Avery's Motivations: Prokhorov And "I Want to Make Worst Team Best"
by Net Income on Sep 30, 2011 7:22 AM EDT
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Printin an interview published Friday (but conducted earlier), Avery Johnson tells a Russian sports writer that his motivations to win a championship include proving Mikhail Prokhorov was right to buy the Nets and "to win the championship with a team that was the worst when I took it over...to make the worst team best."
In the lengthy interview, Johnson also talks of his relationship with the Nets team owner, calling it "strong" and notes that "he lets me do my job...Prokhorov,is not someone who listens to 25 different people. He knows what he wants."
He also said Prokhorov combines some of the best aspects of successful owners. "He is similar to (Spurs owner) Peter Holt in that he is smooth. He's like Mark Cuban in that he is cocky. And he's like George Steinbrenner in that he is ready to spend money. He's combination of all three."
- Avery Johnson: Prokhorov is like Mark Cuban. He is cocky (Google Translate) - Peter Prokofiev - Sports Tribune
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I like Avery's comparisons of owners
But one thing that stands out as where Prokhorov falls miserably short is his presence around the club.
Every one of those owners Avery listed was/is visible to the fans, media and players. At some point, I think Prokhorov will have to be attending more games.
Maybe in Brooklyn.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
He lives around the globe and was majorly involved in Russian policitics
I give him a bye on access.
When Prokhorov first bought the Nets...
Cuban said it would be important for Prokhorov to be around the club as much as possible.
When the big boss is around employees usually know and don’t screw around like they might tend to do when the boss is not around…You see this in all types of business.
Hopefully whoever is second in command of the Nets will make his presence felt…
there was no way...
that could happen.
Not with a worldwide operation based seven time zones away.
And Cuban doesnt attend every Mavs game either.
While I agree with you in theory
Last year would prove you very wrong.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Didn't they only lose 1 game?
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Avery Johnson wants to take Travis Outlaw from the worst to the best FA signing
or just amnesty.
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
by 3ptChucker on Sep 30, 2011 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
So was the Outlaw signing to make the Nets the worst or to be first?
by DJ HeavyDuty on Sep 30, 2011 10:22 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Avery wanted show the world Nets don't need Lebron to win 24 games
Avery got his hand-picked prized FA Outlaw who was worth 12 wins.
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
Alright.
We get it. You don’t like Avery Johnson, Travis Outlaw or Stephen Graham.
You’re pretty funny; there has to be something else, worthwhile, that’s in your repertoire.
by Dopeness on Sep 30, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
waiting for Avery's next move
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
maybe the Heat should pick up Travis too they could get an extra 12 wins
by RandyOreens on Sep 30, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't laugh..If the Nets waive Travis with the amnesty provision...
the Heat could pick him up for virtually nothing and then watch Mr. 4th quarter help them win a title…
Now that would be a fate worse then death for most Nets fans…
Prokhorov attended 9 games
1. Three games at the beginning of the season – Detroit, Sacramento, Miami (2-1)
2. A game vs. Atlanta on November 23 (3-1)
3. Two games in January vs. Utah and Detroit. This was the trip where he announced Nets were out of the Melo Drama (5-1)
4. A game in San Antonio to welcome Deron Williams to the Nets. He flew in from vacation in British Columbia. (5-2)
5. Two games in London vs. Toronto. Start of five game winning streak. (7-2)
Just as I predicted, Kobe to play in Italy:
This may not be an appropriate topic for NetsDaily, but its BIG news:
http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/2011/09/kobe_bryant_reaches_agreement.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Kobe will now have a Legacy with Italian fans too. Kobe understands that the world doesn’t end at the USA borders.
they are saying the deal is on
the verge of falling apart
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Sep 30, 2011 11:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, I read the ESPN Insider report about the other teams refusing to change schedule. However, ten games in 40 days doesn't seem like much. What kind of league are they running?
Former USC guard Daniel Hackett, a dual citizen who plays for Pesaro in Italy, said he would give Bryant a hostile reception if he faced the former NBA MVP.
“The only way to stop a player that good is with a hard foul and he knows that,” Hackett said. “I’ve got five fouls to commit and they’re going to be the hardest five fouls I’ve ever committed.”
Maybe Daniel "hatchet man" Hackett...
is afraid that other NBA players might migrate to Italy and take his job one day ?
He'll be playing with fire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgkN0-bLrus&feature=related
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Sep 30, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
10 games is no legacy. he is already a legend there anyways
love thy underdog
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Sep 30, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
There will be at lest five posts that say
“Fire Avery” sigh…
by nets14 on Sep 30, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
"Hollah"
Where’s Shawn Carter when you need him?
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
FIRE AVERY
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
by 3ptChucker on Sep 30, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You should know that it's for sale.
Hi Nets Fans!
June 10th, 2010 at 3:48 am by Greg | Posted in Avery Johnson |
So, it looks like Avery has agreed to coach the Nets.
Well, good luck with all that.
If you happen to be a Nets fan who wants to get ahead of the curve, this domain is for sale. If you’re interested just send me an e-mail and let’s talk.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
theres something that irks me whenever they say worst team
like the nets are the worst team in nba history. I understand the time he bought the team they were in bad shape, but its not like the Nets have always been a terrible team.
by JerseysFinest. on Sep 30, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
Historically speaking the NBA Nets have been a very poor team...
In their 35 years in the NBA they have had only 13 seasons where they had a record of .500 or better. They have had 22 seasons with a below .500 record.
hopefully the move is a fresh start
in making the Nets a perennial title contender
by JerseysFinest. on Sep 30, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's what I'm counting on...
New owner with deep pockets, new arena in Brooklyn NY, new superstar in Deron Williams… well two out of three ain’t bad…(LOL)
Seriously speaking, I believe Prokhorov and Brooklyn are more important then even Deron Williams. That is why I don’t believe the hype that if Deron Williams leaves us it will be the end of the Nets franchise world. Short term it might be, but with Prokhorov and Brooklyn we should be able to recover in due time…
How many teams have made it to the conference finals twice in two seasons?
considerig we ran up against the GoaT in his prime, I’d say historically we’re better than a lot of teams… However inconsistent that success may be throughout the years
Nice try Chakroot...
but the Nets have one of the worst records in the NBA historically speaking. If you don’t count the Bobcats and Grizzlies. The Clippers, T-Wolves, Raptors and Nets, in that order, are all at the bottom in a class by themselves….
If it wasn’t for the Jason Kidd era the Nets might of given the Clippers a run for worst NBA team overall in the last 40 years…
You're right, im playing on the wrong side of intellectual dishonesty with that one
but a lot of us haven’t been alive for the last 40 years, let alone been nets fans. In recent history, we’re more “successful” than our biggest rival. We still have the Knicks beat web it comes to most recent playoff win, even if we don’t have the most recent playoff appearance. Even calling their disappearing act a playoff appearence in questionable from my POV
Just to rub it in some more... (I must be in a bad mood today)
The Nets winning percentage while in the NBA is .418…
The Nets winning percentage the last 4 years is .317…
And to really rub it in...
The Nets winning % in the last 10 years (starting in 2001 when they went 52-30) and not including the 12-70 season is barely .500 372-366….504 to be exact…
But we must remember winning is not the most important thing…It’s the amount of times your ready to throw your TV out the window that really counts…
TVOTW rating
the newest in basketball metrics.
by shane gayle on Sep 30, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Wade is 100 % correct and that is what is essentially wrong with the NBA salary structure...
DWade tells Yahoo! Sports that the League’s biggest superstars could earn up to $50 mil per season if there was no salary cap, but believe it or not, he might be short-changing them (and himself): "Nowhere in sports is the superstar more vital than basketball, because the ball’s forever in the star’s hands and a singular talent has the most transformational impact.
The problem with NBA salaries is star players are not paid their true value while middle level players and poor players make way too much money…Of course star players probably make tons of cash with endorsement deals, but still it is not fair that the money allocation is so unbalanced in terms of actual players talent.
No wonder last time the players were lockout in 1998, the star players ended the lockout because they were losing too much of there hard earned money.
Maybe you should consider the fact that Wade is a huge hypocrite for saying this, Mike.
He sold out his building every night in 2009-10. By adding Lebron James to his team in 2010-11, he wasted the earning potential of a super-star who could have been boosting the team that drafted him. Instead that team is set to lose a ton of money, having built new facilities for James, advertising campaigns for James, you name it, they did it for him.
Had Wade simply recruited Chris Bosh, a guy who doesn’t draw tons of fans but plays like an All Star, the Heat would have been very good and would have had the opportunity to build a team that better suited those two players, rather than the retarded mish-mash team they created in South Beach.
And what about the Denver Nuggets? Carmelo Anthony sold that building out for many seasons, and now they have no one with drawing power. The Knicks meanwhile have two super-stars and are salivating at the thought of adding a 3rd.
If Dwight Howard leaves the Magic, their attendance probably drops off precipitously, but at least if he comes to Brooklyn it means that arena will be selling out for the next decade.
What was the point of the Melo trade? The Knicks could have built an amazing team around Amare, in fact, they really only needed a few more pieces but now are forced to rebuild completely around two players.
The super-stars have too much leverage and I think its outrageous that they think they deserve more.
Any team with lebron James is a contender; straight facts
wade and scrubs were relatively non-existent in the post-shaq era
I must need some coffee...
I keep reading the article title as… Avery’s Motivations: Prokhorov And “I Want to Make Worst Team”
by vincecarter4pres on Sep 30, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
OT
But Morrow has a twisted ankle. Not a big deal but news nevertheless.
by djeterfan on Sep 30, 2011 1:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Is Morrow injury prone ?
Didn’t he get injured with the Nets a couple of times last year…
He only played 58 games with the Nets last year.
I guess Marshon might get more playing time if this becomes routine.
looks like he is injury prone
he’s never played in 70 games in any of the 3 seasons of his NBA career.
Well his first season he was a DNP-CD a number of games.
But yeah, he seems a little injury prone.
by vincecarter4pres on Sep 30, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
He has a small frame
what’s bothersome is that it’s been a series of injuries, not one big one. D-Will also missed a lot of games in Utah and NJ, but that was due to his wrist.
I was told the hip flexor that knocked him out was the result of some hip bumps in pre game.
It's so funny that players get injured in pre-game warm-ups and BS
Like Amare’s back. They really should stop all of that
by Anthony Perez on Sep 30, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I sometimes wonder how many players in all sports...
get injured away from the game, doing something stupid, then blame it on basketball related activity…
Plus how many players get injured because they are just basically out of shape ?
They should keep statistics on this kind of stuff…(LOL)
My high school soccer coach used to say
“injuries are a direct effect of being out of shape… Muscle strains, tweaked joints and general fatigue are no longer in your vocabulary”
Non-contact injuries are completely avoidable. I think a lot of guys get hurt lifting weights/ adding mass too. Their bodies are accustomed to moving certain mass with a set limit of flexibility and agility. Shocking that system leads to injuries, IMO
Looks like AJ wants season started on time.
i think next 2 years B King will be under pressure, espacialy after season lockout.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Sep 30, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
Very good point...
I wonder how many coaches and G.M.’s might be in the last year of their contracts or only have two years left to turn things around before they get axed…
Uh oh
NYDNInterNets Stefan Bondy
Very important story for Nets fans is Mikhail Prokhorov’s falling out with the Russian government.
Spoke to Russian journalist today who said it’s a real possibility that Prokhorov loses his businesses in Russia.
Already, there have been pickets outside of Prokhorov’s offices and his associates have been attacked in the government-funded media.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Not to worry...
My sources tell me Prokhorov has already stashed 15 Billion Dollars in gold under the center court area of Barclays…Now we know why he bought the Nets…
i'll help you out
50/50 split sound good
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Sep 30, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The only reason Prokhorov was left off is because he's Russian...
That Forbes list was compromised only of Americans..
any news from the meeting??
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They Finally called up Baby Jesus
Nothing yet from the writers reporting it.
by djeterfan on Sep 30, 2011 4:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hmmmm
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Yankees>Rest of MLB
They Finally called up Baby Jesus
by BrettGardnerLF on Sep 30, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind...
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Reports of labor meeting demise have been greatly exaggerated. The league and union talks rage on.
Long meeting has got to be good news right?
You would think so
but but the hell can a group of men be doing in a room for so long?
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
breaking news
A fight between Gilbert and LeBron occured in the meeting.
jk
That’s a HILARIOUS (but not really funny) response.
Fire Johnson and hire Brown - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking somethin' when he let Brown slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Sep 30, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats one way to get this thign done fast
Get Arenas, Metta World Piece, and Demarcus Cousins to pay a visit to Stern lol
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
They just showed on channel 4 local news
the auditions for the PA announcer position. Some characters were interviewed while waiting on line…similar to some of the American idol laughs.
by D Will to Succeed on Sep 30, 2011 6:20 PM EDT reply actions
Just got put of the audition
Went because why the hell not. Imagine that job!?!?
Anyway They brought a bunch of people into 1 room and had them read:
“Good evening Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to Prudential Center, Home of Nets Basketball presented by Vonage, “Vonage Sounds Good”
Tonight your Nets take on the Boston Celtics."
If you made it through they would give you a wristband and number.
I got neither, though this blond woman in front of me did who had an extremely flat voices. Admittedly my audition blew, but there were a couple of good sounding guys who went ahead and didn’t move on. That woman was the only one.
No emotion, no intonation, nothing. Kind of concerns me about what they’re looking for.
by Anthony Perez on Sep 30, 2011 6:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
There was a lot. Mid of ages/sexes
by Anthony Perez on Sep 30, 2011 7:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was there as well
There was one guy in my group who truly sounded like an announcer over a microphone, only his voice was that good. I didn’t get a wristband either.
D-Will > Carmela
To be fair
They arent looking for Nets fans.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
ok
Adrian Wojnarowski: One participant in labor meeting has told (texted) associates on the outside that there’s “been a spirit of cooperation” in the room today.
by D Will to Succeed on Sep 30, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions
Yo B
Person i chilled with last night told me to tell you that they want the nintendo64 back if im not mistaken lol
by D Will to Succeed on Sep 30, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
ok
Ken Berger: Told labor meeting, past the 4-hour mark now, could go til at least 7 ET. (That’s p.m., lol).
by D Will to Succeed on Sep 30, 2011 6:44 PM EDT reply actions
ok
Alex Kennedy: The NBA’s bargaining session is still going on. As one source close to @TheNBPA texted me, “The longer this lasts, the better.” Twitter
by D Will to Succeed on Sep 30, 2011 6:44 PM EDT reply actions
YES
KBergCBS Ken Berger
Udonis Haslem: “I was very encouraged. … You can see that everybody really wants to make a deal.”
At least the mood seems very positive.
kate told me to tell you that she want's her nintendo64 back from back in the day (or something along those lines)
by D Will to Succeed on Sep 30, 2011 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
cool
was out with her and some other peeps for drinks last night in the city when she mentioned that…..
by D Will to Succeed on Sep 30, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm
Marc Berman: Fisher sez does not feel they are any closer now than when talks ended Wednesday afternoon. Twitter
by D Will to Succeed on Sep 30, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions
hmm
Kate Fagan: Fisher says he feels the concessions the union has made are reasonable and fair. And it’s not about being non-negotiable. Twitter
by D Will to Succeed on Sep 30, 2011 7:21 PM EDT reply actions
Adrian Wojnarowski: Nevertheless, there’s still no concrete information on whether the owners and players have made real progress. Yet, the vibe isn’t bad. Twitter
by D Will to Succeed on Sep 30, 2011 7:28 PM EDT reply actions
meeting again tomorrow at 10am
That’d a good sign as well
by djeterfan on Sep 30, 2011 7:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
This is actually the best news out of any of the tidbits we've been privy to.
This is the one you want to hear, forget all the posturing and rhetoric from post meeting interviews.
by vincecarter4pres on Sep 30, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Lopez is currently training at his home ‘gym’ for the NBA 2k12 Launch Party. He feels his (Video game) rebounding and (video games) zone defense has really improved this year.
Off-Season work out lol
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
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