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Barclays Center "Tops Out"

Brooklyn Sports & Entertainment

In construction circles, "topping out" is a big deal. It's a ceremony held when the last beam is placed at the top of a building. That ceremony took place in Brooklyn Thursday as 500 construction workers gathered with Bruce Ratner and officials the various contractors who work on Barclays Center.

The arena is still seven and a half months from completion --and eight and a half from opening night-- but Thursday marked the erection of the last of 10,400 tonnes of structural steel at the billion dollar arena. Ratner told the workers, "In just eight months we will open Barclays Center and bring many exciting events here, where your hard work will be appreciated by millions of people for years to come".

The Nets provided 1,000 free tickets for weekend games to the construction workers.

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by jayz, dwight and deron

Mets/Jets/Nets/Lakers OFWGKTA. FREE EARL. twitter @ampatel11

Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.

by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 4:40 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

The roof, the roof, the roof is on……………

Such a bizarre vibe in Orlando. Feels like divorcing parents trying to play nice in front of the kids until the inevitable separation. Stefan Bondy Twitter 12/28/11

by Crush1 on Jan 12, 2012 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

As a former Brooklynite,

this would bring a small tear of joy to my eye…

if only:

I didn’t hate the motivation behind the move;
the betrayal of the New Jersey fans;
the eminent domain factor in BK;
the terrible course this move as put us on;
the ‘basketball’ moves that have been made to make this move ‘work’ or look a certain way;
and the fact that I have grown to hate the one that should be called “Condor”

by Jron on Jan 12, 2012 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

Explain please

Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
NY Giants Tribute

by netsareboss on Jan 12, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

oh please

the team is moving 11 miles.

The Nets were playing in the worst arena in the NBA for 28 years.

“terrible course”?

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 12, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

c'mon NI!

I’m even tired of my diatribes on how the misguided obsession with Brooklyn being, lookin and occurring in a particular fashion has dictated and led to deleterious basketball decisions.

I’m too tired to go there again.

by Jron on Jan 12, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks for elucidating.

now i understand.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 12, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

doesnt bother me

but then I believe in the concept of using it for private-public projects like this, particularly when the property was underutilized and the final product will be a great community benefit.

Let’s remember at the end of the day, there was only one holdout.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 12, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed NI, up until a point.

If folks are compensated (truly and fairly) than the 5th Amendment and the Takings Clause are placated.
However on the other half of the legal formula – the public use issue,
there is a long catalog of cases (including the premiere eminent case) in which things didn’t turn out so beneficial and peachy for the public and the community.

by Jron on Jan 12, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Folks are always compensated by ED

I agree with the concept in theory, but have to judge each project separately as there are so many variables and issues for each case. It has the potential to be badly misused (you’re right, like in Kelo), but urban planners need ED to revitalize city neighborhoods after their sprawl limits have been reached. And I don’t think it was misused w/r/t the Barclays Centre.

This new, post-Kelo allowance of public/private projects has not led to an explosion of developers and local governments looking to squirrel away land—quite the opposite, most state govts passed laws against it—and folks are given “just compensation”: fair market value, sometimes for goodwill also, and sometimes much, much more for those that negotiate or hold out.

by brother_rat on Jan 12, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Still don't buy it

The definition of eminent domain is and has always been defined as taking property for the use of the public, not giving it to a private owner. Of course for Ratner, this is not something new. He did this for MTC and even for the NY Times Tower as well. BTW, he still owes the money that he borrowed in bonds for them, but he is not obligated to return any of it despite that. Real experts on this know that there is no tax revenue from subsidizing developers, and it was always minimal at best. I dare you to say this to the Queens Crapper, because he isn’t fooled by this. Also, if you actually read Field of Schemes by Neil de Mause as well as his blog, he prove countless times that allowing for subsidies for a new arena or stadium is actually NOT a job engine at all, but rather the exact opposite. What’s so public about it when it gets a private owner? I have been through this before with previous cases that were also ruled by the US Supreme Court in the past, but they were overturnned later on. Overall, a ruling don’t always make it right. Let’s not forget that sometimes there can be connections with this like when the judge that agreed to have a new stadium for the Yankees got his own private box for it just for siding with them, and the judge(s) will probably get the same for this as well. Again, I am not against eminent domain itself, just the abuse of it otherwise known as cronyism. On a side note, I know NI’s real name, so it’s no longer a secret, but I will keep it safe if he sees Battle for Brooklyn or at least has an actual interview with DG.

by Tal Barzilai on Jan 12, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

If you read other threads here on Netsdaily you’d see that most everyone on here knows his name — thanks to Oder. That said, your attempted blackmail is deplorable.

by nynjlawyer on Jan 12, 2012 7:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Just to let you know

I still want all of you to see the film reguardless. If you don’t see it, you have no legitimacy to criticize it. I am glad that there is someone who knows what is really going on, and reports the real story rather than tabloids it. When Oder’s book comes out, I will probably be one of the first to get it. He just might say something about me in it. You should probably get it, because he might actually have a chapter on NetsDaily in it as well. Seriously, we need more people like Oder around to give the true story here. He is the like the Julian Assange of the AY, though he does predate him.

by Tal Barzilai on Jan 12, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

the name is known

and if you wish to be obsessed with me, feel free.

I am after all quite successful and worthy of Norm’s obsession.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 12, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Who cares what Oder has to say? I know you do, but most of us couldn’t care less.

by nynjlawyer on Jan 12, 2012 7:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Guess what

Tell Oder your sappy story directly, because I don’t represent him in any way or form. Maybe you don’t care, but many others do. Those that take cheap shots at someone as prolific as Oder is will just fade into obscurity, while he will remain standing tall. Just look at the authors to the book, Michael Moore is a Big, Fat, Stupid, White Man. Where are they right now? Of course, I will probably not be able to answer that because I don’t know myself, but what I can tell you that Michael Moore, a well-known documentarian, is still going strong all these years with new books and documentaries despite all those who attacked him in the past, so the same goes for Oder. I think you are just saying this because you could never find a way to disprove him, and you are probably more afraid of him than he is afraid of you.

by Tal Barzilai on Jan 12, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. That’s what it is. You’ve got it all figured out. (sarcasm, of course)

by nynjlawyer on Jan 12, 2012 8:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

hahahahaha

someone cue the Heat “EAT” gif

by Jron on Jan 12, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

the original press release was in error

and both it and our piece has been corrected. I thought it was 10,400 tonnes, but…

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 12, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Halelujah

Something to look forward to at last.

WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap

by BrooklynNets on Jan 12, 2012 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

roof should be enclosed in a month

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 12, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

life of a nets fan

Mets/Jets/Nets/Lakers OFWGKTA. FREE EARL. twitter @ampatel11

Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.

by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

dailybooth.com/barclayscenter

pics updated everyday

#MarSwag9
buck fitches.

by "NetsNation" on Jan 12, 2012 6:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

This pic was from 5 PM yesterday.


.
Can someone explain the composition of the 2nd layer on the roof?
Is that the way the roof will look when compete – that is no need to paint it?

by jerry25 on Jan 12, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

i think another set of panels goes on top of what youre seeing there.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 12, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Idiots

I wonder how many idiots in Brooklyn still think that they can stop the arena? Where is that jerk Goldstein, who cost Ratner millions? He’s sitting on his millions, it was always about getting the most money for his apartment, not about saving Brooklyn. Brooklyn will profit when the arena opens. It will bring new life to the whole area. I know the corner of Flatbush and Atlantic very well, used to travel to the clock tower building twice a year with my Mom to see the dentist from when I was a little kid, till I went to college.

Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida

by PaulErstein on Jan 12, 2012 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

We can thank Goldstein for Proky being the new owner.

I believe Goldstein spent much of his settlement on a row house in Brooklyn and an extension to the house.

The prices for old row houses in NYC is ridiculous.
Would have made more sense to move away from NYC and have lots of $ left over.

by jerry25 on Jan 12, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Reality check

Just stop with that claim already. Have you forgetten that there are now former supporters that were recently protesting against Ratner who also originally believed that they had his word? When are you going to wake up an realize that he was just using you to push it forward and nothing more? He did a very similar thing when trying to get what he needed to get MTC built. Don’t every bring in the claim that it brings tax revenues when that is clearly false. Neil de Mause wrote a whole book disproving that new sports facilities especially those subsidized by taxpayer dollars give any revenues if any. For the last time, Goldstien was not only never viewed as a sellout by those who knew what was actually going on, he was NOT the reason for any type of redesign, and that was debunked by Oder countless times, but like the anti-Israel crowd, you continue to ride those myths despite how false they are, because somewhere in your twisted mind it is probably true even when it’s not. Try walking in someone else’s shoes, and you will see what they go through, because you probably never do that. Speaking of Oder, here is what he had to say about the topping out ceremony in how little it was attended.

http://atlanticyardsreport.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-no-press-conference-for-topping-out.html

by Tal Barzilai on Jan 14, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

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