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Frank Likely To Join Pistons

Lawrence Frank, who started his Nets tenure with 13 straight wins and ended it with 16 straight losses, is expected to be named coach of the Pistons Friday, following a year as the Celtics defensive assistant.  Frank, a New Jersey native, inherits a team that was often in open revolt against head coach John Kuester.

Meanwhile, the Nets coaching staff is likely to expand in the next few months. Larry Krystkowiak, who left for the college ranks, has yet to be replaced and the team is expected to add two coaches for the Springfield Armor, a head coach and an assistant, who'll be Nets employees.  Avery Johnson has said that despite the lockout he and the staff will start preparing for next season in August.

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hopefully he can take it to another level in his coaching. but not enough to beat us regularly. =)

by DrazPetro on Jul 22, 2011 7:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Poop!

LFrank is certainly taking over a big pile of poop in Detroit. But I expect many of those players from last year will be gone by the time the season starts. LFrank is a good coach and a good guy and I wish him luck, as he will need plenty of it in Detroit.

Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida

by PaulErstein on Jul 22, 2011 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Congrats Lawrence Frank

and good luck, Opie.

Godspeed to him because that roster is a mess and they’ve got a lot of bad salary on the books.

by MrDollarBills on Jul 22, 2011 7:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Good luck coach frank

Just hope his first order wont be to resign prince.

by BkNetsfan on Jul 22, 2011 8:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I always thought he was a good coach.

With one year under Doc Rivers, maybe now he will be a great coach.

Avery Johnson is a bad coach.

JJ for 3!

by Paul G B on Jul 22, 2011 8:01 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Avery Johnson is a mediocre coach

FIRE AVERY!!!

As much as I hate Avery, there are worse coaches out there, ie, Mike Brown.

Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.

NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!

by 3ptChucker on Jul 22, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats absurd

avery is an awful coach. lets just hope our players win despite him. lawrence frank was a good coach in a terrible situation. he put his players in position to succeed. 34 wins in 08-09 or whatever it was, was really a great season considering that roster.

by NJNETS29 on Jul 22, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frank was in a worse situation?

REALLY? Kidd, Carter Jefferson vs. Harris, Lopez, Outlaw, REALLY?

by nets14 on Jul 22, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

when are we talking about? when frank had kidd carter jefferson he won 40+ games every year

when frank had harris, a declining carter, a rookie lopez and no-one else (simmons yi boone anderson dooling and hayes) he won 34. devin harris was an all star when he coached him, right after avery had him riding the bench in dallas

by NJNETS29 on Jul 23, 2011 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Avery

didnt even have carter. All he had was Harris and Lopez

by nets14 on Jul 23, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

harris/farmar, morrow/williams, oulaw/james, favors/murphy/humprhies, and 3rd year lopez = harris, carter/dooling, hayes/simmons, yi/anderson, boone/rookie lopez.

theres really not much of a difference there, harris and lopez both regressed since frank left

by NJNETS29 on Jul 23, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

he he

I think it’s easy to criticize a coach. Both men have their shortcomings but work tirelessly and should be given some respect.

by BrooklynNets on Jul 23, 2011 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

TRADE PROPOSAL!

Lil’ Lawrence straight up for Avery!

by Jron on Jul 22, 2011 8:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Congratulations

I was always a fan of his. He always gave 100%. He had great self-discipline, great prep skills and a will to do his best. Of course, to live in Detroit, as opposed to near Manhattan or even Boston – ugh. And in the winter no less. If there’s a place worse to be in February than East Rutherford, I think he’s found it. I feel for the man and his family.

by mt57 on Jul 22, 2011 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

He live like a king there

He can rebuild on his own.

by Zartan on Jul 22, 2011 8:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Actually Downtown Detroit is turning into the TriBeCa of the midwest

Plus there are some nice suburbs and the Pistons are one of the storied NBA franchises. Great for him. Good luck LFrank. Always been a big fan.

by BrooklynNets on Jul 22, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool.

I never saw that article. I still wouldn’t want to live in an inland northern city in the winter, but I hope the kids in that article can get their city going.

by mt57 on Jul 22, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Except I used to live in Southern Vermont in the winter. You get used to the cold. Of course its 2.5 hours to Boston and 3.5 hours to NYC.

by BrooklynNets on Jul 23, 2011 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I get it

Another land grab.

by Zartan on Jul 22, 2011 5:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is it gentrification

if the previous tenants abandoned the place long ago?

by BrooklynNets on Jul 23, 2011 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel bad for Pistons fans

That’s going to be a tough couple of years. Lots of screaming from the sidelines, lots of “tip your hat to the other team”, and large men laughing at Frank when he’s trying to teach them a game he never played himself.

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

I feel bad for Pistons fans too. Exactly what I thought when I heard the news.

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jul 22, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's gonna get ugly if he still likes to scream and holler.

I wanted him to go elsewhere to succeed The Pistons is a rough spot for him. Minnesota may have been an easier place to live for him and his family.

NETS Jersey Strong Brooklyn Ready

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Jul 22, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

He still screams and hollers

He was even doing it as an assistant with the Celtics.

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

how does that even work?

slingshot malfunction

Brook Lopez is a BOSS!!

by netsareboss on Jul 22, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

it seems like she pulled it so low and held onto the watermelon

to where the opposite force sent it in a loop instead of a straight line and since she held the watermelon it didnt “jump” off the slingshot until the opposite force kicked in

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 23, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well you gotta do what you gotta do

I mean you can’t talk in your normal tone when someone’s a good foot and a half taller than you.

by Frigidevil on Jul 22, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he just kissed arse, he's a studier

He knew every play of every team and has every X and O down pat. That makes him an excellent assistant coach, perhaps one of the best, and he was thrown in the head coaching gig in NJ after Kidd got Scott fired.

But he is no head coach and never will be. He didn’t even make his high school basketball team. The guy has never stood on the hardwood and directed an offense. He’s never banded together with his teammates in a huddle to inspire victory.

He’s just never experienced the game beyond the whiteboard, and that’s why he wasn’t a good head coach for the Nets. Maybe Doc taught him a few things, but there are certain things that you just can’t learn unless you’ve played the game. His players know that and he knows that.

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

1/3 of NFL head coaches never played serious ball.

THat’s irrelevant. Michael Jordan is one of the worst execs in b-ball.

JJ for 3!

by Paul G B on Jul 22, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

NFL is an entirely different beast than the NBA. Completely.

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

why wouldn't the same things you cite as reasons non-players can't coach apply to the gridiron?

You cite all this relate to the players stuff… How is that any different?

JJ for 3!

by Paul G B on Jul 22, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Football IS a total X and O's game

All of those players on the field, and so many reserves, everyone has an exact spot to be in and they run that exact play. So if the play is a run up the middle for Bradshaw, that’s what Eli is going to do. That’s what the offensive lineup are going to move for, and that’s what the receivers are going to do.

Frank would probably make for a pretty great NFL head coach.

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

That said

I’d like to know who these amazing NFL head coaches are who didn’t even make their high school football team.

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

NFl, is also a more complicated game

I dont think because he hasnt played at a high level he cant be a great coach

by nwkiddnj on Jul 22, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

???

Popovich? Thibodeau? The Van Gundys? Flip Saunders? Alvin Gentry, Dwayne Casey, Frank Vogel None of them ever played in the NBA.

by mt57 on Jul 22, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who said NBA?

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does it really matter?

If your a NBA and your coach played in Highschool are you going to respect him more?

by nwkiddnj on Jul 22, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it respect?

Or was my original point being someone who understand the game played on the hardwood because they actually played on the floor?

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because of course

playing on the hardwood of a high school gym translates well to understanding what it’s like for NBA players.

by Netted on Jul 22, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you ever played organized basketball?

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes I have

so has a million other people… doesn’t mean I’m ready to coach a the highest level. I don’t think having played on a crappy high school team would provide someone with great insight.

It’s one piece of the puzzle. You can always find something missing on someone’s resume to point out. Point is he did it. He coached at the highest level in professional basketball. Obviously it didn’t matter to the professionals that hired him (twice now) and the guys that played for him.

If you don’t like the guy as a head coach that’s fine. I just don’t think that one thing is the end all be all of why he shouldn’ t be a coach.

by Netted on Jul 22, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you have NEVER played the game

Then you have NO idea what it’s like to be on the court. And that alone gives you a ton of perspective when you are a coach.

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

One time he was explaining the game in an interview

And said the players have to not make mistakes when tired.
Play through it he used to say??.

That’s one example of him not having played the game and how it hurt his decision making…
If you play someone for a full quarter they’re tired and will likely make more mistakes. Especially when the other team puts fresh bodies in.

NETS Jersey Strong Brooklyn Ready

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Jul 22, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

eLonepb is overstaing this point

Does it sometimes have an effect on Frank’s coaching ability? Yes, you can definitely tell it does. Can this problem be overcome by some assistants with strong player relations skills? Sure. If your top assistant can be an X’s and O’s guy, then he can also be a player guy. However, Frank does need to work on being more concise with his motivational speeches and post-game analysis.

by BrooklynNets on Jul 23, 2011 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's a young coach plenty of time to work out the kinks

When he was here he didn’t have strong assistants always except Brian Hill.
Frank came off as a control freak at times but overall I think he was humble.

Him hiring assistants with coaching experience would be the way to go problem is who’s he going to select…
I can understand him feeling threatened by someone with playing experience but w/o that there could be another mutiny.

NETS Jersey Strong Brooklyn Ready

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Jul 23, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

Bill Walsh, Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick, Joe Gibbs, Vince Lombardi, Rex Ryan, I mean it just goes on.

by mt57 on Jul 22, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not exactly at all

Did they play in college? High school at least?

Frank didn’t even play H.S. basketball.

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

dont agree with that, playing is not a requirement

He has enough experience to negate that , what he does lack is nerves he gives in to wrong instincts when the game is on the line, a winner should win when it matters he comes up empty in those moments

But good luck to him, detroit got the right guy for the job

by SunilP on Jul 22, 2011 8:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rumor is he was a rat in the Bobby Knight video scandal
He may have a brain for basketball and is very prepared but I wouldn’t say he got the most out of his players.
The streak he had to start his career was all JKidd
The Streak that ended his Nets career wasn’t totally his fault but deserves some of the blame

by DJ HeavyDuty on Jul 22, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really

That winning streak had nothing to do with Frank.

That was just a bunch of babies happy they got what they wanted after having a 5 minute tantrum.

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by SIC One on Jul 22, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah im sure Frank said

“ok boy just go out there and have fun”

by nwkiddnj on Jul 22, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's Avery's plan for Deron...

Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.

NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!

by 3ptChucker on Jul 22, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly, rec'd

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course he didnt say that,

The Players told him that.

“We got this Frank. Just have some fun. We didnt want Scott anymore because he expected too much from us. You are the player coach we want. Just act like you are coaching.”

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by SIC One on Jul 22, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

pretty obvious that Frank was Kidd’s pet, and when times got rough Kidd left his pet to sink with the ship.

by MrDollarBills on Jul 22, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I dont care how great Kidd was

No team goes on a 13 Win Streak with out everything working together

by nwkiddnj on Jul 22, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

What are you talking about

They always were working together.

They worked together on the court before Frank was coach. Remember they went to 2 Finals Back to Back.

Then they worked together to get Scott fired.

Really!!!!!!

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by SIC One on Jul 22, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Frank could be a great coach

He has most the tools, just the one important one is missing(leadership).

by Zartan on Jul 22, 2011 4:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah Frank wasn't my favorite coach

but he didn’t get to where he was by kissing butt. No one does in the NBA to get to the head coaching level.

by SamsHops on Jul 22, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

God luck to Lil Frank

He’s a good teacher but has yet to show leadership. Hope things work out for him and that he lose every game against us.

by Zartan on Jul 22, 2011 8:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Good luck Coach Frank...

Life is about growing and learning as an individual both personally and professionally. Hopefully he applies those lessons to his new job as the Pistons head coach.

"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"

by aunt-B on Jul 22, 2011 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Congrats Coach!

Well deserved, the man is one of the hardest working, if not the hardest working coach in the NBA….

-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.

by NetLogic on Jul 22, 2011 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

LOL!!!

Frank couldnt win games with Kidd, Carter and RJ.

Who is on that Detroit again?

Good Luck. It only helps us next year. Those should be easy wins.

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by SIC One on Jul 22, 2011 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

???

His record was over .500 when he had Kidd Carter and RJ together.

by mt57 on Jul 22, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frank

his main problem, aside from the fact that he couldn’t motivate those guys(not that grown men making millions should have a reason to play hard, which is another reason as to why they’ve been locked out of work), if that his in game adjustments were terrible and his offensive schemes were putrid.

I think he also made things way too complex. Simplification is the best way to teach imo, break down everything to the basics and then build on that. Seems like half the time the players were lost, especially on defense, but that also is probably because the roster was horrible after the 03-04 season.

by MrDollarBills on Jul 22, 2011 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

The guy was over his head.

How big was the play book?

The guy had no system that is why every summer it changed.

Frank, nice guy, but bad coach.

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by SIC One on Jul 22, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

The guy had no system that is why every summer it changed.

you clearly just made that up. and its been reported that he was one of the best in the nba at adjusting his schemes to fit his players

by NJNETS29 on Jul 22, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Nets were paying Frank big $$$...

He had to make believe he was earning it, hence all the jumping around and yelling…

by M I K E on Jul 22, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

3rd quarter meltdowns: loved em

go into the half riding high on some 16-5 run with a 12 point lead

by the time the third quarter is half over the nets are down by 10 points

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 22, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

He is as good as anyone regarding in-game adjustments. His talent pool above 6.6" sucked.

March 18, 2006, New York Times:

Frank predicted the play that Lakers Coach Phil Jackson would call on the final possession, and that allowed the Nets to defend it nearly to perfection.

‘’They made a great read defensively as far as Lawrence Frank,’’ [Kobe] Bryant said. ‘’He sent out all smalls, so they were able to switch everything, and that kind of took the play away from us.’’

by mt57 on Jul 22, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

And there's this

Nov 21 2008
Bosh said. "Lawrence Frank drew up a fantastic play and he left it up to his best player and he capitalized.

Referring to the inbounds alley oop to VC to beat the Raptors in OT

by mt57 on Jul 22, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yup, X's and O's

Frank is one of the best at that, I don’t think anyone would ever debate his ability to call a play out of a timeout.

But in game adjustments, horrible. Ability to motivate a team, nonexistant. To be taken seriously as a team leader, a joke.

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

In other words, good assistant coach, bad head coach

"The trade that usually happens is the one you never hear about" - Net Income

by imdkidd on Jul 22, 2011 2:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Frank needs to be more decisive

and let his team develop a feel for whatever he wants to run. his main problem was he would change his mind every 5 minutes and the team never became adept at anything. i think he is much better at Xs & Os than AJ. AJ was a big disappointment, especially early, but he should learn from mistakes & improve.

by drmagoo on Jul 22, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Nets staff getting a Barclays Center tour today.

http://otrbasketball.com/forums
www.youtube.com/TheBronxBrooklyn
Yankees-Nets-Broncos

by OTRWaldo on Jul 22, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

any more pics?

-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.

by NetLogic on Jul 22, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

They say it feels like 120 degrees at the site.

Too bad they couldn’t finish some of the roof ahead of the hot weather.

by jerry25 on Jul 22, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they could throw some canvas over the completed roof lattice.
Lowes/Home Depot sell canvass in the 20 × 30 foot size.

by jerry25 on Jul 22, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Were you sitting at the table with them>?

-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.

by NetLogic on Jul 22, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

nets twitter

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 22, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, post more please

^ That’s my rep!

-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.

by NetLogic on Jul 22, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

HUGE , HUGE MISTAKE.....

For Detroit…….Frank Happens…..

by NetFan48 on Jul 22, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Okk guyz! Follow me to the NBA CHAMPIONSHIP!

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by eLonepb on Jul 22, 2011 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow...

I could be Lawrence’s Franks step-son one day !

I need time to think this one over guys…I will be logging off shortly.

by M I K E on Jul 22, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That Detroit team is hurting.

I think first and foremost, they need to get young. I know with guys like Rip Hamilton bringing in over 12 million dollars a year at 33 years old, and sub par players like Charlie VIllanueva and Ben Gordon making nearly as much as Rip, they aren’t exactly in a position to make too many moves.

However, players like Brandon Knight, Kyle Singler, Austin Daye and Greg Monroe should give them a nice core to work with in the future. Especially Brandon Knight. I would like to even see him starting with Rodney Stuckey coming off the bench, but if I had to guess Stuckey is starting. At least Rip Hamilton only has one year left on his big contract, and fits in at SG with that young core.

I would like to see Frank convince Dumars to bring in Detroit guy, CDR. Frank still seems to keep in contact with him and even mentors him on twitter. I would like to see him get things together.

by Coach Joe on Jul 22, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

"Mentors him on twitter" ?

Call me old school but that sounds weird…Why doesn’t he just talk to him over the phone ?

by M I K E on Jul 22, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

agree with Coach Joe

Still, that roster is a lot better than he had his last year in NJ. Knight and Monroe are both legit quality starters in the NBA.

by mt57 on Jul 22, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's Go! Let's Go! Let's Go!

I hope the Pistons are ready to hear L-Frank scream that every time they are bringing the ball up the court…

by A.S. on Jul 22, 2011 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

LoL!!!!!

Rec’d

Running around like a crazy person doesnt make you a good coach. Arguably the greatest coach in history, hardly gets up and whistles instead of talking.

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by SIC One on Jul 22, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

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by SIC One on Jul 22, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least when we play them

He will finally give the Nets credit.

by sour grapes on Jul 22, 2011 12:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Frank is a fine coach..

As is Avery. Lawrence did what he could with what he had…with VC, Kidd and RJ he had a 2nd round and out team…and thats exactly what seemed to happen while he was here.

After the Nets blew it up he had less talent than any team in the NBA…and the Nets preceded to play horribly.

Unfortunatly for him, he is joining a team currently devoid of talent with only one marginal piece (Greg Monroe) to build on and a crummy cap situation. So unless they hit the lottery and land a mega star within two years, he will unfairly get blamed and be fired yet again just like he was here.

by orecchio14 on Jul 22, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

why take the Pistons job at all...

Frank had a good seat in Boston. He should have stayed and waited for a better opportunity.

Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.

NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!

by 3ptChucker on Jul 22, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree...

Virtually impossible situation for him in Detroit..

by orecchio14 on Jul 22, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a young coach with a reasonably competent resume

It’s not like he’s 60yr old veteran coach seeking a last run.

2yr stint in Detroit compiling 24 win/season records is going in the wrong direction.

Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.

NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!

by 3ptChucker on Jul 22, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

not a bad lineup

Gordon/ Knight
Rip
Daye
Monroe
Charlie V

by DJ HeavyDuty on Jul 22, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked Josh Boone.

If he would have just shot free throws underhand he would still be in the league right now.

by Coach Joe on Jul 22, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Boone also clashed with the team’s general manager, who told him “You don’t drink beer? You no man!” at one of the team’s early post-game dinners. "I came back and had like 20 and 10 in the next game, and he said "OK, you a man.’ "

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jul 22, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great story by Nets hater Chris Sheridan.

He seems to understand Chinese culture better than other writers.

Dwight will bring his special talent to China (farting).

by jerry25 on Jul 22, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, take a look at the lakers

in 32 of the past 35 seasons, they’ve been above .500

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 22, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

Why are we Nets fans again…?

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 22, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

16 straight losses...my goodness.

I still can’t believe that season happened.

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 22, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

at least its over now

thats whats important

"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal

by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jul 22, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

There were 2 or 3 games the Nets should have won
That Miami game was a killer

by DJ HeavyDuty on Jul 22, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

the minnesota game was the omen

damien wilkins basically in a mid-air backflip dropping that fadeaway

yeah and dwyane wades banked three

but many of those games were lost in the first quarter and the nets played catch-up the entire game from a 5-10 point deficit

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 23, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

FIRE FRANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

Hollah!

by ShawnCarter on Jul 22, 2011 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

FIRE AVERY

Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.

NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!

by 3ptChucker on Jul 22, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm still waiting for Frank to prove he can coach

I still remember the footage of Frank “teaching” Kristic how to box out. The top of his head reaches Nenad’s nads & he was teaching him to box out. Right then it hit me how bad that season was gonna be. Now I’m not saying you need to be tall to teach someone how to box out, but you do need to have actually boxed someone out before to teach someone how to box out. Get an asst. coach in there to teach him please. That’s what a good coach does.

And I’m tired of hearing about his accomplishments with NJ. The Nets were fresh off representing the East in the Finals for the last 2 seasons when he got the job. Why is he still getting credit for the start & making the playoffs with a championship contending team? Did Phil Jackson get credit for making the playoffs year after year? No because he was SUPPOSED to be in the playoffs with those rosters! If Frank didn’t make the playoffs with those NJ teams he should’ve been demoted back down to towel boy…at Indiana University.

by eopanther8 on Jul 22, 2011 2:33 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Everybody keeps busting on the rebounding thing

So it would’ve been better for him not to have told Nenad to grow a pair and learn to swing his elbows to secure the ball? Just keep letting him be a big 7’ wuss? People enjoyed watching him get the rebound and then getting it stolen? I vividly remember that happening with him.

Sometimes in life when you are put in charge of a situation, and you need to lead people, you need to step up and do things yourself if you want them done right. Regardless of how it looks.

I rather have a guy taking ownership of a his situation and going out there trying to fix things then sitting on his butt taking his paycheck and complaining about his players to the media. That’s why the players liked Frank… he communicated with them.

People should be more ashamed of Nenad for needing to be reminded of something he wasn’t doing.

by Netted on Jul 22, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once again

It would have been better for him to get a guy that knows how to rebound to teach a guy how to rebound. I don’t get what’s so hard to understand there. And you wonder why people keep busting on the rebounding thing? You had a problem with Kristic’s rebounding & still see no issue when the guy teaching him couldn’t get a rebound in a Hoop It Up Game? One of the keys of being a leader is assigning the right guys in the right areas. Frank should know he is NOT the guy to teach rebounding no matter how much of a “Rudy” attitude he has!

by eopanther8 on Jul 22, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's ridiculous

With Frank, the Nets consistently had one of the best defensive rebounding teams without having a singular dominant rebounder. Boxing out was never an issue for the Nets, largely because the schemes Frank employed (and because of Jason Collins being awesome).

Frank knew how to rebound.

by MyNetsForLife on Jul 23, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

What an absolutely lame criticism

Of all the things to nitpick about. So he got on the court and tried to demonstrate rebounding himself. That makes him a bad coach? Thank god Nets fans don’t run this franchise.

by BrooklynNets on Jul 23, 2011 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't get confused by mention of that one clip I saw

He had a championship caliber team & only took them backwards! What else is there to say? THE END

by eopanther8 on Jul 25, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sundiata Gaines is playing again (in NY Streetball).

Stefan Bondy found this ESPN story:

Video link:
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6792689

The seven players representing Ooh-Way included: Dwight “Top Shelf” Hardy, Corey “The Priceless One” Fisher, Darren “DP” Phillip, Justin “Megatron” Burrell, Brian “Hitman” Laing, Corey “Homicide” Williams and Sundiata “Yatta”
Gaines.

by jerry25 on Jul 22, 2011 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Kobe weighing offer from Besiktas.

This may be the most important news for ending the lockout sooner than expected:

According to Lynn Zinser of the New York Times, Ataman has indicated Besiktas has made an offer to Bryant, and is awaiting a response from his agent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/sports/basketball/turkish-club-makes-offer-to-kobe-bryant.html?_r=2

by jerry25 on Jul 22, 2011 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

DWill will have to find another NBA teammate in Turkey.
Zaza Pachulia
There was lot of talking me going to play for Besiktas during lockout.We couldn’t agree on the therms and I’m not going to play for them.
3 hours ago via Echofon

by jerry25 on Jul 22, 2011 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

It is amazing how much criticism is lobbed at Lawrence Frank because he's a white guy who didn't play

by people who wanted us to bring back Byron ‘First to Worst Scott’ and were excited by Avery WTF? Johnson.

JJ for 3!

by Paul G B on Jul 22, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow because he's white?

Because he didn’t play…ok understandable maybe. But because he’s white? Really?

by eopanther8 on Jul 22, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Think back to the search for our new coach a year ago.

There was more than 1 person who explicitly said we needed a black former player to attract players and keep players happy.

JJ for 3!

by Paul G B on Jul 22, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only David Stern was a black former player

Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.

NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!

by 3ptChucker on Jul 23, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

We should make a trade with Detroit immediately.....................

For their “2012 and 2013” …1st round picks (Not lottery Protected) because with frank as their head coach they sure are going to stink……..

by NetFan48 on Jul 22, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

One thing I've never understood...

Frank has never had trouble with his players not respecting him. To quote:

“Very passionate about the game,” said VC. “He wants to win. And he tries to bring out the best in his players. He’s great. He pushes you. He listens.” "

http://www.netsdaily.com/2010/5/10/1465668/bulls-like-franks-playoff

by MyNetsForLife on Jul 23, 2011 12:21 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Fans criticized Scott

Fans criticized Frank.

Fans criticize Avery.

BRING BACK CAL!!!

by BrooklynNets on Jul 23, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

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