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NetsDaily Off-Season Report #11

This could be the last off-season report for a while. If the NBA goes on lockout, no need for weekly summaries of players and owners screaming at each other or the latest skinny on Springfield Armor roster moves. If the billionaires and millionaires on either side of the bargaining table can't reach a deal, why should the fans care (that much)?

In recognition of that, we've prepared a bit of a feast, starting with all manner of Draft stories, particularly on MarShon Brooks and Bojan Bogdanovic. We explain what trainer to the stars Tim Grover meant when told Chad Ford that Brooks was a little bit like Kobe; detail what we know about Bogdanovic's Euro contract; pat ourselves on the back about our story on Brooks' sleeper prospects; pit Bill Simmons vs Bill Simmons; offer up a name or two on the Nets' undrafted free agent list; worry about a strike that could slow down construction at Barclays; take a look at the future of traveling to Brooklyn; and revise some pages here and there.

Star-divide

Every Sunday, we’ll be updating the Nets’ off-season with bits and pieces of information, gossip, etc. to help take the edge off missing the playoffs, relying on the Nets’ beat reporters and others who have slipped interesting stuff into larger stories, blogs, tweets...plus our own reporting

A good start, maybe even a great start

As we've said many times since Thursday night (actually Friday morning), anytime you go into a draft with the #27 and #36 pick and emerge with the second leading scorer in the NCAA, the second leading scorer in the Euroleague and a double-double machine from the ACC, you've had a good night (particularly when all you had to give up were two second round picks in 2013 and 2014 and a "few" of Mikhail Prokhorov's milliions...he has a few more.)

The big deal, of course, was getting MarShon Brooks at #25, ten spots lower than where he and the Nets had projected him. We're always concerned when a player drops 10 spots or more, with little explanation. We remember the excitement and ultimate disappointment with Marcus Williams who had a similar, but more dramatic fall. Some in the Nets organization are saying that the drop was mainly due to other GM's love of big Europeans. Seven were taken ahead of him (eight if you include Canadian Tristan Thompson). Of course, there were red flags: his reported selfishness, immaturity and arrogance, but at #27, those are not big risks and with the right coaching can be turned into advantages.

Bojan Bogdanovic and Jordan Williams also had some issues that kept them from being drafted higher.

Bogdanovic had just signed a three-year deal (but not undergone a physical) with Turkish and Euroleague powerhouse Fenerbahce Ulker. The Nets don't seem to be bothered by it and one has to think that having European ownership is an advantage when dealing with issues like buyouts. The Nets' newest director, Sergei Kushchenko, is a long time Euroleague official, even Executive of the Year in 2006.

Williams has had weight and conditioning issues, although his preparation for the draft has been exemplary, at least compared to his time at Maryland.

We were reminded of a draft a decade back. On June 27, 2001, the Net had their best off-season day ever. In the afternoon, Rod Thorn and Jerry Colangelo agreed in principle to trade Jason Kidd for Stephon Marbury, then that night traded the rights to Eddie Griffin for the rights to Richard Jefferson, Jason Collins and Brandon Armstrong and then grabbed Brian Scalabrine in the second. Thorn knew he needed depth and that was what the 3 for 1 deal offered.

The Nets of course already have their point guard in Deron Williams (two years younger today than Kidd was in 2001) and went for depth in the draft as well. Bogdanovic won't be coming over for a year, but Brooks and J-Will (!) fill gaps nicely, the same ones ironically that Jefferson and Collins filled in 2001 (minus the defense of course). The Nets may also sign a couple of free agents once the CBA talks clear up. Ben Hansbrough, Tyler's brother and Notre Dame point guard, is one we hear they like.

D-Will hasn't spoken yet about the draft but considering that most pundits put the Nets in the upper third of teams drafting Thursday, he has to be pleased...at least we hope he is.

International Man of Mystery

Bogdanovic of course was the big surprise to most fans on Draft Night. The Nets didn't talk much about him even when he was in on June 14, but many in the organization liked him, with one telling us a month ago that he had first round talent. They like him so much in fact that Billy King said Thursday night that if they couldn't have pried Brooks from Boston, they would have taken the 22-year-old Croatian at #27.

They had multiple looks at him. His biggest advocate has been Danko Cvjeticanin, the team's international scout (and fellow Croatian). Based on Cvjeticanin's recommendation, the Nets brought him for a workout with others on June 14 and took a final look Thursday morning in a private workout.

So other than the numbers (second leading scorer in Euroleague at 18 ppg), what's his story. In Croatia, they like him a lot. He is a remarkable athlete, already top scorer in the first phase of the Euroleague last year, said one journalist who's followed him, adding he has the potential to become an "amazing scorer...and he started playing basketball when he was 14!"

He's great once he hits the floor, has desire to win, plays tough and is passionate. He enjoys being the go-to guy, and has hit some big shots already in his career.

"I just liked that he can handle the ball, has size, just how fluid he was on the court," King said. "He moved like a basketball player, and I think he has maturity, too."

He certainly would have gone higher if he hadn't signed with Fenerbahce, but the year in Turkey may not be such a bad thing either. Neven Spahija, the Turkish champs' coach, is regarded as one of the best, if not the best in the Euroleague right now.

Bottom line, says the journalist: Bogdanovic and Wizards pick Jan Vesely played in the same Adriatic league the last two years, and while Vesely is the most athletic European player EVER, Bogdanovic is by far more complete and better overall.

We can't find a Twitter page for Bogdanovic, but we did find a blog, called BLOGdanovic. No, really. It's in Croatian. One other thing about Bogdanovic. He comes from the same small city in Bosnia that produced Zoran Planinic, Mostar. Mostar saw a great deal of war's horrors when Bogdanovic was a toddler. Although it's in Bosnia, it is inhabited by a large number of people who are ethnically Croatian and suffered at the hands of Bosnian Serbs. In fact, the last three European picks of the Nets: Planinic, Mile Ilic and Bogdanovic were all born in Bosnia and left.

"He's a little bit like Kobe"

It would be unfair, to Brooks, to the Nets, to the fans, and certainly to Kobe Bryant to compare the Nets' draft pick, at #25, to Kobe, but that is indeed what Tim Grover, Kobe's agent, did in talking to Chad Ford.

Ford explained the circumstances of the comment in a discussion with Ryen Russillo on Friday. Russillo is very skeptical of Brooks and said he had heard he was a "bad kid" (without explanation) and that he was doing nothing more than "impersonating" Kobe.

What dont you like about this 6'6", 7'1" wingspan athletic ...led the Big East in scoring on a team where he was double teamed every night on a bad team, shot an efficient 49% from the floor

That's not a bad guy to impersonate. If you're going model your game after anyone and you're a two guard...

Tim Grover, who was training MarShon Brooks, who was Kobe Bryant's trainer and Michael Jordan's trainer and Dywane Wade's trainer... Watching him work out, I come up because I'm intrigued by some of the stuff he's doing in a workout. I come up to Tim. He's smiling at me. He says, "who's he remind you of?' I'm sort of thinking, I'll be honest, I'm sort of thinking he reminds me just a little bit of Kobe and before I can say anything, he says to me, 'He's a little bit like Kobe'. He didn't say he's a 'lot like Kobe' or 'he is Kobe'. He didn't say he was Kobe. If he was a lot like Kobe, he would have been a top 10 pick and if we thought he was going to be Kobe, he'd be No. 1, so far ahead of Kyrie Irving, it wouldn't matter.

But I'll say this, I'm going to break my own rule about whether workouts matter, and things like that. I saw him go two on two with Chris Singleton. I saw him going with JaJuan Johnson, I saw him going with Enes Kanter in that Hoops Gym. I've seen a lot of guys over the year go into that gym, a lot of pro's, a lot of Hall of Famers playing in that gym. That kid was killing everybody, including Chris Singleton. He can play. Whether his head's on straight, I don't know. I didn't go do the background check. I heard some of the same stuff. Whether he's going ot be able to adjust to a team or whatever. All those things are legitimate question marks, but at 27, what's the risk in a bad draft?

Ford isn't the only ESPN guy to fall in love with Brooks. Skip Bayless thinks the Nets got the steal of the draft. He tweeting, "Marshon Brooks at 25 easily steal of draft. Has some Kobe in him. 43@GTown! 52 vs. ND! Made for NBA! Will set Nets on fire in NJ (not NY)." We assume that means the the Nets won't have to wait till Brooklyn to see what they got.

And we'd like to congratulate ourselves on getting on the Brooks bandwagon early. We offer our selection of Brooks among our Draft Sleepers. He's what we wrote three weeks back.

Draft Sleeper of the Week - MarShon Brooks

No player in the draft has captured more Nets' fan enthusiasm than MarShon Brooks, the 6'5" shooting guard from Providence...at least among those players who might be there at #27.

There are a number of reasons not to like Brooks as a prospect. At 22 ...23 not long after the start of the season... he's one of the older players in the draft. He has a reputation as being selfish: a black hole on offense, and worse on defense. His teams have never won. At a thin 6'5", he might be too small for the pro game where he's likely to get pushed around a bit more than in the Big East. Besides, the Nets have Anthony Morrow.

Then again...

At 22 and with four years experience, he's just the kind of guy who Billy King has talked about taking, a wing with three or four years experience who can step into the rotation. He is a scorer, period,with a scorer's mentality. He was second in the nation, putting up almost 25 points a game (and in the toughest conference). Not to mention that his 52 points vs. Notre Dame are the most ever in a Big East game. Yes, he's 6'5" but has a 7'1" wingspan and teams pay strength and conditioning coaches a lot of money to bulk up their young players.

That's why a lot of draftniks think he has the most upside of any players in the 2011 Draft, mainly because of that scorers' mentality...and as was shown in the Pre-Draft combine, Brooks is one of the best athletes in the draft. With a 38½-inch vertical, a 10.74-second time in lane agility and a 3.09-second three-quarter court sprint, he surprised people. That vertical, in fact, is an inch and a half higher than Terrence Williams and Damion James scored in their respective combine measurements.

The most optimistic evaluation of Brooks comes from Tim Grover of ATTACK Athletics in Chicago, where the combine was held. As he told Chad Ford, "There's a little bit of Kobe in him, isn't there?" But players with even "a little bit of Kobe in them" don't last til #27. Ford has already moved him from the second round to #19 and he keeps rising.

Jersey connection? He's been working out at Real Gymm in Keyport, on the Raritan Bayshore. That's the best we can do...for the moment. He's scheduled to be in this week for a workout.

Our favorite stat about Brooks is his hand size, the latest measurement out of the Draft Combine. Along with his incredible wing span, Brooks has huge hands, among the biggest at the combine. How big? About 20 per cent bigger than Derrick Favors. And our favorite irony: Brooks refused to work out for two teams: the Celtics who picked him and the Nets, who he'll play for.

Undrafted free agents

Not a lot of action on undrafted free agents...at least not publicly. Last year, at this time, the Nets had deals with Brian Zoubek and Ben Uzoh, giving them partial guarantees of $50,000 and $35,000, respectively. This year, however, the threat of a lockout looms large over everything including free agent signings. Even training camp and summer league deals are held hostage.

One thing several teams have been doing the last few weeks --and which will know accelerate-- is hold free agent mini-camps. Prior to Thursday, players like Joe Alexander and Quincy Douby have been making the rounds of training facilities in hopes og hooking on with an NBA team. Some teams postponed those mini-camps till after the Draft so that undrafted free agents can compete with former pros.

For example, Jemine "Greedy" Peterson, the Brooklyn-born former Providence player who impressed at the Nets group workout, is headed to Miami for a Heat mini-camp. Ravern Johnson of Mississippi State and DeAngelo Casto of Washington State, both undrafted, will attend the Spurs' free agent mini camp next week and Seton Hall's Jeremy Hazell is headed to Atlanta for camp.

Are the Nets having such a mini-camp. They haven't said but reportedly they like Ben Hansbrough of Notre Dame, a 6'3" point guard and Tyler's brother.

Simmons vs. Simmons

We know this is being discussed in a fan post, but we think it deserves more attention. In short, we found the post-Draft Bill Simmons comments on the Deron Williams trade a bit ridiculous and a bit disingenuous. After the draft, Simmons wrote this convoluted analysis of the trade, which if you need reminding was Devin Harris, Favors, the Nets' 2011 first rounder (who turned into Enes Kanter) and the Warriors' 2012 first rounder, protected 1-7...meaning the Jazz may or may not get it next year.

The Williams/Jersey trade: Williams ($1 dollar bill) for Favors (50 cents), a 2011 lottery pick (50 cents), Devin Harris (quarter), and Golden State's partially protected 2012 first-rounder (a quarter right now, but a possible 50-cent piece). So the Nets turned $1.50 of coins into a $1 bill; they felt like they hadto overpay because it was their one chance to acquire paper. If Williams doesn't re-sign there next summer, it immediately becomes the single worst NBA trade since Milwaukee passed on Paul Pierce in the 1998 draft so they could flip the rights to Dirk Nowitzki with another no. 1 pick for Robert Traylor. Meanwhile, the Jazz made out like bandits: They have more money than when they started, and either Favors or their no. 3 pick could easily turn into paper someday. Phenomenal trade by them.

Other than the fact that no one else feels that way, even after the Enes Kanter pick, it's sorta 180 degrees from what Simmons wrote right after the trade, in a far more lyrical moment.. He imagined what Billy King might have said when his Jazz counterpart, Kevin O'Connor, agreed to the deal:

"Really, you're giving us a top-three point guard for a lottery pick that hasn't done anything, a point guard who peaked two years ago and a couple of other picks? Done! Can we call it in right now? Let's call it in. No, we'll call it in! We got this! We're dialing right now…"

Maybe he changed his mind, although didn't say why. It couldn't have been because Favors suddenly became a world-beater (he didn't) in Utah or Harris got healthier (nope) there or Kanter, last seen playing organized ball a year ago, is suddenly Bill Russell or something beyond Kosta Koufos (not really). Or maybe Bill is just writing too much lately and forgets what he wrote.

Strike Two

While everyone was following the NBA talks on a new collective bargaining agreement, there's another labor stoppage on the horizon that could also affect the Nets and their fans. Operating Engineers, one of the city's most powerful construction unions, is threatening to go on strike on Friday, the same day the NBA may go into lockout mode.

A strike by the operating engineers, who run the big cranes, would halt all work at Barclays Center. Danny Massey of Crain's New York, writes "projects that could be halted include Forest City Ratner's Barclays Center in Brooklyn, which employs 1,000 construction workers." How long would they go out and how would it affect the September 28, 2012 opening? The last Operating Engineers' strike shut down construction for a week. If that's all it is, a strike is not likely to affect the arena timetable. Massey reports the Bloomberg administration is trying to get the union and management to avoid a walkout.

The Brooklyn Commute

Truth be told, one thing that's troubling about being a New Jersey fan in Brooklyn is that the commute to games could take some time (less than Yankee Stadium or CitiField) and may be both unpleasant and even confusing with a maze of subway lines with less than spiffy stations.

But just as Barclays Center is rising in Brooklyn, a new transportation complex is rising in Lower Manhattan that will make moving from Jersey to Brooklyn a lot more efficient and pleasant. As part of the post-911 reconstruction, the MTA is building a vast underground concourse linking PATH and the New York Waterways ferry terminals with all nine subway lines that stop at the Barclays Center station beneath the arena. Some aspects of the Lower Manhattan Transportation Concourse will be open in 2013, as the Nets first season ends and most will be done a year later.

Anchoring the new concourse will be the $3.2 billion WTC Transportation center at the northeast corner of the WTC site at Church and Vesey Streets, near where the towers stood. It is going to be spectacular architecturally and will form one end of the concourse between the World Financial Center and the MTA's new Fulton Street Transit Center, a few blocks inland. Through it, pedestrians will have access to the ferry terminals, PATH and 13 subway lines, nine of which continue on to Barclays Center a few stops away. At Fulton Street, where more than 300,000 riders pass through daily, the MTA is reconfiguring the maze of ramps and passageways in another architecturally spectacular setting. The concourse is now structurally complete with only finishing work inside remaining. It will be partially open next year.

Once, it's done here's an animation of what it will look like for a fan connecting from one of the nine lines under the arena to the PATH or ferry terminals. (Of course, you can also just take a bus or train into midtown and get on subways there for a quick four or five station ride to Barclays.)

Final Note: Housekeeping

With the addition of three players, we've done some housekeeping around the site. We've added addresses for Brooks and Williams' twitter pages. Bogdanovic from what we can tell doesn't have one...although he does have that BLOGdanovic blog. None of them have personal websites. That'll change.

We've also updated the Nets Agent page to reflect changes among both veteran players as well as the rookies. Of interest is that Marc Cornstein now represents both Kris Humphries and Bojan Bogdanovic. And no, there's been no announcement about whether Deron Williams has publicly identified his new agent if in fact he has even chosen one.

Finally, we've updated the Nets Trade Assets page to reflect what passes for reality her in Netsland.

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Don't worry, NI, you can always update us on Masha

Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.

NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!

by 3ptChucker on Jun 25, 2011 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

do i detect a hint of sarcasm

"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King

by shea23 on Jun 25, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

im bored

i need trade rumors….

by nets14 on Jun 25, 2011 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

for any trade rumors

consult NBA source 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5’s respective twitter accounts.

That NBA source1 guy did it again last night, and spread rumors about a Ellis to Boston deal being done, LMAO.

by Andres B on Jun 25, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

im source 5 so i will refer to myself

by nets14 on Jun 25, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

www.bleecher'sreport.com

"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King

by shea23 on Jun 25, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Twitter is all atwitter about

a Bynum/Odom + picks for Howard trade. However, no one reliable has backed the story. However, when there’s smoke there’s fire and it wouldnt surprise me one bit to see the Nets miss on Howard. Good draft or not, its hard to imagine Deron Williams not considering Dallas if the Howard isnt even on the table for the Nets.

by chakrabs on Jun 25, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks NI

Who you think we get in FA?

by rundmc00 on Jun 25, 2011 5:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The commute info is key for lots of Nets fans.

What is the estimate time commuting do you think? Time saved?

by Nets! on Jun 25, 2011 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

me neither, just wondering.

the more fans the better. even if prices go up. I want us to truly rival the Knicks.

by Nets! on Jun 25, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ben Hansbrough is ok..

I saw him play against Uconn.. I wasn’t too impressed. He has passion for the game, which also registers as arrogance, and he makes bone headed decisions because of it. What kind of athlete is he? He is like a smaller, less athletic, less psycho version of his brother.. Best projection Luke Dickau

by Nets! on Jun 25, 2011 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Luke Ridnour? An undrafted free agent turning into Luke Ridnour? That’s an absolute steal

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 26, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea, i mixed them up.

Dan Dickau too, but he seems even smaller than Ben Hans, and he was faster.. Luke at least stayed in the league long-ish but while Ben might be more similar to Luke he could end up having a short career like Dan..

by Nets! on Jun 25, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Luke Dickau is Dan's less talented brother

Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.

NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!

by 3ptChucker on Jun 25, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

No to strikers!!!

I'm an MJ FAN (Bulls)... turned into JKIDD FAN (Phoenix-Nets)...
NOW, I'm definitely a NETFAN - Go Deron Williams!

by NETFAN on Jun 25, 2011 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I am excited about Bogdanovic

and Marshon too obviously, but Bogdanovic is kind of amazing for what he has done in Europe at such a young age. Might end up to be better than Rubio, who knows. I hope we keep him and he isn’t just an asset.

by Nets! on Jun 25, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Im more excited about Jordan Williams.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Jun 25, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

werd

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Jun 25, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rather it be someone like Dahntay Jones

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jun 25, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

is there any reason why Deron...

a) wouldn’t have selected new representation… or
b) not made it public if he has made a decision?

its a given that the CBA will expire before we get the chance to even offer a contract extension… yet i hear a lot about how the lock-out will only hurt our chances, simply because a winning team will be our best selling point to deron and any other FA’s…

by Chakroot on Jun 25, 2011 6:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess Deron...

expects a lock out so there is no hurry for an agent.

by nets1 on Jun 25, 2011 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

wow, fantastic write-up. Thanks NI!!

While I’m waiting for more rumors to sprout, I saw that Netsarescorching is starting to come up with nicknames for Bojan Bogdanovic so I’m going to join in the fun. I’m going to hold off on Jordan Williams, but here’s what I’m thinking for the other two:

MarShon Brooks: Mars Bars
Bojan Bogdanovic: BoBo (got that from NAS), Big Bob, Boji

and I’m spent. clearly I am not the most creative person out there

by calvinbw on Jun 25, 2011 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah...

I’m liking “The Dreaded” for MarShon Brooks. I think that can stick.

If you're interested, you can follow me @TokenNBR.

by Dopeness on Jun 25, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Knicks fans would love to have him.

dUH dReAdEDzZ!

http://otrbasketball.com/forums
www.youtube.com/TheBronxBrooklyn
Yankees-Nets-Broncos

by OTRWaldo on Jun 25, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Marshon brooks had a 38.5 vertical supposedly an inch and a half highier than

t-will? wow he didnt look like he had hops in his highlights … damn i can just see it now dwill to brooks for the oop, oh yeah

oh wall2kingjames it would be nice if you posted links when you are sharing rumors, it helps add to the validity of your posts

speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!

by Mike28Live on Jun 25, 2011 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

side note.. NI just because there may be a lockout, doesnt mean NETSDAILY

gets a pass. its your job to keep us properly informed about the “Daily” events of Nets basketball. So with all due respect do ya job.

ps nice piece above, VERY informative!

speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!

by Mike28Live on Jun 25, 2011 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Job?

are you paying him? lol

by bling890 on Jun 25, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

no,but some one is, i assume he is doing this for free

speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!

by Mike28Live on Jun 25, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marshon working out against some other prospects before the draft

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGxfQ6LPhzU

He’s in the gray shirt and drains the first shot from deep.

I was listening to a podcast and Chad Ford said that Marshon killed everyone in the workouts he saw.

"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"

by strange-brew on Jun 25, 2011 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

he passed the ball more than i expected him to.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Jun 25, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly I would take Brooks over

Kemba Walker and Jimmer, taller, longer arms, more athletic, better offensive game, and room to fill out physically, also has the ability to affect the defensive end way more. I think we got more than a steal when its all said and done, he makes moves that NBA veterans make when they are starting to loose there athleticism. With some coaching he will be a problem, because he’s fluid with the basketball and has great body control.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jun 25, 2011 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I remember hearing recently that the Barclays Center construction was ahead of schedule

any idea on how far ahead of schedule it is? That might provide a little breathing room if the workers do indeed go on strike.

by rootcactus on Jun 25, 2011 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Not sure the knock on Brooks his bad attitude is that he may be arrogant? lol

But this is why having Deron is important as well he will respect him, Devin not so much. These other guys in the draft can’t score for there lives and there being touted as great picks when his dude is averaging 25 in the big east, dropping 52 and 44. I have no doubt avery and this coaching staff will get him to playing defense, even Morrow tried as hard as he could but doesn’t have the physical tools that Brooks has. But its funny to me the eye test says he should have been top 10 I saw a lot of players with the ceiling of Tony allen in this draft which isn’t a bad thing, while the other scorers were all around 6’2.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jun 25, 2011 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder if Jordan Williams will have sort of a Udonis Haslim

Rebirth with his weight loss, more athletic than I thought and his soft hands will be a dream for Deron and Farmar.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jun 25, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he can potentially be a double-double guy in the NBA

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Jun 25, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

losing too much weight can throw off your game though..

I was kinda big for a while after college and slimmed down—gained muscle too— however the weight Ioss was significant in changing my rebounding and boxing out. I could jump higher and dunk a tennis ball, so I gained a skill, and I overall much faster, but its all relative. I mean, Jordan Williams could max out as an average athlete making him just an average undersized player who can’t box out like he used to. Not saying thats what WILL happen, just saying that weight loss isn’t always good. Hopefully he replaces his weight loss with muscle gain.

by Nets! on Jun 25, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

In an interview,

he said he was working on losing all the fat first, and gaining more muscle. He’s a tough worker.

by Jbller3 on Jun 25, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

J-Will was killing the bigs at the combine

I did not know who he was and didn’t care but he played the best.

by Zartan on Jun 25, 2011 8:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51H6Li1Nb3o&feature=related

dropping buckets like nothing.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Jun 25, 2011 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Simmons wtf

Total opposite of what he said post deadline SMH. Make up your mind. Don’t even think that was a good pick for the jazz who are now way too loaded in the frontcourt.

"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King

by shea23 on Jun 25, 2011 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

yea i agree about Simmons...

But the Jazz are def going to try to make a trade now.. I dont hate on the Jazz for the trade. It was a good trade for both teams. Both teams won in my eyes. Isn’t that ok to say?

by Nets! on Jun 25, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jazz thought they were going to land a PG

Clowns, their stupidity landed us Brooks. I’m good!

by Zartan on Jun 25, 2011 8:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

A couple of things..

1) NetIncome, great job, as always…

2) Hansbrough..? Has Uzoh fallen off the face of the earth..?

3) I’m looking forward to seeing what Jordan Williams can do, but can anybody tell me with a straight face that he has more upside than Brandon Wright..? I hope he is offered a one year deal at a cool mil.

4) I see NO reason to resign Sasha, or spend big buck’s on a SG, as Morrow and Brooks should receive most of the minutes..

5) Bill Simmons is a MORON. What the heck is in the municipal water supply in Bristol. DANG.

by BubbaMcBubba on Jun 25, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Jordan Williams

Is a much better prospect than Wright in the fact that he isn’t frail and knows his position and game, as well as has soft hands and a post game, rebounds as well as a little jumper. Wright still doesn’t know who he is at this point in his career and isn’t really good at anything like he still hasn’t been taught yet.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jun 25, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 Williams looks like an old school PF...

I’m tired of these new school, stretch PF’s…

by M I K E on Jun 25, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn Nets and Proky received some shine on Politico

http://www.politico.com/

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jun 25, 2011 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

The more I study the Nets 2011 draft...

the more I like it.

Billy King tried to address our three biggest needs at SG, SF and PF.

The guys he drafted seem to do what they are advertise to do.

Smart, solid, sound draft and he did it with only starting with the #27 + #36 picks.

Three cheers for Billy King !!!

by M I K E on Jun 25, 2011 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

The HoopsReport website...

NEW JERSEY – Marshon Brooks – A
The Nets needed a young scoring wing, and to get it this deep in the draft is incredible. Marshon Brooks has star potential, so the Nets got an absolute steal here.

by M I K E on Jun 25, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting
DevonNBA Devon Alexandre
Reports: Avery Johnson says Marshon Brooks could start for the #Nets next year.
1 hour ago

Also

Jwilliams20 Jordan Williams
“@TKSmoove: @Jwilliams20 what jersey number u wearing as a net?” Idk yet bro…either 15 or 20
33 minutes ago

Slow news day haha.

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

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by Claud on Jun 25, 2011 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

if that aj quote is any where near true... then dwill is gone, "proven vets"

was what dwill asked for. not rookies,

speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!

by Mike28Live on Jun 25, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

sounds like someones not a fan of Kobe Jr. or you just have a really sunny disposition of the Nets future.. .. .

dunno why and how you can say Dwill you leave if Marshon started. Regardless of whether or not he really would start (a) I don’t think it would conclude DWill would leave (b) there are other players to be had to satisfy being considered ’proven vets". Anyway, its prob just a little fire under Anthony Morrows butt to continue to work his game to the max in the off season. EIther way Dwill already said its a dream to play with Anthony Morrow so I doubt he would leave if a really talented rookie started over him—Dwill would then probably realize wow this other kid is even BETTER than Morrow.

by Nets! on Jun 25, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you out of your mind?

There’s currently a lockout and no free agency right now. However, there was a draft. Its not even possible to bring in proven vets, unless you’re willing to blow draft picks to bring in vets.

by chakrabs on Jun 25, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope he goes with a power #

Favors 14 was like Jordans 45. I’m hoping Brooks land a marketable #, that will be key to being a star.

by Zartan on Jun 25, 2011 8:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Damn I wanted Williams to wear #1. lol

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Jun 25, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

More T-Will jerseys Andy?

"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"

by aunt-B on Jun 25, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about 36?

Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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by netsareboss on Jun 25, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

15 should be retired

let the kid take number 20, since I expect Sasha will be taking his talents elsewhere.

by Andres B on Jun 26, 2011 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure if I want 15 retired for Vince… like I guess not, he doesn’t deserve to be up there with the other guys. But, I’d feel somewhat uncomfortable seeing another guy wear 15 out there…

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 26, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have a really good feeling Brooks end up starting to start the year. Morrow becomes the ideal 6th man.

Dwill/?/Josh Smith/Humphries/Superman

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by i says on Jun 25, 2011 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Scottie Reynolds

Bring the first team all-american in for a look…no downside in that

by fuldsadick on Jun 27, 2011 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

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