Graham Still In, Wright Probably Out
by Net Income on Jun 27, 2011 7:04 PM EDT
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PrintIn two moves to give them more flexibility in trades and the pursuit of free agents, the Nets have decided to extend their deadline on re-signing Stephen Graham and will almost certainly not give Brandan Wright a qualifying offer to make him a restricted free agent.
Colin Stephenson reports that the Nets have extended the deadline for deciding whether to guarantee Graham's $1.1 million contract for 2011-12. Previously, the Nets had until July 5 to make a decision. Now it's the day before the start of the season. The Nets also have the right to make a $3.398 million qualifying offer to Wright, whom they acquired in exchange for Troy Murphy but are not expected to do so, allowing Wright to become unrestricted.
By moving the Graham deadline forward, the Nets will be able to include Graham's non-guaranteed contract in an off-season trade but give his new team the option of waiving him before the season, instantly clearing $1.1 million in cap space. By dumping Wright, they free themselves of his contract and increase their cap space. The Nets could, if they wanted, attempt to re-sign Wright, who had expressed a desire to return.
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Must keep…GrahaMVP.
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
by Andy. on Jun 27, 2011 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
The dream is still alive... keep chasing it, Stevie!
by Andres B on Jun 27, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Oh no
This thread is going to get ugly.
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My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Jun 27, 2011 7:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Avery walking on water?
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
by 3ptChucker on Jun 27, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Oye.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
Stephen Graham the worst player in the nba?
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Graham cracker
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Jun 27, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
"Sweeten a Outlaw deal"
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
by aunt-B on Jun 27, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Is it not worth it to extend the offer to Wright?
Perhaps the Nets can extract something from an interested team in a sign-and-trade.
"It's kind of like the Garden. It's the same feel. It's special." - Deron Williams on the Barclays Center.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
Teams are always interested in athletic, high potential bigs.
Someone always thinks they can make them get “it.”
"It's kind of like the Garden. It's the same feel. It's special." - Deron Williams on the Barclays Center.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
lol i know
I was just kidding
but nah, not interested in Wright
by MrDollarBills on Jun 27, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Nets should bring him back.
But I’m admittedly (too) high on Wright. So, my opinion might be tilted.
If you're interested, you can follow me @TokenNBR.
They can still take Wright, but as an UR FA instead of a restricted FA.
I doubt any other team will offer more than 2.5 million for him.
Why should the Nets offer him 3.4 million, which could hurt acquiring desired free agents.
Wright has the impressive ability to jump with the ball over his head, higher than any other Net player.
He also has the ability to miss 70% of his acrobatic shots near the basket.
by jerry25 on Jun 27, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nope he was a lottery pick so big qualifying offer
probably not worth keeping at all he’d take the offer for sure we need the cap space.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
What!?
I’m okay that Graham and Wright leave Nets.
1 - D. Williams / J. Farmer / S. Gaines / B. Uzoh
2 - A. Morrow / M. West / S. Graham
3 - T. Outlaw / S.Vujacic / D.James
4 - K. Humpries / D. Gadzuric / B. Wright
5 - B. Lopez / J. Petro
in all seriousness
By moving the Graham deadline forward, the Nets will be able to include Graham’s non-guaranteed contract in an off-season trade but give his new team the option of waiving him before the season, instantly clearing $1.1 million in cap space. By dumping Wright, they free themselves of his contract and reduce their cap space. The Nets could, if they wanted, attempt to re-sign Wright, who had expressed a desire to return.
This is probably why
we hope.
If Avery pushes King enough to convince him to bring GrahaMVP back. I swear.
If you're interested, you can follow me @TokenNBR.
hah... okay...
Let’s keep Sasha and make Graham out.
I think that’s better.
1 - D. Williams / J. Farmer / S. Gaines / B. Uzoh
2 - A. Morrow / M. West / S. Graham
3 - T. Outlaw / S.Vujacic / D.James
4 - K. Humpries / D. Gadzuric / B. Wright
5 - B. Lopez / J. Petro
Wouldn't mind bringing Wright back for the Vet minimum
if he could somehow weigh more than 205, not drive&shoot everytime he touches the ball & not miss 5out of every 6 dunk attempts he could be a serviceable bench player down the road.
As for Stephen “the 3-pt shooter fouling kiiiiiiiiid” Graham, don’t call us, we won’t call you either
Were they saying "Boo" or "Boo-urns?"
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Ohh hellll NAAAAAA! lol
Nets should abide by the No More Scrubs rule. Im tired of the bobby simmons grahams and every other scrub that just eats roster space.
We should make an award show for all time terrible Nets
and call it “The Grahamys”
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Jun 27, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 11 recs
lol
Here are your presenters Rod THorn and Ed Stefanski for this years Scrub of the year:
And the nominees are:
YI Jianlian
Bobby Simmons
Stephen Graham
Kiki
Travis The Crab Outlaw
The Grahamyyyyy goes toooooo:
I'd give it to Graham
Dwill/?/Josh Smith/Humphries/Superman
2012 NBA Champions
The biggest 14 year old Nets fan on the planet.
it really isn't
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
T-Will & CDR...
broke many hearts, mine included…
by M I K E on Jun 27, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It broke my heart
when we traded them. So much talent but no one with the balls to guide them.
Dwill/?/Josh Smith/Humphries/Superman
2012 NBA Champions
The biggest 14 year old Nets fan on the planet.
They should call em the Dwayne Schintzius' or sumpthin'
Tsst tsst
Were they saying "Boo" or "Boo-urns?"
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by Kendrick Jay on Jun 27, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Billy King will use his good boy phone to tell Wright we're not giving him a QO
Then he’ll use his naughty boy phone to call David West & offer him a 4th deal
Were they saying "Boo" or "Boo-urns?"
@SlayerSantana on Twitter
by Kendrick Jay on Jun 27, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone turn on DirectTV channel 468
Billy King is doing an exclusive interview on the Bill Tetley hour at 8pm EST
Were they saying "Boo" or "Boo-urns?"
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by Kendrick Jay on Jun 27, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you sure Nets won't be responsible for $100,000 of his salary before the start of the season?
At the start of free agency, will Graham’s salary count as $100,000 or 1.1 million toward the cap.
I assume therefore, that if Nets need that cap space to sign a free agent, they could just waive him at that time?
his salary will count towards the cap until we cut him but its no much 1.1mil, if we need the space theyll cut him
hes being kept around as a contract filler in case a trade arises
by Henry Sanchez on Jun 27, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
deron williams is definately staying
especially if we keep this lock down defender did u see how he lockdown jeff green?
The only explanation is that
DWill insisted on keeping Graham, otherwise he walks. Plus, Graham can be the key piece in Dwight Howard trade.
He also does an excellent job washing derons uniform
by ItsAllNets on Jun 27, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
That image made me lol...
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Jun 27, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll wash Deron uniform for 1.1 million a year!
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Of course.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Jun 27, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
tro murphy expiring turned into us losing a second round pick in a stacked draft
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
I know you all like to look at graham as terrible
But the truth is he’s a professional basketball player in the NBA. That’s better than any member on this site can say. Its better than any college basketball player can say or any European league basketball player can say.
He’s a hard worker from a military family and not someone who is going to contaiminate team chemistry.
So don’t say that he’s terrible or make jokes like everyone on the planet is better than him. Compared to the rest of the league he is not as good. But that is the elite. Give the guy a break because while he’s out there working, we’re all sitting here typing, and ones alot harder than the other.
by The Big Russian on Jun 27, 2011 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 10 recs
Im not refuting that
The point im trying to make is everyone on here is acting like he has acomplished nothing.
If you worked your whole life at something and finally reached your dream through hard work, how would you feel if once you made it, people hated you?
by The Big Russian on Jun 27, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty good
Because I’d be a millionaire
by Frigidevil on Jun 27, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I dont care what family he comes from, he sucks. He shouldnt be in this league. Lowest per in the league, cant shoot, cant dunk and thinks he is the best player on the team
by RandyOreens on Jun 27, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
"Thinks he is the best player on the team"
And you had direct conversation with him and he told you that he thought he was the best player on the team?
Please, your a joke. Great stuff your giving us here.
by The Big Russian on Jun 27, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Many of you are completely missing the point
In no way shape or form did I say that Stephen Graham is a good player. The way you all act toward him is ridiculous. We all know compared to the rest of the NBA he is a nothing. But to say stuff like “he thinks hes the best player on the team,” or “He’s a fresh turd” is ridiculous.
In my estimation, nobody on here knows how to handle a rebuilding franchise. Maybe because its a “New York” market or whatever, but it is not the Nets’ plans to have Graham Outlaw and Petro starting and playing heavy minutes. Who did you want to put in to give our starters a rest? Quinton Ross? Scottie Reynolds?
This team won 12 games 2 years ago. Many of you expect the playoffs the next year. For a team that wins that many games, it takes an inordinate amount of time to recover. In fact if we were not a New York market team we would be toast still ala the T-Wolves. But since we are near New York we can have our team bought by the richest man in Russia, get a new arena, and replace all staff members.
You people have to look at things realistically. It’s not like we’re the Mets here, we’re not losing in spectacular fashion that is inexcusable. WE WERE A BAD TEAM.
Now since we are in winning mode, we can afford to bring back Graham because we know that he will be burryed on the bench as we are going to bring in top talent to replace him.
Such negative people.
by The Big Russian on Jun 27, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 13 recs
I wouldn't mind Graham as a 13th guy
I’m only scared that Avery won’t let him be a 13th guy. he may actually give him significant minutes.
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Jun 27, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I'm sorry but when I see this I always consider this a foolish argument.
When some bashes a bad athlete and some counters with he’s better than you. Like you said he is a professional athlete, he’s judged on his peers not people that are not a part of his profession. It a comparison thats reaching to try and defend a players that sucks. Say I’m a computer programmer, he isn’t that makes me a better programmer than Graham. Does that make me a good programmer?
He’s not better than any college player or euro player either. You think the Cavs would trade Irving for Graham or the Bulls would trade the rights to Mirotic for graham?
Graham was THE WORST player in the league last season to play his level of minutes PER wise. Maybe people would be kinder if Avery didn’t start him in games and treat us like morons telling us he could defend. The only memorable moment of Graham from the season defensively and otherwise is him costing us a double overtime win. I dod know about anyone else but I’m done with having scrubs on this team. He takes up a roster spot, I want each roster spot filled up with player than can contribute something or might in the the future. Graham does neither. Even it the contribution his winning experience and acting as almost an extra assistant coach. Just because he’s a nice guy doesn’t mean he deserves a roster spot in the nba, which the fans pay for. They have every right not to want somone who contributes nothing on the team. And don’t tell us he’s working while we’re typing and he works harder than us, Graham got paid close to a million dollar last year to be awful at his job, sign me up for that. Most here work hard for a normal salary what sounds easier to you?
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
by shea23 on Jun 27, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Hey DJ, what do you feel about Stevie possibly coming back?
by Andres B on Jun 27, 2011 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
look at the kid to the right of james in the stands
he had nightmares for days
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 28, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Wright is wrong , Graham is the man.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jun 27, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with the majority
He’s going to be used in a potential trade, and if not, they won’t guarantee him. If Wright doesn’t find a new home, the Nets should entertain the idea of bringing him to Springfield.
i have laughed at pretty much every comment in this thread
gotta love (not really) GrahaMVP
I'm looking for Ray Finkle.....and a clean pair of shorts.
I almost just nunchucked you. You don't even realize.
best thread ever
love thy underdog
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jun 27, 2011 8:46 PM EDT reply actions
I feel like a lot of people are overlooking Graham's contribution.
Let’s not forget: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/4/12/2106217/the-man-the-myth-the-legend-stephen-grahamvpww
If you're interested, you can follow me @TokenNBR.
Be realistic
In no way shape or form is Stephen Graham is a good player. The way you all act toward him is ridiculous. We all know compared to the rest of the NBA he is a nothing. But to say stuff like "he thinks hes the best player on the team," or "He’s a fresh turd" is ridiculous.
In my estimation, nobody on here knows how to handle a rebuilding franchise. Maybe because its a "New York" market or whatever, but it is not the Nets’ plans to have Graham Outlaw and Petro starting and playing heavy minutes. Who did you want to put in to give our starters a rest? Quinton Ross? Scottie Reynolds?
This team won 12 games 2 years ago. Many of you expect the playoffs the next year. For a team that wins that many games, it takes an inordinate amount of time to recover. In fact if we were not a New York market team we would be toast still ala the T-Wolves. But since we are near New York we can have our team bought by the richest man in Russia, get a new arena, and replace all staff members.
You people have to look at things realistically. It’s not like we’re the Mets here, we’re not losing in spectacular fashion that is inexcusable. WE WERE A BAD TEAM.
Now since we are in winning mode, we can afford to bring back Graham because we know that he will be burryed on the bench as we are going to bring in top talent to replace him.
Such negative people.
by The Big Russian on Jun 27, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
No. No. No.
You don’t waste a roster spot on a player that has a negative effect on the team on both sides of the court. You just don’t.
There are much better bench players available in the D-League and even sitting at home watching the games. Maybe — and this is a big maybe — if he’s a great locker-room presence then you keep him as the team’s 12th man, but you just don’t put a player of Graham’s caliber (or lack thereof) on the court. It’s not like he’s a young player with upside — straight up, the dude is a horrible NBA player.
Over the course of Avery Johnson’s short coaching career he has seemed to have an infatuation with players that lack talent yet put in effort and buy into what he’s selling. He has a propensity to play these players over the more talented and productive ones, even if it serves to have a negative impact on the team (on the court). It’s a troubling trend; one that can’t continue if the Nets hope to reach the championship-level.
Avery Johnson’s stubbornness is something that I’m really concerned about. Hopefully, having Deron Williams on the team will change things; but it’s something that’s always been in the back of my head — can this team win with Avery Johnson at the helm? Stephen Graham is a product of Johnson’s stubbornness.
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avery loves his teachers pets
I remember Jessica Taft was interviewing Graham, and he said he says Good Morning everyday to Avery.
Stephen Graham
is a product of a roster devoid with talent
by MrDollarBills on Jun 27, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually I don't get it
Yes, we were…no maybe, we are bad team.
But, why we have to bring him back?
If our team is bad and needs to improve, we need a change.
NBA team can have only 15 players.
Of course, no one of team have all 15 valuable players.
But there is no way to resign him.
What could Stephen Graham help our team?
IMO, Trenton Hassell was better defence player than him.
How about offence?
Travis Outlaw could attack over him.
He is young or has potential?
He is 29 years now.
So, why we have to resign?
1 - D. Williams / J. Farmer / S. Gaines / B. Uzoh
2 - A. Morrow / M. West / S. Graham
3 - T. Outlaw / S.Vujacic / D.James
4 - K. Humpries / D. Gadzuric / B. Wright
5 - B. Lopez / J. Petro
relax guys it said they're extending the deadline not giving him a extension
the Nets have extended the deadline for deciding whether to guarantee Graham’s $1.1 million contract for 2011-12. Previously, the Nets had until July 5 to make a decision. Now it’s the day before the start of the season.
By moving the Graham deadline forward, the Nets will be able to include Graham’s non-guaranteed contract in an off-season trade but give his new team the option of waiving him before the season, instantly clearing $1.1 million in cap space.
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by universal on Jun 27, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So where can I join the Stephen Graham fan club?
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
This thread got really ridiculous! The Graham and Wright thng was explained pretty clearly.
Guess you all need an excuse to be silly!
In all seriousness, I think the Nets picked right. Between Graham and Wright…I choose Graham.
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
Houw about neither?
1 - D. Williams / J. Farmer / S. Gaines / B. Uzoh
2 - A. Morrow / M. West / S. Graham
3 - T. Outlaw / S.Vujacic / D.James
4 - K. Humpries / D. Gadzuric / B. Wright
5 - B. Lopez / J. Petro
Alright...
I choose Wright.
We need a big man.
1 - D. Williams / J. Farmer / S. Gaines / B. Uzoh
2 - A. Morrow / M. West / S. Graham
3 - T. Outlaw / S.Vujacic / D.James
4 - K. Humpries / D. Gadzuric / B. Wright
5 - B. Lopez / J. Petro
I think that Outlaw is going to have a break out season.....
playing alongside of Deron Williams…..
the season over free agency period is days upon us
i have nothing left to say for the dead weight on this roster that can and should be given the boot before the start of the next season
with that said. graham you are a great humble civilian but its time for you to find a new occupation. I assume a smart disciplined civilian like yourself has a college degree? Time to put it to use
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R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 28, 2011 12:49 AM EDT reply actions
Brandon Wright could become a Kris Humphries type story..
assuming he works hard, gets in shape, stay’s patient, and hook’s up with a hot celebrity..
Wright, yes, Graham NO!
I still think Wright has an upside. Graham is already all he can be. If Wright can handle it, ego wise, I’d start him every night in Springfield and give him playing time. He hasn’t played much since college. Graham is a strong practice player, and that’s where he should be getting court time, in practice. Graham is a player who is going nowhere fast. We need to be going somewhere, and fast, if we want to deserve for DWILL to re-sign.
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
Why did the Nets trade for Wright???
It cost the Nets a second round pick to acquire him last year, then they hardly played him to get a good look (they played Gadzuric as much or more) and now they are not even giving him a QO? What was the point of trading for him last year?
Seems to me the Nets completely wasted their 2012 second round pick.
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