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Nets Scouts Travel to Eurocamp

With as many as a third of the first round picks from overseas, the Nets have dispatched their top scout to Italy where he'll meet up with the team's international scout to watch European prospects this weekend at the Adidas Eurocamp outside Venice.

Gregg Polinsky and Danko Cvjeticanin will spend the weekend in Treviso.

Like the Pre-Draft Combine, not everyone will be showing up and some will only attend for measurements and drills and others will only make themselves available for private or limited workouts off-site. There's also a camp for younger players.

Who might be available where the Nets pick, assuming they don't move up (or down) from their current spots at #27 and #36? 

Davis Bertans, a 6'10" 18-year-old shooter from Latvia (who might still drop out); Bojan Bogdanovic, 22, a 6'7" small forward from Serbia; and Lucas Nogueira, a Brazilian 18-year-old who's 6'11" but painfully thin and raw. Other top Euros, like Lithuanian seven-footer Donatas Motiejunas (above), have been jumping all over draft boards and could be in range if the Nets decided to trade up.

Meanwhile, Fred Kerber tells FOX Sports the Nets like guards Marshon Brooks of Providence and Malcolm Lee of UCLA.

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those are all names I like

but you haven’t seen much if anything on who the Nets like. Very close-mouthed this year.

by Net Income on Jun 11, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

i like the idea of getting tyler or leuer in the second round.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Jun 11, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Tyler, I just don’t see it with Leuer. He looks like another Steve Novak to me.

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 11, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup, those three are who I'd target...

yup, those three are who I’d target… especially because they are all talented and ready to contribute right away as well as having great potential to grow.

But the best thing is that their rookie contracts would be smaller than their peers getting picked ahead of them and they may be just as good, if not better, than a lot of them = bargain!

by Ezbrie on Jun 11, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly...

Unless an amnesty clause is implemented, I don’t think the Nets should pursue Thaddeus Young. Obviously, he’s more explosive and efficient than Outlaw — and he has a plethora of upside — but it would be redundant. They’re both tweeners.

I still think that Outlaw is going to come back strong, next season. I’m not saying he’ll be an all-star, but he can be a quality sixth man; as long as he’s not asked to be a top-3 option on offense, he’ll be fine. His contract isn’t as monstrous as many Nets fans make it out to be

by Dopeness on Jun 11, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is NI getting to you?

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by David28 on Jun 11, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not so sure about high shooting percentage.

Still if theres any way we could get Alec Burks I’d rather get him. But Marshon Brooks is always plan B, other than that I don’t really want anybody in this draft that’s attainable.

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by Nets 12-70 on Jun 11, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s no way we can get Burks

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 11, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just see brooks as more of an nba prospect than burks

with that wingspan he can be trouble

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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jun 11, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to agree

Me personally , would take Brooks as the 1st SG in the draft. The only persons I like as much is Irving and Tyler.

by Zartan on Jun 11, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brooks or Bust

Lopez/Petro/C Hayes
Hump/T Young
AK47/T Young/Outlaw
Brooks/Morrow
DWIll/Farmar/Gaines

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jun 11, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now people want Thad Young?

I don’t get it. Weeks before people were saying they didn’t know if he could play SF as efficiently because he plays PF most of the time. As a guy coming off the bench where is Damion James in that lineup, and why would you want to pay a lot for Thad when he’s just going to come off the bench.

No Thad Young, its not happening. Lets not limit our possibilities, every possible lineup should always include Dwight, and Ak47 ;D

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by Nets 12-70 on Jun 11, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Thad Young, its not happening.

Hopefully you are right.

by Andres B on Jun 11, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It might. Philly is desperately trying to trade Iggy to make room for Young

He isnt even going to cost that much. He is a good fit for our team since he can play PF also. Brooks would start over morrow since he is a slasher. Morrow and Young of the bench would keep the points rolling when we sub out Lopez

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Jun 11, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have always wanted Thad Young

ever since KV mentioned that he was a free agent.

2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship

Mission accomplished thus far.

by BigTom on Jun 11, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need to draft one Shooter and one Big.

Getter done. They have plenty of great shooter in Europe. Then try to move up and take a chance on faried or lauer. Not that many centers in the draft. Just PF.

by Gr8tness on Jun 11, 2011 10:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Go for it, Brooks is 1st option!

DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...

by Heavinsent on Jun 11, 2011 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Glad Nets like marshon and malcom.

I like malcolm alot….but i dont know how he’ll fit in if he considers himself a pg.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Jun 11, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I am 100% positive a deal will be done on draft night. Brooks seems to have gotten a promise from a higher seeded team. I can see us moving up to take him or dealing.

Faried is dropping in a lot of mocks but I don’t think there is that much interest on the Nets part.

by power_njerz on Jun 11, 2011 11:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Probably got a promise from Boston. They pick at # 25. We have to move up. Thats probably why he dropped out on Thursday, he knows he wont be there at 27.

by rvc666 on Jun 11, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

higher than that, I'll bet

although Ainge has been known to give early promises to players

by Net Income on Jun 11, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nets need to move up to # 20 the Timberwolves pick to get Brooks. Got a feeling Denver or Boston will take him. Offer Minnesota The 27th and 36th picks plus cash. Also if somehow we can also get Michael Beasley from them to would be good.

by rvc666 on Jun 11, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

LOL we are gonna not only

take the higher pick but we are gonna get one of their better players in return???
Sounds like a perfect world to me

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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jun 11, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we move up

I hope we get someone like Vucevic. Doubt he makes it past Portland at #21, so targeting Minny’s pick (#20) might be a good idea. Who knows, someone like Harris or Faried might be available there, too.

by Andres B on Jun 11, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I like Vucevic, Faried no. Marshon Brooks is who we need. I watch him and i see Terrance Williams without the baggage. A very explosive 2 just like T-will was.

by rvc666 on Jun 11, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

marshon doesnt look that athletic. lol

faried will drop on draft night…people are coming to reality on him, i believe.
he’s undersized 6’6"-6’7" and has zero offensive game. He’s also a senior, which doesnt help him much.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Jun 11, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reggie Evans is a really good comparison for Faried, I think. Good player and a guy you want on your team, but how early can you justify taking him?

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 11, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't Brooks be a lottery pick?

Think about it; a great looking SG prospect who people are comparing from Kobe to Crawford. What SG’s do you take over him? If you have to choose between him, Klay Thompson, and Alec Burks, who do you take? If you say Brooks, then you’re taking him over “a lottery player,” and “a top 10 player.” One reason drafts don’t match mocks are because hype and highschool reputation start the mock draft process. However when a GM is on the clock he’s choosing the guy he likes the most, bottom line, not the guy who he’s supposed to like. Marshon fits the bill of a guy who gets pegged as a low pick by fans who evaluate value based on mock rankings spuriously affected by hype-bias. I think it’ll cost too much to go get him, unless there’s a run on bigs. Otherwise he appears to be an attractive guard prospect.

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by GMJigga on Jun 11, 2011 11:21 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

wouldnt be surprised of brooks slips into the lottery

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Jun 11, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sold on Brooks.

My brother is a Providence College alum that follows the Friars very closely, but knows very little about the NBA. I asked him his thoughts on Brooks, and he didn’t think he’d be a good NBA player. He said he was basically a ball hog in a horrible system on a horrible team. He also said the guy plays zero defense. I haven’t seen him much, so i cant really comment on how i feel about him. I do know that with 4 year players, while you may be getting a guy who’s NBA ready, the reason why he never left early was because no NBA team would have taken him.

by Pawley on Jun 11, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

he didn’t think he’d be a good NBA player. He said he was basically a ball hog in a horrible system on a horrible team. He also said the guy plays zero defense.

From what Ive’ seen from Brooks, I have to say I completely agree with your brother.

by Andres B on Jun 11, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The question is, is he a ball hog because that’s who he is? Or is he a ball hog because he played on a horrible team in a horrible system? Brooks is a boom or bust player. He could be a “Please stop taking so many bad shots” type of player (think Larry Hughes without the defense) or he could be a Kevin Martin type.

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 11, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, he was a ball hog because of the system..

he was the star on the team and the rest of the team was very limited so the Coach made a system around him….read his interview on hoopshype.

DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...

by Heavinsent on Jun 11, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quincy Douby

Led the Big East in scoring. NBA bust.

by Pawley on Jun 11, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Nets really like Marshon…they trade Farmar and cash for him.

Give Malcolm Lee a promise…and he could be the new back up PG. Then in the second round we can go with a Big…Jeremy Tyler, Jordan Williams or Jon Leuer.

Deron Williams/Malcolm Lee/Sundiata Gaines
Marshon Brooks/Anthony Morrow/Sasha Vujecic
Small Forward/Travis Outlaw/Damion James
Kris Humphries/Andrei Kirilenko
Brook Lopez/Jeremy Tyler

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Jun 11, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

farmar and cash

if he slips into the lottery, u think that’ll do it?
I doubt it….it needs to be a multiplayer deal where we’re absorbing someone else’s player…..if our FO wants him badly someones gonna hijack us for him

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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jun 11, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

no way

Farmar has higher value than that.

by Net Income on Jun 11, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

People do not understand that there really isnt a better PG combo than him and D-Will.

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by NetsMets4Life on Jun 11, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

please…

farmar is expendable. although i dont mind keeping him.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Jun 11, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You'd be surprised to see how many teams can use a Jordan Farmar.

It’s kinda mind blowing to me that some of you seem to prefer Gaines over Farmar.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
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by NetsMets4Life on Jun 11, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

because players like Gaines and Humph have hart

your not gonna get a game crushing easy layup on those guys(Think Oakley). If the player that Farmer is defensing needs a bucket to win, Bank it.

by Zartan on Jun 11, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

What.

You’re telling me Farmar isnt as valuable as Gaines because he doesnt have heart? Are you serious?

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jun 11, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I value that over all else

I LOVED it when Humph didn’t let Blake score that go ahead basket.Those plays win games. Farmer will not give you those plays. Don’t think that i don’t feel that Farmer is not a contributor, we value him differently is all. That reason is why the fans that like Gaines want Gaines.

by Zartan on Jun 11, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fans that like Gaines want Gaines?

How fascinating! Tell me more!

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jun 11, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree its a good pg combo

but could farmar start anywhere else??? maybe a few teams…..

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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Jun 11, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

players who are 24

were in the rotation for three NBA Finals teams in three years and who are capable of scoring 28 points or distributing 17 assists (both of which he did this season) and are paid less than $4 million have a huge market in the NBA.

by Net Income on Jun 11, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i dont want him..just saying it could be a possiblity if nets like him.

Morrow is not a starter either IMO.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Jun 11, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

this draft is junk

im actually pretty glad they traded that lotto pick whether dwill bolts or not… its not a huge difference between the top 10 and the bottom of the 1st round…. i would bet the best player comes out of the 20s outside of kyrie

deron williams is better than kyrie irving

by William_H_HOLLA on Jun 11, 2011 11:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

No it isn't

But overall I think this draft like always will surprise us…

… in last years we have said much times "oh I don’t remenber a draft so weak" and then bang, they surprise us…
And this will be no diferrent, I believe this draft will be special, I don’t remenber seen such an unconcensus draft, and isn’t so much for his supposed weak level, it’s more from the strange factors that happened this year with the CBA that made many of the top dogs withdraw, making others emerge and with the high number of International players in the mix. And will be these quality International players that I believe will set the tone to make this draft very special. Other factor will be the high number of sleepers that I believe this draft will show us, probably not stars but guys that can play at high level and be useful to an NBA team.

DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...

by Heavinsent on Jun 11, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

you know there are actually bad drafts

that didn’t surprise and supposedly great drafts that were bogus, like 2007.

Other drafts were extremely top heavy like 2003. Overall, best drafts in past 20 years were the 1999 and 1996 drafts. The worst 2000.

by Net Income on Jun 11, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah of course there really good drafts and really bad drafts, like everything in life, but you say that now, that you have seen how their career is going,....

…. but I’m talking about when everyone previews the drafts, and I remenber in the last years that beeing said much times, per example on the 2009 class, where everyone said it was going to be basically Griffin and now we look at that and see it was a really deep draft class, with even a good number of 2nd rounders showing they can play in NBA.

Just like I think this year will surprise us, the International players will make it special.

DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...

by Heavinsent on Jun 11, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think so as well

IMO, i count 15 great prospects.

by Zartan on Jun 11, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

its weak on superstar talent

but its a deep draft.. there are players that are nba players in this draft all the way to the 40th pick or so. But the thing is there isn’t much difference from the 5-6th pick to the 40th pick talent-wise.

For instance, a guy like Bertans (ranked bubble 1st/2nd rounder) could be as good or better than a Jan Vesely (ranked #4 in many drafts).

Even though I love Kemba Walker, he could end up like Jonny Flynn and Jimmer Fredette could be out of the league faster than you can say Adam Morrison while Deandre Liggins or Shelvin Mack could be better fits to last in the NBA.

Even in the top 2 projected picks, they aren’t sure things. Derrick Williams could be overshadowed by the success of the Morris Twins who are projected to go later in the lottery.

The draft has no sure things—so yea its kinda weak if you have a lottery pick ( my money’s on Enes Kanter as the best in the draft) but if you have a later pick, like us, they this draft is great. We get talent comparable to anyone projected to be on the lottery bubble on the cheaaaaap.

by Ezbrie on Jun 11, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bertans and Nogueira intrigue me a lot. They may not be able to contribute immediately, but I like their upside. I generally hate the jump shooting Euro big, but I like Motiejunas a lot. I’d be stunned if he’s available for us, even with a trade up though. Bogdanovic is an unknown to me

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 11, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Any word on where biyombo will be drafted?

He’s in the eurocamp and can be worth a look great defender and may drop amid concerns for a lack of an offensive game. Are the nets interested in any way?

by Gr8tness on Jun 11, 2011 1:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Biyombo should be off the board long before we pick. He’s a taller Ben Wallace, what team wouldn’t want that on their roster?

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 11, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see him as bust

teams cannot even determine how old he is.

by Net Income on Jun 11, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think so too

NBAdraft.net seems to agree also. They dropped him down to #20

by calvinbw on Jun 11, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea I think he's a bust..

But he could turn into a Serge Ibaka… Serge was raw coming into the league.

I think Enes Kanter is going to be the best player from this draft. He has Derrick Favors athleticism but an offensive game too. I can see him being dominant.

by Ezbrie on Jun 11, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like him

In this podcast Givoney seems to think that the downside for him is small.

I think he fits well next to Lopez as he will hustle, play d, and intimidate with his length.

If he falls to 14 the Nets should trade the Houston pick back to draft him.

by gsloots on Jun 11, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Nets Need

 Marshon Brooks & Machael Beasly

by sucesso on Jun 11, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Can anybody explain to me why people completely ignore defense? Defense wins champions, not offense. Beasley is not a championship player.

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 11, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need real basketball players.

Beasley is leaps and bounds better than Outlaw, Graham, Sasha and whoever else played SF for us last year. Guy can drop 20 per w/ Dwill.

by NetsKiNG on Jun 11, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you even propose we give them for Beasley? Sure he’s better than a group of scrubs, that’s not saying much.

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 11, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe it was eLone who suggested it

but we could offer to take back Johnny Flynn’s contract which is about 3 years, and give them Farmar + James + our picks in the 2011 draft.

It wouldn’t take that much to get Beasley since teams know MIN will be looking to dump him.

Gives them a nice backup PG on a good contract, rids them of a bad contract, and also multiple draft picks.

by NetsKiNG on Jun 11, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jonny Flynn was the #6 pick in the draft just two years ago. As for his “bad contract”, the Wolves have a team option after next season. It’s essentially a 1 year at 3.4M, they’ll manage.

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 11, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

if MIN keeps the pick and takes Derrick Williams the Nets should go HARD for Beasley.

Even an offseason where we brought in Beasley via trade and lets say JR Smith via free agency we would have a pretty legit and athletic starting 5.

Dwill-JR-Beasley-Hump-Brook. Definitely a playoff team.

by NetsKiNG on Jun 11, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bottom 5 defense…

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 11, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can teach defense.

You can’t teach athleticism and length.

by Dopeness on Jun 11, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

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by David28 on Jun 11, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s just that simple? You can just teach defense? I mean, sure, players could learn to play better defense, but JR and Beasley have shown that they don’t have that mentality. They don’t care about defense. Better athletes have gone years playing awful defense. It’s not as easy as just saying “oh we could teach them how to play defense,” some players will never figure it out, and even if they have the potential to be a great defender they will never reach it.

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 11, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

We've gone through this before.

J.R. Smith has never played under a coach who stressed defense and he’s certainly not the type to take the initiative on that side of the court. He has the tools; he just needs to be taught — Avery Johnson should be able to do just that. It should also be noted that Smith played above average defense, last season.

Michael Beasley is going into his fourth season in the NBA. He has also yet to have a coach who stresses defense. He has the tools; he just needs to be coached.

Remember LeBron James used to be a horrible on-ball defender? Now look at him.

by Dopeness on Jun 11, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, I'll give you that....

But financially, will it work with the new additions there? (minus DH)

by Chuck D. on Jun 11, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If anything I'll take one or the other.

Not both J.R. and Beasley. Too much headcases.

by Chuck D. on Jun 11, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t want either of them. Way too much drama— they are not professionals. I might even go as far and say they are cancerous to teams.

by Ezbrie on Jun 11, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know the majority of NetsDaily disagrees...

But Terrence Williams is exactly the type of player that this Nets roster needs.

Too bad.

by Dopeness on Jun 11, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

If he only had a brain....

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 11, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was one of the higher BBIQ players the Nets had.

But yeah, he had (or has) a Twitter obsession and didn’t like his alarm clock.

by Dopeness on Jun 11, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

he was a turnover machine. I would not say he had the highest bbiq.

by NetsKiNG on Jun 11, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes and no.

A good portion of those turnovers resulted from what I like to call “Jason Williams syndrome.” His passes were so difficult and unexpected that players would often not be ready to receive the ball. This would lead to turnovers. That’s not to say that he didn’t have a number of unforced errors.

He did take a lot of risks, but he was only a rookie. He certainly had great knowledge of spacing and defensive rotations. If you watched last season, you’d see that veteran players would often take direction from TWill — a rookie — on where they should be for a certain play.

It was a mistake to trade him, but hopefully the Houston draft pick pans out.

by Dopeness on Jun 11, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe im crazy but i seen the same

the only thing i didnt like was those one hand pull up floaters. I really thought he would be a good poor mans Wade.

by Zartan on Jun 11, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you're saying the Nets need a headache.

2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship

Mission accomplished thus far.

by BigTom on Jun 11, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something will happen on draft day

Billy King made draft day moves in 7of his 10 years at Philly. Now with the added incentive of DWill’s free agency and need to upgrade the roster. Combined with Proky’s money, I fully expect a trade or purchase of pick(s).

by Doesthishurt on Jun 11, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Malcom Lee looks like he's D-wade 6'4

Meaning has long arms has room to put on more muscle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67FmzISOzZg&feature=related

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Jun 11, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Malcolm Lee is the guy i want.

hope we get him with one of our picks…
I would pick Lee over Marshon Brooks.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Jun 11, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lee is safer than Brooks, but the upside isn’t even close.

On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!

by J-Kay on Jun 11, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

man NI must have hit some bomb a-- p-----

giving ratner some faults

suggesting outlaw will be gone next year

i need to save this convo

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 12, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

DeShawn and Tayshaun - shake and bake

Deron Williams – Jordan Farmar
DeShawn Stephenson – Anthony Morrow – Malcom Lee
Tayshaun Prince – Damion James
Kris Humphries – Keith Benson – Travis Outlaw
Brook Lopez – Johan Petro

"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"

by strange-brew on Jun 11, 2011 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea Deshawn Stephenson?? Seriously? Tayshaun Prince—maybe, maaaaybe. He is old and has slowed down and lost his hops A LOT. If Tayshaun can be gotten for Morrow or Farmar type money I’d say sure. But he wont, so no.

by Ezbrie on Jun 11, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

twil

Might’ve been a head case, but he had d-wade potiential. Plus, he’s 100 percent better than outlol. Outlol gave net fans headaches, why didn’t we trade him away after the first 15 games? Smh. Portland wouldve wanted him back. Just saying.

by ezarate2012 on Jun 11, 2011 3:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

.............Portland

Would NOT have wanted him back….

by xs0ng on Jun 11, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

if twill never wouldve gotten traded we couldve had...

Dwill / farmar / maybe gaines
Morrow / graham
Twill / outlol
Hump / wright
Lopez/ petro
Not a thrilling lineup. But way better than what we ended the season with. Maybe we couldve gotten the 8th seed. If Dwill didn’t have the injury. And I’m more the positive twill couldve flourished playing with Mr. #8

by ezarate2012 on Jun 11, 2011 3:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

bojan bogdanovic is not from serbia.He is from Croatia

by netsfranchise on Jun 11, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I would say the Nets need to draft any particular player from this draft considering they're all projected to have marginal impact

If “a player they like” comes off the board earlier than they anticipated, do you really think they think they won’t be able to find an alternative player at roughly the same talent level who will unexpectedly drop down to them? I think it’ll be a wash.

2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship

Mission accomplished thus far.

by BigTom on Jun 11, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not falling in love with any particular prospect given all these guys' projections

If any one of these guys is off the board by the time we select, I won’t lose any sleep. There will be a roughly equivalent player available.

2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship

Mission accomplished thus far.

by BigTom on Jun 11, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like Marshon Brooks as well

But if for some reason he’s gone by 27, i think the nets should strongly consider Justin Harper. He seems like a 3 to me with his skillset, is a pure shooter, very athletic and watching some film of him kind of reminds me of a Danny Granger or Kevin Durant type of player. I would say

1. Marshon Brooks
2. Justin Harper
3. Josh Selby
4. Malcom Lee
5. Kyle Singler

by JerzeyBlaze on Jun 11, 2011 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

They better be sure Harper is a 3

We already have 7 million dollar outlaw for that tweener role off the bench.

"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"

by strange-brew on Jun 11, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you take him at #36, who cares.

and he has fallen into second round after Chicago. No idea why but he has.

by Net Income on Jun 11, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it's a good idea the Nets buy more draft picks at late or beginnig of 2nd round...

…I’m really seeing a bunch of sleepers in this draft, more picks we have, more chances we have of finding that sleepers. If the get a chance they should try to get Bertrans, Vucevic or Mirotic.

DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...

by Heavinsent on Jun 11, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marshon Brooks 52 POINTS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PQFhRBB8LQo
 that the man who put a Big East-record 52 points ,Brooks scored 52 of his team’s 93 points,amazing season Marshon Brooks has had. Brooks (25.4 ppg)

by sucesso on Jun 11, 2011 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

If he is

we have a player who wants to be on the Nets

WORDDDD

Brook Lopez is the MAN!
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I don't really hate Outlaw, its just fun to make fun of him

by netsareboss on Jun 11, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont like how most of these euros are so young with underdeveloped bodies and raw games

when you think of ginobli, parker, scola, barbosa, dragic, barea, etc they all spent time in foreign leagues or college advancing their game before coming over as adults

the only raw guy i know coming over currently is dirk who had to work his tail off to get where he is today. most of the other premature euros turn out like ibaka and darko

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 12, 2011 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

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