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The Transformation of The Hump

A year ago, he was unwanted, a player who disappointed the front office by opting to stay another year on his contract, costing the Nets $3.2 million in salary and cap space. Then, in order to keep open the possibilities of bringing in TWO max contracts, he was offered in a trade, along with a Nets first round pick, to a Western Conference team.

Finally, he was relegated to fourth string power forward in training camp, behind the newly acquired Troy Murphy, uber-pick Derrick Favors and opening night starter Joe Smith.  Even Travis Outlaw would be given a shot at the four. Of course rest is history.

But now, Hump is a double-double machine...and as Kim Kardashian's honey, an international celebrity.  Nothing shows the transformation more than a fashion spread in GQ, out Monday.  It's all "beefcake", as they say in the modeling trade, except for one comment. When asked what fans should watch if there's a lockout, Hump responded: "Keeping Up with the Kardashians."

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Hopefully he keeps the momentum going. I like him a lot and would love him to get better and better.

In my Crystal Ball i see...
Deron Brook AK-47 Hump Smith

by OneCGuy on May 23, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Hump showed plenty of signs of domination last year but Avery and Billy had nothing to go by.

Nets would not have won even 7 games last season without Hump.

Kiki did such a good job of suppressing Hump’s value that Thorn could have renegotiated Hump’s contract for less over 3 years.
If Billy King instead of Thorn been around, he might have recognized that possibility.

3 years for $7.5 million total and I think Hump would have signed last June. Had they listened to me, Nets would have saved about $13 million.

by jerry25 on May 23, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

i hope and think has changed his game around. He reminds me of David Lee with the Knicks. As much as i like hump, ill trade him in a heart beat for josh smith, danny granger, or Derrick Williams.

by Jonathan Reynoso on May 23, 2011 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Hump really did improve his game last year

But it really is ridiculous that he was behind Joe Smith(!) at the beginning of the year. Smith shouldn’t have even been in the league, much less starting.

One gets the idea that the Nets completely lucked into finding Hump. Between Smith’s poor play, Favors’ age, and Murphy’s injury, the Nets literally had nobody competent at the position. But you have to credit Hump with showing he deserves to be a starter, with improving his game (particularly his decision-making — he changed from a complete chucker to someone who shoots extremely judiciously), and with being patient with the Nets other priorities.

Now its time for the Nets to ante up. A contract at half the pay rate that Zach Randolph received seems perfectly appropriate to me. That’s about $8M per year.

by A.S. on May 23, 2011 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Really ridiculous luck: we got Hump for dumping Najera on the Mavs!

Think about it.

not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.

by John at the Jersey Shore on May 23, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hump should get 7per 4yr deal.

by power_njerz on May 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

It's not ridiculous to Kim

She probably will have the top photo on her bedroom wall, when Hump isn’t around!

by jerry25 on May 23, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

“My name is willie……BEAMEN”
“I keep the ladies…….CREAMIN”
“And my faaaaans”
“I Got em SCREAMIN”

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 23, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT

An opportunity may have presented itself, but unfortunately the Nets are not a good position for it

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/05/21/hawks-and-josh-smith-may-have-had-enough-of-each-other/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

The Hawks might finally be willing to trade Smith. But equally important is that Smith may actually welcome a trade. He needs a fresh start, with a new organization, new teammates and new fans – all some place far away from his hometown.

Everything we know about Atlanta is that they want a starting caliber center to move Horford to PF. Unfortunately we only have one, and is not a likely trading chip. The Clippers have a wealth of options with Kaman though, they could do deals for Josh Smith or Iguodala and have one of the most athletic teams in the entire NBA

by muwu on May 23, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I suggested awhile back

The Nets could essentially absorb his contract and send them a pick and maybe another player, allowing them to go after one of the free agent centers. If an amnesty clause comes to fruition, and they get Marvin off of their books, that helps them as well

by JerseysFinest. on May 23, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

No real free agent center out there except Nene

And even with Smith’s contract gone, they still have around 55 million in salaries next year AKA no cap space

by muwu on May 23, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smith is repped by agent Wallace Prather

His other clients are Derrick Favors, Anthony Morrow, Sundiata Gaines and Mario West.

HELLLLLOOOOO

by Net Income on May 23, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this case that relationship means very little. We have nothing the hawks need besides maybe farmar.

by power_njerz on May 23, 2011 3:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

ever hear of a three team trade?

no GM has done more of them than Billy King.

And trust me, when you do favors (pardon the pun) for an agent, you develop a trust with him…and his clients.

by Net Income on May 23, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

They also want to get closer

To Prokys team is what it seems they see big money in Brooklyn and this international thing that is about to go down.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on May 23, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont see anyone we can realistically trade for him

The Hawks want a center. I think most here agree that Brook shouldnt be traded for Smith. I mean, you could, but then who do you trade for Dwight. You cant. You have to hope he comes in free agency, but then Dwight loses millions, does he not?

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on May 23, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would you do a trade...

Brook, Farmar, Outlaw, Morrow, pick/s and money for Josh Smith and Joe Johnson?

by muwu on May 23, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell no

Why do we need JJ? Besides the fact he might have the worst contract in the NBA.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on May 23, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because he's still an above average NBA player

And with Brook gone, you’re gonna need some scoring. As bad as his contract may be, he can still do 20 ppg in the playoffs. Besides, if you’re gonna trade Brook (which is the only way to get Smith) you have to get max value back. We’re now playing for the present, we’re playing to be good right now, not 3-5 years from now.

by muwu on May 23, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah still no

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on May 23, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship

Mission accomplished thus far.

by BigTom on May 23, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

It ain't trickin' if 'you know.' Baby, I 'you know.' Mama, you are with the right man; Juno. Tell me what you wanna do; I will make it happen. I just wanna get you home and uh, uh, uh, uh, oh.

by Dopeness on May 23, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

nooo

j smoove especially not for that much or anything that involves brook.

by Andrew Flynn on May 23, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd trade Brook only if we get Smith PLUS another good player back

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on May 23, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

so what’s the likelihood we get Josh Smith – what are our odds?

by fastbreak7 on May 23, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pass

I Like Humph more than Smith, maybe cause i’m old school. We need soled play with high I.Q, Humph is not the brightest but he’s lightyears ahead of Smith. Smiths High flying dunks and block rarly impact the game, the little that Humph do, does! don’t under value Humph.I never understood why so many hated on him.

by Zartan on May 23, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm having my doubts about kris Humphries...if u look at his production by minutes played

he’s basically the same player he’s has always been.
I do think the Nets should sign him but only if it is a good deal for the team.

by netsball on May 23, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

you were saying something about shorts?

I’m sorry, I was distracted by something else in this picture

by MrDollarBills on May 23, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I LOVE HER SO MUCH

POST MOAR PICS PLEASE. SHE IS

-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.

by NetLogic on May 23, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Save my life, I'm going down for the last time...

…Woman with the sweet lov’in, better than a white line.
Bring a good feeling ain’t had in such a long time.
Save my life, I’m going down for the last time…"

"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"

by aunt-B on May 23, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one can defense

-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.

by NetLogic on May 23, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's ridiculous

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on May 23, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think some of you may be in for disappointment

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on May 23, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

singler

What are his strengths weaknesses, do we really want him?

by SteViePoPzBK on May 23, 2011 4:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

interesting dichotomy today

Chad Ford, who doesnt think he is an NBA player now has him at #43.

Jonathan Givony, who likes him, has Singler moving up to #24 after the combine.

Singler was asked what separates him from the rest of the players at the Combine.

“A degree,” he responded.

by Net Income on May 23, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

such a slight towards chase

chase can jump with the best of them

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 23, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing like Chase

Budinger is athletic wish we had him on this team can do a lot of things on the court.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on May 23, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah well

I remember chase kicking our ass earlier in the year so singler should hope hes near as good.

by Andrew Flynn on May 23, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Josh smith is a pipe dream. I see us with a better chance with Howard.

Orl knows they have to make a move. Atl doesn’t have to deal smith. Plus they can get Kaman back from the Clippers which is a better deal for them than what we can offer.

by power_njerz on May 23, 2011 4:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i'm sorry

but there is NO ONE on this board who thought the Nets would walk away with DERON WILLIAMS at the deadline. NO ONE.

by Net Income on May 23, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

We were the best trading partner in the NBA

before we traded for DWill. It’s a little different now. It’s not a matter of who’s available but what do we have to offer.

Life as a Net fan
Can it get any worse? There's always tomorrow.

by msm2 on May 23, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We had Devin & Favors, & 1st round pick

which were attractive pieces. Don’t really have those pieces right now..

by Genesis336 on May 23, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

thing is no one but the jazz knew deron was on the block

as soon as ATL lets the rumors marinate and circulate you dont think a new orleans, clippers, warriors, suns, etc arent going to make an offer for him?

nets just dont have enough right now to make a fair or overcompensated deal for him

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 23, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are forever the optimist but i dont see this being a possibility at all unless Atl just wants to hit the restart button.

by power_njerz on May 23, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

my point is

stranger things have happened THIS YEAR.

by Net Income on May 23, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually think it's a lot more realistic than some of the proposals people have been making here recently

like Marc Gasol or Nene Hilario

2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship

Mission accomplished thus far.

by BigTom on May 23, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Nene is unrealistic, good sir?

It ain't trickin' if 'you know.' Baby, I 'you know.' Mama, you are with the right man; Juno. Tell me what you wanna do; I will make it happen. I just wanna get you home and uh, uh, uh, uh, oh.

by Dopeness on May 23, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not at all if the Nets go hard after him and front load up

Get in his ear I would think there is a good chance he’s a Net.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on May 23, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

he wants too much $$$$

we have 18 mill available… and he wants 12+

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on May 23, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You my plan...

Your objection wasn’t too not having the money necessary, it was to giving it to him.

It ain't trickin' if 'you know.' Baby, I 'you know.' Mama, you are with the right man; Juno. Tell me what you wanna do; I will make it happen. I just wanna get you home and uh, uh, uh, uh, oh.

by Dopeness on May 23, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

everything

2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship

Mission accomplished thus far.

by BigTom on May 23, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense.

It ain't trickin' if 'you know.' Baby, I 'you know.' Mama, you are with the right man; Juno. Tell me what you wanna do; I will make it happen. I just wanna get you home and uh, uh, uh, uh, oh.

by Dopeness on May 23, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I replied to you below. I'm not retyping it lol :)

2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship

Mission accomplished thus far.

by BigTom on May 23, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that with Outlaw at SF?

not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.

by John at the Jersey Shore on May 23, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

This comment along with

Singler is like Chase budinger has NI rolling over in his grave.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on May 23, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

billy king get it done

outlaw, petro, and future conditional pick for oden and batum

blazers falling apart. they just fired GM rich cho

no gm going into a draft for a second year in a row.

cho wanted to suspend roy in the playoffs for wanting superstar treatment on those bad knees. wanted to make him amnesty victim. wants to blow up team and build around crash and LMA

Paul allen and mcmilliam still in love with roy and think they are still legit title contenders.

they delusional up there in “rip” city. we know they ripping something cough rasheed cough stoudemire cough wells cough miles cough z-bo cough.

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 23, 2011 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Not happening

Why would they do that? They would rather have an injured Oden than take on Outlaw’s and Petro’s contracts. And then your throwing in Batum? Nonsense

by fumblesnout on May 23, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

Wow, they are smoking something potent up there in Oregon if they think that Roy is still worth a damn at this stage.

by MrDollarBills on May 23, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would you do Westbrook for Deron?

Okc is unhappy with his play in the playoffs. Everyone is saying Durant needs a pass 1st pg with him.

Would you?

by power_njerz on May 23, 2011 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

westbrook, harden, and pick swaps

maybe i get interested

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 23, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

hell no

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on May 23, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he is leaving

That’s probably one of the better offers out there. But it’s too early to speculate now

by fumblesnout on May 23, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe if i was a thunder fan

which i am but NETS FIRST

Brook Lopez is the MAN!

by netsareboss on May 23, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hes been making some pretty bad mistakes throughout the playoofs

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on May 23, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that D-Will's head I see?

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on May 23, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

bummed?

Josh is a great defensive player and finisher, he gets in trouble when he settles for midrange shots.

by danxcr on May 23, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

i meant i was bummed when i realized it was a dream.

by shane gayle on May 23, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is this Josh Smith love afair??

Melo suxs and he’s worse, why do you want him?? I mean, your free to like any player, i just don’t see it. is it a under 23 thing? is there anyone over 25 that like this guy? plz answer so i can do some evaluation.

by Zartan on May 23, 2011 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

is that the barometer?

to only want players that are better than carmelo anthony? (btw, dislike carmelo. whatever, i’m not a fan. but the idea that he sucks in utter nonsense).

smith is a defensive player and a big-time athlete, primarily. he’s not a go-to guy and nobody here is saying he is.

by shane gayle on May 23, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on May 23, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm over 25. I don't know what that has to do with it, though.

This team needs to run. Pair Brook and Nene or Marc and you take away the greatest asset that this team could have, which is a power running game. Deron has a great power running game. So does Josh. We already have a slow-of-foot Brook, a slow-of-foot Anthony Morrow. We need to build around our best player’s strength rather than mitigate it.

@NBRITM above you asked me why not Hilario (he’ll always be Hilario to me) — how about the money he will command is a back-breaker, he’s a poor fit next to Brook, he’s a poor fit with Deron, there are better options such as Josh Smith (just using that as an example since it’s right here for the taking), plus the Nets have never been a prime attraction for free agents. Sorry, but we’re still in Newark next year, still w/out Deron signed long term, what will be the difference this summer from last? I think most of the wheeling and dealing will be done via trade, stuff that nobody’s anticipating. LOL at trading Jordan Farmar for a second round pick. You’re incredibly devaluing him. And leaving Gaines (a call up player) as the back up and basically giving away Farmar for a pick you can buy next year anyway? That’s just amazing to me. :)

What is the identity we’re trying to achieve w/ this team? I say build around your best player’s strength(s). A plodding twin towers approach would be failure to do so. Josh at least fits the mold.

2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship

Mission accomplished thus far.

by BigTom on May 23, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nene is career 13/6 big man....

He wants 12+ Million dollars? ESPECIALLY After a new CBA?

Photobucket

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on May 23, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, essentially I was talking to a brick wall.

Sigh.

It ain't trickin' if 'you know.' Baby, I 'you know.' Mama, you are with the right man; Juno. Tell me what you wanna do; I will make it happen. I just wanna get you home and uh, uh, uh, uh, oh.

by Dopeness on May 23, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

A few things:

First off, I don’t know who NBRITM is.

Second, I’m not sure how Nene is a poor fit next to Brook. I also certainly don’t understand how he’s a poor fit with Deron. Nene is the perfect pick-n-roll player; he would, in effect, be Carlos Boozer on steroids. Nene isn’t an elite rebounder, but he’s certainly not a bad one. I also believe that Brook will push his rebound-rate up to somewhere in the fifteen range, next season.

Plus the Nets have never been a prime attraction for free agents. Sorry, but we’re still in Newark next year, still w/out Deron signed long term, what will be the difference this summer from last.

If that’s what you believe — fine.

The point of trading Farmar was to remove his cap-hold, not to acquire value for him. If the Nets can get more for him — great. The idea was to add flexibility.

What is the identity we’re trying to achieve w/ this team? I say build around your best player’s strength(s). A plodding twin towers approach would be failure to do so. Josh at least fits the mold.

Please elaborate on that. If you’re implying that the team needs to take a run-n-gun approach then I don’t see much success in the future. In the playoffs, you need to be able to execute in the half-court offense and play consistently good defense.

It ain't trickin' if 'you know.' Baby, I 'you know.' Mama, you are with the right man; Juno. Tell me what you wanna do; I will make it happen. I just wanna get you home and uh, uh, uh, uh, oh.

by Dopeness on May 23, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way I see it

We need guys who are good defenders who can get out on the break who can sprint up court and finish with power. This would be the best compliment to Deron’s strengths. Remember, Kenyon, Kerry, and RJ were great compliments to Jason because they all did those things. In the half court, they struggled a bit, but in the half court offense, we have Brook whereas that team(s) had Todd and Dikembe lol. So right there you’re already a little better in the half court offense.

I’m saying, Josh Smith, Thad Young, plus a SG (I don’t know — we need not a marquee guy, just someone who can be a defensive pest on the perimeter ala Kerry to contrast Morrow who would fill the opposite role along the perimeter on the other end of the floor).

I think Deron + defensive-minded SG + Thad + Josh + Brook could definitely “play consistently good defense” (to your point). To your other point “able to execute in the half court,” well, bring in Morrow in the Lucious Harris mold, and I think with Brook and Morrow and Deron we might have reasonable success on offense. Wouldn’t be great, but you can’t have everything unless you have multiple All Stars on your team. BTW, Morrow is a better shooter than Lucious, so there’s that, too.

Anyway, I think that team can play D. It can get out on the break with abandon and finish strong at the rim and play up to Deron’s strengths. It wouldn’t be pitiful in the half court (not less than the Kidd-era Nets, at least). More importantly, the pieces fit together. I don’t understand the twin towers approach whatsoever as it pertains to complimenting Deron’s strengths. Nor has it even been proven to work in the modern era. Don’t mention the Spurs, because Duncan and Robinson fit together and were better players than Brook and Marc/Nene.

2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship

Mission accomplished thus far.

by BigTom on May 23, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tom, this isn't me calling you old, but I think you're living in the past.

Building around your point-guards so-called “strengths” isn’t a recipe to success. Who was the last great point-guard to win a championship? Isaiah Thomas.

You need bigs to win in the NBA (unless you have two top-25 players of all-time on your team) and size. It appears that you and I have very different philosophies on what you need to win in this league; as a result, it is possible that we’ll be unable to come to a consensus (what a surprise).

I believe that the team I outlined in my fanpost is far superior to the one you just mentioned, but I’m aware that you disagree. You would have one of the NBA’s best front-lines (history shows us that this is a recipe for success), some good perimeter defenders, depth and of course, Deron Williams.

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by Dopeness on May 23, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

younger guys get caught up with flash over substence

Outside of a few highlights, i can’t see what Smith brings. I may be wrong but if we get him some how, i truely hope i am.

by Zartan on May 23, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

The issue Hawks fans have with Josh Smith is...

that he can at times show to be one of the most dangerous players in the league and then a game later he ends up looking like the worst player on the floor.

Maybe playing with D-Will could take serious pressure off of him? After all, D-will knows how to make crappy players look good. Could he not make an All-Star that much better??

Would he be worth risking our shot at D12?

by NJQuestCat on May 23, 2011 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Blazers just fired Rich Cho

The Portland Trail Blazers announced today that they have parted ways with Rich Cho, the team’s general manager of basketball operations.

“The fit between Rich and our team simply wasn’t right,” said Trail Blazers President Larry Miller. “This was a tough move because I respect Rich and he’s a good person with many strong skills. But it simply wasn’t a good match.”

Trail Blazers Director of College Scouting Chad Buchanan will serve as acting general manager. Buchanan has been with the team for four years. Buchanan and Head Coach Nate McMillan will report to Miller until a permanent replacement is hired.

by power_njerz on May 23, 2011 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe....

they heard cho secretly wanted to bring outlaw back to the blazers….sorry someone had to be that guy that mentions outlaw

by Andrew Flynn on May 23, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://twitter.com/#!/DraftExpress/status/72700341317144576

http://otrbasketball.com/forums

Yankees-Nets-Broncos

by OTRWaldo on May 23, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

hrmmm

would the nets offer better?

by Andrew Flynn on May 23, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends

We can offer them Lopez… but they already got Z-Bo and Gasol

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
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by Claud on May 23, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldnt trade Lopez for Gay

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by NetsMets4Life on May 23, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's not a good offer for rudy

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on May 23, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

activity league wide!

me likes.

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on May 23, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that a joke?

no hickson or varjeao or ramon sessions involved?

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 23, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we got Hump for Najera.

So happy we traded Najera away.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on May 23, 2011 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Crap!!!!

Malcolm Lee is now projected to go with the 32nd pick and Jeremy Tyler with with the 35th.

Damn…. I really want to those guys on the Nets.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on May 23, 2011 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

and what has happened to Justin Harper’s stock? wow

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on May 23, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmao ;)

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on May 23, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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