Draft game (Redoing past drafts)
by Claud on Jun 16, 2011 12:17 AM EDT
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Seeing how we are almost a week away from the draft, I though it would be a fun idea to redo some of the previous drafts. It's pretty simple, just pick the top 5 players you would take from each draft from 2000 to 2010.
2000
#1
Kenyon Martin 1st pick
#2
Michael Redd 43rd pick
#3
Hedo Turkoglu 16th Pick
#4
Jamal Crawford 8th pick
#5
Mike Miller 5th pick
2001
#1
Pau Gasol 3rd pick
#2
Tony Parker 28th pick
#3
Joe Johnson 10th pick
#4
Zach Randolph 19th pick
#5
Gilbert Arenas 30th pick
2002
#1
Amar'e Stoudemire 9th pick
#2
Yao Ming 1st pick
#3
Carlos Boozer 35th pick
#4
Caron Butler 10th pick
#5
Tayshaun Prince 23rd pick
2003
#1
Lebron James 1st pick
#2
Dwyane Wade 5th pick
#3
Carmelo Anthony 3rd pick
#4
Chris Bosh 4th pick
#5
David West 18th pick
2004
#1
Dwight Howard 1st pick
#2
Josh Smith 17th pick
#3
Al Jefferson 15th pick
#4
Andre Iguodala 9th Pick
#5
Kevin Martin 26th pick
2005
#1
Chris Paul 4th pick
#2
Deron Williams 3rd pick
#3
Andrew Bogut 1st pick
#4
Danny Granger 17th pick
#5
Monta Ellis 40th pick
2006
#1
LaMarcus Aldridge 2nd pick
#2
Brandon Roy 6th pick
#3
Rudy Gay 8th pick
#4
Rajon Rondo 21st pick
#5
Paul Milsap 47th pick
2007
#1
Kevin Durant 2nd pick
#2
Al Horford 3rd pick
#3
Marc Gasol 48th pick
#4
Joakim Noah 9th pick
#5
Jeff Green 5th pick
2008
#1
Derrick Rose 1st pick
#2
Russell Westbrook 4th pick
#3
Kevin Love 5th pick
#4
Brook Lopez 10th pick
#5
Eric Gordon 7th pick
2009
#1
Blake Griffin 1st pick
#2
Stephen Curry 7th pick
#3
Tyreke Evans 4th pick
#4
Jrue Holiday 17th pick
#5
James Harden 3rd pick
2010
#1
John Wall 1st pick
#2
DeMarcus Cousins 5th pick
#3
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Greg Monroe 7th pick
#4
Landry Fields 39th pick
#5
Derrick Favors 3rd pick
And there it is folks... obviously all of these things can change in a matter of months or years(Especially from 2006 to 2010) but as of today those are my picks.
PS- You don't have to use pictures lol.
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I would take Tyreke ahead of Curry
anyways, this makes me more confident that we could get lucky and get a great player later in the draft! thanks for posting
love thy underdog
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jun 16, 2011 12:46 AM EDT reply actions
I don't think I would have Reke in my top 5...
Dude is not conducive to winning and is an offcourt problem waiting to happen.
by vincecarter4pres on Jun 18, 2011 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions
2000) Kenyon, Redd, Hedo, Crawford, Miller
2001) Pau, Tony Parker, Joe Johnson, Z-Bo, Gerald Wallace
2002) Amare, Yao, Boozer, Caron, Prince
2003) LeBron, Wade, Melo, Bosh, D West
2004) Dwight, J Smoove, Iggy, Al Jeff, Harris
2005) DWill, CP3, Granger, Bogut, Bynum
2006) Aldridge, Gay, Roy (would be #1 if healthy), Rondo, Bargnani
2007) Durant, Horford, Noah, Gasol, Conley
2008) Rose, Westbrook, Love, Lopez, Gordon
2009) Griffin, Curry, Evans, Harden, Lawson
2010) Wall, Favors, Monroe, George, Cousins
I'm looking for Ray Finkle.....and a clean pair of shorts.
I almost just nunchucked you. You don't even realize.
How is Favors #2? he shouldn’t even be on the list. I would take Jordan Crawford over Favors any day.
by say whaaaaat on Jun 16, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And I directed that at say whaaaaaat.
Jordan Crawford over Favors lmao.
Jordan Crawford was terrible, he was just given the green light to chuck-a-luck on a terrible team and scored on mind blowingly vomit inducingly atrocious efficiency, streak shooting none the less.
Dude is absolute garbage, he’ll be out of the league by the end of his rookie contract.
Joekz.
by vincecarter4pres on Jun 18, 2011 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions
He isn't absolute garbage but.
I’d take both of our picks over him any day of the week, and Favors and James will improve (Favors more than James) and will be a force in their own ways.
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There is no way that is a picture of Carlos Boozer. It looks like DeRay Davis bald.
Bdiggie’s list (the one above me) is pretty spot-on.
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Oh and I didn't read the whole post.
Landry Fields over Derrick Favors? Really? I mean, really? Come on, you’re better than that.
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You wouldn't take Fields over Favors?
That’s ridiculous. And that’s coming from a guy who HATES the Knicks. There’s no question Fields was the bigger difference maker and has the better basketball IQ to succeed.
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What?
You don’t pick players based on what they project to produce in their rookie season. Did Landry Fields have a more impactful year than Derrick Favors? Of course he did. However, going into the draft everybody knew that Favors would be a project; he wasn’t expected to produce at a high level his first couple of seasons, but his ceiling was extremely high.
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But...
After seeing what Favors did in his rookie year, it’s more than fair to admit Fields was the better option. Derrick Favors just doesn’t have that toughness and desire to be great. Fields had shown so much more in his time as a rookie.
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Fields was a bucket of suck post Melo trade and epically overrated before it.
Career role player, stats not much better then his pre-Melo trade # wise at peak.
by vincecarter4pres on Jun 18, 2011 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Fields hasn no skills
He was playing off of pure hustle, and open spots on the floor
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by Shameer1016 on Jun 19, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
ya you cant pick one guy based on his rookie year
nobody expected much out of Favors yet he showed flashes and Fields tailed off through the year anyway so its more ridiculous to take Fields over Favors
I'm looking for Ray Finkle.....and a clean pair of shorts.
I almost just nunchucked you. You don't even realize.
That's why I said things can change...
Fields had a better rookie year than Favors, period. I do believe Favors will be better in a few years though.
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
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ya i was responding to i says
I'm looking for Ray Finkle.....and a clean pair of shorts.
I almost just nunchucked you. You don't even realize.
Sorry to sound biased but umm. I'd take Deron first :D
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Oh and Lopez>Westbrook>Kevin Love
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Definately not
I’d take Kevin Love over Brook anyday….Come back to me when Brook has a 30-30 game.
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We'll see which one gets into the playoffs next year...
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I'm just saying none of them have gone anywhere.
If he can average 15+ rebounds again next year I’ll reconsider. But as far as consistency I think Lopez can be a 25-8 guy whereas I’d say Kevin would be a 20-13 guy. I guess it just comes to preference. Talentwise I just think Lopez can be more dominant he just lacks the hustle and drive Kevin possesses.
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Love isn't going to be a 20ppg scorer on a winning team and wouldn't get the minutes to put up 13 boards per.
Winning team he’s a 16 and 11 guy at best.
I’d still easily take Brook over Love.
by vincecarter4pres on Jun 18, 2011 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Then how about Brook? He was never on a winning team lol.
But he has the most polished offense as a center the absolute best at his position offensively so I can only see his numbers going higher especially from all the mishaps last year. He still has yet to miss a game and yet we are really underrating him I’m sure it was just one year for Love and he won’t repeat.
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Love is a really nice player, but he isn't even top 20 even with those gawdy, gawdy eye popping stats, both raw and advanced. His team had a ton more talent then any team Brook has been on post rookie year and they were still worst in the league.
I don’t know that Love can improve much on what he did last year given his physical limitations and attitude.
He’s a fringe top 30 player and the league around him is only getting better.
I’m not blaming him directly for his team being so bad or saying he could never be part of a winning team, but to me, Brook is a guy whose numbers will go way up on a winning team, where as Love would have to have a reduced role, numbers and minutes.
As bad as Lopez is at times on D, he looks like Dwight next to Turnstile Kevin.
Eh, maybe not. Maybe he’ll be a like Zach Randolph, but then again, maybe he’ll be like Zach Randolph…
Years upon years of big shiny stats on losing teams and it takes til he’s in his late 20’s for it to click and him to find the right situation?
by vincecarter4pres on Jun 19, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Brook Lopez isnt Top 20 either.....
prob not 30…
ANd you said before that Love cant put up good numbers on a winning team…Then niether would lopez.. If you say that bout love than, Brook might be a 18-3 guy on a winning team…..
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If we make the playoffs next year
It’ll be because of D-Will. Brook Lopez got us to where we were before D-Will, and who wants to be there again?
by say whaaaaat on Jun 16, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Encouraging
This does make it pretty clear that you can have a pick in the high teens or 20s or 30s or higher and still find a high quality player. I suppose it requires some luck (that no one picking in front of you has sufficient wisdom) as well as ability to see what no one else sees, but it can be done.
This does make it pretty clear that you can have a pick in the high teens or 20s or 30s or higher and still find a high quality player.
No, it proves the exact opposite.
I lost precise count, but I think it was 40 and 20 for top 10 picks to outside the top ten and like 11 of those outside the top 10 were mid teens picks.
by vincecarter4pres on Jun 18, 2011 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions
That is a whole heck of a lot of photos you compiled, Claud :0)
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
Before Paul got hurt
The dude was a problem. He was having a Magical season, pun fully intended.
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Paul is still better, but it's a 1a/1b situation like it has always been.
by vincecarter4pres on Jun 18, 2011 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions
nope d will is better
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Based on completely nothing, aside from the fact that you're a Nets fan.
Fine.
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08) rose, love, westbrook, lopez, hibbert
09) griffin, evans, curry, jennings, collison
10) wall, cousins, fields, w johnson, monroe
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DWill Era- 7-18
2000) Turkoglu, Martin, Eddie House, Redd, Crawford
2001) Gasol, Battier, Parker, Richard Jefferson, Randolph
2002) Stoudemire, Gilbert Arenas, Nene, Prince, Butler
2003) James, Wade, Anthony, West, Bosh
2004) Howard, Smith, Martin, Iguodala, Al Jefferson
2005) Paul, Williams, Ellis, Bogut, Granger
2006) Aldridge, Gay, Millsap, Rondo, Roy
2007) Durant, Horford, Ramon Sessions, Green, Oden
2008) Rose, Lopez, Westbrook, Gordon, Love
2009) Evans, Griffin, Collison, Holiday, Harden
2010) Wall, Turner, Cousins, Fields, Monroe
Fire Johnson and hire Brown - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking somethin' when he let Brown slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jun 17, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
Eddie House roflcoptersaurus!
by vincecarter4pres on Jun 18, 2011 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd take Redd in crutches over Eddie House.
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by Nets 12-70 on Jun 18, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have 3 immediate beefs upon first glance(a very quick one).
1. If you’re going to ignore Roy’s injuries and put him 2nd, Gilbert Arenas needs to be at 2nd overall as well.
2. Landry Fields in the top 5 is a joke, Paul George needs to be in there and I’m taking Monroe over DeMarcus.
3. James Harden should be at 2, Curry at 3 and I might slip Reke out of there completely for Demar DeRozan.
by vincecarter4pres on Jun 18, 2011 3:15 AM EDT reply actions
2. Harden
3. Derozan
4.Tyreke
5.Jrue
They will all be all stars eventually, but Curry plays the least defence of those 4 and I think Jrue’s athleticism puts him above Curry. But we can just agree to disagree. Either way all of those guys are great picks.
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i think after that mega 2003 draft where most superstar came
2008 draft looks like the next superstar draft…….rose,lopez,westbrook, gordon, love, mayo,gallinari, hibbert, Mcgee, courtney lee, Ryan Anderson, batum, dragic,
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