Out of Shape or Out of Rhythm?
Deron Williams debuted Tuesday for Besiktas and depending whose tweets you read, he was either "very out of shape" (Jonathan Givony of Draft Express) or out of "rhythm" (him). D-Will scored 15 points, handed out nine assists, but shot 3-for-15 from the field as Besiktas beat Dexia Mons of Belgium by 8 in Istanbul.
Givony tweeted, "Not a terribly impressive debut from a very out of shape looking Deron Williams in EuroCup qualifiers." Williams admitted he wasn't up to speed yet. "Won our first game of the season today by 8. Still trying to find my rythm out there Played against my teammate from Illinois Warren Carter."
Besiktas posted 16 minutes of highlights from his last preseason game.
- Besiktas draw first blood in EuroCup Qualifying Round series - Eurobasket
- Boxscore - FIBA Europe
- Beşiktaş Milangaz 78, Dexia Mons Hainut 70 - Besiktas
- TUR/USA - Team USA's D-Will on court with Besiktas - FIBA
- Deron makes winning start at Beşiktaş - Hurriyet Daily News
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He is bigger than most guards
I doubt he is “very” out of shape, but he already remarked about how much he loves the food there, so I would not be surprised to hear he’s gained some weight. Still, when he is back in the US he will know what he needs to do to get back in shape. He is a professional.
I think it's fine.
We've all seen the video, there's really nothing to argue, he's fat.
by vincecarter4pres on Sep 27, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions
that's a good reason why he should stay in Europe
imagine him out of shape at the beginning of the season if there’s one! D Will+Outlow= shame on Nets
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Sep 27, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I've mentioned before how I dont like the weight he plays at.
Much bigger than his listed weight.
by Zartan on Sep 28, 2011 2:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And my god, that looks like a community college "arena" and like three quarters of the seats are empty.
I’m still a little confused why he didn’t sign to a more major team.
I understand the true power houses probably wouldn’t have wanted to disrupt things with him, but there had to be better clubs to play for.
by vincecarter4pres on Sep 27, 2011 5:10 PM EDT reply actions
This is where I am confused, too
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 27, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy $@^%, checkout the play at 8:24 and tell me what's wrong with that picture!
by vincecarter4pres on Sep 27, 2011 5:17 PM EDT reply actions
Thats a pretty awful team
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 27, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The massively obvious foul not called?
I feel the NBA has become soft and ticky tacky, but that was a hard loose ball foul and chances are they would have called something like that back in the 90’s.
by vincecarter4pres on Sep 27, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah that guy got hipchecked out of bounds!
No blood no foul in Europe
by DJ HeavyDuty on Sep 27, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
not overly concerned
At least Dwill is playing and getting into NBA game shape. This is about the time training camp starts anyways so no matter when the REAL season starts
OT
….bill simmons stating outlaw as a reason for the lockout… http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7026680/welcome-amnesty-20-nba
Simmons: Here’s why we’re having a lockout — because teams are so effing stupid that they actually need to waive guys they just signed a year ago. There should be bonus amnesty points for being total morons. The Nets should get to wipe off twice the amount of Outlaw’s contract off their cap, like how disabled people get to park in disabled-person spaces.

by vincecarter4pres on Sep 27, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
most owners are guilty or over spending and now want the money back from the players
I don’t blame the players for goin overseas
by DJ HeavyDuty on Sep 27, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
They just want a system that works.
And guys that get amnestied will not only get the full value of their contracts but a fresh start in another city.
by vincecarter4pres on Sep 27, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Getting paid $5-$25 Million
to bounce, grab, and throw a ball? Some players make more in 1 month than we might in our lifetime.
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
Some optimism after today's meeting
Via realm.com front page and Ken Berger
by dwill8brooklynbound on Sep 27, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions
lulz
he said because Stern came out “smiling”, it means there is optimism.
by JerseysFinest. on Sep 27, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Read Berger's twitter
There are actually a few positive signs
by dwill8brooklynbound on Sep 27, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
like
they meeting again but not talking about BRI and Hard cap, I’m good listening to those comments. Amnesty would help a lot over here, hope they will pass that one.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Sep 27, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
They did talk about BRI and money
Even Woj, notorious pessimist, said it was clear that one side had agreed to move on some of the issues.
well this doesnt change a thing
Last time 19 out 30 teams voted for hard cap which players wont accept anyway, plus players willing to give up only 3% of BRI. As of right now 57 and 54 % don’t make big difference specially if players asking of growth every year.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Sep 27, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I really can't wait for this lockout to end so
we can have a team full of out of shape players.
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
Out of shape?
Out of shape or not, he’s still much better than Devin Harris. AND….I’m out of shape too, but I am better than Stephen Graham! If I am David Stern, I put a “deal” on the table soon and let the players be responsible for screwing the season. Then if DWILL and the rest of the overseas crowd, end up playing there in December, they only have themselves to blame.
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
how it's players foult
i’m not getting something over here? how you can blame Brnd , Outlow, Boozer etc if they’ve been called by GM’s and got an offer. Those contracts get negotiated before so teams take full responsibility of providing job place.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Sep 27, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You understand its the owners who want a different deal right?
The players were extremely well off in the last CBA. The owners locked out the players because they want a new system. It makes no sense whatsoever for Stern to put down a “deal”.
What's up with his leg though?
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 27, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Killer Calfs
He looks like he has a 40 inch vert on that shot lol
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
Killing Calfs
Then running them through an industrial sized food processor with a drum of vanilla bean ice cream and a few gallons of milk to make steak shakes, the breakfast of champions.
by vincecarter4pres on Sep 28, 2011 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha look at the guy trying to block him
D-Will!!!!!!
by AC24 on Sep 27, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
D WILL keep playing and cut on those heavy meals
no excuses if have a large bone, better use some salads.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Sep 27, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO!
The broken English of this post took it from funny to epic.
by vincecarter4pres on Sep 27, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
what a block!
"Dear Mark - You showed the world not only what a great team you have, but also, that you can remain silent for a period of weeks--I don't know which is more shocking!"
DWill Era- 7-18
Jay Z should keep his mouth shut and stick to what he know's...
Being a has been who thinks he’s too cool for school.
This guy shouldn’t have anything to do with basketball decisions what so ever including throwing his agenda driven non-basketball related opinion around in public unless it’s for wooing star players.
- If any of this is true.
by vincecarter4pres on Sep 27, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
He might bring DH12 here
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
Me? Couldn't be
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"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
Cause that article annoyed me if true.
by vincecarter4pres on Sep 27, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
theres no doubt its true
he obviously wants barclays to be the world’s most iconic spot for sports and end., and if the most recognizable celebs make regular appearances, that makes him look good.
by JerseysFinest. on Sep 27, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Im not a Jay Z fan
but he’s an icon and every knows him. It cant hurt to have him doing some marketing and helping establish the team in Brooklyn.
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
and
not showing on wedding don’t mean a thing, plus as time go’s by i start to think Kris will get divorced sooner than later. But that’s just me.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Sep 27, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It does bring the team attention I am sure the Nets would like...
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 27, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Anthony Morrow's 26th Birthday Today
And Dwight said Happy Birthday to “one of the players he wants to play with.”
D-Will!!!!!!
Eh Dwill has always been a bit of a chubster
But he has looked rather fat in all the videos we’ve seen of him overseas
Wild Snorlax appeared
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
by Shameer1016 on Sep 28, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i understand we got cap space and new arena etc
but i would rather wait and pray that players will win in this CBA. Simple fact is,with soft cap Nets can go hard on bidding. Teams like Lakers, Nyk etc been doing it and now it’s Nets turn to go wild. My only worry is, i hope King wont over pay Nene for no reason, i know some peaple over here think he will bring Nets to promise land but i really doubt it.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Sep 27, 2011 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
NI which post do you agree with?
Aidar or itsallnets?
by dwill8brooklynbound on Sep 27, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
agree with what?
Getting Nene would be bad? Or overspending?
by DJ HeavyDuty on Sep 27, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Just found this pic of Deron in Istabul late night looking for Doner Kebab.

by vincecarter4pres on Sep 28, 2011 12:03 AM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Why did I suddenly get
a craving for Smores…?
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
Is Deron is suffering from theTravis Outlaw syndrome?
Nets are going to pay him the max no matter what.
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
i said he was fat from the first picture
i saw of him post surgery.
yeah, he’s a big guard. now he’s fat. he better lose the attitude and some weight and be happy to be a net and be happy to be making tons of money for crying out loud.
imagine something extremely witty here

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