Arena Bar Controversy Reopens
Machavelle was the first of several bars and clubs near the Barclays Center to open and is now in its third month of operation. Its owners note they are Brooklynites and say their business is not focused on the arena, but that has stopped critics from accusing them of catering to drunken fans at the "urina".
"If there are benefits to be had from being closer to the Barclays Center, we’d want to participate in that, but that’s not the only purpose of the place, to cater to that crowd," said a representative of the bar.
But Jon Crow, who runs a community garden across the street isn't impressed. "You’re going to have a rash of bars like this that want to open up and capitalize on all the crowds they see coming for the games and performances at the ‘urina,’" Mr. Crow said. "They’re going to be urinating all over the neighborhood.”
- Mixed Reactions to New Sports Bar Near Planned Arena - Kyle Thomas McGovern - New York Times
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Good god these guys are obsessed with urine
"I just copped me an all-things, a professional ball team
Tell me I ain't the illest hustler ya'll seen"
It pisses me off...
Toilet humor is so juvenile…
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A little off topic...
but why hasn’t anybody leaked the news coming out of China, essentially locking out NBA players from going over there to play ?
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Around for a week ?
The official ruling supposeably came down this morning…
This is a very important ruling and might make the players come to the bargaining table much sooner…NBA owners must be very happy with this decision made by the CBA .
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/31396796
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Woj "guessed" this would happen along with others...
but no one knew for sure until today. The ruling seems to keep clubs from using “loopholes” to still sign players. Maybe the Chinese have more respect and integrity for their game then other leagues do, including the NBA…
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They were expecting that result, but the question is how will they get around the rule.
I can’t imagine that China doesn’t want to see Kobe playing there, even if only for a couple of months.
I wonder if Emperor Stern put pressure on Chinese league?

Stern putting pressure ?
You haven’t seen nothing yet. The NBA owners have so much money and power throughout the world. Players better watch their steps or hope the courts help them out. Billy Hunter might find himself standing on the unemployment line a year from now.
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Wow...Someone actually reads my comments...(LOL)
I thought nobody would ever pick up on that obvious pun…
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I don't understand
there must have been some kind of traumatizing urine-related incident in Brooklyn that these folks can’t get past.
IT’S NOT LIKE THE ARENA/BARS WON’T HAVE BATHROOMS.
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I think your missing the point...It's not the bathrooms they are worried about...

It’s rowdy fans like jerry25 and Mr.DollarBills that scare the heck out of them !
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nothing angers me more than critics
But Jon Crow, who runs a community garden across the street isn’t impressed. “You’re going to have a rash of bars like this that want to open up and capitalize on all the crowds they see coming for the games and performances at the ‘urina,’” Mr. Crow said. "They’re going to be urinating all over the neighborhood."
These people are stupid, we are sports fans, not animals, “they will urinate all over the neighborhood” OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Lol, Jon Crow should be grateful...
Doesn’t he know that urine is a natural weed killer? Just think of all the money he will save on herbicides
http://www.gardenguides.com/132004-urine-weed-killer.html
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by aunt-B on Aug 18, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
aunt-B
coming through in the clutch.
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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 18, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Jon (Johnny) Crow's...garden? Sounds familiar...
http://www.nursery-rhymes-fun.com/johnnycrowsgarden.html
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
WTF is up with these people???
They are seriously concerned of people pissing around the neighborhood, and saying it is all thanks to Barclays. If someone is pissing around, it’s because they are dolt who can’t control their self.
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By the way jerry
How is Buffy?
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
She is taking 10 mgs. Paxil daily for her panic problem. Lots of dogs would benefit from human medicine, according to her Vet.
I just put it in peanut butter on my finger and open her mouth and slide it in.
She seems to enjoy the attention, and loves peanut butter.
Buffy still panics when there is Thunder (fairly common with dogs I’m told) or even the fear of a storm coming, but she doesn’t shake as much as she used too and gets over it much quicker than before. More stable all around.
This problem began when I had to put on her electric dog collar for a couple of days, after the neighbor complained she was pooping on his property.
I’m not sure how she is doing, regarding that matter, because Buffy is very clever and I can’t always figure out where she is pooping these days. My wife walks her usually.
Older dogs (almost 13) start developing problems.
Your dog Buffy has a panic problem ?
Maybe you shouldn’t read her your posts so often…
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I agree with Buffy
Peanut butter makes the world go round!
The only thing that makes it even better is chocolate, but then again dogs aren’t suppose to eat chocloate.
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
The funny part is that I then have put water on her mouth to wash down the peanut butter that sticks to her mouth.
She refuses to drink the water herself, because of a stubborn streak, but enjoys my attention.
Dogs have a mind of their own – just like Outlaw, who likes being babied too (to keep topic relevant).
Paxil, peanut butter and Outlaw...
sounds relevant to me!
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
Correction: Peenut...
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by M I K E on Aug 18, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's why I'm here aunt-B...To help others out when they need a hand.

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by M I K E on Aug 18, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so... if there were bars there but no arena...
people wouldn’t piss everywhere? What does the arena have to do with people pissing in the streets?
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Arena —> More Bars —> Drunks —> Piss
#blamebarclays
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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 18, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I have never heard of an obsession with urine in my life
until this arena went up.
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Correction: Urena.
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by M I K E on Aug 18, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah..This thread reminds me of my younger days !

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Black Eye Pee's ?
I hear they are playing a free concert in Central Park next month…
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The one in June was canceled due to rain...
I read in the paper today they will be playing September 30th in Central Park…
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you can blame public urination on bar-goers and sports fans all you want...
but how many homeless and/or junkies use the entire city as their own personal urinal?

I hear you Chakroot...
When I have to take a leak while on the subways at least I have the common courtesy to stand between cars before I let it rip…
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it's like that one Daily Show clip
about outlawing smoking in public spaces, such as parks…. because smokers are ruining the city for everyone.
meanwhile, in the background, junkies are stumbling about, falling on people using the benches, and generally ruining the park.
These guys want your pee!

"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
what kind of weird fetishist neighborhood is this arena going in??
this is getting bizarre
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Aug 18, 2011 1:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Brings back memories...

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Oh great, Jon Crow laws
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by GMJigga on Aug 18, 2011 2:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I hope Jon doesn't end up...

"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
Leave him alone already!
You had your say on this, and John Crow had his. Unlike you, he actually lives and works there on a regular basis. Why should someone who is hardly there have a more of a say than he should? Why does it matter if he is against having such bars? If you feel that he is wasting his time, then why give him the time of day if he’s not worth it? How about instead of making attacks at him you guys can do something more productive with your times such as go find a girlfriend, clean out your closets, or even just go update your fantasy sports teams? I don’t see what is wrong with the media asking him how feels, because according to the US Constitution, this is considered freedom of the press, and they can interview whoever they want to. BTW, there are lots of people who get interviewed that say things I don’t like, but you don’t hear me making such attacks on them. When you read or watch the news, does it always have to say what you like? If you don’t like what is on the media, then become the next dictator of Zimbabwe, so you can have them print whatever you like and kill anyone who disagrees, because they will be forced by gunpoint to do so.
by Tal Barzilai on Aug 20, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Leave Britney alooone!!!
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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 22, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
They have a point...
Every time I went to Contiental Airlines Arena or the Prudential Center I would always pee on something before I entered the arena…
Mention Pee or Outlaw and the posts keep coming.
Maybe there needs to be a farewell blog devoted to Graham, who likely will not play another game for the Nets.
Farewell Stevie, what a ride it's been!

by Andres B on Aug 18, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah Stevie...Nets fans want to give you a going a way present...

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by M I K E on Aug 18, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 18, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i get more and more angry whenever i see that...
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These will line the streets around the arena

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"Around the arena"...hmmm
I wonder if they could make it look like…
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
Looks like a European city.
Just how does that contraption work?
It looks like that urinal doesn’t have an inside.
I think that's Seattle
we had a bunch of public toilets like that. It’s weird and creepy and seems like a perfect little rape den. The city ended up selling them all on eBay.
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Take a walk in their shoes
Those who have stated why they are against the bars are those who have been living there for at least a decade. There used to be zonning laws that made sure that heavily residential would not have bars and only commercial and retail areas can have them only. However, thanks to Bloomberg, such zonning laws were repealed and bars can be placed just about anywhere they want no matter where. If the neighborhood was really against bars, then they would have been against Donald O’Finn when he was operating Freddy’s Bar & Backroom there, but the sound decibles were kept in check. Also, it’s not considered prestigous living near a sports facility especially when you have face the fans who either urinate or leave their garbage on your property making you responsible despite the fact that it wasn’t your mess. Try living near MSG, Yankee Stadium, Citifield, Prudential Center when the teams playing there have their season, and then tell me if it’s good living there or not.
because every bar-goer and sports fan, GUARANTEED, will take a piss in public?
especially when you have face the fans who either urinate or leave their garbage on your property making you responsible despite the fact that it wasn’t your mess.
what's "zonning?"
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In the words of comedian and game show host Jeff Foxworthy, “You are probably not smarter than a fifth grader.” Zoning laws, especially in a place like NYC, go all the way back to as early as 1916, though it was said that there were places in Germany and Sweeden that used them even as early as the 19th century. The idea of zoning laws was so that they can address concerns of where some places can be located. In other words, it can create places based by either residential, commercial, industrial, retail, and even agricultural, and use those areas to have what is needed rather than having anything placed just about anywhere with little to no respect for the others. For the most part this is done by municipal governments, but it can be done at all levels such as the FAA doesn’t allow for anything in this country over 2,000 ft. As a matter of fact, it was zoning laws that helped form the process known as ULURP. Tgere are many other types of zonings, but I won’t get into that. Some of them have been amended or repealed by later generations, though some to favor developers. Some have hated zoning laws because they feel that it prevents any new developement. Of course, if you don’t like zoning laws at all, then I suggest you move to Houston, which has none at all, but you can’t complain if you happen to be living in a neighborhood you don’t like, because there are no laws against that.
by Tal Barzilai on Aug 19, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He was addressing the fact that you misspelled "zoning."
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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 19, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to live near those places so...
I could walk to games. But alas, there’s no housing around Citi Field.
There is
Being a person who goes to Mets game, there is housing there. Just go off of Roosevelt Avenue, and you will see it. According to realtors, it has never been considered convienient to live near sports facilities. As a matter of fact, some don’t want to live there just because of the garbage that fans leave by their property alone. Another thing is that if you do live on Roosevelt Avenue after passing over the GCP, you have to deal with the subway constantly going over you. The same goes for living near Yankee Stadium as well, and there is plenty of housing near that as well. In other words, it’s only a good place to live if you can stand what is around there.
by Tal Barzilai on Aug 19, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Most of the community doesn’t have a problem with this bar. Yeah, its brew selection is pitiful for a Brooklyn bar, but its not causing problems. I’m not sure why this blog focused on the excerpt of the ridiculous gardner when there are several others in the story voicing approval. Are you trying to pick fights with the community before the Nets even get here?
Anyways, can’t complain about the bar scene until restaurants like TGI Fridays and Dave and Busters escape the Atlantic Mall.

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