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As Roof Rises at Barclays, King Tells Writers It's NBA's "Best Building"

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Billy King took the Nets' beat writers on a tour of the Barclays Center construction site Wednesday and the talk was mostly about Brooklyn, not just because league rules prohibit talk of players and prospects, but because, well, they were there.

What they saw was considerably different from what King saw when he took Deron Williams on his tour in April (when D-Will called it a "baller's paradise"). The precast concrete seating sections were installed on the north end of the site. The roof is arching above the court.  Even some railings are in place.  Mikhail Prokhorov's supersuite is starting to look like it will on opening night of the 2012-13 season, 15 months from now.

King said he saw the new arena as a big positive for the franchise and Brooklyn, comparing it to Chicago's United Center and Staples Center in L.A. "We have the best owner, and we’re going to have the best building. We’ll have all the tools. If a guy doesn’t want to play here, he doesn’t want to play in the city".

The group just missed a rally by out-of-work Brooklynites who charged that Bruce Ratner hadn't fulfilled a promise to hire more local workers.

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This is going to be a major pulling factor

Barclays Centre and the NYC market = major pulling factor for free agents and all players.

Having easy assists from D-Will just makes the game easier.

Lopez is going to step it up.

Plus cap space and draft picks

= Future is bright for the Nets.

by Yi Of Little Faith on Jul 27, 2011 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Reality check

Do you really think that they can land top players just by building this arena? If you asked me, I would think that this is nothing but a superstition. If a star player was to come to the Nets, it would be more on what they are offered, not where they play, and most of them couldn’t care less, just how much money they are given for it. Just looking at the players they have now, I really doubt that building a new sports facility will just make them better especially the bad ones. In reality, it’s not the new venue that makes the team better, it’s the players themselves that do it. This is sort of like thinking what makes a good fighter or warrior? Is it really the weapon that makes them strong and powerfull, or is it the one who uses it? The only reason why there are those who can win championships is because the team played better, not because of where they play. Overall, if the Nets do play better in Brooklyn, it will only be because of the team, not because of the arena.

by Tal Barzilai on Jul 27, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, so you're telling me a brand spanking new, billion dollar arena in Brooklyn

will not play even a small part in a free agent’s decision of whether to come here? OK…

by dwill8brooklynbound on Jul 27, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

duh?

nobody said the arena gives everybody super talent like space jam…adurrrrrr

love thy underdog

by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jul 27, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still a superstition

It might be true that players may find new sports facilities interesting to look at, but in reality, this is irrelevant to them comming. I never did buy into that video someone here made saying that only going to Brooklyn will land Dwight Howard when I really think it will come down to what he is being offered. I would be happy if the Nets get him, but the chances are very slim, and a new arena doesn’t give them the leverage, the offer sheets will. Also, new sports facilities have nothing to do with attendance either, it’s more on how a good a team is doing. I have stated here countless times that those that are on the top are the teams who have had winning seasons, and when a team is really doing good, nobody cares where they play. How come the Knicks and Pistons were able to have a number of seasons of consecutive sell outs at home games despite playing in arenas that were more than two decades old compared to a lot of them that were built recently? Maybe it’s because of their winning seasons, not their arenas that gave them the fans. Would teams such as the Bulls, Spurs, Lakers, Mavs, Magic, and Celtics still have the winning seasons they just had even if they didn’t get new arenas? My guess is that they would. BTW, the Cavs didn’t move into a new arena when they got Lebron James and neither did the Nuggets when they got Carmelo Anthony. When the Pacers made the 2000 NBA Finals, it wasn’t because of their new arena that came that year, it was because they actually played better that season, so it was only a coincidence. Since baseball is being mentioned here, the Yankees didn’t win the 2009 World Series because of their new stadium, and I doubt they made it solely because of that, though they did win their first ever World Series in 1923 with a new stadium that year, but that two was a coincidence. The same goes for the Phillies, Giants, Cardinals, White Sox, and D’Backs for having recently built stadiums and winning their championships within the last decade. Keep in mind that the Red Sox won two championships recently, and the last time I checked, they have been playing in the same stadium for nearly a century. In conclusion, new sports facilities are nothing more than just a venue for the team, and it’s really the team themselves that make them better, not where they are playing in.

by Tal Barzilai on Jul 27, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too long to read.

But whatever it is.
I DISAGREE!

by Gr8tness on Jul 28, 2011 2:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If anyone read Tal's paragraph please identify yourself.

Otherwise, I will assume that not a single NetsDaily person read it.

by jerry25 on Jul 28, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Try this instead

Rather than try to make a personal attack at me for making such a claim, disprove with facts. I would like to see information on how building new sports facilities for teams becomes a magic bullet for them when there is proof stating otherwise. If some free agents were to come to the Nets, they would come whether move occurs or not. Of course, if you can’t read my paragraph, then there is something wrong with you. Also, it’s your problem if you can’t seem to read it, not mine. Again, I am not a person who puts something that can be found on a bumper sticker. I am still waiting for the evidence that new sports facilities have been proven to be magic bullets for teams and made them better since then.

by Tal Barzilai on Jul 29, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

aslong as we dont end up being the mets.

i mean sure ur in the big city and sure you attract big names in a big market but really are you accomplishing anything?

by Andrew Flynn on Jul 27, 2011 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm?

I am assuming you mean in the past. Now that Omar Minaya is gone, the Mets have one of the best and probably the most stat savvy front office in baseball. GM Sandy Alderson just pulled off a coup for one of our best bats today. If you mean “awfully managed” as in awful owners, then yes. The Wilpons are clueless.

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah management is the biggest difference

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jul 27, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leave the Mets alone

Being the black sheep of NYC baseball, it’s very easy to pick on the Mets. It’s sort of like making fun of a blind man for not being able to see. They already lost Francisco Rodriguez and Carlos Beltran due to financial reasons. I hope that they don’t lose Jose Reyes and David Wright next. I did hear that David Einhorn, who bought the empty stake that Madoff had, can take majority control if the Wilpons leave. Either way, I still stand by the Mets as I do by the Nets whether they have a good or bad season rather than jump ship over to the Knicks and Yankees, who both have very good seasons.

by Tal Barzilai on Jul 27, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

they didn't lose these guys to free agency

they traded them away, because the front office isn’t prepared to spend the amount of money necessary to compete in the MLB, let alone in the New York sports market

by Chakroot on Jul 27, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

One other thing

I am so tired of everyone who keeps on talking about that called strike three that Carlos Beltran didn’t take and cost the Mets a chance to get to the 2006 World Series when facing the Cardinals. This is no special feat, and this has happened numerous times before. He didn’t know what the pitch was going to be, and this can happen to anyone. I can now get back at Phillies in saying how Ryan Howard didn’t take that pitch against the Giants and cost them the 2010 World Series. In reality, when you compare this to how the Yankees failed to sweep the Red Sox in the 2004 ALCS and let them come back and win four straight, that called strike that Beltran took feels less important and humiliating. Let’s not forget that the Yankees even lost a World Series back in 2001 when they gave up a walk-off single to Luis Gonzalez to give the D’Backs the championship. Overall, Beltran is not a terrible player, and I am glad that the Mets were able to have him when needed.

by Tal Barzilai on Jul 29, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Al has put on some weight

Fred is just the same.

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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Jul 27, 2011 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Al is eating good during this lockout for sure.

The Nets Broke My Heart..

by Mikee21 on Jul 27, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the Bondy article:

Now they have a new arena with a practice court, a training facility in East Rutherford and another training facility that the Nets plan to build for the 2013-14 season. Billy King said the team will continue to use the East Rutherford facility for practice in 2012-13.

That’s the first I’ve heard of this…any idea where it’s going? Somewhere else in the Atlantic Yards development?

by PMS 1655 C on Jul 27, 2011 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

The best building… and it doesn’t even have a roof??

by kiemurphy on Jul 27, 2011 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Why isn’t this green!

The Nets Broke My Heart..

by Mikee21 on Jul 27, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before the end of the week, I expect to see the first Weathered Steel Panels to be installed.

It will be the beginning of a long process, with the last panels going in around next March/April, when the outside of the Arena will be essentially complete.
.

It is all visible from the simulation, at 15 seconds (out of 30 seconds) with the Panels (yellow) going up along Atlantic Avenue.
http://www.shopdoes.com/2011/01/20/arena-curtainwall-install-sequence/

by jerry25 on Jul 27, 2011 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Protests at site

If anyone didn’t know, there were protests held at the AY site today. The first one was early in the morning by PPEE, which was former members of BUILD, a group that was originally for it. The second one was held in the afternoon by FUREE, a group that has been question a lot of new developement in downtown Brooklyn and even this one. If anyone is asking about what kind of people those groups are, they happen to be black people who are on the low end of the ladder, and I have seen the members of these groups not that long ago unlike some here who never bother to attend. On a side note, I could have attended either protest myself, but I was too busy for the day to be there, but I wished them the best of luck.

by Tal Barzilai on Jul 27, 2011 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Who’s funding these protests?

Locked out.

by faNETicS on Jul 27, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

"... I was too busy for the day ... "

in other words:
“I have other and better things to do …”

Locked out.

by faNETicS on Jul 27, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why are we protesting?

The Nets Broke My Heart..

by Mikee21 on Jul 27, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If anyone didn’t know, there were protests held at the AY site today.

None of us knew, so is it fair to conclude those protests haven’t been effective?

2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship

Mission accomplished thus far.

by BigTom on Jul 27, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

like too many social issues in this country

the ability to congregate and exercise free speech is more important than the message they were attempting to communicate

by Chakroot on Jul 27, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here you go

Fortunately, Oder had all the info you need to know about this on both of these link, and please read them before saying anything else about it before making unwarranted assumptions.

http://atlanticyardsreport.blogspot.com/2011/07/formerly-vocal-and-distruptive-atlantic.html
http://atlanticyardsreport.blogspot.com/2011/07/another-protest-tomorrow-from-furee.html

by Tal Barzilai on Jul 27, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bleh!

As soon as they start the other projects (buildings), more jobs will be created.
Last I check, Barclays Center is not the only one that’s going to be built.

Locked out.

by faNETicS on Jul 28, 2011 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's really amazing

Seeing the site go up as fast as it is. Great job by the crew. Hope it continues.

by Zartan on Jul 27, 2011 8:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

When are they going to release the logo? We are fiending for that.

2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship

Mission accomplished thus far.

by BigTom on Jul 27, 2011 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't

Red, Grey and Blue. You can change the shades of those colors, but nothing new. No black or god forbid yellow or green.

Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron

by NJ4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

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