusional.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
It was a joke
Geez
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
We weren't making fun of it
we were making fun of the team really.
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Brook Lopez's foot - iceberg?
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Who could have thought of hitting an iceberg in the north Atlantic of all places?
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 13, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
if we don't get Howard hours b4 the deadline and he wants out.
Then trade him.
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by jasperjarrod on Jan 13, 2012 10:02 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I don't think he wants out
but you have to think that if this team continues to lose, and frustration continues to mount, he might say the unthinkable. My worst fear is that a dark team will come in for Howard, because I don’t think Howard to the Nets is a given, even though many claim we are his first and ONLY choice.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Top 2 PG are you serious? What games are you watching?
And as far as Dwight wanting to be here, it woulod take every asset we have to get him. Then what? Even he acknoweldged that it would take more than him and dwill to win. How are we going to get a supporting cast around them. We can draft one because the picks will be gone for dwight. We can’t get it in free agency because the upcoming free agent class sucks. We can’t get it through trade because we will have no one to trade. So like i said, i don’t like how things are working out.
Now tell me that we are trading dwill for more picks in this upcoming deep draft, then I will be happy…
Getting DH12 and DWill is the priority
supporting cast can be found. Why people cannot understand this???
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Did you see what happen to Miami last season?
SMFH if you think its easy to find a good supporting cast after gutting your team. Top that off with the fact that if we get Howard via trade, we literally only have 3 good players that can actually play.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
I did see what happened to Miami
THEY WENT TO THE NBA FRIGGIN FINALS!
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by eLonepb on Jan 13, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Man I'm tired of this
When will people learn. Plus we still have picks and Proky can buy some. Vets usually want to play with a team that has a chance to win a ring. SUPPORTING CAST CAN BE FOUND. We only will have two max players. That leaves enough money for other pieces.
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the amount that we can spend on picks is limited now under the new CBA if I’m not mistaken.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
And lost because they lacked a supporting cast
A team with Lebron and Wade was guaranteed to make the Finals almost. Exactly how many holes can the Nets fill if they do trade for Howard?
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Do you want to go to Finals
or be in the middle. Yes Dallas won and Pistons won. Those are exceptions not the rule.
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Yes a supporting cast can be found...
Through drafting (we wouldn’t have any picks)
Through Trade (We would have nothing to trade)
and Through Free agency (the free agency class sucks)
So how else do we get this supporing cast?
getting a supporting cast is most doable.
We won’t be having long-term commitments beyond Dwight and Deron (they’ll accout for 60% of cap space). Then everybody else expires by next season (Farmar, Petro, Morrow, Shawne’s option). Turkoglu becomes an expiring the season after next.
So we get Dwight by the trade deadline, do our best. Next season, we’re fighting in the playoffs. Season after that, only Year 2 of Dwight and Deron, we have Turkoglu’s expirings and maybe some cap space. We’ll have a 5-year window anyway.
If we trade now
(assuming we trade Lopez, Brooks, Okur, Farmar, Petro, 3 picks)
We would have for next season:
D.Will
Morrow / Stevenson
Turkoglu / D.James
Humphries / Shawne W.
Dwight / Jordan W.
+
MLE
A shot at amnestied players
Vet minimum players
That’s good enough for me.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 13, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
We'd have to resign Hump
He could get a better offer, but we will have his bird rights.
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Exactly
His rights and I’m assuming we can keep Stevenson too.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
We can amnesty a player again?
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I re-read it and saw I missed it
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Up until he was teamed up with Johan Petro, Shawne Williams, a rookie, and a d-Leaguer...
Yes, he was the number 2, if not 1B PG in the league. He gets a pass considering this horrific team.
As for finding a supporting cast after a Dwight trade… Who cares? The Heat weren’t concerned last season and they made the Finals. LeBron choking in the 4th quarter again aside, they’ll likely win the Finals this year. Shane Battier went there for that reason. Vets will be here for that reason PLUS Brooklyn. We’ll be better off without the scrubs we have now.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jan 13, 2012 10:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
When did Dwight acknowledge that?
Those words I think you are referring to are Broussard’s.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 13, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
We have a top 2 PG?
Doesn’t look that way to me.
will look like that again when we get Dwight
or even when Lopez comes back
He is dishing 10+ assists in last few games
problem is TO. He cannot be the main scoring threat. He is a very good second option but not a first option. Handling the ball and dribbling to a crowd to score can result in TO. Plus our other guys are not in right spots sometimes. DWill is not the problem though improved shooting could definitely help the team. That will come.
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This.
Turnovers aside, he’s finding a way to dish out 10+ assists per game with a terrible supporting cast, no inside threat, and no main scoring option other than himself. Like I said above, outside of this year, he’s a top 2 PG in this league.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jan 13, 2012 10:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Problem isn't just turnovers
He’s also shooting terribly. Worst of all, he plays absolutely NO defense.
a good assist to turnover rate is 2.5 or 3.0 to 1
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He's Top 2 on this team
behind Jordan…….Farmar that is
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Nice
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The only thing I disagree with is most famous city in the world
but other than that, nice
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Just imagine DH12 can hit FT
he missed 18 yesterday.
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If he hasn't learned to hit free throws by now, then it aint happening in the future...
So Let’s say they give him the ball in playoffs with 3 minutes to left in the 4th quarter? Everyone will just fould him and make him make free throws. That’s not winning a championship. People really need to look at this thing from a basketball perspective and not a fan perspective. If we get dwight, we still will not have a go to guy when the game is tight and close against great teams…
Yeah yeah and Shaq couldn't either
Didn’t stop him from winning championships.
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Shaq carried those championship teams. Shaq is the reason they swept us.
Very true
but they both needed each other to win, which is obvious.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Unless Howard is going to play next to a player similar to Kobe
then he has a point, unless #8 becomes the scorer many here keep flip-flopping on.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Ehh Deron would be miles better than anyone Dwight has played with
You don’t need a Kobe next to Dwight.
That's debateble
Shaq dominated
-Ewing
-Divacs and Webber
-D Rob and Duncan
- R smits
-Mutumbo
- Sabonis
-Ming
-Mourning
Shaq played in the Golden era of bigmen and the only person who consistantly bested him was Hakeem (Who I think is the Best bigman ever)
Dwight looks good in a league with no decernable #2 center. any of the above bigs would dominate in today’s NBA
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
It is debatable
but Shaq was one of the hardest if not the hardest big man to guard.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
so don't pass him the ball in the last 3 minutes
he’s still going to stop them at the other end. It’s not like Shaq or Wilt, who you NEED to have score.
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by calling all toasters on Jan 13, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
The difference between howard and shaq is, shaq was unguardable...
Double teaming him didn’t work when he was in his prime.
Howard and Deron bounced out in the second round...
I’ll take the rebuilding process everyday of the week…
The rebuilding process does not equate to the OKC Thunder
Could just as easily be the Sacramento Kings or Washington Wizards
Don't forget the Timberwolves
or the Nets (how many consecutive lottery trips have we made)?
missing the point
if the team needed scoring at the end he could still be fouled. D12 doesn’t carry that kind of scoring burden.
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by calling all toasters on Jan 13, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
DWill is a go to guy down the stretch
Anyone would perform poorly with this surrounding cast. You can’t tell me everything DWill has done in his career is suddenly the inaccurate set of data and his play with this terrible team is the correct one
Who told you WE can't?
- has always had a average+ team when he was with the Jazz. My problem isn’t really the Nets play because I knew they were going to be bad, my beef is with Williams play along with the Nets play. I would have thought #8 would have been putting up crazy numbers on a bad team like most stars do, but I guess I was wrong.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly...
I have never heard of a star’s numbers going down on a bad team…
are you serious
He isn’t Derek Rose or a scoring PG first. he’s a passing PG. He should not be the first scoring option. SECONDLY..we’re using him as a SG.
He’s not even playing in his element nor to his strengths. For those of you who were expecting him to score 30 points and 15 assists you are being ridiculous.
Timeout
we talking about a guy that did well oversea’s as a SG and dropped 50. And many here wanted him there, even though I didn’t. And secondly, if your above post is true, your trying to tell us he’s not a Top 10 player and its better to compare him to Rondo instead of Paul. The guy averaged 20-10, which is great, but don’t tell me that was just fools gold. He’s been playing terribly for god knows what reason.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
20 seconds
Is he a top 10 player? Absolutely. Is he a top 10 dominant scorer that can takeover games and lead bad roster teams to win games all by himself? No….and unfortunately there aren’t that many in the league that can. I think if you’re going to compare Dwill you should compare him to Paul or Rose. Rondo has been playing well this season start but in the past he never really had a jump shot so I put Dwill above him in that regard.
I’m just saying we’re expecting TOO much from him with what he’s got to work with. You can’t give a blacksmith Iron and tell him to make Steel.
He has been playing worse than I’d like honestly but I think those faults are at our big men not doing what they are supposed to, cutting to the basket, back doors, pick and rolls, etc. Of course Dwill has his hands in those as well but in terms of his 14ppg and 8.2 apg so far, I can’t knock him for that. He’s doing what he’s supposed to. He starts shooting better that easily goes up to 18 ppg in my mind and if our bigs can stop fumbling the ball like we’re playing football he’d also have 2+ more assists / game.
Agreed with alot of your points
BUT, if I’m expecting too much out of a “Top 10 Player”, he ain’t Top 10 lol. Its understandable that his team is bad, but he’s playing horrible on every aspect of his game. Usually, you see star player put up inflated numbers because they get to do what they want on a bad team, but this seems to put up worse number some how. If Lopez didn’t go down, things might have been different, and I use the word might loosely here.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I see what you’re getting at Shameer and I’ll admit I agree with your points too. Let’s just hope that this debate of ours is ended and we both win because Dwill will shoot better and our team will actually win some games and instead of debating if he’s a top 10 player we can revel in our wins =)
Yeah, its all good for now lol
Hopefully he turns it around, otherwise this board isn’t going to get any nicer tonight lol
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Defensive pressure is of course a lot more than if he had other talented guys beside him
Name me one person on this team beside DWill the Phoenix Suns are gonna say “we have to guard him or else he’ll definitely sink us” to
OK, but he still sucks golf balls through a garden hose this year
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by calling all toasters on Jan 13, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Yea he missed a ton
but closed good i think
i think he was 11-26 when i went to bed
so he hit 10 of his last 13
and 45/23 is just sick
Hope we trade for Mayo this weekend.
1. He is a RFA. We can clear even more cap space this offseason. This fact means there is zero downside to accuiring him. Worse case scenario is that he is terrible for us and we let him walk. Morrow still has another year on his contract.
2. He is a strongside offensive player capable of initiating offense. DWill is getting doubled alot this year which limits his playmaking ability because no one else can create offense for us. Most of our players are spot up shooters and allows the opponent to recover from the double since no one can take it to the rim. Even Brooks is guilty of this because he holds the ball too long before making his move. Mayo would give us someone who can drive to the basket whiich helps open up the shooters we have.
3. We would be able to get into transition. This is the most important factor for trading for Mayo. Offensive linemen have more burst and lateral agility then Morrow. We simply cant have or SG being the slowest player on the court. Without a big man who can post up, we would be better suited to play an uptempo game to get easy baskets. Especially since our best player is DWill and his floor awareness in the open court would be maximized. DWill, Mayo and Brooks with Hump trailing as the cutter and Okur trailing as a shooter would make our offense better.
4. Our defensive would be better as well. As I mentioned Morrow is slow footed and his rotations suffer for it. He is one of the biggest reasons we have the worse defense vs 3pointers because he labors to get back on defense. He hurts our team defense. Mayo is coming from a defensive minded team and would give us alot more effort in chasing down perimeter shooters.
5.He is much more active on offense then Morrow. You would think as good a shooter as Morrow would run through screens more often to get open shots. But Morrow is to slow to do this which is why he just spots up and waits for the ball to come to him. This gives his defender a landmark for where Morrow will be and allows him to sag into passing lanes. Mayo is much better at running through screens on curls and would give us more looks in the halfcourt.
6.We might be able to trade him to Orlando instead of Swag. Mayo just turned 24 and is only a year and a month older then Brooks. He is the more established NBA player and might be more attractive to Orlando if they are set on not rebuilding.
For what we lose in 3 point shooting we make up for in
-Transition offense
-Transition defense
-Halfcourt offense
-Halfcourt defense
-Cap flexibilty
-Tradeable asset
This is a no brainer
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 10:30 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
Good God you could have made that a fan post
and the Mayo deal is dead for now for some reason. Rather the Nets aren’t giving up enough or the Nets want more.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Memphis prob wants the Rockets 1st round pick
I would give it to them since its lotto protected anyway. The Rockets are almost certainly NOT making the playoffs so it’s worthless as a trade asset with Orlando.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
How far is it protected to though?
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Your right that's useless then lol
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
It's too good to be true.
Mayo would be a great fit.
IDK why other dont see it.
Who else is an expiring contract with Mayo’s offensive skills and upside?
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
So why aren't other teams jumping on him if he is THAT good?
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
exactly! memphis has been trying to trade this guy for a while now
There’s a reason for that!!!
by alexcontreras on Jan 13, 2012 10:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
chicago wanted him last year
but they didnt want to part with asik. They almost dealt him to indy but the deal fell through. Itso nly cause hes too similar to rudy gay and he doesnt fit into their long term plans. Its a good trade for both sides.
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
He would actually thrive with the Bulls not that you bring it up.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Mayo has been unsucessfully traded twice.
Not that many teams need scoring help from their SG. we might start the worst SG in the league in Morrow
NY Shumpert, Douglas
Tor Derozan
Phi Iggy, Turner
Bos Allen
Chi Hamilton
Indy George
Mil S Jax
Cle NEED HELP
Det Gordon
Mia Wade
Atl J Johnson
Cha NEED HELP
Orl J Rich Reddick
OKC Harden
Port Matthews, Crawford
Utah NEED HELP
Min NEED HELP
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LAL Kobe
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Memphis has limited trading partners and you would think they would rather trade him to the East
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
I hope so because that is one less team looking for a scoring SG
Mayo has starting talent. Morrow does not. Memphis doesnt have money to resign him so they seem almost destined to trade.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Mayo was lost in their lineup last season...
and is getting playing time now so he can up his value. He’ll be traded and I’m glad Nets are one of the pursuers.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
howard wants to play with morrow
Open looks all day for him with Howard down low
by alexcontreras on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Howard has said he cannot even remember that Russian interview
of the question. that’s the only evidence we have that Howard wants to play with Morrow.
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Mayo would be such a big help to this team...
Putting him at the 2 and moving Marshon to the three would definitely be a boost to this offense…
Brooks cannot play 3
Most 3s in NBA would abuse him. He is a 2 and should be played as 2.
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by NDTony on Jan 13, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Brooks is more of a mismatch at 3 then 2
One of Brooks’s drawbacks is that he doesnt play fast as a 2. Smaller defenders play him better.
As a 3 he gets to his spots easier. Although he gives up alot of size as a 3 his length makes up for it ala Tayshaun Prince.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
i have a feeling that morrow can bring in a better pl62
by alexcontreras on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You are overrating Morrow.
Avery planned on transforming him on a more dynamic type of player like Ray Allen, obviously that didn’t happen.
He just doesn’t have the tools to be a solid player, plays crappy defense and his only weapon is the jump shoot.
If you can trade for a young player with a mix of talent and upside you do it.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
Only weapon is his
Set shot, mine is sweet as well.
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by D Will to Succeed on Jan 13, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah but Mayo is an expiring
Which is half of his value to us
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
One thing is for sure
Dwill better WAKE UP.
Utah is 6-4
Unless he wakes up and tells AVERY that this SG experiment should be over, he is going to look like he wasnt that important to Utah’s success.
That excuse is gone.
He hasn’t played SG for four games.
oh so deron is a cancer i guess..lol
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 13, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
What is your problem with DWill
He is the only, I repeat ONLY reason DH12 even consider playing for us. BK knows what he is doing. Relax and be patient.
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We are watching a made-up children’s game for entertainment. Why should he have to be patient? This team isn’t fun to watch. We aren’t running the business or playing “franchise mode” in a video-game. I want to see a competitive team, or a young team with room to improve. “Waiting” for possibly getting Dwight Howard isn’t fun.
Isn't this where people post Devin Harris and Derrick Favors stats?
6-4 is the only stat I need to see.
Good point
but D-Willz is averaging 17-8, blasting what we traded him for out of the water. Oh, and then we realize its a team game and were 2-9.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Wonderful
Utah is 6-4. Congratulations. They’re winning the battle, but not the war. Right now they have an overachieving bunch that will never do anything ever.
Look at the Broncos, they’re somehow in the AFC Divisional Game but Tebow is NOT an NFL QB. They’re being hoisted up by a solid defense and an unfamiliar offensive system that catches defenses off guard. But it would’ve been in their best interest for Tebow to not pull those games out of his behind and for them to lose so they can draft an actual QB.
Kind of like Sanchez, whose SEVERAL major flaws were covered up by a monstrous defense. Once the defense went away and Sanchez had to carry them, they became the middling team they always were.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 13, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Is Brook back yet? Did we trade for Mayo? Is it draft time? Do we have Dwight Howard? No? OK, see ya later.
Brook is doing just fine...
Except for his broken arm and foot he’s watching his diet and should be back shortly…
When did Brook break his arm???
J-Kidd to D-Will
It's probably taken after his shoulder surgery
by Jack Handy Jr on Jan 13, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah that was a sad day Joe...
when they threw you out of Barclays Center for getting a little too friendly with Mini-Sly…
how can you not like this big goof ball
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by kory raymond on Jan 13, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Always wondered the same
he and his buddy Anderson would have been a good offensive combo
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
damn lockout
If it wasn’t for the lockout
brook might not have injured himself
We would have better chemistry
Players in better shape
Dwight might have been a net already
by alexcontreras on Jan 13, 2012 10:47 AM EST via mobile reply actions
damn greedy players...
they asked for this in my opinion…
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
Stevenson might be the reason we lost last game.
This is the chance Nets get to build some momentum going home… Phoenix and Utah are winnable games, I’m just not betting any money on a win.
Go Nets!
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L-O-S-S
Not even staying up to watch it……..Total waste of Life……..Another bumbled up year for this disorganized franchise……..
Suns did play last night
we should have the advantage tonight
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Its Redd I'm actually worried about
dude was stroking it last night, can’t believe no one jumped on that man for what they signed him for.
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if he signed anywhere else he would be out until March
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 13, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
I see what you did there
and I like it
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Deron williams did not recruit the players we have now
The only reason we missed out on all the other free agents was because the nets put all their faith in getting dwight. Dwight is the only player Dwill has recruited. Either way if we don’t get dwight and Dwill leaves we still have Brooklyn as our home stadium and eventually the next superstar free agents will see bk as a great opportunity to play at.
by netsfanallday on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions
STOP
these players were agreed by Dwill.
ShaWill should never have been a Net. Remember we dumped this guy.
Stevenson is a player we needed but I am pretty sure Dwill OKed it.
Okur is definitely a Dwill choice.
by SIC One on Jan 13, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yea and they all signed 1 year deals soo we can have cap space for dwight. if u think dwill thinks this team was making playoffs then u should be gm cuz obviously u no sooo much basketball than anyone in the nets orgamization
by netsfanallday on Jan 13, 2012 11:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I never said this team was making the playoffs
Dwill wanted Veterans.
Stevenson and Okur are veterans with Championship rings.
As for 1 year deals, Dwill had a part in that too. Clearly Dwill, Dwight and BKing know something about next offseason. Dwill knows something that is why he says BIGGER PICTURE.
ok then why do u sound piss like this is all dwill fault.
Obviously its the franchise that chose this path
by netsfanallday on Jan 13, 2012 11:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
DWILL picked these guys too
That’s been well documented.
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picked them thinking dwight was coming sooner then later
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by kory raymond on Jan 13, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
He is part of it
He has been playing badly.
All our PGs have been playing badly. They were suppose to be playing better because they were in Europe, but they havent. They are still playing Euro Ball.
they still thought they had a shot at getting dwight before march
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by kory raymond on Jan 13, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Who cares
I dont know why everyone gets so upset about anything that happens right now
Nothing matters until March 15th
Deron’s body language and attitude and effort – dont care. If we get Dwight, he will be a new man - are ppl gonna hold a grudge over this garbage? dont be ridiculous
everyone hang in there and try to stay relaxed. absolutely none of this matters
by Dep on Jan 13, 2012 11:44 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
agree but ppl here start freaking out Like if they expect one man with an injured starting center to take us on his back
by netsfanallday on Jan 13, 2012 11:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
ha, yea, i hear that
and i know its very tough to deal with on a game by game basis. our defensive “effort” makes me feel ill sometimes.
But none of it matters. this team is an absolutely temp roster in a holding pattern
March 15th will be day 1 of the Brooklyn Nets, one way or the other. Everything else will cease to matter
You want your leader to be a leader
Win or lose.
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and again if we get Dwight in March
And Dwill becomes what we want
we’re not going to forgive him for this period of garbage?
plz
i already forgave him
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 13, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
If you are a true fan...
you have to care your team is losing… no matter the circumstances.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
Yea that's true
I guess I mean care, but dont beat yourself up too too much over it
and one could easily make the argument LOSING is in this teams best interest right now
the stronger our draft pick is, the better off we are – either to get dwight or to rebuild after deron leaves.
Says who?
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 13, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
actually winning some games does matter
by RandyOreens on Jan 13, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Really?
What if we can scrap together a few and stay within sniffing distance of an 8th seed?
Then if we get Dwight, at least we have a possible run in us.
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That's a nice bonus
but long term, i cant say it matters if we make a run at the 8 this year or not
again, i just dont agree. i respect your opinion on it tho
and i can easily argue
our record being as close to worst in the league come March 15th does more for this organization long-term than a pseudo run at the 8 seed
While I don't disagree
This team still has to win some games.
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I do understand what you are saying
And despite what i’m saying in this thread right now, i still root and hope for wins every game
Hopefully the team will gel and start figuring out something on the defensive end, cuz man that makes the games really tough to watch. our perimeter D is about as bad as can be
hurry back stevenson
seriously
i can’t believe some people are ok with Losing because we “MIGHT” get Dwight.
we are all in on him and i doubt that he is all in on us, Dwight and Deron have a contigency plan (Dallas) and we dont..
if we are 4-25 at the deadline that contigency plan probably becomes there objective and there wont be anything we can do about it…
by watchoutBLo on Jan 13, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I even think it is beyond March 15
I think Dwill knows the plans but didnt think it was going to be this tough.
Plan A – Dwight trade
Plan B – Tank, Get high Pick, Sign Dwight, Sign other VET FAs, and round out roster with young players with small drafted contracts.
2012-2013
Dwill, Brooks, Barnes, FA PF, Howard
FA PG, Morrow, Stevenson, Hump?, JWill, Pick Pick
I want you to read what you just wrote......
and look at last year, and the year before that Netsdaily comments. Its the same thing over and over, lebron, carmelo, dwight. Your’re right i don’t care.
again, i repeat my request. if we are going to lose
let’s lose in a different way.
worked last time…
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wow
sounds like the gf got a hold of his phone.
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 13, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
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Welp, I'm keeping the faith
Just bought 2 tickets to the Nets vs Hornets game. First home game after the trade deadline.
At least the team will probably look different.
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suns dont have much athleticism in their lineup
Shannon Brown and Hakim Warrick thats it. The other guys who arent 35 years old just run to spot up for threes.
If nets can put in even a half-hearted effort on defense then they should keep this close.
there is no reason unless Steve Nash plays like he is in 2005 that Nash should go off on Deron. And i dont care how many threes he makes, unless he has like 10 in the first half, if Ammo lets Dudley or Redd go off then he needs to sit. I dont know if anyone caught this but I read in Ammo’s player notes that he tried to trip Fernandez and picked up a Tech because he kept getting picked on in Denver.
this may be a good thing for the D though. Hump can play Gortat and Memo and Channing can take turns roaming the 3 point line.
and if Petro must play, please Lord let him realize that he needs to reign in his arrogance on the court and play within his limits
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 13, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions
if ammo....
there is no doubt in my mind that morrow get s abused tonight , it doesnt matter who the person is.
anthony morrow and about 5 other guys on this team dont belong in the NBA
by watchoutBLo on Jan 13, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
It's all a matter of being competitive for the entire game...
and not needing a “heroic effort” to come back within the closing minutes. Sometimes all this team seems to lack is energy and hustle.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
You lost me at
The other guys who arent 35 years old just run to spot up for threes.
This is our Kryptonite
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
This Nets team reminds me of some Yankee teams that made no name pitchers and rookies seem like all stars.
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For everyone defending Morrow and think he is untouchable
Morrow was defending on most of the plays when Gallo and Brewer lit us up in Den.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 12:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The whole team sucked on perimeter D
That’s on everybody, including Avery for not preparing our team. We should’ve stayed home on shooters and let Nene kill us with turnaround fadeaway jumpers.
Guys were driving by us too though, so the defense has to adjust.
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Another year and yet another wxcuse for Morrow
He is quite possiblly the worse starting SG in the NBA
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
We win this game.
Book it.
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by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 13, 2012 12:30 PM EST reply actions
Quick poll
Do you support trading Morrow for OJ Mayo ?
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by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 13, 2012 12:35 PM EST reply actions
I want to say no
not sure though.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Nicely put
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
nets didnt have to give brooks up in dec. why now? a deal was in place then the magic owners nixed it. if its truly lakers or nets and lakers want to keep bynum....magic have have no leverage being nets is dwights top choice anyway.
by NetsFan4e88 on Jan 13, 2012 12:49 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
No - IF Dwight is serious about wanting to play with him
This team is an absolute disgrace of a squad, and if the 2 things that make Dwight want to come here are Morrow & Deron, then I’m keeping both and everybody else can go.
If Dwight was just saying it on friendly terms, and doesn’t care at all about Morrow, then yes he can go.
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So sam amick reporting Dwight has no interest in playing for the warriors,
What a shocker!
Don’t believe everything you read simple as that.
At the end of the day Dwight WILL be traded after ASB and before march 15. The only question is to who nets or lakers?
If lakers want him they will get him, lakers don’t want him, nets WILL get Dwight
That’s my feeling
lol thanks for the indepth analysis
Don’t believe everything you read simple as that.
So why is everyone swearing that Dwight requesting a trade to NJ 100% happened?
he said everything. imo, hearing i want to go here and i dont want to go there sounds 100% if u ask me
by NetsFan4e88 on Jan 13, 2012 12:50 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
when did dwight ever say
“i want to goto the nets”? He requested a trade. Thats it, but “sources” say its LA or Nets.
he said nets are his top choice....thus "i want to go to the nets"
by NetsFan4e88 on Jan 13, 2012 3:10 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
no he never said that.....
find me proof. “sources say nets are his first choice” he never out right said anything.
He's true
many here are gullible and believe what they want. NOT SAYING Howard doesn’t want to come here.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
exactly why i did my Romney-Outlaw tweet 2 days ago. to show people on the site how gullible they are and not o believe everything they read
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by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 13, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Also called trolling
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Yep, everyone is a troll now all of a sudden
The army is getting bigger the more we lose
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 13, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Definition of " Trolling "
One who posts a deliberately provocative and off-topic message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.
Had i said " Romney is a racist who should die " , That is trolling .
I wanted to prove a point , which what i did
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by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 13, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
a perfect example
back when dwight requested the trade and then 4 days later it was reported that he changed his mind and considered staying… didnt buy that for 1sec
by NetsFan4e88 on Jan 13, 2012 12:58 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I honestly don't know what to believe, so I just stop believing
whatever happens, happens.
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I know what I believe
That’s why I bought tickets to the first home game after the deadline.
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some of us are just skeptical about the Nets future, which isn’t a crime
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Uh ... no.
He’s excited about watching Greg Oden try to resurrect his career in Brooklyn.
lakers do want him
i think it will come down to marshon brooks play the next 2 months… if hes still top 3 on the rookie rankings it will make our deal so much better
by William_H_HOLLA on Jan 13, 2012 12:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Or if Dwight indeed is saying "Nets or nothing"
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i read that as
damion james out with stone hands
by William_H_HOLLA on Jan 13, 2012 12:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Riiiight
FredKerber – DWilliams says he is trying to stay upbeat w/Nets but it’s tough. “I never lost this much in my career.”
You’ve also never played this bad in your career. We’re all accountable Deron.
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Pretty much
His whining is starting to annoy me now.
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 13, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Wait until he gets a Migraine or Serious Diarrhea
then that’s when you know he wants out
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The problem is
he was lucky to be drafted by the Jazz.
He was spoiled.
Sloan coaching and AK47, Boozer, Okur, and Harping is pretty good starting lineup.
I would say it worked out good for both ways
D-Willz isn’t a bad player, just not the player his numbers indicate.
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Fred Kerber @FredKerber Close
DWilliams says he is trying to stay upbeat w/Nets but it’s tough. “I never lost this much in my career.”
More MarShon Please
i totally understand but...
Being careless with the ball
Not hustling when he turns the ball over
Missed defensive assignments
Not being aggressive in the 1st Q
Not being aggreessive when the other team goes on a run
Sulking
Is not excuseable
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 13, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
DWill needs to start holding himself accountable instead of putting the blame on the team. This is inexcusible
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 1:07 PM EST reply actions
just got word from someone in my student org
that 7 Nets players are coming to promote a scholarship at my school next Friday the 20th. one of them will be Deron. ahh so excited i hope i can talk to him
Which school is this?
can I come? lol
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can't share any info >.>
but i will take pictures if i can. i’m sure there won’t be a meet and greet or anything but since i’m in the org. i can probably talk to him
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 13, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Cool
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Ask him if he misses playing with Outlaw
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 13, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
why cant you say what school you go to
by devin34harris on Jan 13, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
well i could say
but per the agreement we sign, i can’t disclose information about events until a public announcement is made.
i’ve already said too much, this message will self-destruct in 5 seconds
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 13, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
hey did you watch RUTGERS crush pittsburgh the other night?
that was embarrassing. glad pittsburgh is going to the acc
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I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 13, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Sloan vs. Avery Johnson/Billy King
Sloan didn’t let D-Will run the organization and had an unhappy D-Will and a top 4-5 team in the tough Western Conference.
Johnson/King lets D-Will run the organization and have an unhappy D-Will and one of the worst teams in the league.
JJ for 3!
Again, the big picture is Dwight
If it doesn’t work out, we can scream at him all we want. But he knows what Dwight wants. Billy knows what Dwight wants. Everyone knows what the Nets are up to.
If they pull it off, was it all worth it?
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we've discussed this before and we disagree. I say NO it is NOT
…unless he comes here as a FA.
think we’ll give up too much and never be a championship team with just those two egomaniacs on the team.
JJ for 3!
correcting myself
with just those two egomaniacs and some minor role players, and Hedo and Duhon.
JJ for 3!
i would argue
that Deron and Dwight are hardly egomaniacs. you want to deal with egos? look at other stars. LeBron, Wade, Kobe, Melo, Amare, Garnett, Pierce, Ellis, Odom, etc. etc.
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 13, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
One forced his coach to retire and the other one is always butting heads with SVG, but SVG is no punk.
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no no no
haven’t you read anything? the idea that Deron forced Sloan out is simply not true. ask eLone for sources, i know he had some info
and if you think Dwight has an ego, i don’t know where you’re getting that from. he was hesitant to leave because he was worried about the fans being upset with him. how is that egotistical?
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 13, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Hesitant my Moiso
HE’S LEAVING ANYWAYS!!! If he really cared what others think he wouldn’t be leaving a place that worships him. And D-Willz and Sloan always were in disagreements, but I do think he contributed to Sloan’s decisions along with Jazz future decisions. Maybe Sloan will write a book and tell us one day.
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100 percent yes
D Will in 2011...BK in 2012....
by O Dog on Jan 13, 2012 1:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah DWill stop with the puss on your face. You look like Jay Cutler
The slumped shoulders, the cold stares, the resigned expressions. They’ve all been a part of this lost season with the Nets as he heads to Utah on Saturday for a reminder of what winning basketball was once about. Those choice words he had for Jerry Sloan, which led to Williams being shipped to the Nets, are nothing compared to the nightly vocabulary he uses on the court without actually moving his lips. Even Williams caught himself in the act. “I could tell my body language was bad the last couple games, so it’s something I wanted to change,” he said he other day, after a loss to the Hawks. “I’ve got to do a better job of leading these guys. They can’t see me frustrated, visibly frustrated.” NBA.com
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 1:21 PM EST reply actions
And then he went on to make the body language worse
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haha i hate jay cutler
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 13, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
More like Phillip Rivers
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From the Alex Kennedy chat
Jason
Do you think the magic can go after D-will if they get another team involved?
Alex Kennedy
I’ve been told that the New Jersey Nets aren’t too happy with the Orlando Magic. Last month, the Magic and Nets agreed to a deal involving Dwight Howard, but Orlando’s ownership stepped in and stopped it at the last second. New Jersey was upset because they thought they had landed Howard. Then, several days later, Brook Lopez fractured the fifth metatarsal in his right foot. The Nets were annoyed that the Magic backed out of the deal and they were angry when Lopez went down because he shouldn’t have even been on their roster had things gone as planned. After everything that happened, it’s hard to imagine New Jersey turning around and trading Deron Williams to Orlando, but we’ll see what happens.
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I don’t blame Orlando ownership to veto the trade
1.They were getting robbed in that trade big time
2. Why not have your superstar representing the Orlando magic in the Allstar
Game that is in Orlando
It just made no sense for Orlando to trade before the season
Now Chris Paul getting traded I understood
Well Stern made sure if he was going to trade a star
he was going to get back something worth value.
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wow
this franchise is just cursed. we’re not getting Howard, I’m sure of it.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
D will on losing again.
Ledger_Nets Colin Stephenson
Deron Williams on losing: “People think I’m just being an a**hole, but I just hate to lose… I don’t sleep well when I lose.”
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 13, 2012 1:27 PM EST reply actions
How many games until he actually blows a fuse?
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he blew one last game thats why he got thrown out
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Jason
Is the rumor about Kobe and Dwight challenging each other over texts true?
Alex Kennedy
I know for a fact that Kobe and Dwight have been in contact. I’m not sure what has been said, but I know that they’ve talked recently.
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I'm sure this is b.s.
because anything that doesn’t lead one to believe that Dwight wants to play with Deron here is automatically false on NetsDaily
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Can't blame him for that
I got mad when in NBA 2k12 I got asked to be traded to the Nets, and my wish was granted, but they gave up D-Will and Brook to get me, so I was left with a bunch of scrubs. If I felt like that in a video game, idk what it would be like losing so much in real life
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omg...
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
i'm the same way
i get PISSED when i lose, and for an athlete playing at the level he is, i don’t blame him at all
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 13, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
this is what i mean
his body language is only like it is because he isn’t used to being on a non-playoff team
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
its hysterical
how people get mad at deron for playing bad and pouting, blah blah.
you really dont realize how bad this team is without brook and with the new faces. the offense is basically “deron pls create shots despite us having no post presence and nobody else who can create a shot.”
and the defense is horrendous, hystorically awful, as the wings are too small/soft, and the bigs are a disgrace on the ball.
The team was constructed for an inside outside game based on a big and a PG… we lost the big… what did you expect?
this team is EPICALLY horrible… other stars have had bad supporting cast but they still played defense… this team does not.
get a clue…
A leader plays hard through good and bad times.
I expect DWill’s best reguardless of who is on the floor.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
great in theory..
and he is playing hard… they just stink.
people who shout these rah rah comments either never were a good player on a bad team… or have no idea how bad the supporting cast is.
the team STINKS. he is not shooting well… hes trying.. just not shooting well. if he made more shots, you would think he is trying… but he is not cause he is pressing as we STINK
by Hitdog42 on Jan 13, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So in short terms he is NOT a star nor is he Top 10 or a Franchise player?
Because he sure as hell ain’t playing like it through 11 games, 55 more games to prove he is.
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hes trying.. just not shooting well. if he made more shots, you would think he is trying… but he is not cause he is pressing as we STINK
How does shooting poorly explain that he is leading the NBA in Turnovers/Game. That shows a blatant lack of interest. As a point guard your number 1 priority is to take care of the ball. A poor shot is always better then no shot/turnover
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
the fact his teammates are HORRIBLE
i would love to hear your evaluation on the talent around him this year…. hwo is he supposed to not have a lot of turnovers… they play no defense so its uptempo and the guys cant catch, cut, score… period
What does his teamates have to do with turnovers. Its an individual stat.
hwo is he supposed to not have a lot of turnovers…
IDK maybe dont pass it to the other team or dribble the ball off yourself
they play no defense so its uptempo and the guys cant catch, cut, score… period
I can count on 1 hand the number of fast breaks we have had this year.
Turnovers are due to a lack of focus not about the talent around him.
You seem to be of the opinion that DWill takes no resposiblity in our record. I guess DWill shooting 35.4% isnt his fault either?
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
TO / Assist ratio
as a PG he will have a lot of turnovers but as long as he is pumping out assists (8.2 ppg) he will still be considered effective. And it does have a lot to do with his teammates for passing turnovers. I’ve only seen 4 blatant terrible passes by Dwill so far (I’ve watched every game) that had no chance, the other turn overs majority are because he gets trapped and his teammates do not cut nor get into an open spot for him to pass to.
It’s like faulting him for driving to the lane and getting penetration and drawing defenders and yelling at him for turning the ball over when nobody else rotated or cut to the basket to open up for a pass out.
Ive watched every game also and DWill isnt playing well no matter how you try and spin it.
He isnt shooting Well
He is turning the ball over
He is playing poorly on defense, (see Jeff Teague’s numbers vs us if you wish to dispute.)
DWill’s play is a big reason why we are 2-9
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
The way I look at it right now...
Deron is the big reason we aren’t 0-11…
Deron has nobody around him. He maybe trying to do too much and I just hope AJ don’t wear him out.
WOW he contrinuted to TWO WHOLE WINS
pop the champaine
He contributed to all 9 loses as well. As the best player of the team the blame falls to him just as the rewards do in victory.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't say he was playing well.
I’m just saying you’re putting too much blame on Dwill.
I agree that he isn’t shooting well but him turning the ball over I don’t feel is all on him. If your PG has nobody to pass to that is effective, or gets trapped and his teammates don’t react to help him out then yes he will turn it over.
As for Jeff Teague, you can’t use one team matchup (even over 3 games) to say he isn’t playing good defense. Jeff Teague didn’t just destroy Dwill, he destroyed the NETS as a whole. Our entire rotation defense couldn’t match up to Teague’s quickness. And a number of times during those hawk games, it was on a switch or pick that Jeff Teague was able to do what he did. Not because deron was playing defense directly. Although I will point out that means teams with quick small agile point guards (ie, Rondo, Paul, etc) will more than likely destroy us in a game.
Lastly, we are 2-9, but one of the few people I’ve seen actual effort IS DWill. I tend to think people expect him to put up 20-10 every game and if he isn’t that means he isn’t trying. Has he had bad games over our 11 season so far? Yes, but in terms of effort, all I see is Dwill, Brooks, Humps, Morrow, Stevenson and Okur. Nobody else.
Max players put up 20-10 every night with no excuses
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
If memory serves me right Chris Paul was missing alot of players last year
and still gave the Lakers a run for their money.
The amount of homerism on NetsDaily is rediculous. Im a big fan of DWill hence DWill-of-the-GODZ but Im not going to excuse poor play.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
I like your passion
and I understand where you’re coming from and why you’re saying what you’re posting. It’s all good. I do agree that he isn’t playing well and let’s look to tonight’s game to hopefully turn it around. 83% of the season left, we can still do this!
and yet Chris Paul has less playoff wins and never made a conference finals appearance
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 13, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
He sure as hell gave the Lakers all he had though
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D-Will is NOT beyond reproach.
The fact that his teammates are by and large, awful does not absolve him from being criticized for his piss-poor individual play.
He is The Man on this team — he’s the highest paid and most talented player and as a result, a lot is expected of him.
He’s not living up to the standards that he’s set for himself, nor the standards that are expected of an elite PG.
by Delacratic on Jan 13, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
most of this team
doesnt deserve to play a meaningful minute on a good team. so when that is the case… and u play a tough schedule to start…. and injuries, ect… no chemistry, its impossible for the PG. and the team defense is TERRIBLE. so we are forced to take more chances. avery has NO OFFENSE other then screen a roll for deron with spot up useless 1 dimensional shooter in the corner.
has deron played well? hell frigging no.
but we maybe have 1 more win if he does. the team STINKS… there is noting to complain about just accept it til brook comes back then evaluate.
I agree he should be critcized, but give credit where it's due.
He deserves to be criticized yes, but I tend to think people don’t really understand what type of basketball player DWill really is. He is not a kobe bryant or dwayne wade or lebron james or carmelo anthony etc. He is not a type of player that you should have scoring offensively night in and night out. He’s not that type of star. Did anyone watch him play when he was in Utah? Is he capable of scoring 20-30 points a game? YES. is he capable of shooting, driving, penetrating to the lane, crossing people over, absolutely! But is he a 2 guard or 3 forward who will score the dominant amount of your points? No. Think about Rose, Paul, Rondo, etc. they all have someone they can count on either in the post or on the perimeter or a slasher to take responsibility of scoring while they supplement the scoring as a PG.
Right now we only have marshon brooks and ammo. Okur can score but he’s not a low post precense, he’s a big who stands on the 3 point line to stretch the floor.
We’re missing the low post presence ie, Brook Lopez.
good assessment
and ammo isnt good either. so basically brooks is it
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It looks like Dallas might be sellers this year do you think there would be a way to get Jason Terry into a Chicago Bulls Uniform. I think he would be the perfect complement on a team that needs instant offense off the bench even tho the bench has come thru big in crunch time.
Ric Bucher
Don’t see it. Dallas doesn’t want to take on money and last I checked Bulls don’t have an expiring contract big enough to fit the bill. By the way, I can’t help but think that Mark Cuban knows he’s going to get Deron Williams or Dwight Howard – or both – by the way he’s positioning his team to have cap space. And keep in mind, he has a great relationship with the agent for both players. JKidd is a Jeff Schwartz (Deron) guy and Dan Fegan (DH) has Shawn Marion.
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by eLonepb on Jan 13, 2012 1:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
UHHHHHHH YAAAAWWWNNNNNNN
Im growing tired of reporters making there opinion and personal bias news.
Dwight said he wants the Nets. Not the Lakers, not the Mavs, not the Hawks, not the Warriors, not the Knicks. As hard as these reporter/trolls try to spin it otherwise, the fact tha Dwight wants to be a Net isnt going to change.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 13, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
It's a chat, not an article
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Exactly
In a chat. This isn’t some piece he wrote for ESPN.
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There's some trepidation there for me as well.
It just doesn’t seem like Cuban would do all this positioning if he didn’t know something. Although, it could be him taking a calculated risk — just as the Nets are doing.
or he could just be tampering with Deron
or already has done so.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
but if he said “I believe that Dwight to the Nets by the deadline has a 100% chance of happening”, would you say the same?
I wager that you wouldn’t.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
i dont know why reporters fail to mention that
Nets are dwights 1 choice. Last year with melo it was always ny his #1 choice. We cant catch a break. Dwight needs to speak uop and say nets or nothing.
by 1stnamelastname on Jan 13, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Because clearly if the Lakers and Mavericks are on his preferred list, they will take precedent over us. Mavs are a perennial playoff contender. The Lakers have won 2 championships within the past 5 years. Nets have been the worst franchise in basketball over the last five years.
and Dwight won’t speak up and say “Nets or nothing”, which is why I get a good laugh when people on here automatically assume that this guy is itching to come here
Kobe is playing great basketball, Deron is playing like garbage and sulking every game. Yet, we’re supposed to believe that it’s Nets or nothing.
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
i will never respect nor credit bucher ever again
after he said LeBron was the 3rd best player in the league. that is just lunacy
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 13, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Bernard (Philadelphia)
With Otis Smith stating they won’t trade Howard until after the All Star Game, and with Bynum getting more touches offensively are the Lakers and Orlando going to trade straight up Howard/Bynum with draft pics? Are the Lakers and Nets talking a Pau/Williams trade?
Ric Bucher 2:07 PM ET
Everyone I’ve talked to in the league just can’t see it. LA picks just aren’t high enough, for one. And if you’re Orlando, no matter how well Bynum is playing, you can’t hitch everything to him. You need picks and another young player to at least cover you from coming up empty if Bynum goes down again. But waiting until after the all-star break really screws up both the Lakers and Nets. For the Lakers, it means waiting until it may be too late to find a groove for this year with Howard, and if it costs both Gasol and Howard to get him, are you really that much better this year? That’s why Lakers are contemplating moving Gasol to improve now. Which would take them out of the Howard race if they did.
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HowardBeckNYT Howard Beck
Mikhail Prokhorov to @HarveyAraton: "My interest in owning the Nets has not diminished at all." nyti.ms/z80WC3
From same article...
"Regarding team operations, I hate to disillusion anyone, but I do not make the day-to-day decisions," he added. "We have a superb management team in place and I see my role as lending vision and strategy ideas, but not intruding on their good judgment."
Asked if he would have to be addressed as Mr. President in the Nets’ locker room should his campaign be successful, Prokhorov said: "I would make a special exception, just for Nets players. They can keep calling me Mikhail."
"I welcome an environment in which you have to compete, to bring your A game," Prokhorov said in the e-mail. "My experience as an owner in the Euroleague was great, but basically you could spend as much as you wanted to create a championship team. It was like checkers and the N.B.A. is chess. You have to count many, many moves ahead. I believe this makes for an interesting environment, and, yes, sometimes a bumpy ride."
'sometimes a bumpy ride'?
The Nets have been driving down an unpaved road full of ditches and holes before I was even born
by MrDollarBills on Jan 13, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
It the Ladies Man!
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 13, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Nice, here's what he says
3. MarShon Brooks, Nets
As it stands, Brooks is the best pure scorer in this class. A lot can change as the season evolves (ask Clippers fans who watched Al-Farouq Aminu last season), but Brooks has shown the talent to slash for buckets while also making almost 40 percent of his 3s. I like that he’s mixing in both skills rather than one or the other. That kind of versatility makes him a tougher guy to defend.
I often tell people we should stop using height as a measuring stick for players and start using a metric combining someone’s size from the floor to the top of the player’s shoulders along with wingspan. Brooks would be one of my poster children for this. At 6-foot-5, he’s a bit smaller than ideal for a shooting guard, but he’s a tall man from shoulders to floor. Plus, his huge wingspan helps him overwhelm many guards who are listed at his size.
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and from Hollinger
3. MarShon Brooks, New Jersey
The 25th pick in the draft, Brooks has wowed with his shot-creating skills. Unexpectedly, he’s also been fairly efficient, which was a problem for him in college.
Brooks has become the Nets’ go-to scorer by default, averaging a team-best 21.7 points per 40 minutes for the league’s 23rd-ranked offensive team. This isn’t just a guy putting up numbers on a bad team, either; Brooks’ 55.7 TS% is in the top third of all shooting guards, and he’s been a major plus on the boards. While he can suffer from tunnel vision offensively, and it remains to be seen if he can continue shooting this accurately, he’s a major steal if he plays anywhere remotely this well.
Brooks unexpectedly leads all rookies in estimated wins added, although it’s a close three-way race. Two factors will hurt him, however, in the Rookie of the Year race. First, his team — the fact that New Jersey gets hammered every game will weigh negatively on him since he’ll be seen as just a gunner. Second, however, is the hype factor — the two point guards ahead of him are simply generating more highlights, and that can be tough to overcome.
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 13, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Just Marshon being mentioned in the ROY conversation is awesome!
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 13, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
More non-news and baseless speculation
Nothing to see here. A waste of pixels.
Plan A all the way: Brook, Brooks, Deron, Dwight and a top draft pick SF
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jan 13, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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