Schmitz: Magic Won't Wait Till Break
by Net Income on Jan 10, 2012 5:01 PM EST
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PrintOne of the grand assumptions in the "Dwightmare" is that the Magic don't want to trade Dwight Howard until after the All-Star Game on February 26, that the ownership of the team, 85-year-old Richard DeVos and his family, want the game to be a "celebration" of the city and their new arena. Having Howard show up in another team's uniform would tarnish said celebration, or the story goes.
Not so, reports Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel. A trade could happen any time and he adds if Howard doesn't agree to an extension (and there is no indication he will), "then the Magic will deal Dwight and not let him walk like Shaq did 15 years ago. The Magic must receive compensation, and the best compensation now — as always — is Lakers center Andrew Bynum."
Schmitz adds, "That is, of course, if Howard would accept a trade to the Lakers. Even though the Lakers are on his list, it is believed that New Jersey is his first choice (big market, no Kobe to share the marquee)."
- Orlando all-star show shouldn’t stop Dwight Howard trade - Brian Schmitz - Orlando Sentinel
- Charles Barkley: Mavericks have no chance of getting Dwight Howard - Dallas Morning News
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It's getting hot in here
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 5:05 PM EST reply actions
so Bynum is a better return than what we gave Utah for Deron?
do ppl here agree with that?
why would we
compare those two things
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
Finals week? Dwightmare reaches an all time high. School starting back up in a week? Let the Dwightmare continue…
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
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by J-Kay on Jan 10, 2012 5:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
None of any value
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
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Brooks was taken with the Lakers pick
I’m pretty sure that the Lakers have all their picks except this year’s pick b/c they traded last year’s pick to the Nets. They are owed an extra pick from Dallas though, but it’s unknown exactly where that pick lies
All I know is
Lopez/Brooks/Okur/picks + getting rid of hedo/duhon >>>>>>>> Bynum
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to be fair
it’d probably Bynum/picks/getting rid of hedo/duhon and/or Gasol
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How are the Lakers possibly taking back Hedo? Don’t have the contracts to work that at all
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
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Unless they add Pau
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
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Ok then add Pau
Or amnesty a player or something.
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They’re not going to give up both Pau and Bynum. Also it’s well past the deadline for amnestying this season, not that it would make a difference as the Lakers would still be well over the salary cap no matter who they cut.
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oh right i forgot about that.
they could a thrid team involved which they could dump salries too possibly
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will not happen manager already said doenst make sense to get
Rid of pau and bynum potentially two all stars for one all star
by Pure baller15 on Jan 10, 2012 5:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
When is the All-Star game?
And when is the Trade Deadline?
Isn’t the deadline usually after the all-star game?
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Deadline is a couple weeks after the game I believe
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So why can't he be traded after the game?
They could get both their wishes. Dwight won’t walk away like Shaq and he’ll be there in Magic uniform @ ASG
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The point of Schmitz’s article is that at this point Orlando is simply going to take the best offer when ever it comes. If that’s before the break, then that’s that.
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Oh
we were gonna give them 5 PICKS +Lopez and stuff, how much better of an offer do you want?
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My guess is Lopez is not going to the Magic. It could just be posturing, but I genuinely believe they don’t like him (otherwise the deal would be done). Lopez will likely head to a third team and Otis Smith wants BK to do the work to find that third team.
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Anyone would be crazy to say no to a 20ppg soft touch 7 foot center
Especially when you’re losing your own center in the trade.
They’re posturing.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 10, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
...including the Lakers
In a 3 team that moves Lopez to LA, Bynum to ORL, and Howard to NJ. Then LA can move Gasol for KPerk, or another strong defensive center.
It makes too much sense, unless LA is scared of a williams/howard combo running the East. Thoughts?
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by LuNETic on Jan 10, 2012 7:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
because it doesnt make sense for LA
why all that trouble to get worse
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by Hi imreallycool on Jan 10, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
agreed
Why make a lateral trade? Bynum and Pau, have built chemistry in LA, it doesn’t make sense to trade them for players of near equal value.
Why don't we just keep Lopez then?
Give up Hump and Okur to the team that gives up their big?
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Because then you’re not going to have nearly good enough assets to compete with the offer of Bynum. There is no way we get Dwight in a trade without giving up Lopez, even if he doesn’t end up in Orlando.
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
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If they don't want Lopez then he's not a good asset (for them)
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Right, but the point is the assets that Lopez could bring in from a third team
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Oh I see
this is why i never think of trade ideas myself, im so bad at being a GM
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Don't sweat it
There are alot of GMs who aren’t good at it either
by Nardfather on Jan 10, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Trade Deadline = March 15th
ASG is in February. 22nd maybe
I still don't think it happens until after the All Star Game
At this point, there’s no harm in waiting on the Magic end. The Nets pick gets better and you want have angry Floridians crashing the All-Star Game.
I agree, especially if its to us
The tone of the article seems to be it can happen now if the magic get a deal they cant refuse
and unless billy puts a timer on our deal or certain parts of it, we have no leverage. it will all be there march 15th for the magic just the same as today…and I doubt billy tries anything like that cuz its dwight or bust and we cant mess around like that
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Orlando doesn’t like what Nets can offer, even if they throw everyone in deal besides D-Will, according to an Orlando source. Biggest issue
well that's awkward
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
lol funny
What they said about the Knicks last year
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
by Atronic on Jan 10, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
regarding Melo
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
I was about to post the same thing
Everybody said the Knicks had no assets. Then as soon as the trade happened, the media said they gave up too much lol.
by Dylan87 on Jan 10, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
LOL
fine with me. If they don’t want MarSwag, we’ll keep him
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This is why Dwight
needs to take the Lakers out of the picture
smh
by MrDollarBills on Jan 10, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
i think so too
this is the sequel of the MeloDrama, this time the Knicks are the Nets, the Nets are the Lakers, and the star is Dwight.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 10, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
I think you're right
And I think the Lakers aren’t really interested. Why would they give up on Bynum right now?
by BrooklynNets on Jan 10, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
If Howard says Nets & Only Nets
Then it doesn’t happen until after Lopez proves he’s healthy. If he’s willing to go to the Lakers, the Magic can pull the trigger at any time.
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I believe BK will eventually get a third or fourth team involved to get err done.
Of course.
I dont think anyone planned for this to be a two team trade.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 10, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
unless Marshon goes on some type of D-Wade 2008 run
thats the only way this a two team deal. we cant put guns on the Magic front office and force them to like Lopez
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 10, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
who says they don't like lopez
you can’t believe everything you read. I’m sure otis smith isn’t as close-minded as some of the people in the media. He wouldn’t be doing his job.
Welll.....what are you waiting on BK!!!
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I believe BK will eventually get a third or fourth team involved to get err done.
1 minute ago
Such a dangerous game. BK cant be sleeping well
he’s waiting on Orlando and probly doesnt feel like he has to sell the farm cuz it may be Nets and only nets for Dwight right now
but if one morning Dwight changes his mind -- we are up the creek fo’ realz
Otis Smith…what a fool. So Brook+Brooks+Okur+Humphries+5 picks+ taking bad contracts <<<< Bynum (because Buss is not letting two all stars go).
I’m done with this guy. Done.
We never mentioned Brooks and Okur and Hump in the deal I believe.
Plus it’ll be either Bynum + Gasol + take in Hedo
or
Bynum + some other player + picks with a 3rd team involved
if it is the Lakers
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You dont want to trade everything away now
Its going to be hard to get players with 2 Max Contracts next season
Dwight or Bust
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 5:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Isn't that what we're going to do (lol)
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Sadly
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 5:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
why is bondy tweeting things we already know.
by shethravi on Jan 10, 2012 5:15 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Hump can veto any deal he's in
we’ll see if he does
I would if I was him
Our team fans is the only one that gives him any love at all
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If the Nets tell him that they are going to waive his Bird Rights
then he’ll agree to a trade b/c there’s a chance Orlando gives him the contract he wants, or uses his Bird Rights in a S&T elsewhere.
If he refuses to be traded, and the Nets waive his rights to get more cap room, then he’ll have to depend on a team with a good amount of cap room to get even a decent contract. It’s in his favor to agree to a trade
Otis just realizes that Billy can get even more with a third team.
We’re gonna get worked over BIG time for this trade to go down.
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i dont know how much i can trust this
Why would orlando trade dwight knowing we would be a better team therefore decreasing the value of our draft pick
by Pure baller15 on Jan 10, 2012 5:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
READ!
~Not a Quote, Just my thoughts in the blockquote~
Carmelo Anthony wanted to go to the Knicks, right? Where is he now? The Knicks. The Nets offer was arguablly better than the Knicks package but the player always gets what he wants. Dwight Howard want to go to the Nets, and NJ is his #1 choice. The Lakers have a better package than NJ, but Dwight wants the Nets. END OF STORY!
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by BrooklynNets12 on Jan 10, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
can i get an amen?
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
you posted this before haven't you?
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Yes, I thought it was approproate to post again beacuse of all of this.
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by BrooklynNets12 on Jan 10, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
I've said the same thing
But I would include Paul to LA, even though it didn’t end up that way. You could also reference Garnett to Boston, and James and Bosh to Miami, although admittedly under different circumstances. It’s not the stars, it’s their agents pulling the strings behind the scenes.
by BrooklynNets on Jan 10, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
all of those situations are different
Paul didn’t go to NY b/c NY didn’t have any leverage. He couldn’t say, “trade me to NY or I’ll go there as a FA” b/c they could only offer him 13.5 million per year. And also, NY had nothing to trade. It didn’t work for him b/c he wanted to go to a team that had nothing to trade and not nearly enough cap room..
Garnett never asked to be traded to Boston, he simply wanted to go to a contender. As soon as Boston landed Ray Allen, Garnett agreed that he would sign an extension if traded there
Only Time will tell pastor
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 5:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I believe so.
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by BrooklynNets12 on Jan 10, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
wasnt harris injured when we trade for him
by devin34harris on Jan 10, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Harris was always injured. lol
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by BrooklynNets12 on Jan 10, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
If the team agrees to waive the physical, yes.
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Why do people keep asking this?
yes yes yes
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Because in the NBA 2k games you can't!
LOL
by NetsMLT on Jan 10, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Lmao
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 5:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Wait
So can an injured player be traded?
lol
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yes you can
But how many teams are willing to trade for an injured player, especially one that’s over a month away from returning?
If a deal happens now, it means Lopez is going to a lottery team, with assets going from said team to Orlando.
That lottery team is then very lucky
to get probably more picks, Lopez and then their lottery pick
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real interesting thought
Who fits the bill? Anyone looked at this as to what teams may be the 3rd party?
Yea Magic wouldn't trade for an injured Lopez, and Lopez won't be healthy before the break, so Howard probably wont be a Net at the AlllStar Game.
Get healthy Brook! Lol
by Tylerguy42 on Jan 10, 2012 5:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what makes you think Lopez won't be healthy before the break?
His identical twin brother had the same injury and was back in 7 weeks
I could be wrong, I hope I'm wrong
I just always thought he wouldn’t be back until after the break. Foot injuries seem to take longer than usual (I’m thinking Amukumara, the rookie for the Giants) and you know the Nets will make sure he’s totally ready, so they don’t risk re-injury.
by Tylerguy42 on Jan 10, 2012 8:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i liked to see lakers trade bynum for howard soon to make a run at one more ring then lose him in the off season to use
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Lakers will not trade Bynum if Howard doesn't guarantee a re-sign. Period. Too risky.
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yeah and i don't see howard agreeing to resign
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by kory raymond on Jan 10, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
He can do what CP3 did
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 5:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Honestly no way deal happens till Lopez returns fully recovered.
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by LuNETic on Jan 10, 2012 7:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The problem is...
the Magic don’t have all season to wait for Lopez.
(Be reasonable and realize that Lopez will not be the same player as last season in a matter of weeks days… thats if he can even make it back in time)
The Lakers are not giving up Pau + Bynum (I know i've written this 10x)
and our package is far superior to Bynum straight up for Howard. That would be a horrible trade for Orlando.
Why do you think we would offer multiple assests
yet the Lakers are dumb enough to only send Bynum? They have picks as well and other players. They can get another team involved
That being said, I still think our deal is better
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Their pick got us marshon in a
Weak draft.
by SunilP on Jan 10, 2012 8:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Look at it this way...
The Lakers are sending an all-star for an all-star. The NETS, on the other hand, well they want to trade weak role players and an unproven draft pick for a future hall of famer.
but they can work a three team deal as well
and send Pau somewhere where a team is willing to take him
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 10, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
yes they will
they were ready to trade Pau for CP3 and then flip a Bynum package for Dwight.
Pau will go somewhere else and the lakers will send those pieces to Orlando and they will take back Dwight + other Magic players
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 10, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
What he meant was
The Lakers aren’t trading Pau and Bynum just for Howard. They were willing to let go of Pau for Paul, but they would’ve kept Bynum.
Hollinger power rankings is a bunch of bull
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well if it comes down to getting other teams involved and possibly giving up brooks they can forget about dumping bum turk on us
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agree
The Celtics held onto Rondo and Perkins in the KG deal.
If Bynum continues on his dominant streak, they won't trade him.
The lakers are winning and they won’t do anything to change the chemistry. Kobe doesn’t want any more trades. All that we can hope is that Bynum continues to dominate, so that by March 15th, the magic have nothing to do but accept a deal they aren’t 100% optimistic about it from the Nets.
by njnets8 on Jan 10, 2012 5:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I live in SoCal
And here constant Lakers talk. The management LOVES Bynum. They are not going to trade him
i agree
am570, 710espn, am830, all of it (sickening but nothing else one can do while stuck in traffic on the 405). Bynum is Buss’ project, and is finally panning out, he’s not trading him. He’s got a chip on his shoulder and is trying to prove to LA that the team is in good hands with him
by domininaldo1981 on Jan 10, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
don't worry, he won't continue this streak of his
He got an extended vacation in a shortened season. He’ll slow down, or his body will break down, just like Amare did last season and continues to do this season
if dwight says nets only
We give them brook lopez our 1st trade damion james and farmar and petro to too give them another valuable player and send that team houston 1st. DO NOT SEND MARSHON BROOKS ANYWHERE
by Pure baller15 on Jan 10, 2012 5:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
It's Lopez
3 Bums, a lottery pick and maybe a 16-32 pick.
hmm so a top five center a high lottery pick and a Strong draft is not much for to give orlando even knowing that if we dont offer them that hell come regardless
please, when your in the drivers seat you drive like a man.
Not in the sense of talent
but amount of players. How do you expect to fill up 4 more positions?
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lol
We won’t be going anywhere this year then
and everyone will moiso about how much Avery sucks and how King gave up too much and that even with 2 superstars we can’t win big.
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we still be decent
Deron / gaines
Morrow marshon
Deshawn/ shawne
Hump/ jordan
Dwight/ okur
And fill the rest wit d league players the point is that we would have dwight and deron and marshon going into brooklyn without picking up a bad contract and having some cash left to pick up
by Pure baller15 on Jan 10, 2012 5:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
we'll be taken Hedo and duhon if we add morrow as well
deron/duhon/gaines
morrow/marshon/stevenson
hedo/shawne
hump/sheldon
dwight/okur
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by JetsMetsNets on Jan 10, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
why should we take hedo and duhon bad contract
We know dwight is only coming here
by Pure baller15 on Jan 10, 2012 8:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
MarShon and/or Morrow will be gone
Hump possibly too if another team is added in
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oh w8 we're talking about that trade
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even if we go the rest of the year with a terrible bench it will be worth it
We wouldnt lose morrow, marshon which it think both will be valuable in the future
Wait out till free agency and pick up players that will make an impact
by Pure baller15 on Jan 10, 2012 5:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Free agency
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"I’m anxious to see if they make the same mistake twice." - Shaq talking about the Magic.
Salaries have to match
I don’t think Farmar, Petro, Lopez, and James is close enough
Until it's announced that Howard has been traded
Nothing any writer says or writes means anything. As said time and time again, perception is reality in the NBA. If you are perceived as better, then you will be wanted. Bynum is perceived as the 2nd best C in the league (and the way he’s started, rightfully so IMO). Can his knees hold up? Who knows. But his were not like Redd or Stat who just blew up their knees several times. So it’s more possible that he won’t have a recurring issue (this is what the league sees). And like Cousins, teams are willing to by pass the character issues because of the talent.
This is why Magic want Bynum over Lopez. However, Bynum alone and Lopez alone is not what the Magic will look for. They saw how much Denver got back, Utah, New Orleans. They will try to squeeze a team dry (and make up false stories and scenarios to drive the price up).
Now, if Bynum continues to play like he does, Buss isn’t trading him. Jim Buss is out to prove to LA, that the team is in good hands with him. Bynum was his guy. He got him. So if Bynum plays well, then the hard on that Buss has for Bynum will just get bigger, and his pride won’t allow him to deal Bynum anywhere. THIS IS THE BEST CASE SCENARIO.
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Agree Agree and Agree
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by Net Income on Jan 10, 2012 8:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If we can hang onto Brooks and Morrow, and trade for Dwight, we would be competing instantly
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When it comes down to it, I believe Billy will have a deal ready. Otis may ask for more,
but I believe BK would force ORL into a no-trade rather than decimate the roster past a certain point.
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I wish DH would just take everyone but the Nets off the list
Then the Nets would have total control. They could lowball at 2 or 3 picks. No one would rent him for a couple of months for that much.
by LOVEandHATEHOOPS on Jan 10, 2012 5:37 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I think he already has
think about it. what would he say publicly if he truly did say privately, only the Nets? He would probably list a few other teams publicly just to help Orlando with trade leverage.
And why would he even mention the Mavs? They have nothing to trade, it doesn’t make any sense to do so unless he’s just listing other teams just to make a list.
I think he’s said, trade me to the Nets b/c I’m not signing elsewhere
btw
This went unnoticed, but in the previous Dwight thread from today, NI said once again he’s heard Dwight has told the Magic it’s the Nets or nothing.
by Andres B on Jan 10, 2012 5:37 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Can you block quote that?
All I’m finding is that the Nets are his preferred choice.
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
What I wouldn't give for it to be '03 again
He definitely said about a week ago
that he’s heard that Dwight may have very well said that to Orlando.
here's the link to the specific comment I'm talking about
http://www.netsdaily.com/2012/1/10/2696287/broussard-brooklyn-d12s-top-option#88207290
that’s in reply to a comment of mine saying I think Dwight has told ORL it’s NJ or nothing.
I sound like a broken record now.
But the difference between trading for Dwight and signing him straight up is HUGE. Major difference in supporting cast. Not just Marshon and Lopez, but the 2012 picks too, one of them quite possibly a lottery pick.
I understand.
But if it IS Nets or nothing, who cares where gets traded? He’s reaching free agency regardless.
If he is traded to the Lakers
He is staying.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 10, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
No way you can say that with certainty.
Since the day he said he would considering extending with four teams, we’ve heard:
1) he doesn’t want to follow Shaq’s footsteps.
2) he may have told Otis it’s Nets or nothing.
And the Nets should determine what the case is...
because if he let’s the Nets know that it is truly them or nothing, BK should know not to make a trade.
Unless there is an issue between him and Bryant
I cannot fathom him ditching the Lakers. Magic Johnson would pass out.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 10, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
The other thing.
We have heard nothing anytime recently that indicates L.A. would trade for Dwight. Kobe doesn’t want to lose his big men, neither does Buss. The Buss family loves Bynum.
Don’t forget Jim Buss’ interview with TJ Simers:
“We’ve done everything within the rules that we could to explore this situation until we were just spinning our wheels,” he says. "The player is still in control of his own destiny; he can block a trade just by saying I’m not going to sign a new deal and stay where he is.
“I personally believe now that we have the team that we will be playing with all season long.”
I think you jump at the earliest possible opportunity to land Dwight
A lot can happen in between the deadline and free agency that could change his mind. We can’t leave anything up to chance
Completely agree.
Ideally I’d like the next pick and MarShon to stay.
by LOVEandHATEHOOPS on Jan 10, 2012 5:41 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I agree, but do you think Lopez stays for less than max? He will get max offers.
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
What I wouldn't give for it to be '03 again
I don't see anyone wanting to give Lopez max money
I love the guy but I just don’t think he’s a max player
youll be surprised
i dont see lopez getting more than 11 a year. Teams are going to use his foot and his rebounding as excuses for lower amounts of money.
If he explicitly stated "I'm signing with the Nets in the offseason" if I'm not traded
would he be fined?
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
What I wouldn't give for it to be '03 again
He can say they to Magic management.
by LOVEandHATEHOOPS on Jan 10, 2012 5:42 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Well I'm just hoping that LA gets wind of it and decides to not make an offer
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
What I wouldn't give for it to be '03 again
Seems they already got wind of it
Buss made comments a while ago that seemed to say they know Dwight isnt too hot for LA
No. If Dwight hits free agency we are golden, and immediately become the 2 seed in the east
with his signing. Dwill, Swag, Pick, Lopez, Howard is INSANE
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
What I wouldn't give for it to be '03 again
Keeping MarShon and a high pick would be huge for the Nets
These guys can help right away.
by LOVEandHATEHOOPS on Jan 10, 2012 5:47 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
cmon guys
we all know his heart is set on Duh Mecca!!
wolves never rest
by pope of lofe on Jan 10, 2012 5:49 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
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BS
Orlando will not trade Dwight until the deadline. If at all. The arena will be empty without Dwight. Here are the facts
Otis said all trade scenarios will be there at the deadline.
Orlando is winning and will make the playoffs with Dwight
The Dwightmare is not as bad as the Melo drama
The Nets are losing and the value of the pick is going up
MKupchak said he did not offer Pau and Bynum
Otis already accepted the Nets deal earlier in the year but ownership nixed it
Otis has not said ownership is ready for a trade
MarShon is increasing his trade value
The Wallace/Lopez one supposedly got killed at the ownership level
supposedly
it was in some orlando-based article back when that deal was rumored
It was stated that the deal got all the way to ownership
this was preseason
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
What I wouldn't give for it to be '03 again
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_dwight_howard_magic_nets_121411
With the framework of a deal in place, talks had reached the ownership level in Orlando, league sources said. Nevertheless, Magic ownership did not approve of the trade, and general manager Otis Smith then informed teams Howard had been removed from the market.
Howard told teammates on Tuesday that he thought the trade to the Nets was a "done deal," a league source told Y! Sports. Twenty-four hours later on Wednesday, Howard told them that he was under the impression that "ownership killed it," the source said.
However, if Dwight says NJ or nothing, and there's no other offers
then suddenly BK has leverage. He can try to smoke ORL out, see if they’ll risk hanging on to him past the deadline or take an offer he feels is reasonable.
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
What I wouldn't give for it to be '03 again
I 100% agree
anyone that thinks the nets are getting Dwight before March 15th or darn close to it are nuts IMO
its just not happening
and this article says he could go if the magic are bowled over, and our deal clearly does not do that.
Well duh
A reporter can’t go out there and say “I know for sure this and this will happen”. The problem isn’t the reporters, it’s the fans that want concrete reports every day and get angry when they don’t get it.
If the Magic don't want a lotto pick in the draft
King could EASILY swing that for an impact player like Wallace if that’s what ORL is looking for.
He said "LIKE" Wallace
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Otis agreed to it, the ownership decided against trading him before the season
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
And our original offer was Marshon-less. I’ve read everywhere that Otis doesn’t like Brook. i’m lost…
And the Nuggets didn't like Knicks package
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by eLonepb on Jan 10, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Because it's public posturing to get the Nets to pony up more.
This is why anyone who thinks the Nets won’t be giving up Marshon is absolutely crazy.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
but if its truly Nets or nothing
I feel as if King has the upper hand in this. Forgive me whoever was saying this earlier today, but if Dwight wants the Nets and only the Nets, he can certainly find a way to keep either the Nets ’12 pick or MarShon.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 10, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
if dwight has already talked to bk proky and good friends with deron i don't see why we won't know whats going on in the magic FO we have the lleverage we will know if lakers are actually interested or just trying to ge us to give more
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 10, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
the spy is dwight he's are spy
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 10, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Because Dwight will leave anyway
And the fact he does not like Brook Lopez does not mean he won’t take him if that’s the best offer available to him.
why would we go give up brooks now when we already had a deal done without him in it
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 10, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
some teams with veterans on big contracts will be done come March and will happily take our rebuilding assets and send those proven players to ORL.
I’m not worried about that, King already engineered a 3 team trade that Otis liked enough to take to ownership.
It's only a matter of time till the trade happens
BK has the deal in place and ready to pull the trigger as soon as ORL ownership is ready.
There are things going on in the background that we will never know. We can speculate all we want but the honest truth of exactly why this or that happened or didn’t happen probably will never be known.
This is for sure though, Dwight wants to be a Net and play with his friend and fellow All-Star Deron Williams.
We all know about how attractive Brooklyn is. We know how LA feels about giving up all their big men. We know our deal is better. We know Dwight will sign long term here.
It’s only a matter of time!
I will patiently wait for Dwight’s arrival.
by breaking20 on Jan 10, 2012 6:14 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
trade him to the lakers already
then we can trade dwill and everyone can move on. a team with dwill/howard surrounded by a bunch of d-leaguers or old guys will stink anyway.
Worst message on this board, ever. You know somethng about managing a roster, building a group of players? How can yu can write that?
This is turning into Melo-Drama II...
And I like it !
If Howard wants Nets…he’s going to the Nets.
It’s just a matter ot time know…
I hope the Dwightmare ends like Gladiator
Brook Lopez falls to the ground, defeated.
Deron Williams walks over to him, and Brook tells him:
“[Marshon] is safe.”
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
by GMJigga on Jan 10, 2012 6:15 PM EST reply actions 17 recs
they will demand him
Stan Van Gundy already has a man-crush on him
by SovietBrooklyn on Jan 10, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
What a scout said abut Marshon
“He competes. He tries to defend. He has a knack for scoring. Yeah, I really like him,” said one veteran NBA scout.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
by Atronic on Jan 10, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I trust it...
Orlando Sentinel is the Magic’s errand boy.,,,
They get all their “leads” straight from ownership/management…
I hope your right
Like Mr. DB said, I hope they hurry up and trade him already since its pretty clear he’s not going to resign
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 10, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
We will have the leverage if..
Orlando fully believes the Lakers arent making any trades.
But if the Lakers show are willing to deal, then Billy will have to throw everything but DWILL at ORL and well end up with two stars and half a team like the Knicks last year.
But since weve come this far with the “Dwight or Bust” mantra, I guess well have no choice.
What I love about all this Laker talk...
is that it seems Howard still lists the Nets as his #1 destination…
These superstars nowadays end up where they want to go.
That’s why Orlando is in a tough spot. Even if they like the Lakers offer better then the Nets, Howard makes the final call…Just like Melo did.
well if that's how they feel
hurry up and trade him to us so he and d-will can orchestrate a kidd and carter-esque run to the playoffs ala 2004-05
if that does happen
having the rough schedule at the beginning of the season (with games we’d have trouble winning even with Lopez) will end up being a blessing, cause our end of season schedule would be a cake walk.
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
I never found out what happened
What happened with AI to begin with, I missed the whole thing.
im really hoping Howard says an extension is off the table
We should learn from the Knicks, don’t gut the team for a player who WANTS to be here. I’m starting to think we should call the bluff. Player loyalty to an organization today is being tight lipped and letting your team get the best deal back in exchange for getting sent to the destination you want ala the Melo-Drama. Brooks + a lottery pick with Deron and Dwight would be special
by SovietBrooklyn on Jan 10, 2012 6:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
thats why brooks shouldn't be traded he can easily be a 30ppg guy
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 10, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
easily really?
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
30PPG???
Neither Kobe nor Lebron has ever averaged 30ppg.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
damn really?
I must’ve been asleep
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
In 05-06
he averaged 35.4 in 80 games.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 10, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lebron did average thirty...
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
Wow so he did, and Durant and Kobe
So I guess we think Marshon is the next Kobe, Durant, Lebron?
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
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he can play ball give him two years and kobe FGA he's up there in ppg
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 10, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
durant averaged more then 30ppg 30.1 hhaha
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 10, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
I can't wait for this deal to get done
BK needs to get this done. if he’s really working hard then right now as we speak hes putting together a trade thats gonna have Dwight in Nets uniform by the end of the week.
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
People need to stop mentioning the Nuggest/Melo situation as to why that means D12 will end up here
1) This isn’t proof. Its not like you’re posting a trend of 10 examples and them all working out that way. It’s one example, and it doesn’t have any bearing on this situation.
2) The only relevancy to the Nuggets scenario, is that the player does have power. But that is SOLELY up to the player and how much of it he displays and uses. Melo might have said “I won’t sign an extension with NJ”, but that doesn’t mean Howard is going to say he won’t sign an extension with the Lakers. Either he might not take it that far or he might settle. Howard isn’t Melo, and Melo isn’t Howard.
3) You’re assuming that Howard wants the Nets over the Lakers as much as Melo wanted Knicks over the Nets.
I hope that the Dwightmare ends like Inception.
Dwight Howard will be a Net along with Deron Williams, the #2 pick in the NBA draft and MarShon Brooks.
But are we really just stuck inside a dream?
"I'll tell you a riddle...
… You’re waiting for a train, a train that will take you far away. You know where you hope this train will take you, but you don’t know for sure. But it doesn’t matter. How can it not matter to you where that train will take you?"
New insight to life as a Net fan ;-)
by fly75 on Jan 10, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
would be so funny
if Lakers were all set to do the trade for Dwight and then it’s canceled by Stern
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
wouldn't happen
10:30 a.m. on february 23, 2011 woke up with no hope.
12:30 p.m. on february 23, 2011 hope was born
D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
It sure would be funny because it would be impossible.
Both teams are owned by the league. Sterno could not set a Bynum-Howard trade on fire if he wanted to.
I wasn't serious, but
doesn’t the league have the right to nix any trade?
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
Sure but it would have to be totally egregious.
They didn’t nix the ridiculous trade that Boston made to acquire Kevin Garnett. Nobody thought Al Jefferson was the next Kevin Garnett. It set the T-Wolves back for years, but hey, he was going to leave anyway.
Similarly, no one is under the impression that Brook Lopez or Marshon Brooks will be Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant. You don’t get equal value for superstars. The Carmelo Anthony trade by the Knicks was a down-right stupid deal.
The Nets had to give away the farm for Deron Williams because they had no leverage. Now? Deron Williams, Brooklyn- leverage.
Again I don't think it would happen
just being silly, ha ha ha
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
It'd be funnier if they did the trade and Bynum failed his physical and had to come back to LA.
Then we’d maximize our leverage hahaha
Lakers assets:
Bynum
Mavericks pick
8.9 million trade exception for Hedo
Pau (if they decided to blow everything up)
and dwight saying NO
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 10, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oops 8.9 million for Odom
I am not a capologist.. can they use the Trade Exception on Hedo?? Or no because hero makes 11 million?
Nets assets:
Lopez
Brooks
A Very good draft pick in a GREAT draft, and a lottery-locked pick from the Rockets that will be valuable to them next year when the Rockets (hopefully) improve.
Two NBA starting players. 2 Draft picks.
oh i'm not comparing assets
just stating what some are missing.. that the Lakers do have more than Bynum
But. if Orlando likes Bynum a lot.. may be hard to change their mind
Mavs pick will likely be 20th or so…not bad….
Orange at the end of the day when the Lakers and Magic make a PRELIMINARY deal, the Lakers will have to speak directly with Dwight Howard. They are going to say, will you sign an extension here?
Dwight could say, NO, I want to play for New Jersey. You have to hope that’s what he says.
At that point, Lopez and picks for Dwight Howard. Sorry Orlando, but he was leaving anyway. We don’t owe you anything.
agreed.. that would be the dream scenario
Lakers wouldn’t trade Bynum if Howard was iffy….
Bynum really has been fantastic… http://www.nba.com/playerfile/andrew_bynum/game_by_game_stats.html
Please don't ban me
Use at your discretion, NetsDaily posters.
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
by GMJigga on Jan 10, 2012 6:39 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
i'm mad that i can't grab her butt
by MrDollarBills on Jan 10, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
You can, but there are consequences.
For instance: having a totally awesome day!!!!!
(in jail)
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
by GMJigga on Jan 10, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
grabbing her butt
wont land you in jail… Please, you can tell the cops it hit your hand and natural instincts of flight or fight was to grab.
Sure, I remember her
But I think I remember her differently.
by brother_rat on Jan 10, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Shes so sexy smh...
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
Dwight
Needs to be in a Nets uniform by the end of this week.
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
If we have to give up either the lotto pick or Brooks to get Dwight..
I assume everyone would keep MarSwag?
I'm not so sure about that.
Depends how good the pick looks in March
Can someone hook me up
with some new dwight nets pics?
D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)
by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 6:44 PM EST reply actions
I would MUCH rather get Dwight via free agency but that's not realistic IMO.
If a week before the deadline, the trade requests from DH12 still stands, THEY WILL HAVE TO MOVE HIM. No doubt about it.
Our best offer is Brook Lopez+Marshon+2012 lotto pick+ take back bad contracts
Lakers’ best offer is Bynum+Gasol+take back Turk
I don’t think either team will give up EVERYTHING for Howard but you never know.
Dream scenario is
Dwill
Swag
MKG OR Barnes
Lopez
DH12
but it won’t happens sadly.
just imagine this coming into brooklyn...
D-Will/Duhon/Gaines
Brooks/Morrow
Barnes/Williams
Lopez/Hump/J-Will
Howard/Okur
Jersey Strong. Brooklyn Ready. 2012 Nets.
by JetsMetsNets on Jan 10, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
The better Bynum plays...
do you think it’ll help us or hurt us? On one hand, he might play so well that LA decides to keep him, but on another hand, he could play so well that Orlando is so desperate to grab him they do a one for one swap with some picks.
hard to say.. maybe the lakers change their mind and trade Pau for Scola and Martin
that would be a better trade for them anyhow than Bynum for Dwight
A crazy as it sounds.. in 2012.. Bynum is the 2nd best center and not so far from Dwight
if they like Farmar, we can then trade them Farmar and the Rockets pick for the Mavs pick
and the Lakers can use some of their trade exception
pg- farmar/fisher
sg- kobe/kevin martin
sf- barnes/artest
pf- scola/murphy
c- bynum
is a decent team
guess its no secret anymore
https://twitter.com/#!/rwindrem/status/11059102754
by William_H_HOLLA on Jan 10, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
thats not him..is it?
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
Feels like I'm watching the Goonies lol
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Whoever he is
He makes this website great. Let’s all be thankful.
by NetsMLT on Jan 10, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
I just hope Orlando don't ask for NI too..
by M I K E on Jan 10, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 15 recs
tell you what....this guy robertwindrem, whether he is NI or not, his twitter followers are gonna
increase after that little article
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 10, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
see above....i already gave him props
didnt wanna overdo the lovefest
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 10, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
sorry, see below i mean
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 10, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Daniel Goldstein commented on that article!!!
That millisecond you're sure you're going to die when you lean back in your chair a little too far.
The douche of all douches
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Whatever happened to that garden incident with him?
Did he ever talk to the NYP?
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 10, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha
Goldstein took that three mil and hauled!!
by MrDollarBills on Jan 10, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
lol yeah he's no fool
Money can even talk to him.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
me too. Mind = Blown
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Jan 10, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it helps us..
If the Lakers are over achieving cuz hes playing well, I dont see the Lakers trading him considering everything Buss has already said about not trading him.
And it was pretty obvious how mad Kobe was when they traded Odom, so I think the Lakers front office might be gun shy to trade Bynum if the Lakers are rolling and Kobe is happy.
They traded Odom for NOTHING. Kobe was mad ‘cause they took a guy he didn’t really like and then they didn’t even get anything out of it!
I agree you cant compare the two trades..
But i was just saying the idea of making a trade that your franchise player might not agree with given what happened with Odom could deter the Lakers from dealing.
Stefan
Here’s another factor: The harmony and relationship that exists between Dwight and D-Will, does not exist between Kobe and Dwight.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_kobe_bryant_lakers_nba_010912
There’s always a chance these Lakers make that trade for Dwight Howard, but Bryant’s never pleaded a case with management for it.
TRUTH BE TOLD IF NI DOESNT WANT US TO KNOW WHO HE IS.....
THAN I DONT WANNA KNOW WHO HE IS…..
all i know is he has the best run nba blog there is, and this site has helped increase the interest in the nets…..ive always been a die-hard fan, but when i found this board, it increased tenfold……it’s also the cause for many a sleepless nights and some upset stomachs!!!!!
So NI, whoever the moiso you are…..keep it up!
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 10, 2012 7:03 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
Net Income Rocks
Stop trying to find out his idenity. he’d like our resident superhero, we’re bettter off not knowing who he is.
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
by Jay2fly on Jan 10, 2012 7:07 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Yea, that article that calls out who he is seems a little classless
i dont see why they needed to do that
i didnt try......it was posted above dude
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jan 10, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
Is the sick freak behind Nets Daily running some sort of disgusting, depraved Net Fan Site where people actually LIKE the Nets?
Find out this shocking and unbelievable story next on NBC News
by mytoemytoe on Jan 10, 2012 7:10 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
LOL
it truly is amazing how active this blog is for how bad this team has been lately
blows other teams blogs out of the water by a huge margin, no comparison
loyal fans wait till were good again packed house every night
More MarShon Please
by kory raymond on Jan 10, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
aren't we like the most visited blog or something on all of SB Nation? lmfao...
Jersey Strong. Brooklyn Ready. 2012 Nets.
by JetsMetsNets on Jan 10, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
i think third or fourth
arrowhead pride for the chiefs is far and away #1 in sbnation
i think celtics blog is #2
and either nets daily or the trail blazers blog(rip city pride?) is #3
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 10, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know how to check those stats
But I’d be very shocked if Athletics Nation, the site that started everything here, isn’t top 3….
But I have no idea how to even check that.
Winning is everything...Losing is not an option...
Section 4, Row 12...last season at The Rock...
i know Arrowhead Pride is number #1, i've seen mods from plenty of other sites answer that question
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 11, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
What about Atlanta?
Their offer of Joe Johnson/Josh Smith could still be on the table. Common sense says that Johnson’s contract would turn any team off, but we are talking about Orlando here…
why would he resign there?
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 10, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
that team without Johnson and Smoove
with D12 on it isn’t that much better than the team he has now in Orlando
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 10, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
The way Teague has been playing, not so.
teague at PG, Marvin at SF, Horford at PF and Howard at C. Not too shabby.
regardless
he’s not resigning there
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 10, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
You guys worry too much. Howard is going to be a Net regardless of where he is traded. The original
Offer is what Orlando will wind up with.
by Mushman on Jan 10, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i bet bynum struggles tonight...just got a feeling
by netsyankees4life on Jan 10, 2012 7:33 PM EST reply actions
Hahaha Avery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xELWT0veYZM
Listen at the 0:18 mark. “GIVE THE BALL TO DERON!!” as Marshon drives in for the And 1.
Shut up Avery, let the boy cook.
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Avery is starting to grow on me....
Maybe he’s starting to learn…when the games starts in the NBA…it’s all about the players…not the coach. Most great coaches do their major work before the game starts…not during.
by M I K E on Jan 10, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Let him cook, Avery
black belt cooking chef hundred million points on deck WOOP
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
LET HIM COOK!!!!!!
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
I swear I can't stand today's Rappers smh
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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One of the BEST game a duo ever had
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Its my life, and Love it
but some of these rappers just make me wants to cut my ears off lol.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
Follow @Meer2Fly16
One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I love that youtube channel.
I wonder if it’s an NetsDaily user.
by thermodynamic on Jan 10, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
do not trade for dwight
he wants to be here. let the magic trade him as a rental to another team with delusions of resigning him. Just hold on to our chips and sign him. Its not smart to give all that up. I dont believe we have to. I dont think the Lakers are going to bite and Dallas has nothing to offer. Weve taken it this far. Tank the season, keep our pick, keep Lopez, then sign him in the off season. If the Lakers dont wanna play with the Magic they are screwed.
I agree...
if we trade all of our assets to get dwight, we still will not win anything. Even he knows that. There will be no one to sign in the free agent market because the class coming up sucks. And we will have no one to use as trade bait because we would have traded everyone for dwight…
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by calling all toasters on Jan 10, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
I love DH12 but.....
I am against giving up MarShon. He could be a scorer like Durant.
by NetsYankee on Jan 10, 2012 7:47 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Just hate Nets Stratergy
Nets should have followed OKC model instead of Heat model. Tell me which team you like in long run,
B Lopez, favors, Kanter, brooks and 2012 1-5 pick vs DH12 n Dwill n co
I doubt...
Nets with Dwill n dh12 will win title in first few years. It will take 2-3 years. Look at heat.
7-10 year?
By 2012 we would be done rebuilding. Plus we could have added some good players via free agency.
Look at the Heat what?
Make the Finals and dominate in their 2nd year?
by Anthony Perez on Jan 10, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
With a full training camp of Deron, Dwight, Marshon, I don't see it that way.
We’re contending in 2012, first year in Brooklyn. Either make it to the conference finals or NBA finals. I believe BK will put the nec pieces around those three.
I believe we get Okur back, cheap, and possibly Hump might hang around. Have Shawne, who seems to have found his shot and DSteve, imo, would return also. We would need a starting caliber SF
Doubt we keep MarShon in a deal
If we do, Billy King is Yoda.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 10, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
If we have the leverage, no need to put him in trade.
It would take Dwight, right before being traded, that he’ll only sign with Nets.
Forget fair....this is business, or Magic would have traded him already.
You try to get what you want with as little as possible. In that scenario, BK would still be nice by taking Hedo and Duhon off their hands. That’s more than fair, considering the position we would be in.
whoa
He could be a scorer like Durant.
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 10, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
shumpert can’t hold SWAG’s jockstrap
by avilanets85 on Jan 10, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I like shumpert and I think he will be a good fit with the Knicks
But he’s playing pretty free not much attention on him never saw a double team in the NBA yet, let alone a triple team.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
you're kidding right?
the only ones ahead of MarShon are Rubio and Irving. even then it’s close
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
he's really talented
and the kid has a lot of potential. But to suggest he could be a scorer like a Durant is a bit much no?
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 10, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
orlando should just save themselves the headache and trade him here. i’m pretty sure if we get 2 or 3 more teams involved that still more than just bynum
Without a third team we offer a better deal than Bynum. Lopez + Brooks > Bynum
But as long as Otis pretends to believe otherwise, we have to continue to sweeten the pot
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Orlando is starting to bore me...
just like Denver did..
Why ? Because we already know what the ending will be.
what will the ending be this time?
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
Nets get Howard...
Haven’t you been paying attention ?
by M I K E on Jan 10, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yea but i was wondering because
you said just like Denver did, so i was thinking that like we all think Howard/Melo is coming to the Nets but then they go somewhere else
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
Can't really blame Orlando for wanting a bigger return.
I’d be miserable if I had no choice but to trade the best big man in the league.
I know...and by all means they should. As much as I love Brook, he's nowhere near Dwights level.
If I were them I’d hold onto Howard till just before the deadline, hoping for a miracle
I want to know how important dumping Hedo/Duhon is to Orlando..
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
If I'm the Nets
then I would either take back those contracts (and throw in Petro’s contract), or include MarShon, wouldn’t do both
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
that means you won't hear about Hamberger's sources for a week
by Andres B on Jan 10, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 13 recs
LOL
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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 10, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
The trade will happen and we won't have to give up marshon!
I am convinced that we have the perfect GM for the job, BK is one of the best when it comes to finding teams for 3 team and 4 team trades.. I’m sure he’ll find another team willing to give Orlando a significant piece for some draft pick in a 3 team trade..
I won’t be surprised if that 3rd team ends up being Utah, they gave kanter, favors, millsap, n Jefferson.. My guess is they give up jefferson or millsap for some draft picks.. One of those guys will be traded soon and it seems BK has a good thing going with those guys over there..
As for the magics, Jefferson and Lopez, and 2012 1st rounder doesn’t sound bad at all so they should take that.. Though they have some strong PF already, they can use them as trade assets eventually.. Whether its Utah or not, BK will find somebody
i made a thread about a trade with those same players and scola and martin and everyone laughed at me lol
It's cuz everyone here is so pessimistic
But it’s definitely a possibility especially later in the season when teams realize their current teams are sub par and decide to make changes and start over.
One of kings strategy is let the whole nba who is being involved in the trade. That way other Gms
Can put in their 2 cents. Philly has been quiet.
Utah puzzles me
I would’ve traded some of those talented bigs a long time ago for some help in the back court to balance that team out…and the other day their name surfaces as one of the teams that registered interest in trading for Cousins haha. What are they thinking?
It'll take the Nets' 2012 1st rounder to part with Jefferson
but I agree, it’s doable. If the Magic value talent more than picks, then they can settle for a lesser pick, like the Houston protected pick.
The dynamics of a Deron/Dwight team-up is diff than a LBJ/Wade team-up, for the latter play a similar game and need the ball in their hands.
Both are Dominant players who were trying to be careful of the other, trying to figure out how to play together.
Deron/D12 is much more simple in the traditional sense. One facilitates/distributes, draws double teams, the other is on the recieving end and also drawss double teams. Because of that, the floor is spread for their shooters to be open.
Even now, if we had Lopez, it would work that way. Just took a while for the guys to start finding their shots, but you get the jist.
If Dwight, right before he gets traded, makes it clear he only resigning with Nets,
BK can offer Lopez, Morrow,Farmar or James, Petro and both picks while still taking Hedo and Duhon along with Howard – that would be him being nice, comsidering we would have all of the leverage.
And we keep Marshon!!!
this
i hope not but if thats what it takes to get it done
by netsyankees4life on Jan 10, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
If I'm the Nets and I'm taking back Hedo's and Duhon's contracts
then I would give up MarShon. It should be 1 or the other
dwight is a top 3 player in the league
probably top 2…. brooks is a bright prospect but still a prospect…. he will be in any trade for dwight it’s only fair
by William_H_HOLLA on Jan 10, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Dude is going to be a terror though
And more than a Jamal Crawford (who he compared himself to)
by Anthony Perez on Jan 10, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
I swear if one more person complains about trading Marshon
Dwight is the second best player in the league. He’s the best Center since Shaq and the gap between him and the other current centers grows year by year.
Marshon is unproven. Sure he had a great 6 games but so did CD-R and T-will. We’ve seen rookies flameout. we’ve seen players not hit their full potential for whatever reason.
This isnt Marcin Gortat or Al Horford, this is Dwight Howard. If you cant trade a rookie for Dwight then what do you trade? Because the nets dont have much outside of him and lopez to trade to where the Lakers or some other team can just up the ante and force the nets hand.
If you wouldnt trade Marshon for Dwight, would you trade him for Lebron or Durant? As long as the Magic dont hold Lopez in high regard and if Lopez cant change their mind before the trade deadline then Marshon is gone. Just like last year, no matter what star the nets were trading for Favors was gone.
Dominant big men arent dime a dozen. Scoring wing players are. King found Marshon, i’m pretty sure he can find another within the draft or two.
The only way Marshon doesnt get traded is if Dwight turns down 27 million which he wont make back in endorsements because he is marketable anywhere like Lebron and is basically making top dollar off that and comes in free agency or Marshon starts playing like a bum the rest of the season
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 10, 2012 8:33 PM EST reply actions 16 recs
He isn't the 2nd best player in the league
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I tihnk KD is number 2
but Dwight is a Top 4 player in the league
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If I'm starting my own team today, I am taking Dwight Howard at #2
Behind only Lebron. You can’t bank on finding a comparable big man anywhere else.
The Top 4 aside from LeBron is all debatable
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Dwight Howard is at worst #2
Lebron is great, but there are other great SFs like Durant and Melo. Dwight is in a class of his own, both on offense and defense. What he does cannot be replicated by anyone else. The same can’t be said for Lebron b/c Durant and Melo could come close
I'd put him at #2
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by calling all toasters on Jan 10, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
By far the best defender
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Jan 10, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Who's complaining? Just stating that we may have the leverage to not have to include Marshon in the deal
Obviously, if he has to go, cause that’s the only way it gets done, than so be it, but in business, it not how you sell where you make your money, it’s how you buy. If you buy at the right price, you get better value for the puchase.
So you don’t put him in unless it’s a deal breaker, assuming it only a two team trade. If there are 3-4 teams, it may be a non-issue.
by bkfire on Jan 10, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 14 recs
Thank you, THIS is what deserves to be green.
If we have to give up most of our young talent to get Dwight Howard so be it but Billy King isn’t worth a dollar if he isn’t trying to keep as much talent here as possible.
by mytoemytoe on Jan 10, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeaaaaaaaa i hear that
but why is marshon brooks the line in the sand? its not a logical argument
a logical argument (if we have leverage) is give them NOTHING
why give them brook lopez? why give them a 1st round pick at all?
lets give them petro and a 2nd rounder -- explain to me why holding the line on Brook Lopez or a 1st rounder is different than holding the line on Marshon?
Why is it ok to accept we have to give up Brook Lopez + 1st (or 2 1sts), but its NOT OK to assume we have to give that up + Marshon…doesnt make sense to me
if we have leverage, we should bury them. having leverage over marshon doesnt really make sense
The trade still has to be approved by the league, man. That would be the laughable trade in history.
These GMs still have a job to do, and even on a rental basis , Otis would get a better offer than that.
lol i hear that
but i still dont know
still a bit strange to me
It's not about trading him for Dwight...
It’s about giving up him Lopez and a 1st round pick.. It’s to much, it’ll leave us wit two all stars and a bunch of crap.. Dwill n Dwight by themselves is not gonna get it done against the elite teams.
bird in the hand(trading marshon for dwight now) is more than the bush(hoping dwight comes as a free agent)
like i said. this isnt some marginal starter. Dwight, Lebron, Durant, Griffin: if you have the opportunity to get him you dont play mind games trying to dupe Orlando. Just be businessman and get it done with with professionalism, isnt that the same reason we ripped Uriji for and praised O’connor?
You dont give the Lakers or anyone else a chance to make a better offer. You get him now and work from there. Having Dwight, Morrow, James, Hump, and Deron is a problem i think about 29 other teams would kill to have as a problem right now.
Marshon is not the first sleeper in a draft and wont be the last. King will find another Marshon soon and with how deep next years draft class is supposed to be I wouldnt be suprised if King found another one next year.
I will never expect the Nets or any team to lowball for Dwight especially if playoffs are still a possibility this year. This is Dwight not Anthony Randolph. You dont lowball for Hakeem, you do for Robert Horry though.
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 10, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
For all we know, the original deal may still be in play, which did not include Marshon.
That wouldn’t be low balling, just pushing the original plan. If it takes Marshon, again, then do it. But Billy doesn’t have to go in with his pants around his ankles.
It’s called negotiating, and you can be sure there is a lot going on thru back channels (Dwight and Deron talking about who they would like to have stick around, conveying that to BK and Avery). No mind games, just a little work involved, hence the other teams that may be involved.
Like the player comparisons, but it’s still a negotiation and that’s how it works.
totally disagree
It’s not about what we’re getting back OR what we’re giving up, it’s about what our competition is offering. Brooks+Lopez>Bynum, no matter if you think Bynum is better than Lopez or not.
Then you have to figure that the Nets’ 2012 has good value too, AND that they’re taking back Hedo and Duhon’s contracts too. None of the Nets’ competition can even come close to matching that, unless of course the Lakers are going to throw in both Gasol and Bynum ,which Buss himself came out addomately that he won’t.
It’s like paying sticker price for a used car that the dealer must sell, when the only other person interested in the car is asking for $1000 off the sticker price. Yes, you can pay the sticker price and get the car, but you can also pay $999 less AND still have the best offer. It’s bad business to throw away assets like that
totally disagree
-The Celtics held onto Rondo and Perkins in the KG trade
-The Lakers did not give up Bynum in the Gasol trade
-Orlando is already stacked at SG with J-Rich and Reddick locked in long term.
-Brook Lopez is a HUGE asset, so is taking back Turk, so is taking back Duhon, and so is the Nets’ 2012 pick. That’s 4 big assets the Nets are giving up, much more than what LA or Dallas can offer.
-LA is not giving up both Pau and Bynum without getting another big asset back in return. Brooks+Lopez > Bynum, so why give up more assets?
So if Orlando insists on taking MarShon, then they have to keep Turk’s and Duhon’s contracts, which should give the Nets cap room to get another player. It’s not so much as the Nets are giving up too much talent, but if the Magic are going to throw their garbage into the deal, then the Nets should be compensated. Why pay $3000 for the used car that the next guy will only pay $2300 for? That’s what people are complaining about
by Murse Mike on Jan 11, 2012 8:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Deron could be telling Dwight that they need marshon in brooklyn...
In the end Dwight has all the leverage n the world. It’s his world and we are living in it.
but why wouldnt deron tell dwight
we need brook lopez + a high 1st round pick talent this year too
I dont stress over this anymore
I honestly dont listen to anything anymore, I am just waiting for when and if it happens and enjoying(trying) the team and players we have now. I figure if we get him it would be AMAZING because that would mean we wouuld definitely keep dwill and be an instant contender, but if we dont then we have a team with a bright future. I personally think d-will will stay, he will be the face of the franchise and we have very good young players in marshon and lopez and we have draft picks and cap space. Obviously with the roster we have its not a win now situation, but with a good draft and a new arena to appeal free agents . Get him or not we have a very bright future.
Anyone else think
it may not be a coincidence that this trade talk started heating up the day Marshon became tradeable?
Is it really heating up though?
It just sounds like a bunch of speculation from the writers and not linked to any credible, inside source. When a trade does occur I bet it’ll be without warning. These guys writing articles about Dwight are no different than us here at NetsDaily discussing potential Dwight Howard deals from every angle imaginable.
All of the Orlando Sentinel writers are delusional Magic fans
Don’t take anything they write seriously
by Nets2410 on Jan 10, 2012 8:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
WOW toronto is bad
ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE
they have 4 wins, how?
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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 10, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
ya no 0-19 for the wizards.....
freaking raptors no wonder why they are in toronto they aren’t good for anything
no wonder why we beat em
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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 10, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
no wonder they beat both
and toronto lost to the wizards and both teams fell flat on their face after facing the nets
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 10, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
An interesting comment from John Hollinger’s Power Rankings column, which rates the 76ers as the best team in the NBA
Put all that in, and what comes out is that the Sixers have played the best, not that anyone in Philadelphia has noticed. They drew 8,612 fans last night, a shockingly low figure even for a seasoned Atlanta Hawks attendee like me.
Wow, 2001-02 and 2002-03 anyone? A sneaky good team without any marketable stars doesn’t draw fans.
Once the playoffs started the building was sold out. Check out footage from Nets-Hornets in the second round of 02
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Philly will probably catch on eventually
everyone’s all about the Flyers now, and the lockout probably made it so that anyone who might have been interested in the Sixers lost interest.
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Philly isnt a big draw anyway
Unless they have a mega star like AI. but I see the comparison and it makes the nets fans look worse because Kidd was MVP caliber back then and the nets went to the finals two years in a row
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 10, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Rubio killin it right now.
Awesome matchup if you’ve got NBA TV. Rose vs Rubio. Polar opposites, visionary floor general vs explosive juggernaut.
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obviously I switched my adjectives around there, ya'll know who I meant
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first time watching Rubio
the kid has vision
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Closest thing to a young JKidd, but without the blinding speed.
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yea he's missing a lot of extra things that Kidd had that most PGs don't
namely rebounding and a bigger body to back down those smaller guards. Rubio is closer to Nash from what I’ve seen, though he needs to get more a shot.
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Rubio is an excellent defender, something Nash is horrendous at.
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well I haven't seen enough of Rubio to judge him on that yet
and I think Nash’s defensive inadequacies are a little overblown. he played in ’Antoni’s system most of his career.
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Nash can't guard his shadow.
But trust me, I’ve watched a LOT of Rubio. He’s more in the vein of Kidd than Nash.
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Trust me, I know, dude was my idol.
But he’s the closest thing. Doesn’t mean he’s anywhere near kidd.
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I tried to think of a PG in the league to compare to Kidd, but I can't
Chris Paul and Deron Williams have superior offensive games, but neither has the vision and intangibles as much as Kidd, though Paul comes closest.
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
comparisons are fun to make
but I agree in this case
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
He truly is.
A pg faster with the ball than without it. A hellish defender, with unmatched vision, who could single handedly will a team to win. All without scoring a single point.
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no
I’d still put Magic and Stockton over Kidd.
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Magic yes, Stockton no.
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it's up for debate.
but I’d say Stocktown was a both a better passer and defender. he never had to will his team quite like Kidd did cause he had Malone, so Kidd has the scoring edge, but you can’t mess with Stockton’s passing ability. In that sense I think he’s the greatest passer of all time (and his assists record would agree).
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
I believe Stockton is the greatest fundamental passer ever.
Hit guys where and when they needed to be hit. But Stock did NOT have the vision Kidd or Magic did. They saw plays before they happened. I give Kidd the edge in passing over Stockton because of the degree of difficulty. He could literally make the perfect pass behind his back/no-look/slapping the ball/between defenders/over the shoulder/etc. And Kidd’s defense was better than Stock’s. Stock could only dream of guarding Kobe, Durant, and Lebron effectively en route to a title.
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I don't know, I think Stockton was quite teh tenacious defender
Kidd could always guard guys a few inches bigger than him, which is a good advantage, but Stockton gets under your skin and hounds your dribble.
as for court vision, I’ve seen Stockton thread some pretty impressive needles with his passes. and who could forget this play:
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Again Stock was a phenomenal passer, but Kidd is just a whole other level:
First play of the video, a no-look, mid-air tip pass off an outlet pass to hit a running RJ in stride.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8odQbGMv_Vs
Or this, @00:37, a spinning, no look, behind the back lob pass to Todd Mac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQC5NmsCHSc
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Oh man, that Kidd-Marbury Nets-Knicks rivalry was the best
I used to keep a running log of the verbal back and forths, and then their stats each night.
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can we just agree that they're both ridiculous lol
I don’t wanna have to choose. I’m just sayin Stockton’s PG superiority is often overlooked IMO. but no question him and Kidd are 2 and 3, order up for debate
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Hey I'm not trying to prove anyone right or wrong
I just love comparing all-time pgs.
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Unfortunately, he is not.
Magic. Though Kidd, imo, is top 2 or 3.
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If you had to start a team with any pg in his prime, and couldn't pick Magic
I’d have an insanely difficult time picking anyone but Kidd.
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Magic had even better vision than Kidd, if you can fathom that.
Plus he was 6-9. Could play every position on the floor.
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Hey I didn't say I liked it either lol.
But many have Magic as 1A on the list of greatest players of all time.
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Outlaw: 0-6
Fredette 1-6 while starting. Bust?
too much scoring power on that team
how can the Kings expect to accommodate the offensive brilliance of both Jimmer and Outlaw?!
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I woulndn't mind trading with other teams that are struggling like us right now---
Wash
Charlotte
Detroit
Sactown
GS State
Minny
Houston
Milwaukee
Change of scenery, better utilized under dif coaching, better chemistry with a diff collection of payers – all reason why some of these teams should look to trade with eachother.
some of these teams want to be bad though
being bad this year grants you the biggest asset you could get, a high pick in a stacked draft.
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Has anyone read the comments on tthe article that came with this post?
Its comical! One guys proposed this trade
Bynum is our best choice but we have to get a third team now I like the fact of getting marshon brooks from the nets the Kid is goin to be 10 times better than Nelson will ever be plus if we can snag kris humphries thats another plus cuz he is a double double guy now the trahave to be like this LAKERS get Howard n okur. NETS get gasol ORLANDO get Bynum humphries and brooks and if we can do a separate trade with the sixers I send nelson n Turk for iggy and Lou Williams our starting,lineup would be C-Bynum PF-Anderson SF-iggy SG-richardson PG-brooks BENCH C-humphries PF-big baby SF-Clark SG -jj PG-Hughes
Yeah, Im sure the Nets would love to help the Lakers get Howard and the Magic get Bynum, Hump, and Brooks while they end up with an aging Gasol! LOL
brooks at PG...
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by JetsMetsNets on Jan 10, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Another guy posted this
I would love to see d12 traded for Andrew barnaigni & their
pg.(name escapes me).
Yeah, lets trade our franchise player for that awesome PG whose name I dont even know! LMAO!
If we didn't have Dwight clamoring to play with us, I'd pray for a Deron-Rubio trade
for the sheer pleasure of watching a PG who knows how to run an offense again. You may now crucify me.
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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 10, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree but we would get no scoring lol
by njnets8 on Jan 10, 2012 9:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No way should the magic get Brooks plus a potential top 5 pick.
They should have a choice of only one…what kinda craziness is this…Magic has no leverage. it is obvious Howard wants the nets. Billy needs to stay firm… I’m actually hoping they don’t trade him at all this season.
your a good person thank you
by Pure baller15 on Jan 10, 2012 10:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
marshon is gone
sucks but if a trade goes down for dwight then marshon hump lopez and one picks is gone….jus accept it and and say nothing…look at what denver got for melo and ny was only place he wud go….dwight will make sure orlando gets the most he wont leave them to dry….accept the fact…WERE GETTING DWIGHT HOWARD CMON PEOPLE
Hump has a no trade clause if I'm not mistaken.
by Anthony Perez on Jan 10, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
he could have a trade kicker too
which would earn him an extra $600,000 to $700,000 to play 22 games in another city and then be an RFA.
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Hump can't be a Restricted FA
& the acquiring team wouldn’t have bird rights on him. That being said, he has to know that the Nets will renounce his bird rights to remove his cap hold, so his bird rights are meaningless.
what are you talking about?
when someone gets traded, if his former team holds his Bird Rights, then those rights get traded with him
Without the player’s consent when the player is playing under a one-year contract (excluding any option year) and will have Larry Bird or Early Bird rights at the end of the season. This includes first round draft picks following their fourth (option) season, who accept their team’s qualifying offer for their fifth season. When the player consents to such a trade, the team loses its Larry Bird/Early Bird rights, and the player is considered a Non-Bird free agent. Note: when there is an option year involved, they can get around this regulation by invoking the option prior to the trade.
https://webfiles.uci.edu/lcoon/cbafaq/salarycap.htm#Q88
Without a Doubt
His salary will be used for cap matching purposes.
totally disagree
-Brook Lopez is a HUGE asset
-Nets’ 2012 pick is a big asset
-MarShon is a good asset
-taking back Duhon and Turk’s contract is VERY valuable
Any combination of 2 of the above is better than what anyone else is offering; it will be stupid to give up all of that. Why pay sticker price on a car when the only other people interested want $1000 knocked off?
Because the car that has the sticker on it
Is a one of a kind model, of which there is no other on the market, that any team would mortgage the house to buy.
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Anthony Randolph has so much potential.
Just like Brandon wright , but prob won’t live up to it
by njnets8 on Jan 10, 2012 9:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Would you say he has....
Hall of Fame skills?
by NetsKiNG on Jan 10, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Who wouldn't?
Awww I miss Gallo like I miss killa.
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by eLonepb on Jan 10, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I wonder if he's here lurking under a different name hmmmmm
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
idk man
Anthony Randolph just made a pretty HOF-worthy Duncan bankshot from the corner.
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone see this blog about DWill's body language from Mike Mazzeo?
Not sure if it was in the post game thread, but it’s interesting. I always thought the body language thing was an overreaction on our end, but I guess the players see it too. Good to see that Deron acknowledges it. He’s in a tough situation, I don’t think anyone can deny that..
by MikeGreg on Jan 10, 2012 9:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
DWill Isn't a Leader
He’s a great player & could be the best player on a good team, but he’s not a leader. If Howard comes, we become Howard’s team. Deron is a Robin, not a Batman.
by TheNetsFan on Jan 10, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Batman and Superman. Fits their personalities
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Deron would prefer the role of Robin
It is most befitting of a point guard
by nynjlawyer on Jan 10, 2012 10:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
disagree
Would anyone say Kobe wasn’t a leader? Kobe is ALWAYS throwing his teammates under the bus and giving up on his team when they’re losing, yet no one questions his leadership
by Murse Mike on Jan 11, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i wonder
who approached him
wolves never rest
by pope of lofe on Jan 10, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
If we play our cards right we have a roster to open up in Barclays of-
Derron Williams, Anthony Morrow, Marshon Brooks, Jordan Farmar, Damion James, Kris Humphries, Brook Lopez, Dwight Howard, our lottery pick this year, and possibly Houstons pick if its not in the lottery. Thats a very nice 9 man rotation. Shawne Williams, and Petro can pass out the gatoraid during timeouts from the end of the bench.
Trade for Dwight Howard and we have him plus Derron Williams, Anthony Morrow, and the Hump. Not even a starting 5. I think the choice is obvious.
This is very possible unless the lakers blink and offer both their big stars.
That's Impossible
Hump is a goner if we get Howard in free agency. His bird rights will have the be renounced. Not to mention we’d have to shed more salary to sign Howard outright (Shawne, Petro, Farmar, etc.).
i am told
The Russians and Yormark wanted to keep the Nets name, but that Ratner wanted to consider other names.
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by Net Income on Jan 10, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
"Brooklyn NBAisplayedinquartersnothalves?"
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
Oh come one!
Bynum is not as good as everyone thinks he is. These people need to wake up.
um.. Bynum is averaging
18.8 ppg and 15.7 boards and he just turned 24 years old. If he stays healthy.. he is the 2nd best center in the NBA..
by orangeeater on Jan 10, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
put another way
Bynum has 4 games with 15+ rebounds this season (in 6 games)
Lopez has 4 games with 15+ rebounds in his NBA career
by orangeeater on Jan 10, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Lopez is a much better Brad Miller or Big Z
Bynum is a potential all-NBA (or 2nd team) All-NBA center
by orangeeater on Jan 10, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
And right now Kyle Lowry is averaging 10+ apg
this is only the start to a very crazy season. Bynum’s numbers will not hold up, neither will he. His scoring has already dropped big time, And Let’s not forget that he got a 4 game vacation while his aging team played a back to back to back.
Those numbers are almost identical to Dwight (who's not 100% in it but still)
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Orlando is starting to feel the pressure
- The Lakers arent going to trade for Howard. It made sense when they were suppose to get Paul because Paul and Howard would set Howard up for the future. Howard doesnt want to play with Kobe if they dont have an elite playmaker since Howard’s offense is still mechanical and he needs a PG to make his life easier.
- I get the feeling that alot of the reported teams that would trade for Howard without a guarantee he would resign are bogus. Atl (Johnson & Smith) and GS (Curry or Ellis) wont give away their best players for 20 something home games with a lame duck player.
- NJ called Orlando’s bluff by maintaining cap flexability. Orlando probably thought that we would spend our money on players like Nene since we have to worry about DWill leaving if we werent competitive. It’s been obvious that DWill is all in for Dwight and will sacrifice winning this year to get him here. DWill def wants the 5th year we can offer since he isnt nearly as marketable as Dwight. Owning DWill’s Bird rights has been downplayed significantly. It’s our ace in the hole.
- Fegan might have an axe to grind with Orlando ownership with the way they have handled this situation. When people talk about Dwight losing out on 27 mil it’s like comparing apples to oranges. Of course he will make more on a 5 year contract then a 4 year contract. But does anyone think a 30 year old Howard wont comand a max contract? Yes it’s a risk when you consider injury but the difference between what Dwight can get in FA and what he can get if the team he signs with if they have his bird rights have been overstated. When you consider that he was the 2nd most marketable player, Lebron was 1st, the amount of money he can make from endorcements is significant. Superstars who WIN get paid much more then Superstars who dont. Remeber when TMac was big? TMac lost alot of luster when he was continuously bounced in the 1st round of the playoffs. Dwight has a much better chance of winning big with DWill, Lopez, Brooks, and a lotto pick from this year then with just Dwill and a couple of washed up stars trying to win a ring. Fegan can show him that the big picture is better if he waits until FA.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 10, 2012 10:09 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
all good points
I think the Lakers will be wary of trading Bynum.. No real reason to with the way he is playing.
In my opinion, the Lakers are better off revisiting the Pau Gasol trade with Houston. If they can get Kevin Martin and Scola and Dragic.. that would really improve their roster.
by orangeeater on Jan 10, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Orlando's ownership went all in with a pair of 2's and are praying for a duece on the river.
They misplayed their hand and now face the very real possiblity of getting Shaqqed 2.0
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jan 10, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
only thing in their favor is King and team are poor gamblers
and will overpay for Howard. I don’t think King wants it to go to free agency.
by orangeeater on Jan 10, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
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Thank you so much in advance, guys.
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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
when rj shot it he yelled out
“Get out of there!”
Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...
by D-Will2Nets on Jan 10, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
at the buzzer
Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...
by D-Will2Nets on Jan 10, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
there's a new update, haven't watched TV all day
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I just got the new firmware/software tonight on my machine (I live in Westchester County).
It’s pretty amazing, lets you expand storage through the USB slot, has an expanded program guide with a new “channel guide”, DVR chapters (thumbnails while you rewind or fast forward) among a whole bunch of other things.
Derrick Rose >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deron
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by 3ptChucker on Jan 10, 2012 10:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Ricky Rubio right now is probably better than Deron LOL.
Not serious but Rubio is amazing. Can drive dish and score like Manu but doesn’t have the shot Manu does.
I love Rubio's game, but I wouldn't complain of Deron/Dwight pairing
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I’m with you man, I’ll be ecstatic about Deron/Dwight. But you know I’ll still be right there with you calling for Avery Johnson’s job
Avery must go. He's in over his head. Look closely at the games this season, he's relying on PJ.
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I hear you and I think mostly everyone agrees.
Dirk hated his offense and his defensive prowess as a coach was always pretty overrated.
Avery has NOT impressed anyone with his Nets defense.
I understand the Nets struggling to score over 80 nightly. But a great defensive coach should be able to get NBA scrubs playing solid team D. Avery has NOT shown that. And that inexcusable.
Pretty much, at this point, Avery is only clinging on to his job because:
A) he defers to Deron
B) Prokhorov’s Onexim peeps know nothing about basketball.
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Derrick Rose is SO good.
I want a Howard/Deron pairing BUT.. nobody s close to Rose at PG.. and he is only 23!!
Rose is another AI
He can score, but he’s not good at setting up his teammates. It works for him in Chicago, but put him on the Nets and he will struggle just as much as D-Will and he’ll never win a chip playing the way he does, just like Iverson.
If anything, Rose would be lucky to be the next AI
and he has shown numerous times this season why he was MVP last season. Plus 21 PPG and 8.6 APG on 45% isn’t that bad for a PG.
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i dont understand why should we give marshon to orlando??
If dwight wants to come here.
I know nets organization will regret trading him knowing they could have attain dwight without trading him
This kid has all the tools to be great
And im sick of people calling him just a 25 pick we all know he should have been no later then sixth pick
by Pure baller15 on Jan 10, 2012 10:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Moreover, we're giving up 4 or 5 1st round picks.
With Billy King’s drafting ability, think of the talent we’re giving up with all those 1st rounders.
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You don’t know what we’re giving up. The point is that if Marshon Brooks is what makes or breaks a Dwight trade you have to do it, unless Dwight Howard makes it clear that he will sign with no one else but the Nets, PERIOD.
Then maybe the Nets can squeeze the Magic for a better deal.
Billy King "steals" MarShon @ 25th pick. With this year's draft so stacked and Nets at this point guaranteed a top 4 pick.
Assuming Bynum is off the table (which is a reasonable assumption), Billy King would likely be able ot keep either MarShon or our 2012 1st. Or, make it top 3 protected.
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if we get Dwight
we’ll get more like 10-12 ish, not 3
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by netsareboss on Jan 10, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
ummm, check your math, buddy.
Assuming Orlando trades Dwight just before the March 15 deadline (reasonable assumption), the Nets would have played 44 games by March 15. Based on the team’s current win performance, Nets would be about 10-34…. There are 22 games after trade deadline, so Nets would need to pretty much win EVERY game to sniff .500 for the season.
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10th pick isn't a .500 team tho...
its like a .400 or so, depending on everyone else
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by netsareboss on Jan 10, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Typically .300 win season gets you top 5 pick.
Suppose Nets are 9-35 before trade deadline, and after Dwight (but gutting the team), the Nets manage .590 wins the final 22 games. I think that’s slightly optimistic. That puts the Nets 22-44 for the season. That’s enough pingpong balls for top 5 pick.
DWill oop to D12
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I think 59% is fairly conservative
If we get Howard, our post trade deadline schedule is pretty soft.
okay why would a rookie be the cause of a deal breaker
Again if their so focus on winning now marshon should not cause the trade to not go through
by Pure baller15 on Jan 10, 2012 10:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
thier as in Magic or Nets?
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by netsareboss on Jan 10, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
b/c the Nets' package minus Marshon is still better than anything else that is being offered
Lopez+taking back Orlando’s trash+2012 pick is much better than anything Dallas or LA is offering
Because it means you have an all-star PG and the best C in the NBA locked up
If Dwight doesn’t come to BK, and D-Will leaves for Dallas, the Nets will have destroyed the franchise to keep a rookie who has played in 8 games. You can’t only focus on the best ase scenario, while ignoring the possible worst case scenario. NJ/BK might be the best option in FA, but its still a huge gamble.
Maybe he thought of Dwight as a giant
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by netsareboss on Jan 10, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO
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by calling all toasters on Jan 11, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Still dont think he's better than Brook
He isnt gunna keep this up, and in those two games against the Knicks, very nice double doubles
what? come on...
Bynum has 4 games with 15+ boards this year.. Lopez has the same over his career.
Lopez’s trajectory is a better Brad Miller or BiG Z
Bynum is 2nd Team All- NBA Center
by orangeeater on Jan 10, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Ok so?
Is rebounding everything?
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by netsareboss on Jan 10, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I like my center to rebound.. think it is important
by orangeeater on Jan 10, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
When you have PF that can get you 12 rebounds
and the center around 8, im fine
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by netsareboss on Jan 10, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Every great center has rebounded.
You can have Big Z on your team.. I’ll stick with a 19/13 center who plays D
by orangeeater on Jan 10, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
No, he’s also a better defender and is showing so far this season that he can score more effectively than Brook.
How is that?
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by netsareboss on Jan 10, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
So you're going to go off of 4 games?
How about a whole career of consistency for Brook, he has one bad year of rebounding and all of a sudden he’s overrated. Bynum isnt going to keep playing like this
Brook has been overrated since his second season when everyone said he was the best player on the worst team in the league
Yes, he’s overrated based on where people think he is, a Top 5 center. The Nets right now don’t have a center, period. Of course they are bad without Brook Lopez. But no way is Brook Lopez Top 5.
He is top 5
and he has shown h can rebound, look at his rookie season
by nets14 on Jan 10, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Your post just keep getting better and better buddy
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't it always? LOL
If there is anything I defend on this team, its that 7 foot giant who I feel is our most important player
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Meer i respect alot more now
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by netsareboss on Jan 10, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
who is top 5 then guy
Hi I'm actually not cool at all.
by Hi imreallycool on Jan 10, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Might taken him a while to think of that
and might take him even longer to defend that abysmal list he will make.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Bynum has done in 6 games what Lopez has done in 3 years
Bynum averaged 14/10 in the playoffs last season
by orangeeater on Jan 10, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Lets see Bynum try to do, what Lopez did in 3 years
play all 82 games each season.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hakeem played 82 games just 3 times in his career
by orangeeater on Jan 10, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
The difference is you just named two HOF
Bynum is HOF when it comes to Injuries and Tantrums thrown in games.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
And Lopez is a Hall of Famer because he has perfect attendance (well he used to)
by orangeeater on Jan 10, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
No, we're comparing two young C in this league
both very good, but when people start talking reckless about Bynum being better than Lopez, that’s just crazy. Bynum reaps the benefits of playing on a good Lakers team ,two Championships in recent memory. While Lopez has the task of being #1 on a crappy team. If they were to switch teams 3 seasons prior, there is no doubt Bynum would make the Nets would be even worse. But by all means If you chose, continue dragging out non-relevant players into this to try and make a point, which I’m not seeing.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Shammer i dont think its neccesary to reply to orange anymore.
I think he received the ban hammer
LOL I never understoof
why everyone misspell my name with “Shammer”, I think I should get it legally changed to that.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
LOL Its all good
its funny
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you meer
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by netsareboss on Jan 10, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Oh so is Brooks better than
Iggy? Brooks is avg 15 while AI is avg 14
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by netsareboss on Jan 10, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yes he is actually lol
AI is only viewed as a top player because of his name. He was great…. key word WAS. He isn’t the same player he used to be. He isn’t a star or a game changer any more.
Marshon > Iggy EASILY
what?
Iggy was never a star on the level of Allen Iverson but he does so many things on other parts of the floor that make him a great player. Marshon’s been in the league for 2 weeks, let’s chill with that
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
I never said Iverson
AI i meant Andre Iggy
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by netsareboss on Jan 10, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't say you did
I’m just making the common comparison of Iguodala to Iverson, cause that’s where all these “he should be a star” expectations come from. if Iguodala didn’t have such a big shoes to fill I think people wouldn’t be so hard on him, and would realize how many things he does right on a basketball court to make up for his not being a pure scorer.
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
y'all are messed up
How about Manu, avg 17, MarShon about 15 but he’s been scoring high lately.
Is MarShon better?
How about Ellis? MarShon has a higher rebounding number i believe
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by netsareboss on Jan 10, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
I LOVE Brooks so far. but people need to chill. he scores 15-20 points mostly because we have such a void in our offense for scorers. he hasn’t proven to be anything more than an average defender and passer, and he’s a rookie, so naturally teams haven’t done the full scouting report on him yet.
by sheepareevil on Jan 10, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
oh puh-leeze
Bynum also started out averaging like 24ppg and already that has gone downhill. Just look at how much Amare broke down last season after starting hot, and last season wasn’t nearly as crazy as this one is
Bynum is better than Lopez
But Bynum’s chronic knee problems is what separates them. Lopez is the better overall player because you can count on his 20 PPG EVERY game. Bynum can go down at ANY time. It’s a bad sign that he has to ice up both knees after every game he plays. He will have a very short career sadly. I have nothing against Bynum other than his immature flagrants last post season. He could have seriously hurt someone on the court and just didn’t give a crap about it.
I would take Lopez easily without any debate, not because im a homer, or a Nets fan, but because Bynum is too big of a risk.
I feel like right now Lopez is hurt and Bynum isn't..
but maybe I have them mixed up
by orangeeater on Jan 10, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Bynum is not going to maintain this play
This is a crazy season, some people have inflated stats, others deflated. He also has been fresh with an extra 4 games off. His scoring has already dipped, so there’s no reason to think that his rebounding won’t also dip.
Add that to the fact that he plays next to Kobe, and Pau, and Artest, while Lopez is tripled every time he touched the ball last season, and it all adds up to Bynum being totally overrated
Yeah exactly
Quick tiny recap:
Deron is sucking
Bynum is duh Aw3s0m3.
How is this going to end?
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by netsareboss on Jan 10, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
This is exactly the stance I was saying I hoped Buss would take days ago
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Not Darko?
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god i cant stand matt barnes
no real reason, hes one of those guys i can just look at for 2 seconds and tell i dont like him, same as brett yormark
by William_H_HOLLA on Jan 10, 2012 10:53 PM EST reply actions
If I'm starting an NBA franchise...
I take Lopez over Bynum…
by M I K E on Jan 10, 2012 10:56 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Why would Howard want to come to NJ at this point if Nets have to give up Lopez, Brooks, and their 1st round pick this year (most likely top 4) to get him? That leaves NOTHING worth of anything left on bench. As it is now the Nets are starting 4 bench players with Deron. Thats why they’re losing and they can’t put the ball in the basket. The collective talent level minus Deron is that of a good, not great, college team. Morrow, Gaines, Farmar, any of the Williamses, Okur. NONE of these guys should be starting on an NBA team. Okur is past his date at this point. He’s a decent 7-8th man on a good team, not a starter on the 2nd worst team in NBA.
Ask the Knicks. They gave up almost all of they talent (Chandler, Gallinari, Felton) and look at them now. They’re a mess. They have NO bench, causing Melo and Amare to play WAAAAYYYY too many minutes in a shortened season with multiple back to backs. They aren’t winning well now. Wait till they tire around game 42, they’ll be dead. Amare already missing games.
So as much as I like Dwight let’s be careful what we wish for.
Doesn’t a healthy Lopez, Marshon, Deron and one of the top picks in a projected good draft class sound better to anyone. Remember, the Nets already have given up a bunch of picks. What they have left will (and are allowed to give up as they can’t give up 1st round pick in back to back yrs) undoubtedly get taken in any trade for Dwight.
If only Dwight didn’t care so much about money and was willing to make an extra 20-30 million somehow else and just sign during summer. Sure he’ll prob get traded to a team as a rental end of season ut he can simply say Im ONLY signing with Nets no matter what.
Then I can dream of a team consisting of Lopez, Howard, Deron and Brooks. Forget Miami – no one is beating that team.
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Sure, why not?
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Humphries making news again with his tweet Sunday night.
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every heat or laker or celtics player that gets hot and has a nice streak of good games
gets WAY overhyped
by netsyankees4life on Jan 10, 2012 10:59 PM EST reply actions
so i even said today that the dwightmare is more important to me than my prom LOL
Its becoming my life haha
by netsyankees4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:02 PM EST reply actions
That's just sad
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Girls>Everything
You should know this man lol
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
hey nothings stopping me from having my fun prom night ;) its just i pay more attention to this as of now
by netsyankees4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
go to prom with one girl, leave with another, then go to sleep with another
you’ll be set for life after that
That's a tough task without Alcohol LOL
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
weed to get girls??? nah, thats the cup of tea at the end of the night
definitely the alcohol
^_^ LOL
This man has the real Blueprint
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
i have this gorgous girl and everything its just hard to focus on that over this haha
by netsyankees4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
you gotta get your moiso straight
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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
meh in 5 years noone will care about prom
and I dont wanna sound like lebron, but we could have a few rings by then.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 10, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
hey your the guy i friended on facebook
i remembered your name from this site and i saw you commented on deron williams comments on the wizards game
by netsyankees4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
yeah I know I figured it out myself because you posted something on fb which was similar to a post you made here, was good detective work lol.
by Andrew Flynn on Jan 10, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
haha nice job
and i figured on this me being a teenager is another give away lol
by netsyankees4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
i just said i have this gorgous girl lol
by netsyankees4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
How old is she? LOL
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Of course I'm playing
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder what the average age of the posters on this board is
i’m guessing 21-24
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It's ok
MIKE brings the average back up (not a personal attack)
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25.5
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I'm 21
I thought we were taking a guess of the average age on Netsdaily lol
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
still not sure if half of the posts are guesses...
but whatever
by bronxbombers2 on Jan 11, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
I thought they were once M I K E wrote 23 lol
still don’t know nor do I really care lol
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Regarding the Bynum vs. Lopez argument
i think that most teams would prefer a “classic” defense/rebounding center that lives in the paint. In that sense, he is a better player. Lopez on the other hand has the potential to be a #1 offensive weapon on a team.
It depends on the supporting cast
Having a C that impacts the game on defense is invaluable. On a team with a scorer like Melo or Kobe, I would take Bynum easily. But on a team that needs offense, Lopez could be seen as a better fit.
Lopez was forced into a role he was unfit for
and on one of the worst teams in this league. If he would have started this season off with Williams, he might have been in a Magics uniform by now, even though it breaks my black heart to say that.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm a Knicks fan and he absolutely killed us in the preseason
His offensive game is on another level. That said, his defense and rebounding could definitely improve. I know he had mono but a player that size should grab more rebounds in their sleep lol.
Honestly, he settled a lot last season
It was clear we was out of sync, and that he couldn’t play his game. However, once D-Willz came to this team, Lopez became a man possessed along with Humphries. I had high hopes for this team if they had just signed a solid/good SF.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
offensive wise he was good but i think the rebounding had to do a lil bit with that calcium deposit in his arm. idk
by avilanets85 on Jan 10, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Guy said he didnt really bother because rest of the team didnt
i know it sounds like he’s soft but dude can do both if he playing along side leader
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 10, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Lopez getting hurt was just about the worst thing that could have happened
Signing Shawne Williams wasn’t a smart move though. I knew he was just a product of D’Antoni’s offense. All of his points came on WIDE OPEN corner 3’s, and his defense is just average.
Shumpert looking good
Brooks vs Shumpert i’ll watch those games for sure
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 10, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
I read somewhere here that there good friends
which makes this “Rivalry” that much better.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i think if shumpert works hard enough in a couple of years he might be the next brooks lol
by avilanets85 on Jan 10, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he's problem he's not SG but his not a PG either
he just good all around player that looking for role on that NYK team. i dont want to jump on him but his better fit on another team like Miami. NYK need PG that can dominate Felton or Rondo that can dominate tempo
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 10, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Believe it or not he actually looks like a true PG
I didn’t think he was either before the season starts. But hardly makes any mistakes, and he already has decent court vision. Obviously he isn’t the next Rondo or Nash lol. But I really think he can be a Westbrook type distributor.
I'm not saying he cant be a true PG
It’s just games that i wathched ( Bobcats Celtics Lakers) he was lost a lot. Melo had to take ball most of the time and thats not his game unless it’s 4’th q. All i want to say he got ways to go but i like that his ragit
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 10, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah thats fair
But in all of those games he was playing SG. They only started using him as a PG in the last 2 games because Douglas was playing horribly. Melo likes having the ball in his hands at all times lol. I wish he would get set instead of bringing the ball up the court, because he is unstoppable when he can post up. Pretty cool that the Knicks and Nets got the steals of the draft though. Shump and Brooks would both be top 5 picks in a re-draft imo.
I think thats Shump and Brooks are going to have great battles
I’m hoping the Nets keep him for that reason alone!
Its the most gut wrenching part of this season
And he was always underrated and undervalue, but since he went down, this team has 0 or negative post game or that consistent scorer Lopez has always been.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah it might be worse than D-Will getting injured
You guys can’t possibly replace Lopez’s production with anyone on the roster. Obviously D-Will is critical to your success as well. But a PG especially needs to have good talent around him. A center can have a huge impact no matter who he is playing with.
He did, and its a chain reaction
He goes down, there goes the open 3 point looks, a good scorer and shot blocker, its harder for Humphries to play garbage man, and more pressure is on D-Willz. But ish happens, injuries are part of the game.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Regarding Dwight Howard to Dallas as a Free Agent, here is what Ric Bucher replied to me in his usual direct Emails, that don't appear on Twitter.
Nets fans will be happy with Ric’s remarks. Bucher has always maintained that Howard would be best off coming to the Nets. Now it seems that Howard may be agreeing with Ric.
That’s why NJ offer is more attractive. Lopez is ok in short term, picks provide hope long-term.
Direct message sent by Ric Bucher (RicBucher) to you (jerry25a) on Jan 10, 1:00 PM.
RicBucher
Ric Bucher
Dallas can have as much as $17m in cap space next summer.
Direct message sent by Ric Bucher (RicBucher) to you (jerry25a) on Jan 10, 1:01 PM.
RicBucher
Ric Bucher
i don’t see how Dallas gets both, especially under new CBA.
Direct message sent by Ric Bucher (RicBucher) to you (jerry25a) on Jan 10, 1:11 PM.
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Ric Bucher
Orl needs to get multiple pieces for DH. Hitching wagon to Bynum is too dangerous. If he breaks down and that’s all they got, they’re sunk.
Direct message sent by Ric Bucher (RicBucher) to you (jerry25a) on Jan 10, 12:58 PM.
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These are unaltered quotes from Bucher. Perhaps is going to have a “public” piece on Howard soon, but anyone is welcome to cite these quotes as fact.
by jerry25 on Jan 10, 2012 11:07 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
jerry jerry jerrry!
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nice!
Ok so all we need is a way to make ORL happy. BK do it!
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Andrew Bynums career stats in 6 + years in the NBA are...
10 pts / 7 rebs…including this year.
by M I K E on Jan 10, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Probably better to compare Bynum's third year with Lopez
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I like Hakeem Warrick
Good bench player who can fill it up block shots and provide energy, I wonder if they would take Farmar and a second rounder or such, probably not.
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He's like a Stromile Swift and Sean Williams type of player
I thought this team was going to draft him, but we took Wright instead smh. Kidd would have made him something special.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
The Antoine Wright pick
makes me cringe every time I realize we could have had Granger
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
We could've had Granger? O_o
But we were stacked at the wings back then, I would have thought this team would have tried to draft a big man since Kidd was here, but they continued to draft duds and role players. Warrick would have been one hell of a player for Kidd to have.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
in all honesty if granger came here he would’ve probably sucked. just the nets luck lol
by avilanets85 on Jan 10, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
LOL, he wouldn't get the playing time and freedom
like he has on the Pacers if he was drafted here. Carter and Jefferson was putting in work along with Kidd, and playing long minutes most of the night. This team lacked a Big Man, and when we FINALLY get one, Kidd was gone.
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yeah exactly
besides granger was a nationwide predicted top 10 pick before he showed up to the combine with a sprained and swollen knee
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 11, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Nets are in the drivers seat...
Everybody knows it…
Things can change of course…
But I doubt they D-Will…
it's just hurts to think we going to lose Swag
For now i just dont want to talk about trade at all, just enjoy the moment we have with swag
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 10, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Swag wasn't in the orginal trade proposal...
and i doubt he will be at the end….
MarShon is ours. Unless the Nets are idiots.
MarShon is ours. Unless the Nets are idiots.
that’s not very optemistic because everyone here on D12 or bust mode, Swag is gone top rookie best scorer
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 10, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Lets all not forget Lopez before and when he got injured put up good numbers
15 pts 11rebs 2ast 1stl 5blks
15pts 9rebs 1blk ( game where he got injured)
Top that off with
almost 2 BPG, 50% from the field, and 80%+ from the line
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
guy is an animal. don’t know what orlando is smoking i would jump all over that lopez deal
by avilanets85 on Jan 10, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
Underrated that's all
if he was on a good team, they would be comparing him with some HOF player or something lol. Lopez favorite player is Tim Duncan, games are sort of similar.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Why do you assume they aren't?
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Here's a question for y'all:
Which team is in need of a Brook Lopez type center AND is willing to give away close to All-Star level talent to get him?
I’m thinking about how a 3 way deal could get done with ORL getting someone else…
IDEAS?
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:28 PM EST reply actions
You think MIN would send K Love for some draft picks and potentially get Lopez in return?
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
b/c he has to become a RFA 1st
if Love wanted out, then he would turn down all offers and simply sign for th Qualifying offer from Minny, then become an UFA in 2013.
This system is in place so teams are guaranteed to have at least 5 years with their 1st rounders.
wouldn’t mind having Love, D-will and Dwight
by avilanets85 on Jan 10, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
think about it. Love would be the perfect PF next to Dwight
by avilanets85 on Jan 10, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
and Lebron would be the perfect small forward next to Dwight...
unfortunately we don’t have the assets to go after all these star players. Trading for Dwight will drain our resources
dude lebron is the perfect SF to anybody lol
by avilanets85 on Jan 10, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LBJ can't be traded
if there is one person in this league that is a untouchable, it is him.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
I know. I wasn't seriously considering that as a possibility haha
My point is that it’s easy to say “So and so would be the perfect player to pair with Dwight!” but actually obtaining said player would be next to impossible
Oh LOL
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Love is T-Wolves prized possession
He’s not leaving that team yet.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
if i was Love i would totally demand a trade to Brooklyn.
by avilanets85 on Jan 10, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
and If I was LBJ I would too
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
sigh
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
RFA
And not too sure how true that article is. Its crazy what the NBA is turning into.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Can't remember
but that’s crazy if he does want out.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
IT's kinda a dwill situation for them lol
if they get better he stays
Rubio should change his mind lol
It took about 20 years, but we’ve found Jason Kidd Junior lol
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
we should jump on that in the offseason
by avilanets85 on Jan 10, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
RFA
I wouldn’t mind him.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
our big 3 of Love, D-will and Dwight would be sick it wouldn’t even matter who you used to fill out the roster lol
by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
do you think they would take less money to team up with each other a la heat?
by avilanets85 on Jan 11, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
I doubt it
But anything is possible. Not even the Heats players really took a paycut to team up, they just did it in an amazing way which might never be done again.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Sure
but dreaming is for the lazy, you want something, you go after it LOL. Well us fans can only dream, so you have a good point.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
not happening for at least another year
Love can’t become an UFA unless he signs his QA in 2012 to become unrestricted in 2013. If anyone makes an offer to him this year, Minny will match.
Which team is underachieving and may be looking to blow it up and rebuild?
I can’t think of a perfect candidate
Here's a few
Phoenix — Nash
Wizards — ummmmm idk Lewis, Blatche…
Warriors — Ellis (for sure Ellis, NOT Curry)
Hawks — Josh Smith
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Was gonna do a trade machine thingy
But it says it’s updating until next week. THE NERVE.
So
NJ gets: Dwight, Turkoglu
ORL gets: Brook Lopez, Monta Ellis, PetROFL, fillers, picks
GS gets: 3 first round picks?
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
i had a thread with a trade like this way back and everyone laughed at me lol
by avilanets85 on Jan 10, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
really?
well I wasn’t laughing. I GOTCHOBACK
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure if that works under the cap or not but it seems like a good deal for all parties
We get Dwight. Orlando gets two young all-star caliber players, and GS gets some valuable draft picks
Makes sense to us
but what about GS? I know Monta has some issues and all… I wonder how open they are to trading him.
Well at the very least, if we can come up with 5+ teams in 5 mins, so can Billy King. WE GOOD!
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
???
why
(for sure Ellis, NOT Curry)??
Ellis is killing it in GS right now and there are a lot of question marks surrounding the health of Curry’s ankles
As long as we can retain Deron Williams....
we will be O.K.
Dwight is the dream… but Deron is the reality,,,
No law saying we can’t lose Dwight and still not keep Deron.
Deron is the key …
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Dwight is a follower...
Deron is a leader.
That’s why i’m feeling pretty good right now.
Might change …but who cares.
I still don't see us getting past Miami with Dwight and Deron
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by Keysta101 on Jan 10, 2012 11:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
We would deff need another shooter
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by Keysta101 on Jan 10, 2012 11:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
We can't guard Wade and Lebron
two players that can touch 30+ easily
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly this team's defense blows
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by Keysta101 on Jan 10, 2012 11:53 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Its going to be tough to make a contender, which has been my point for the longest
Howard and Williams will be a start, but dear god look at the holes we have to fill.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
There bench screwed them lol
Wade, LBJ, and Bosh put in work, but if there was anything to be learned, its a 5-5 and team game.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
i dont think you can categorize lebrons performance as
putting in work in regard to games 4/5 i think? he did not show up whatsoever
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by Hi imreallycool on Jan 10, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
LOL, oh so we just blame LBJ
and not the two other players who were also franchise players before? Team game, Dirk didn’t do it himself.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
hey im just saying
if lebron played well, they probably win…but youre right dallas played amazing team ball and whooped on lebron
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by Hi imreallycool on Jan 11, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
and yes
you do blame lebron because he is the “best player in the league” and he calls himself the king and he had that horrible media ploy to announce where he was going, so yea i blame him
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by Hi imreallycool on Jan 11, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
LOL, I can't hate LBJ, he is the best
closest thing to MJ this league will see for a while. LBJ will get his though, I have him retiring with 4 Championships.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
hope so, i do actually like him lolol
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by Hi imreallycool on Jan 11, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Everyone loved that man before his "Decision"
He was King, but no King ever abandons his throne or castle like he did the Cavaliers. He messed up his legacy, but he’s just too good of a player to hate.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
doesn't matter
the team is a lot different
I do.
Joel Anthony CANNOT STOP DWIGHT. So when they send a double team, BAM! Deron goes HAM.
Rhymes.
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
plus i’m pretty sure we’ll get some serviceable vets on this team
by avilanets85 on Jan 10, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
I mean
wouldn’t you want to play with the best PG and best C?!
If you’re a shooter, this is a wet dream!
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
and by shooter
I mean a 3 point shooter such as Anthony Morrow, Stevenson, Shawne, Brooks, Farmar, etc etc
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
I would love to keep Stevenson around
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by Keysta101 on Jan 10, 2012 11:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The inside outside combo of D-Will and D12 would be a lot for MIA
as long as the Nets get solid defenders at the 2 and 3, they can can beat them
We'll Be Fine.
by JerseysFinest. on Jan 10, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Why not?
Miami’s weaknesses are PG and C. Put the best PG and best C in the game against them, then load up defensive stoppers at the 2,3,4 spots, and Miami will have a really hard time.
BK needs to keep his strong stance knowing his leverage.
Don’t pull a knicks move, even Donnie Walsh didnt want to do that
King needs to negotiate with his pimp arm
by avilanets85 on Jan 10, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Walsh didnt want Melo trade Dolan DID...DID IT ALL
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 10, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Melo wasn't hitting Free Agnecy
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 10, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
That extension was priority #1, 2, and 3
He would have stayed with the Nuggets if he wasn’t traded, he also would have signed it with the Knicks if Nuggets told him there was no chance.
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
I meant the Nets, not Knicks above
There were times when Melo said he felt he might have been a Net
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
right
Dolan forced it he won Melo battle NYK 1 Nets 0 but than D Will happened
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 10, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
if is the lakers orlando does wait till the break just to see if bynum is injured for the season by then
by alexcontreras on Jan 10, 2012 11:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It aint just Bynum
i think we all heard GM and Owner plus Kobe they dont want to lose both Bynum and Gasol to make attractive to Magic. They want to win now with Kobe till he can and than build from there
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 10, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
if the magic wont trade unless is both of them then howard will not go to LA period
by alexcontreras on Jan 11, 2012 12:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
well that what they asking for
Honestly i belive that if we had put up B LO in a trade for Melo we would’ve had him ,but Killer B’s knew D Will was on the Market and pulled the trigger on him
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Remember what we gave up for Vince Carter? Haha
If only we could pull off a similar heist to get D12
We would all rush E Rutherford
and get on our knees and praise the good lord, Billy King
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 10, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Why would we be in East Rutherford?
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Bynum is fools gold…and everybdoy knows it.
by M I K E on Jan 10, 2012 11:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Lopez is fools gold - that's my line
DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson
agree with fools gold
but I def can’t agree that everyone knows it
Am I the only one that doesn't want a star studded "Big 3"?
If we had Deron and Dwight I would rather maintain flexibility and surround them with high quality role players than to blow the rest of our cap on a third star.
where you've been we past those days long ago
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Jan 11, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
I think he's saying your point has been brought up many times
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
OT: What jersey should I wear to the game in Utah on saturday?
Home white D-Will jersey or Away red Favors jersey? I’d normally go with D-Will but the idea of sticking out like a sore thumb wearing red is pretty appealing too haha
Tough choice lol
bring bought, wear the team that’s winning after halftime
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
and spelling fail on my part. I meant bring both* not bought
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Favors...
get some use out of the jersey. Or wear favors until half time, try really hard to get a Melo jersey and when you can’t find one switch into the Deron Jersey, then go to the bar and find someone in a Dwight jersey or trade the Deron jersey for a 1st and 2nd round of drinks
by SovietBrooklyn on Jan 11, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lets go rebuild mode....dwill for rubio beasly and wolves first
rubio
brooks
Beasly
PICK
lopez
james, morrow, PICK, petro, shwane williams
Why would the T'Wolves do that?
D-Will will not stay and he doesn’t make them a contender now
by SovietBrooklyn on Jan 11, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Doesn't New Orleans have the T-Wolves 1st pick?
and T-Wolves would never do that, Rubio is one hell of a player right now. Worth the wait
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by Shameer1016 on Jan 11, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
One hell of a package they got for CP3 if they can convince EG to stay
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Warriors beat Heats
Nate Robinson leads the way lol. Talent>Playfulness any day of the week.
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There is a contradiction with this article.
If it is true, then ORL is open to hearing offers at this time.
However, ORL maintains that the door is closed to Howard talks.
The truth is that there is no motivation for ORL to trade DH now.
1. ORL is winning.
2. Around 130 FAs and other traded players become available around March 1 (after the All Star game).
3. ORL has to wait and see how Bynum holds up to the intense schedule and if Lopez will come back to his old or improved form.
So really nothing is new other than it is unlikely DH will be a FA – unless a team trades for him believing he will re-sign on July 1, but doesn’t.
Maybe the deal is already in place
But their waiting for Lopez to come back?
We just don’t know. We don’t know anything till it actually happens.
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– It is difficult to me to answer this question, I never got to such situations. I am not going to waste the time, and I do not want, that other people lost the. You want to work – come to a hall. That’s all. Here, for example, DeShawn Stevenson. He one of best of with whom I worked. He the excellent partner. All in a command him adore. But with DeShawn there is such moment – after 9-10 evenings don’t know, for that from him to wait.
During a season everything is all right, but after – never you know. But I don’t look at this other party. I look at heart of the person: he the sincere good person, he the regular guy, he all fine communicates. Thus with it it is very healthy to be engaged. He is always focused. Works nonstop. It is pleasant to deal with it. And when at him private life begins, and him catch behind it, it absolutely other. It is a maturity question. In NBA many good guys, and are many guys who have problems. DeShawn has come to NBA from school, and here to him at once have given some millions dollars. All is logical.
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Nicolas Batum
Reports say the Trailblazers are looking to sign Batum to an extension. This kid has the goods and the organization will likely want him to eventually take the starting job from Wallace. No sense for the team to invest so much money in one position. Ideally, IMO…the team wants Aldridge, Batum, and Matthews to be the cornerstones of that team — following the OKC model.
Again, this just speculative on my part but the Portland-Orl-NJ trade that was on the table may still be the one being discussed.
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by corky_romano4life on Jan 11, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
Screw you hippie!
It is the same situation with Deron Williams in New Jersey or Dwight Howard in Orlando, save that those two guys are more likely to switch teams.
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