NetsDaily Off-Season Report #7
It's the NBA Finals! Yeah, baby! Yeah, we know the Nets aren't in them, but neither are the Lakers. We take a look at how the Lakers' leading blogger measures the loss of Jordan Farmar and Sasha Vujacic; review the last really bad draft and try to figure out where to find value in this one; offer up our Draft Sleeper of the Week (we think they're all sleepers this year) who's been a bit misunderstood; provide a handy guide to those writers around the country who think their team's problems could be solved by a deal for Deron Williams, wonder whether Mikhail Prokhorov was forced into a life of politics and examine the vast worldwide conspiracy that's ensnared Kris Humphries... Beware the K's! We also wish good luck to our favorite K.
Every Sunday, we’ll be updating the Nets’ off-season with bits and pieces of information, gossip, etc. to help take the edge off missing the playoffs, relying on the Nets’ beat reporters and others who have slipped interesting stuff into larger stories, blogs, tweets... plus our own reporting and analysis.
Laker Loss, Net Gain
Laker blogger Mark Medina of the Los Angeles Times has been grading the performances of each individual Laker and although that wouldn't normally be interest, he has something to say about Jordan Farmar and Sasha Vujacic in his reports on Steve Blake, who replaced Farmar, and Joe Smith, who came to the Lakers in the Terrence Williams trade along with the #27 pick in this year's draft. Surprisingly, Medina sees the loss of Vujacic as more critical to the Lakers' demise than Farmar.
Here's what he wrote in grading Blake...
As disappointing as Blake's showing in his first season as a Laker turned out to be, fans shouldn't be suddenly wishing the Lakers had kept Jordan Farmar. He may have jolted the bench, shown more aggressiveness in his opportunities and provided a few showcase games. But with a team that already had issues with individual glory, having a bench player mostly concerned about his own performance wouldn't have helped in any way. In that sense, Blake proved the consummate teammate, knowing his standing in the scoring hierarchy, showing up early to pregame shootarounds to improve his stroke and never causing any locker room friction.
And on Smith...
From a practical standpoint, the Lakers whiffed on trading Vujacic and the team's first-round pick. The team could've used Vujacic's intensity in practice and ability to be an irritant at defense since the team didn't have much of an edge all season. The Lakers could surely use that first-round pick to bolster their roster following a disappointing playoff finish in a four-game sweep to the Dallas Mavericks in the Western Conference semifinals. At the time, I lauded the move -- I thought the Lakers would make better use of Smith to help handle their dwindling frontline depth, and also I believed Vujacic had become irritating to many in the Lakers organization.
Deron in Demand
Not a day goes by without another writer or blogger suggesting his team's problems could be best solved by acquiring Deron Williams... often but not always paired with Chris Paul (who's unlikely to be traded anywhere while the Hornets are owned and operated by the NBA). Dwight Howard would stay in Orlando if the Magic could simply get Deron Williams, who the writer (erroneously) reports has refused to sign an extension with the Nets!! The two sides aren't even permitted to discuss a deal till July 1. A Thunder blogger, upset with what they see as Russell Westbrook's selfishness, thinks OKC should simply call Billy King and ask for Deron Williams. An international website agrees. In Utah, a writer for the Jazz's own fan site wistfully wondered if Deron Williams would return to Utah! Now that the Lakers will be abandoning the Triangle, they will need a top-flight point guard... Deron Williams of course! The Hawks? they were this close to grabbing Deron Williams, reports someone else. Not to mention the Knicks, one of whose beat writers suggested having Deron Williams in the New York metropolitan area will make it easier for him to switch teams in 2012... or earlier.
The baseline assumption in each of those scenarios is that D-Will couldn't possibly want to stay with the Nets. After all they are the Nets, for God's sakes. Maybe Williams will leave the Nets at the altar, either this summer or next. Maybe Billy King won't be able to surround him with top-flight players. Maybe Mikhail Prokhorov will be locked up in one of the Kremlin's towers by Russian knaves and forbidden from showering D-Will with American dollars. We doubt all those scenarios and keep handy our running list of quotes form the man whose middle name may be "arguably the best point guard in the NBA."
So here it is for all of the writers and bloggers out there...Deron Williams in his own words.
Draft Sleeper of the Week: Jon Leuer
When Jon Leuer went off to the Pre-Draft Combine, he was seen at a 6'10" power forward with a high BBIQ, a good range on his jumper and a good ball handler, a skill developed when he was running the point in high school before a growth spurt moved him into the front court. Problem was Leuer's athleticism was suspect, or worse.
Here's what Draft Express wrote about him, which was the conventional wisdom: "Upon first look at Leuer, it would be easy to write him off as a prospect due to his below average athleticism, slender frame, and a lack of a true position todefend."
Coming out of Chicago, things are different. First of all he measured a half-inch short of seven feet. But the big difference is that Leuer proved he has ABOVE average athleticism. His combine numbers are, well, shocking. Leuer's maximum vertical was measured at 36.5". For comparison sake, that's a half inch less than what Terrence Williams and Damion James posted at the 2009 combine...and Leuer is 6'11.5". His lane agility, another measure of athleticism, was similarly surprising. He finished tenth in the camp...and first among anyone other than a guard or small forward. The next smallest player in the top 10 was 6'7". In the 3/4 court sprint, he finished in the middle of the pack, with a 3.36 second mark. Again, by comparison, Brook Lopez finished dead last in 2008, at 3.57 seconds. He also bench pressed 185 pounds 14 times, a solid number for someone who's not considered strong.
What's the downside of those numbers. Here's Chad Ford:
Leuer, on the other hand, is a better athlete than we give him credit for. You can't fake those numbers. But when you watch him play, he doesn't really utilize that athleticism in his game the way other big athletes (JaJuan Johnson, for example) do. So while Leuer may be a good athlete, if it doesn't translate to his game, what's the point?
The Nets have now seen Leuer twice, at the Chicago Pre-Draft Combine and the Minnesota group workout, where one Nets scout said he had the best camp of anyone over the two-day period. He's also coming in for an individual workout at the PNY Center.
He's projected end of the first/beginning of the second. Others who will be dropping in the next few weeks: Andrew Goudelock of the College of Charleston who's rising up the boards; E'Twaun Moore of Purdue; and Corey Stokes of Villanova; all senior guards.
How does Leuer pronounce his name. It is Lew-er or Loy-er? The Nets of course already have a John Loyer, the assistant coach. Turns out it's Lew-er. Good.
The 2000 Draft - A cautionary tale
This year's draft is viewed as the worst since the one in 2000, when after Kenyon Martin was taken by the Nets, the next five players were Stromile Swift, Darius Miles, Marcus Fizer, Mike Miller, DerMarr Johnson and Chris Mihm. There were some decent players in the draft, late, but if this draft is like the 2000 Draft, hold your enthusiasm.
For example, the #27 and #36 picks in the 2000 draft yielded Primoz Brezec and Soumalla Samake, the latter a Net until Rod Thorn could package him in the Jason Kidd deal a year later. Both are out of the NBA as are Swift, Miles, Fizer, Johnson and Mihm. How'd Billy King do in that draft? He took Speedy Claxton at #20, a good value pick, and an eminently forgettable Mark Karcher of Temple, a Philly product. No harm, considering who was taken behind him. Later that year, King signed a 6'5" defensive specialist who hadn't been drafted: Raja Bell.
Where was the value? Jamal Crawford went at #8; Hedo Turkoglu at #16; Quinton Richardson at #18; two former Nets, Eddie House and Eduardo Najera at #37 and #38, and the arguably the best player taken that year, Michael Redd at #43. There were only three (one-time) All-Stars, Redd, Martin and Jamaal Magloire, another former Net., and only two players who won individual awards, Miller as Rookie of the Year (had to be somebody) and Crawford as Sixth Man of he Year. There are, however, 10 former Nets among the 30 players taken. What was the magic in finding value in a weak draft? With the exception of Crawford, they were all from big programs (or a top European team) and had played three or four years.
Was Prokhorov forced to run?
A couple of weeks before he announced he was ready to take over the "Just Cause" party in Russia, there were rumors that was ready to enter politics. He dismissed them as a joke, asking was it still April Fool's Day.
Then, on May 16, he made the formal announcement which he himself called, in televised remarks, "an uneasy and somewhat surprising decision."
One Russia analyst on Foreign Policy Magazine thinks that Prokhorov may have been forced to run. Julia Ioffe wrote:
Let's be honest: Most likely, this was not Prokhorov's idea. "He wasn't in any party before," said Andrei Belyak, a spokesman for Prokhorov's Onexim Group. "He didn't touch politics before." According to Belyak, it was "a proposal from the party," proposals that, in Moscow, tend to be offers you can't refuse. As Russian sociologist Denis Volkov told the New York Times, "Major businessmen are under the authorities' control. If the government says you have to head a party, you head a party." (Prokhorov has been the subject of one such political offer before: his idea to build the first Russian-made hybrid car, the Ë-mobile. According to one Onexim insider, the idea wasn't his at all; it was a pitch from the Kremlin. The idea for the title -- which, to a Russian ear sounds like "F-mobile" would to an American one -- well, that was intentional, and another story altogether.)
Makes David Stern sound like a pussy cat.
All those Brooklyn Tours
You're nobody if you haven't had a tour of the Barclays Center construction site. Brook Lopez, Deron Williams, Kris Humphries (but not the soon-to-be Mrs. Hump), Billy King, Bobby Marks, Milton Lee, Leo Ehrline, Christophe Charlier, reporters and photographers from local and international media, even us (twice)! We assume that following the Draft, whoever the Nets take will get a quick New York area geography lesson as well.
All that is prep work for the sale pitches that will begin in earnest soon. The Nets have sold about 44 of the 104 suites at Barclays Center. That means over the 15 months between now and Opening Night on September 28, 2012, they will have to sell 60, or nearly one every week. The remaining inventory is mostly the smaller suites, the $200,000 a year numbers that seat 10. That won't be easy. They also need to find sponsors for three big remaining naming rights categories: airlines, auto and consumer electronics. Those will be big ticket sponsorships and the
Speaking of marketing, we've seen a lot of Dr. J, Julius Erving, in Nets promotions lately, on the Nets "Past Present Future" materials in particular. We've seen him say some nice things about the Nets lately, too. Good to see and hear. The Nets won both their Dr. J-era ABA titles in New York, at the Nassau Coliseum. Wouldn't be hard to imagine the marketing operation push him out front on Long Island, in particular. After all, the LIRR pulls right into a station a block away Barclays Center and will be connected via an underground passageway to the "Transit Connection" at the arena's doorstep. Too bad Newsday, Long Island's newspaper, doesn't cover the Nets. Oh, we forgot: it's owned by the Dolans.
And speaking of Brooklyn, remember the property owner who advertised his space as an ideal location for a "Dave and Busters" club now says he was misunderstood and said the ad was not his idea, but a consultant's. Now he's thinking of a "Soho-style" club. "It’s certainly not going to be something rowdy. Whatever it is will cater to all the people who come to the neighborhood, not just the arena-goers," he says.
Kris and Kim
According to one rag, Kris Humphries has fallen victim to a giant conspiracy, that the Kardashian clan is trying to
In any event, the big news out of the engagement was the size of the ring, bigger than the one Lamar Odom gave Khloe Kardashian, bigger than the one Prince William gave Kate Middleton! Can he afford it on his NBA player's salary, even with a raise? Maybe not, but when a player shows up on the cover of "People" and in a photo spread in "GQ" the same day and trends worldwide on Google and Yahoo, expect a lot of endorsement deals, ones that will probably feature the happy couple and permit Mrs. Humphries to cross over into male-oriented products.
And to think this all began when a reality TV star went to a basketball game in Newark and thought to herself, "No. 43 is cute".
Final Note: Best Wishes to a Great Kidd
His departure was ugly, a headache actually. But no one should forget what he gave for six years: his all. He's still doing it at 38 years old and he will need to do it for another week and a half against the Miami Hoard, er Heat. We hope this ends well for him and that he gets fitted for a sparkly ring (not as bid as Kim's).
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What crap about Atlanta being "one of the few teams that talked to Utah regarding Deron Williams."
No one knew he was available. No one. Billy King landed him after joking suggesting about him.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
The ignorance morons like that Zach McCann guy exhibit really irritates me. He’s not only making up the part about Deron refusing to re-sign with us, he isn’t even aware that he couldn’t re-up with us even if he wanted to… Can these clueless writers at least get a clue about what they’re talking about before they start making up stuff like that? SMH.
That moron should be focusing on why Dwight hasnt signed his extension.
And worse yet, why he seems to suggest that the extension doesnt even exist.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 28, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I corrected him and he acknowledged he was wrong
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
This made me lol
Vujacic’s intensity in practice and ability to
be an irritant at defense since the team didn’t have much of an edge all season
I’m sure we get a senior or two in the draft, and maybe a young guy with a purchased pick or acquired from trade than can develop.
by Nets 12-70 on May 28, 2011 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
hahaha, word
Irritant defense? That guy means like Sasha’s matador defense on Ray Allen in the deciding possession of game 4 of the 2008 NBA Finals?
Off Topic:
Lets say the Cav’s get that deal done to get the second pick and take Williams. Then they put J.J. Hickson on the block, would we go after him?
by The Big Russian on May 28, 2011 5:22 PM EDT reply actions
Bro
there are 28 other teams besides the Nets and more than half of them can offer a better pakage.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
I think if we are rumored to have the ability
to put together a package for Dwight Howard, we might just be able to put one together for Hickson………just might.
by The Big Russian on May 28, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, we’re not moving Lopez for Hickson if that’s what you’re suggesting…
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
why?
we have Humphries at PF
love thy underdog
by lemmetakeutodamovies on May 28, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Hump is a FA
And even if he is back ( which is probably the case), we still need a backup. Or starter. Who knows if Hump will start next season…
He will be back
it is true we need a backup PF though. Rather sign one then have to trade, Hickson is a promising young player we would probably have to give up something solid.
love thy underdog
by lemmetakeutodamovies on May 28, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The Nets need a starter at PF.
Hump is good, but not the starting PF on a championship team, which is the goal as long as Deron Williams is around.
hickson is a starter?
love thy underdog
by lemmetakeutodamovies on May 28, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah he has a higher ceiling than Hump IMO
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
I wasn't saying Hickson is a starter.
I’m saying the Nets need to get a starter at PF that would allow Hump to come off the bench as a 6th man.
Hickson would be a great compliment
to Humphries. Hump is one of those guys who is a great player defensivley and vastly improved offensively, but is not one of those guys that championship contenders can have as stand alone starters, meaning that he needs to split time with a guy like Hickson in order to fortify the position. Its like instead of one star at PF, like Gasol or Dirk or Bosh who doesnt need a good backup, we have two good players at that position to fortify it as a strong position on the team.
by The Big Russian on May 28, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Its like if you have players value ratings
and their backup would need to complete the rating. For example if Dirk is a 90%, the you would need a 10% to back him up. Or a guy who does the opposites of what Dirk does, like post up, go hard after rebounds, more of a specialist.
by The Big Russian on May 28, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think they would compliment each other
they have similar games.
love thy underdog
by lemmetakeutodamovies on May 28, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
How?
Hickson is an offensive player and Hump is a defensive player…………simply
by The Big Russian on May 28, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
hickson has better post moves
but mostly his offensive comes the same as hump, offensive rebounds, putbacks, alley oops
love thy underdog
by lemmetakeutodamovies on May 28, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm just ignoring all trade rumors until it happens
dwight, deron, josh smith, westbrook, cp3. if there is a chance for 29 other teams to get one of these 5 then all 29 will think of a way to get them
so its like why speculate and berate these reporters? they fabricate everything anyway
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 28, 2011 5:39 PM EDT reply actions
if dwight has dallas on his list
Something fishy is going on
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 6:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
if dwight has dallas on his list
Something fishy is going on
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 6:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That would def. Raise the Steaks
most Net fans would refer to him as a Chicken tho. When do you think he would reVEAL where he is going?
I really hope we get Brooks
if he has anywhere near the level of drive to succeed like Kobe does then he will be an absolute steal.
damn G2
Anyway dwight considering dallas. Something fishy is going on good and bad for us.
Looking at ric recent chat
Orlando Dallas NJ Lakers.
This may be a long shot but as we heard before deron and dwight had an agreement to play with each other.
Remember how we heard dwight was upset when finding out deron was traded and orlando knew nothing.
Now its like if we can’t join in Orlando okay what other teams we both like.
Dallas. Deron home town. Great owner in cuban and been a winning team for a long time.
If that can’t happen then they tried to find a way in NJ if that can’t happen then dwight sets his target on LA
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 6:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don't know Bro
seems like a good option for Dwight, D-Will or no D-Will, it seems like a long shot to get both and hard at the same time, especially when two superstars are involved and none is on your team.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
just saying its
Strange dallas all of sudden is on this howard list.
Same home town as of Deron and u have to guess Dwill who has said many times family is important and wants to be closer to his fam dallas could be a place he is interested. Can he get there??? Likely not but still on their wish list.
Dwight lisiting. Dallas makes me believe he and deron have talked
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 6:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ugh, I can totally see it happening too.
With the Lakers and Spurs fading, it seems like the West is ripe for the taking. Additionally it takes both Dwight and Dwill out of the East where they wont go up against Miami in the playoffs. I’d bet the Mavs move heaven and earth to get it done, and these days, with the kind of leverage and back-room deals the players strike, neither the Nets or Magic will likely get anything of much value. Besides, the Mavs could gut their team as the Heat proved that players will take significant pay cuts to play with that kind of team. Finally, it seems like you don’t need to surround 2.5 superstars with too much in order to plow through the rest of the competition.
In a couple of years, wait and watch
If you get past Miami you basically win the finals, Dallas in 7.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
I think it's good news and bad news
good news dwight and deron seem to have an agreement to play with each other.
bad news… two other teams out rank the nets right now.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
By 2012 they can get as low as 34 million
if they get rid of brewer. It’s just dirk Haywood and Marion on the books.
Dwight and deron would have to sign for like 12 million each for that year to be at the cap. I don’t see us trading Deron to Dallas if I was the Nets I’ll make him choose NJ or FA.
My question is
is it really possible for the macs to get both. I don’t see the Mavs blowing it up after they reach the Finals and took care of the west convincingly
Haha, that's a good pic,
—How much was it?
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
I miss Chappelle.
$100 for the Heat winning in five (or less).
$250 for the Heat beating the Bulls.
$200 for the Heat reaching the finals.
$550.
So you're basing this
on a single chat by Ric Bucher where he power ranks Dwight’s top teams after being handed a piece of paper where they were numbered 1-4.
Bucher has inside info, no question…but who knows what he true preference locations is.
people believed him
a couple weeks when he had LA as 1 and nets as 2.
why the switch now??
because the nets fell to 3??
I mean if this is false why take anything else Ric says to be true?
if that was the case who is to say NJ is even on the list.
All I’m saying is that the same guy who said NJ was number 2 on Dwight list a couple weeks ago is now saying Dallas is number 2 seems strange.
Dallas coming out of no where.
So I just tried to see where the connection could lie.
Deron.
Not saying they both will end up in Dallas or even in NJ or will even play on the same team.
I was just speaking hypothetically from Ric’s words is all
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
if any other team made it out of the west...
if any other team was now pitted against miami, the same rumor would exist. its not dallas, its the best team in the western conference. it used to be LA, and it became apparent that they are no longer the only team worth considering (outside of the east).
so what you are saying then
the rumor is not credible then?? He stuck dallas into it because they made it out of the West.
why was LA fourth then?? why not OKC they are younger have young talented if that was the case why not have OKC they went further than the Lakers
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
you're asking these questions like i have the answers....
i think you’re reading too far into it. the point was that its not credible (imo) because he would have named the western conference champ in “dwight’s list” either way. i don’t think he has a clue, and it makes sense that dwight would want to immediately go to a contender in the conference he’s more historically likely to be traded to.
doesn’t mean any of it is actually going to happen.
I agree
but I find it funny this was the same guy who had nets believing Dwight could be in New Jersey because he said it was LA or Jersey nothing in between.
He switches the story to something else and now his credibility is called into question.
It seems if it’s not what someone wants then it’s not reliable source.
As I said before idk if this could happen or not. All I said if Dwight is really considering Dallas I do feel Deron is connected in some type of way.
You could be right too.
Maybe Dwight says wow if Chandler does that for them. Imagine what I would for Dallas but then again that would just make them more appealing to someone who family lives in Texas.
again this is all hypothetically speaking
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The Nets were never #2
Orlando has always been #1 and LA has been rumored to be #2.
And Dallas cannot bring in Dwill and Dwight w/ Dirk under contract. End of story.
not according to Ric
Ric Bucher
(1:59 PM)
Let’s put it this way: Dwight should want to go to Chicago and play with Rose. That combo would be Kobe-Shaqesque. But from all I hear, Dwight is looking at LA or NJ. Nothing in between.
that is what he said a couple weeks ago.
I never said both players could go to dallas or even one of them all I said if and key IF dallas is on his list I do believe him and Deron have talked about joining together and again that is good and bad for us.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He also said (and still says) that Rose is a better player than LeBron.
Bucher is an idiot.
yea
even so seems people believe this :idiot" when his rumors and inside sources are favoring their team.
If you look back a weeks ago when a new post of this chat debuted how many people said how much better than Chris S and how reliable he was.
they do believe his sources.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't speaking of his reporting ability, I was talking about his opinions.
I don’t think people believed that the Nets were on Howard’s list because Bucher reported it, but more because it just makes sense.
That’s not to say that his current “list” is incorrect — although, I don’t see how Dallas suits Howard better than LA or BK — it just means that Dallas doesn’t make much sense as a destination for Dwight.
As I stated before
I don’t know how true Dallas is as well.
The only way I could think of Dallas is that he looks at what Chandler has done for that team and knows he could be even more of an upgrade.
or
The whole him and Deron agreeing to play with each other.
again if it is true it works out better for the nets.
Dallas and Orlando can’t possible obtain both players so that leaves the Nets.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking at the salaries for the 2012 nets
Everyone besides Outlaw is an expiring contract. Am
I reading this wrong?
Team option on Djames. Lopez restricted. Farmar, petro and morrow last year of contract.
The only ones to keep
are Morrow and Lopez. I think Morrow is going to be a great shooter now with D-Will on the roster. and you keep Lopez and maybe use him as a sign and trade for Howard if Howard wants out of Orlando. This way Orlando gets very good big man without losing Dwight for nothing (although this is if the Lakers keep up their not trading Bynum approach).
by IrishPride187 on May 29, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
we will know deron true
intent once we offer the extension and the Nets can go from there
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
me too
Orl and TX have no state tax, which could sway their decision.
BK offers exposure and media
by DJ HeavyDuty on May 28, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol :-/
it was kind of a joke. You stated deron’s name twice, but I was never a great comedian. So it’s cool lol
I doubt very much
that there has been much of a switch in D12’s preferences.
If it were a big deal that Dallas has now moved into the second spot, Bucher would have written that. It would have been HUGE news that one of the Finals teams stands a chance at getting a player some people believe is the second best player in the NBA.
Also, he wouldnt have dumped it in his chat.
People who obsess about what Bucher thinks or doesnt think really need to seek some balance.
by Net Income on May 28, 2011 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
don't you post scan his chats looking to see if he mentions anything nets related
and post it here to be discussed????
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
no I am saying that is the pot calling the kettle black
I mean people discussing Ric opinion I mean if Ric mentions anything Nets and Dwight it is a story on Nets daily.
I mean who here is obsessing over the guy words.
I mean didn’t NI post some story of Nets being a possible destination for Lebron because someone told cuban “Good job you traded Lebron’s favorite PG.”
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Trust me, I am agreeing with you.
that is my sarcasm face. I guess it doesn’t work as well as the “sarcasm text”
no I know you are I'm just saying
how can he say someone needs to see balance all everyone is doing is discussing the chat.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
that doesnt mean
i take what he says in his chats as gospel.
i posted it as part of the other story on Howard, but if he did a story WITH DETAILS, it would have been a separate story.
Sorry you don’t understand.
I never believe anything these "experts" say
when they try and predict where players will end up, they are just guessing and assuming from common sense. I highly doubt Dwight grabs his notepad and writes his favorite teams to play for.
love thy underdog
by lemmetakeutodamovies on May 28, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I do believe CP3 did that last summer though
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on May 28, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
what Paul wants right now
is pretty meaningless. The NBA owns the Hornets and the NBA is not going to dump the Hornets franchise player before the team is sold (and possibly moved).
exactly
and it should also be noted that two or three weeks ago, he said that Howard and his advisors were sitting down to determine if he wanted to leave Orlando. Then, if he decided he wanted to leave, he would consult with his advisors again to determine where he wanted to go.
There’s been nothing to suggest that he made the first decision.
Plus didn't Hollinger say in a chat a couple days ago that if the Lakers really consider Bynum to be untouchable
that the Nets would have the advantage at getting Dwight. He made no mention of the Mavs even as a possibility. So who knows what Dwights thinking.
"I just copped me an all-things, a professional ball team
Tell me I ain't the illest hustler ya'll seen"
People who obsess about what Bucher thinks or doesnt think really need to seek some balance.
Why isn’t this post rec’d??
by MrDollarBills on May 29, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t like Leuer. Looks like a slightly better Steve Novak to me.
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
miscellaneous
Jon Leuer sound a lot like Jason Smith – same height , same surprising athletic statistics at the combine.
The Prokhorov story makes sense to me. The out of the blue announcement made no sense.
Ryan Anderson averaged 10 rpg in college
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
what are the odds....
that eventually someone stands up for the Nets and discusses the future of the team with deron being a part of it?
the rumors and speculation will have D.Will playing in milwaukee before someone acknowledges the very real possibility of him playing with the Nets in brooklyn and for years to follow.
i don’t want to get thrown onto a david stern tangent, but you’d think it’d be in the best interest of the league for another team in a huge market to be attracting attention, new fans, sponsorships and eventually, winning credentials…
there have been so many worse front offices and owners in the NBA than the Nets’. since 12-70, this organization has been a shining example of how to battle back from obscurity. maybe i’m biased, but i will never understand the unwarranted hate and general apathy toward the Nets.
winning in brooklyn will cure many ailments
in which i will say to those that hated…..BOO YA IN YOUR FACE
NA NA NA POO POO !!!!!!!
by blazin pp face on May 28, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like a plan.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 28, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
This is what i hate about the media
nobody gives the nets a chance to ever be a good team
everybody thinks they will be irrelevant forever and that the 2 finals were just flukes and only happened because it was a weak eastern conference
yes i know deron is leaving, the knicks are getting him, the nets will be at the bottom of the conference forever and will NEVER be elite, we will just continue to be the step child of the knicks for the simple fact that they were here first
nobody pays attention to the fact that their last two titles were before our two ABA titles, and the ABA doesnt even exist anymore, and the fact that they have ZERO thats right ZERO playoff wins in 10 years
this team will never have success
then the funny part is when this team does eventually become elite, the media will be all over them
makes me sick
OT: marshon brooks
the dude has a max vert of 38.5
for comparison sake, the great t-will was 37.0
Jeffrey Sutton 2.0
I think we should take a chance on him if he's there
looks like he can create his own shot
by MrDollarBills on May 29, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
How is Marshon Brooks not projected higher? What are we not being told?
We might have to trade up from 27 to get this kid. He would be a nice compliment to Deron Williams in the back court.
LETS GO NETS!

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