Prokhorov: Russia Must Look West
by Net Income on Jan 12, 2012 12:00 PM EST
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PrintShould he get elected, Mikhail Prokhorov would face an interesting policy dilemma unique to him ... how to deal with the targeting of nuclear weapons at a city where you also own significant real estate? Russia still maintains a sizeable nuclear arsenal, some of whose aim points are undoubtedly within New York's city limits.
Not helpful to Brooklyn real estate values.
Prokhorov seems to want a way out of that dilemma. In an op-ed for London's Guardian Wednesday, the Nets owners and Russian presidential candidate proposes that Russia look to the west, become part of the eurozone, "decide once and for all that we are a part of greater Europe, and that we share the values of European democracies".
Russia has, as Prokhorov notes, "for too many years we have been obsessed with the notion that Russia has its own 'special' fate, separate and distinct from everyone else." Getting beyond that could lead to more trust, less nukes.
- PROKHOROV: Russia Doesn't Need A Revolution - Business Insider
- Russia needs to change – but by evolution not revolution - London Guardian
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what a joke…smh
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
This guy is smart.
Too bad he is being used as a tool by Putin
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 12, 2012 12:31 PM EST reply actions
JAY-Z just gets the Penthouse.
The other 2 get the Floor ABOVE the Penthouse.
LOL
Outlaw and Graham in the background
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what a CLOWN
Russia will NEVER become the United States’ female dog.
And Join the EU? Are you joking me? Have you seen what has happened in Greece, Portugal, Ireland and now Spain? GTFO Proky.
The EU resembles a modern Soviet Union FFS!
No wonder he will NEVER be elected in Russia, I AM GLAD HE ISN’T.
Now I can see his “elitist” views on the world.. not good.
I am glad he owns my favorite team but really disappointed in his views.
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
chill with that or you'd get a warning
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
a warning for speaking my mind? do you see the irony here?
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
by Claud on Jan 12, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it's almost like we're in...................russia...lol
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Knowing that the owner possesses nuclear weapons should inspire the players to give 100%, even DWill.
by ispartan on Jan 12, 2012 12:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Wanted: Editorials by Net Income
I think he does a great job with the site.. and the articles are written with a neutral viewpoint, which is ideal for a reporter….
That said, he also has his viewpoint which is written occasionally in the comments section.
A great example, is Net Income, in the last thread, indicated he is not in favor of the Brooklyn superteam stretegy
that should be obvious. This is a lost season. The Nets as an organization is all about Brooklyn, all about getting a superteam on the floor on October 31, 2012. You can agree or disagree with the strategy (I disagree with it), but that IS the strategy, from Prokhorov on down.
They have decided to sacrifice this season, just as they did last season.
Maybe I am naive, but I thinK Net Income wields some influence with the Nets organization. Thus, if he stated his opinion on such a critical topic, it may carry some influence.
by orangeeater on Jan 12, 2012 1:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
perhaps a monthly editorial... make this green if you like it
And Net Income, please don’t editorialize about how we stink as fans :p
We all have influence. Just tweet @bkdefend if someone has a good idea.
It is surprising how little people tell Billy King directly what they think.
Its not like writing to Kim Kardashian. BK reads the few tweets he gets.
Proky can also be tweeted, but not sure if he reads them himself.
Its rare for someone to send Proky a non Russian tweet.
It may be better than way.
He may have cost the Nets a couple of games with his bad body language, early in games.
DWill might have been upset with himself, but his teammates could take it the wrong way.
People also fail to factor in the importance of getting Stevenson and DJames back in the lineup.
With some more defense, last night’s game could have been a win.
BK may be only sacrificing the season up until the March 15 deadline.
Hopefully there will be a resolution in the DH saga by then, and if DH happens to go to LAL, BK will be able to “pivot” and pull off another big trade. Nets would have to be in the playoff race at that time.
It isn’t Nets fault that Brook Lopez went down. Otherwise, everything would be looking fine.
I suspect, that if not for the Lopez injury, BK would have been able to get AK47 to sign for the 1 year money offered to Okur (however, not sure if AK could have been traded as an expiring, as Okur can).
There would be no complaints if Nets had Lopez+AK47.
OK.. I tweeted Deron and BK
To Deron:
@DeronWilliams Mr. Williams.. your attitude on the court is all wrong. Clearly u dont wanna be here. Ask for a trade. better for every1
To King:
Mr. King, Deron is not playing like a superstar and his attitude is an embarrassment. As a Nets fan, I find this unacceptable
Yeah that's going to help
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by eLonepb on Jan 12, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
LOL
rec’d
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
That is the exact opposite of what should be said, if you want to help.
Haven’t you read that DWill and Avery have already discussed the subject, and DWill agreed it wasn’t appropriate for a team Captain and Leader?
DWill has been better since that discussion.
I don't like Deron. DOn't like him on my team.
I don’t like quitters or pouters. I like guys who hustle. I like guys with the fire to be great.. not just rich.
I think what we are seeing with Deron is his true character. Not the character I want with my star player.
I thinK Deron is a jerk and his attitude can in theory rub off on brooks and other young players in the future
I am a Phillies fan. Roy Halladay runs 5 miles every morning at 6 AM. His attitude has inspired other pitchers to emulate him. A player’s work ethic and attitude matters.
when you see your leader pout and give half-effort or play in non-top shape
it resonates to the rest of the team.
Deron doesn’t like losing. that is apparent. This is the worst team he has ever been on.
But, maybe he is depressed?
you're having a conversation with yourself
i might have to report this as spam..
by Nets! on Jan 12, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
smh
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
it's worse
when he’s your PG. the offense runs through him. so if he’s not playing as well as he can, then the offense isn’t running as well as it can.
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
and then
he went and played lackluster and got himself kicked out the very next game
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
At us in Russia it is accepted: While you with us we always will be for you mountain. Deron it is heavy more than ever. And you finish him.
I don't speak English
by RussianNets on Jan 12, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
i don't really want to finish Deron
he has a wife for that…
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 12, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
finish him
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
by Taylor Made on Jan 12, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what is wrong with you?
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Jan 12, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Hard to ignore it when Dwight Howard asks to be traded to your team
You don’t just say “awww, that’s sweet Dwight but we think Nene gives us a shot to be an 8th seed this year, so we’re going to go with him instead.”
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Jan 12, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
This times a million.
If the coaches/management/star PG is oddly okay with JOHAN PETRO being our starting center, and oddly okay with the scrub mercenaries we brought in for this season, DEAL WITH IT. It’s gonna be frustrating to watch, yes, but with what may or may not be going on behind the scenes, this season is clearly sacrificial. All the effort in the world isn’t gonna bring a playoff run for this team.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jan 12, 2012 2:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
dont kid yourself
i wield no influence…none.
the board does however…and that includes comments.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
LOL
we’re going insane
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
We have influence over the Nets?
i feel so much more important now….
Hey Avery, unless Petro is beasting practice, sit his butt down on the bench
Hey BK, good work
Hey Deron, Show some leadership
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by netsareboss on Jan 12, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I respond to that with something you said a few days ago, paraphrased: ’Do you think athletes (sub that for Nets brass) who get paid millions of dollars care what a 17yr old (sub that for 20 something-year-olds) says about them on twitter (sub that with Netsdaily)?
by JimmyLips on Jan 12, 2012 3:16 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Mike, you know what I mean. As a whole this board is bipolar from hour to hour pending the article that is posted. So I would hope management would take a lot of things here with a tub of salt.
by JimmyLips on Jan 12, 2012 3:56 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Fans, especially hardcore fans, are usually bi-polar.
Nets management knows that…and so do many of the players.
Comes with the territory and they must find this website very interesting and entertaining.
"Become part of the eurozone"
Take it from those of us in the eurozone its not so great.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Well, that's a relative statement
From someone who’s lived and worked in Russia and the EU, the Eurozone is a vast improvement in a lot of ways. Russia often has little to no standards, little enforcement of such standards, government meddling, maddening bureaucracy (yes, the EU has this, but at a lesser level), arcane labor and currency restrictions, complicated and duplicative codes and taxes—oh, and rampant corruption. And, at least the Eurozone’s economy isn’t practically linked to global oil prices.
There is a distiction between being part of europe and the eu
And being a part of the eurozone. The euro is failed currency with a very real possibility of not being in existense in the next 12 months and beyond. With also real consquences for memer states that are a part of it as a result.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
by shea23 on Jan 12, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not a distinction when it comes to governance, largely
You argued that life in the Eurozone is not that great, and I merely argued that life for the average person in Russia is far worse. Hell, life in Europe and outside of the EU and the Eurozone altogether is perhaps the best (if you can move to Switzerland). But your quote about becoming part of the Eurozone is from NI, not the editorial—Prokhy did not mention joining the Eurozone at all.
But the Eurozone is subset of the EU, and as such has similar standards with the rest of the EU w/r/t many non-currency, trade, and economic policies. Prokhy’s editorial was yet another call for Russia to complete its 300-year-old flirtation for acceptance into Europe, and as he states that means embracing also EU standards of governance, rule of law, human rights, etc.; none of which, you must agree, differs much for a member state whether a Eurozone member or not. Even for those in the Eurozone, as in the rest of Europe, the standards of labor, taxes, corruption, and currency restrictions are better than the wild west Russia, which as Prokhy notes has an economy that is unhealthily bound to intl hydrocarbon prices.
PROKHOROV
Gee – I feel better already – our fearless leader wants Russia to follow the “values of European democracies”?
If that’s the case – GLUG – GLUG – GLUG. European democracies ARE BURIED IN DEBT. They define the WELFARE STATE. The European democracies (and anyone who acts like them – i.e. – Obama) or (any politician of any political party who can’t tighten the purse strings) need to stop spending money they don’t have – e.g. – Greece. The welfare state is a failed concept in the view of anyone with 3 firing neurons. The problem with Socialism is that eventually – you run out of other people’s money. I don’t think Prokohov is a actual Socialist – he understands the bottom line – and I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt – he’s seems like a good old fashioned Capitalist (Steinbrenner) – simply with a Russian accent.
by L.WINTHORPE on Jan 12, 2012 2:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
the point is
that for Russians, this is STRONG medicine. Russian nationalism runs deeps and is a big reason why they continue to see themselves as special … and put upon. It’s that old tribalism which used to cause European and world wars every 20 years or so. Tribalism is all about victimhood….protect the tribe.
In the Guardian article, Prokhorov talks about how there is a great opportunity now to move away from that, because they are NOT threatened.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Nothing can be further from insanity than a call to aspire for European levels of democratic governance
Particularly for Russian to call for it.
Funny how Prokhy mentioned democracy and rule of law, and everyone here equates that with a welfare state and failing economies. Good governance (with the maximization of human rights) does not always mean economic ruin. Prokhy’s spot on, and the gist of his remarks has been rehashed for generations—although it remains a tough road to hoe to somehow accomplish widespread rule of law reforms in Russia.
damn lol
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
JR Smith's sis?
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Spreeewell
The Future is Not Written For Us, But By Us
by LBJOSH on Jan 12, 2012 3:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
LMAOOOOOO
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
at least she isn't a
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
thinking of a word that starts with a 'b' and ends with a 'h'
and if i said it here, it would get me a warning
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm? Starts with a 'b' and ends with a 'h'
Oh, oh! I got it!
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
What onions on proky!!
Guy is a fearless leader….dwill not so much
The Future is Not Written For Us, But By Us
by LBJOSH on Jan 12, 2012 3:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Petro for Smith
The Future is Not Written For Us, But By Us
by LBJOSH on Jan 12, 2012 3:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
espn trade machine is down....this sucks so much
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
son of a
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Trading Petro on trade machine is like dividing by zero
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jan 12, 2012 4:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
We’re sorry but ESPN cannot process this trade request. Please refrain from using fictional NBA players.
by lezosamis on Jan 12, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
tough break for the nets.
we played them three times without lopez and now the rest of the league get to feast on zaza. hey, at least the hawks are out of the rent-a-Dwight running
by SteViePoPzBK on Jan 12, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
That’s basically the season then, unless he pulls it off in exactly 3 months. Tough break for them.
by JimmyLips on Jan 12, 2012 3:59 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Net Income best get on it
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Jan 12, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Al Horford is out 2-3 months
But we already played the hawks 3 times.
Knowing our luck he will be back just in time to face us for our last game vs the hawks
Assassination...
…is now one step away. Good thing he won’t get elected. Not many who are part of that 140% enjoy basketball or America that much.
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