Monta Ellis for Iggy
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jun 7, 2011 1:19 PM EDT
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If this goes down we can forget about Thad Young, cause the Sixers for sure will match any offer!!!
They will need to lock up their small forward situation for years to come, and who better than their young home grown product? That also knocks 2 potential players to trade for that had been discussed on this site......this is further proof that we dont have the goods to get a deal done for guys like that......since lopez would only be used in a potential DH12 deal.
Many on this board will feel like this is a blessing, while others will be extremely dissapointed.......what's your take?
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Lets go after Marcus “Buckets” Thornton.
Fire Johnson and hire Brown - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking somethin' when he let Brown slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jun 7, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You'll have to pay a whoooooole lot.
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by caseycheesecake on Jun 7, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't Care
It would only take about .701% of the population of Brooklyn alone to fill the Barclays Center.
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I want the Nets to call up GS
and see what it would take to get Ellis. I thought they could get more than Iggy and his monsterous contract.
but i dont think anything we can offer
is better than iggy
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jun 7, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
No chance. The Warriors want a deal done before, NOT AFTER, July 1 and you can’t trade players on another team.
Fire Johnson and hire Brown - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking somethin' when he let Brown slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jun 7, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? I strongly disagree.
I think this news is good for the Nets for two reasons.
First, as you noted, if the Sixers were to trade Iguodala they would likely look to retain Thaddeus Young. That would save the Nets from making a mistake and overpaying a player who doesn’t have a real position and is better suited to play in a system similar to that Sixers’. Will he be able to produce as effectively in a half-court system? I’m of the opinion that he won’t.
Second, it makes the Sixers a worse team. Iguodala’s production is severely overlooked; he’s one of the league’s best perimeter defenders, he’s extremely versatile, he’s unselfish and he’s a perfect fit for the Sixers’ system. Ellis isn’t a bad player, by any means, but he’s a ball-stopper. Ellis is an inefficient scorer, he’s undersized, he has tunnel-vision and he’s a poor defender. Maybe his bad habits result from playing in the Warriors’ system, but I don’t see him as a player whose style is conducive to winning.
I think the Sixers should look to trade Iguodala to the Clippers for Kaman and Aminu. We’ll see what happens.
Agree w/ your points
re: Young and Philly getting worse…
But god damit I want some scorers..Billy should at least call and see what it would take.
What makes u think BK has never called Golden State?
You think he announces every inquiry he makes?
i agree with point 1 but not point 2
i think adding Monta would make the 6ers a more balanced and better team
Philly is lacking a true go to scorer which they would have in Monta
by mikeyexcel201 on Jun 7, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
If this happens
I love it for the W’s.
Not sure how Monta fits with Philly. That’s a strange roster.
Wow, Warriors fans really don't want Monta back.
In a poll on their site, it’s a pretty clear margin of victory
I think they just want Iggy
He can bring some defense to their team and compliments Curry better.
They dont want him because they watched him his entire career
and know’s he’s just a chuck. Give any player 20 FGA per game and see how much they can score. And then people on this board is calling Iguodala good? In which league? The guy can barelly lead a team, and hasn’t proven anything. I thought when Iverson got traded off that team Idudola would become a star….instead he stayed almost the same way.
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I think its great trade for both teams, Ellis doesn’t fit in with Curry, and the sixers will more scoring, and thats a good back court with Holiday and Ellis
great trade for the warriors.
Curry/Iggy/Wright/Lee/Biedrins is a solid all round team.
I’ve always wanted Iggy on the Nets but oh well.
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I'd rather take a chance at Thornton. He can possibly turn out to be a decent defender, and he'll be cheaper.
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But his offense is already great. Its a lot better than having no defense with Morrow.
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That backcourt is a bit small
Monta is 6’3 with a wingspan of 6’3. And Holiday isn’t big enough where he can switch over to guard the SGs.
It think this works for both teams
The open up a spot for Young or Turner.
That said. I wonder if we can get involved some how.
Since they might need some veteran help at the SF, We can send Thorn his crap(outlaw) and Farmar/Petro for a combination of Williams, Nocioni and/or Capono. I would even give him a second for that.
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The Sixers do need to open up a roster spot. They have Turner (a #2 pick…you can’t give up on a #2 pick that quickly), Young (who is extremely important to what they do) and Iggy…the problem is that Iggy is the best defender on the team, and maybe the best perimeter defender in the league…why give him up for Monta Ellis? Are they trying to recreate the magic from the old McDonald’s All American games where Monta and Lou Williams were considered stars? Why don’t they just draft Selby and have a whole crew of undersized shooting guards who can’t pass?
This would be a fantastic trade for GS though. They believe Curry has Steve Nash ability, and with Iggy and Udoh on the team, they can hide his undersized body on D. If they drafted Alec Burks, and got something for David Lee or Andris Biedrins (and I believe both have value in the league) they could have a legitimate team.
Curry
Burks
Iggy
DLee
Udoh (or Biedrins, or Udoh at PF and Biedrins at C…whatever)
and they have a nice bench…that is a fun team that can also play D.
Again though…why are the Sixers considering this at all?
Ellis is a terrible fit IMO
He’d take importance and touches away from Holiday in the backcourt and you’d have to play Turner at the 3… ET needs the ball in his hands, so Ellis ain’t a good fit next to him. Someone like say Kevin Martin would make a lot more sense for Philly.
Philly should really just be banking on Jrue Holiday maturing. I know I’ll get flack for this but he could be one of the best PGs in the league down the line (especially defensively). Iggy works well there if he doesn’t have to carry the offense. I don’t know a team that Evan Turner really fits on as long as he is playing point forward…the guy has to learn to play off the ball. But Monta…he doesn’t help at all.
If Philly had
Holiday-Martin-Iggy, then that is a pretty cool lineup IMO.
Completely agree on Jrue
Hes got potential to be an all star type pg.
But I also understand dealing iggy. Hes paid like a #1, but hes a #2 or a #3 on a championship level team.
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But his salary is close enough to Ellis that they can be dealt straight up for one another. I understand what you are saying. Iggy is paid too much, and the Sixers don’t really have a shot at the title (or even legitimate contending) unless they bring in a star to let Iggy be Pippen (because we all know Iggy is no superstar, especially on offense), but trading for Ellis definitely isn’t the way to go.
Again though, I understand dealing Iggy…it’s too bad this Philly team isn’t in Mia, LA or NY…they would be a perfect destination for a star.
I think they are more than ready to deal Iggy
He had issues with Collins. Not happy about his role.
The issue with him that I have, is he really has never improved. He still doesnt have a jump shot, he still cant take over games in the 4th quarter. He still makes bad decisions at the wrong times.
He also needs the ball in his hands to be most effective but to be honest Philly needs to move forward with Holiday having the ball in his hands. I think hes ready to take the next step. Not sure why they want Ellis. They are better off getting a big. But they do lack offense- no true go to guy on that squad.
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BAAAAAAAAAAAAAD trade for both teams.
Fire Johnson and hire Brown - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking somethin' when he let Brown slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jun 7, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Sixers fans hating this trade
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Sixers are in the process of selling the team
this might hold them up on making moves.
imagine something extremely witty here
I would LOVE to get Monta on a division rival.
Especially if it means they’re giving up Iggy. Even better when it’ll stunt the growth of the division rival’s young point guard and #2 pick.
What about Evan Turner?
The 76ers can move him to the 3spot and still make Young available. ehh.. idk :/
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Great trade for Philly
Iggy is overrated. Not worth the money he makes. Paid like a super star but plays like an average starter. Sure he has great defense but his overall game and production is overrated. There was a time when he was a super star and sadly that has passed. Its odd because hes not past him prime in regards to age as a professional basketball player…. close though.
When i think of iggy i picture the sorry face he made when Devin Harris hit that half court shot going out of bounds in his face to win the game. hahaha
In what Universe is Iggy Overrated?
He’s All NBA Defense Second Team behind Kobe Bryant, and it’s probably a matter of seniority at this point. He holds opposing 3’s to a 10.4 PER. That’s insane. If that weren’t enough, he averages like 6 assists and 6 rebounds per game.
He’s not an elite scorer. So what? He doesn’t really turn the ball over that often and he can check the league’s premiere wings.
Monta Ellis? He shoots it a lot. Some nights it goes in, some nights it doesn’t. He’s an indifferent defender, he turns the ball over more than Iguodala, and a lower percentage of his possessions end in assists. He just shoots it, a lot.
This is a salary dump for Philadelphia because they’re about to be sold. It’s really unfortunate because they’re on the cusp of taking a jump to the next level.
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great news for us as well
orlando was linked to both players if this trade goes down
this will only make it harder for the orlando FO to find players to put around dwight
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monta ellis is definently better than igoudala any day of the week
it would b a nightmare playing him 4 times a season
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Is an interesting study. He’s actually better on offense at the 4 and better on defense at the 3.
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the more I read about that trade
It looks like Philly is trading one of the league’s best intangible guys for one of the league’s worst intangible guys. Ladies and gentleman, Rod Thorn!
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If this goes down we should be looking into Dorell Wright.
by vincecarter4pres on Jun 8, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions
That would be a lot better than Kirilenko.
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Now Iggy for Kaman is being discussed, common speculation is something along the lines of Aminu will need to be included as well though.
by vincecarter4pres on Jun 9, 2011 1:39 AM EDT reply actions
He had the skill set to be good
but he’s always been medicore, even up to this date.
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