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Vecsey: Mitchell Won't Return

Peter Vecsey's New York Post column is syndicated, appearing in newspapers around the world...often with more news items in the expanded, syndicated version.  Last weekend's column included one item of interest to Nets fans: "Sources say Sam Mitchell will not return to the Nets to assist Avery Johnson..."

Mitchell has been traveling in Canada the last two weeks, selling local officials and businessmen on the viability of the new National Basketball League, looking like the leading candidate for commissioner of the NBL, the David Stern of Canada.  Vecsey's expanded column also notes that two NBA assistants, Dave Joerger of Memphis and Reggie Theus of Minnesota, may be looking for work. If Mitchell goes leave, it would mean Avery Johnson's top two assistants won't be returning.  Larry Krystkowiak has already signed on with the University of Utah.

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Seems like

these guys love working with Avery _

by NetsKiNG on Jun 7, 2011 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Hahaha my thoughts exactly.

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on Jun 7, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh brother

what now? Shaq?

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jun 7, 2011 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Would have been nice to grab Messina.

by MyNetsForLife on Jun 7, 2011 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah really bummed

That we missed out on Messina.

Maybe Avery threw a stink about bringing on a possible replacement for him.

Or maybe he just preferred L.A.

Who knows?

by dogra on Jun 7, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm curious about the Messina love tho

Have you guys seen him coach lol, know his strengths and weaknesses? I haven’t

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jun 7, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bring back Lawrence Frank...

Or Adelman.

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on Jun 7, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah Frank, who's been shot down every time so far

He was a horrible coach. I recall NI saying he would be a head coach very very soon after getting fired.

Nada.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Jun 8, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

i noted how since frank took over

the team defense kept getting worse and worse and worse while the offense stayed in the same stagnant place

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 8, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

in other news

deshawn stevenson might look nice in a nets uni

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Jun 7, 2011 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

it would be funny too because

jay-z dissed him in a song

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Jun 7, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

blow the whistle

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Jun 7, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha thats when jay-z thought he had the inside track on lebron

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 8, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't Mitchell our third assistant that has departed?

http://otrbasketball.com/forums

Yankees-Nets-Broncos

by OTRWaldo on Jun 7, 2011 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow what the heck is going on???

Bring in Mario Elie please.

by power_njerz on Jun 7, 2011 9:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Mitchell didn't seem to do much as an assistant....

Might as well give him a chance to be a head coach somewhere….

by Christopher Manchesi on Jun 7, 2011 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

LoL

no offense, but how would you know what he did/didn’t do as an assistant?

by NetsKiNG on Jun 7, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

No problem

Mike Budenholzer
Mario Elie

Budenholzer is a terrific assistant for San Antonio, very good defensively and very smart. Elie is good as well

by JerseysFinest. on Jun 7, 2011 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

Talk about weird… first Larry, then Popeye is up in the air now Mitchell?
Eric Musselman, Michael Curry, Mario Elie, too soon to ask Shaq

by Blkswizz on Jun 7, 2011 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

i think head coaches are overrated in the league

maybe 2 or 3 next level head coaches.

last thing i’m worried about are assistants.

it’s a players league

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Jun 7, 2011 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Dave Joerger

Is mentioned by Vecsey as being pursued by unidentified teams. He is a rising star in NBA ranks. Won D-League twice.

by Net Income on Jun 7, 2011 10:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Not worried about changing of Agents

D-will needs someone thats ready to take his career to the next level, and ready for the big stage and has more contacts for him, to get him the big market love. The assistant coaching thing is not that big a deal Proky has the money we will get some solid minds in here I’m sure.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jun 7, 2011 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Atronic

I agree 100% with both points

I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"

by dmitchell624 on Jun 7, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

damn everybody bailing on avery ....

the difference between Jordan and James is..... class

by Mike28Live on Jun 7, 2011 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

So who so we have left? Loyer & Barrise only?

Can we get Hakeem as our bigs coach + 2 other future coach candidates for us?

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on Jun 7, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

So

Leon Rose?

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jun 7, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow called this in the earlier thread

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ribjazz Brian T. Smith
Nets and ex-Jazz’s Deron Williams expected to sign with agent Leon Rose (CAA), source says, after leaving longtime former agent Bob McClaren
1 hour ago

tribjazz Brian T. Smith
Williams plans to align with Rose, source says, in the hope of bringing talent to Brooklyn. Rose represents LeBron James, among others.
1 hour ago
tribjazz Brian T. Smith
McClaren and Williams go way back. More change for Williams during change-filled season.
1 hour ago

by JerseysFinest. on Jun 7, 2011 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Very good if you ask me

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jun 7, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very good

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Jun 7, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is good for us.

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on Jun 7, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Story:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsjazznotes/51964035-62/williams-nets-rose-agent.html.csp

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jun 7, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

and if I'm not mistaken

Leon Rose also represents J.R. Smith

CAA trying to get closer to Prokhorov

by JerseysFinest. on Jun 7, 2011 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Its also exactly what Brian Smith said above

D-Will hiring an angent who he knows can help bring talent to help him out in Brooklyn.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jun 7, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH NO SAM MITCHELL???

He’s the guy who coached Chris Bosh to be a tough player!! Will Brook lose all the toughness and grit he showed this season?

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Jun 7, 2011 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

i dont know if i like this

CAA seems pretty shady to me

deron williams is better than kyrie irving

by William_H_HOLLA on Jun 7, 2011 11:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I dont see how this can be seen as bad news

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jun 7, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed 100%

This is good news. Dwill is here to stay but needs as much help as possible getting talent.

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on Jun 7, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not sure

but wade and bosh have the same agent, different from lebron, but not sure if their guy is under CAA as well

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 8, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

WWW wanted to get close to Proky for the longest time. This may be great for us long term.

by power_njerz on Jun 7, 2011 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

yup

but dwight isnt CAA or shall i say WWWes

by danxcr on Jun 7, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just going to say that

Nets just gained a huge asset in William Wesley

Known in many circles as one of the most powerful men in the NBA

by JerseysFinest. on Jun 7, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

If something truly incredible happens

and Dwight becomes one of Rose’s clients (pipe dream) then Id be 110% about Dwight being a Net.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jun 7, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not yet lol

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jun 7, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

He has been wanting to get in Proky’s circle for the longest you can’t blame them. But if it is true then they see the potential of Brooklyn as well which pushes the momentum even more in our favor.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jun 7, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

NI or ND

Already brought up a great point

They will make sure deron and the nets get the players they want now

Remember rip hamilton????

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Jun 7, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

mmhmm

and maybe they can pay WWWes to keep CP3 out of NYK…

by danxcr on Jun 7, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or

WWW will do what Chris Paul wants

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jun 7, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leon and WWWes

knows that Mikhail is going to be a powerhouse in the NBA, and they want to be on the friends not enemies!

by danxcr on Jun 7, 2011 11:13 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

jump on the powertrain

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Jun 7, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So where are the individuals

that thought that Deron firing his old agent meant he was leaving and we had to trade him?

by danxcr on Jun 7, 2011 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Wade doesnt need LBJ

he just need a decoy… amazing play so far by wade these Finals

by danxcr on Jun 7, 2011 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

if JR Smith

is repped by CAA, then he WILL be a Net.

by NetsKiNG on Jun 7, 2011 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

just checked

and yes, he’s repped by Leon Rose.

by NetsKiNG on Jun 7, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i mean if anyone can control him

its avery johnson, right?

wait, or just send him down to the d-league?

wait, or just trade him for 2 first and an ex-laker?

by danxcr on Jun 7, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to give JR a shot

he won’t be expensive and he a crazy talented player.

by NetsKiNG on Jun 7, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i bet it's more about DWILL

going with a firm that is tops in entertainment/endorsement opportunities.

smart move.

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Jun 7, 2011 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

is it me or is anyone else somewhat happy these assistants are leaving?

first. the avery rep continues to grow. i’m shocked how everyone jumped ship for another job after one year with him

B. what did our assistants do? hump is the only person that showed real progress without overall regression in his strength. and he was in his contract year spike

III. i’m glad we are cleaning house once again. this year was just a stopgap to better the foundation

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 8, 2011 2:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I doubt

Mitchell ever planned to stay very long in any assistant position. Probably a gig that was available at the time so he took it, but having been a head coach he most likely didn’t plan on making a career of being a second fiddle type guy. The Nets staff probably expected this too.

"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."

by jrtallent on Jun 8, 2011 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Two things

1) we have not heard anyone is leaving due to Avery. They are leaving because of opportunities being presented to them. No need to manufacture things that aren’t there. Like it or not Avery is definitely here next year so why start creating some drama around the franchise when it’s not there. Not good for recruiting or stability. I don’t have any strong opinions about Avery one way or the other. I think this season with D-Will will give us a better view of his abilities.

2) I think they should look into bringing Eddie Jordan in as an assistant. Our offense was one of the weakest things last year and he can really help with ball movement and fast break. The team needs to learn how to make lesser skilled players more efficient through ball movement until they get more alpha dogs on offense.

by Netted on Jun 8, 2011 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

no. eddie jordan and that princeton offense

it was terrible in philly and even more dreadful in washington. i do not want him on the coaching bench

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 8, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

we need Avery to teach them so DEFENSE.

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on Jun 8, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

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