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Magic: Owners Want Rule Permitting Home Teams To Outbid Suitors

The CEO of the Orlando Magic has told the city's mayor that the NBA’s new CBA could include a new rule that would allow the Magic to outbid other suitors for Dwight Howard’s services. While the owners may want such a clause in the CBA, the players are likely to resist anything limiting player movement.

Such a rule, of course, would help the Nets retain Deron Williams as well.

The mayor, Buddy Dyer, provided no details and an Orlando Sentinel writer noted, "the question is how much more money will the Magic be able to offer than, say, the Los Angeles Lakers, New Jersey Nets or Boston Celtics? Would it be $1 million-a-year more or $10 million?

"If it’s $10 million than, yes, that would probably keep Dwight in Orlando," Bianchi added. "If it’s $1 million, that would likely have minimal impact his decision."

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Dwight Howard rule

I can see it happening but I don’t think it’ll matter if he wants to go to a big market such as LA or NY(Brooklyn )

" Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready "

by idrise12 on Aug 22, 2011 7:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

By the way...

the Sentinel should have noted that Mayor Dyer probably just cost the Magic CEO a significant amount of money. NBA execs aren’t supposed to be talking to ANYONE.

by Net Income on Aug 22, 2011 7:42 AM EDT reply actions  

That is because the Orlando Sentinel is terrible.

At least when it comes to sports reporting.

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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 22, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The rule already exists

Under the previous CBA’s rule, hometown teams holding a free agent’s Bird Rights could give them higher % raises and one more year.

David Stern himself admitted that while a franchise tag is not in the picture, they want to give hometown teams the chance to offer their free agents even more incentive to stay.

Chad Ford reported owners REALLY want to increase the advantages a team has to retain its unrestricted free agents.

by Andres B on Aug 22, 2011 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

of course

just reporting what the Sentinel is reporting.

by Net Income on Aug 22, 2011 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

why do owners think more money is the answer?

you wouldnt have to pay dwight 30 million a year if you didnt give duhon 5 mil a year, redick 7, q-rich 4, and been able to convince hedo to take a reasonable salary(the problem with overhyped role players in small markets) so you didnt have to trade gortat

oh yeah and doling out 20 mil a year for rashard lewis. yeah sorry Mr. CEO, if you had any competence in your front office then you wouldnt be in this mess begging for more loopholes to throw more money at players

fact: people want to play with dwight whether in orlando or somewhere else. they just dont want to play with most of his 11 other teammates

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Aug 22, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Bird rights are kind of stupid though

All in all, how much more money can the home team offer? We’re not talking 50 million against 25 million here. We’re talking about a couple of million per year, not really all that much to make a significant impact in their decision to stay or go

by muwu on Aug 22, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

For example

LeBron gave up around 15 million for the chance to play in Miami. Miami and Wade and Bosh was worth 15 million to him. Unless a team can offer something like 20, 25, 30 million more than competing team, there’s no really significant home court advantage if there’s an attractive destination available

by muwu on Aug 22, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

it also depends on the player

15 million isn’t THAT much to a guy who signed a $100 million sneaker deal before his rookie year.

by shane gayle on Aug 22, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now the Magic are going/want to rely on dollars and cents, but no roster change to keep Dwight. Oh boy. Can’t knock them for their effort

by JimmyLips on Aug 22, 2011 7:51 AM EDT reply actions  

hell i seen some people say the same thing about d will

“Where else can he sign with that can offer more money than the nets.”

" if the cap is lower it would be more an advantage to the nets. He would have to opt in to continue making big money."

This is if there is no season. I should really stop saying if.

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by killa kadafi191 on Aug 22, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

there is a significant difference

DWill has not publicly and repeatedly dissed Orlando’s players, management, fans and arena.

Both may have said they need their respective teams to improve on the roster but DWill’s comments have been generally positive about the Nets. Can’t say the same about Howard’s re the Magic.

by Net Income on Aug 22, 2011 9:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Dwight has

dissed players??? I seen Dwight comments about the fans and the level of excitement and didn’t take much out of it. After Dwill first home game against the Suns he said “Still waiting on the sell out.”

Dwight has said he wants to bring a championship to the magic. He wants to stay a Magic and every thing blah blah blah.

As I said before everything is all talk unless you sign an extension.

I don’t believe he will stay with the Magic because he didn’t sign the extension and their options to improve their team is very very very low.

Now I would say the same thing about Dwill if an extension was available and he avoids signing it.

My point was I seen people seem to hope that if the Nets do not improve their roster to Deron liking hopefully money can make up for that.

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Aug 22, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dwight said not everyone on the Magic was on the same page and implied he didn’t like the moves Otis made back in December.

by Andres B on Aug 22, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

He also stated how some players were trying to play like psuedo-all-stars instead of playing within the system. (cough jameer cough hedo)

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Aug 22, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

he made it clear

that not everyone was doing their best. He also hinted he didnt have input on the trades (which runs counter to what was thought back in February).

Deron will have an interesting choice. He CAN opt out in July, but if he does, he gives up $17.7 million in 2012-13. Considering where things are going on the CBA, he may think twice about opting out.

by Net Income on Aug 22, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

there is a difference

but i dont know how it plays.

Howard has an “Early Termination Option”, Williams has a “Player Option”

by Net Income on Aug 22, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q51

# Player Options give the player the right to invoke the option. There can be only one option year.

  1. Player Early Termination Options (ETOs) give the player the right to terminate the contract early. An ETO can’t occur prior to the end of fourth season of the contract (which implies that the contract must be for at least five seasons).

Here’s a summary of the differences between an option and an ETO:

  • Options can occur only when one season remains on the contract, while ETOs can occur when two seasons remain if the contract is for six seasons.
  • Options can be included in any multiyear contract, but ETOs are allowed only with five or six year contracts.
  • Options can be held by the player or the team, but ETOs are always held by the player (i.e., there’s no such thing as a team Early Termination Option).
  • Option years may not have a lower salary than the previous season. ETOs have no such restriction.
  • A contract with a player option can be extended when the option is not exercised. A contract with an ETO may not be extended if the ETO is exercised.
  • When determining the amount of a trade bonus (see question number 85), option years are not counted as part of the remaining value of the contract, but years following an ETO are counted.
What’s the difference between a Player Option and an Early Termination?

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Nothing significant, really.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=975024

by vincecarter4pres on Aug 22, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok,

So at the end of the day Dwight and Deron are in the same situation. We can talk about how both of them have said certain things, but I think we would all be a little naive if we believed everything (or anything for that matter) that came out of a superstars mouth.

Let’s be honest, Deron is no more likely to sign here than Dwight is to sign in Orlando.

by Clayton Balch on Aug 22, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

killa kadafi191 wrote:
After Dwill first home game against the Suns he said "Still waiting on the sell out."

He actually said that? Link?

by vincecarter4pres on Aug 22, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I wouldn't really mind this

When a player stays with a team for their career, I can really respect that. I look at someone with dedication to their fanbase, and team, even if it is not mine and think, “that man is in it for xxxxx no matter what.”

When people change teams everyother year it is hard to get behind the player, and the team as a whole. I understand shuffling people around, but for core all-stars, I always appreciate seeing a little loyalty.

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by OneCGuy on Aug 22, 2011 7:54 AM EDT reply actions  

What I want to see corrected more than anything else is that veterans are permitted to sign for the minimum to play together for a contender for a year or two. Because of the cap, this gives that team a major competitive advantage, because it frees up more money to sign other star players. The fact that you can sign a $10M player for $2M because he wants to win a championship really amounts to cheating in a cap environment, because no one can compete with that. What I’d do is count each player towards the team’s cap based on the HIGHEST offer he’s received as a free agent, REGARDLESS of what he ultimately signs for. Of course, you’d have to ban front-loaded contract offers for it to work.

by Dumpy on Aug 22, 2011 8:06 AM EDT reply actions  

That coud lead

to teams offering bloated contracts to players they know they would never sign with them just to screw other rival teams.

by Andres B on Aug 22, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, you can’t do that, because you never know what will happen, and if you offer a bloated contract, it’s possible that no one else offers him anything at all because of the cap hit and you’ll be stuck with that player.

by Dumpy on Aug 22, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paul Millsap?

This stuff already happens through RFA.

The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
Bring Back Dre.

by gtbassett on Aug 22, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with Millsap's contract?!

Dude is one of a handful of players outside of rookie contract guys and true stars paid like he should be.

by vincecarter4pres on Aug 22, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has lived up to his contract thus far.

But it was Portland offering him WAY more than Utah was looking to spend to retain him. Kevin Pritchard even said after the fact that the offer sheet they tendered Millsap was a toxic contract with the win-win situation of either getting Millsap or hanicapping the lesser financially capable Utah Jazz, a division rival.

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by gtbassett on Aug 22, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

makes sense

Such a rule makes perfect sense given the amount of money teams invest in players before they are stars. Also, the players have to come up with a better line than it would limit players’ movement. How? They could still move and get great money; they would just get more money to stay where fans have grown to love them and owners have invested millions already. But, this will not stop the agreement. There are much bigger issues like equity between big and small markets. There will have to be revenue sharing and/or a harder cap.

by oman8 on Aug 22, 2011 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

right now they are having their cake and eating it too

by forcing sign and trades so they can get the same money and pick their new team. This might force them to actually give up bucks.

JJ for 3!

by Paul G B on Aug 22, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like the owners are greedy and speaking out of both sides of their...

mouths. First they say they are broke and are losing tons of money, then they want this clause which will pave the way for 30 million dollar contracts. What about the hard cap? What about cap reduction? What the owners really want is to have one or two players making 85% of the cap and the rest to make half a millions. I’m against this!

It also give the owners no incentives to improve the team while they lock up one superstar. How about just having contracts last no more than 4 years. Let the players prove their worth.

by nets1 on Aug 22, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Here's an article you won't like

http://beta.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-dwight-howard-or-chris-paul/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=nba-am-dwight-howard-or-chris-paul&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Orlando’s Dwight Howard does not want to leave Orlando.

What Dwight wants is for the Magic to make the changes necessary for him to compete for a championship every season of his career. As of late the Magic have made one bad decision after the next and that’s the only reason there is uncertainty in Dwight’s future.

If the Magic can pull a few rabbits out of their hat when the season opens, keeping Howard is not the stretch some have painted it to be.
As for Deron Williams, there is a truth to the situation in New Jersey that no one wants to admit. Deron Williams is likely gone in 2012.

The only saving grace for the New Jersey Nets is that they may be able to pay Deron a lot more money to stay in Jersey than anyone can pay him to leave and sources close to Deron says that matters a lot.

For the Nets to remove the cloud of doubt, they are going to have to make some splashy moves, but the truth of it is that of the three players leading the 2012 Free Agent class, Deron Williams might be the most obtainable.

Most of this is not New Jersey’s fault. The franchise is headed in a much better direction and Deron has admitted that.

Ownership and management have tried to actively engage him, prior to the lockout, in filling out the roster with players Deron would like to play with, so he is really getting a chance to build his own situation.

The problem is the abrupt and sudden trade from Utah really took the romance out of the game for Deron and then he was thrust into a losing situation in New Jersey which has made him look more at the business side than the basketball side.

The last thing you want a player thinking about coming into free agency is how much of a business this league is, that’s what’s going to hurt New Jersey the most is Deron indifference to the Nets.

The good news for New Jersey is they will have a chance to romance Deron a little. To showcase that new arena in Brooklyn and plaster his face all over the city, but the truth is that if there is not a Franchise provision that allows the team to overpay Deron, he is one of the few players that might take a little less money to be part of the Miami HEAT or to be the new face of the LA Lakers at point guard.

by muwu on Aug 22, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm sorry but what the guy who wrote that is utterly ridiculous
he is one of the few players that might take a little less money to be part of the Miami HEAT or to be the new face of the LA Lakers at point guard.

A little less money?

Those teams have NO cap space at all. There ONLY chance to sign Deron would be the MLE, IF it stills exists under the new CBA. Is that a little freaking less than what the Nets could offer?

Sorry but that guy sounds like someone who has no idea of what he’s talking about.

by Andres B on Aug 22, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The fact that he signed with a 3rd tier Turkish team

to play in front of 3,000 people in homes games makes it pretty clear he does care about the money.

by Andres B on Aug 22, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think that says ANYTHING about money

considering the extenuating circumstances which have led him to sign that contract in the first place

by Chakroot on Aug 22, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No other NBA superstar has signed overseas

let alone with such a mediocre team.

If it wasn’t about the money but all about staying in shape and competing, don’t you think he would have signed with a better team even if it meant getting less money? Top tier teams don’t want to risk spending big amounts of money on a player who could leave by mid season, but I’m sure if he came cheap he could have signed with a better team.

Btw, when asked about what will affect his decision on whether to re-sign or not with us, he didn’t only mention getting the players but also how the new CBA will look like… so he obviously does care about the money and it will affect his decision.

by Andres B on Aug 22, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

from day one

beseiktas (*sp) has been the only name in the game… its quite possible that very few teams are willing to spend a dime on any player who could leave for the NBA at any point during their season…

beseiktas is also known for making these “publicity acquisitions,” which i have to beleive deron is somewhat aware of…

by Chakroot on Aug 22, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, he could've asked for the million a month Kobe wanted

My guess is he wants to keep in shape while trying out this whole ‘international brand’ thing the Nets keep telling him about.

by Frigidevil on Aug 22, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is just plain laughable
If the Magic can pull a few rabbits out of their hat when the season opens, keeping Howard is not the stretch some have painted it to be.
For the Nets to remove the cloud of doubt, they are going to have to make some splashy moves, but the truth of it is that of the three players leading the 2012 Free Agent class, Deron Williams might be the most obtainable.

So what means to get it done does Orlando have that we don’t?

I’m sorry, but it’s obvious that the idiot who wrote that garbage article has an agenda.

by Andres B on Aug 22, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just read on his twitter that he's from Florida

that right there is what I needed to know to understand what he says in the part I just quoted above.

by Andres B on Aug 22, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

This all I needed to know about the guy who wrote that article...

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by M I K E on Aug 22, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

As for Deron Williams, there is a truth to the situation in New Jersey that no one wants to admit. Deron Williams is likely gone in 2012.

The only saving grace for the New Jersey Nets is that they may be able to pay Deron a lot more money to stay in Jersey than anyone can pay him to leave and sources close to Deron says that matters a lot.

And his sources were?

Exactly.

by MrDollarBills on Aug 22, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

His source ?


Steve Kyler hard at work…

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by M I K E on Aug 22, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I thought I had a vivid imagination...
As for Deron Williams, there is a truth to the situation in New Jersey that no one wants to admit. Deron Williams is likely gone in 2012.

The truth is nobody knows anything right now, especially the guy who wrote the above article !

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by M I K E on Aug 22, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know he is not informed when he spells Proky's name
Mickael Prokhorov

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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 22, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

This article is just awful.

And honestly muwu, if you put weight into garbage pieces like that, I don’t even know what to say.

by vincecarter4pres on Aug 22, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

...It will come down to if Otis Smith can get attractive pieces or not.

If it is the latter, I have my arms open, Dwight.

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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 22, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Actions speak louder than words

Dwill is a wildcard. No one knows what will happen. A guy who ventures to Turkey either loves basketball, loves adventure, needs money, or has wanderlust. What allegiance does he have to this team. Make no mistake: If the Nets start 2 of the following three next year, he is gone: Hump, Morrow, Outlaw/James. Unless we upgrade two positions in a major way, he is gone.

by oman8 on Aug 22, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't even know about this idea anyway...

I feel like it’s unfair to give one team a better chance at signing a player than others.

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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 22, 2011 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

If you owned a NBA franchise you might have a different opinion on that...

There is something called “competitive balance” that professional sports leagues must have in order to maintain a legitimate league. NBA players and their agents now have found a way to run the NBA. This can’t be allowed to continue. I don’t know what the solution should be, but I have never seen players in control of a league the way NBA players are trying to control it now. They can make or break franchises right now…

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by M I K E on Aug 22, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

But is allowing home town teams to offer more money a fair way of doing that?

I don’t really think so.

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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 22, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know the solution...

but basketball is very unique when it comes to team sports, because one great player can drastically alter the face of a franchise. For many years franchise players stuck with their teams so the problem was not as pronounced as it is now. Now we have two or three superstars all looking to play together and conspiring to do so. It might be great for four or five franchises but what do the other 25 clubs do ?

The NBA will try to find a solution to this dilemma and I think that’s the fair and smart thing to do.

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by M I K E on Aug 22, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The NBA has always been a league with little balance with only a handful of star studded teams that contended each season.

This is nothing new, seriously.

And all that staying with one franchise lovey dovie nonsense is just that.

There is little loyalty in sports.

The years these franchise players stuck with their teams, it’s cause they were bound by unbreakable contracts and even then, numerous star players forced trades, just most of it was done behind closed doors and there wasn’t a gazillion media outlets that were snooping around and uncovering stories.

by vincecarter4pres on Aug 22, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

M I K E wrote:
There is something called "competitive balance" that professional sports leagues must have in order to maintain a legitimate league. NBA players and their agents now have found a way to run the NBA. This can’t be allowed to continue. I don’t know what the solution should be, but I have never seen players in control of a league the way NBA players are trying to control it now. They can make or break franchises right now…

Honestly, people need to come to grips, this is really nothing new.

The big cities and big media markets have basically always gotten the marque players by hook or by crook and the players have gotten their big cities, big markets, fame and money they desire.

Seriously, people are fooling themselves here, some of the top players in the game period have forced their way to the teams they wanted since the 60’s.

This isn’t new, it’s just a new way the same thing is happening.

by vincecarter4pres on Aug 22, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most top players in the NBA stayed with their teams...

for their whole career or a very big part of their career…

Dr. “J”, Magic, Bird, Jordan, Akeem, Kobe, Ewing, David Robinson, Malone, Barkley, Stockton, Isaiah Thomas, Duncan, Nitkowski, Wade…

Very few superstars forced their way out until now.

Within the last year, LeBron, Bosh, Deron, Howard have all either left their teams or are thinking of leaving. Your talking about 4 of the top players in the NBA all within one year leaving their respective clubs…Throw in Chris Paul, Nene, West and you see a trend developing…I could see if other clubs where offering them more money but these guys just want to play for a certain club along with their pals…

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by M I K E on Aug 22, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like my list better then yours...(LOL)

and I could look up more guys that stayed then you can look up that left.

Wish I could stay and debate but I have to run…

Maybe tomorrow we can discuss this further.

Good night guys…

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by M I K E on Aug 22, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Dwight cared about the money more than anything else

he would have signed the extension ORL offered him prior to the lockout. Melo wanted his extension signed before the lockout and he wanted it BADLY. If Dwight cared that much he would have signed before the lockout.

by Andres B on Aug 22, 2011 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed, it's not all about money

Especially for superstars. However, I think teams should be given a superior advantage to retaining players that isn’t related directly to salary-per-year. Maybe it’s longer guaranteed contracts, I don’t know… but the Nets should be given the best chance to retain Deron just as the Magic should with Howard.

If players wants to leave, they have to be willing to leave something on the table. And a lot of them will, but at least the players are putting something on the line.

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by eLonepb on Aug 22, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

the new CBA could/should resemble NFL contracts...

guaranteed cash over a max time limit (ex. $5 million per year for 4 years) PLUS incentives!!!

won’t count against the salary cap, and in a Bird’s Rights way, teams can offer more incentives to players already on their rosters.

make the all-star game – $2 million
all nba or all defensive team – $1 million

etc, etc…

by Chakroot on Aug 22, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has the NBA ever been incentive based?

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by eLonepb on Aug 22, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

not that i am aware of...

but it would certainly change the landscape of the league… its not just about getting that contract signed, but continuing your productivity to earn the max amount of money…

they may have to institute some type of incentive cap also though… because i can see a lot of players signing $2 mil/year contracts with $10 mill/year in incentives….

by Chakroot on Aug 22, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let it be noted

I’m good with him getting a seat if he signs a contract extension. Minor incentive.

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by eLonepb on Aug 22, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe they could do something like the nfl

and if a player signs with another team that team would have to give the team that lost the player a first round draft pick or two.

by nets1 on Aug 22, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

He didn’t mention the Knicks. HAHAAAA

Dwill/?/Josh Smith/Humphries/Superman

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by i says on Aug 22, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

because players who feel trapped

are real happy and perform at their best!

"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."

by jrtallent on Aug 22, 2011 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think it's "trapped"

So much as, if you want to leave, you are going to give up some security. Right now, they can leave and still get the same money in a sign and trade, no sweat off their backs. Can understand why owners would want to change that.

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by eLonepb on Aug 22, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

say a player

hates the way an organization is run, he tries to orchestrate a trade but his team doesn’t want to lose him so invokes this rule and pays him the money required to keep him. The result would be a highly-paid, unhappy player. Doesn’t make sense for either party.

"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."

by jrtallent on Aug 22, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dwight doesn’t want more money he wants better players but Orlando is handcuffed with Arena and Reddicks terrible contracts. They need a real sg that can play D. They also need a consistent PF RAnderson and Bass aren’t that good. Hedo is past his prime and SVG has become more than annoying. The 3pt shoooting offense fell apart in the Playoffs against ATL and. SVG couldn’t do anything about it. The Nets are in a much better position to be a contender than Orl

by DJ HeavyDuty on Aug 22, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

so...

Owners: We want the right to be able to foolishly overspend to keep guys, around!
Players: Everyone should offer the same money so that we aren’t forced forced to take the highest possible offer!

by shane gayle on Aug 22, 2011 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

HoopsWorld...

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by M I K E on Aug 22, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Soon to be formerly NetsMets4Life (hopefully).

by NetsMets4Life on Aug 22, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Netincome or Netsdaily!

You need to address this article about the 2012 draft:

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/31517/what-a-canceled-season-could-mean-for-the-draft

We have 2 1st rounders and 1 2nd rounder how would this work for us?

by power_njerz on Aug 22, 2011 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Lots of questions here.
What about contraction?
Would there be a contraction draft?
Could teams be in the Rookie draft lottery and Contraction lottery?
Could you imagine a contration draft, a rookie draft, and free agents from 2011 and 2012
Add an amnesty clause and next summer will be pandemonium!

by DJ HeavyDuty on Aug 22, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bird rights should expire after the 2nd contract

Just like the new NFL CBA a team can use their franchise tag only once per player.

by DJ HeavyDuty on Aug 22, 2011 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I think a good compromise would be the years.

Current teams can offer the previous increase in raises, and in addition, they’re allowed 2 or 3 extra years instead of 1.

On one end, current teams can offer around 40 million in extra cash to maximum contracts (to satisfy the owners), and on the other end, players are only giving up years and not cash if they’re really really fed up with a franchise. This limits their losses to an “only if I get injured” scenario (and also if they suddenly stink.. which is GREAT).

by KingofDenial on Aug 23, 2011 6:21 AM EDT reply actions  

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