NetsDaily Off-Season Report #6
It's getting drafty in here. With workouts picking up in frequency and importance, we take a look at the cost of buying a pick in the Draft and how it's gotten a lot more expensive since Billy King bought the Nets' 51st pick for as little as $125,000 in 2003 and took Kyle Korver as well as our first international Draft Sleeper of the Week. We also offer a little inside information on free agency, look at where Nets celebrities rank on the Forbes' Celebrity 100 (and where they don't); examine Mikhail Prokhorov's jump into Russian politics, provide a picture of the view from his Super Suite at Barclays and surprise with an item on Brooklyn's popularity in odd places.
Every Sunday, we’ll be updating the Nets’ off-season with bits and pieces of information, gossip, etc. to help take the edge off missing the playoffs, relying on the Nets’ beat reporters and others who have slipped interesting stuff into larger stories, blogs, tweets...plus our own reporting and analysis.
Free Agency
We're not hearing that much on free agency. We're hearing all the same names: Andrei Kirilenko of the Jazz, Jeff Green and Glen Davis of the Celtics, J.R. Smith of the Nuggets, etc. We're also hearing Deron Williams talking about the need for veterans with winning experience. One other thing we're hearing that is not so well-known: the Nets see this summer, not next, as the time to make the big moves, the time to be aggressive. Anticipating that the CBA will get increasingly restrictive, the time for big deals may be now, we're told, whether that's going for Dwight Howard or making a big splash in free agency...or both. Do that and you might be able to wrap up D-Will early. He's said he'd like it done so that it's not a distraction. So would we.
We'd like to say, we'll know soon enough, but with the possibility of a lock-out, we can't. Once the dust clears, though, expect a lot of activity and hopefully results.
Nets Celebrity Swagger
It cannot be denied. The Nets do have a bit of a celebrity swagger. Their majority owner may be the most interesting man in the world. Their most prominent minority owner likes to be called a "global icon" and two of their players date top-line celebrities.
So, where do they stand on Forbes list of the 100 biggest celebrities, as measured by earning power and a whole lot of indices of fame. Mikhail Prokhorov didn't make the list apparently because he just mines the gold that goes into everyone else's bling. But Jay-Z did, winding up at No. 38, 11 places behind his wife, Beyonce' Knowles. So did the future Mrs. Sasha Vujacic, aka Maria Sharapova, who checked in at No. 80. After all, she is the most marketable woman athlete in the world. Sorry, Kris and Kim. All your posing doesn't translate to the needed big bucks. The cutoff point for the Top 100 was $10 million and a lot of publicity.
Draft Sleeper of the Week
Davis Bertans is the second youngest player in the NBA draft, all of 18 years old until November 12. By comparison, Derrick Favors turned 19 in July last year. So the 6'10" Latvian is extraordinarily young for the NBA...only Brandon Knight is younger than him this year.
But oh my, can this Latvian shoot. And he has a good grasp of English as well. As anyone who remembers the early days of Zoran Planinic and Nenad Krstic wlll tell you, that's important. Bertans may still be growing, too. He has sprouted nearly eight inches in the last two years and was listed at 6'7" on the Nike Hoops Summit program last month, only to show up at 6'10" in shoes.
How good of a shooter is he? A Hoops Summit coach says he is the best pure European shooter to show up at the Oregon event since Dirk Nowitzki (and yes, he know how many times that's been said, as if you can clone one of the game's all-time greats).
His release is quick and high and gets results, as this scouting video shows. Otherwise, Draft Express notes, he is not totally one-dimensional: "While Bertans clearly isn't a spectacular athlete, he did throw down some pretty impressive dunks during the practice sessions. He moves fluidly enough that he projects to be a more of a true small forward, rather than a player limited to only a stretch-four type role.
Although projected in the Nets' range earlier in the month, he's now moved up to the early 20's.
Watching some of our previous Sleepers in this week's Draft Combine, we see both Kenneth Faried and Jeremy Tyler moving up and Kyle Singler moving down a bit.
Pricing out picks
Back in 2003, Billy King made one of the smartest moves of his tenure as a 76er executive: buying the Nets' 51st pick in the draft from Rod Thorn and taking Kyle Korver who 10 years later is still knocking them down for the Bulls. Nets fans of a certain age remember that move, none too happily. What's less well-remembered is what a great deal it was. According to various reports, the pick cost Philly either $125,000 or $140,000.
Even in a bad draft like this year's, picks in the second round are likely to cost considerably more. In 2008, the Cavaliers paid out $300,000 to buy the 56th pick and take Sasha Kaun of Kansas, who's still playing for CSKA Moscow. Then in 2009, the Rockets paid out $2.25 million for the 44th pick. This one was well worth it. Houston got Chase Budinger of Arizona who was terrific for a second rounder this season. And in 2010, the Trailblazers traded their 44th pick and $2 million in cash to move up ten places, where they picked Armon Johnson out of Nevada. He spent a good part of his rookie season in the D-League.
A first round pick is going to cost a team a minimum of $3 million in cash and perhaps a player, a pick in a future draft or draft rights to a promising Euro-Stash...$3 million is the maximum allowed in any transaction. As we've noted before, the league's second richest player, Paul Allen of the Blazers, has laid out nearly $20 million to buy picks in the last seven years. Some were hits, others misses. Here's the list to remind you.
--On Draft Night 2004, the Blazers sent $3 million and the expiring contract of Eddie Gill to the Nets and got a Nets’ first round pick (#23 – Viktor Khryapa of Russia). The Nets then cut Gill.
–On Draft Night 2006, the Blazers sent $3 million to the Suns and got a Suns’ first round pick (#27 – Sergio Rodriguez of Spain)
–On Draft Night, 2007, the Blazers sent $3 million to the Suns and got a Suns’ first round pick. (#24 – Rudy Fernandez of Spain).
--On Draft Night 2007, the Blazers sent an undetermined amount of cash, almost certainly $3 million, and the rights to second round pick, Derrick Byars to the 76ers and got a 76ers first round pick (#30 pick Petteri Koponen of Finland). Byars was later cut by the 76ers.
–On Draft Night, 2008, the Blazers sent $3 million in cash to the Hornets and got a Hornets’ first round pick (#27 – Darrell Arthur of Kansas). Arthur was immediately sent to the Rockets, with a smaller amount of cash, in return for draft rights to Nicolas Batum of France, taken at #25.
--On Draft Night, 2010, the Blazers sent $2 million in cash and the 44th pick to the Warriors for the 34th pick which as noted above was used to take Johnson.
How many times did the Nets buy a pick in the Ratner Era. Zero. They claim they tried in 2005 to take Monta Ellis, who was taken at #40 and almost spent money in 2008 (as it turned out wisely) to buy a late first rounder to take Chris Douglas-Roberts. There was even talk of the Nets considering a late second round pick in 2008 to take Jaycee Carroll out of Utah State. Didn't happen in any case.
Prokhorov Poll: "Should I change the name of my...party?"
Remember a year ago, Prokhorov asked reporters (and most everyone else he met) whether he should change the name of the team? Well, he's doing it again, this time with the name of the political party he is about to head...Just Cause. "Do I need to change the name of 'Just Cause'?" Didn't change the name of the team but probably will change the name of the party. He has rejected "Coca-Cola". (No really, he has.)
This is a momentous event in Moscow and for him, but we're told don't expect it to affect Prokhorov's ownership of the Nets. He's still spending money on the team, still excited about Deron Williams. We are told even his publisher sister, Irina, is excited!
For the record, here is how he announced his entry into politics on his blog:
"As you probably know I took for himself a difficult decision to enter politics. And in late June, the parliamentary party 'Just Cause' will make a decision regarding my candidacy for the post of manager. If appropriate, the party is waiting for reconstruction. We plan to make the party as open to new ideas. In the future we will open a special portal through which we constantly communicate with our voters, to accumulate new ideas and attract bright people who share our views, discuss all of the most acute problems, form and hone the party's position on various issues, etc. In general, to interact and openly discuss current problems with all our colleagues and opponents.
"All this in the future, but for now, as a young politician wanted to ask: And which party is necessary for you personally? How do you see a new party that could represent and defend your interests? Do I need to change the name of 'Just Cause'? Who do you trust and who you think I should invite to the party? What are the most urgent problems to be solved right now?
"Send me your thoughts on this topic. For me it is very interesting and important. I want you to also ask for a brief submitted to: Who are you from, how old you are. This will help me better understand who I am and in the dialogue who are our supporters, and who are our opponents.
"Waiting for your answers.
"PS Another wanted to tell you that in order to confirm the status of Kremlin project, yesterday I still decided to make a call to the Kremlin, and to inform of his decision to enter politics."
And also for the record, here is what David Stern responded when Ben Couch of the Nets asked him about Prokhorov:
"During the preseason, they played in China, and they stopped in Russia on the way for a clinic in Moscow. There's been a lot of publicity in the global sphere, and they've played two regular-season games in London, and you can't do much more than that, in terms of a franchise. But it's also an attitude, in terms of his understanding of the global importance of his team.
"And who knows? He may be getting ready to challenge Mr. Putin for President of Russia; he announced today that he was going to (lead) a political party, so we'll see where that goes. I was trying to think whether that might disqualify him (as an owner), but I don't think so – we have a US Senator (Bucks owner Herb Kohl) and maybe we'll have a Russian Minister.
Finally, for those concerned, Prokhorov's entrance into politics will hurt him with the Kremlin, here's how President Dmitry Medvedev welcomed him.
"I think that our political sector would benefit if it increases in size, if in addition to those who help to express the left-wing views, who represents the leftist views of the State Duma, political parties and the center will still representatives of right-wing conservative circles. then our parliament will be more representative".
In fact many in the Russian political punditry believe Prokhorov's party is there just for show...to make people think the Russian system is more pluralistic than it seems.
Now, concluding the Russian political portion of our programming, here's something we picked up this week: the view from Prokhorov's Super Suite...Click to enlarge...where he can entertain top Russian politicians, starting in 16 months.
Final Note: Hello, Brooklyn
Remember last week when we wrote about how the Nets are planning to use Brooklyn as a globalization platform, capitalizing on the borough's international reputation for cool and its history as a melting pot.
Well, closer to home, the Nets could use Brooklyn to gain fans among girls. It turns out that "Brooklyn" was the 34th most popular name for girls in 2010. Maybe it was just Brooklyn Decker's popularity. No matter. It turns out the name was the most popular in the upper Midwest and Utah. In North and South Dakota and Utah, Brooklyn was the sixth most popular name among girls. Who knew? Probably Yormark.
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You must feel all sorts of good right now.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
They better have a sweet logo for Brooklyn.
Because Brooklyn itself is popular and sells, Brooklyn in an awesome font will sell through the roof.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
if there were only a way to...
…get that “Brooklyn” font from the Dodgers. With a winning team…what? Wait…is that cash registers chinging?
by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on May 21, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, this is what I've been saying
One other thing we’re hearing that is not so well-known: the Nets see this summer, not next, as the time to make the big moves, the time to be aggressive.
I would not be shocked at all to see King trade our or Houston’s 2012 pick to move up in this draft.
The time to win (aka sign Deron) is NOW. I fully expect the aggressiveness to be strong, which is exciting for an off-season as a fan.
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Whoever they want
I’m finally at a point where I feel comfortable with the staff the Nets have hired, and the money being paid to people who do this professionally for a living.
I’m just going to sit back and enjoy.
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+1
i think me and a few ppl on this forum were happy that King was hired… and didnt scream murder …. in KING I TRUST
by blazin pp face on May 21, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
If this is the summer to make moves and to try to lock up DWill ASAP, then why not assume draft night will be used to get better sooner than later.
We’re hearing all the same names: Andrei Kirilenko of the Jazz, Jeff Green and Glen Davis of the Celtics, J.R. Smith of the Nuggets, etc. We’re also hearing Deron Williams talking about the need for veterans with winning experience. One other thing we’re hearing that is not so well-known: the Nets see this summer, not next, as the time to make the big moves, the time to be aggressive.
It won’t impress DWill to draft someone at #27. Definitely Proky will be approving of spending lots of cash.
Lift up the sofa cushions
Put together the money needed.
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by eLonepb on May 21, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yup.
3 million is pocket change for Proky.
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
Trade for Ramon Sessions!
im sure Proky has a budget that his people can spend
and obviously for big financial decisions…he wants to be involved… but im certain he fully trusts the people he hires…
by blazin pp face on May 21, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if BK has been having casual talks with Orlando
despite Otis Smith being persistent about how they are not interested in trading Dwight. Ric Bucher recently said how he is sure of it that Dwight is leaving.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
Bucher said in an ESPN podcast
That teams have already called Otis Smith and that Otis knows what he’ll have to do.
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If thats the case
Otis, you make me wanna shout.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Here
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/podcast/archive?id=3634017
The 5/2 edition. You’ll have to like the last 4/5th’s of the audio to get to the Dwight part.
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If the nets are serious about
making big moves this offseason, considering the talent pool in free agency one would have to assume that the nets will be dangling Brook Lopez this summer.
None of our 20PPG scorers will be getting dangled (Deron & Brook)
Unless it’s for Dwight of course.
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how else
would we make a major move without trading brook? We dont have tradeable assets that would bring in a major addition and there arent any players in FA (aside from Green possibly) who would classify as a huge move should we sign him?
They are not trading Brook for anyone but Dwight
Guaranteed. No way.
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the
nets would trade Brook Lopez for a lot of players. If they’re intent on making a big move this summer Lopez in all likelyhood would have to be part of a trade package that landed that big piece. It doenst have to be Dwight.
care to elaborate?
In terms of realistic trade possibilities there arent a lot of guys out there the nets would move lopez for but if this team is going tomake a big move this summer how do you expect them to make that move without moving brook?
There's nothing to elaborate
They have a 20PPG game scorer on his ROOKIE contract. He literally costs them HALF of Outlaw’s contract and his production is in the elite level.
They will not trade him for anyone but Dwight Howard. Period.
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off the top of my head
i cant think of anyone else who is known to be available at this time that they would move lopez for but there are plenty of players in the league they would trade lopez for.
So just because Howard is the only rumored star to be on the move doesnt mean that Lopez could be moved for a star who isnt neccesarily clamoring for a trade right now. Kind of like how we got Williams.
So saying they will not trade Lopez for anyone but Dwight Howard is foolish. There are a lot of players in the NBA they would move Lopez for.
What is foolish
Is thinking this team will trade a 7 foot 20 PPG scoring center on his rookie contract.
The same center they just paraded around Brooklyn and talk about as a cornerstone for the franchise.
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there is only 1 player Lopex can be traded for
Dwight Howard. There is only 1 center better than Brook and you don’t trade a center for a wing
by DJ HeavyDuty on May 21, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Elone
Brook Lopez and “elite” dont belong in the same sentence. Lopez is a current cornerstone player for the Nets but he has plenty of holes in his game and if n opportunity arose where the Nets could get a star player for him they would jump on it.
While Howard is the big fish out there right now who is actually rumored to be on the move there are a # of scenarios where Lopez could be moved. Players become available all the time. It just happened with Dwill. If another player on that level became available the Nets would move Lopez for him in a heartbeat.
I like when people prove themselves wrong in the same sentence
i cant think of anyone else who is known to be available at this time that they would move lopez for but there are plenty of players in the league they would trade lopez for.
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that's not proving myself wrong
Players unexpectedly become available all the time. See the acquisition of Vince Carter and D Will as examples. If and when another player besides Howard becomes available he nets would consider moving lopez for him.
Fine, name a player
Go ahead.
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eLone, I'm getting off.
Until then I doubt he’ll respond
:D
Petro + Williams = Blueprint for success
elone
I cant predict the future. I can’t predict what’s going to transpire in the NBA. All i’m saying is that Brook Lopez isnt untouchable. There are a lot of players in the NBA i would move lopez for IF they became available.
I’m saying, as always, a really god player (like Deron Williams did) will unexpectedly become available. If and when that time comes the Nets would have to look at using Lopez to get themselves a true second star.
SO NAME ONE!
I’m not asking you to predict the future, I’m asking you to think logically. You have a point to make, so make it.
Just saying “duHz LopeZz canz beez TradZe f0 duZ StuPerTsrATrz” isn’t actually saying anything at all.
I’m down to hear your point, but you haven’t made a good one.
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My point
is that if the Nets are intent on making a big move this summer Lopez would have to be the player they moved to acquire a second star. Do you agree?
If it’s not Dwight Howard, i’m saying that there are other players I would trade Lopez for. For example, if Lamarcus Aldridge became available this summer I’d trade Lopez for him.
Lopez is a dumb player who doesnt have the personality you’d expect for a star NBA player. He can score but he brings ZERO intangibles and shows little desire to win. Trading him for any legit NBA star would be a major win for the nets franchise.
That legit NBA star = Dwight Howard
You do NOT trade a 20 ppg scoring center.
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Way better
playes than Brook Lopez have been traded. Yeah, he scores 20 ppg but he displays a lot of the characteristics of a losing player.
He’s soft, cant defend, doesnt rebound, whine’s all the time, can’t pass and has a low bball IQ. If a legit star player becomes available you say goodbye to Brook Lopez.
I mean seriously the guy probably still plays with lego’s.
Are you serious?
He is the second best center in the East, maybe third. Do you know many teams would kill for a 7 footer than can give you 20 a game? That is worth a max contract, you dont trade that unless its for the one guy who is better than him at what he does. And that’s Dwight Howard.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Being the 2nd best
center in the eastern conference is certainly debatable (see Noah, Horford, Bogut) and doesnt make you untradeable.
Again, Lopez can score there’s no question about it but he has a losers mentality. Hes soft, backs down, can’t pass, plays with a low IQ and is a whiner.
much better
players than Lopez have been traded before. If a star players is available you trade Lopez for him becuase Lopez is not a star player.
Dude Horford and Noah
are not near Lopez in terms of value.
Lopez is 23 and has averaged close to 9rpg twice in his career already..he can and WILL get much better.
Horford
is a back to back all-star. The coaches in the NBA disagree with you.
Gee, that may be because Atlanta consistently reaches
the playoffs.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no such thing as a losers mentality.
You dont play a sport of you have a losing mentality.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i disagree
There’s no burning passion in Brook Lopez to win. He’s soft, he whine to the refs, the coaches, etc. Lopez is a good player but not the second best player on a team that is going to make a deep playoff run.
This whole conversation started with me assuming that if the Nets are going to make a big move this summer that Lopez would be the player they’d have to move to make a big splash(considering the lack of difference makers in FA). Lopez is underrated outsid of Nets fans but also overrated by Net fans.
A few things:
- There is no requirement for players to have a “burning passion.” It obviously helps, and even makes a player more likable. But its not a requirement. And then second part of that is that there absolutely no proof that Lopez in fact does not have a desire to win. You shouldnt be playing a sport at all, let alone a professional sport if you do not have the desire to win games.
- You can argue whether Lopez is soft. It turns out that his calcium deposit didnt help him out much. He needs to add muscle, get bulkier, but that doesnt mean he is necessarily soft.
- He whines to refs? Wow, Ive certainly never seen a player complain to the referees before.
- I dont think many people expect Lopez to be the second best player on a very good team. Thats why others and myself think Dwight Howard is the most logical step in becoming a powerhouse, because a duo of him and DWill should be able to guarantee you a spot in the ECF.
- The reason Lopez is underrated by others is because this team has not won in a few years. If you dont win, people will assume that all your players suck.Obviously not true. I really dont think he is overrated by us. We see him perform night in and night out. Hes a horse. The truth is that when he becomes a free agent (assuming he is still a Net) teams will be clamoring to get a 7 footer who gives 20 a night and the Nets will try to get him locked in right away. And look to see him get a deal very close to the max, if not the max.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree
with pretty much everthing you’re sayin. All of that being said about Brook Lopez, considering the landscape of free agency over the next two years the nets are likely going to have to trade for the second star to team up with Lopez. If thinks dont work out with Howard it doenst mean that the Nets wont stll try to move Lopez for a star.
Players unexpectedly become available every season in the nba for various reasons. The Next star that becomes available (Besides a PG) the Nets will build a package around Lopez for that star.
The only way they move him
is if they miss out on Dwight and find someone willing to give up a star player in return for Brook. I dont think there are many teams like that out there. And that would be a panic move by the Nets (worried that if they had missed out on Dwight, they need to do something to keep DWIll)
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
personally
i think the Nets should keep their eye on Kevin Love. He wont stay in Minnesota forever. I’d love to pair him and Williams up and build around those two.
ID love to find a way to get him
But I just dont see how Kahn could be that dumb. It just isnt humanly possible.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The only way trade him
Is if its for Dwight… Or LeBron.
or durant or wade.
None are going to be available.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Are you for reall
Peaple that watch ball games know who B LO is he will drop 20p on anybody most teams double him for a reason and of course they will sy his trash but let them know his comeing over to play they would be dum happy beside ORL
by Aidar Berlinbayev on May 22, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Tim Duncan has 4 rings
And he invented whining to the refs, I guess he has a losing mentality too?
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
sounds to he dislikes Lopez'z personality and lets that impact
How he rates him
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Would you trade Brook for
Hibbert and Grainger? We can throw in Outlol and Farmer to make the salaries match up.
i'm not sure
I’d have to think about that.
The Nets aren't trading Brook Lopez
for anyone but Dwight.
Yes, they would trade him for guys like LeBron, but the LeBron’s, Wade’s, etc. are not available.
i would never trade a big for a wing.
thats juss me…
by blazin pp face on May 21, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Well not true
We were tryi to trade Favors for Melo.
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And also, Melo is arguably the second best SF in basketball.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 22, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
No, he's not.
Unless by ‘arguably,’ you mean there’s absolutely no way he could be considered the second best small forward in basketball.
It ain't trickin' if 'you know.' Baby, I 'you know.' Mama, you are with the right man; Juno. Tell me what you wanna do; I will make it happen. I just wanna get you home and uh, uh, uh, uh, oh.
No, there are people out there (not even Knicks fans)
who think Melo is the second best SF in basketball.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 22, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol you can't even think of the players off the top of your head, yet you say theres plenty
2-5 isn’t plenty. Thats few
Petro + Williams = Blueprint for success
look below for my lopez comment
ppl jus dont appreciate bigs
by blazin pp face on May 21, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Love this gif
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It Must Be Slow Out There
I am a loyal reader of this site. I always look forward to the off-season reports. Today’s was really kind of boring. I hope the lockout is dealt with soon – this is lame!!!
Come on give NI some credit here.
It certainly helps pass the time before the draft.
Petro + Williams = Blueprint for success
Kris Hump
Kris Humphries is in the new GQ mag as a feature model. Mostly board shorts and polos. The Kardashian effect is strong.
Care to explain?
When the big fella was whistled for his fourth personal foul midway through the third quarter, Stan Van Gundy left Clark Kent alone. And in a phone booth measuring 94 feet across, Dwight Howard used that vote of confidence to transform into his alter ego. - Chris Sheridan
by thermodynamic on May 21, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he means that its all kim doing this for him
as we see we have two teammates who have pretty famous girlfriends.
one guy is fresh in his realtionship the other has been engaged for years
the new guy is all over the stuff because he actually plays good on the court now in addition to having a celeb girlfriend
the old guy sucks and no one cares about him just his girlfirend
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 21, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i think she has gotten the maximum value out of limited assets
is a great entrepreneur but I see little reason to be interested in her daily exploits…and I use that work advisedly.
she went from brandy's assistant to selling herself for money
for me reality tv is for when i want to escape reality
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 22, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The
nets top target should be jeff green. Still plenty of room for growth in his game, fills a position of need, can shoot, will improve the team defense and would truly benefit from playing with someone like Williams. It’s probably unlikely they can get him without massively overpaying but Gree is the best FA the nets could sign.
i saw that
how much doyou think it wouldtake to pry him from Boston?
he'll probably
get paid closer to 10 million.
Not with his underwhelming post-season performance
tops I see him getting $8 mil…but after the new CBA I doubt he even gets that.
anything more than 3 years
and its bordering around 5-7 mill a year. i cant even see a team wanting to pay him 7 mil a year on a long deal either
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 21, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Ainge was talking about giving him a bigger role
even mentioned the possibility of bringing Pierce off the bench… I doubt he lets Green go.
i'm not saying he leaving
i’m saying i cant see a gm out there willing to throw more than 7 mil a year for him
and he will have a bigger role. its been evident since 2007 when pierce had to guard joe johnson in the first round, he cant be an effective two-way player anymore in the playoffs.
he either locks his man down and gets no points(2010 nba finals) or he gets his and lets his man get his as well(2011 first round). lebron was the salt in the wound
also i can see them letting big baby walk and getting a “big” man that wont cost as much as perkins. they just need a healthy big body and another tony allen/james posey wing defender
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 21, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
If were thinking that Gree is only getting 7 Million than we don't have to worry about Hump
I’m not saying that I disagree. But we will not know until the new CBA is created. If there is a hard cap than teams will be a lot more cautious. The stupid teams will overpay this offseason, that’s why I like the idea of Howard. We would have two true superstars who would deserve their contracts – that’s easy to build around.
I am especially enamored with this trade scenario where we unload Outlaw, get Howard and drop Arenas’ contract with the amnesty clause.
come on, no need for personal attack , even if the pic is funny.
Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov admits clerical error, releases a guy's family from underground dungeon fortress that is shaped like a giant snake with an ox's head and perpetually burrows through the Earth's mantle so as to avoid prosecution from the world's governments and evade the single-celled, yet 4,000-foot-long Colossus worms that lie in wait until the day someone recites the Forgotten Verses, at which point they will devour us all.
http://www.sbnation.com/2011/3/29/2066542/the-animated-gifs-of-winter-numbers-15-through-11
Yea mb, but I wouldn't even want Green for $5mill
4 mill at most
Petro + Williams = Blueprint for success
i think you're
focusing too much on his lackluster play with Boston. He was a real nice player for OKC. Thad Young may be better but Green is a better player and better signing than AK at this pt.
Depends how much we pay Ak and for what length. Ak is by far the better defender and all around player.
AK 3 yrs 15 million is a great deal.
Green is a young
more able bodied player at this pt IMO. AK bst days are behind him. Green with Williams ould be a real good combo.
If you are going to use that argument then Young would be the target. Younger than Green and a better player.
Green stinks.
You could argue
Young is better than Green. But you can’t make an argument that Green stinks. That’s not true.
He was dreadful since he landed in Boston.
Terrible.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes you Could
He is below league average in many statistical categories.
http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/3/29/2078351/a-wake-up-call-jeff-green-is-a-below-average-nba-player
It would only take about .701% of the population of Brooklyn alone to fill the Barclays Center.
Welcome to the Giants, Prince, Marvin and Jerrel!
Neither Thaddeus Young or Jeff Green
Are the proven veterans that D-Will said he wants the Nets to get. Believe that Kirilenko will be a Net.
Growing up in the New York/New Jersey area, Faried made a very simple decision of making the Nets his team, rather than the New York Knicks.
“I root for the Nets and the Knicks, but I was closer to the Nets and I go to more of their games.”
Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=19864#ixzz1N213Q3Oz
Faried is 6'6" , 6'7" in shoes
i dont want another Swat. k-Marts the same size though, guess if he’s special…..
Leading rebounder in ncaa history.
thats special if he really is 6’7" or even less.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like a future Carl Landry...
nt
by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on May 21, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he meant paul millsap
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R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 21, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a great story.
He sounds like a real Nets fan. Imagine how hard he would play for his favorite team?
The problem everyone has with Lopez
is that he is too consistent…. he might not be the flashy superstar that you want him to be…. but he rarely gets injured (thank God, cross fingers) and gives you 20+ a night with a couple boards and blocked shots
everyone devalues how important a “great player” is because they are soo enamored by the glitz and posh of “superstars”…..
by blazin pp face on May 21, 2011 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
the problem with lopez
is that besides being a good scorer he pouts, doenst play defense, plays with a low IQ and cant pass to save his life. Him being consistent offensively and playing every night is the complete opposite of the problem with Brook.
there is without a doubt that his passing got better this season
granted.. it needs to be better…
granted.. it needs to be better…but you make his defense seem lackluster…. i agree he needs to focus on it…. but all the reasons you said…. is nothing that cant be fixed….
granted.. it needs to be better…but you make his defense seem lackluster…. i agree he needs to focus on it…. but all the reasons you said…. is nothing that cant be fixed….brook lopez came on a sucky team… without proper management and coaches.. and lost his attitude along the way……
granted.. it needs to be better…but you make his defense seem lackluster…. i agree he needs to focus on it…. but all the reasons you said…. is nothing that cant be fixed….brook lopez came on a sucky team… without proper management and coaches.. and lost his attitude along the way……with great players on the team (especially of derons’ value) they will demand a lot from Brook… and i believe he can produce…
by blazin pp face on May 21, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
AGREE!!!
other than score 20 everynight he’s offers little. I still want him
On the team but we can’t act like Lopez is an Elite player
LOL
other that the fact that he can score 20 points a night….
by Net Income on May 22, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If he scores 20 PPG
I don’t care if he takes a crap on the bench seats, I want him on my team
8 > 3
by NetsAreTheChamps on May 22, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Wellllllll
if you read my post. I said plain as day “I want him on my team”. I am arguing that he is NOT Elite
My point is I don't care if he can't do anything else
As long as he scores 20 PPG
8 > 3
by NetsAreTheChamps on May 22, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
well i do
i want him to be an all-around beast on both ends
i want him to drop buckets, draw fouls, set up teammates, block shots, alter shots, rebound, etc
brook should be on the all-nba teams within two years. dwight and bogut are the only guys that should be able to outperform him night in and night out. he has to catch and eclispe bynum and horford
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 22, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov admits clerical error, releases a guy's family from underground dungeon fortress that is shaped like a giant snake with an ox's head and perpetually burrows through the Earth's mantle so as to avoid prosecution from the world's governments and evade the single-celled, yet 4,000-foot-long Colossus worms that lie in wait until the day someone recites the Forgotten Verses, at which point they will devour us all.
http://www.sbnation.com/2011/3/29/2066542/the-animated-gifs-of-winter-numbers-15-through-11
man pls
all caoches that Nets had in past 3 years were talking about that he is project of big success i wouldn’t hump on him like that simple fact that he still will drop 20+on a team and will damand to double him i can tell you only 5 teams that played him one on one:ORL,MIL,MEM,LAL,DAL rest of the teams send double team at some point first game past season in BOS KG sceaming for help and untill last 5 min Nets were up etc So PLS his IQ for game is good enough to make all star game’s on regular
by Aidar Berlinbayev on May 22, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Just for comparisons sakes
people who say things like this about their respective franchise players get flamed through the roof on other SBN blogs.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 22, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Seems like you just personally dislike Brook.
You should be excited that the Nets have a player of his caliber on the team. Every player has holes in their game but he does score better than the starting centers on 27 other teams, he’s 23 years old, he’s never missed a game before and he seems like a good guy who doesn’t cause any trouble. Deron Williams is a fan of his and wants to make him a “dominant center every night”. I just don’t get the bashing of this guy who played hard and scored more than all but two players at his position coming off of a summer with mono, only to be followed up by a season with a calcium deposit in his arm. He’ll work on his game just be patient with the young man and enjoy what he is good at for now.
its all pretty irrelevant now
is brook untouchable for Dwight….heck no…
depending on the player of course… but some ppl on here wana trade brook for pieces of biscuits and crumbs
by blazin pp face on May 21, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not saying his untouchable
Listen i’m like anybody else here if D 12 will say i would play for Nets I give them anybody but D WILL just so he would resign and i belive D WILL and D12 already talking about it it’s just D 12 dont want to leave like LeBron of cousre i will do the deal in a heart beat my point was that B LO is still more skilled scoring big boy that need to get mental toughness and he would be in all star game’s on regular c’mon AL Horford playing C enter B LO drops 30 on ATL
by Aidar Berlinbayev on May 22, 2011 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I would package brook for a top 12 sf + serviceable role if could lock nene. Everything hinges on Dwight. Which will hold us back from making any moves. We are in limbo as we were with melo. K
Orlando will hold back to trade deadline which will make king play it conservatively. Risky proposition with dwill hanging in the balance.
i wouldnt mind if we used our picks on malcolm lee and jeremy tyler.
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
no one is highlighting
The fact that NI menioned the Nets are interested in J.R. Smith
by JerseysFinest. on May 21, 2011 8:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Oh blank. I didn't even catch that. Well...

by Dopeness on May 21, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i hate that pic so much
Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov admits clerical error, releases a guy's family from underground dungeon fortress that is shaped like a giant snake with an ox's head and perpetually burrows through the Earth's mantle so as to avoid prosecution from the world's governments and evade the single-celled, yet 4,000-foot-long Colossus worms that lie in wait until the day someone recites the Forgotten Verses, at which point they will devour us all.
http://www.sbnation.com/2011/3/29/2066542/the-animated-gifs-of-winter-numbers-15-through-11
ya same here
Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov admits clerical error, releases a guy's family from underground dungeon fortress that is shaped like a giant snake with an ox's head and perpetually burrows through the Earth's mantle so as to avoid prosecution from the world's governments and evade the single-celled, yet 4,000-foot-long Colossus worms that lie in wait until the day someone recites the Forgotten Verses, at which point they will devour us all.
http://www.sbnation.com/2011/3/29/2066542/the-animated-gifs-of-winter-numbers-15-through-11
I think the pic is weird
but the guy in it I am fine with
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
No
MBDTF was awesome.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah hes one of the best producers out there
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on guys
He’s honoring Kool Mo D. You know he’s dope ; )
by Zartan on May 22, 2011 4:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Please no
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
by Andy. on May 21, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Meh
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He also mentions Green, whom Iannazzone says the Nets are not interested in. No beat reporter has mentioned JR.
there seems to be a general consensus
that T.Will was a JR-lite, and the Nets were more than ready to part ways with t.will. unless their reputations are completely exaggerated, why would the Nets want to bring in a more expensive T.will?
Honestly
The Nets brass has been reminding people how important “changing the culture” was for the team this year, and they are gonna sign JR? Um, yeah, right.
JR Smith is not a headcase… he is the headcase.
yeah, it just doesn't add up.
the paradigm shift for the franchise probably doesn’t involve doing exactly what you did last year.
I also don't get
how players like Smith, Green or Davis fit into the description of the players Deron said we need to go after this offseason (proven veterans). I have to admit Davis (whom I really dislike) looks like an Avery type of guy tho.
we have our go-to guys on offense already....
but the team is going to struggle on defense and with the lack of depth almost across the board.
defensive specialists, athletic wings who can finish at the rim, and high energy rebounders… thats what i would hope Deron is looking for…
I think Deron
would be excited about playing with Jeff Green. As a second and third year player he had averages of 16 nd 15 pts per game with 6 rebounds. Before being traded to Boston he was averaging 15 pts and 5.5 boards. After the trade he clearly had a tough time fitting in but Green woul be a great addition in many ways.
On the court he’d bring slashing ability at the 3, defense and a guy who would be able to run with Deron. Playing with Deron I could see Green flourising here.
Also, in a hypothetical situation where the Nets were working out a deal with Orlando having a player like Green is another attractive piece to a trade proposal.
I think Green should be the Nets #1 target after Hump.
i don't mind Green's game...
but he can’t become just another three point chucking SF/PF hybrid.
i think he had a rough go of it in Boston because he was the assumed target of all the players’ anger towards the front office. he personified that trade every time he walked into the locker room.
fair point
I think with the Nets they be using him in a slasher role. He could be Deron’s Rj.
i think green
is a more skilled player than TYoung
Only problem is how much money do you spend on that position?
If we already have Outlaw at $7 million per year, and he is clearly not the guy that should be starting. We have Damion James who looks to be a part of the Nets future. Can you afford to sign Jeff Green at the same position who is a borderline starter? I think if the Nets can unload Outlaws contract it’s a whole new ball game, but until that happens they have to be very careful with who they sign a SF which has been a huge weakness since RJ left.
Jeff Green isn't leaving Beantown tho
If the Nets had the opportunity to get him, maybe if he was unrestricted, I’m sure they’d make a play for him.
But sitting down for awhile, thinking about the Nets in general, I realized it isn’t necessarily bad for them to get him. Deron and the team know he has talent. They know what he can do. If they can control him, you might have something special. I really don’t see the harm in going after him, there really isn’t anyone else.
Cue the he’s an obsessive chucker and a gang member comebacks….now
by JerseysFinest. on May 21, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
wrong on Green, if Al indeed said that
and just because a beat writer didnt mention someone doesnt mean the Nets are interested or not.
He did
He was asked on twitter about the Nets possibly being “hot” for Green and Young, and that if Deron shared that sentiment, and Al replied:
http://twitter.com/#!/Al_Iannazzone/status/58604213638397952
I have heard just the opposite. But you never know.
Boom.
Williams/Gaines
Smith/Morrow
Kirilenko/James
Nene/Humphries
Lopez/pick
Nope. Watch this:
Amnesty clause on Outlaw. Boom. Trade Farmar for a 2012 second-rounder. Done. Package this year’s first-round pick with Johan Petro for a 2012 second-rounder. See ya.
Cap-space: Approximately $31 million.
Resign Kris Humphries to $7 million, annually. Sign J.R. Smith to $5.5 million annually (with incentives). Sign Kirilenko to $5, annually. Sign Nene to a four-year, $50 million contract.

Nah.
Some people don’t like me because they claim I don’t take things seriously. And I quote (another ex): “why do you have to act so cool about everything?”
I’m not even sure what that means. I didn’t know how to respond. So because I’m a certain type of hole, guess what I did?
What would that be?
Lol Its funny you say that tho. I’m the same way. When I totaled my car I called my mom up and she didn’t believe me because I wasn’t “nervous enough”
When my car was stolen at GArden state mall I called up my pops and he didn’t call me back cause he thought I was joking.
Stared her straight the face and said:
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but I’m a pretty cool guy.
(Obviously, I was joking.)
i have the same problem
except i laugh at everything. i have laughing gas in my blood or something
its not a raucous laugh. just a wide snark smirk and some chuckles that make my chest and head jump
i get yelled at - i laugh…. i watch horror movies -- i laugh……i have “serious” talks -— i laugh…………the only thing i dont laugh at is when i lose in xbox
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 21, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That make you potential serial killers
You lack emotion. If you guys are very smart, hate ppl and being touched, you may have a slight form of autism( *Asburger or something).
by Zartan on May 22, 2011 4:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Huh.
If you guys are very smart…
Well, that means NW doesn’t qualify.
I wouldn't mind that
idk of we can get NENE. I would hope they are all on favorable contracts that can be moved
If there is an amnesty clause that lineup is very possible
I wonder though, what if Orlando says, “We want Nene AND Lopez.” I admit, I’d be a little hesitant on that one.
D-Will > Carmela
As long as we had Hump
Id say okay
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Rebounding means winning
That would mean winning and winning and winning and winning…
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd say
okay you keep hedo
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 21, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds like Davis Bertans could be a real good player in the nba.
Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov admits clerical error, releases a guy's family from underground dungeon fortress that is shaped like a giant snake with an ox's head and perpetually burrows through the Earth's mantle so as to avoid prosecution from the world's governments and evade the single-celled, yet 4,000-foot-long Colossus worms that lie in wait until the day someone recites the Forgotten Verses, at which point they will devour us all.
http://www.sbnation.com/2011/3/29/2066542/the-animated-gifs-of-winter-numbers-15-through-11
After a couple years of development.
(He definitely needs to add 10+ lbs of muscle)
Petro + Williams = Blueprint for success
This isnt live, but it says powered by earthcam. I probably forgot about this, but I dont remember this being there.
http://www.barclayscenter.com/about/construction_update.shtml
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
Oh wow
that gives me a much better idea of where it’d be, that is awesome. I think the Pru Center has something similar right now, its a practice hockey rink with a big window anyone can look into.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 22, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
i hate that atlanta team
Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov admits clerical error, releases a guy's family from underground dungeon fortress that is shaped like a giant snake with an ox's head and perpetually burrows through the Earth's mantle so as to avoid prosecution from the world's governments and evade the single-celled, yet 4,000-foot-long Colossus worms that lie in wait until the day someone recites the Forgotten Verses, at which point they will devour us all.
http://www.sbnation.com/2011/3/29/2066542/the-animated-gifs-of-winter-numbers-15-through-11
Petro is out of France’s NT pre-selection for the European tournament. It’s a 24 player list and Petro didn’t make it. Yeah, he is not very good.
wow france has almost no big men
noah, turiaf, sene, geleable, petro………..i dont understand why they shelled out 3 million for him. this dude would have signed for a box of white castle and taco bell
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 21, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
how is this not a form of tampering?
"He’s definitely filling like a big brother role in my life, just giving me advice," Irving said. "When I was going through the three-month stretch when I was hurt he was talking to me every single week telling me to keep the faith. That was really special to me to have someone in the NBA already giving me advice—what things to do and what not to do."
Kyrie Irving on Lebron James
Man I hate this so much
LeBron is going to give that kid the wrong ideas, LeBum is just flat out Dumb.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
The hate for LeBron is so comical and unwarranted.
The lack of maturity in this country (in terms of sports fans and republicans) is baffling.
Have you heard the guy talk before
he thinks that everyone thinks like him.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
LeLiar acts like he is a Basketball God.......
He still hasn’t proved anything…..He is also helping in giving the NBA a bad name with his antics and by running his mouth all the time….He is a self centered ,egotistical jerk off and he deserves to be hated……He is not nor will ever be Michael Jordan so he needs to stop acting like he is…..That’s how I feel…….
Signing Perkins to that contract doesn't look as brilliant anymore
For the Thunder.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
That contract is quite atrocious
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 21, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Perkins is playing like Jason Collins did with the Nets
Would never have gotten that contract, that knee injury took a lot more mobility and athleticism from him that he didn’t have in the first place.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
and he's never had an offensive game to begin with...
another guy who miraculously out-performed peoples’ expectations, except for the fact that he played with 3 HoFers… a defensive player of the year and MVP, and one of the best pure PGs in the league
Looks like McHale is the frontrunner for the Rockets HC job
I was rooting for Frank to get the job. Not that I’m a fan of his, but I wish him well. He also interviewed with GS.
Whatever gets TWill playing-time.
Lawrence played Terrence more than expected in the first eighteen games. McHale recognizes talent, so there won’t be a problem there.
Meanwhile ESPN reports the Lakers are interested in Mike Brown.
Fire Johnson and hire Brown - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking somethin' when he let Brown slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on May 22, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Its also been reported that Brown is the front runner for the Warriors.
Fire Johnson and hire Brown - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking somethin' when he let Brown slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on May 22, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Wayyyy to much for him
Might as well throw Pacers a second rounder and get Dahntay Jones.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
the thing about this free agent class is that all the players worth the money are restricted
i say the best way to assemble this team
Draft: trade up for faried, thompson, or singleton or hope harper and brooks fall to 27 and in second round hope kieth benson, jajuan johnson, or david lighty still available
Our free agents: Re-sign hump to something between wes matthews and amir johnson around 5-6 mil a year. everyone else walks. if possible trade petro to clear cap space
free agents i like that should come relatively cheap except the first guy:
marcus thornton: they dont call him “buckets” for nothing. definitely solves a lot offensive deficencies in our backcourt for when d-will and lopez need help. problem is there are at least 25 other teams with a guy not named kobe or wade or monta that will help drive his price up. big men are easier to find in the draft. proven nba scorers are not. if needed must break some bank to get him
tayshaun prince: detroit is a mess, he has team usa pedigree and an nba title, i give him benefit of the doubt of not giving his all in detroit since they traded chauncey. he is that vet that can come in and start and tutor james and with revitalization can be another leader in the locker room
luc richard mabh a moute: no one knows him in the casual world cause milwaukee and scott skiles are boring to watch. but how willing is milwaukee to keep him? it may not take a lot to get him as milwaukee could let him go for less than market value if they dont want to financially commit to him. offensive game is still raw but is lengthy and quick enough to guard the 3 and 4 and is pretty good at it.
joel przybilla: at this point we have to treat brook like a star. and you want your stars on the court as much as possible but you dont want a completely useless backup who plays out of his role in limited minutes and contribute next-to-nothing most nights. pryzbilla is a vet but for our frontcourt could be that glue guy who holds it together with his defense and shot-blocking and court awareness. he had i believe knee surgery this year so teams wont be lining up to overpay him but we arent asking him to be a 6th man. asking him to be a know-your-role vet in limited minutes to give brook a breather and preserve the lead with solid defense
no big names but this defintely gives the team a solid all around foundation assuming everyone but thornton doesnt get overpaid for. add depth and still keep flexibilty for future trades and free agency.
you get three 20 ppg scorers. three-to-five solid defenders. lights out 3-point shooter. and on top of having depth you have a nice mix of vets and young guys
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 21, 2011 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
I think we wait on small forwards.
There are a lot of them on the free agent market, especially if there is a amnesty clause. We pick up the one at the best deal. I have been thinking that that may end up as Kirilenko or Prince. Even
Marshon brooks my friends
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on May 22, 2011 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Malcolm Lee!
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
Brooks!
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on May 22, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
The best pur European shooter in this year's draft is Nikola Mirotic, from Real Madrid!
DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...
I really want the Nets to draft a foreign player this year.
There is some talent there and it would add some value as a long term asset.
agree, the recent past years have been very productive in good internationals pick ups at late in 1st round and beginng of 2nd round, that's where we have our picks, Bertans or Mirotic are a must get with one of the those picks, the other pick is a 4-year
DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...
Mirotic just signed a new contract with Real Madrid…he isn’t coming to NBA until 2016 and I’m sure teams will pass on him afraid of a new Fran Vasquez situation
yeah I know, if he develops properly, he will want to come early to NBA.
DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...
To answer who would be the few players that i would take for Brook besides DH are James Harden and Ibaka. I think Harden is a star in the making, he just needs more playing time and with DWill, he would get even better. I think that Westbrook (with blinkers on) hinders Hardens game. Ibaka is a defensive specialist that we havent had since KMart and after that we just need to find a decent Center.
Then we can go hard on Nene.
You can all forget JR Smith as well.
by iJoon on May 22, 2011 2:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Love Harden.
They wouldn’t give us Ibaka as well though.
Not doing it unless Dwight is out of the picture or definitely coming here via FA though, but I’ve been touting Brook for Harden trades for awhile and I’m not the one that wants to trade Brook just for the sake of it.
I think Harden is on his way to Ginobili reincarnated.
by vincecarter4pres on May 22, 2011 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions
So...look what Rafer is doing...
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
why isnt deron williams on the 2k11 roster
For ps3
Tell it how it is ! or just shut the hell up !
by Mike28Live on May 22, 2011 11:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Because playstation sucks?
But no, I have no clue. Sorry.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 22, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
cuz
he was injured to close the season. i got upset about this last night
by corky_romano4life on May 22, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
its like that on xbox as well
players who had serious injuries or surgeries that carry well into the playoffs/offseason remain inactive while other players with minor injuries like monta ellis suffering a concussion in the 81st game got placed back in the lineup when their injury time finished up
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on May 22, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I asked Bucher what he thinks about Dwight being a Net
(meaning is it realistic or not), and he said this in a direct message:
RicBucher
nets believe they have a shot + they are on DH’s list. not at top, but…most important element: if deron says, “I’m staying. come join me.”
nothing really significant i guess
by JerseysFinest. on May 22, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions
nothing really significant
besides him saying what a lot of people here have been saying that if Deron shows commitment, a lot of other free agents and players around the league would feel a lot more comfortable about joining the Nets
by JerseysFinest. on May 22, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
If Deron is not already talking to Dwight about this
there is a severe problem.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 22, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i wonder who could be at the top of his list?
the geriatric lakers? the heat? the nix? OKC?
i don’t think dwight will ever be a net to be honest. but if he wants to go to the lakers he really must wake up every morning and wish his name was shaquille oneal. he wants to host SNL and be in movies like shaq, took his nickname, is about to bolt orlando like him, thinks hes funnier than he is like shaq, etc. it’s kind of weird.
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on May 22, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
dwight howard is gonna get dealt by
The trade deadline. Isn’t that what always happens with these superstars anyway.
by netsfanallday on May 22, 2011 4:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I just want to say to all people who are hating on Brook
What people are not understanding is that in the NBA it is desired that a team wants there starting bigs to be one good defender, tough rebounder and shot blocker and the other big guy to be a scorer with post moves capable of defending but more reliant on his offensive game. Conventionally the defender/rebounder is the Center and the scorer is the PF. With the Nets its flipped, Brook is the post scorer and Hump is the defender/rebounder. Just because we look at Dwight in orlando and see a guy who is a terrific rebounder and scorer, doesnt mean we need to criticize Brook of not rebounding or defending. Humphries makes up for it. An example of the desired big men was Boston with Perkins and Garnett, Perkins defending and Garnet scoring (and defending). So just because our Center is doing the job of a conventional PF, doesnt mean we need to criticize it.
Also everybody who is so worried about Outlaw’s 7 million a year eating up so much cap space, you are silly. Sure it looked like a terrible contract, but to make it seem like the end of the world is ridiculous for this reason: with Prokhorov as the owner, the Nets can now pay the luxury tax, which means for every dollar they go over the owner must pay the same amount. This is nothing for Prokhorov and we shouldnt worry about a bad contract as Prokhorov can just eat it and pay the luxury tax. For a man who has invested over half a billion into this team, I dont think that and extra 50 million will hurt.
by The Big Russian on May 22, 2011 5:27 PM EDT reply actions
As for Lopez
He was only the 2nd 7 footer in NBA history to average 6 or less rpg while playing 35+ minutes a night (Bargnani is the other). That is not acceptable and I think it’s fair that people criticize him for that.
totaly agree
past season was about see who’s going to stay and go Brook is a good center however Outlows contract is a killer because if after CBA there would be a hard cap those big buks wont do anything.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on May 22, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
in an interview today (i think)...
David Stern basically settled the issue for New Jersey basketball fans. He claimed that the NYC metropolitan area already has so many sports franchises, he does not expect the NBA to add a third team to the mix…
Hey Net_Income....
based on the previously mentioned interview i heard today, it sounds like we’re looking at a completely missed season, rather than simply a truncated season (50 games….)
will you be provided Off Season reports for the next 15 months if that is the case?
Is there any link to this?
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 22, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
give a link if you are going to spew things like this
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on May 22, 2011 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
give a link if you are going to spew things like this
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on May 22, 2011 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah im pretty sure someone was banned for posting content form stories and never providing a link.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 22, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Jaydee was
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
i say
Call Thorn.
Tell him we are gonna push the price on Young and frony load the deal to get him.
If you want to keep Young trade us Iggy for a 2nd round pick
by DJ HeavyDuty on May 22, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
dreaming are we?
Young trade us Iggy for a 2nd round pick
Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov admits clerical error, releases a guy's family from underground dungeon fortress that is shaped like a giant snake with an ox's head and perpetually burrows through the Earth's mantle so as to avoid prosecution from the world's governments and evade the single-celled, yet 4,000-foot-long Colossus worms that lie in wait until the day someone recites the Forgotten Verses, at which point they will devour us all.
http://www.sbnation.com/2011/3/29/2066542/the-animated-gifs-of-winter-numbers-15-through-11
He took the quote out of context.
Fire Johnson and hire Brown - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking somethin' when he let Brown slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on May 22, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
lol D-wade getting the ball blocked by the rim
While Rose is speeding down the court, this is why I say Rose has surpassed Wade, D-rose has youth on his side.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

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