Nolan Smith Moving Into Nets Slot(s) As Pace of Mock Drafts Intensifies
by Net Income on Jun 21, 2011 12:14 PM EDT
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PrintFinally, there is some clarity in the mock drafts...and his name is Nolan Smith.
In the latest mocks from Draft Express, NBADraft.net and Sports Illustrated, the Nets wind up with Smith, the 6'4" point (maybe combo) guard from Duke. In both Draft Express and NBADraft, the Nets take Smith with the 36th pick while in Sports Illustrated, he goes at #27.
Last week, Fred Kerber reported that Smith, a first team All-American, was among those at the top of the Nets' list at # 27 along with Richmond's Justin Harper and Georgia Tech's Iman Shumpert. He also noted that the Nets would love to see Nikola Vucevic, the only legitimate seven-footer in the draft, drop to them, but that's getting highly unlikely as the USC center is now at the gates of the lottery.
Other players tapped by the mocks for the Nets first round pick include Chandler Parsons, Florida's 6'10" point forward (Draft Express); Reggie Jackson, Boston College's point guard (ESPN); Charles Jenkins, Hofstra' 6'3" shooting guard (NBC Sports); Davis Bertans, The 18-year-old Latvia sharpshooter (NBA Draft.net); Kyle Singler, the cerebral Duke SF (Athlon Sports); Tyler Honeycutt, the 6'8" UCLA forward (Pro Basketball News) and Harper (SB Nation). In ESPN's first second round mock, the Nets take Bojan Bogdanovic, 6'7" SG out of Croatia.
And yes, it is subject to change.
- 2011 Mock Draft - Jonathan Givony - Draft Express
- 2011 Mock Draft - Aran Smith - NBADraft.net
- 2011 NBA draft: Chad Ford's NBA Mock Draft 6.0 - Chad Ford - ESPN
- 2011 NBA Mock Draft: It's Draft Week, And We've Reached Panic Mode - Tom Ziller - SB Nation
- 2011 mock draft 4.0 - Jonathan Givony - Yahoo! Sports
- 2011 Mock Draft 3.0 - Sam Amick - Sports Illustrated
- 2011 Mock: Kanter rises as Top 3 prize - Tony Mejia - Pro Basketball News
- 2011 NBA Mock Draft - 6.0 - Steve Alexander - NBC Sports
- Athlon's 2011 NBA Mock Draft - Athlon Sports
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He's alright but we don't need point guards!
by Gr8tness on Jun 21, 2011 12:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Atlanta Hawks need a point guard *cough*
by dwill8brooklynbound on Jun 21, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
All this time I though we were looking for high I.Q guys
Does the Hawks have any high IQ guys?
by Zartan on Jun 21, 2011 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not for nothing
But I highly doubt the mock drafts are thinking strategically for the Nets trade assets.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
I just don’t see Smith as BPA or need.
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
But he could also be
Least Flawed Player Available
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
I think Smith is a relatively safe pick when you’re picking that late, but I just don’t think there’s much upside with him. I’d be very surprised if he was ever more than the 2nd or 3rd guy off the bench.
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
Fair point. We’ll see, but I’ll be surprised if he turns out to be the BPA
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
Bush and strategy shouldn't go together
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
oh haha lol
didnt even notice that
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
this is a slippery slope
and i don’t think you’re prepared for the opposition’s take on the situation if you’re coming out on Nets Daily, supporting the Bush administration
by Chakroot on Jun 21, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Honestly I really could care less about the opposition’s view, nor about a political discussion.
But if the people in this country look at things from an unbiased perspective – they will realize that the current government has no hope or plan of improving the economy and everything they have tried over the past 2 years was very short sighted and not very well thought out nor implemented.
Barney Frank writing the legislation to revamp banking practices in the US and then stating that banks should not earn profits and should simply be an intermediary for lending is frightening. Nobody is going to take risk (or work) without being compensated.
this is nets daily not white house daily
bruce ratner and kiki created hell in new jersey
even though the nets still suck prokhorov and co have made huge strides to brinigin the nets back to level ground
give prokhorov and co a level ground to start with and they are in good shape already
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 21, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
you're blaming the current administration...
for not figuring out the “quick fix” to solve all the problems caused by the previous administration.
the foreign banks & Federal reserve are the problem.
Ron Paul 2012 :)
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
also, think big picture
not who will be on the roster 2 days from now
imagine something extremely witty here
Tradez?
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Jun 21, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not?
If you can draft a guy that will give you almost what Farmar gives you for the 14 backup minutes per game behind DWill, for $3+mil less per season, you take said PG & move Farmar.
We will if Farmar is gone...
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Hawks do.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Jun 21, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think it is if Josh Smith lists the Nets as team hed like to be traded to.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Jun 21, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a rumor. Melo had the nets on his list to.. Or did he?
And even if we were I don’t see how Nolan smith becomes the deal maker..
by Gr8tness on Jun 21, 2011 12:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Melo had said he was expecting to be traded to the Nets.
And if I am not mistaken he was going to sign.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Jun 21, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Right on both accounts
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Josh Smith has no say
He’s not about to become a free agent that the Hawks must trade or lose. He’s signed up, any team that acquires him will acquire him for a couple years.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
What Smith wants is completely irrelevant. Hawks have absolutely no reason to accommodate anything other than the best offer.
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
If he does and hawks take,
Outlaw,Farmer and maybe a pick(2011), I wouldnt mind bringing Josh in.
by Zartan on Jun 21, 2011 4:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
dynamically, strategically meaning
combo guard. can play DWILL/SMITH together, DWILL/Farmar together. at 6’4 smith has nice size
imagine something extremely witty here
I'm not mocking anybody...
but these mock drafts are making a mockery out of draft day…
by M I K E on Jun 21, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
+1
All the crappy players flying all around the draft and the good players not even being mentioned. Obviously GMs are all hiding their cards leading everyone to believe one thing then the next day they say something else which leads everyone to believe something else.
by Gr8tness on Jun 21, 2011 12:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
take him
Then farmar for j smoove?
NJN NYG NJD NYY
by Ironist973 on Jun 21, 2011 12:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
or something?
I don’t understand it
NJN NYG NJD NYY
by Ironist973 on Jun 21, 2011 12:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Whatever moves me make we just have to set ourselves up nicely
For when Lebron and Bosh are free agents in 5 years.
nolan smith is a good pick.
Vucevic i want…but he wont be there at 27.
Honeycutt/Butler/Parsons/Harper might.
No Mirotic…come on.
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
I'm on board for Harper . Seems like by far the best player at 27.
by Gr8tness on Jun 21, 2011 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I saw harper or honeycutt
but wouldnt be opposed to parsons either. Based on the mocks, we may have a shot at Nolan in the 2nd round, which is fine by me.
With the nets so involved with the Springfield armor
A guy like Nolan smith and the other pick we have can be sent to the d league for some extra time and to show case for other teams in need of a point guard.
by sour grapes on Jun 21, 2011 12:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Especially with the looming lock out
by sour grapes on Jun 21, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So i see the Loud and Proud section popped up on the Nets Facebook page today lol
"I love my Ducks (wait 'til you see my O)"
Loud and proud tickets are back. Pending a horrible trade and the lockout
I will be getting my tickets soon!
by Gr8tness on Jun 21, 2011 12:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'd hold off for a better offer
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Not if it's in the new stadium
This is not Jersey.
by Zartan on Jun 21, 2011 6:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wish we could move up and grab either Alec Burks or Tristan Thompson, and I’d rather if the Nets stayed put just grab Honeycutt, or Malcolm Lee. But I like Nolan Smith so whatever.
Alek would be great. I believe he's the best SG in the draft.
I’m pretty sure he goes top 10 tho.
by Gr8tness on Jun 21, 2011 12:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If I was JaJuan Johnson I'd be pissed
What has he done to get overlooked by EVERYONE in this process?
He’s skinny
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
There are countless skinny players who are successful in the league
For example: I’m skinny and I’m one of the best players in the league.
But seriously – Garnett, Chandler? These guys are thin dudes. Lopez? A thin dude.
Who ? Mock drafts ?
This may help us land a quality player. Never understood why ppl listen to drafts. You make your own board and draft from there. Only teams that go buy the mocks get bad picks.
by Zartan on Jun 21, 2011 6:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it's around this time of the year that i take NetsDaily for granted....
the insane amount of rumors, trade talks, mock drafts and talent “evaluaters” losing their minds… it’d be too much for one fan to handle, if not for the efforts of everyone at NetsDaily.
thanks for keeping us up-to-date, and keeping the Nets fanbase as one of the most involved and well-informed in the league
by Chakroot on Jun 21, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hear, Hear!!
Thanks for an amazing blog. Your site is addictive this time of the year.
by Mookie Blaylock on Jun 21, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
COme on Mike…The NBA draft is exciting
Keep it together.
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
Isn't today decision day for the lock-out?
Any word on that?
by Gr8tness on Jun 21, 2011 12:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
This makes a lot of sense to me
except he doesn’t fill a need. But there will be trades.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
At that 2nd round
I think you forget all about needs. You focus on getting an NBA player. 85% of 2nd rounders won’t be NBA players, as long as you get someone who won’t be out of the league at the end of the year, you’ve won
Yes, I agree with you
I like Smith’s stability, good pedigree, ability to fill in on short notice, etc.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
Like last year you picked up Ben uzoh
by Gr8tness on Jun 21, 2011 12:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
NI, does the d-league still play if there's a lockout?
I’m not sure how that works if their players are union or not
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Jun 21, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions
the veags d-league has already been cancelled
so i assume orlando summer league will follow suit
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 21, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Vegas summer league. Summer league and d-league are not the same thing
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
i wish i could delete
i misinterpreted because i am so used to the rookies who cant make it being in both anyway
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 21, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Going to the draft
It’ll be awesome to witness a great trade the Nets make live….. I can dream lol.
D-Will!!!!!!
Enjoy!
Seems as if a number of Nets fans are going. It will interesting to see Nets fans vs. Knicks fans.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
I'm going
I’m going with my brother. I’m a hardcore Nets fan, he’s more casual, but we’ll be representing for sure.
I hope something big goes down for us while we’re there also! Come on BK, work your magic!
You guys can find me there in my throwback, grey Kenyon Martin jersey.
Kenyon is draft good luck charm. Can’t wait.
Throwback
I might wear my red Kidd throwback that says “New Jersey” on it! If not, will def wear a Nets hat.
My brother and I will be an odd couple – a middle aged looking white guy in some form of Nets gear (me) and a 20’s looking spanish guy in “trendy” clothes (who wouldn’t be caught dead in Nets gear). LOL
-Matt
I will be there in my Authentic DWill Jersey!! With my hot Fiancee!! lol
by Rp15x on Jun 21, 2011 1:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Throwback too...
The Doctor!
Trying to decide between Home or Away…
by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on Jun 21, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
We should all meet up for a beer at the Rock!
by Rp15x on Jun 21, 2011 4:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If we stay at 27, I’m looking for Honeycutt, Selby, or Harper.
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
agreed
i would add.
Bertans, Mirotic, Butler and Parsons.
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
Admittedly I haven’t looks much into those guys, except for Bertans (and I’m still not sure what Bertans contract looks like and when he’ll be in the NBA. What can you tell me about the other 3? When will Mirotic be in the NBA?
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
Mirotic surprisingly elected to keep his name in the draft after telling everyone for months that he would withdraw. Having recently signed a lucrative extension with Real Madrid until 2015, the Montenegrin native is years away from stepping foot on an NBA court. Nevertheless, he’s a lottery=caliber talent who harbors NBA aspirations, which could make him a significant asset in two or three years.
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
Mirotic is rumored to have gotten a "promise" from the Thunder at #24...
That’s why he elected to stay in draft…
If mirotic goes at 24…than someone unexpected might be there at 27.
maybe honeycutt
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
Is that your final word?...
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
Would be nice if Lakers did this and get rid of bynum
As Minnesota continues search for high-level player in exchange for No. 2 pick, source says T-Wolves made offer for Lakers C Andrew Bynum.
chances of them doing that before the dwight situation is settled are slim to none
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Jun 21, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Basically Minnesotta is open for business
AlexKennedyNBA: Minnesota has called just about every team in the league and made an offer of some sort. That’s where all of these rumors are coming from.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
I just read that minny has no interest in trading that #2 pick.
Although they have no need for another PF.
by Gr8tness on Jun 21, 2011 1:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Where did you read that? All I’ve read is that they’ve offered the pick to just about everybody in the league
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
That's why it's shocking to me.
And it was a recent article on realgm.com
by Gr8tness on Jun 21, 2011 1:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
im with u
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
The only real big thing happening today...
was Andy’s comment on the last thread…
I think if anything big happens it will be on draft day.
I think it’s impossible to mock this draft as so many wild cards in the air.
I would be psyched if we ended up with Faried or Singleton – which is more realistic than might otherwise appear – as I think we are going to be active with moving up (or buying a pick). Seems a handful of picks will be for sale.
I'd take a PG like Darius Morris
over Nolan Smith, though he seems to be headed to the Rockets at 23. I’ve seen D-Mo play for 2 years at Michigan and he has all the physical and intagible tools to be a great point guard. His main question marks are his long-range shot and improving his ability to go left (he has a propensity to only go right on his drives). He’s the kinda player that could blossom under the tutelage of Deron because he has elite vision and ball-handeling already, and showed great leadership, but D-Will could show him how to truly make the most of his talents.
Unless the PG is far and away the BPA, I don’t see why take him in the first place
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
i agree
this was more of a response to “if we take a pg..” I will agree with others that the nets drafting a PG means there’s a trade coming involving whoever we draft or Jordan Farmar cuz having that many PGs under contract is rather unnecessary
are u kidding?
Nolan smith was acc player of the year and lead his team to a title
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_Smith
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jun 21, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
College success doesn’t always translate to NBA success. The two best players in the Big East this season probably won’t even be drafted (Hansbrough, Hardy).
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
yeah ok
Ill take a duke PG over a michigan PG any day of the week
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jun 21, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Considering Jalen Rose and Jamal Crawford have had better careers than any Duke PG
drafted in the last 20 years – sure
what's your point?
Sure Jay Will and Duhon won NCAA titles, but they havent produced squat in the NBA.
JWil got hurt and Duhon is still playing
How many Michigan pgs are in the NBA?
its not the school its the program
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jun 21, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
So I take it you wouldn’t have drafted Derrick Rose? Not a whole lot of Memphis PGs in the league outside of Rose.
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
Good thing you’re not a GM if you’d seriously draft a player based on what college they went to.
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
seriously? If Smith came out last year he would have been top ten easy
2010 NCAA Champion
2011 ACC Player Of The Year
2011 First Team All American
2011 First Team All-ACC
2011 First Team All-ACC Defensive Team
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jun 21, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
This draft is much weaker than last year’s by all accounts, right? So if Smith would have been a top 10 pick last year, why is he a borderline first rounder this year?
Stop listing college accolades, it’s irrelevant. Scottie Reynolds was an all american, went undrafted and spent the year in the d-league. College success doesn’t always translate and it’s ridiculous to argue solely on the merit of college accolades.
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
and he did most of his work his senior year
He didnt achieve crap prior to this season (except being on a title winner). All his individual accolades were 2011. I dont know where you’re getting this thinking he’d be a lottery pick just cuz he was on that roster. In fact, if Kyrie didn’t get hurt, he’d prolly be going late 2nd or undrafted right now.
odds are the Nets will draft Nolan before Morris
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jun 21, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It's likely a moot point since many have Morris going 23rd to Houston,
but I just feel like he has a higher a ceiling and the motivation to reach it than Nolan. Nolan is likely to contribute more right away, but Darius has the kind of skills that are uncoachable. I respect your opinion, but disagree with your metrics of assessment in this case.
News Flash!
Netsdaily Bloggers may be a little delusional due to years of watching bad basketball and management
JSmith is a reality. ATL knows he’s not happy and so does the rest of the league, so he may come cheap
Lopez will only be traded for Dwight. Period
Billy King is the draft day trade master so I expect the Nets to be active
Teams are shoppin picks just like BK so sit tight its a long rollercoaster
are you implying
you believe the Nets can get him?
by JerseysFinest. on Jun 21, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yes
remember how lopsided the Pau Gasol trade was?
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jun 21, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Nets don't have the assets to trade straight up tho
Unless Atlanta willingly takes Outlaw.
And they apparently want to save green.
They want financial relief. I hope King works his magic
by JerseysFinest. on Jun 21, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa whoa whoa
I’ve been suggesting this earlier, I realize it takes more than two teams.
The real issue in this is finding the facilitator of this deal.
by JerseysFinest. on Jun 21, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice fanpost over at Posting & Toasting about Dwight Howard. Check it out.
http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2011/6/18/2231202/a-breakdown-of-dwight-howards-future
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
Uh, no. Thats why it is called
“Cool Idea Bro, but Really?”
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Jun 21, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
O/T
But I forgot today is a huge day in determining if there will be further talks regarding a new CBA. The players are submitting a formal proposal today.
Sources say the players’ most recent proposal included an offer to accept less than 50 percent of additional revenues beyond a certain point in the new CBA. For example, revenues are expected to come in at close to $3.8 billion when the books are completed on the 2010-11 season, so the players essentially proposed keeping their current 57 percent of BRI (basketball-related income) up to that threshold while giving the owners more than 50 percent on revenues beyond that. The owners have yet to move off their insistence on excluding about $900 million of revenues from the players’ share and a 50-50 split after owners pocket the difference. To call such a proposal 50-50 is less than half genuine.
At that point, the debate will shift to finding a realistic middle ground that will inspire the players to give up something significant, as well as the issue that should’ve been addressed more heartily from the beginning: revenue sharing. Should teams like the Knicks, Lakers, Bulls and Nets (whose revenue picture improves dramatically with a move to Brooklyn) share revenues from lucrative local TV deals that in some cases exceed the total net revenues of some smaller-market counterparts? They’ll be reluctant, but doing so would be better than losing hundreds of millions in revenues during a lockout. Should owners regret the missed opportunity to turn a struggling franchise, Sacramento, into a profitable one simply by letting the Maloofs move to Anaheim? Will the low-revenue teams ever trust the high-revenue teams to level the playing field — regardless of how much the players are paid?
A Nets mention.
me neither.
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
Minnisota honestly has the strangest GM.
One minute theyre saying were not trading our #2 pick and then 5 minutes you see another trade rumor come on. It’s happened for like the third time.
by Gr8tness on Jun 21, 2011 1:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He should've accepted
the Pacers deal, Hibbert and the 15th for the second? That’s a great deal.
by JerseysFinest. on Jun 21, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It's alright. Hes still shopping as you can see he found a better C in Bynum.
by Gr8tness on Jun 21, 2011 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
whatever his mental problems are
i’m sure they can’t be as bad as darko. dude is a textbook nutjob.
I liked the Raptors one
DeRozan and 5 for Flynn and 2
That really good
Derozan who has a J now >>> Flynn and u still get the 5th pick.
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
One things for certain.
Next years ROY race will be interesting.
by Gr8tness on Jun 21, 2011 1:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
first year in a while
that there’s been no real favorites. there are easily 10 guys who could win it that wouldn’t shock me.
So much for that Minny rumor. Berger:
You can wipe the Pau Gasol-to-Minnesota rumor from your memory banks. “Not happening,” says a source. #NBA #draft/blockquote>
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
Pau Gasol is 10x better than Love
Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre
by King Henry the 2nd on Jun 21, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Love is 22 years old. Gasol is 30.
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
Walter Football mock draft says this about our pick...
Pick #27…New Jersey Nets: Josh Selby, G, Kansas, 6-3, Fr.
“While New Jersey could use help at power forward since Kris Humphries is a free agent and they dealt Derrick Favors and Troy Murphy at the deadline, it might be hard for them to pass on a talent like Josh Selby. Deron Williams is entering the final year of his deal, so grabbing a young point guard provides insurance in case Williams does not re-sign with the team. Plus, there will be plenty of quality power forwards available when the Nets pick at No. 36.”
If d-will don't re-sign Mr Josh Shelby
is not going to save our franchise.
Another wack-job mockery.
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
…………………….what do you expect our draft pick to do? Obviously we’re not drafting a franchise savior at 27, so you get the best prospect you can.
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
not something we have 4 of.
a sf a sg a pf a c
BUT WHY A PG _
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Selby projects to a 6th man combo guard role. Something like a Jason Terry
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
Per Woj
Cleveland’s trying to get a 3rd first round pick — in the 20’s — dangling its two second rounders (32 and 54) and maybe cash, sources say.
Why not James, 27th pick for 32nd 54th and Hickson
Then maybe we could give the Hawks Hickson for Smith?
Even if we dont want Hickson, we should look into this trade, we get ourselves and extra pick just for droping back 5 spots.
That would solve our
Hump problem
Hump at $7 mill or Hickson at $2.5 mil?
Hickson is better all around. He is great off the pick and roll, he can post up and he has a decent midrange jumper.
Hump is going to be distracted especially when he confirms that his HOT AMAZING future wife is freaking other guys in the NBA and NFL.
Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement
Horrible deal for Cleveland. Moving up 5 spots in the bottom of the draft is obviously not worth the difference between James and Hickson
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
Thats why I also said even if we dont get Hickson its something to look into. It said they were looking to get into the 20’s so even if we moved back 5 spots, it might be worth it to just gain an extra pick that could be sent to Springfield.
You could just buy an extra pick in the 2nd round fairly easily.
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
Nets get smith 54th pick
Cavs get 27th pick James
Hawks get hickson 32 pick cash
Yea I think were murdering the hawks and cavs in my proposal?
by Wall2KingJames on Jun 21, 2011 4:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i wish Bondy and Al weren’t so quiet right now, seems like they haven’t been reporting much about offseason or draft
A good thing
Avery has always said the quieter the better, always seems to work that way unless were dealing with the Nuggets.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
There was a mistake
Nolan Smith moved into Jazz slot, not Nets
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
by netsareboss on Jun 21, 2011 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I wonder when this joke will wear out...
Don’t mind it yet though.
by Anthony Perez on Jun 21, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
if u gonna post stuff like this at least post rhe source of your info
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
by Mike28Live on Jun 21, 2011 4:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good news for teams willing to spend
Woj:
Stern: “We’ve modified proposal to a flex cap, where some teams can go above it, some can go below it…”
Now the Knicks can afford Deron ?
Oh well…back to the drawing board.
I wonder if Travis can play PG ? He sure has the lateral quickness part down.
by M I K E on Jun 21, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I still dont see how they can afford a third max
Amare – $20 Mil
Melo – $20 Mill
Total – $40 Mill
$62 mil – $40 Mill = $20 mill – $17 mil Dwill/CP3 = $3 mill.
That is a lot of veteran minimums there.
Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement
LOL
$22 mil – $17 mil = $5 Mill
Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement
Fail lol Math has been a fail today.
They can dump billups come 2012 and sign cp3 no? thats like 11 mill.
somehow knicks fans came up with 10 mill to sign a center and bring billups back for a vets min.
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Any of you guys remember this ? And we thought it was only our team that didn't get any respect. (LOL)
Nets Daily Moves To SB Nation
by Mike Prada • Mar 4, 2010 11:17 AM EST
If you’re an avid reader of NBA blogs, you’ve definitely heard of Nets Daily. If you’re not, you’d probably scoff at there being fans of a team that’s now 6-54.
But those fans exist, and most of them congregate on Nets Daily to curse out Yi Jianlian, praise Brook Lopez and ponder the effect of having a crazy new Russian owner. As of today, Nets Daily is officially a part of the SB Nation platform, so go check it out when you get a chance.
If you’re a Nets fan, you’ll love having the ability to share your misery with people like yourself. If you’re not a Nets fan, well, it’s fun to read a nearly unanimous lack of support for Yi. Either way, it’s a win, or, in other words, something the Nets don’t do very often. HEY-YO!
Berger:
Stern says cap “target” is $62 million per team, with a max above that to allow for exceptions such as the Bird exception." #NBA
Thats good.
I dont think there will a massive lock-out where games will be missed.
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
if there's a $62M cap
it means th¡at this summer we’ll have $4M more than initially expected, right?
Yup which is GREAT for us 23 million in cap space can go a long way.
We got morrow for 4 mill no reason we cant pick up another good role player with another 4 mill.
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
DAMN. in cap space?!
we’re screwed.
Billy and Prokhy and Jay-z and yormark better start selling free agents on the Nets ASAP
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
you want to play in indiana
or with dwill and the big boys in the BK ?
imagine something extremely witty here
They have a granger and hibbert combo. pretty enticing.
but yea i’m sure with a lil convincing we can nab a whole bunch of good players.
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
They are also willing to part with Hibbert and their 15th pick
for Minnesota’s #2 so I’m not so sure how enticing Roy is to them.
by D Will to Succeed on Jun 21, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
granger, hibbert
paul geroge, darren collison, hansborough, aj price who came on in the playoffs
ford and danthay jones who can be flipped for something
brandon rush.
free agents: foster, dunleavy, mcroberts
only useless piece they have is posey. they played chicago close every game in the playoffs. they arent as appealing but if a player wanted to push them further in the playoffs i dont see how they are unattractive in that aspect
first: they need to bring vogel back
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 21, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You've probably never watched south park
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I've watched every episode of South Park
I’m not getting what your point is.
by BrooksBridges11 on Jun 21, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
We have 23 million in cap space, Indiana has 34 million in cap.
LAMEEEEEE
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Would FA's rather play
with Granger or D-Will/Lopez?
by BrooksBridges11 on Jun 21, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And Prokorov as owner
I think we are by far the more attractive option for FA.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Jun 21, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
what if ur from Indy?
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
Then again...
Nets are boss
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
With 34 mill you can hand out
nearly 5, 7 million dollar contracts or overpay for any player you want. I’m saying it may be a player we want.
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Who’s going to want to play in indiana
by Wall2KingJames on Jun 21, 2011 4:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Also means Knicks could sign CP3
Of course they’d have to shell out minimums to the rest of the players I think.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
NOOOOOOOOOOOO CP3 SHALL NOT GO TO THE KNICKS
I will make sure of it
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
NOT ME
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Jun 21, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
great player. Just has buy out issues.
i’d take the risk 99 times out of 100 if there’s no one better available.
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Stern says new deal would guarantee players $2 billion in annual salaries over 10 year deal. “Our best shot ..” to get a deal done.
UberSocial • 6/21/11 3:32 PM
NBA working hard to avoid lockout. Good news.
It's all up to what David Stern wants...
There are 30 owners in the NBA but Stern tells them what to do for the most part and they usually step in line. Stern in a way owns the NBA…
$2bill annually =
$66.7mil annually per team. Not surprisingly, that’s right around what the luxury tax threshold has been.
+1 nets +1 nets The Circle of Nets Basketball
More cap, richer owner = WIN
WIN=better players,play-offs
PLAYOFFS= huge fanbase, more money
MORE MONEY=more cap,richer owner
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This "flex cap" sound fishy to me...
Rich teams can spend more and poor teams can spend less ?
Can some please explain too me what this modified flex cap really means.
There must be alot more to these sound bites coming from Stern that meets the ear…
The Cubs have one of the highest payrolls in
all of baseball.
by BrooksBridges11 on Jun 21, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
it doesnt matter
high payrolls only guarantee perennial playoff appearances due to the fact you normally blow it on good players
but you still have teams like the rangers, giants, angels, rockies, cardinals, tigers, rays, marlins, etc who make it but we should not compare since only 8/30 teams make the MLB playoffs
plus you still have teams like the mets, cubs, mariners blowing money on adrian beltre, dodgers on manny ramirez, giants on zito, red sox on matszusaka
and then you have your orioles, padres, pirates, athletics, aka teams who need s prolonged strecth of succes to build up a fanbase to generate revenue to keep overpaid talent around
bottom line it all comes down to the front office and owners. having money only gets you so far but it helps when your owner is willing to spend
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 21, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
What's been tweeted
-$62mil cap. You can exceed it by virtue of exceptions like the Bird exception.
-Owners have been overwhelming in favor of eliminating the mid-level exception.
-$2bil per year in salaries guaranteed to players (average of $66.7mil per team)
-There will be an absolute minimum & maximum teams can spend.
-Similar to NHL style cap (Could mean all contracts have pre-determined buy-outs, e.g. 50%)
Not liking that 62 million number.
That means the knicks will have enough to make a serious run at CP3 or DWILL.
its still early in the talks...
i think this was floated out there, may or may not be a legitimate talking point
Hope So.
Starmelo make 40 together. Add min salaries and cap holds to the them up to a full roster and they are at 45ish. Leaves them with roughly 17 to 18 million to go after our guy or CP3… I promise you that this is not a positive development for the nets.
Don't lose hope remember...
Moses and the Israelite children were in the wilderness for 40 years and they still got to the promise land.
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
hey look M I K E also waited 40 years
THE TIME HAS COME
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
I BEG. imagine what we could do with 30 million in cap space.
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Only 7 Mil per year
Official Member of the "DO NOT ABUSE BROOK LOPEZ" Movement
My bad. 23+7=30 Mil
Official Member of the "DO NOT ABUSE BROOK LOPEZ" Movement
we already have 23 atm
so 23 + 7 = 30
YAY FOR MATH
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
LUL
all is forgiven around here. Once your done with school the laws of math don’t matter anymore.
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
See, I recognized my mistake in matter of seconds :)
Official Member of the "DO NOT ABUSE BROOK LOPEZ" Movement
yea i saw that after i posted
@david – im still not done with school :(
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
So the cap could be raised (not lowered)...and you're still crying about Outlaw being a cap killer
smh
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
If they do set the cap at 62 million
How do they stop owners from giving out Joe Johnson contracts again? Because you know that as soon as teams have cap space they’ll be falling all over themselves again to be the first to give Hump 70 million
i remember hearing something about 4 year MAX on contracts...
if that is still in play, that will certainly help the owners from themselves
No ones giving hump 70 million thats absurd.
Unless they’re getting kim too.
Joe Johnson scored 20 ppg for so many seasons in a row and he was a hometown hero and they wanted to lock him up and rushed into a bad contract.
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Common Sense
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
by netsareboss on Jun 21, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nothing. But hopefully GMs get smarter.
by David Triger on Jun 21, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
They've had this problem before. That's what the amnesty in 2005 was for
Yet here we are again, no smarter than before.
Can anyone define Flex Cap
Seems like a weird term and the way it is described by experts does not clear anything up.
They made it up
To not be a “hard cap”.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Helmets?
are they adding helmets to the NBA?
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
by netsareboss on Jun 21, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This proves that the NBA loves what MIA did for the ratings.
The NBA is turning into sports entertainment.
They want superteams bottomline.
The cap should have been lowered not raised wtf?!!!
Agreed. Again, it is not a positive developement for the nets.
A 62 million cap means dwight or bust.
how is it a negative development for a team
that has the RICHEST OWNER IN THE LEAGUE?
I don’t care what the Knicks can do. The NBA is giving Prokhorov every chance to turn the Nets into a powerhouse. I’m excited.
by MrDollarBills on Jun 21, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothings definite yet
Remember how they said Jimmer wanted to be on the Nets? And how Gasol was going to Minny?
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
I am not sure about you guys, but I find that my level of interest in all sports (not just NBA) is starting to wane. I had season tickets for the Nets since like 2002 – and ended up splitting with a friend this year. FOund I rarely went to games, as the 7pm start time was just absurd and with HD at home – kind of a better and more convenient way to watch the Nets.
If the NBA tries to go the superteam route – I will have interest for a year or two and then lose all interest – as the sport loses its luster when there are 5 or 6 teams who can win each year.
If the NBA tries to go the superteam route – I will have interest for a year or two and then lose all interest – as the sport loses its luster when there are 5 or 6 teams who can win each year.
You just described the current state of the NBA.
by BrooksBridges11 on Jun 21, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
at least you can see Cinderella teams like Memphis make it competitive. This will even destory that illusion.
bollicks
the NBA has never had parity. Even if they now want superteams, there will still be teams like Memphis that comes along and shocks everyone.
by MrDollarBills on Jun 21, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Andres B for the gif
All you youngin’s take note of the excellent form and weight amount required to develop elite athlete strength. I promise you, if you work out as hard as Outlaw does, you can eventually get paid like, out of this world.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Jun 21, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
What weights?
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
One word comes to mind
when i see 2 armed cable crossovers with 0 weight….
Strenuous.
by NetsKiNG on Jun 21, 2011 4:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Is he building up his pitching muscles?
Trying to not look like John Wall when he throws a pitch?
Or maybe he heard
that you can make more money in MLB. Two sport star!
he's just tryin to show
how fast he can move them sticks arms
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
That's right Deron, look away
You don’t want to see what the ’Law is doing.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
To be fair
I looked at the rest of the videos on the page and Outlaw isnt the only one doing that. Its to build rotational power. I dont know what use that is in basketball at all, I saw what i think was a baseball player practicing his swing using that and Urijah Faber working on his swivel speed.
Outlaw cant help himself he is just like the goofy kid in high school.
You need weights though
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
dribbling, playing defense
you think rose and lebron and wade could contort themselves through 4 guys in the lane for a layup without rotational power
as long as outlaw is in a gym i am happy he needs all the work he can do
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 21, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
From now on, can we refer to Travis Outlaw as...
“Crab Swag?” Please.
Travis “Crab Swag” Outlaw. I like it.
If you're interested, you can follow me @TokenNBR.
CRAAAAB PEOPLE
CRAAAAAAB PEOPLE
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
by netsareboss on Jun 21, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol yes
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Jun 21, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
it wasn't funny the first time this was posted today....
and really, who cares?
you choose to keep staring at one GIF or video of a guy who you already hate, only to further insult him.
for the record, lifting weights doesn’t make your wide open jump shots drop, nor does it instill into any player the desire to play defense.
No, you're wrong.
That is most definitely funny.
Come on Chak, look at the dude’s form.
If you're interested, you can follow me @TokenNBR.
by Dopeness on Jun 21, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i've never been a gym rat, myself...
so i’ve got nothing to say about his form.
i just don’t see what anyone gains from the constant poking fun at travis outlaw. it’s been old for months, now its just annoying.
if it wasn’t Outlaw, you all would be ripping on someone else. It’s not like your mindless jokes or childish complaining will make him any better at basketball, or make him disappear
Old for months?
That video we just saw yesterday/today!
From crabbing to cable crossovers with no weight… sorry he’s doing it to himself. If I saw Lopez doing that I’d make fun.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Jun 21, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and that'd be fine if it was Lopez...
how many threads have been taken over by Down-with-Outlaw stupidity?
he didn’t post the GIF, and he (more than likely) didn’t set up a video camera in the gym…
again, i have to ask, what do any of you gain by hijacking threads with hate for travis outlaw?
What do any of us gain by posting on NetsDaily?
/all threads ever in the existence of everdom
If you're interested, you can follow me @TokenNBR.
dude
I think deep down, all of the travis bashing will go away if Outlaw is a productive player for us next season. He’ll be a cult hero on this board if he turns it around
and i’m dead serious.
by MrDollarBills on Jun 21, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It's clearly a coping mechanism for a frustrating situation
It’s not that hard to get :(
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
by strange-brew on Jun 21, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I usually agree that the Outlaw thing is getting old, but now he's provided us with new material.
The dude is clearly just going through the motions instead of working hard and his movements are extremely awkward.
Once again, you’re wrong on this one. The two arm cable crossover and squat shuffle videos are HIGH-larious. I have to employ energy in order to not laugh when watching those two GIFS; they’re definitely funny.
If you're interested, you can follow me @TokenNBR.
by Dopeness on Jun 21, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nope, i'm right. you're still wrong.
you see, when i say things, it counts. when you (anyone who disagrees with me) say things, it doesn’t count…. unless you change your opinion to support mine.
A comic relief clause
so contracts won’t count towards the salary cap, but we can retain Outlaw for such entertaining jokes and gifs during the off season..
by vicxdel on Jun 21, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I think we're all looking at this clip the wrong way
What probably happened was that he forgot to set the weight and then pulled thinking it was heavier and VOILA, crazy looking motion.
by Anthony Perez on Jun 21, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
yea i figured
but still. Its OUTLAW.
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
Salary cap goes up to favor 3 teams
Mia
Lak
Nyc
Stern is wicked evil.
I hate what he is doing to my beloved NBA.
Doesn't help the Lakers
since they are way over the cap anyway. Miami is commited to $67 million next year so it doesn’t help them either.
This sucks
there are going to be teams like Milwaukee, Minnesota, Jazz, Cavs, etc who will act as minor league teams to the major market teams (Lakers, New York, Miami, etc) and when they draft superstars through the draft, they will just leave as free agents.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Jun 21, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is that
You know one major thing that will be discussed amongst owners is revenue sharing. The NFL splits ALL television money equally amongst all of the teams. In the NBA, teams keep their own regional TV revenue. That’s why teams like the Knicks & Lakers make an overwhelming majority of the money. If Buss & Dolan have to share some of that TV revenue, then other teams can afford to compete.
Also, it’s been tweeted that in the owners propsal, there will be an absolute minimum & maximum. That means an eventual hard cap somewhere above the “flex cap.”
that's their problem
we’re about to join the big boys club.
Let the peasants eat cake
by MrDollarBills on Jun 21, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yesssirrrrr
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
It proves that the NBA (all sports actually) are nothing but a business.
Sit behind the bench at an NBA game some night….Half the guys on the bench are more focused on what girls are in the stands, what is going on after the game, etc than what is actually happening on the court.
by Ryan243 on Jun 21, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well im pretty sure we all know who they're looking at
during home Nets games
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
There are so many comments that could be made here………Since this is a family site, going to leave this alone.
tht is a genius idea
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
It's why I love the NFl
they build team through the draft. Basically the best FO and coach win it all
"Can not resist"...
Apparently you weren’t the only one (lol)
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
I would do the same thing
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
i'm starting to question speights manhood
he has the best “secluded” view and yet looks at lou williams in dumbfounded distraught while dalembert, thad, and lou decide who’s going to ask for her number first in front of her male friend
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 21, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
dude
I would be looking at those things myself.
by MrDollarBills on Jun 21, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm depressed without any nba
playoff/finals action to tune into. guess you’re not….
imagine something extremely witty here
I think were going to crazy here
Would Dwight really join the heat just to get that ring? Is he that desperate for one?. With Chris paul you guys do know other teams need PGS, he couldnt go to Dallas? Or even Orlando?, I like this proposal let the big teams go at if for wins, rings, players etc etc, there are alot of stars out there we don’t get Howard move on to the next one durant? For example could leave never know.
by Wall2KingJames on Jun 21, 2011 4:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the same NBA
that has never had a lick of parity?
Stern is HELPING US here. If you can’t see how a higher cap doesn’t help the Nets, i dunno what to tell you.
by MrDollarBills on Jun 21, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Arguing over the CBA negotiations now is ridiculous
This is nowhere near complete.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
If there's a 62 million cap
NY will still not have enough room for a max deal in 2012.
As of now, and assuming they decline Douglas’ option and renounce Fields’ rights, they’d have a 47.3M payroll for 2012 (guaranteed contracts: Amare, Melo, Balkman and this year’s 1st rd pick, plus 8 cap holds for having 8 players under the league minimum). That’d mean they could offer a contract starting up to $14.7million at max, and if they did they’d have to fill out the roster with 7 players making the minimum. Max contracts start at around 16.5/ 17 million. And remember a team that holds one player’s BR can offer him more money and years than other teams. Knicks would be getting closer, but it would still require a supertar taking a paycut in order to join them. Also, is as rumored they acquire a player like Casspi for Douglas and/ or move up in this year’s draft, then you’d have to add even more salary to that figure.
by Andres B on Jun 21, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Only if salary rollbacks
Which I could never ever ever ever imagine players agreeing to.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
completely off topic, but that goes for about 75% of what has been posted today...
does anyone think that the hostility towards Lebron James would go away completely, or at least be reduced, if he entered into the 2012 Slam Dunk Contest?
No
He is considerd a failure, loser, and undetermined until he wins a C.S., LeBrons hairline will fade faster than the hate fans have for him.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
he wont do it hes chicken
He don’t wanna see BG aka BLAKE the Earthquake
by DJ HeavyDuty on Jun 21, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like there will be some form of a hard cap
From an article on ESPN:
The owners also moved their position on cap exceptions, saying the Larry Bird Exception and the mid-level exception would remain in a new system, although team could not exceed an as-yet-determined maximum team salary.
So if the salary cap is $62 million there could be a hard cap at say $75 million or something like that.
Not sure what this means:
Under the owners’ new proposal, the luxury tax would be eliminated and players would give back the 8 percent “escrow tax” that is currently withheld from all NBA paychecks. The financial terms would evolve over the first few years of the agreement.
If there is no luxury tax why would players “give back” the escrow tax? Are they asking the players to take an 8 percent reduction in salaries? I would think the owners are giving back the escrow if there is no luxury tax. That’s like saying there is no more income tax yet I’m still getting the same pay check. Maybe it was a mistake in the article.
i never understood the original hard cap
no teams ever touched. couple teams hit 90 million but by that point they were trading/acquiring equal salaries or adding vets min players
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 21, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
if they try to make trouble, stern uses one word
CONTRACTION
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
by Mike28Live on Jun 21, 2011 4:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How do you know
How do you know that the small market teams caved? It all depends on the revenue sharing agreement amongst owners.
Correct, if you look at it from a pure dollar standpoint
instead of a trying to compete and win standpoint. I sometimes forget that the NBA is a business and many owners put profits over wins (especially since the rat is gone)
What?
The proposal is reported to have an absolute minimum & maximum salary. If revenue sharing goes up, i.e. Lakers, Knicks & Heat have to share their TV money, then teams have more money to spend on players.
revenue sharing
that’s probably what gave way to this new development
by MrDollarBills on Jun 21, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i could careless who we draft, if it isnt
Part of some plan to obtain josh smith, I really don’t care ! Josh smith is a proven veteran player which is what Dwill wants, a good friend of Howards… I swear it seems like everybody has been drooling over this draft class… screw this draft class, I WANT VETS !!!!!!!!
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
by Mike28Live on Jun 21, 2011 4:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wait a minute
If it is a flexible cap and Dwight becomes a free agent,
does that mean we can have both Lopez and Dwight since we would have lopez’ Bird Rights and we dont have to worry about cap holds?
Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement
DWIGHT WOULD MOVE TO MIAMI
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
by Mike28Live on Jun 21, 2011 4:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dwight has said he wants to create his own legacy
and he isnt like Lebron and Melo.
Dwight wants a statue in front of an arena alone not with Lebron and Wade.
Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement
Well so far his legacy
Is starting off the same way as melo, bron, etc.
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
by Mike28Live on Jun 21, 2011 5:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
our evil plans are still evil
and they might actually come to fruition
by MrDollarBills on Jun 21, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not surprised the cap might be raised
Hard cap = raise the cap
No hard cap = lower the cap
I remember this thread below where I said it was just an assumption some fans were making that the salary cap would be lowered. Then I was told it wasn’t an assumption. lol
http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/4/30/2143247/work-begins-on-practice-facility-at-arena#66035976
I also don’t think any games will be lost. The NBA has a lot of momentum going right now. Game 6 did 20+ in the ratings, which is huge.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
I SAID IT B4 AND ILL SAY IT AGAIN
NO LOCK OUT FOR NFL OR NBA, NFL SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE ABOUT TO COME TO TERMS.
MARK MY WORDS, NO LOCKOUT FOR NBA OR NFL !!
AND WHAT I MEAN BY LOCKOUT IS, ACTUAL GAMES BEING MISSED !
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
by Mike28Live on Jun 21, 2011 5:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Could it be that the shot of Outlaw lifting weights
was an intentional joke? It came at the very end of the video, so it could be a visual punchline. If I were Outlaw’s publicist, I would tell him to roll with that.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
So.... guys
Nolan Smith?
Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him
err....um....
maybe ?
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
by strange-brew on Jun 21, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
why's everyone so worried
isnt this what we wanted at all costs?
To avoid a lockout so we can sign players to entice deron to stay
Well not only that but thered be more capspace!!!
Guess what, we are now a place with allure…..people want to play in brooklyn!!!
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jun 21, 2011 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
Problem is there are apparently no "people" in FA this year
- Many don’t want anyone 30 or older
- Many don’t want talented guys who can jump or score and have questionable shot selection or questionable defense
- Many people do not want career bench guys as starters
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
by strange-brew on Jun 21, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Deron
Thornton
AK47
Josh Smith
Dwight Howard
I’d crap my pants.
Dwill/Thornton/AK47/Hump/Dwight
2011 NBA Champions-NJ Nets
We need to go all in for Smith
Otherwise try to get Hickson, let Hump go and pray we get Howard with cap space at deadline or in FA.
Can someone update me on the JAZZ not Nets joke, im confused.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Yesterday there was a report than Jimmer wanted to play for the Knicks or Nets (whom he called 1A and 1B). Shortly after it was announcer that he actually said Jazz, not Nets
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
spotted:
hump dining in LA with danny granger.
via page 6 ny post
imagine something extremely witty here
Uh oh, Pacers are in need of a Power Forward.
Lol, but why would he move to Indiana?
I don’t think Kim would approve
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
Granger-Outlaw trade imminent
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
by strange-brew on Jun 21, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
If the owners offered
to guarantee the players at least $2bil in revenue, which is what they currently make, aren’t we somewhat close to reaching a deal?
That is a pretty large concession by the owners. They originally wanted the players to take a $750mil paycut.
Stephen A Smith
We’ve already experienced it but Stephen A Smith just conformed what we know, Net fans are in great hands with Billy King in charge “the man has a plan”
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