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Brooks, Shumpert Battle for "Steal"

MarShon Brooks

Over the summer, Adidas had several of its rookies out to Oregon for a welcoming event, which featured skills competitions, some community events and a photo shoot. Marshon Brooks and Iman Shumpert jokingly had one taken of the two of them squared off in boxing poses, fists raised. It may have been prophetic.

The two, along with Norris Cole of the Heat, are competing for the title of "Steal of the Draft". In Drew Packham's latest Rookie Ladder, Shumpert, taken at #17, is ranks third while Brooks, taken at #25, ranks fifth, down despite his double double vs. the Hawks.

Shumpert ranks third in scoring (13.2), fourth in assists (3.6), first in steals (2.2) and first in free throw percentage (90.9%). Brooks ranks second in scoring (14.4), second in field goal percentage (46.2%), fourth in three point shooting (40.7%), and third in free throw shooting (79.3%).

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There seems to be a lot of Homers in here

Marshon is the second scoring option on a team with no elite scorers, and that depends on your definition of scorers, who has problems getting to 90 points except in blowout, Shumpeet is the 3rd or 4th scorer in a team with 2 elite scorers.Also Shumpert had been injured and is a little behind.

Once you take into that and the superior defense of Shumpert and the fact that he has to earn his minutes, while Marshon really have no competition for minute, Marshon might end the year with better stats, but there is no way he is remotely a better player. If he was not playing for the Nets, he probably would not have broken the rotation yet

by a hay on Jan 12, 2012 6:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Shumpert is solid roookie

it aint fair enought to say he’s stats dont match Swags. He does a lot at both ends of the floor way better than James and Stevenson

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

And I'll just say

This is why players love playing in big markets. Shumpert suddenly gets “ROY” possibilities despite a performance that Brooks clearly dominates by stats and PER.

Oh and Kobe’s ally-oop dunk gets #1 play of the day yesterday, despite it being not all that sensational at all.

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by eLonepb on Jan 11, 2012 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

Just curious but how much have you watched Shumpert play?

He is the most consistently good player on the Knicks right now, and he impacts the game on defense as well as offense.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I have watched him, he's been a good rookie so far

I like his defense and his intensity. He certainly fires up the crowd.

He hasn’t outperformed MarShon (yet) though.

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by eLonepb on Jan 11, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I think its close

Brooks looks like the best offensive game of any player in the draft. But Shumpert is starting at PG, and his defense is critical to the Knicks success. It seems like every time he goes to the bench, the other team goes on a run. I think both players have had equally impressive seasons. Hope they develop a great rivalry with each other. That will be really fun to watch.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

That's all true

But the Knicks really do have a bunch of garbage around the Big 3 so they need Shumpert. It’s pretty much the same with Brooks: the team suffers to score (and defend) without Brooks on the floor.

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't think you could go wrong with either player

Both are showing all-star potential, and are ROY candidates. Any Nets fan will tell you Brooks is better, and any Knicks fan will say Shumpert is better. I think the truth is that they are both equally important to their teams success, and its too early to say which player will have the better career.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think either is a legit ROY candidate

Not with the way Rubio is playing.

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by eLonepb on Jan 11, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

He has great vision for a small head though

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Course

Lighter, smaller head > Better movement. This is already sounding like a Nike ad. The new Rubio 360 – better than your head will ever be.

by Brooklyn-Bound on Jan 11, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounding like Don Draper from Mad Men with that one!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 11, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Well put

although statistically Brooks is clearly the more effective player. However, we are talking about miniscule sample sizes. It will be an exciting race, but in the end I think it will come down to Brooks, Irving, and Rubio.

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Clearly more effective now

I do think Shumpert is more of a stat filler across the board than Brooks.

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by eLonepb on Jan 11, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Shumpert will definitely be up there with Brooks

Brooks is putting up slightly better numbers. But Shumperts contribution goes beyond that. He is also in charge of running the offense, and getting both Melo and STAT involved, which is something that other guards have had trouble doing. He plays great defense, and is averaging 2.2 steals per game. He is also being asked to play huge minutes coming off an injury, early in his NBA career. He is a critical part of this team success. Without him, the defense falls apart, and we have nobody to run the offense.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Brooks is putting up slightly better numbers.

Brooks is putting up vastly superior numbers through four more games.

He is also in charge of running the offense, and getting both Melo and STAT involved, which is something that other guards have had trouble doing.

MarShon practically is the Nets offense and has arguably more responsibility. He has also started to pass more to teammates rather than over penetrating and his assist numbers should go up. MarShon also is one of two people on this team that can consistently get to the line, which is the only thing that can keep us in games.

He plays great defense, and is averaging 2.2 steals per game.

Shumpert is a good defender but so is Brooks. I think both players will have significant contributions on the defensive end.

He is also being asked to play huge minutes coming off an injury, early in his NBA career.

Exact same for MarShon.

They may have similar impacts for their teams, but until Shumpert can prove that he is statistically on par with Brooks, it’s just hype to put him on the same level.

Of course this will all change in a week! But for now, Swag is being disrespected.

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

Of course a player who is asked to defer to Melo and STAT is going to have slightly lower offensive numbers. Also, you can’t compare both players defensively. Shumpert was the best defensive player in the entire draft. Anyway, I wouldn’t have a problem with Brooks being raked higher, because he has put up great numbers all year, and is being asked to carry the Nets offensively. But Shumpert is just as good as advertised. He is not being overrated at all.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I never said Shumpert was overrated

I said I think he was a fantastic pick and just what the Knicks needed. But Landry Fields got a ton of hype for somebody who is actually a pretty terrible player. Shumpert will be much better than Fields but I doubt he is on the same tier as Brooks by season’s end.

I don’t say this to be confrontational, I just think that Shump will be more of a versatile impact player long term whereas Brooks has the chance to be a mid level star.

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I brought up Fields just to highlight the hype machine at the Gawden

and by the way, the Knicks rank #24 in Hollinger’s rankings. They’re not very good, even with Shump.

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn't saying you thought he was overrated

But I feel like some of the criticism on this blog is a bit unfair. Obviously its a Nets blog so I can’t really get too upset about that lol. I think its too early to tell where either players ceiling is. I think they will both be major assets to their teams for a long time though. Also, I have no problem with you saying Fields was overhyped. He was definitely a product of D’Antoni’s offense. Also, Hollinger hates the Knicks for whatever reason. They are ranked 14th offensively and defensively, so I’m not sure how they end up 24th overall lol.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Because the Knicks have played by far the leagues easiest schedule

I know they are not terrible like the Nets, but c’mon, the Knicks haven’t done anything yet. And Hollinger’s formula is preset so it’s not biased. Does it reflect reality? No, but it does tend to put things into perspective.

And as for Fields, he had a decent rookie season if you don’t account for the D’antoni bump, and has been terrible this year. He has a PER of 9.74. TO COMPARE, JOHAN PETRO HAS A PER OF 9.93.

And 15+% of the season has already been played.

Enough said.

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by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Fields has been horrible

Not even trying to argue with you there. Last year the Knicks ran a very different offense, which led to a lot of easy scoring for Fields, and his rebounding numbers were inflated because we didn’t have a C. Also, I don’t see how the Knicks are ranked 24th with a top 15 defense and offense. How does that make sense?

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It has a lot to do with strength of schedule last 10 games

Saying you don’t trust Hollinger’s numbers is like denying evolution. You can protest things are different, but it’s actually how things work. It’s smart to take Hollinger’s opinions with a grain of salt, but his stats are very informative.

Knicks have a very low scoring margin during the leagues easiest schedule.

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by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

We also lost Amar'e and Shumpert for awhile

Melo was basically our only scoring threat for about awhile. Even when STAT was healthy, he was playing well for the first few games. It also took some time for Chandler to adjust. I know you guys don’t want to hear about injuries though lol.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

ummmmm ever heard of a guy named Chris Singleton? He is hands down a better defender than Shumpert.

by Ryan243 on Jan 11, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Melo went off on Singleton

Shumpert kept John Wall out of the paint

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really.

RealGM Knicks fans firmly believe that Shumpert is the best rookie.

by DarkXaero on Jan 11, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

It wont last

Shumpert will be an excellent role player for the Knicks. You have to tip your hat to them, they have done excellent jobs drafting. If MarShon keeps up the play then he will get his due respect. Plus, I expect him to drop 30 in a game soon, that should get everyone’s attention.

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

any idea what the high scoring game has been for rookies thus far? Would assume would have been either Marshon, Irving or Cole…….

by Ryan243 on Jan 11, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Didn't Cole score 22?

I think it’s in the low 20’s. With this schedule you can be sure that no rookie is scoring 50 points in a game like Jennings. Brooks is improving fast. If he can string together some 20 point games (and get some assists of his improved passing) he will start getting a lot of love from the media.

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Kyrie is up to 15.6 ppg….having scored 20 last night. His high game was 21 points on the 8th against Portland with 3 other 20 point efforts. Kyrie has played in 9 games at this point and has never played less than 20 minutes a night (averaging nearly 27 minutes per game).

Norris Cole is averaging 10.4 ppg with a high game of 20 points against the Celts….That is his only 20 point effort.

Marshon is averaging 14.4 ppg with a high game of 21 points (done 2x) – which are his only 20 point games. He has 3 games of 17 points and 1 game of 19 points. Like Irving, Marshon has played in 9 games – but in 2 of those 9 games he played for just 8 and 12 minutes respectively – and is averaging 25.3 minutes per night.

Granted Rubio is not a scorer – but he is averaging 10.2 ppg with a high game of 14 points.

Markieff Morris is averaing 8.8 ppg with a high point effort of 16 points.

And for all the Shumpert love – he is averaging 13.2 ppg with a high point game of 18 (has only played in 5 games and has never played less than 22 minutes).

by Ryan243 on Jan 11, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

So from a scoring perspective the 2 guys in the conversation are going to be Kyrie Irving and Marshon Brooks….and I think that will be the race all season (strictly from a ppg perspective).

I think if Brooks didn’t get such little run in the Cleveland game and didn’t have the ankle injury that he would be matched with Irving in ppg, if not scoring at a higher average.

by Ryan243 on Jan 11, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe but either way, Brooks is ranked among the NBA's best in PER

It’s early in the season, so things will likely even out, but Shumper is down in the 100’s, Irving is in the 50’s and Brooks is in the 20’s.

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by eLonepb on Jan 11, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

And MarShon has better defensive numbers

despite all of Shumpert’s steals. Brooks is also a better offensive rebounder (although that might have to do with Amare and Tyson playing for the Knicks).

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

MarShon is also matching up against other teams' best wings

and playing admirable man to man defense without fouling. At some point this season the Nets will get healthy and make a mini run and MarShon will be at the center. Then he will get the pub he deserves.

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Books can if Deron gives him a green light.

Deron has been to focused on scoring himself rather than getting the guys to do better.

by Zartan on Jan 11, 2012 1:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

HOW IN THE H***

Brooks is the one guy who every nite i can count on good shooting and 10+ points and a good effort. Yes Deron is shooting well, Morrow has just found his touch, and everyone else is either hurt or underperforming. except @ Shawne William@

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by NYCBOSSforLIFE on Jan 11, 2012 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

I don't understand

how a double-double moves you down

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by Taylor Made on Jan 11, 2012 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

We do!

That’s all that counts. It’s good to be the underdogs — gaurds against arrogance.

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

smh

You play to win the game!

by stevieboyNETS on Jan 11, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

totally

Dwill. Brooks. Chair. Lopez. Howard.
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by LuNETic on Jan 11, 2012 11:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

totally

Dwill. Brooks. Chair. Lopez. Howard.
2012 Bky Netpocolypse Championship Team

by LuNETic on Jan 11, 2012 11:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Marshon, Shumpert, Irving are defintely the best rooks out there right now.

IMO

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Jan 11, 2012 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed

Those four have already distinguished themselves from the rest of the pack. Markief Morris should be added to that list, but I think he is going to cool down in a major way. Who knows though? He is a Sun after all.

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

yep

my bad

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Jan 11, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Rubio is #1, lock for ROY

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by eLonepb on Jan 11, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

he has changed the direction of that franchise

watching him last night, he brings something they didnt have and could lead to Love staying around.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Jan 11, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

That franchise has changed.

Twolves picks will no longer be valuable for long!

by SunilP on Jan 11, 2012 8:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Rubio is miles ahead

His impact is over entire team. he is making everyone around him better.

Unless he suddenly slows down he is the best.

Love marshon, shumpert is good.

Irvings overall ability makes him rank behind rubio.

by SunilP on Jan 11, 2012 8:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Shumpert is going to have the advantage in Dantoni's system...

That scoring in 7 seconds offense allows for a lot of shots to be take. Everybody that plays for Dantoni get’s inflated numbers…

by aug93 on Jan 11, 2012 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

Shumpert definitely has an easier time scoring playing off Melo and STAT

His defense, energy, and ability to play PG has been where he provides the most value to the Knicks though. His ability to score has really just been a huge bonus for us this year.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

no doubt Shumpert is good player

But like i said before he;s not PG (cant control tempo and pass) and he’s not SG(short- SG even swag will ahve free day shooting on him)

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't agree that he isn't a PG

There is a reason the Knicks made him their starting PG. These are just a couple of the passes he made in the last few games. He is able to make passes like these fairy regularly. There are times when Melo takes the ball from him, but thats more because Melo likes to try and play point-forward.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lQa2i1cL5U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5LXApacvqM&feature=related

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Those are pretty pedestrian plays

both against the worst team in the league that plays no defense.

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

There are better plays, but not very many on youtube

Again, he won’t be the next Nash, CP3, Rondo, or D-Will. But I do think that he can be a true PG. He does do a good job setting up teammates, and there is still a lot of room for improvement. He won’t be a Rubio type guard that was born with amazing court vision. But I do think he can get the job done, and make plays in a structured offense.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Like i said i watched Celtic Laker and Bobcats game's

In all of those game’s he was playing SG, dude aint ready to play PG…period. he cant set up plays he cant control tempo end thats wht you need from PG!!!

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

hw aint ready

it simple as that. no hate i love the kid but he just not ready for NBA. He needs some PG that can help him right now and show him what it is…..but like i said his ragit and he plays D better thatn anyone else on NYK team even Chandler

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The Knicks only moved him to PG a couple games ago

He was playing almost exclusively off the ball before Douglas was benched. If you saw the last couple games, I think you would agree with me.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

he's under sized to play SG

What cant you understand he’s rookie he got ways to go he fold on the draft for the same reason. Like i said boy can play but there’s a lot of ways to go and NYK BUID TO WIN RIGHT NOW. Some other team maybe will love him but NYK needs PG like Nash or Felton to compete

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Take the good with the bad

I’m not saying either one is better than the other, but they both have made some questionable moves on the court when they play.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

NYK BUILD TO WIN A CHIP

Is he Rondo to Bring it up? if he’s a PG? can he play a PG?

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

We're about to find out

He’s starting for them now if I’m not mistaken.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Shumpert is bigger than Brooks

He is over 6’5.5" and weighs 220. Not sure how he is undersized.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah you right

but the way it looked like he’s short SG. Check those games he’s like midget out there

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe he was matched up with a taller player

but draftexpress has him listed at 6’6 with a 6’9.5" wingspan. He is also strong as heck. His bench press of 18 was actually higher than any PG or SG in the draft.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok

He does a more than adequate job at the point for the Knicks and I’m happy for him. I wish him the best. I wouldn’t trade Brooks for him though.

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by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't trade Shumpert for Brooks either

I’m glad that we are both happy with the players that we have. Shumpert fits our needs more, because our perimeter defense is weak, and you guys need Marshon’s scoring as a compliment to D-Will and eventually Lopez.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah you wont trade him because you have Melo....????

But the point is can Shumpert set up plays? can he control tempo?

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Its too early to say with 100% certainty

But as someone who has watched every minute of every Knicks game this season I honestly believe he can.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

we'll see win chip

yo build to win one , every year you lose you lose STAT and Chandler with their Q? knee’s(health)

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Also keep in mind that

with Lopez injured and our lack of scoring Lil’ Mamba is putting up his numbers despite double teams and being the focus of our opponents’ defensive effort. He’s gonna drop 50 on somebody though when the Nets develop some sense of chemistry.

by Doesthishurt on Jan 11, 2012 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

Rubio is the best rookie out there, and he is making his team better which is huge.

Shump is a very good player, reminds me of a young Baron Davis. Not sure if he is a product of their system or not but he is aggressive, good ball handling, and can finish at the rim.

by Benl1 on Jan 11, 2012 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

pistol pete?

Dwill. Brooks. Chair. Lopez. Howard.
2012 Bky Netpocolypse Championship Team

by LuNETic on Jan 11, 2012 11:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

pistol pete?

Dwill. Brooks. Chair. Lopez. Howard.
2012 Bky Netpocolypse Championship Team

by LuNETic on Jan 11, 2012 11:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not Steve Nash

Nash is one of the greatest shooters to ever play in the league.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jan 11, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

but I have more respect for Brooks than I do any of those two. This dude is fearless and has a winning attitude that can be contagious. He is amazing on offense, I think eventually he is going to put it together.

by Benl1 on Jan 11, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

pretty neat that our rook is averaging over 14ppg.

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Jan 11, 2012 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

should be 20p

no doubt he can do it on this team

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed – I think Brooks will be a much better scorer when Brook Lopez returns and/or Deron Williams shot starts falling….

He is putting up 14 ppg in his first 10 games while facing double teams for the past 5-6 games.

by Ryan243 on Jan 11, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

The whole team will be better when Lopez comes back

Hell they will be better when Memo comes back. We just need to start somebody other than Petro at this point!

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm yet to see if he can do it in NBA

i know he can out 60 on BUMS but lets see if he can score 30+ every game and dominate the game just like B LO did

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

NY Media

I see they like MarSwag alot
Look at the stats, you bunch of posers!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 11, 2012 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

This rookie class wasn't as weak as the "EXPERTS" predicted...

This class looks better than the previous class (Wall, Favors, etc…)

by aug93 on Jan 11, 2012 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

Wall > Irving

I’m not sure I agree. Who knows? Wall may not be worth all the hype. Irving is clearly outplaying Wall this year and Cleveland is a better team.

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

agreed…….losing that lottery might have been a huge blessing for us in the long run.

by Ryan243 on Jan 11, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I said that immediately after we lost the lottery

and came in 3rd. Was a little peeved about missing out on Wall but was glad that we would take Favors over Turner. I knew that a big would be easiest to trade.

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by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually it kind of is

If the 17th and 25th picks are among the Top 5 rookies.

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by eLonepb on Jan 11, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

that is more of an indictment on the front offices and scouting departments in the NBA than on the players themselves.

by Ryan243 on Jan 11, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Disagree

Already the late picks are showing up and it’s still very early. Still have plenty of time for the Derrick Williams and Kanters to break out. Favors never really broke out on the Nets only showed flashes

by nwkiddnj on Jan 11, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

More good news from Ric Bucher about Howard. He may be more optimistic than the average Nets fan.

This morning Bucher replied to my tweet about a possible Howard trade about sending Cousins + G. Wallace + Morrow + Okur to ORL for DH + Turk. (Lopez would go to SAC).

Nets, Mavs, Lakers. Talking about anybody else getting DH is pointless.
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Last night I posted 4 Email tweets from Bucher in which he said that Bynum by himself was too risky and that ORL would want multiple pieces. He also said that NJ offer is attractive and that Dallas wouldn’t have more than $17 million by summer (and Broussard stated that Dallas has nothing to trade for DH).

by jerry25 on Jan 11, 2012 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

Bucher knows very little Jerry.

Everything he reports is based on his opinion and other people’s reports.

Bucher is the worst.

by Clayton Balch on Jan 11, 2012 11:33 AM EST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

Disagree

He is the only person at ESPN with a big voice, who also is skillful with CBA/Salary.

He isn’t “buddies” with the superstars like Brouttard, but he always factors in what is practical from a GM point of view.

In fact it was Bucher who first stated that list was Lakers, Dallas, Nets. No one had mentioned Dallas before Bucher!!
Coincidence?

And it was Bucher who said that Howard SHOULD put Nets #1, even though they weren’t at the time.
Perhaps Bucher deserves more credit than ANYONE for getting DH to make Nets #1 choice? Howard DOES watch Sports Center!

by jerry25 on Jan 11, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Bucher continuously reports 'opinion'.

i have never seen him get anything right. ever.

by Clayton Balch on Jan 11, 2012 11:46 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Bucher said Nets fell to bottom of the list

Behind even the Lakers.

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by eLonepb on Jan 11, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, he did

he also had the single worst piece of reporting during the lockout…that the owners wanted ALL players eligible for the D-League and salaries of $75,000 while down on the farm.

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by Net Income on Jan 11, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

right

Lakers will trade both Gasol and Bynum for D12?

But Buss , Kobe and said otherwise

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Bucher is the worst.

Can’t stand the guy.

by Clayton Balch on Jan 11, 2012 12:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Do you like Broutard better?

Broutard tries to take credit for every story at the last moment.
Bucher was the only major one, pushing for LeBron to stay in Cleveland, which wasn’t a popular opinion for an ESPN analyst at the time.
The guy has principle.

Broutard was in favor of Howard going to Lakers – Almost a certainty.
Now Broutard is trying to get on board the Nets bandwagon, that Bucher started.

by jerry25 on Jan 11, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

At that time Dwight might have been "captured" by Hollywood.

But even when Bucher was saying that, he was advocating for Howard to put Nets as #1 destination.

Maybe Howard finally listened to Bucher about the advantages of being the franchise player in Brooklyn, vs. just another LA superstar, with pressure to win a championship.

Bucher no longer says LA is his first choice.

by jerry25 on Jan 11, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't wait for the rookie/sophmore game

Lil Mamba should clearly start at SG. But who starts at PG? Kyrie? Rubio? or Shumpert? LOL!!!

by Doesthishurt on Jan 11, 2012 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

Havent you heard?

Shumpert will be playing in the All Star game.

by Clayton Balch on Jan 11, 2012 11:35 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I don't understand how Brooks was dropped in the rankings

He has shown the most consistency (other than top 2), should be #3 behind Irving and Rubio

by jumpman on Jan 11, 2012 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

Look

Any time you see a guy drop a double double on 50% shooting from both inside and beyond the arc, you make sure you drop him in all rankings.

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by eLonepb on Jan 11, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i think the answer is that ratings are arbitrary and subjective and for fun and discussion only

In general, a good PG is more important than a good SG. (Kobe, Wade,and Jordan are better than good so dont fit this)

by orangeeater on Jan 11, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Jodran, wade, kobe are world-class great so are exceptions

A good PG has more impact on a game than a good SG..

that is the best I can come up with why he ranked them the way he did…

I’m not saying I agree with his rankings..

by orangeeater on Jan 11, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Flawed.

History shows us that point guards do not have more impact on a team winning. They may have more of an impact on the game, but not on winning; which is, after all, the only thing we care about.

by Dopeness on Jan 11, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I am trying to discern why the NBA guy ranked them the way he did.

I am not talking about winning or my analysis of Shumpert vs. Brooks

by orangeeater on Jan 11, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I know. I find that discussion to be boring.

So … I was branching into a different one. Nevermind.

by Dopeness on Jan 11, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually emailed the writer at NBA.com – I wonder if he will write me back…..if he does, I will post both emails on this site.

by Ryan243 on Jan 11, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

to get people talking, duh

and it’s working

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by calling all toasters on Jan 11, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It is strange to hear such words from the young guy. He strongly worries about the knees. It isn't good for him.

Center Andrew Bynum has told that yet doesn’t know, whether can play on the Olympic Games in London if it is included in the demand.

“I while didn’t think of it. Certainly, to play on the Olympic Games is a great honor, but I think about health and a condition of the knees. It seems to me that the long season now isn’t necessary to me. I yet don’t want from what to refuse, but guarantee too I can nothing”

I don't speak English

by RussianNets on Jan 11, 2012 11:27 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

he's in LALA lend

what you expect, he aint Kobe. That dude care about shorty’s playboy house i would 2, 7 foot 5 inch long babyb i’m here that’s whats on his mind

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Cool Rookie Scoring Stats

The highest scoring average for a season by a rookie was 37.6 ppg by Wilt Chamberlain…..since 1980 the highest scoring average by a rookie was MJ with 28.2 ppg. David Robinson averaged 24.3 ppg his rookie season, Iverson 23.5 ppg and Shaq 23.4 ppg.

Stripping away the silly Wilt the Stilt stats, and taking out the big men (Robinson and Shaq) the top of the food chain for rookie scoring guards is MJ (28.2 ppg) and Iverson (23.5ppg).

As a rookie, MJ averaged 38.3 minutes per game and his highest scoring output in a game was 49 points.

As a rookie, Iverson averaged 40.1 minutes per game and his highest scoring output in a game was 50. He had 47 games scoring 20 points or more (out of 76 games total).

And for all you Marshon-Kobe comparison fanatics – Kobe averaged 7.6 points in 15.5 minutes his rookie season, 15.4 points in 26 minutes his sophmore season and 19.9 points in 37.9 minutes in his third season. And these stats were with Shaq commanding the paint and drawing the presence of the defense (but again he came straight out of high school).

In Kobe’s rookie year – his highest scoring game was 24 points and he had 4 20 point games on the season.

by Ryan243 on Jan 11, 2012 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

And for those of you who are going to want to include DWade in the discussion of rookie SG scoring performance (and like Kobe, he had Shaq anchoring the middle and the defense’s attention)….he averaged 16.2 ppg on 34.9 minutes per game.

DWade had 19 games of 20 points or more in 61 games with a high game of 33 points (midway thru season).

So we could be on the verge of witnessing a very special scoring SG for the Nets.

by Ryan243 on Jan 11, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but

Go YouTube Dwyane Wade rookie highlights. Stats aren’t everything, that kid was a lightning bolt.

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by eLonepb on Jan 11, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Dude we are talking about 4 of the greatest shooting guards of our generation (MJ, Kobe, Wade, Iverson)….I’m just using stats to paint a comparison of Brooks – and I am pretty confident saying that his numbers thus far should inspire a high level of optimism for Nets fans (and Deron Williams).

by Ryan243 on Jan 11, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

This is soo dumb

Shumpert had 2 good games against the same terrible Charlotte team. For people to say he is ROY material is so biased and pro Knick, it makes me sick.

Further, the knicks have has such an easy schedule so far, while ours has been kinda brutal.

Marshon did it against:

Orlando
Boston
Indiana
Atlanta

And 2 of those games, he wasn’t 100%.

by tategeorge on Jan 11, 2012 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

lol Shumpert hasn't had a bad game yet...

He hasn’t scored less than 10 points once all season. 10 points, 7 assists, and 5 steals against Washington isn’t a good game? You are only looking at his scoring numbers, and ignoring every other stat.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Against the Wiz?

C’Mon Son!! I think he’s a good player. But he’s gotta show that against Miami, Atlanta, Boston, etc. Putting up good numbers against the Wiz and the BobbleCats ain’t saying much.

by Doesthishurt on Jan 11, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

lol its not his fault the Knicks haven't played many good teams yet

He was injured against the Lakers, and all the other teams we have played so far have been mediocre

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but you get my point.

I’ve got no probs with Shump. I’m just disgusted with dumb articles pooping on my Nets. Seriously, what’s with his statement about the Nets being horrible? And why didn’t he lend this disclaimer to Kyrie Irving and the Cavs? It’s not like they’ll be competing for a playoff spot.

by Doesthishurt on Jan 11, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't blame you

Although I don’t think Shumpert was ranked too high, there is no reason for Brooks to drop in the rankings. It isn’t fair to drop him considering how well he has been playing.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Guys are just hating on Shump

I love the kid & don’t have a problem with where he is. My problem is with how low MarShon is.

by eopanther8 on Jan 11, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah I understand why you guys are upset

Marshon has been having a great season, and after a couple good games in a row Shumpert is ahead of him on the rookie rankings. I’m just defending Shumpert though. I think Brooks is a great player, and I wouldn’t be upset at all if he had been ranked higher. But its unfair to try and minimize Shumperts accomplishments this year. He has been great, and so has Brooks.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

No, you're looking at per game stats

and not the efficiency stats of both players. Who’s the better overall rebounder? Brooks. The better shooter? Brooks. The better passer? Shumpert, but he turns the ball over a bunch. Who has more steals? Shumpert, but that doesn’t make him the better defender. Who has the higher PER (and especially usage rate)? Brooks.

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't buy into the Hollinger statistics

Never have, and never will. Shumpert is just as good a rebounder. He is also doing it at the PG position. Brooks is a better scorer, and has been more efficient. I’m not going to argue with that. Defensively, you can’t compare the two. Shumpert has the potential to develop into a DPOY candidate. Brooks simply hasn’t been a liability like everybody expected.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't seen that from Shumpert

but I will look for it. Brooks has been this team’s best perimeter defender by a mile, period. I think you are letting reputations cloud what is happening on the floor.

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by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t buy into the Hollinger statistics

Unless they help me prove a point about the Knicks…

by Anthony Perez on Jan 11, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The rankings are really a discussion piece and nothing more.. they are stupid

Markief Morris is ahead of Brooks and his blurb mentions

Before Tuesday’s clunker (two points on 0-for-4 shooting with four steals), Morris had scored in double-digits in four of his last five games

If we are going to nitpick a ranking.. how about Morris over Brooks? Brooks avergaes 4 boards a game as a rookie SG!

by orangeeater on Jan 11, 2012 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

MarShon gotta be #1 funniest rookie...
Marshon2Marshon S. Brooks@
@Teal_2_FLY I’m in these mountains bro, lol I’m way outta my habitat bro
10 minutes ago

by M I K E on Jan 11, 2012 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

who does these rookie rankings?

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i love Swag but he aint B LO

B LO was dominating the game from the get go Swag is a role player that can score. we dum happy with him just because he can score easy on BUMS but i have to see him play like at least B LO

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

uh no

In Lopez’s first six games as a rookie, Lopez scored 31 points. IN his seventh game, his first start, he scored 25.

In the next seven games, he averaged 15.7

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by Net Income on Jan 11, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

we know lopez can put it up. i think people undervalue him because of his defense. solid player though

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

man...i know BLo's defense isn't great...

…but outside of his games against Dwight…he’s held his own defensively against other young centers. Al Horford is an example of one dood that has tough games against Lopez. And we all know how he outperforms Bynum. So to me, if he can stop other team’s big men on most nights, as well as block shots….I’ll take it.

by Versifiervt on Jan 11, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

We need a some one who can put 30 every game

D WILL cant do it, Swag yet to do it even though he was broght here for that, and rest of our squad is TRASH So question is can we get a player that can put 30 on any team. Can we get one player that can Score not rookie

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

We have one of those but he is injured at the moment.

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by NDTony on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

If I remember correctly...

Sasha V. can score 30 anytime he wants

by LBJOSH on Jan 11, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

*golf clap*

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by calling all toasters on Jan 11, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i like shumpert but he doesn’t have to carry his team like Swag does

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

Thats true

Although he is being asked to run D’Antoni’s offense, to guard the best offensive player, and to score while not taking away shots from STAT and Melo. Brooks has a ton of pressure on him, but so does Shump. Not trying to take anything away from Brooks though. He is a great young player, and nobody could have expected this kind of impact.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you serious !!!

Look at all players in D’Antoni system; they all suck once they leave.

Shumpert is a good player, no doubt, but he’s trigger happy as well.

I like his D, but he’s not even close to ROY. Elite SG will eat him, so do the PG.

Good piece off the bench though, but now way a starter ….

by d2d on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Gallo is playing great basketball

Chandler probably would be as well. There are certain players that are products of his system. But he gets entirely too much credit for the success we have offensivey.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Gallo and Chandler played for the same type system, that's why!

Offensively they all flourish in his system, because they spend no energy on D, and have 7 sec or less to put it up. That is why you saw Shumpert taking like 23 shots that day he got hurt.

It’s the system that plays a big role (as far as non-stars).

by d2d on Jan 11, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Denver has a completely different system than NY

Karl runs a much more structured offense, and both of those players have still been good. Felton is also having a great season with Portland. D’Antoni gets too much credit for the success of his players.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I think right now Shumpert is more of a

complete player than Brooks and he looks very confident. He is also aided by playing with big guns.

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by NDTony on Jan 11, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

i can agree somewhat with that. but in the long run i think brooks will be the better player

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Tony

I love your signature.

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by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm the only member of that club but now more people

would join seeing the value of the guy we took for granted. :)

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by NDTony on Jan 11, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Not anymore

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Welcome

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by NDTony on Jan 11, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong

I want Howard. But while we have Brook I’m delighted he’s here.

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by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

OT I got a couple of questions

What was the use of free agency for the Nets if Dwill and BK determined there was no talent that would put them closer to being a contender? Why didn’t the Nets just tell agents we are giving out 1 year deals and you might be traded to Orlando. All the hoopla was for nothing. If the Nets lose Dwill and Dwight I will forever hate Dwill AJ and BK. I understand the plan but if it fails who is to blame?

by DJ HeavyDuty on Jan 11, 2012 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

to be honest i think that they’re confident in getting Dwight, they most know something. they wouldn’t risk it all if they didn’t know something

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

They have talked with Dan Fegan

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by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

plus maybe LA and Dallas was added to the mix just to drive up the price for the Nets. maybe probably not

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

They were trying to trade for Dwight, if you recall

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by eLonepb on Jan 11, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The funny thing about this article is

1)

Brooks slips a spot this week, but continues to put up big scoring numbers for a terrible Nets team.

Last time I checked Knicks suck too.

2)

If he can keep up his shooting percentages (46.2 FG, 40.7 3PT), he’ll stick around the top of The Ladder
SMH!!!! Already thinking negatively.

but

If he qualified, Shumpert would be third in scoring (13.2), fourth in assists (3.6), second in steals (2.2) and first in free throw percentage (90.9).

This Guy has NO CREDIBILITY AT ALL.

What a tool. SMFH!!!!!!!!

by SIC One on Jan 11, 2012 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

Knicks have won 3 straight

we are sputtering and puttering along

perception is everything.

by MrDollarBills on Jan 11, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah even though our schedule has been tough

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

hey

the Nets need to man up and fight. We have injuries but D-Will has not played great and imo that has cost this team a lot in the early going.

by MrDollarBills on Jan 11, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

come on we’re missing a legit 20 pt scorer in lopez i’m pretty sure that has something to do with it too

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

it does

but there’s really no excuse for some of the horrific play we’ve seen from certain people

by MrDollarBills on Jan 11, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

you have to admit though that they’ve been playing better those last few games

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

???

The Nets are terrible. The Knicks are not.

He has to keep up those percentages because he has a reputation as a chucker.

by Dopeness on Jan 11, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

who MarShon?

so far, he hasn’t played like a chucker.

by MrDollarBills on Jan 11, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly he’s been a good facilitator too

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

He hasn't.

But … that’s his rep. That’s part of why he fell to the Nets.

by Dopeness on Jan 11, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

and now you see why

playing for the Nets is damn near poison to these players careers. How do you get dropped after putting up a 19 and 10 performance?

I will not argue about Shumphert, the kid can play, but its funny how being a Net just takes a dump all over everything that this kid MarShon has done so far.

by MrDollarBills on Jan 11, 2012 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

it’s BS. plus brooks been putting up numbers against fierce competition this season

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

He was not

Boston picked Brooks for us. It was prearranged before the 25th pick.

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by NDTony on Jan 11, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

read my post

doubled..double teamed! ..smh

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by BrooklynNets12 on Jan 11, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry

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by NDTony on Jan 11, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah Bro

This guy clearly has some Garden affiliation.

“Garden Party”

SMH!!!!

If he qualified, Shumpert would be third in scoring (13.2), fourth in assists (3.6), second in steals (2.2) and first in free throw percentage (90.9).

He doesnt qualify right now. Why put him in this list.

Another Knicks facilitator.

by SIC One on Jan 11, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Swaggo was a known quantity

Dwill. Brooks. Chair. Lopez. Howard.
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by LuNETic on Jan 11, 2012 12:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

He’s not a steal, his game was known. His combine #s were known. His 1-on-1 game was well known. I think you could say he was overlooked, underappriciated or maybe misunderstood. I don’t get how he’s a “steal” just because he was drafted low. W/e

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by LuNETic on Jan 11, 2012 12:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He’s not a steal, his game was known. His combine #s were known. His 1-on-1 game was well known. I think you could say he was overlooked, underappriciated or maybe misunderstood. I don’t get how he’s a “steal” just because he was drafted low. W/e

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by LuNETic on Jan 11, 2012 12:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Right now Brooks far and away is my favorite Net

love his game attitude and competitive spirit

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by BrooklynNets12 on Jan 11, 2012 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

maybe you should become a scout

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting.

I was actually impressed by some of your write-ups on some of this year (and next year’s) rookies. Not bad at all.

by Dopeness on Jan 11, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you Dopeness

When we talk about “steal of the draft” consideration you have to take into acount where the were drafted.

Shumpert was pick #17

Brooks was pick #25

Brooks is by far the better value

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 11, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...

But wouldn’t you agree that Shumpert is the better player? From watching them both (in-person), I’d say so.

Obviously, that is yet to be determined. That’s just my early read on it.

by Dopeness on Jan 11, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

nah eff shumpert. SWAG all day baby

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldnt say Shumpert or Brooks is better, they just fit different roles

Shumpert excels in a D’Antoni system, is a good on ball defender and great at playing passing lanes. He will never be the focal point of an offense.

Brooks has 20 ppg scoring ability. He plays well on defense but he doesnt have Shumperts Lockdown defender potential. I would rather have Brooks because I think he is more valueable but Shumpert will be in the NBA for a long, long time

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 11, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

There both similar players

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Not realy

Shumpert’s game is all about athleticism. He is very quick with the ball. He likes to use his size and strength to get to spots on the floor

Brooks play more of a counter punchers type of basketball. He likes to hold the ball and wait for the defender to make a mistake. He is more of a finesse player

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 11, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Your also missing one point

Marshon is option #2 or possibly #1 on the offensive end the way this season is playing out. His usage% is higher than Iman THUS FAR. And the way you just described Marshon is the exact way Melo plays, which isn’t a bad thing.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Im Brooks biggest fan

I like the Melo comparison. I hope he gets to that level

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 11, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a great pick, actually a rare good pick for the Nets

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

dude don’t use shawne williams name in vain lol

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

does look like him in training day lol

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I do like Shawne Williams

He hasnt been shooting well but he does alot of other things.
-He is a surprisingly good perimeter defender for his size. We got back into the gamee vs Atlanta when he came in and D’ed up Josh Smith
- He plays good team defense. You rarely see him out of position. He is our best pick and roll defender
- He has a high basketball IQ. He cuts to the basket as soon as his man leaves to double and he floats into the corner when the ball is reversed and he becomes a weakside shooter.

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I will give you the 'cut to the basket' properly

But I have seen him out of position on D many times
I have seen him out of position rebounding
He either doesn’t or can’t jump for a rebound\
and we hired him mostly for his shooting – how’s that been working out?

by Jron on Jan 11, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

His shooting is coming around

Every player goes through a 5-8 game stretch where their shot fails them. His shooting mechanics look great still.

He is light in the backside so he is never going to be a good rebounder. It’s not that he is out of position on rebounds, it’s a stronger player rooting him out.

I think he is our best FA signing. His shot will fall.

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 11, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

just sayin
PLEEEEEEEEEEASE

MOVE UP TO SNAG MARSHON BROOKS!!!!!!
This guy will be a scorer for years!!!!!!!!!
He seems to be the type of player who will average 18 for his career and shoot at a high percentage

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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Shumpert reminds me of a Ron Artest type

I don’t know who Brooks is. I want to compare him with a certain all-timers, but it’s WAY too early.

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he's a rich man's kobe bryant

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

kobe drops 81 on Toronto

MarShon is banned from playing them…

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he could be a Stevenson type of player

can create his own shot but lacks the true offensive talent and shot selection, has great athleticism to be a great defender.

by Andres B on Jan 11, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Its a small sample size but

Iman does average more assist and steals than Marshon, and his usage% is slightly lower than Marshons as well.

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:31 PM EST reply actions  

yeah but it’s easy to get assist when you’re passing it to melo or stat

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

but brooks is passing to petro...

swag clearly has the advantage

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

forgot about petro aka France’s missing link lol

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

and She Willz

another great big man

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently

Dwight or Bust
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One of the BEST game a duo ever had
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

you forgot to say " sith "

When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?

by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 11, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Atheist Muslim

I’m in tears right now Lmaoo

by nwkiddnj on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s just redundant and i know i’m going to get a Captain Obvious for this post lol

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

.....

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

thats not redundant

Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
NY Giants Tribute

by netsareboss on Jan 11, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

who's the bigger fail here

romney or outlaw

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow. If the insipidness and stupidty of the Romney Campaign

Wasn’t yet quite evident…
I give you
‘the crab-walking’ endorsement of Travis Outlaw.
Is this real?
Did he really call him a “star?”
’bout as classic as it gets.

by Jron on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

lol i went on twitter right after and figured it was a joke lol

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait.....What's a dictionary?

Dwight or Bust
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

it's like lion king but less cool

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Does it look like Rafiki?

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

More like

When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?

by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 11, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

LMFAO

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s the way i look when i’m watching the nets play sometimes. delirious lol

by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

YoungMoney24 Baby picture?

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

crap...now everyone knows

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL All jokes aside

Lion King was my favorite movie when I was like 5. Those bastards killed Mufasa :-(

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah man Lion King was awesome

greatest childhood movie(s) ever.

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Same.

Mufasa has a voice that is only second to Darth Vader.

When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?

by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 11, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly like it

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they became extinct around 1998

When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?

by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 11, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

So can I find it in a museum?

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

what's a museum?

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

You can find one in Lady Gagas wardrobe

When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?

by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 11, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubt

when life gives you lemons, you make lemonade, when life give HER lemons, she makes a dress.

Dwight or Bust
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One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

No, but dressing up captions, tweets and quotes

and playing them off as truth is under the ND dictionary for:

“BANNED”

by Jron on Jan 11, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait

Huh?

What?

NBA Star Travis Outlaw?

Supports that clueless…?

Figures.

WE WANT LOPEZ! clap clap clap clap clap

by BrooklynNets on Jan 11, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

fake

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Jan 11, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I love how in non-sports media, local media

Every NBA player is considered a star.

I’ve seen so many stories where some 12th man will appear at some local event and the news will say “NBA Star…”

by Anthony Perez on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Make's perfect sense...

Romney is a Mormon and Outlaw is a Moron…

by M I K E on Jan 11, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I think something else that plays a role in this is the way MarShon looks while he's doing what he does

Shumpert looks alot faster, more exciting when he has the ball. MarShon is so long it seems like he’s playing in slow motion but I still like MarShon better . MarShon is easily the better scorer and rebounder. Shump is a better defender and passer. I would pick MarShon over Shumpert because i think he can become as good at everything Shumpert specializes in and be a dominant scorer. One thing that doesn’t work in Brooks favor is how bad the players are on our team finishing after the catch.

by nwkiddnj on Jan 11, 2012 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

PLEEEEEEEEEEASE

MOVE UP TO SNAG MARSHON BROOKS!!!!!!
This guy will be a scorer for years!!!!!!!!!
He seems to be the type of player who will average 18 for his career and shoot at a high percentage

Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2

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Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2

by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 11, 2012 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

that post had..............................SWAG

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

where avery played him 10 minutes?

in a blowout against the freakin cavs where we struggled to get a stop and a bucket

ugh

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

You were definitively making a bold predication along with the rest of us

judging by his college numbers lol

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I was here, but I wasn't commenting a lot back then

but I was for Brooks way before the draft just because of his pre-draft numbers. But he was to be taken in the 15-20 range for a while, but he continued to fall for god knows what reason. You honestly don’t know how pissed I was when the Celtics took him 1 pick ahead of us, and then a few minutes later I went from pissed to joyful lol.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

can believe he dropped past 10 though

just watching his college vids blows my mind

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

can't*

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

seriously....how is that possible

i think what happens is nba gms dont want to miss out on potential….they see potential in some of these young freakishly athletic players from college, or they dont wanna miss out on the next dirk from europe….that they think….guy was in college 4 years, if he really had it he woulda came out as a sophomore……regardless, to all nba gms, thank you for being idiots!!!

Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2

by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 11, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah seemed to work out for us

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He must have a flaws somewhere

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup . Props. to you and Dwillz

Alyhough I called for Marshon during the 40+ point drop on GU and campaigned vigorously from that game forward.
I did NOT however think Shumpert would be this good of a pro this quickly… Props.

by Jron on Jan 11, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

well put 30 + every game

If we all here talking about Swag is special let him put 30 points every game i’m yet to see it

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Shorter Packham:

Brooks may be better than Shumpert in PER and WS, and have done it against much tougher teams, and not missed any games, but Knick fans love Schumpert! QED.

"Good pitching will always stop good hitting and vice-versa." -- Casey Stengel

by calling all toasters on Jan 11, 2012 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

Brooks takes to much time to make his move

He waste 5-7 seconds of the shot clock setting his man up. He needs to be quicker with the ball.

He also cheats to much on Defense whether it be on double teams or crashing the boards.

These are all things the coach can get him better at though.

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 11, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

it needs improvement

but he does crash the boards and gets put backs…also knows how to get spacing and oull up for opens shots

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

i gotta feeling it will be a bad one

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I got a feeling

that tonight’s gonna be……

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

a good good night?

is that u fergie?

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly don't know who the hell sings it

but its a catchy song.

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

black eyed pease

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Taste pretty good

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there a application to fill out if one wants to become a Knicks fan?

YoungMoney24 wanted to know for future reference.

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

i'd rather cut my balls of...thanks

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah just by a STAT jersey and say "the Knicks are back" alot

Him and Melo are the only players that a lot of our “fans” actually know. I am hoping that we lose some of the bandwagon fans once you guys move to Brooklyn lol.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, its important to boo a lot

Even if you don’t know who you are booing, or why you doing it.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

chant stupid things like

“wen want humphries”

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

for another 16 seasons

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

and another 5 championships

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

you do realize

i am nets fan first

than lakers?

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

lol ok

how many more teams you got?

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

well,

I like the nets, lakers, boston, knicks, suns, trail blazers, mavs and the magic..

oh almost forgot i enjoy the bulls, heat, armor, and warriors.

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

You named mostly the good teams

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

i should of put it in the sarcastic font

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably lol

even though I’m no fan of it

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

people gonna think im serious lol

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

well you do like a lot of bad teams judging from your signature.

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

every team except for LA

have been crappy for far too long

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i was joking man

it’s nets in the east…Lakers in the west

everyone else can moiso off

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

joke expanding on

kobe having another 16 seasons and 5 championships left…

obviously not

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

He won't be able to play at that super high level in a 7 game series

Still amazed they got swept last year, and Bynum thought it was MMA instead of the NBA

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL That's was freaking funny though

never seen a love and hate fest like that before

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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

lol yeah i didn't get that one at all lol

I guess we dislike the Kardashians, almost as much as we dislike Justin Bieber

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQYaNwVz4Wo

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

i think justin bieber is awesome

i know i will get destroyed for this but idc

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

pause

The Future is Not Written For Us, But By Us

by LBJOSH on Jan 11, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

The next Artist Lil Wayne might sign lol

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

haters gonna hate smh

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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.

by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Its going to be a great rivalry

who’s the softer Canadian? Drake or Beiber XD

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

lmao

it’s drake just ask common lol

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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.

by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

He did smash him

waiting for Drizzy to come back at him now

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

drake's gonna go in man

and that’s just something they know

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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.

by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

You better hope so....

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

drake is way outta his league beefin but w/e

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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.

by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and one more

Any time a player is rumored to be getting traded or that he wants to be a free agent, you must respond with:

“He’s definitely going to be a Knick.”

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Jan 11, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

welcome to duh garden

The Future is Not Written For Us, But By Us

by LBJOSH on Jan 11, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

lol I hate that

Annoyed the hell out of me when people did it with LeBron, and when people did it with CP3. The only player I felt really wanted to be a Knick was Melo.

by Dylan87 on Jan 11, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

yo will

i know some peaple (10) NYK fans that live in BK and they will love D12 more than Melo they all said it

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

Every year you have to say “this is our year!” and start linking people to the Knicks beat writers who question whether this team will beat the Miami Heat in 6 or 7.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Jan 11, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

There is one

But you need to bone up on this material before you take it.

by Anthony Perez on Jan 11, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

ask Killa

When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?

by AmbassadorAmeer on Jan 11, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

what happened to him?

im guessing he got banned but for what?

ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE

by Keysta101 on Jan 11, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Read the KIDS Diary!!!

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/netsblog/rookie_diary_nets_marshon_on_not_BcfsZSe4NnDH5xPTX1QytM

If you read how smart this kid is and how confident he is already you cant help but think he is going to be a star.

“My thing has been into the paint. At least before my ankle injury [in Boston last week], I was getting in the paint a lot, and that’s big for me. I thought I’d have to work on my strength a little bit more, which I still do, to get in there, but I’ve pretty much been in the paint when I’ve wanted to be, and that’s surprised me a little bit.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/netsblog/rookie_diary_nets_marshon_on_not_BcfsZSe4NnDH5xPTX1QytM#ixzz1jAw4Ju3y

by power_njerz on Jan 11, 2012 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

Ya he was even in the paint against the Magic.

He knows how to avoid getting blocked, i loved that move he put on J-Smooth againts the Hawks last game, even if he missed the shot initially.

by Nick Tortoise on Jan 11, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

lookin good indeed

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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.

by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Couple more months

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Are the Nets still moving ....???

I think D12 is not coming cause he doesn’t like to play in Newark.

by d2d on Jan 11, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

LIU is out there

we’ll win it all one of those years

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He was feeling it that night

his shot looked good and he was in The Zone

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

he did it for 16 years

earned my respect even though i hate him and Shaq

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly even this year with torn ligimants in his wrist

he’s putting up amazing numbers

29.5 PTS, 5.8 APG, 5.7 RPG.

Mets/Jets/Nets/Lakers OFWGKTA. FREE EARL. twitter @ampatel11

Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.

by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

that's the crazy part all this with torn ligaments...

and it’s not the first time playing with something torn all year & still killing it!!

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 11, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets see if he can go for an Encore tonight

and dude did something Performance Enhancing to his knee’s which many don’t talk about.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

sigh

Mets/Jets/Nets/Lakers OFWGKTA. FREE EARL. twitter @ampatel11

Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.

by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Shameer stays hating on Kobe

"I define passion as extreme emotion."

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Jan 11, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Shamer don't hate

he spits the truth like Jesse Ventura lol

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Mosio, Can't even spell my own name smh

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE

by Keysta101 on Jan 11, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Swag is good, but he's not second coming, at least not yet.

He’s basically the best player on his team after D-Will, and we are only 10 games in.

He’s got long ways to go.

Will I give him in a D12 trade? Heck to the YEAH! Will even drive him south if need be!

I think BK will give him or Morrow, not both. Which is not necessarily a bad thing. Morrow will be money with D12 in the middle, and Swag is not a bad option. Either way we’ll be fine assuming that D12 goes down.

Swag if he’s what we’re hoping he’ll become can always come to brooklyn when his time comes (say 3-5 yrs down the road)…..

by d2d on Jan 11, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I would to, but I could care less for either one when it comes to D12.

My point is that we’ll keep one of them.

Swag is preferred, but Morrow will be money (and maybe more important) with D12 in the middle.

by d2d on Jan 11, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

The list is kind of a joke.

Brandon Knight has been really bad so far and he’s one spot behind Brooks.

And the rest of the list makes no sense either. It’s almost like he threw darts at some pictures on his wall.

Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!

by TWilliAM on Jan 11, 2012 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

Tyreke Evans won rookie of the year even though he wasnt on a great team, it doesnt matter how good your team is

Shumpert is their only PG and he is dishing out assists because thats his job, Marshon has given a lot of nice passes but they get bricked by our shooters.

by RandyOreens on Jan 11, 2012 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

Tyreke Evans had an unreal rookie season.

He averaged 20/5/5, the first rookie to average that since MJ, Oscar Robertson, and Lebron James.

by DarkXaero on Jan 11, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Since when is 6'8 a PG height?

He’s more of a SG or SF.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

do we handicap Shumpert's #s based on the offense he plays in?

Duhon had a solid year under D’Antoni too. Shumpert > Duhon of course. But Iman is doing what he’s doing playing with two all-world forwards.

by Versifiervt on Jan 11, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

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