D-Will Done Deal? Not Yet
by Net Income on Jul 21, 2011 11:35 PM EDT
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PrintDeron Williams has tweeted that it's "official", even posting his signature on a contract with Besiktas of Istanbul. Not so fast, reports Sean Deveney of Sporting News.
Until FIBA, basketball's governing body, declares the contract legal, Deveney writes, it's not binding and he's not bound for Besiktas.
"Everybody is waiting to see what happens with Williams," one agent tells Deveney. "If FIBA says it’s not a legal contract, everybody’s going to have to go back to the drawing board." The key issue is the "out" clause, which permits Williams to return to the NBA immediately after the lockout is over. FIBA could determine that such a clause is illegal, on the grounds that it detracts from the stability of the Turkish league, he writes.
There's no timetable as to when FIBA will issue a ruling, although a federation delegation visited the NBA offices this week. The league has been silent on the issue.
- NBA players waiting for FIBA ruling on Deron Williams' contract before signing overseas deals - Sean Deveney - Sporting News
- Deron’s Turkey move pends FIBA approval - Hurriyet Daily News
- The National Basketball Association's European Vacation - Jonathan Abrams - Grantland
- Not enough euros in world to make stars go globe-trotting - Gregg Doyell - CBS Sports
- Turkish Club Makes Offer to Kobe Bryant - Lynn Zinser - New York Times
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Id be surprised if FIBA does not declare it legal.
But if for whatever reason they do not, I would not waste my time on a second contract if I were Deron. Sign with another team if you are interested enough in playing overseas.
"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur
If i were D-Will
all these setbacks would make me rethink my decision…
"Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
The players just need to come to an agreement. This is ridiculous.
by power_njerz on Jul 21, 2011 11:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Its not that easy. The owners are in control
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jul 22, 2011 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions
How are they in control?
They make less than the players.
It's a sad state of affairs
when Travis Outlaw makes a higher profit than the entire Nets franchise. Actually so did Sundiata Gaines.
Outlaw makes more than Deron Williams can make in Europe
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The players just need to come to an agreement. This is ridiculous.
by power_njerz on Jul 21, 2011 11:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Before ready for the lockout
how about meet and talk about the best way of the new CBA rule agreement?
1 - D. Williams / J. Farmar / S. Gaines / B. Uzoh
2 - A. Morrow / M. West / S. Graham
3 - T. Outlaw / D.James
4 - K. Humpries / D. Gadzuric / B. Wright
5 - B. Lopez / J. Petro
while i don't think this situation is helping Deron's brand...
perhaps once the lock out ends, a team that spares no expense in terms of facilities, arena, trainers, and staff will look like a God-send compared to what D-Will (and others) may be accustomed to…
the articles detailing how “players don’t know what they’re in for” make a good point; that their true homes, and their true teams will look great when compared to their foreign counterparts, as will the league as a whole.
as long as this entire situation doesn’t lead deron away from the Nets in any way, we’ll have to make due with the limited entertainment that the whole thing provides. at least the Nets have been in the news almost every day since the lock out started
Thanks for the pic...
What a lovely way to start the day!
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
Enough already with Dwill and his dreams of Turkey...
Dwill, along with the rest of the NBA players are really starting to get on my nerves. The owners are no better. Instead of the players putting all of their energy into seeing where else they can play, how about putting all of your energy and effort into getting a deal done. The lockout began 22 days ago. Has there been any meetings between the 2 sides? This is ridiculous. Right now we should be all debating with one another about offseason moves. We should be either praising Billy King for moves he is making or we should be crucifying him. This Turkey thing is really looking weak and pathetic on Dwill. He and other players are trying to scare the owners, and it is not working. The owners know that Dwill does not want to play in Turkey. Just like the rest of the players do not want to play overseas. David Stern is having a meeting with the FIBA officials to shut this whole overseas thing down. And I hope he succeeds.
by aug93 on Jul 22, 2011 7:41 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
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I’ve been saying the same thing for weeks. Get a mediator NOW. The NBA is playing russian roulette with their fan base, which won’t be too quick to embrace this millionaire vs billionaire catfight. Both sides are wrong. Someone needs to be the adult in the room — clearly won’t be DWill and his cohorts looking to jump ship overseas. Pathetic.
by nynjlawyer on Jul 22, 2011 7:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with you njnlawyer, they need a mediator because clearly the owners aren't going...
….to break their necks to get a deal done. They want the players to bleed.
And while I agree with aug93 somewhat, it’s an oversimplification
The owners are locking the players out of work. You cannot spin this and try to pin it on the players.
by MrDollarBills on Jul 22, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
and I still
believe that Williams has every right to go overseas. Some of you folks need to look at this from a perspective other than your own.
If your employer locked you out of work, what the hell would you do? Sit and twiddle your thumbs?
Sure, he’s a millionaire, but he’s still within his rights
by MrDollarBills on Jul 22, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
You are absolutley correct when you say Dwill has every right to go overseas. However...
my point is that if he or any other player thinks that this is a way to scare the owners, then they are wasting their time. Now I am not saying that this is his reason. We are not mind readers so we can only speculate. However, I really do hope he is not trying to scare owners. And while players are thinking about how to get overseas, that is attention being taken away from the task at hand. And that is getting a new deal done…
Well you have to remember the players
Know information we don’t and just like D-wade said they have known this day was probably going to come, he said D-will probably have thought about this years in advance.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
I got a feeling Stern said sure go play overseas publicly but privately it's a different story.
Set them up for the failure knowing FIBA won’t allow players to go overseas.
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exactly it's only 22 days old...
the nfl strike hasn’t even come to an end after what 5 months or so. Relax
When both sides are so far apart, there is no time to relax...
You have experts who believe that the entire season can be lost and you think it’s time to relax? You cannot compare the nfl situation to the nba. No nfl teams are losing money. They have the most productive sport in america. The owners nor players were going to allow for a season to be lost. However, there are quite a few nba teams claiming to be losing money. So the owners are much more willing to let this season go just to get what they want. With the huge gap that is between the owners and players, everyday is precious if they are talking about saving the season. The start of the season is Nov 1st. That’s only 3 months away. This is not the time to be relaxing. This is the time to be negotiating…
I agree and disagree
While it’s true that the players do need to make some concessions, and both sides look awful right now, the onus has to be on the owners who claim to be losing more than $300 + million but wont open up there books to show it.
The reality is that owning a basketball team is a great marketing vehicle that can make your personal worth skyrocket if you play it right. Case and point Mikhail Prokhorov. None of us had heard his name prior to acquiring the Nets, now he is known throughout the States.
The players have no leverage here unless they can start a mass defection overseas. Without threatening to take their services elsewhere, the owners have no incentive to come back to the bargaining table.
However, I am totally sick of the greed on both sides. Please, I need basketball!
by BrooklynNets on Jul 22, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The owners ae not afraid of the players going overseas for 2 reasons:
1- they know there is not enough money over there for our players (did you see the outline of dwill’s contract)
2- they know that the players really do not want to be over there.
If truth be told, the players have no leverage. And the owners know it. The vast majority of the NBA players need the NBA in order to be millionaires. These owners do not need the NBA to be millionaires. They are already filthy rich.
neither side is serious about negotiating
Player looking for new jobs and owners laying off 100 workers means both sides are in for the long haul.
They are fighting over our money. Maybe we should boycott every thing NBA until negotiations get serious. Buy no NBA gear, buy no tickets, no websites and watch no NBATV
The stupid thing in all of this is
the players should look at the league and want it to be healthy. I know I want the company I work for to be healthy and making profits, otherwise I’ll be on the unemployment line.
I get there is distrust regarding what the true profits are… so get in a room, go over all the finances for weeks, and hash out that point.
In the end I’m sure they will see the league is not healthy. Players making 57% of revenue without the expenses is not good. And they get endorsements on top of that!! Endorsements that are a result of the league marketing them!
The players need to realize they may have made a deal for themselves last time that was too good. It happens. Now if they want to continue to work in the NBA, and allow future players to work in the NBA, they need to re-adjust the CBA. They can always put in safeguards in case things swing back to the owners making too much.
+1
Players in the NBA will soon realize how good they really have it and will give in to owners demands. Its hard to believe that a guy like Travis Outlaw has made probably over 50 million dollars at 26 years old, being a backup most of his career.
Read what Ray Allen says about the lockout…
http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/ray-allen-calls-lockout-almost-embarrassing-1574185/
by M I K E on Jul 22, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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