Big Lockout Loser So Far: Rookies
by Net Income on Jul 6, 2011 11:03 AM EDT
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PrintAl Iannazzone and others write Wednesday that the first victims of the NBA lockout are rookies, particularly the undrafted kids who might have gotten a chance in summer league and training camps. MarShon Brooks could also use the time in camp and second round picks who don't have guaranteed deals, like Jordan Williams, aren't getting instruction. At least Bojan Bogdanovic is in Turkey playing with Fenerbache.
In fact, one player the Nets were interested in has already signed overseas, guaranteed money trumping the uncertain promise of an NBA tryout. Ben Hansbrough, Tyler's younger brother and Notre Dame point guard, has signed with Bayern, a German club. In some cases, NBA teams are asking undrafted players not to sign just yet with European teams, to wait and see. It's possible some second rounders could get a chance to play in the D-League, but the D-League rules make it difficult to assign an unsigned pick to his team's affiliate.
- Nets lose if lockout continues very long - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- NBA agent knows dangers of a lockout - Joe Palladino - Waterbury Republican-American
- Winderman: Lockout already hurting plenty - Ira Winderman - NBC Sports
- NBA Lockout: Undrafted Free Agents Going To Europe Before NBA Players Take The Jobs - Scott Schroeder - Ridiculous Upside
- New Jersey fans the losers in NBA lockout - Gregory Hrinya - Examiner
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I hope the players keep training together
They don’t need the PNY center to practice.
Brook-Brooks-Brookyln
LET'S DO THIS!
I'd let Jordan Williams heavily consider signing a 1 year deal with CSKA Moscow
He’s not that likely to see a lot of floor time next year (if there is a season) anyway, and he’s not guaranteed to get an NBA contract with the Nets either, since he’s only a 2nd round pick
Or actually
Marshon Brooks should be the one more amenable to signing an overseas contract, since he’s a first round pick. He’s guaranteed a rookie contract no matter what, injury or not
Can Brooks play overseas ?
Can any NBA player play overseas without breaking the terms of their nba contract ?
I think Williams will see the floor next year if not traded
He’s our only backup 4.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Williams is a bum. IDK why everyone is so excited about him.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jul 6, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do you say he is a bum?
Big man with soft hands, that charles barkley backside, lost weight to compete better, and a little better athletically than he gets credit for.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Sounds like there will be a D-League this year...
The player agent quoted in that Joe Palladino article posted above also likes our Jordan Williams chances in the NBA.
Baptiste:: (Jordan) Williams will get his name on a Nets contract, because 6-10 board crashers with soft hands don’t fall from the sky often. But what happens to the dozens of Saunders-like talents looking for an NBA job?
Al mentions Brook Lopez and Hump being hurt by the lockout.
Al says that Hump will be hurt because teams will be trying to reduce salaries.
However, Hump may be hurt more by the competition from Nene and West, who surprised by becoming UR free agents. That is GOOD News for Nets fans.
Brook might be helped, because by not being able to get in shape, Orlando may not want him – Unless Brook desires playing near Magic Kingdom?
A recent story said that Orlando might take Bynum over Lopez. I would doubt that, considering Bynum’s knees and Lopez’ durability. However, Brook won’t have a chance to prove people wrong.
I smiled when I saw our rookies
and then i read the title…
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
Drafting Bojan...
is looking better and better the longer this lockout lasts…
by M I K E on Jul 6, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This lockout will prove what kind of players we drafted...
It will be interesting to see how active they stay, and how committed they are to practice and putting in the time and effort on their own.
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
Helps that we finally have a leader now
A guy who would round up our guys, and get them to work out. I don’t know if Devin or Brook ever organized an unplanned offseason team workout
NI
Are there any new vids of the rookies working out in SD?
GR8NESS
really wish they was a summer
" Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready "
by idrise12 on Jul 6, 2011 11:37 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
In some cases, NBA teams are asking undrafted players not to sign just yet with European teams, to wait and see.
What the hell???
Um, these kids want money, not to sit around and wait for a bunch of greedy bastards to finish their blood letting. I don’t blame them or any free agent that bolts for overseas.
by MrDollarBills on Jul 6, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
here is the Nets and other rich team's advantage....
They can give the kid (or his agent) a promise of a partial guarantee on a veterans minimum deal whenever lockout’s over.
Has a couple of advantages. It shows a commitment to the player. Under the D-League rules, the affiliate gets the D-League rights to up to three players cut from the parent club. So, the partial guarantee can make up for the difference between D-League ball ($30,000 max) and an overseas contract. Armorn will play Nets ball, increasing the chances of a Nets call up. (Nets would not have special rights to that player, however.)
Interesting
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
I'm getting mixed messages
ZZone says Nets lose if lockout lasts long. Yet I see people posting here they hope the lockout wipes out the whole season.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
If the whole season gets wiped out we could get the 5th or 6th pick in the 2012 Draft
Considered to be the best draft in a long time. I think the Nets could be big winners here..
We could also get Dwight, without giving up anything.
However, we could also lose DWill.
I’d rather take my chances with the season starting ASAP and hope to trade for Dwight later on.
There's completely zero way of knowing how they will determine the draft order in 2012
Everyone that think they know are all guessing. 100%
not how it happened in NHL
ALL teams participated in lottery.
You are assuming the order would be based on 10-11 standings…based on nothing but speculation.
FYI... the NHL draft
was still a lottery weighted by records. Nets would still have very good odds.
Who wants that?
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 6, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
NI We need a tribute post the The Hammer
Armen Gilliam was one of the classiest nets in the last 2 decades.
by tategeorge on Jul 6, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
RIP actually died doing what he loved playing basketball
SLAMonline: SLAMonline.com: Armon Gilliam Dies Playing Basketball http://bit.ly/nOXAT0 #SLAMnewswire #NBA
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
by Atronic on Jul 6, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nene wants to retire in Denver:
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/7/6/2262089/nene-denver-nuggets-nba-free-agency
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
Read the article SBNation got it's source from...
Nene told The Post’s Chris Dempsey in his last official interview that he didn’t feel “appreciated” by Nuggets management. Most people claim $11 mil a year demonstrates appreciation, yet money doesn’t always buy love. Josh Kroenke and Masai Ujiri said on the recent draft night that they had tried to show Nene their strong feelings for him, and thought he wouldn’t take early contract termination.
I saw it first M I K E !!
But I got distracted with a phone call and you were faster on the trigger.
by jerry25 on Jul 6, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
I would of posted it earlier but I was saving a cat stuck up on a tree…
by M I K E on Jul 6, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
As usual M I K E...
You’re out on a limb!
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
The Nets would certainly meet Nene's requirements.
Woody Paige jokes too much, even in his writing. His style is so much different from the Nets beat writers.
Woody concludes that Denver is a better place to raise his new baby.
Well thats true
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 6, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would you do that
When we haven’t seen Marshon play, might turn out to be better than Harden.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
I understand that and I like Harden
But we should first see what we really have with Brooks and James first especially Brooks. I think James will become a talented wing defender who we will need going up against the Lebrons of the word in the future.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
I like that this whole exchange just went down but neither of you brought up the fact that Harden is already an established talent and neither of these guys have proven anything in the NBA. Why would OKC ever do this deal?
Its a hypothetical
Just like most trade ideas I mean were in a lockout everybody knows that, but the question is do you think Marshon Brooks will become better than Harden is right now?
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
What?
OKC would laugh in our face if we offered that.
Harden is a stud, Jamees and Brooks aren’t even close to being able to get such a deal done. Not by any stretch of the imagination… people are overrating Brooks like crazy.
Agree
I would do that trade in a heartbeat.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
We shall see but as you say people might be overrating Brooks
When he hasn’t played a minute in the NBA yet, I think you might be underrating him.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Nets trade two picks in the 20s for Harden
It’s a no brainer, which is why it won’t happen.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
I was searching for MarShons nickname...
and I came across this on of all places the Knicks SBNation blog “Posting + Toasting”…
Marshon S. Brooks (I don’t know what the S. stands for, but I hope it is “Stream” or “Saturated” to keep up with the water theme of his first and last names) is a shooting guard who played for the Providence Friars for four seasons.
I never noticed the watery references (Marsh, Brooks) in his name before. Can he be related to Travis ? I wonder what his middle name is ? Salmon ?
by M I K E on Jul 6, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Swagmire
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jul 6, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Swageford
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 6, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
swagilicious
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jul 6, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Both of them probably have a ceiling of
sixth men type guys. Perhaps weak to average starters, but I don’t see them becoming must start players.
Nick Young aaand… the post-Suns Marion are probably their best case scenarios to me
If that's the ceiling.
Trade them right away if a good package comes along. I hope the ceiling is higher than that
These guys were low 20s picks
You’re lucky to get a starter after 20, I don’t know why people are expecting more than that from them. Let’s not give these guys expectations for lottery level talent, because they still went late for a reason
Nobody could possibly know
Although just assessing skills wise they could both be starters in this league, James could be the lock down defender type that can give you buckets when need be like Sefolosha or Bogans. But I think Brooks is the wild card, if he’s coached the right way he could be a stud doesn’t matter where he was picked if you can play ball you can play ball.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Jordan Williams
is going to wear number 15? damn I’ll always remember that as Vince’s number though…
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