Nets D-League Ambitions Start May 1
So much of what the Nets have done to improve the team's pedigree has been out of the public spotlight. Adding to and improving the basketball operations staff; sending the team on a round-the-world tour in preseason; upgrading the accommodations on road trips; making plans for a world-class locker room and practice facility in Brooklyn...even little things like adding a team chef.
The next step in that will be the integration of the Springfield Armor into the team's basketball operations. Starting May 1, the Nets will have a true minor league club, one that Bobby Marks, the Nets' assistant general manager, hopes will cure a major deficiency for the Nets: player development.
It's not going to get the headlines a free agent signing or a trade will bring...but the Nets hope it will lay the groundwork for a better roster that will attract those free agents and make those players traded to the Nets happy to arrive.
On April 5, as they do every year, the Nets' top executives will fly to Portsmouth, VA, for the local invitational tournament. There, college seniors, mostly borderline NBA players, try to impress scouts from all 30 teams. But this year, for the Nets, things will be different.
"It's where you find D-League candidates, seniors who are not first round picks. That will be the start of the operation," says Bobby Marks, the Nets assistant GM, of the team's takeover of the Springfield Armor.
Then, some time after the season ends on April 13, Marks, Billy King and Avery Johnson will talk with Dee Brown, coach of the Armor, and his assistant, Kevin Whitted--both former NBA players, about their philosophy of coaching, and, more importantly, player development.
"We will meet with Dee, sit down with him to get a feel for what his philosophies are as we look to hire a coach," says Marks, the driving force in the Nets' D-League strategy. "He had pretty good success for Terrence (Williams) and Ben (Uzoh) so there already is a little bit of a comfort level there. We want to see what he sees going forward."
May 1 Is Start Date
On May 1, the Nets will officially add the Armor to their basketball operations portfolio, just about a year after Marks and his assistant, John Zisa, first drove to Springfield with the idea of making the Armor the Nets' own minor league team. It's a three-year deal with an option to extend it another three years in 2014.
In the past, the Nets had an affiliate relationship with a D-League team, like most NBA clubs but barely took advantage of it. In this new, so-called "hybrid" configuration, the Nets will control basketball operations. Ownership will remain in the hands of others. It's an arrangement only the Rockets and Rio Grande Vipers share although both the Spurs and Thunder own their affiliates outright. Along with preparing for the NBA Draft and free agency (and worrying about the lockout) integrating this latest acquisition into the Nets' plans will be a big part of the front office's summer.
"Our big goal is to see players develop," says Marks. "If you can do it, it's a no-brainer; no risk is involved. We're moving toward the baseball model of minor league teams for every NBA team." And the Nets are also happy about being seen as forward-looking. It's all part of improving the organization's reputation, showing potential free agents and others that they're willing to spend the owner's money.
It's not that there wasn't a need. The Nets may spend more money scouting the NBA draft and preparing for free agency, but the $250,000 in coaching and trainers' salaries and expenses they'll be paying out could be a wise investment. It could help fill them a need that's long been unmet and underappreciated: player development. It's not as sexy as the draft or free agency, but it's critically important.
Bench Never Improved
"We never improved our bench with our young players," Marks freely admitted. "They never got better. They flatlined. The Jason's and Vince's and Richard's got older and we never had those kinds of guys. A prime example would have been Marcus (Williams), Even Zoran (Planinic). The late twenties pick. They fall out of the rotation, get bad habits, never develop. if you had that D-League team, maybe it could have been avoided. They could have played!" Even this year, he thinks it might have been better if Ben Uzoh and Brian Zoubek, both undrafted but both given five figure guarantees, had spent time in western Massachusetts with a Nets-oriented operation.
Marks says he'd been making that argument for several years but before Mikhail Prokhorov and his people came along, there was hesitancy to make the investment. There wasn't much support from the Nets basketball operations people then either. Former Nets GM Ed Stefanski showed his feelings about the D-League last year. When asked about his Sixers buying a D-League team, he replied, "I don't see that making much sense".
"They (the Russians) loved it," said Marks. "They thought it was another resource to help develop young players. It was a no brainer if it could improve the on-court product." The team's top officials were on-board as well. King had looked into a hybrid relationship for the 76ers and the ever-impatient Johnson "wanted to do it last July," Marks joked.
The Nets plans for integrating the Armor and the Nets basketball operations are indeed ambitious...and it starts with the three key basketball operations hires: the coach, assistant coach and trainer.
Brown One of Several Candidates
Brown, the former Celtic, will be one of the first candidates to be interviewed for the first--and most important--hiring. He won't be the only candidate. The Nets have some others they intend to talk with before announcing who the new head coach will be sometime in mid-June. "We've started formulating a list of potential candidates but we didn't want to come in and just tell Dee he was out. We want to give him a chance."
And whoever gets picked, "they will be here for summer league, for training camp," Marks added, referring to the Nets' practice facility in East Rutherford. "The same message has to be preached in Springfield as well as New Jersey... They will be on the floor here. Whatever staff we put together on Summer League, they will be part of that staff. They will familar with younger players...who we draft, who we sign."
Those three will be Nets employees, paid by Prokhorov; not Armor employees. Whoever is hired will be asked for their opinions just as the Nets' six current assistants are. "They will be an extension of our staff. We have had (D-League) coaches come down to training camp before but now instead of watching, they will be on the court, doing dtrills. They will be our seventh and eigth assistants".
Of equal importance, they will be working from the Nets playbook, using Avery Johnson's training methods. There will be no need for an Armor player to cram on the plane after being called up, no need for a Nets player to put aside what he learned in Nets camp on arrival in Springfield. It should afford a seamless transition.
Marks, Lee Could Be "GM"
As for administration, Marks, director of basketball operations Milton Lee or a Nets scout will be the defacto general manager, making trades, signing and waiving players, occasionally traveling back and forth to Springfield during the season. Jordan Cohn, already the Nets' D-League scouting guru, will add the D-League Draft in early November to his duties. That's the way the Rockets have worked it with their "hybrid" club, the Rio Grande Vipers. Gersson Rosas, Houston's vice president for player personnel, is also GM of the Vipers.
"We talked with Houston at great length," said Marks. "Big thing I got out of that: If you have the right mix of people, it can work."
And that "mix of people" will extend to the trainer's job at Springfield, the third person whose salary will be paid by the Nets. "The same goes for Timmy Walsh, our trainer. He has to feel comfortable with the Armor trainer because they will be working with him on our training and rehab methods." It might even include some cross-pollination between the Armor management and the Nets' business side. "They can lean on Brett and his people, with ticketing, marketing."
It's not perfect, Under the current CBA, only first and second year players can be sent down to the D-League. And unless a player is under contract with (or his draft rights are held by) the parent club, he can be called up by any one of the 30 clubs at any time. And because their salaries, paid by the NBA not the Nets, top out at $25,000, players have been abandoning the D-League for overseas jigs. Orien Greene, who had a 10-day tryout with the Nets this winter, recently left for the Beijing Ducks, where the pay is multiple times better. There are also "roster fees" to be paid per transaction and there's no opportunity for a profit. It's purely an investment. (The Nets hope a new CBA might permit injury rehabs down on the farm, like baseball.)
Nets Have "Comfort Level" with Armor
Why the Armor, which has only been the Nets' affiliate for two years and is an expansion club who won a D-League worst seven games last season and only 13 so far this season? "Again, we had a good comfort level. We were comfortable with the owner who's a baseball guy with minor league clubs, Michael Savit. We're comfortable with practice site, the arena. It's a good area. If we put a enough product there, they will draw. and you can keep an eye on things. That's more appealing than some place in Midwest or West, where you're not within arms reach."
The Armor and their fans will get something out of it as well, starting with winning, says Marks He notes the Rockets' Rio Grande Vipers won the D-League championship last year. "Our goal is to help develop players, and you want to win up there as well. We owe that." There will be other things. The Armor will be able to get help from the Nets business side on marketing and ticketing promotions and "the goal is to eventually have a pre-season game in Springfield."
Marks was at the NCAA Regionals Friday night at the Prudential Center, scouting a wide range of players. Harrison Barnes and John Henson of North Carolina seem to be outside their realm of possibilities, even if they could parlay the #28 and #36 picks with another one purchased on Draft Night into a higher pick. But there were others who might fall into their hands: Brandon Knight of Kentucky late in the first; David Lighty and William Buford of Ohio State in the second; DeAndre Liggins and Josh Harrellson of Kentucky undrafted pickups.
He liked what he saw and adds having the relationship with Springfield will help the Nets front office on Draft Night, yet another advantage.
"Knowing that there is an affiliation, you are already ahead of the game," he said. "It's an advantage you know that you have Springfield for second round picks, even a later first round pick, not a lottery pick. When we make the decision that night, we know they are automatically going to Springfield, where they can develop."
That, says Marks, is a good thing.
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Yeah, I'll read this one in the morning.
:)
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
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This may not be as sexy as a blockbuster trade...
but I guarantee you that potential free agents are paying attention to this and all of the other efforts the Nets are making to upgrade the organization and its operations. How much time will the Nets save simply by making sure every player in the organization is reading the same playbook? This is so incredibly astute. Can you imagine how much more smoothly players can be integrated coming up from the D-League with just that one change? Familiarity may breed contempt, but it definitely breeds comfort and saves time when a player goes from the minors to the majors. Why are the Yankees so incredibly consistent these last couple of decades? Yes, the money is probably the biggest reason – something Prokhorov emulates very nicely – but the complement to that is they have created a whole way of being, the Yankee way. The Nets are building the foundation for a successful organization, not simply a winning team on the court. I like it alot.
wow ... this'll turn NBA on its head
reading the same playbook? This is so incredibly astute.
is this Spurs’ secret formula? Bringing in D-League talent?
the fact that any NBA team needs to rely on bringing in their D-Leaguers is a HUGE warning sign it’s roster is fundamentally flawed.
"Why has Avery Johnson pushed out every valuable player that we have ... rather than try to work with them as a coach to improve their value?" - imdkidd
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
They aren’t relying on D-League talent, they bring in talent that they aren’t comfortable bringing to their team to the Armor, and develop them until they’re ready to play in the pros. I agree that it is incredibly astute; for instance, say an injury happens like this one to Deron. Nets lucked out that Sundiata seamlessly blended into the team, but the Nets can call someone up from the Armor because they use the same playbooks. Or say there is someone who goes undrafted or the Nets get a player they believe has potential but is not ready yet. They can send him to Springfield to play a few games to improve, familiarize himself with the game, build confidence, etc., and then call him up. Very, very good move by the Nets.
by JerseysFinest. on Mar 27, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
So does this mean that the Springfield Armor are affiliates of only the Nets? And not the Knicks and 76ers? If they are, I wonder what Philly and NYK do
by JerseysFinest. on Mar 27, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
how limited
there are three teams in the NBA with either D-League teams owned outright or throught a hybrid arrangements: The Spurs, Thunder and Rockets. One other team owned a D-League club but has put it on hiatus: the Lakers.
As you can see, all these teams are among the worst managed in the NBA….all run by fools.
by Net Income on Mar 27, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
LMAO
rec’d….
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 28, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
of course the roster is flawed
but this is about developing talent, not scrounging the d-league for scrubs.
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 28, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
it would be like our minor league team for king to place all his undrafted players in
as long as its your first two years in the league. he can sign people to ten days and send them down and decide to keep them down there after the 10 days expire and develop them if he sees something in them
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 28, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
David Lighty please
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
is that the same dee brown from illinois? aka deron's former 34-1 teammate?
also watching just wright. lmao because the nets are actually good, izod center is full. elite teams like the magic, lakers, celtics, etc suck. against the nets
“the cookout” “Just Wright”. i hope queen makes another comedy movie with the nets. i’ll make sure i wont miss the casting for extras this time
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 27, 2011 12:14 AM EDT reply actions
Colin Powell says: Looks informative but I have my doubts...
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universal says:No way I’m reading all of that!
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Which team is more likely to win the AFC east the Patriots or Jets?
The Bills? It's gonna be the JETS homes.-Trevor Price
Forget May 1, we need to tap into D-League immediately now that there is no point to keep Ross.
Colin replied to me earlier regarding Ross:
Yes, his Nets career is over. And you’re right – they can waive him and sign someone, which they may do.
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Where are all the D-League experts. Surely there are some SF’s that were on Billy King’s short list. No one in the Nets organization could deny that the SF situation is the worst in NBA right now, with DJames likely better off to rest the remainder of seaon.
So far only the name mentioned is Joe Alexander. As a former NBA player, he wouldn’t take a lot of time to get up to speed. Even if Alexander is better suited to be a PF, its not like the Nets can be picky. By having Proky spend around $50,000, he can give the Nets fans and players a little hope. That would be a cheap investment.
The rest of the season is devoted to setting things up for next season including convincing DWill that we really aren't that bad, especially if he was playing.
Deron will be playing against the Knicks, so apparently he disagrees with you.
And in the latest story by Fred Kerber, apparently Brook has been playing hurt:
Later, it was revealed Lopez has played with a right arm calcium deposit that’s painful when hit.
And at the same time as we can hope to finish the season on a positive note...
It is also important to see the Knicks fail, by finishing 7th and losing in not more than 5 games, to either Celtics or Bulls.
Proky knows that we have to convert some of the soft Knicks fans to follow the Nets too.
Knicks are now 2 1/2 games behind the Sixers, who they play 1 more time.
it doesn't really matter
we just want to get through the rest of this season with no one else getting hurt.
We have to look ahead
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 27, 2011 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions
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Baron
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by jasperjarrod on Mar 27, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I had also suggested Barons...
in another post. Here are a couple more that offer some ties to the old baseball Negro Leagues and one, in particular, to Newark.
A Negro Leagues team called the Brooklyn Royal Giants played from 1923 – 1927 in the Eastern Colored League. Brooklyn Royals plays into the whole Kings County word play and is reminiscent of the Kansas City Royals. Of course, the Kansas City Monarchs completes this circle of thought, as they were also a member of the Negro Leagues.
What I like even better, though, is the associations created from this next team, the Newark Eagles. Brooklyn Eagles sounds good to me. The Newark Eagles played from 1936 – 1948 and were born of a merger between the Brooklyn Eagles and Newark Dodgers. It gets better. Larry Doby – the first black man to play in the American League – and Don Newcombe – Brooklyn Dodgers rookie of the year, MVP and Cy Young winner – were both members of the Newark Eagles. Further, the Newark Eagles were the first professional sports franchise to be owned by a woman, one Effa Manley, another groundbreaking owner to arrogate to the history of the Nets.
The naming is rife with possibilities of association and marketing. Think about a tribute to women’s rights during Women’s History Month (March), educating people about the first woman to run a professional sports franchise. How many people would be surprised to learn about Effa Manley? Think about the tribute to be made to Black History Month, educating people about the difficulties faced, and successes achieved, by the owners/coaches/players/family and friends of the Negro Leagues. This is an area that is ripe for exploration and exhibition. Imagine throwback jerseys based on those of the Newark Dodgers, Brooklyn Eagles and Newark Eagles. In one fell swoop, the team would open up a door to the past, align itself with images of a noble enterprise and continue to burnish its credentials as a progressive and in-tune organization.
If anyone has Brett Yormark’s e-mail address and/or attention, I think he needs to see this.
One more thing.
Associating the team with the old Negro Leagues would be in keeping with the YES Network agreement that will likely be continued by the Nets and Yankees. I can see the possibilities of cross-pollination between the teams. Derek Jeter and Deron Williams could narrate a documentary on the Negro Leagues. I smell another emmy for the YES Network.
depends on which baron?
contract year baron in new orleans and golden state(03 and 07) yes
headcase baron in new orleans and golden state——maybe as long he plays like contract year baron and not………………
overweight, injured, lazy baron in new orleans, golden state, los angeles, and cleveland….bad knees, bad back, fat, bad threes, no defense, no explosivenss
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 28, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Great bedtime read.
Good work as always, NI.
I really hope the new CBA supports the Nets ultimate goals with this investment.
http://otrbasketball.com/forums
Yankees-Nets-Broncos
by OTRWaldo on Mar 27, 2011 1:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
double d's
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 27, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
You gotta stop with David West. He tore his ACL. He's done. It took Kristic alost 2 yrs. to recover from that, and he was in his eary 20's. West is 30.
by the Hunk on Mar 27, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
word I feel real bad for West
hard working guy, and one of Chris Paul’s only competent teammates.
by sheepareevil on Mar 27, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Forget West
If it’s 3D you want, it would be Deron, Danny, Dwight.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
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by NetsMets4Life on Mar 27, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
omg
elite PG, perimeter scorer, best big man in the game
we’d win.
I dunno how we could feasibly do it
hopefully, the new CBA places things in our favor.
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 27, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
If you think about it...
it was a lost two years in terms of basketball. Glad to see he’s landed on his feet, though. He looks good.
DWILL
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6262731
imagine something extremely witty here
In eight games with the Nets, Williams is averaging 14.8 points and 13.1 assists
This is with a messed up shooting wrist.
Anything and everything will be done to provide this guy with a team that can win games. I have no doubts in my mind.
Men in suits will be sent to the doors of veteran players if need be.
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 27, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
More Dwill news
The Nets are talking as if this is a foregone conclusion and they are marketing him as such. But Williams isn’t ready to commit to anything or to entertain a deal until he has a better feel for his new home. “How can you commit to something you just got into? I just got here,” says Williams, who has missed the last five games with his wrist injury. “I haven’t even been here a month. How can I just say I’m going to stay here? That’ll be great because that’s what people want to hear, but I can’t say that.” New York Daily News
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But he's right
I like the fact that he’s at least honest.
The Nets will have to back up their talk. That’s all there is to it. I believe that they will, and then some.
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 27, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed on both points
it’s on the nets to back up the talk, and i think they’ll get it done also
imagine something extremely witty here
this is one thing I like about Williams
he’s not a clown like the other guys. He speaks his mind, and does not play games. He’s openly trashed Ric Bucher.
This is the type of no nonsense personality that you need to get somewhere. Not an buffoon that enjoys playing to the media and having his name tweeted every 30 seconds because he took a dump in some city that he might be playing in next year.
King and Prokhorov will get it done.
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 27, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
ugh
sorry about the typos
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 27, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
"Hamburger?"
told he is loosening up around beat writers, feeling more comfortable and getting used to being in a major media market unlike Utah, where there are two papers and a tv station that cover games.
wait was it berger or bucher
or both? i thought he took a dump on bucher
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 27, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Berger was the one at the press conference.
Ric Bucher has been saying that the Nets got the better deal, by getting DWill, and that Knicks were worse than before the Melo deal (Bucher said that at the time of the trade and is looking brilliant right now.)
Deron expects to play before season is over
Deron Williams told reporters on Saturday he expects to play again before the Nets’ season is over, and the point guard pointed to Wednesday’s game against the Knicks at Madison Square Garden as a likely target for his return.
"Yeah, I’m going to give it one more try," Williams said. "Maybe I’ll eye that New York game," he said. "It’s a big game."
The Nets play Houston on Tuesday followed by the nationally televised Knicks game on Wednesday.
"I think it would probably be better to play the second (game) of a back-to-back, instead of the first," said Williams.
Avery Johnson had said Williams will be re-evaluated at Monday’s practice.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/212578/Deron_Expects_To_Play_Before_The_Season_Is_Over
I KNEW
he was coming back for that Knicks game.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
It would make more sense to play some during the Houston game, but not too many minutes.
However, there would be a chance to get re-injured and miss the Knicks game altogether. Also the media would probably analyze his stats closely if he only had say 7 assists in 20 minutes and the Nets lost.
DWill can still provide a spark for the Nets, if he can play most of the remaining games.
I was only hoping that we could be a 500 team since he arrived. In that can, he could justify that we would be a 500+ team next season, which could alone be enough to get him to re-sign.
Unfortunately with Gaines/DJames injured and Lopez battling a calcium deposit all season (why didn’t we know about this before?), we instead look like one of the worst teams in the league.
Thought he should play in the Houston game too
then realized that it’s DWill .. he don’t need a warm up
he's coming back
because he wants to play for the Knicks for the vet’s minimum in 2012
by sheepareevil on Mar 27, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
ur funny not! dwill is foeva net
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Mar 27, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like he’s going to stay with the team. Reading the Bondy article, I like how the Nets are giving him so much attention, as in introducing him to each member of ownership (Razumov), accomodating his family, tailoring the offense to his style, marketing him to levels previously unavailable in Utah, etc. He seems very excited about whats to come, and repeatedly mentions his confidence in how bright the future is as King and Prokhorov have laid out.
It reminds me of that story NI was talking about with Kidd going to the SI Photoshoot, and when he was asked by Suss if he ever got this type of attention, he said never.
by JerseysFinest. on Mar 27, 2011 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
Very important would be to consult DWill before King makes any basketball moves.
I bet DWill was never given that opportunity before.
THE RAT
Ratner never did anything smart like this deal with THE ARMOR. Another case of Proky’s money going to good use. I would like to have seen a kid like Zoubeck play under our supervision in Springfield this year. But there is no substitute for NBA experience. This is why I want Avery to give Wright some meaningful minutes before the end of the season.
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
It is dead on NetsDaily today, but the Kim/Kris news seems to be heating up.
ZZone has a story about Kris having no competition for the Nets any longer (no West or Z-Bo likely). Nothing new.
Our best hope on getting a discount on Hump may revolve around Kim Kardashian, who continues to tease us about engagement/marriage. I doubt she would like to move to Sacramento.
From:
Kim Kardashian
by NYDNInterNets
I am so happy my future husband just surprised me!
9 hours ago via ÜberSocial
Anyone know what the surprise was?
And why would she write “future husband” if she was just teasing?
This all is related to re-signing Hump. I hope she has enough $, that Kris doesn’t care so much about his new contract.
Give Kris 4 years with a player option for the 5th year, but keep the amount low.
i'd prefer no news...
to this kind of stuff. no offense, but i couldn’t care less about this
I miss the days when America was only morally bankrupt...
she said hump stole her phone and wrote that
by JerseysFinest. on Mar 27, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Girls say "future husband" a lot
Both about guys they’re seriously dating and celebrities they think are hot…
by Anthony Perez on Mar 27, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
no
We should hope that Hump takes less now, and more later during the length of the deal so we can have more flexibility
Hump deserves to be paid. We should accommodate him as best as we feasibly can
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 28, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
ohhh my Marcus Thorton is a beast watching Kings-Sixers
Just hit a cold blooded three to tie the game has 29 so far. We definitely should check up on him this offseason.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Agreed. The Nets need a scorer at either the 2 or 3.
Thornton at the 2 and either Chandler or Thad Young at the 3 would just be sublime.
Too bad there’s a salary cap. Lol.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
Yeah Thornton is really good. Probably easier than getting Wil. I wish Nets could try and trade for Granger also.
by JerseysFinest. on Mar 27, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
why no to the grange? Very talented perimeter scorer, MIGHT be available this offseason if Indy wants to move forward with Paul George at the 3. Just tossin around ideas.
by JerseysFinest. on Mar 27, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably a decent amount. At least 7 million I would guess.
The dude has just been lighting up the league since the trade like he did last year.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
Kings will have to match
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 28, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
he is staying with the Kings
after this run he has made, no doubt.
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Mar 27, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems to me
that the NBA needs to adjust the roles for the Nets to really get maximum benefit from this arrangement. It is not like the Nets can get extra 2nd round picks and send them to the Armour. They are still limited to 15 contracts. Plus the rules cause the level of competition to be too low. Everyone the Nets send down get a triple double. Maybe teams could expand rosters to 17 as long as a minimum of 2 are assigned to the D league.
by ispartan on Mar 27, 2011 2:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Plan 4 success 2.0
Resign Hump
Draft Faried
Sign Thornton
Trade Brook for Dwight
Pass the bong, man
In the middle we stay calm, We just drop bombs
Yeah. I would add Trade Petro & Farmar for Cap Space to your plan. Then they could sign a SF.
Williams/Gaines
Thornton/Morrow
Chandler/Outlaw
Hump/Faried
Dwight
Nasty.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
But like Bucher said, Nets could probably S&T Humphries with Lopez and James and probably Morrow for Mr. Howard, so subsitute Hump with Big Baby maybe? And Farmar’s a keeper
by JerseysFinest. on Mar 27, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
if we had both hump/faried and dwight on the glass wed
outrebound everyone in the league
In the middle we stay calm, We just drop bombs
give me the lottery ticket numbers for tomorow night?
In the middle we stay calm, We just drop bombs
So if he says "Im leaving", they're just gonna let him walk?
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Mar 27, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He said he was happy right now.
Its a long way to Summer 2012 from now.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Mar 27, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Or we could take a chance on Josh Howard fow two years, with the second being a team option.
If he recovers, that could be good for us. He’s played well under Avery before. Shouldn’t cost us much at all. Starters for next season could look like this ( assuming there is no trade for Dwight )
D-Will
Thornton
J. Howard
Hump
Lopez
Not too shabby!
I would too, but I think he'll cost more because he was producing better right up to his injury
and I think Dallas may bring him back. Howard’s numbers were down and he’s coming off injury. May see playing for Avery to get back to doing well, plus playing with D-Will.
I would not even think about either of them
If I had to go that route I would take Reggie Williams.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Gaines-Uzoh-Farmar-Morrow-James-Outlaw-Wright-Petro
and we pick up a couple of bigs- one for defense and one for offense.
At what point does Orlando make Howard an offer?
I believe it would have to be after the new season starts with a new CBA. Assuming they are playing by the next trading deadline, Orlando would be in the same position as Denver was this year and would entertain trade offers if they feel he is going to leave.
Life as a Net fan
Can it get any worse? There's always tomorrow.
He's not going to sign tho
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
AHHHHHHHHH
screw buying a car this process is so damn annoying. Im buying a bicycle.
In the middle we stay calm, We just drop bombs
VCU won again...
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
put down the 2k11 controller
In the middle we stay calm, We just drop bombs
by 2dopeboyz on Mar 27, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Harrison from Kentucky has a live body lets grab him up
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
He's crazy to just wanted to punch Harrsion Barnes in the face, thinking he intentionally tripped him.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Marcus Thorton we must get him!
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Mar 27, 2011 6:50 PM EDT reply actions
np
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Mar 27, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He would be great with this team.
Thorton and AK as free agents.
Re-sign Hump
Trade Farmar, Petro, and a pick or two to a team with cap space.
Williams/ Gaines
Thorton/ Morrow
AK/ James/ Outlaw
Hump/ Outlaw/ AK
Lopez
by Clayton Balch on Mar 27, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
i wouldn’t mind having him as a backup i guess but “must get him”? slow down.
I wonder if Zeller is coming out
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
probably not
it’s not like his stock is super high or anything. another year can’t do anything but help.
you no,, the knicks are ny’s team.. do you guys think we can ever achieve the status like the mets-yankees relationship?? do u think the nets will be talked about on the radio and will have callers call up just like the knicks??
I think Knicks/Nets will eventually feel more similar to Cubs/White Sox. IMO, the Knicks draw more parallels with the Cubs than the Yankees. Both historically favored teams, playing in antiquated yet revered venues, that never win.
by shane gayle on Mar 27, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
forget the NY media the Nets will be talked about around the world

If you won’t be my knight you will be my pawn
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Which team is more likely to win the AFC east the Patriots or Jets?
The Bills? It's gonna be the JETS homes.-Trevor Price
Do we know how long the team is committed to Springfield?
I wonder if the Nets would consider moving the team closer. It’d be more convenient to get quicker call-ups, and it could be a way for them to expand their visibility in the area (or keep a presence in New Jersey post-move).
OMMMGGG I just met the Machine like an hour ago at Newport Center Mall in Jersey City!
-Was at the Armani Exchange there, and I saw some guy inn the back looking at some shirts, and it was him! I was like whats up Sasha and he’s like hey, I didn’t even know he has some type of accent. I was like how is it playing here, and he said he loves it here, and he said he wants to come back after this season. He said he lives in Hoboken, and he said he’s having a lot of fun. I asked if he thinks the Nets will keep him, and he’s like I’m pretty sure and he started laughing. I asked then if he thinks D-Will is going to stay, and he’s like I think so, he seems a lot happier and he said he’s very excited. I told him we need some wings and a few bigs in order to win more games next year, and he laughed and agreed. Then I was like hope you guys beat the Knicks on Wednesday and good luck, and he said we’ve been looking forward to it and peace. Very cool dude to say the least. Stylish also lol
He'll need to take a major pay cut if he wants to stay, but he seems like a cool dude.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
He is a chill guy, if hes available for cheap, we should keep him.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Mar 27, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
"I Didnt know he has some type of accent"
Yeah I guess living in slovenia for about 20 years and then coming to america can do that to your voice
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 28, 2011 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm Sorry...But I can't wait until May 1st......
Send Lopez to the Springfield Armor….Immediately…..
Here's a hypothetical for all of you.
Would you trade Brook for a high lottery pick this year to draft someone like Harrison Barnes?
Then the Nets could sign a 5 like Chandler and have a starting lineup next year of…
Williams
Morrow
Barnes
Hump
Chandler
Would any of you do it?
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
nope
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Mar 27, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Would any of you care to elaborate?
I am kind of torn, but I feel like a 3/5 combo of Barnes/T.Chandler could much better than W.Chandler/Lopez.
Barnes has legitimate superstar potential and T.Chandler can anchor an entire defense by himself.
Front court Defense and perimeter scoring, two weaknesses of the Nets, would improve with such a trade + signing.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
I don't think I would
that is too little for Brook, and without knowing who is staying in school or not it would be risky.
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Mar 27, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
without a nets jersey on hump
does not look like a big beefy brawny man
pause
In the middle we stay calm, We just drop bombs
I'm sorry
i didn’t even notice Hump in that picture
I have that sweater
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 28, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
i didnt realize hundreds of people
shop at the Laperia outlet at once like that. must have some quality merchandise/retail that everyone loves
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 28, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Bargnani will be available...
I like him he’s becoming like Nowitski and will explode playing the PF, but like Lopez is a poor rebounder.
DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...
Link?
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
site hoopshype, according to the New York Daily News
DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...
I had a feeling the Nets will look at getting him. International player helps Nets in their mission in becoming global, has drawn comparisons to Avery’s former player Dirk, and would definitely stretch the floor. Problem is, he and Lopez would be probably the softest 4-5 in the entire league
by JerseysFinest. on Mar 27, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He would fit well next to Howard. ;)
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
yeah, but Bargnani numbers can inflate playing the 4, he's used to fight for the rebound against Centers.
…And he can play the PF and C, perfectly well so that would make a good combo along Hump and Lopez.
Bargnani is a real offensive threat, alongside Lopez I can’t imagine how damage we could do.
But I don’t know how we can get him, Toronto is after good picks and we already gived up the 2 better we had.
DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...
there is no way this team is taking on bargs and his outrageous contract
without getting howard. cannot start a frontcourt that combines for an average 11 rebounds per game in one year
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R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 28, 2011 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions

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